1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Own this thing. It's ours. Come on, let's go Walt 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: County and Nino four. Let's own this stadium. Make it ours. 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Urban Meyer Shower Show. Former Jaguar Jeff 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Loghman and J. P. Shadrick discussed the latest Jaguars news 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: with the head coach. The Urban Meyers Show starts right now. 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: Welcome in to the Urban Meyers Show. The Jaguars and 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: the l A Rams coming up in week thirteen. Will 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: recap Week twelve coming up as well. JP Shadrick, Jeff 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: Laghman and Jaguars head coach Urban Meyer. Well coach, first off, 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: Good afternoon too. You will get to last week's game 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: coming up of course, the Rams next week. Let's start though, 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: with all the big news around college football, and the 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: head coaching carousel is spinning faster really than ever right now, 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: some high profile schools have changed coaches in the last 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: forty eight hours and the Urban Meyer name pop up 16 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: right or wrong, And in these times it feels like 17 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: is that flattering? Is it annoying? Is it distracting? What 18 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: are your reactions when you see your name on these lists? 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: I spent so long in college football that, um, you're 20 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: talking about some great places. So when I start getting 21 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: text messages or phone calls, you know, of course it's flattering, 22 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: you know the respect I have for um that profession. 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: But I have no interest. I I have a great 24 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: relationship with the owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars. I love 25 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: the nine oh four area and feel committed to these players. 26 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: And I mean this is this Losing stuff will kill you. 27 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: I mean it will kill you. But uh, we're all 28 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: committed here to turn this thing. And I speak on 29 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: behalf of our players are coaching staff, and we are 30 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: going to grind and work and work. And you know 31 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: the vision of a full bank t I a bank 32 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: stadium and you know, a high flying offense and all 33 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: that we have the quarterback. We have to just keep 34 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: building and getting better. There's still confidence you can turn 35 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: it this season with six team to go. What are 36 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: we talking about, man, I mean you see it all 37 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: the time, and you know, I know I see Jeff 38 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: right there not as head. Of course we can we 39 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: all beat the Buffalo Bills and play great defense. You know, 40 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: we we've had some awful injuries at the fast you know, 41 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: our speed at receiver, we and then now our fast 42 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: tight ends out. Yeah, but it's don't don't tell us 43 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: how deep the ocean is. Just figure out how to 44 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: get across it. So we're a My attitude is great, 45 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, I just I feel I feel for our fans, 46 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: I feel for our former players, I feel most importantly 47 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: fire players. Let's go win. Let's go in and keep 48 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: fighting and fighting and fighting, and uh, well that's what 49 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna gets a fight and urban the game in 50 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: the NFL as you are learning and see and it's 51 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: it's it's so tight, and any kind of mistake that 52 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: you make or things that you might miss certainly can 53 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,119 Speaker 1: cost a football team in a big way. This past game, 54 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: you had some mental areas that cost your football team, 55 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: and when you clean them up obviously will help in 56 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: a big fashion. How do you go about making sure 57 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: that you can clean them up to where you can 58 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: give yourself to the best chance to win every week? 59 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: That's the million dollar question. That's the question that uh, 60 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: you know, for all of us that's been in this 61 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: game forever. Uh you try to figure out if it 62 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: was wearing a lucky T shirt or screaming at someone 63 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: or pulling them out of the game, you do it. 64 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: But when you think about. First of all, I I 65 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: say this weekly, and I'd be transparent with you if 66 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: I felt like our locker room wasn't wasn't all about 67 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: the right stuff they are. When I see a mistake, 68 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: it makes you very angry, but it also breaks your 69 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: heart because you know, my gosh, you're just going as 70 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: hard as you can. You look up and I remember 71 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: looking to say, what you're kidding me? You know, our 72 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: defense is off the field twice within a five minute window, 73 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: and you see two two penalties, you know, and uh 74 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: or a ron route or a drop pass or something 75 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: and and uh. But you know there's one answer, Jeff, 76 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: you know what as well as anyone, and it's you know, elbow, 77 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: grease and go to work. And one of the great 78 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: things I think about you talk about a great locker 79 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: room is you get really accept in the locker rooms 80 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: when you get to the point where the locker room 81 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: starts demanding of each other that those corrections are made 82 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: and those mistakes are not made. Are you starting to 83 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: see signs of that, because obviously this is a locker 84 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: room that takes time to build. Not yet, you know, 85 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: I see bits and pieces of it, because we have 86 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: some really good leaders. You know. It was great to 87 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: have Lender back, uh, but not not to the degree 88 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: or like you said. You know, that's when I studied 89 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: the Patriots for a so long and I even brought 90 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,679 Speaker 1: William Ginniston here to talk to our team. I remember 91 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 1: sitting up Mike, Mike, raybol Bruski and um Uh Rodney 92 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: Harrison back into the day and I and I even 93 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 1: asked Coach Belichick about how do you handle this situation? 94 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: Looks at me because I don't have that situation. It 95 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 1: never gets to me, you know. I was like, what 96 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: are you talking about? And then I watched practice and 97 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: I saw after practice who random meetings, the way it 98 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: was done, and and that's where the culture we're trying 99 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: to build here and go German Meyer with US Jaguar's 100 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: offense last week, there were some positive years later in 101 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: the game trying to climb back in the thing and 102 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: just fell a little bit short in that one. There 103 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: was all that talk last week about creativity and there 104 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: was some run pass option things that came back in 105 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: the game last week. The question for me here is 106 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: what is your ideal offense urban and and how do 107 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: you build that well? As I told my entire career 108 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: has been what's your offense? Tell me who my quarterback is? 109 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: You know, what about your defense? Will tell me who 110 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: our defensive ends are. You know, I was enamored with 111 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: the three four defense, but we were very fortunately kept 112 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: recruiting these five star athletes that are four three defensive events. 113 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: So guess what defense we've played for three? You know, 114 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: when Dwayne Haskins was a quarterback, we dropped back fifty 115 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: times a game and he threw fifty touchdowns in the 116 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: very few interceptions. When you know J T. Barrett or 117 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: Tebow was your quarterback, You're not gonna do that. You're 118 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: gonna run spread option football. So with Trevor Lawrence, you'd 119 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: like to see a combination of what a little bit 120 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: of what you said. I thought our offense at times 121 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: looked unstoppable, you know, if you let him play his 122 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: game and the gun. But you also and once again, 123 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: James Robinson is not himself yet, you know, and I 124 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: love him, we all love him. He goes so he's 125 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: such a tough guy, but you can see just doesn't 126 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: have that second gear, you know, the first gear that 127 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: that he needs. But that to answer your question, A 128 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: combination of both. And I see teams across the NFL 129 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: do it. I know we can do it, and um, 130 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: we just have to keep building and and part of 131 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: that is not easy to kind of come to the 132 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: conclusion on as far as okay, we want to be 133 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: this for Trevor because you've got a young quarterback. I 134 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: think probably you've got a vision for him that you 135 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: eventually he wants to be this. But it takes time, 136 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: doesn't it for a young quarterback to develop. And part 137 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: of that development is aided by a great running game. 138 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: How do you make that running game even better than 139 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: it is now with James Robinson not at quite a 140 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: hundred percent. I think the number one thing is keep 141 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: the game close, you know, the games that are really close. 142 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: We were able to do that, and we ran the 143 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: ball very effectively. Uh Sunday Uh combination of Trevor pulling 144 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: something that the other good thing to Trevor in the 145 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: run game, you know, I needed to see it. He 146 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: doesn't put himself in harm's way. You know, he does 147 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: a good job at getting down. But that that's a 148 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: part of this offense. It's a part of the Buffalo 149 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: Bill's offense. It's part of other you know, a lot 150 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: of teams offenses. Uh, to have that guy that's a 151 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: threat and he's actually good at it. You know, very 152 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: few drop back quarterbacks in the NFL. I shouldn't say that, 153 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: very few good drop back quarterbacks in the NFL because 154 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: it's it's I don't want to say it's impossible, but 155 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: you know we're facing uh, you know von Miller. Now 156 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: the other defensive ends great, aren't Donald is Uh? Arnold, 157 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, is the probably the best in the NFL 158 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: in his position of three techniques. So standing back in 159 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: the pocket, it's not the healthiest thing to do. So 160 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: it's Trevor is really good on the move. Well, Trevor 161 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: certainly has great mobility in the way that he plays 162 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: the game. And the thing that has impressed me the 163 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: most is how mature he seems to be handling all 164 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: of this. Orman. I mean, this is obviously not what 165 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: he's used to. He was a tremendous success some high 166 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: school in college and so this is new territory. But 167 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: I think the way that he's handled himself through all 168 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: of this has been exceptional. A plus, um, you know, 169 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: I just can't get enough of Trevor. I can't. You know, 170 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: you feel empty when you don't see him, you know, 171 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: And that sounds kind of awkward, but it is. You know. 172 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: I just love seeing that guy walk into building. He's 173 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: always positive, he's his players got incredible respect for him, 174 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: and he has a great vision as I do for 175 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: this organization. And uh, we all wish it would have 176 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: happened faster, but we still have six games left. Some 177 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: great things gonna happen this year. Gets some momentum and 178 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: keep building, and there's time and there's time for him 179 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: to get better and time for this offense to get better. 180 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,599 Speaker 1: How do you go about trying to build that confidencing 181 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: or gain if he doesn't have it, how do you 182 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: get that confidence going so that he and the offense 183 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: can have a little rhythm to finish this thing upright? Yeah? 184 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: They I kind of felt we had some of the 185 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: second half. We couldn't get the wait to get the 186 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: ball back and and I think we had two fourteen 187 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: play drives, a nice combination to run it pass and 188 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: uh and then the touchdown pass. I mean that was 189 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: as good have passed the tavon Austin as as you 190 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: could have hit them. The two point conversion had some 191 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: energy going, had the ball with the chance to win 192 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: at the end that we didn't execute. Uh So, how 193 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: do you do it? Hard work? I hate to be redundant, 194 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: and I hate to sound like old coach giving you 195 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: the same answer, but I think we all know the answer. 196 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: You just go work your you know what off. Plenty 197 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: more ahead with head coach Urban Meyer, will flip it 198 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: around to the Jaguars defensive performance last week against the 199 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons when we return. This is the Urban Meyers 200 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: Show on the Jaguars Radio Network. Welcome back The Urban 201 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: Meyer Show continues along the Jaguars Radio Network Jaguars Game 202 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: Day Broadcaster presented by Vice Star Credit Union and welcome 203 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: back to the Urban Meyers Show. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lagaman, 204 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: head Coach Urban Meyer recapping a week twelve lost to 205 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons twenty one fourteen. And let's flip it 206 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: around to the Jaguars defense against this Falcons team that 207 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: ran the ball effectively called Darrel Patterson was lined up 208 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: in the backfield, a good bit went over a hundred 209 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: yards rushing. Why were they so effective in the run game, Well, 210 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: they one of the first times they knocked us around. 211 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: You know, they got displaced at the line of scrimmage. 212 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: He's a very talented hybrid player running back in particular 213 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: in that game, and big, fast, strong guy, and we 214 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: had trouble with him. We held him to two points 215 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: six yards, but carrying the second half stiffened up and 216 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: put us in position to go winning a game. So yeah, 217 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: early on the game, he just we got knocked out. 218 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: And it's one of the first times up front and 219 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: I have been watching Devon Hambleton's He's a guy that 220 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: coming out of the preseason, I thought that he would 221 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: look exceptional. H this past game, I don't think it 222 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: was best his best game. How do you get that 223 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: a little bit stouter in the middle, because that seemed 224 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: to be part of the problem against the Falcons. Well, 225 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: we got a little bit depth there, you know. Godsus 226 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: came in and made a play for us and and 227 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: uh uh you've got Malcolm uh Hamilton's and David Bryant, 228 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: so we got a little bit of you know, some 229 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: big guys in there, and Roy Roberts as well. So 230 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: the best way is get you four or five good 231 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: plays and then rotate guys in, you know, because at 232 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: that position, that's a that's a know, a thankless position. 233 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: At times you're you're sitting there taking on six fifty 234 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: pounds of people men driving you back, and you gotta 235 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: stay fresh. You gotta have some mop back. The other 236 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: thing we did is we lost the edge a couple 237 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: of times. We've been really good about that so far 238 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: this year. Is you know, you'll hold the edge and 239 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: you force it back to where all your content, all 240 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: your supportive is on the team. And we lost the 241 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: edge a couple of times. Yeah, Josh actually even struggle 242 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: with that, as good as he's been playing, but hey, 243 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: sometimes that happens. That you didn't have Shaq Griffin in 244 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: that ball game, and Tyson Campbell turned in what I 245 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: thought was his best performance. He had the interception there 246 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: and a cover two defense where a lot of teams 247 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: tacked attacked the soft spot, and that's perfectly the way 248 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: that they had drawn it up, and Tyson played it perfectly. 249 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: He had numerous other players, a couple of past defense 250 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: to be able to give your team an opportunity there 251 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: at the end of the ball game, big tackle on 252 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: the third down by far his best game. Yeah, he 253 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: was just think about how far he's come and uh, 254 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: you know, he's a guy that we drafted with you know, 255 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: high high pick. He's a god known since his freshman 256 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: year in high school. It was great to see his 257 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: family after the game. But he is uh, you know, 258 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: he fought that the probably the best thing, Jeff, as 259 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: he fought through an injury. He had an a c 260 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: that you know, some guys wouldn't go. He went and 261 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: you know, uh when he came up and hit that 262 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: cat on the third down, you know that that just 263 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: showed me a lot about Tyson Campbell. Sure, he made 264 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: an interception against cover two bait at the quarterback and 265 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: made a play. He almost stepped in front of a 266 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: pick six too, So there's there's a lot of positives 267 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: right now with Tyson. Yeah, early in the season, the 268 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 1: coach there was all that talk about him not being 269 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: able to find the ball, and you know there were 270 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: a couple of plays where things got behind him. What 271 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: did he do to work on that? Well, he works, 272 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: you know. And and Tim Walton. I really liked Tim Walton, 273 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: you know. I you know, one of the things my 274 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: job is to challenge people. Are we do one enough drills? 275 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: I call him snapshots and we put these positions and 276 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: these players in position to what actually happens in the game. 277 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: But tired of you know, nothing of the old drills. 278 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: I I can't stand that sometimes. But are we Let's 279 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: break down a drill create a new one where he 280 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: has to go make a play on the ball and 281 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, leading the receiver out of bounds and all 282 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: the things the great corners you see doing. So I 283 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: really appreciate what they've done. I think one of the 284 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: things that I've noticed in you and correct me if 285 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, But before Tyson would try to turn and 286 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: look back at the ball once the receiver gave him 287 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: an indication that the ball is coming, whereas now his 288 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: attention stays on the wide receiver, in the hands of 289 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: the wide receiver and tries to battle. And at that 290 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: point and I am I wrong, Oh, you're right. Uh. 291 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: You know obviously you're talking about man coverage here. Man coverage. 292 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: You you can't lose sight of the white out and 293 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: the great ones because you have to all you know, 294 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: it's almost talking out at both sides of your mouth 295 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: and keep you know, go intercept the ball, but don't 296 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: take your eyes off the white out, the great ones. 297 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: Having a six cents where that receiver is at. So 298 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: he's watching them, but when the eyes go back, he knows, 299 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: he feels or that it out is and he leans 300 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: into it makes a play. That's where you see so 301 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: much improvement from Tyson shaqu Griffin did not play this 302 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: past week in the concussion protocol. What's the status of 303 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: him for this week? Anything new to report there? We'll 304 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: know more, uh, you know as a as a week progresses. 305 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: Head coach Urban Meyer with us you touched on this 306 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: earlier Urban. You know, there was some yards given up 307 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: early in the game. It was twenty one points, you know, 308 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: after the first drive of the second half. But then 309 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: the Jags defense got off the field each time, even 310 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: though there was some early adversity again and that tells 311 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: you a lot about this battling group on the defensive 312 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: side of the football. Yeah, we got a battling coordinator. 313 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: You know, we got a tough guy coordinator, and the 314 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: standard is very high, and we didn't play up to 315 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: our standard. Uh, very tough meeting we had yesterday. But 316 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna go out and practice and you know, we're 317 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: gonna play great defense here. We're gonna keep building our 318 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: defense with personnel and we're gonna I'm committed to this scheme. 319 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: I believe it's the right scheme and uh, I simply 320 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: like the way our defense has be a coach right now, 321 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: Urban will come back in just a moment and we'll 322 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: look ahead to the Los Angeles Rams and Week thirteen, 323 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: it's the Urban Meyers Show on Jaguars Radio. Wow, welcome back. 324 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: The Urban Meyer Show continues along the Jaguars Radio Network. 325 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: JP Shadrick, Jeff Logavan head coach Urban Meyer on the 326 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer Show. As the Jaguars head to Los Angeles 327 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: so Fi Stadium to face the Los Angeles Rams. Leaving 328 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: early for the trip again. Did that earlier this year, 329 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: headed out Friday to Seattle, heading out Friday again to California. 330 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: Take us through that decision again, Why why the early trip? 331 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: A lot of those decisions I leave up to the 332 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: players and what's been done in the past. You know, 333 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: the only experience I had was at Notre Dame. We 334 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: went out to USC and we'd go up to day 335 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: early because of the time change, and so I visited 336 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: with players what's been done in the past and coaches 337 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: that have done it before. Trent was very helpful to us. 338 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: That's why we're doing it. The trip trip to to 339 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: l A is certainly always different. I remember one of 340 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: my first trips to l A. It's certainly I opening 341 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: a little bit, and it's gonna be eye opening in 342 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: more ways than one for your football team. And that 343 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: it's an incredible new stadium, so Fi stadium home for 344 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: the Rams and also the Chargers. Do you're gonna Are 345 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: you gonna be able to see it or to walk 346 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: through it maybe the day before the game. Are you 347 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: gonna practice there? How do you do that? We're gonna 348 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: practice that? Uh? It might be U C. L A. 349 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm understanding, we're still finalizing all that. I know we'll 350 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: go through. Uh uh, you know that. That's what's the 351 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: old Hoosiers when the guy got on the guy's shoulders 352 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: and he measured his ten feet, great scene free throw 353 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: lines this, and so I might bring the tape measure 354 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: out and show those guys. It's a beautiful stadium. But 355 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: all these guys are pros here, and you know, I've 356 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: been around some great stadiums and I understand it's phenomenal. 357 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: But that's not our concern or concern. As the All 358 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: Star team we're playing. Yeah, let's get to those Los 359 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: Angeles Rams. Um. They've lost three straights they needed obviously 360 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: to stay in the NFC playoff raise. Of course the 361 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: Jaguars need this game also, the three game losing skid. Here. 362 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: Let's this Rams offense though Matthew Stafford, brought over from 363 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: Detroit the last few weeks, has turned the ball over 364 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: a little bit. They've got the top receiver in the 365 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: NFL and Cooper Cup and when they're on, they can 366 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: be a very dangerous offense. Yeah, and they just got 367 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: the other guy out of the uh so just happened 368 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: to get him. And then he got Jefferson, who I 369 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: actually recruited, committed me on high school. He's a very 370 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: athletic player too. Uh. Zach Kigbie the wide tight end 371 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: is a very good player. But it all it's driven 372 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: by that quarterback. You know, are uh Darryl Bevel coaching 373 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: but Detroit I've coached against him. Way, he's a Georgia. 374 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: I know him. You know, when I was trying to 375 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: hire a coordinator, I talked to him a couple of times. 376 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: That's how much respect I have from Matthew Stafford. And uh, 377 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: when he's on. He's he's Aaron Rodgers type player. When 378 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: he's not, you know, he's like a lot of quarterbacks 379 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: when they struggle. So I don't know if he's banged 380 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: up a little bit, but they've got excellent skill. The 381 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: three Whiteouts are all excellent players. The offense line. Their 382 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: left tackle was forty years old Whitworth. I think his 383 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: name is Andrew Whitworth. Yeah, he's been around and he's 384 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: a giant man. But that you know, that coach and 385 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: that staff, they put together a very good team. You 386 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: talk about Whitworth, it reminds me of one of the 387 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 1: guys that I got to sit next to in our 388 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: NFL Players Association Union meetings, which was Jackie Slater. Not 389 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: many guys have been able to play the game at 390 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: offensive tackle for nearly twenty years, and Whitworth is one 391 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: of those guys, just a freak of nature. Well, Jeff, 392 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: you're only forty one. Let's go. He's still got some 393 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: Those knees are fine. Let I don't think so. But 394 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: it's amazing to me that a guy can play that long. 395 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: You know, the Clay Matthews of the world, the whit Worst, 396 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: the Jackie Slaters, I mean, guys that have longevity, that 397 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: take care of their audi in such a great way 398 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: and are not able to do it at a high level. 399 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I've always had the most all the respect 400 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: in the world for those guys because of the way 401 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: that they handle themselves, in the way that they've always 402 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: taken care of themselves. That's the only way you can survive, 403 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: you know. The greatest testimony is that quarterback in Tampa. 404 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: You know what are we you know, what are you 405 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: talking about? But that I was really amazed by that 406 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: because a lot of times you seem abe a quarterback 407 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: or a certain position with an offensive alignment and he's 408 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: still really good. Um, he's a giant human being, and 409 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: he's you know, he very rarely gets into three point 410 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: stance if ever, and he's just a giant, you know, 411 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: he very hard to get around him in pass pro 412 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: and he just kind of wallows off the ball with 413 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: you know him, and he just does a great job. 414 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: A big, big band who's older. By the way, is 415 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: it Sean McVeigh or Andrew Whitworth because Whitworth. But one 416 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: of one of the things I think about the Rams 417 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: offense that that they've always been built on with Sean McVeigh, 418 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: even though they had this star studded cast of wide receivers, 419 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: even though one of them is on injured reserve. Has 420 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: been the foundation of the running game, and Sean McVeigh 421 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: has always loved play action. Are they still that or 422 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: have they morphed a little bit with the the star 423 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: studded cast at wide receiver. They're they're a passing team 424 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: right now. You know they're They're a team that I 425 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: don't have the analytics in front of me, r the 426 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: numbers for you, but just watching them, you know they're 427 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: a passing team. They're gonna get the ball in hands 428 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: of the white outse are gonna lies the strength and 429 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: that's a quarterback throwing the ball. By the way, Yeah, 430 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: Sean mcveigh's thirty five years of age. Andrew Wentworth turns 431 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: forty and December twelve. Ram's defense. I wonder if he 432 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: gets bed checked by the way. I think Andrew Wentworth 433 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: gets bet checked by showman. I don't think so. Maybe 434 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: not um Ram's defense coach, Aaron Donald obviously a multiple 435 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: NFL Defensive Player of the Year, First Team All Pro 436 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: over and over again. Where do you start with Aaron Donald? 437 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: Donald he might be the best three technique I've ever seen, 438 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: you know, and I've seen some great ones. And his quickness, 439 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: his tenacity, his strength. Uh. You know, Bevels coached against him, 440 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: so Schottenheimer, so they know him very well. This will 441 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 1: be my first time I've heard about him. Uh, incredible 442 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: respect for him. Uh, but he is you have to 443 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: count for him every snap and that's a simple you 444 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: used to slide to him. He gets four hands on him. 445 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's he's that good of a player. And 446 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: when I say he's arguably the best three technique that 447 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: I've seen, that's a lot of that's a lot of 448 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: football I've watched for thirty five years. He's he's six 449 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: ft one and two pounds and just looking at the 450 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: number standpoint, you wouldn't think that somebody could be so exceptional, 451 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: and he is. And I remember Irvan watching his college 452 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: tape going, man, this guy is kind of like a 453 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: little Tasmanian devil. He just never quits. And just a 454 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: little tidbit when I watched his film, the only guy 455 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: that I ever saw have great success against him in 456 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: college was your center Brandon Linder. Really, he was outstanding 457 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: against Aaron Donald in college. Well, we got the center back, 458 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: and it's good to have him back, certainly, but they're 459 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: not only just him. I mean they've got now von Miller, 460 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: who is probably a first ballot Hall of Famer on 461 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: one side, and then Leonard Little on the other side. 462 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: I mean, so this is gonna be a obviously a 463 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: tough task for your offensive line, and and running the 464 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: football would certainly help that. It would, and uh, we 465 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: know some teams run the ball on him a little 466 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,719 Speaker 1: bit too, but both defensive ends you have. You know, 467 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: it just cracked me up. And he said, let's go 468 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: get out Odell Beckham Jr. And let's go by the way. 469 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: I just remember, never forget that. Trevor looked to me, goes, oh, 470 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: we get to see von Miller again. And I'm like, 471 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: what are you talking about? And he's out at the ramps. 472 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: So very good. But you know what, um our line, 473 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: when they play their best, are very good. Uh, you 474 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: just go back to our facing those guy the Cardinals defense, 475 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: but I think some one of the best defense in 476 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: the NFL. And we ran eight straight times at him 477 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: and scored a touchdown. We kept Chandler Jones off our quarterback. 478 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: You know, von Miller had one sack, but for the 479 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: most part we hung in there. So, um, let's let's go, 480 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: let's go play, and let our guys get ready. Let's 481 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: get these guys ready to let him go play. You know, 482 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: when I've watched a lot of football, when I said 483 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: Leonard Little, when I'm going back to an old l A. 484 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: Ram or should I say St. Louis friends, I mean, wow, 485 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: That's my question is when you do a survey of 486 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: the radio show, how many people remember him? I certainly do. 487 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: I mean he was a good one, that he was 488 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: a really good football player. But yeah, a little little 489 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: little back from the back crevices of your minds up 490 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: the pops out. One guy you might hear before you 491 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: see is Jalen Ramsey. But when you see him, what 492 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: do you see in a cornerback out there? I see 493 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: a guy that wish was here, you know, I wish 494 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: I'd cut my hands on him because I think, uh, 495 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: I remember him coming out of Florida. Obviously, in my 496 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: background of Florida, I knew all about him. One of 497 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: the best in the game, if not the best of 498 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: the game. Uh. They move them all. They play him 499 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: inside and Nicole quite a bit. They know they're not 500 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: really a true man. They're a match team. But he's 501 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: just he's the guy they just a little bit like 502 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: von Miller. He's the best at his job, the three technique. 503 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: He is the best at his job. And now the 504 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: corner as the best at their job. So they've done 505 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: a nice job building this thing, all right, Urban final 506 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: thought with you heading into week thirteen, keeping the players 507 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: and the coaches focused and and going forward each week 508 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 1: down the stretch here, and it's really for you personally 509 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: the first time you've really had to kind of deal 510 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: with this type of adversity and wins and losses. How's 511 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: it holding up? How do you motivate these guys each week? 512 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: Moving ahead? Well, I made a comment I could lie 513 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: to you and say, you know, I'm not a good 514 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: liar about that. I Uh, losing kills you. It kills you. 515 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: It takes party away every time you lose. I really 516 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: believe that, and that's why he works so hard to 517 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: do what not to lose. And I speak on the 518 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: out of our staff and players. I mean, we we 519 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: gotta go win and and we're in a street fight 520 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: every week. At times. We're right there, you know, twice 521 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: we walked away with a win, and we gotta have 522 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: more of those. How do you do that? Just clean 523 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: things up and people got to make plays. You know, 524 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you got to go 525 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: up like Tavon Austin put us in position to help 526 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: us go win a game. And that's what that's not. 527 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: That's everything I'm telling you. It's not a secret. That's 528 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: how you go win in athletics, particularly game of football. 529 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: Urban great stuff. Enjoyed the conversation tonight. We'll talk to 530 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: you again next week. Head coach Urban Meyer with us 531 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: Back with Lauren the Urban Meyers Show on the Jaguars 532 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: Radio Network. Welcome Back. The Urban Meyers Show continues along 533 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: the Jaguars Radio Network. Then welcome back, It's the Urban 534 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: Meyers Show. J P Shadrick, Jeff Flagmaner thanks to Jaguars 535 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: head coach Urban Meyer, who joins us in the first 536 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: half hour every week here on the Jaguars Radio Network. 537 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: The names all over the place this week, But you 538 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: know he's flattered, he said about all the name recognition 539 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 1: going with these openings in college football. But he has 540 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: committed to the Jaguars, committed to Jags owners, Shot con 541 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: and the organization and wants to get this thing right. 542 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: So I'm glad he's glad he addressed it. Actually, well, 543 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: I mean that's lucky he had to, because I mean, 544 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: he has been so wildly successful as a college coach, 545 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: and it's natural that his name is going to get 546 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: thrown around and and uh, and the reality is, until 547 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,239 Speaker 1: you start winning here, that probably will always come up 548 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: when there is an opening in college. It's just it's 549 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: just natural. And it's not anybody trying to do anything 550 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: in a in a in a negative fashion. That's just 551 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: it's just part of the business. It is it is. 552 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: And so maybe it's been swept away for the time being. 553 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: And I don't one thing. J V. Urban's probably sitting 554 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: there and I was going to ask him this, but 555 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to go and do that. 556 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: But he's probably sitting there going, wait a minute, ten million, 557 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: ten million to go to l s U. Lincoln Riley 558 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: got more than that to go to sc and got 559 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: a six million dollar home, use of a private jet. 560 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: It's my guess that he's doing just fine here. Sure, 561 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure he is, but but still you're probably sitting 562 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: there going what they like that in get three national championships. 563 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: That's the times of change. It just goes to show 564 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: you that college football is at the end of the day, 565 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: it's it's business. And so for all the purest out 566 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: there that have said that players shouldn't be paid, I mean, 567 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: doesn't this kind of speak to that and say maybe 568 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: the player should get a little something and that now 569 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: that things are different and they can it's not such 570 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: a bad thing, right, and the transfer portals open for business, 571 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: and those guys are moving all over the places different, yeah, 572 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,239 Speaker 1: and it's good it should. I think that's a I 573 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: think that's a totally fair thing, especially especially with in 574 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: light of what some of the things that are happening now. 575 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: I mean, players should have the ability to have some 576 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: some freedom of movement and to be able to because 577 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: I mean, the reality is is that this is a 578 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: career for some of them, a career to be able 579 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: to advance to the next level, to monetize their talents. 580 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: And so why shouldn't they have the ability if they're 581 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: not playing and and have the ability to be a 582 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: good player, to move from one place to another. I 583 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: think it's fair. I was just like in the NFL 584 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: I've I was always an advocate for free agency. And 585 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: I remember having conversations with Bruce Coslet back in the 586 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: nineteen years and we were talking at that point about 587 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: free agency and he was like, you know, it's it's 588 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: not a good thing. And Bruce was a player that 589 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: became a coach, longtime coach for the Cincinnati Bengals, head 590 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: coach of the Jets when I was there, and I said, Bruce, 591 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: I said, free agency is gonna do an amazing thing 592 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: for the game. I said, it's going to give people hope. 593 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: And I said and on top of that, it's gonna 594 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: make it a year round conversation. And he's like, I 595 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: get out of here. You know, he's kind of old school. 596 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: And uh, and sure enough free agency came about, but 597 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: it was but that's a good thing. I mean, free 598 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: NC is good. The portal is good for college and uh, 599 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: I need to get into coaching apparently, so you need 600 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: to brush up in my exes and ohse it sounds 601 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: like we'll come back in a moment. Let' ask you 602 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: a question real quick here. Yeah, does Lincoln Riley get 603 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: the like with the jet right that this use of 604 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: the jet jet. Let's say I want to go get 605 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: a steak dinner at indian St Elmo's in Indy. Yeah, 606 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: shrimp cocks and and I'm the head coach of the Trojan. 607 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: Can I hop in the plane, fly to Indy and 608 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: grab a shrimp shrump cocktail there? Hey, you know what, 609 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: keep it running. I'll be back in about an hour 610 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: and just eat the shrimp cocktail and then say, I 611 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: want to go to Peter Luker's in New York to 612 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: get the main course. So so can I? Can I 613 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: hop from Indianapolis for the appetizer and then have a 614 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: drink on the plane to go to New York to 615 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,959 Speaker 1: get a steak at Peter Luver's I mean, and then 616 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: maybe fly to Boston to get a pie. Who is 617 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: in the position to say no to that right now? 618 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if many people I would. I would 619 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: imagine he's got some guideline. But it's just fun thinking 620 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: of that anyway, because you know, and and why I 621 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: always think of it in terms of food. I have 622 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: no idea where you are. I'm a foodie, you are. 623 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: Let's come back. We'll get a little more into this 624 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: Jaguars offense. He had some interesting comments tonight about what 625 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: his offense should be and that changes with the personnel. Obviously. 626 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: We'll break it that down when we come back. It's 627 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: the Urban Meyers Show on Jaguars Radio. Wow, Welcome back. 628 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: The Urban Meyer Show continues along the Jaguars Radio Network. 629 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back the Urban Meyers Show, rolling along j P. Shadrick, 630 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: Jeff Logaman, head coach, Urban Meyer joining us in the 631 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: first half hour every Tuesday afternoon here on the network. 632 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us today. We're getting ready for 633 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: the Jags of the Rams coming up. And we asked him, 634 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: what is your ideal offense? What does it look like? 635 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: What do you know? What's the what does that? What 636 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: does that answer? And well, he said, who's the quarterback, 637 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: who's the who's the person I think it's a great 638 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: answer because literally, I think every offense should be different 639 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: based on the talent that you do or do not have. 640 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: I mean, in a perfect world, you'd like to build 641 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: towards what maybe this ideal that you have, but the 642 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: reality is you don't always have that. For example, you 643 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: can't be a uh a drop back passing game if 644 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: you're Lamar Jackson, that's not what he does best. You 645 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: can't expect Tom Brady to operate in a large Lamar 646 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: Jackson offense or vice versa. So it has to be 647 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: based upon personnel, much like he talked about defensively in college, 648 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: who say, hey, look we've got these fast defensive ends, 649 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: and much like coming here to where you've got Caleb 650 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: and Chase on Smoot and Josh Allen, which are three 651 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: or four outside linebackers slash hybrid ends that can do both. Okay, 652 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: well what do they do best? Well, they can do everything, 653 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: So let's be a multiple defense. So I think that's 654 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: that's the best approach to have as a coach, and 655 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: it's a smart it's a smart way to approach business. 656 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: And I think going forward, you'd like to maybe find 657 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: pieces that fit with your vision is gonna be. But 658 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: until you get all those pieces to maybe fit where 659 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: you'd ultimately like to be, you have to be what 660 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: they are, which whatever their talents are, utilize their talents. 661 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: For example, le Viscoschnlt's not a down the field, go 662 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: route type of guy. Okay, he's kind of a hybrid 663 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: tight end running back slash receiver. In the middle of 664 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: the field. When he's got the ball in his hands, 665 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: he's great think he can run over people, and he 666 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: has to, and he's got to do a better job 667 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: with the mental aspect of the game. I mean that 668 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: fourth and ten were clearly him and the quarterback weren't 669 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: on the same page. That's not okay. Earlier in the 670 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: game it looked like you had a little bit of 671 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: a miscommunication as well. You know, you've worked with a quarterback, 672 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: and Labisca has worked with a quarterback longer probably than anybody, 673 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: because he didn't miss any time in preseason. Was there 674 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: for training camp and everything else. Those things have to 675 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: be on point, and they weren't on Sunday. So uh. 676 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: The other receivers, Lakwan Treadwell had four catches fifty three yards. 677 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: Still like him, JP, I still like him, I do. 678 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: And Davion Austin had a touchdown catch just real quick 679 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: on on Treadible. The reason I like him is that 680 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: you need to be to get your rhythm backed. You 681 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: need to be more successful running the ball to take 682 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: some pressure off the quarterback. And Lakwan Treadwell has done 683 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: an excellent job. He's by far the best blocking wide 684 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: receiver on this team right now, and he's a contributor 685 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: on special teams. I'm not talking about a guy that's 686 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: just lining up and playing special teams and you know, 687 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: and punching a clock. I mean, he's he's good. And 688 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: this is a former first round pick that probably got 689 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: an incredibly big dose of reality to realize that if 690 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay in the game, I've got to be 691 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: able to do some of these other things. And I 692 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: give him credit because that's not an easy transition to make, 693 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: to go from being an expected top end wide receiver 694 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: to being a wide receiver that that's gonna block and 695 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 1: gonna play on special teams and maybe get some catches 696 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: here every now and again. I give credit to him 697 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: as a person for being able to to adapt to 698 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: that role because that's not exactly I'm sure what he 699 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: envisioned when he was drafted. I mentioned ten Austin had 700 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: his first touchdown in a couple of years in the NFL, 701 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: another catch in the game twenty one total yards against 702 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: the Falcons. And then Marvin Jones Jr. Who has a 703 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: lengthy streak now of consecutive games with at least one 704 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: reception straight games now and then he made some really 705 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: nice catches in the game, four of them in the game. 706 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: They weren't easy there. There was a couple of them 707 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: where he had to kind of get the outstretched arms. 708 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: Had one of them where he dove kind of for 709 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: the ball a little bit and then rolled for the 710 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: first down. Great body control and Tavan Austin when he 711 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: caught that ball in the middle and then made a 712 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: quick move to get up the field. I was sitting 713 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: there thinking to myself, where has he been and where 714 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: has that been for like the last five weeks. Can 715 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: we not get him the ball in a short area 716 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: and let his quickness kind of do something after the catch? Yeah, 717 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: that was I mean, it was good to see. Boy. 718 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: You'd like to see more of that, and you'd like 719 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: to have seen more of that already because it's he's 720 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: been with his team for a while now this year. 721 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: Yes he has. We'll return in a moment. Jaguars defense 722 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: with their hands full this week against the l A Rams. 723 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, the receivers and an offense that Ken put 724 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: some points on the board in l A. And This 725 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: is the Rban Meyers Show on the Jaguars Radio Network. 726 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: Welcome Back Urban Meyers Show continues along the Jaguars Radio 727 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 1: Network Welcome back the Urban Meyers Show, j P Shadrick, 728 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: Jeff Lockerman, head coach Urban Meyer with us in the 729 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: first half hour every week here on the network. The 730 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: Jags in the Los Angeles Rams coming up. Well, they're 731 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: gonna face the Rams offense. That as Matthew Stafford back there. 732 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,959 Speaker 1: He's been at it in the league for a long time, 733 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: playing at a high level. But now they wouldn't got 734 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: him from Detroit in the off season. It's a really 735 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 1: kind of cap off this offense. They've got Cooper Cup, 736 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: they had Robert Woods, he's hurt. They brought it Odell 737 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: Beckham Jr. It's only going to be his third game. 738 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: That's kind of stinks that Robert Woods got hurt. I mean, 739 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: because that was gonna be you know, the they would 740 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: have the ability to essentially to run three a lot 741 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: of three and four wide receiver sets with legitimate guys 742 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 1: and and I mean it's good for the Jaguars that 743 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: they lost him, but I wanted to see all of that. 744 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to see the Rams with all of their weapons, 745 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: to see what they could do with that this year. Yeah, yeah, 746 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: I mean it's OK. I mean, you never you always 747 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 1: want teams to be able to play at full strength 748 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: and guys not to get hurt. You know. For example, 749 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: the injury to Jack Conklin on Monday night, the offensive 750 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: tackle for the Cleveland Browns, I mean, just turn to go. 751 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: You feel heartbroken for the guy. Uh, Robert Woods kind 752 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: of the same way. But but Jack Conklin especially just 753 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: because he's he's battled a lot of injuries over the 754 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: last couple of years. He had the a c L 755 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: and then he was hurt when he came back from that. 756 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: In my opinion, they rushed him back way too early 757 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 1: in Tennessee and then he got the kind I think 758 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: he had a shoulder after that. And then he tours 759 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,720 Speaker 1: Pateeller Monday night against I think it was that the buffet. 760 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 1: It was the Baltimore Cleveland game. So you always want 761 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: everybody to be at full strengthened, for everybody to have 762 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: their their their full arsenal of weapons. And Robert Woods 763 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: toured in practice of all things. Right, Yeah, it was 764 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: right after they had acquired Odell Beck days before, Like, 765 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: are you kidding? So the Jaguars defense is past week. 766 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: Gave a bunch of rushing yards. A lot of those 767 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: were early and earlier in the game, as Urban referenced 768 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: earlier in the show tonight, but they still gave up 769 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: a bunch of rushing yards in the game. Cordell Or 770 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: Patterson court darry Old Patterson was the the main target 771 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: there of course. Last week. Um, you know, they've done 772 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: a pretty good job. It's Jaguars defense most of the 773 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: year against the run, though, and you know the Rams 774 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: aren't going to run it down your throat all the time. 775 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: You know, they don't have the kind of firepower weapons 776 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: in the backfield that you know some of these other 777 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: teams that the Jaguars have seen do have, So that 778 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: may not be as much of a concern this week. 779 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: My hope lies JP when you go back to the game. 780 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: But four games ago or whenever it was, when Buffalo 781 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: is coming down here and nobody gave the Jaguars a chance. 782 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 1: No body, nobody, I mean, I mean nobody, nobody outside 783 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,439 Speaker 1: this building. You know what happened. They won the game. 784 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: They well, they held Buffalo to a season low and 785 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: points and yards and quarterback rating on their way to 786 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 1: a victory. And it kind of showed that people have 787 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 1: the old saying that on a given on any given Sunday. 788 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: It's there for a reason. So can the Jaguars go 789 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: out west and beat the Rams? Sure they can. It's 790 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: going to require one great effort as a football team, 791 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: but I think the the game plan has already been 792 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: shown to them. All you have to do is look 793 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: at the last three weeks. Teams are being more physical 794 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: than them, especially the forty Niners game. And when you 795 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 1: look at different game plans or blue blueprints to how 796 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: teams have had success against an opponent, you got to 797 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: look at it and say can we do that? Like, 798 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: you can't go out there and do what Green Bay did. 799 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: You don't. You don't have Aaron Rodgers and you have 800 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, but he's not Aaron Rodgers yet. I mean 801 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: you hope he becomes something like an Aaron rod So 802 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: can you do what the forty Niners did? Yeah? Maybe 803 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,879 Speaker 1: run the football and run it effectively and limit the 804 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: number of throws, put together long drives. Can you do that? 805 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: Got a chance because you've run the ball pretty well. 806 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: James Robinson last week, Even though we know that he's not, 807 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: his numbers drastically improved last week. He was about two 808 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,280 Speaker 1: yards per carry off his off of his earlier season 809 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: pace in the two games when he came back from 810 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 1: an injury. This past game, he was nearly back to 811 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: the pre injury level at yards per carry. But we 812 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 1: know he's not. But at least it was better. So 813 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: that gives you hope that. Okay, look, you can be 814 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: physical against the Rams and keep Matt Stafford in that 815 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: offense off the field. Hopefully that would be nice. We'll 816 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: take one last time out and we'll come back with 817 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: some final thoughts ahead of Week thirteen. We're headed to December. 818 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: It's here locks time to play your best football and 819 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,280 Speaker 1: you want the arrow going up. We'll continue to discuss 820 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,479 Speaker 1: that when we return. This is the Urban Meyer Show 821 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: on Jaguars Radio. Welcome Back. The Urban Meyer Show continues 822 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: along the Jaguars Radio Network. Welcome back to rban Meyer Show, 823 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,439 Speaker 1: rolling along JP Shaddrick, Jeff Logaman, head coach Urban Meyer 824 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: in the first half hour every week. Joe Fortunado on 825 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: the audio, Rent Reber on the video on Jaguars dot Com, 826 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: and the Jaguars get the Los Angeles Rams in Week 827 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: thirteen at SOFI Stadium in Inglewood, California, five billion dollar 828 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 1: complex south of You gotta remember one thing California prices 829 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: it is, but apparently it's uh it's spectacular from all 830 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 1: the things as you see on television and all the 831 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: reviews of it. So the Jack's been there before. They 832 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: went last year. Uh you know broadcast to crew didn't 833 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: go last. Yeah, we didn't travel last. The guys that 834 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: were on the team have seen it before and now, uh, 835 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 1: you know, it's a team that the Rams need it. 836 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,919 Speaker 1: They've lost three. They feel like this is their year. 837 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: They're all in with all these superstars and everything. They're 838 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 1: losing football games all of a sudden. Jaguars needed for 839 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: a different reason, just to get some positivity and and 840 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,439 Speaker 1: play a complete game. They really haven't done that even 841 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 1: in their wins this year. UM full three phase, complete 842 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: game where they go out and and play well on 843 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: all sides all game long. I did, I do I 844 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: want to see. I've said this before, but I think 845 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,439 Speaker 1: it's still the most important thing and it probably can't 846 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,760 Speaker 1: be spoken enough, and that this season is about Trevor 847 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:55,240 Speaker 1: Lawrence and and getting your young quarterback experience and getting 848 00:42:55,320 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: him better and seeing him improve. And so that's the 849 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: remainder of the season needs to be. And I know 850 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: the last two weeks, Urban had talked about how he 851 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 1: felt like, you know, this past week the offense got 852 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,399 Speaker 1: a little better. He thought that a couple of weeks ago, 853 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 1: Trevor had a good game. And uh, the reality is 854 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: that you've you've got to start scoring more than fourteen 855 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: points in a ball game or ten points in a 856 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: ball game. I think for for most people to look 857 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 1: at it and go, yeah, I see that. And and 858 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: also from the standpoint of Trevors, Trevor Philling, and Trevor 859 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: is not feeling great about scoring, you know, twenty four 860 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 1: points in the last two ball games or how many 861 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: points has it been in the last five games plus 862 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: whatever it was fifty seven points in the last five games. 863 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just not enough when the season average 864 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: is twenty three a game, So you have to the 865 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: NFL average per game is twenty three points a game. 866 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 1: So they've got some work to do, and they've they 867 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: definitely have some time to work on it, and so 868 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,720 Speaker 1: you can't waste the time that you do have. Network 869 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: coverage begins Sunday at three o'clock ahead of the four 870 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 1: oh five kickoff, will have countdown to kickoff. Of course, 871 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: the final word with head coach Urban Meyern before kick 872 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes before they put total leather at SO 873 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 1: five Stadium. You know who I'm looking forward to seeing Mojo? Yeah, 874 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: he's on the radio crew for the Rams. Mojoe is 875 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 1: the is the color analysts on the radio broadcast of 876 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams, and so I'll get to see Mojoe 877 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: and it's always good to see him. It'll be good 878 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: watching him on the NFL network. Tom, I'm a big 879 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 1: fan of his. Thanks for our tired crew and our 880 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 1: thanks to head coach Urban Meyer. For Jeff Logoman. I'm 881 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick. We will catch you next time. It's 882 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 1: the Urban Meyer Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.