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Speaker 2: you guys coming from alabam honestly? And how about you

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Speaker 2: In your experience, how commonplace is it to have fourteen

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Speaker 2: For you men your second year doing it.

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Speaker 1: The future of the organization?

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Speaker 2: Now, this is the highest you guys will draft since

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Speaker 3: How much do you weigh expiring contracts different guys coming up?

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Speaker 5: They should get into these early picks, and you have

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Speaker 1: Sure be pretty shortsighted if you didn't know what the

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: When you look at a lot of the top seams

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Speaker 1: As the beat. Yeah, We're gonna keep you know, pushing

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Speaker 1: From Yeah, I mean that's also a function of what

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Speaker 1: You know, certainly no team is complete right now. Uh,

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Speaker 5: Very interesting picks last year, both with the cool, strange

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Speaker 3: This is a fair sake? What would random this year?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if it was just necessary necessarily

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Speaker 4: Matt from the from the outside looking in, what you

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Speaker 3: Give us, can you give us? Slowly decided, I'm sorry,

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