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My next guest is 34 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: the food editor of The New York Times, a columnist 35 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: for the New York Time Times magazine, and the founding 36 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: editor n y T Cooking, an award winning digital cookbook 37 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: and cookie school. He is also the author of Thanksgiving 38 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: How to Cook It Well. He's on the show to 39 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 1: talk about his newest cookbook, and I would put the 40 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: word amazing. Cookbook see you on Sunday, A cookbook for 41 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: family and friends, available now from Random House. Please welcome 42 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation, Sam Sifton. How are you doing? Sam? 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: I had to had to put the word amazing in 44 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: front of your cookbook Sidday Cookbook for Family and Friends. Um, Sam, 45 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: I've been doing this show. Well, I have a long history, 46 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: you know radio syndicated radio Steve Harvey and launched his 47 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: talk show in twent twelve. So I saw a lot 48 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: of recipe books and a lot of cooks and a a 49 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: lot of chefs in my time. I've done this show 50 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: since seventeen, a lot of chefs. I'm a foodie. I'm 51 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: a award winning baker. I have an app with like 52 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: eight recipe baking recipes. Your book, my friend and I 53 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: have like bye bye bye. Over the years. I got 54 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: by by form they sit in my house that I love. Yours, 55 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: go to the go to the top of the line. 56 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: This is an amazing cookbook. Well, I thank you for 57 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: saying so. I wrote it because I wanted to put 58 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: out into the world a message that if you cook 59 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: for your family, if you cook for your friends, and 60 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: you do so on a regular basis so that people 61 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: can think like it doesn't have to be a Sunday. 62 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: It could be a Thursday night or a Saturday night. 63 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: But if people know that it's coming and can count 64 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: on it in some way, then they count on you, 65 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: and you count on them. Your life and their lives 66 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: are going to be better. And the recipes, I'm glad 67 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: you love them. I love them too, but they're incidental 68 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: to the message and the messages. Regularity matters and building 69 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: that kind of community matters, and family matters. But I'll 70 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: tell you I take a much wider view of what 71 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: constitute family than the dictionary does. Um there are plenty 72 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: of anybody's welcome at my table, and I think that's 73 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: important to say and to and to and a truth 74 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: to walk and believe in. Um there, you know, I 75 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: think I say in the book, people are lonely. You 76 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: gotta feed them, and you need to find them in 77 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: your community alongside your family. Family the most important. But 78 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: take a wide view of what family is. You know, 79 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: it's really interesting you say that because I come from 80 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: a big family. You know, six sisters, two brothers when 81 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: I was growing up and I've become successful in my life. 82 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: I travel a lot, so I tend to eat by 83 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: myself a lot. And I really don't appreciate the meal. 84 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm just consuming the meal. And and that's not fair 85 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: to the moment I feel. And sometimes I see other 86 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: people and and you know, and and I've actually walked 87 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: to other people's tables. Hey, you liked the company. You know, 88 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: some people have looked at me. We're you know, and 89 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: but but that but I know that some people have 90 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: sat down. We had a marvelous time the the moment 91 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: of dinner. It was extended longer, and uh, and we 92 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: learned something about each other, you know, and and and 93 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: our values of were shared there. And that's what dinner, 94 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: tim and eating really supposed to be about. It supposed 95 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: to be an experience in the moment. Correct, that's what 96 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: you're sharing in his book. I completely agree, that is 97 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: what That is what I like. But you raise a 98 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: really interesting point, which is that for for those of 99 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: us who have seen some success in their in their lives, 100 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: it does lead to travel, and it doesn't generally lead 101 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: to solo travel. And you know, you're describing that I've 102 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: been that, I've been that guy sitting alone at the 103 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: bar with a book those wings and just thinking I'm 104 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: supposed to be the guy telling everybody to share a 105 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: family dinner and I'm eating to play the wings alone 106 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: at the hotel bar. That I think you're absolutely right 107 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: that that we need to reach out and try every 108 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: time we gather in the presence of food and drink 109 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: to to to connect. Yeah, because it guess what, great 110 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: food leads to a great atmosphere, leads to a good conversation, 111 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: leads to a relationship building moment. And that's why I 112 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: really just let me tell you that I got your 113 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: book if it came in via ups yesterday afternoon and 114 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: I arrived home, so I knew it was at my house, 115 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: and so I immediately opened these recipe books and I 116 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: go to the front of the back and I go, 117 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: and I like, I got over the years, I got 118 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: liked by four books, and your book. I immediately went 119 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: to the dessert section and I went to peach pie Peach, 120 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: and I read that recipe. I go, you got to 121 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: be kidding me? Is that easy? That's simple? Your recipes 122 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: throughout your book are frighteningly simple. Yeah, they're designed to 123 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: be My belief and my belief is, and and you 124 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: know that I've said this before. Um, they're trying to 125 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: trick us half the time with these recipes that make 126 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: it like it's like it's a science experiment or you're 127 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: building a rocket to go out the moon. It doesn't 128 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: need to be that way. If you think how your 129 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: mother or your grandmother cooked, there wasn't it wasn't complicated. Um, 130 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: it's just a it's a it's step by step by step. 131 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: And I try as much as possible and in my 132 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: development of the recipes and my writing of the recipes 133 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: to make the language as clear as possible so that 134 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: there's no mystery to it. Um. And I'm not invested 135 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: in making anyone believe that it's more complicated than it 136 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: really is. Uh. It should be simple, and it is simple. 137 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Sam Sifton, his book See You on Sunday, 138 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: a cookbook for family and France. So I get get 139 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: and so I cook a lot, I bake a lot. 140 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: So you have you have a great portion of the 141 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: book how to set up your kitchen. You know, getting ready. 142 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: You should always be ready for the moment. I was 143 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: ready for the moment when this book arrived okay, Sam, 144 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: so so, so I went to this sexually said pan 145 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: roasted chicken thighs. And I'm telling you on on Tuesday, 146 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: I just went to the store and Boston to I 147 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: love chicken thighs, chicken breasts. I just like the keeping 148 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: and draw mat. I can keep them in there. I 149 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: could just put some sometimes something, just some cream and 150 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: mushroom soup over them, and put some cheese on the Bam, 151 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: It's ready for me, like quick. And so so I 152 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: went in there, I went, okay, now, this this is 153 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: too simple. Tware, bone and skin on chicken thighs, kasher salt, 154 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: freshly ground black pepper, a half a cup of of 155 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: oral such as canola or grape seed. That's it. Yeah, man, 156 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: ch that's it. I kid you not. I followed these 157 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: instructions and had a marvelous meal last night. You didn't 158 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: need the chicken. You don't need the cream and mushroom soup. 159 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: You didn't need the chicken. Chicken. This this this right here. 160 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: You know I've never met you, saying I fell in 161 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: love with you right there, my father, we became brethren 162 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: and food right there. I was eating by myself, but 163 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: I was thinking about you. The whole time. And that's 164 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: the purpose of this correct God is correct um. Although 165 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: I would hope that we could um not just eat alone, 166 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: but eat was a group of people and sharing the 167 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: fellowship of the table and and watch our lives improve 168 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: over time as a result. Well, you know the thing 169 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: when I, when I say that thinking about you is 170 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: that you know, just personalized in my life because a 171 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: lot of times I eat, I just eat, okay, and 172 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: and but this time I was enjoying the meal. I 173 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: was enjoying the journey of how I got to the middle, 174 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: and enjoying the person who brought this experience to me. 175 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: And that was important for me to say in this 176 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: interview with you, and important to tell people why I'm maxed. 177 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: So why I'm so excited about this book. See you 178 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: on Sunday. You know it's a great book. Is by 179 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: Sam system Food, editor of the New York Times. And 180 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: when I when I, when I go through the book, 181 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: you know it opens what you talk about family, talk 182 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: about your kids, and you talk about the importance of 183 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: that relationship. But the part that really I really liked 184 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: about its early on in the how to call it, 185 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: how to set up your kitchen, how to this important. Well. 186 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: I think it's important to kind of set the stage 187 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: for how you're actually going to get this done. I 188 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: see it as my job to give you the confidence, 189 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: uh to execute these recipes, to to execute a change 190 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: in your life where you're cooking on the regular for 191 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: family and friends. In in in order to do that, I 192 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: think you need to have You got to have your 193 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: stuff correct. You gotta have the tools that you need, 194 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: You've got to have the pantry supplies that you need. 195 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: It's not a lot of stuff, right, but it's really 196 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: not like it's not bossy, it's not impossible. It's just 197 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: kind of getting your stuff correct so that you can 198 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: execute uh the recipes. And I think it's like just 199 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: breaking it down as simply as possible offers people, um 200 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: the chance to confident that they're gonna have a successful 201 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: outcome when they turn to a recipe. I think too 202 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: often when I read a recipe, I'm not set up 203 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: for it. I'm like, wait what, shut what? And I 204 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: don't want to ever put anybody in that position where 205 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: they think, oh gosh, this isn't for me, guess what 206 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: it is for you. I don't care where you're from, 207 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: but I don't care how old you are, young, you are, 208 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,599 Speaker 1: where are you live in the country. You're going to 209 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: be able to pull these recipes off and have a 210 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: good result with your friends and your family. Man, this 211 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: is awesome. You're we're listening to Sam Sifton his great, 212 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: amazing book recipe book, Cookbook, uh family book. See you 213 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: on Sunday, a cookbook for family and friends. People right back, 214 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: because now I'm gonna break down these recipes. I'm not 215 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: gonna get you all the recipe, but we got to 216 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: talk about this is the book, a book to you, y'all. 217 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: This is the Bible of recipe books. Here. Sam has 218 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: created something that I'm telling I'm saying, my wife just 219 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: got back in town. She's gonna fight me for this book. 220 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more from Mars McDonald and 221 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: money making Conversations. Don't touch that doubt. 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That's O T T 256 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: E R. Dot Ai. Money Making Conversations continues online at 257 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: www dot money Making Conversations dot com and follow money 258 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: Making Conversations on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Ladies and gentlemen, 259 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: it's time you stop thinking about your dreams and with 260 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: some plans into action. H this was Sean McDonald and 261 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: you're listening to money making conversation. I'm excited. Everybody knows 262 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: I'm a foodie. Everybody love no I love dessert. Everybody 263 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: know that if I if I see a good meal, 264 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you about if I see a good meal. 265 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: If I'm eating a good meal, I take a picture 266 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: and forced to post it. I have this uh blog 267 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: on my social media called roshan each where I travel 268 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: around and if I eat a great meal, I take 269 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: a picture and post it and help recommend people to 270 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: UH go to this restaurant and eat the particular meal 271 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: that I am so enjoyed at that restaurant. And everybody 272 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: knows that when I sit down and eat, I will 273 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: order my dessert before I order my meal, because I 274 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: love of my desserts, but also I love good food. 275 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: And this book that I'm talking about on the show today, 276 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: See You on Sunday, A Cookbook for Family and France, 277 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: is one of the best books recipe books I've ever read. 278 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: And I've been involved with television and radio since two thousands, 279 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: so we're talking to roughly twenty years of reading books 280 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: and interviewing the chefs, booking chefs, booking the author's of 281 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: cookbooks and recipe books. This is by far as the 282 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: basebook I've ever read. See You on Sunday, A Cookbook 283 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: for Family and Friends. When I say that to you, 284 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: saying what runs through your mind, I'm just so thankful. 285 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm so thankful to you for saying that. I'm so 286 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: thankful for the twenty years I put into learning how 287 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: to write about food and learning how to report about food. 288 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: All I ever wanted to do is communicate um that 289 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: that cooking could make your life better and make other 290 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: people's lives better, that it's a kind of service, a 291 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: former service that matters, and to here reflected in your joy, 292 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: Uh overjoyed, I'm overjoyed. Well, i'nna take you. I'letna tell 293 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: you some when you when you when you sit down 294 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: to cook and think about it, because you know, food 295 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: is important to you and that's that's and you can't 296 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: live without it. That's gonna be real. And so so 297 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: what what started you on that journey? Who pointed you 298 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: in the direction that of this this passion that you have. Now, Well, 299 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: it's interesting. I grew up in New York City. In 300 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: New York City is a great food town, so you know, 301 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: in a remarkably diverse restaurant scene, and you can't as 302 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: a kid, you're eating everything from you know, you're eating 303 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: slices of pizza and Chinese food. And there's some Sri 304 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: Lankan place because there's a kid in your third grade 305 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: class who parents running eat there. And I mean it's 306 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: just crazy. But so that's those are the kind of 307 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: table steaks of being a New York kid. But when 308 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: I got to college, I needed to make money, uh, 309 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: And I had a roommate who was a bartender at 310 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: a fancy restaurant out in town. And the waitresses in 311 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: this fancy restaurant were beautiful, and I thought, I got 312 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: to try and get a job in there. And I 313 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: got a job as the cash er, and the cashier 314 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: also pulled coffee for the customers and for the kitchen staff. 315 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: And these guys would come out of the kitchen and 316 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: their whites and bandanas and sweaty with their knives, and 317 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: I'd make them these giant coffee drinks, and I was like, 318 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,239 Speaker 1: those guys are cool. I want to try that. And 319 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: so I went to the chef and I asked if 320 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: I could work in the kitchen, and he gave me 321 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: a job as a as a prep cook. And I 322 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: worked my way up over the course of my college 323 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: career to do a pretty good job as a line 324 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: cook there. Um. And I always knew I wanted to 325 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: be a journalist, but all of a sudden I had 326 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: another trade, another adrenalized trade, um, and I loved it 327 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: and the combination of my desire to be a journalist 328 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: and my love of my time in the kitchen yielded 329 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: a pretty good career. And my friend, here's the beauty 330 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: of this, the whole conversation that we have it. I'm 331 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: just gonna tell you why this book excited me. Okay, 332 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: because I'm a Southern boar. I have lived in New York, 333 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: I have lived in Chicago. I may live years in 334 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: New York. I lived in the Upper east Side, and 335 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: then I lived in thirty thirty nine and first and 336 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: so I was, you know, all overhaul. I'm not eating 337 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. And I lived in Chicago for four years. 338 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: I lived in Los Angeles for fifteen years. I lived 339 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: I live currently in Atlanta since two thousand and seven. 340 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: And I was born and raised in Houston, Texas. So 341 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy. And then and also as 342 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: a stand up comedian, I traveled all over this country 343 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: telling Joe, So I've eaten all over this country. And 344 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: so when I get this book, I get that, I 345 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: get I get my my life experience of eating. I'm 346 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: tell you why, y'all. Okay, he is Delaware fried chicken 347 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: in there. Okay, Because as I go through this men, 348 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: you check it. I'm trying to figure out who am 349 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: I talking to? Am I talking to black guy? Am 350 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: I talking to my momm I talk to a white guy? 351 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: You know? Then he goes to the best glaze ham. 352 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: Then he goes to barbecue brisket. Then he goes to 353 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: corn bread. But check how he makes his corn bread 354 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: though flour and corn meal. I know I'm gonna get 355 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: in trouble for that with some of your listeners. Flower 356 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. You know, I'm making that saying, 357 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: you know, it's no way I don't make that. That 358 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: right there, and then he then he falls it up 359 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: with corn pudding. That's a good one. If that's not 360 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: enough gumbo, then this was this was through me. This 361 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: was through me. Jamaican hockstails do. That's so that's a 362 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: classic of New York. That is a classic. So can 363 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: I tell you about that? Please tell me, because I'm 364 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: going like, Okay, who am I going to interview tomorrow? 365 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: Five to ten people. I'm gonna you tomorrow. You're just interviewing. 366 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: I've been listen. I was the national news editor of 367 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: the New York Times. It's not telling jokes but it 368 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: does get you around the country. So I've eaten all 369 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: over this great land, but I come back again and 370 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: again to New York City and the diversity that it offers. 371 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: There is a small family owned Jamaican restaurant business here 372 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: in New York called Golden Crust. They make patties exactly, 373 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: but they have a couple of actual retail restaurants, and 374 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: I've been going to one or two of them for 375 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: most of my adult life. And I'm a very polite person, 376 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: and I go in and I was, but there have 377 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: been times when when the road has been difficult, and 378 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: I've been a little let's say, not wealthy, but broke, 379 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: and I couldn't go for a full platter of rice 380 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 1: and peas um ox hill in the cabinet, right. So 381 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: I would ask for rice and peas, and then I 382 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: would say, could I have some oxtail gravy on that? 383 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: And these women would look at me like, what is 384 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: this like? And then they would give it to me 385 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: and it was delicious. Anyway. I eventually became, you know, 386 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: a reporter at the New York Times, and I was 387 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: able to get through to the family and tell them 388 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: this story and asked them if they could share with me, uh, 389 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: their recipe for for oxtail stew, which they did extremely reluctantly, 390 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: um and with very good reason. And I worked on 391 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: it and worked on it, worked on it, and that 392 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: I'm very proud of that recipe. That's a damn good oxtail. Okay. 393 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: Now I'm not through everybody. I'm not through, because he 394 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: hidden he's hitting more home runs with your ball here rash. 395 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: Then he goes into crab cake, which I love. But 396 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: this is what got me because I've always wanted to 397 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: know how to make rosutto. Oh yeah, rasuto. Okay, did 398 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: you just hear what I just said? Barbecue, fried chicken, 399 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: corn bread, corn putting, gumbo, Jamaican oxstair, crab cakes, rizzuto, 400 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: all in the same book here, All very simple, already 401 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: very easy to read. And believe that you can do it. 402 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: That's that's what I love about your book. When I 403 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: when I look at the recipe, I believe I can 404 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: accomplish that. You can't accomplish that, and that's important. And 405 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: then I'm not through everybody. I'm not through. Then he 406 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: goes to college greens Ham Hocks are Turkey. Then he 407 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: goes to pizza. Then he goes to smothered pork chops. 408 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: Oh good. Then he goes to the dessert section where 409 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: I fall in love with him for real fruit cobbler, 410 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: peach pie, banana foster. And then this one I knew 411 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: he was the real deal. This one, I'm gonna tell 412 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: everybody this is what I knew, Sam Sifting was the 413 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: real deal. Baked banana putting. Oh, that's the delicious. That's 414 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: really you should make that to nice. They saying, if 415 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get your number, I'm gonna send you photos 416 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: and you know who you're talking to. This is what 417 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: I do, my brother, this is what I do. Okay, 418 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: we are we are friends. And I'm going to promote 419 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: you because not only because you're you're you're good people, 420 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: but you got a book that will relax a lot 421 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: of people and invite them into the kitchen to do 422 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: something they may have been reluctant to do. Cook want. 423 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: That's all we want, Thank you, thank you. Wow. It 424 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: just it just and then he has and then he 425 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: has broken up in the chapter like Big Meet Chapter three, 426 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: Rights is chapter five, you know, so he kind of 427 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: he has fun with it, you know, Big Pops, So 428 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: this is These are the titles of the chapters. So 429 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: they're fun chapters, easy to read chapters, great beautiful photos 430 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: that he has laid throughout the book. It's not over, 431 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: it's not it's not crushed with photos. But there's not photos. 432 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: Let you know, this is how this may look because 433 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: some books do that. They have so many photos. You go, Okay, 434 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: what am I too much? Too much? Too much? What 435 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: am I doing? When I'm doing? What am I doing? So? Sam? 436 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: What we started in the beginning of talking about the book. 437 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: You've heard me interview you. Now you know I'm a fan. 438 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: You know I'm telling the world that this is one 439 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: stop shopping book right here. Okay, this is? This is it? 440 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: What do you want the person who buys this book 441 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: to walk away from this? I want them to walk 442 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: away with a sense of confidence that they're going to 443 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: be able to make their lives better and make the 444 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: lives of those they serve better simply by cooking simple 445 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: food filled with their love and my instruction. Uh. And 446 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: then they do that enough times, those recipes become theirs, 447 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: and they become something to pass on to others. And 448 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: that's how uh, you know, we keep eating for our chicken. 449 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: That's how we keep making peach five. But we're passing 450 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: down these recipes from from friend to friend, from generation 451 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: to generation, and here in the presence of this book, 452 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: I think we're doing so in UH in a way 453 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: that intentionally makes lives better. That's what I want, and 454 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: you're you're delivering it again. UH an exceptional book to read, 455 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: a fun book to UH cook out of, to bake 456 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: out of. The recipes are amazingly. Every once in a while, 457 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, you might get an extended one, but overall, 458 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: even the extended ones, you know, I enjoyed reading. I 459 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: realized that I can pull that off because it's such 460 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: a confidence I would tell you this, Sam, this book 461 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: is a very confident, confidence building book. If you're walking 462 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: into the kitchen for the for you know several times 463 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: and wanted to do that like barbecue pork real, you 464 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: need to stop, man, you need to stop. You really 465 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: need to stop. Sailf don't just flipping through. I didn't. 466 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: I missed that one. Grill baby back reels, you know, teasers, brisket, 467 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: which is not you missed with my country textas Bobby 468 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: qu bobbecue lega lamb, you know, steak in Guinness stew, 469 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: Rice and Beans. Read Rice peel Off. This is this book. 470 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: This is the amazing seen book, Cuban Style black Beans, 471 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: Beautiful books. Saying thank you for coming on my show, 472 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: my man, thank you very much for having me. Appreciate it. 473 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: If you want to hear more episodes of Money Making Conversation, 474 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: go to Money Making Conversation dot com. I'm Rashan McDonald. 475 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm your host. 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