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Speaker 1: So the Eagles, Chiefs, and Packers all at plus fourteen hundred,

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Speaker 1: and the Rams over under went from ten and a

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Speaker 1: the trade for defensive back Trent mcduffe. This was a

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Speaker 1: great move I think by both teams. The Rams looked

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Speaker 1: a win now mode, and why not you have an

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Speaker 2: Got to take him.

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Speaker 1: And this is going to help out immensely with that

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Speaker 1: But elite corners are rarely available. But you're chasing a

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Speaker 1: and you still have the Niners twice a year as well.

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Speaker 1: But McDuffie's going to change the game for them. He's

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Speaker 1: the top, I like what they did. They want to

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Speaker 1: stay on top of that mountain. But looking back at

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Speaker 1: Then you had Week sixteen Sam Darnold, he goes for

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Speaker 1: it will come down to this, it's still Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 1: If Matthew Stafford is able to stay upright for seventeen weeks,

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Speaker 1: Rams are the team to beat. I thought they were

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Speaker 1: Kansas City is getting rid of a twenty five year

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Speaker 1: But the Rams looking at this and saying, maybe we

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Speaker 1: get it again. And they certainly went out and did that.

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Speaker 1: The fact that they're going from ten and a half

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Speaker 1: But we'll talk some football. Your phone calls always welcome.

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Speaker 1: Come up with a pole question as well. We have

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Speaker 1: World Baseball Well it is called the World Baseball Classic

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Speaker 1: and USA versus Brazil on Friday. Plan Accordingly, Lou Holtz

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Speaker 1: age eighty nine. And if you weren't around when he

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Speaker 1: And I don't think he's in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: I you know, maybe check that, Paul.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Lou Holtz is in the college

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Speaker 2: But somebody was talking about that to me yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Now that's the basketball Hall of Fame. But for Lou Holtz,

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Speaker 2: Rhys Davis.

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Speaker 1: Reese tells a great story he played with Lou Holtz

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Speaker 1: think when he was at South Carolina, part of his

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Speaker 2: Mark May? But that was Lou.

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Speaker 1: He was always one step ahead, and age of eighty nine,

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Speaker 1: he lived a very very eventful life.

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Speaker 2: Seeton.

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Speaker 4: Let's poll question today. We got two of them here.

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Speaker 4: We might as well start with the Lou Holtz bole question.

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Speaker 4: One of his most famous quotes, Dan, that you love

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Speaker 4: is they put their pants on the same way that

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Speaker 4: we do.

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Speaker 5: Yah.

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Speaker 4: So it got me to thinking, when you are putting

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Speaker 4: your pants on left leg first, right leg first, were

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Speaker 4: you not sure? I want to see if we all

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: This was Lou's, you know, famous quote that he would

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Speaker 1: say to his players just to make it, you know, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we can go out and beat these guys.

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Speaker 4: So are you a left leg first or a right

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Speaker 2: I'm left leg?

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Speaker 4: Say I'm right leg and my right leg always goes

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Speaker 4: in first.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I go left.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a two and jump guy. I put both

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Speaker 3: I think you learned that when you were four. If

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Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken too, probably I do the edge of

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Speaker 3: the bed two feet in, pull, jump and jump. Snaps.

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Speaker 3: You kids out there, don't try it without parental supervision.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and a snack. I wouldn't jump.

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Speaker 3: I used to be a left leg, right leg because

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Speaker 3: right leg left leg you're a maniac.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd be nervous though. Degree of difficulty, yes, Todd.

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Speaker 7: I wonder how many people like me anyway? Me to

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Speaker 7: position to put their pants down says a lot about

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Speaker 5: Put your pants on?

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Speaker 2: How old are you?

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Speaker 5: I am fifty six?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 4: And you have to be seated to put your pants on.

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Speaker 7: I prefer it's more comfortable to be in a sitting

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Speaker 7: or just have some kind of foulkrum to help me

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Speaker 2: Diould you say.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go out on a limb and say,

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Speaker 1: that's the first time folkrum has ever been used on

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Speaker 1: You even know if.

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Speaker 7: I'm using it right, But it just sounds like a

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Speaker 3: Fukrum is a pivot point or hinge.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 7: For me, just you know, just standing up and putting

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Speaker 7: I like to kind of I need something to kind

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Speaker 2: How about you, Marvin.

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Speaker 4: Right leg, left leg?

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Speaker 4: And jump and Todd needs a full This is this

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Speaker 4: is producing way more than I could have ever.

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Speaker 3: I just propped up a little bit for the putting

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Speaker 3: on the I like to live on the edge.

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Speaker 6: Ye.

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Speaker 4: Here's one from uh here it's one switching up topics

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Speaker 4: a little bit. Here's one from Todd that's funny. This

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Speaker 4: is the Miles Garrett pole question. How many speeding tickets

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Speaker 4: would you need to get in less than ten years

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Speaker 4: to start slowing down? Three, five, seven, or at least nine.

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Speaker 1: So he has nine speeding tickets in the last since

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: I believe.

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Speaker 1: So how do you keep your license? I know you

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Speaker 1: just pay a fine, but don't you get points? Don't

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Speaker 1: they don't you accumulate enough points that you get your

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Speaker 2: At least he's.

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Speaker 7: Not in the public eye where no one's gonna find

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Speaker 7: out about it. Can just kind of like live under.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: I wonder how bad of a speeding ticket it has

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Speaker 4: He was clocked going ninety four in a seventy. That's excessive.

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Speaker 1: He was clocked going one hundred in a sixty.

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Speaker 4: That is excessive.

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Speaker 1: Uh, let's see reckless.

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Speaker 3: You might say he's a Miles Garrett speeders.

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Speaker 1: Miles per hour yeah, uh, sixty five in a forty five.

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Speaker 4: That's too fast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but don't you get points against you and your

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Speaker 4: What do you think his insurance is. It's got to

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Speaker 2: I hope he's bundling with liberty mutual.

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Speaker 3: Yes, reach out to him.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 7: What is the motivation you think for excessive speeding? You

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Speaker 7: You like to feel How about you tell me no, No,

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Speaker 7: I don't really speed much. I'm the one that gets

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so what are my options here?

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Speaker 7: It's very cool to go fast. I like how it

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Speaker 1: I don't know what his motivation is. I've never gotten

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Speaker 3: No, Yeah, Paul I think with someone like Miles Garrett

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Speaker 1: And Shadoor Sanders maybe it's something about the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 7: Yes, if you're not showing off, then what kid you

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Speaker 2: Okay, I dare you to pull me over on Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 7: You would, yeah, only because you're putting other people's lives

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Speaker 1: Well those are you know when you go a hundie

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Speaker 1: I thought that that counted as points, and if you

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Speaker 3: So apparently, but if you get caught speeding it off,

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Speaker 3: It's in the fine print.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they still they give him a ticket. It's

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Speaker 4: You don't want to get a speeding ticket where they're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: But forty miles an hour over the speed limit excessive.

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Speaker 1: Mike Silver has an article. He is a senior national

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Speaker 1: writer for the Athletic and this has to do with

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby and Max's future. Max was not happy when

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Speaker 1: but he did want to play. In those last two games,

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Speaker 1: They wanted to make sure they got Fernando Mendoza. Well,

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Speaker 1: you again. If you were going to sum up the

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Speaker 6: I'll do it even quicker. They're a mess and Dan

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Speaker 6: that's usually the case when a team goes four and

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Speaker 6: But yeah, in this case, they don't have a lot

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Speaker 6: it doesn't make sense to think about trading Max Crosby.

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Speaker 6: They're asking for a Mica Parsons like Hall. I think

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Speaker 2: Okay, give me the teams at the front of the

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm not exactly sure which teams. My colleague

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Speaker 1: And the Raiders are set on Mendoza correct, no matter yes,

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Speaker 6: they fired Pete Carroll, Mark Davis issued a statement and

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Speaker 6: said general manager John Spytek will lead this search in

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Speaker 6: all football operations with Tom Brady. So you know, you've

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Speaker 6: got a first time general manager in Spytek who's's working hard,

445
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Speaker 6: trying to do a tough job. But it's you know,

446
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Speaker 6: Mark Davis came out and said Tom Brady's doing it too.

447
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Speaker 6: So again, on paper, that's exciting Tom Brady. You know,

448
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Speaker 6: I've seen him defy odds and galvanize people around him

449
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Speaker 6: in a way that is mind boggling. And you know,

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Speaker 6: I think it's just hard in the NFL for us,

451
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Speaker 6: you know, watching this from the outside to think, you know,

452
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Speaker 6: someone could do that from afar. And I can't tell

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Speaker 6: Tom Brady how to live his life. He's getting paid

454
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Speaker 6: a lot of money to be a broadcaster. He's a father,

455
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Speaker 6: he's you know, got a residence across the country. But

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Speaker 6: you know, I think what's hard for people in that

457
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Speaker 6: building is when somebody is going around kind of acting like, hey,

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Speaker 6: I'm the pipeline to Tom, but doesn't have those credentials

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Speaker 6: on the football side. That's that's kind of a recipe

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Speaker 6: for confusion.

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Speaker 1: He's Michael Silver, senior national writer for The Athletic. Before

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Speaker 1: I let you go, I was always wondering about this.

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Speaker 1: It felt like Brady was a mentor to Shodoor Sanders,

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Speaker 1: that Dion had asked Tom to kind of help Shadoor,

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Speaker 1: and then Tom's in a position to draft shoeddor Sanders

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Speaker 1: on a team that needed a quarterback or maybe develop

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, and they didn't. They passed over Shador, you know,

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Speaker 1: every single round there. It just seemed strange that Tom

469
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Speaker 1: knew Shador, He's in a position to draft Shedoor and

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Speaker 1: didn't pull the trigger on that.

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Speaker 6: Why Well, you know that goes back to the is

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Speaker 6: Tom all in or is Tom not all in? If

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Speaker 6: I recall Tom's comment after or didn't get drafted was

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Speaker 6: kind of like, you know, I'm not in charge of

475
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Speaker 6: that and so you know again, and that may be

476
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Speaker 6: true and well meaning, right Tom at the time might

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Speaker 6: have been like, hey, look, I'm not going to come

478
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Speaker 6: in and try to be the overlord of this organization.

479
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Speaker 6: I'm going to let John Spidek and Pete Carroll and

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Speaker 6: my football people do what they think is best. You know,

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Speaker 6: Now it seems to be more blatant. Mark Davis is

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Speaker 6: coming out and saying it, so you kind of have

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Speaker 6: to own it. But yeah, I think Dan, that goes

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Speaker 6: back to everything that we're talking about. Is Tom Brady

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Speaker 6: actually all in? Is he running it? What message are

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Speaker 6: people inside the building getting about the power structure and

487
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Speaker 6: the vision and how it's playing out. So it's probably

488
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Speaker 6: a positive development that Mark Davis tried to spell it

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Speaker 6: out and that, you know, and that they have a

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Speaker 6: coach who they in serry can try to build something

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Speaker 6: with it. I love Pete Carroll. He's literally one of

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Speaker 6: the greatest coaches of his generation. I think he's a

493
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Speaker 6: Hall of Fame. So I don't want to in any

494
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Speaker 6: way say that hiring Pete Carroll, you know, was a negative,

495
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Speaker 6: but it kind of flew in the face of what

496
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Speaker 6: their situation was given his age and his desire to

497
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Speaker 6: win immediately, and it obviously didn't work.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff is always, Mike, good to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. Thank you, dem That's Michael Silver.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: listen live. Let me start with Aaron Rodgers appearance on

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Speaker 1: Pat McAfee yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: If he hello, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: No, we don't know. No, no, no, no, do.

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Speaker 9: A little four play with me. You just spent a

509
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Speaker 9: week in Panama together. I got no love I did.

510
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Speaker 9: I did four play in Panama with you, you and

511
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Speaker 9: your lovely wife.

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Speaker 5: Hey, I haven't went to a church with you guys

513
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Speaker 5: in Panama for Fresh Wednesday. I'm a Jewish joy.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: Well, we were going to dinner and it was ash

516
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Speaker 1: Wednesday and my wife was like, I gotta go get

517
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Speaker 1: my ashes, and all of a sudden we dragged Jay

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Speaker 1: into the church.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, I volunteer.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't learn.

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Speaker 5: I want to learn.

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Speaker 1: So we go in and then you know, I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: you're going to walk up and get your ashes and

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Speaker 1: I go, I don't think you should do that, Jay, I.

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Speaker 5: Don't think so.

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Speaker 8: It doesn't matter how many different religion like you know,

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Speaker 8: temple's church, mosques I go to.

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Speaker 5: There's not enough time to you know, atone for my sins. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I didn't want to bother them with that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so great to see you, Jay, Funny.

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Speaker 5: There we go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, feeling great, feeling feeling great.

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Speaker 5: I got my shoulder again this time, Man, I feel fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, really, how about you stop fighting people?

535
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 5: Why would I do that?

536
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. You're getting older and your body

537
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: is gonna I mean you.

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Speaker 5: Now, you're age shaming me.

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Speaker 6: That's what.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: People always ask me like why do I still do

542
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Speaker 5: this stuff? I'd rather that kill me that I die

543
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Speaker 5: from not doing it, Like I gotta do it.

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Speaker 8: I just it's the you know, always talking about I

545
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Speaker 8: need teams and teams, and for year between my ears,

546
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 8: these teams and I just, man, I love having those teams,

547
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 8: whether it's training players or I have a may guys.

548
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 8: My old guys were getting older now, so we're being

549
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 8: a little smarter with what we do in our heads.

550
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 8: But just trading players, you know, the guy I really

551
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 8: took on this year full time, if you will, was

552
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 8: Aj Barner, who did a great job obviously with Seattle.

553
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 8: But you don't find guys like that as much anymore.

554
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 8: Like players are different now than they used to be

555
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 8: when I was trained. You know so many guys in

556
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Speaker 8: the offseason, and you always tell these guys that being

557
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 8: famous ain't the same as being great. And a lot

558
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 8: of these guys is come in now because they're so famous,

559
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Speaker 8: they don't have a need to be great. They don't

560
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Speaker 8: put that same work in Aj did Aj Man. He

561
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Speaker 8: just even came out during the bye week for a

562
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Speaker 8: little two no, which guys normally don't do. But I

563
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Speaker 8: just I love to do if I can help make

564
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Speaker 8: somebody better, You know that that helps me again, hear him.

565
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Speaker 1: That's why give me the current NFL player who you

566
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: think could be great in UFC oh Miles Garrett.

567
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Speaker 8: I tried to brownse like a month my mouth put

568
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Speaker 8: his hands on me. That's that was terrible bad, That

569
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 8: was awful. About Mercedes Lewis, if he still qualifies here,

570
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Speaker 8: I've had him for about seventeen years. Mercedes throws kicks

571
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Speaker 8: and you know everything, He's like really a student of it.

572
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Speaker 8: I've always said, like, he's not current, but Kyle Long

573
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Speaker 8: was a He's you know, if I didn't ever wrestle

574
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Speaker 8: Kyle Long, I would be at least five to seven

575
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Speaker 8: and a half now. But I'm trying to think current

576
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Speaker 8: guys who just feel really violent. Yeah, there's not a

577
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Speaker 8: Oh Max Crawsby Max actually legitimate. He legitimately trains.

578
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Speaker 2: By the way, see here is he's done with the Raiders.

579
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Speaker 8: I don't see him going back, but you know it's

580
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 8: up to the Raiders. Yeah, they're the ones who hold

581
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 8: the cards in this right now.

582
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 2: But he could, I guess he could retire and force

583
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Speaker 2: their hand.

584
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Speaker 8: Yeah he can. But you know, he loves football. He's

585
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 8: you know, it was interesting we when I talk about guys,

586
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 8: you know, want to be great and you know, trying

587
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Speaker 8: to be great instead famous. When he came out to

588
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Speaker 8: my gym to train, uh, he was like, I said,

589
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Speaker 8: we're starting five forty five, right, and I'm like five

590
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Speaker 8: forty five in the morning.

591
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Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, that's what's time I started.

592
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Speaker 8: I'm like, hey, dude, I'm I come at eleven okay,

593
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Speaker 8: I said, where we go to eleven?

594
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Speaker 5: Five forty five. He's like, well, I started five forty five,

595
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Speaker 5: and sure enough, five forty five every day goes in their.

596
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Speaker 8: Trains and he does you know, prehab and you know,

597
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 8: stretching and mobility and speed and agility and lists, and

598
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 8: then we do the m MA and then after that

599
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 8: he does a little bit more strength to say, and

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Speaker 8: then more hips and then rehab and you know all

601
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Speaker 8: this treatment stuff.

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Speaker 5: And it was every day.

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Speaker 8: Man, it's like five point forty five in the morning

604
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Speaker 8: till like two or three. And that's where that's where

605
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 8: you look for Like all the guys that we were

606
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 8: friends with from back in the day, that's the only

607
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 8: way they got famous.

608
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 5: To be great.

609
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 8: The only way to be great back then is to

610
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 8: work the world. I tell I tell these guys the

611
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 8: blueprints for greatness. It's not hard find who the best

612
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 8: is and do more than them. Well, most people just

613
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 8: aren't willing to do it. I haven't asked him, how

614
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 8: many of your guys like do this?

615
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 5: But he's like, oh, I.

616
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Speaker 8: Offer to everybody, but they don't. And that's like today's athlete,

617
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Speaker 8: that's not how they're wired. But all the great ones,

618
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Speaker 8: that's how they're wired, right, And it's it I just

619
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Speaker 8: never got it. I never understood if that's where you

620
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Speaker 8: have to do, just put in more work. You don't

621
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Speaker 8: necessarily have to be more talented. Why don't you? And

622
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Speaker 8: it's like if you if you have a full and

623
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Speaker 8: a fun career, you're retired thirty two, think about that,

624
00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 8: Dan and people years thirty two, Right, it's young, go

625
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 8: out there and do whatever you want after that.

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00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 5: Thirty four it's young. I just never got it.

627
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Speaker 1: Do you think Micah Parsons wants to be famous more

628
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Speaker 1: than he wants to be great?

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Speaker 8: No, I think it's but I think that's today's athlete.

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00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 8: I definitely think he wants to be great. But yeah,

631
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Speaker 8: I think without a doubt, like me, have podcasts and

632
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Speaker 8: you know, with your own teammates right about your your

633
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 8: team and stuff during the season, things like that.

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Speaker 5: Look, I was around Stray and who.

635
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 8: Would be like the first of these guys and you

636
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 8: know he drove me back in New York City every

637
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 8: day when I was too broke to you know, be

638
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Speaker 8: able to pay for it subway and bus fare back

639
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 8: and forth. And football was always first, first, first by

640
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Speaker 8: a mile. He sit the other stuff in when it

641
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 8: when it was okay with it, but football was for

642
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 8: He did so much filmwork and so much work and

643
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 8: and like extra work, extra work, extra work, and everybody thought.

644
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Speaker 5: Of the other way. It was never the other way.

645
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Speaker 5: I don't think it's the other way from Mikey either,

646
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 5: but just seems so much bigger, could have all the

647
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 5: other stuff he does.

648
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Speaker 1: All right, let's run down some of these situations. Aaron Rodgers,

649
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers.

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Speaker 8: I don't think he's there yet here and I haven't

651
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 8: talked to him. I saw him on pat yesterday. I

652
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 8: haven't talked for for a while. You know, we trained

653
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 8: together the last offseason, so I don't know where his

654
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 8: mindset is. I do love what he said about Mike,

655
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 8: and he's brought like Mike is uh McCarthy.

656
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Speaker 5: Is uh man.

657
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Speaker 8: I told him at the combine, I said, for you

658
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Speaker 8: to coach the Packers, Cowboys and now the Steelers, your

659
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Speaker 8: home town team, and like his parents are right there

660
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 8: in front, like the front row, and he's like, I

661
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 8: couldn't get past like three words without crying, like he

662
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 8: grew up right around the corner. I said, so you

663
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 8: coached these three teams, Mike, I don't know who you

664
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 8: were in a previous life.

665
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 5: But God has blessed you. I think you're like.

666
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 8: Jonas Sulk and Cure in Polio. Here's your reward. It's unbelievable.

667
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 8: But the fact that he appreciates Mike this much now

668
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 8: was really good to see. Because Mike is great.

669
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Speaker 5: You get to remember.

670
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 8: People forget it was so bad on Aaron when they decided, Okay,

671
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 8: we're not gonna and I was right there through all

672
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 8: this stuff with them when Farv kept retiring and unretired,

673
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 8: retire and unretired, retired and unretired, and finally at the

674
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 8: end they're like, hey, we're going with Aaron. There is

675
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 8: people picketing outside Lambo that they didn't want Aaron there,

676
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 8: this kid, this youngster, and for him to be able

677
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 8: to deal with this and.

678
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 5: Become the guy he became.

679
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 8: That's why Jordan Love also has much stronger mental health,

680
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 8: and anybody gives them credit for he to be able

681
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 8: to deal with that to replace Aaron.

682
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 5: But man, Aaron, they were picking their flying helicopters and

683
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 5: planes over and look at the year he had that

684
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 5: year and the career after that.

685
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 8: And that's because Mike really is a He's great with

686
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 8: developing guys like that. But he do with him what

687
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 8: he do with Dak and whoever he's gonna be able

688
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 8: to develop over there in Pittsburgh. I don't know who

689
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 8: that is right now. I know they're like Will Howard,

690
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 8: but I don't know if that's their long term He's

691
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 8: not really he hasn't been around him enough to really

692
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 8: know that. But I think if Aaron wants to come

693
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 8: back and play another year, I'm sure they're welcome, welcome

694
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 8: with open arms. And I know Pittsburgh liked him a

695
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 8: lot they did.

696
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 5: What about the organization?

697
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: What about Kyler Murray? Where does he land? Where should

698
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: he land?

699
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 5: Well?

700
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 8: He and Tua should say, okay, I want to go

701
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 8: and try and learn from Kyle Shannhan, Carol O'Connell, Sean McVay,

702
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 8: Matt laflore, one of these guys, and Andy Reid and

703
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 8: Sean Bayton.

704
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 5: But I don't see that there's not a lot of

705
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 5: quarterback developers.

706
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 8: But you know, I was talking to you know, Kyle

707
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 8: Shannan this year and Kevin O'Connell kind of had the

708
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 8: same thing when we're talking about how you take these

709
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 8: guys and reprogram the mac Jones of the world.

710
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 5: Of Daniel Jones.

711
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 8: And you know, I remember Shannan saying to me, for

712
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 8: these guys, you just got to get them.

713
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 5: They're so beat up.

714
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 8: You got to get them to play unafraid and if

715
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 8: you could start doing that, give him a cap. So

716
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 8: it's basically like, I want them play fast, but at

717
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 8: the same time, I want them to play fearless.

718
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 5: That's what's fearless.

719
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 8: If you get them to be fearless again, then they're

720
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 8: God given talent, which made them a top ten pick

721
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 8: starts coming back out, but they're so beat up they're

722
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 8: afraid to go do it. They're afraid of pull the trigger.

723
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 8: He said, that's the number one thing first. But also

724
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 8: like Lafloor, what do he did with Malik Willis with

725
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 8: his footwork phenomenal?

726
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 5: You know what a lot of these guys over do.

727
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 8: With Kevin O'Connell, what he could do with those guys

728
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 8: technique wise, I would go and learn. So if I'm colored, though, yeah,

729
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 8: i'd go try and get with Kevin O'Connell, like I'm

730
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 8: if I'm a player, I would already be tampering. Here's

731
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 8: the other way around.

732
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: We're talking to Jay Glazer NFL and Fox insider. The

733
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: market for Tua, I don't see.

734
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 8: You know, there's options out there for people right now,

735
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 8: but same thing, I don't know if there's a I

736
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 8: don't think there's a huge market. And part of that

737
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 8: also is, you know, he's a hit away from here,

738
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 8: right so I think if you want to bring somebody in,

739
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 8: it's got to be almost like, hey, who who loves him?

740
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 5: I don't. I haven't anybody say it yet to this point.

741
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 5: I think somebody will bring him in and take a flyer.

742
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 5: But I think Kyler will have a much bigger people go,

743
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 5: you know, after Coler more than they will.

744
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 2: What about Atlanta for Tua?

745
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, what I'm saying, if I'm Atlanta, I'm looking at color.

746
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 8: You know, I think Coyler is you know, he jumps

747
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 8: out ahead of tour right now. And look, I can't

748
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 8: say a lot because I just haven't talked to like

749
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 8: Matt Ronnie and Cunningham and mister Fansky about to it.

750
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 8: But also to again, like, let's say everything works out,

751
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 8: he still you know, hadn't really protected himself much right

752
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 8: appear right when he you know, with concussion.

753
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 5: So let's say things work out right, and all of

754
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 5: a sudden man.

755
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 8: He takes a day in the week seven, then you're

756
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 8: back to square, won't So I think even if you

757
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 8: have to, you got to have somebody else in place there.

758
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: What do you make of the Rams Chiefs trade? You

759
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: don't get too many blockbusters like this in early March.

760
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 6: Yeah.

761
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 8: I would actually with Sean McVay this weekend and he

762
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 8: was telling me about it, and he was like over

763
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 8: the moon, like over the moon about this, and you know,

764
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 8: they trade away a lot for him. But Charlotte is

765
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 8: always the type of guy. And you know what, I'm

766
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 8: surprised about you because he's always the type of guy, like,

767
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 8: you know, I'm going for now and I think more

768
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 8: and more and I was saying, it's surprisingly, I told

769
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 8: him this, surprising more people don't do what he does

770
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 8: because you know what.

771
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 5: You're getting with the Trent mccuffey with these draft picks.

772
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 8: Now, you know, you hear more and more complaints guys

773
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 8: of the combine, people not going on the combine, like

774
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 8: coaches anymore.

775
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 5: So's like, we don't really know whe're getting these guys anymore.

776
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 8: You can't really you know, your interviews, you can't pry

777
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 8: you get such a short period, and everybody's you know, programmed,

778
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 8: and I'm a fault for that too. I had a

779
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 8: bunch of kids this off season told him how to

780
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 8: you know, deal with the combine and how did you

781
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 8: just be honest with teams if you had off field

782
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 8: troubles and just other things, what they're gonna ask for

783
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 8: and everything in your life down He's about team team teams,

784
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 8: but because they're so programmed, you don't really know where

785
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 8: you're getting anymore. And kids don't go through adversities much anymore. Right,

786
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 8: you have a problem from the transfer. That's why, by

787
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 8: the way, Tennessee went right for cam Ward because they

788
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 8: told me even before the combine, that's our guy, because

789
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 8: he'd been through adversity, which we don't find too many

790
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 8: guys like that anymore. So I think, you know, if

791
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 8: you have a proven commodity in the NFL, I would

792
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 8: trade my picks also, And I'm surprised more teams don't

793
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 8: do it because the Rams are in it every single

794
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 8: year and it's a copycat league and nobody really does it.

795
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 8: They still have this old school thing of man, we

796
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 8: got to really reload through the draft. And I get it,

797
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 8: because if you hit then you have, you know, salary

798
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 8: cap relief there for.

799
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 5: A few years at least. But Shaw was man, he

800
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 5: was so over the moon for this was he was

801
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 5: willing to go all in on this.

802
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: Do we know the time frame for Mahomes coming back?

803
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: Will is he expected to start the season.

804
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 8: The rich the initial reports for you know, kind of

805
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 8: on the friends there. But I want to say, Patrick's different.

806
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 8: He's different. So he went down he immediately got the surgery,

807
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 8: flew himself down. I think he flew Provate down there,

808
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 8: got the surgery maybe the next day, which normally they

809
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 8: don't do because you want like the swelling. He got

810
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 8: a board really swelled up right. And so that was

811
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 8: on a Tuesday. I believe it was either Thursday or

812
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 8: Friday that week. He was already in the Chief's training

813
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 8: room Doria and he already had gotten his knee bending

814
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 8: at ninety degrees at that point, which he's just different.

815
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 8: He heals differently. There is a guy you know who

816
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 8: dislocated his knee, chap and his leg. He was turned

817
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 8: around during the game and he was like, hey, literally

818
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 8: he asked, they're training to Rick Burke hole the doctors

819
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 8: is it broken?

820
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 5: No, okay? And taping up. What go back, like, we're

821
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 5: not taping up.

822
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 8: Your knee is facing that way, and they're like, He's like, no,

823
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 8: just tape it, let's go. And like you know, he

824
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 8: he had a dislocated toe going into a Super Bowl

825
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 8: and it fully dislocated and he never took any time

826
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 8: like he just finished finished out the game. His paying

827
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 8: threshold is different, his work ethics different. So well at

828
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 8: first they're like, oh, could you know start of the season.

829
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 8: I think I would probably had done him being well

830
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 8: sooner than that by far, because he just attacks things

831
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 8: man like like Aaron with his you know, his achilles.

832
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 8: And Joe Burrow it was different too. Joe Burrow came

833
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 8: back two months early. That's ridiculous from his injury. That

834
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 8: was that was ridiculous. That's probably one of the that's

835
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 8: one of the craziest things I've seen. I have a

836
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 8: Grade three turf toe and he's done. I come back,

837
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 8: you know as early as he did. I remember we were,

838
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 8: I was, I was in London last time we did

839
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 8: this show. Know, right at the trade deadline that day

840
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 8: he texted me He's come back. I'm like, come on, dude,

841
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 8: what do you you spend your time, Like, dude, edibles

842
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 8: this all season during your reab, there's no way. And

843
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 8: he's like, no, I'm coming back, and I'm coming back

844
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 8: way sooner than people think I'm talking, like in a

845
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 8: couple of weeks.

846
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 5: I'm like, dude, there's no sure enough. You know, he's

847
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 5: just different.

848
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: And I guessed right with Quinn Williams going to the

849
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: Cowboys that day you were on.

850
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 8: Yes, let me tell you this. So it's trade. It's

851
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 8: trade deadline.

852
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 5: Dan and I are talking about our stem cell journey

853
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 5: together because on.

854
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 8: I looked out on my phone and I'm texting and

855
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 8: he's like, what's going on trade? I said, yeah, it's

856
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 8: actually a team asking me about Quentinn Williams and uh,

857
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 8: you know, but they want like a blockbuster for him

858
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 8: and asking about Quinn Williams and he literally said is

859
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 8: the Cowboys? And it was the Cowboy Blase and I

860
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 8: kind of looked up, you know, kind of looked like

861
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 8: that joking a little bit, like oh my god. They're like,

862
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 8: are you you got? Are you you put a virus

863
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 8: of my phone down?

864
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 2: And I'm an insider now I think I are. Yeah

865
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 2: you are.

866
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, just don't don't ask OBJ he called me an outsider.

867
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: He did, yeah, I was right about something and he

868
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 1: I don't think he liked that I was correct about

869
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: something with him and he called me an outsider.

870
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 5: He isn't now sensitive like that. I've had a lot.

871
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 6: Look.

872
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 8: I reported that he was getting traded uh from the

873
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 8: Giants to another team, and I got mercilessly destroyed by

874
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 8: everybody like just and people started going onto Instagram and

875
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 8: like fans, listen, I'm an inside my jobs to report

876
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 8: information that you don't know. You knew it, You've done

877
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 8: my job. So my job is to give you information

878
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 8: you don't know.

879
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 5: And we do it.

880
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 8: Don't get mad in us, okay, or we won't do it.

881
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 8: And I put this out there. People started going onto

882
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 8: different people who I was training, and unbreakable celebrities and

883
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 8: some with drug issues and going on to them saying,

884
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 8: I hope you owe Deeve because you're stupid, you know,

885
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 8: trading partner, and saying Odell's getting traded like it was ridiculous.

886
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 8: Some of that for this Max Crosby won this off season,

887
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 8: people tell me how much I don't know, and attacking

888
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 8: Rosie and get after my wife and saying.

889
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 5: Some racial stuff and just like it's ridiculous.

890
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 8: I got it for within Martindale two years ago, saying

891
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 8: they'd be gone from the Giants, and like Gian fans,

892
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 8: I've been covering this team since ninety three. If I

893
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 8: say something, instead of attacking me, you may want to

894
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 8: go call Draft Cans or Fanuel or something.

895
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't want to be an insider.

896
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't pull stuff out of my butt, and

897
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 5: but that's my job, is to come out of left

898
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 5: field and tell people things they don't know.

899
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Speaker 8: And people get so upset. They got upset with the

900
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 8: Kevin O'Connell thing a couple of years ago that there

901
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 8: were teams looking at trade for him. There were four

902
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 8: teams that are trying to trade it. And then people

903
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 8: got upset that I reported on Sunday. And I'm like,

904
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Speaker 8: I don't work at Foxonville to work for Foxingville Sunday.

905
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Speaker 5: It's the readers are being an insign man. But you

906
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Speaker 5: know what I am. You know what I hold.

907
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Speaker 8: Sticks and stones thing you know don't break your bones,

908
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 8: but words will. I'm the opposite. Sticks and stones won't

909
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Speaker 8: do a thing to me.

910
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Speaker 4: But what.

911
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Speaker 1: I said toitive great to see you, Thanks again a

912
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: man talk to you, so comments you dude?

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Speaker 2: All right, that's Jay Glazier.