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Speaker 1: I am part of the solution of making our voices

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Speaker 1: and their children. Come with me through these episodes to

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Speaker 1: been pushed upon us by the system of capitalism, corruption,

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Speaker 1: and white supremacy. Welcome to the very first episode of

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Speaker 1: Weision House. I am your host, THEO Henderson Unhouse resident

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Speaker 1: of six years in Chinatown, Los Angeles. Many have different

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Speaker 1: bad based on the prejudices and the whisper campaigns about

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Speaker 1: unhoused people who's trying to survive and have a humane

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Speaker 1: and humanity kept during this difficult time. I'm been on

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Speaker 1: to you. There comes a time when people get tired

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Speaker 1: of being pushed out of the glittering sunlight. I'm tired

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Speaker 1: of life's July and left standing amid the piercing shield

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Speaker 1: of an alpine November. I'm standing on the cold front

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Speaker 1: of hatred, vigilanteism, outright violence, and death threats due to knowingly,

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Speaker 1: knowingly vile and evil people knowing that they are trying

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Speaker 1: other unhoused people in laws and we live in the

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Speaker 1: pacing tiptoe stance due to the hatred that is being

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Speaker 1: spread upon by our city leaders, the police officers, and

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Speaker 1: the city councilor board of supervisors by attacking aggressive legislation

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Speaker 1: by using propaganda machines like the La Times. Steve Lopez

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Speaker 1: Hate Page article three part series advocating for law and

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Speaker 1: go unabated. So please continue to join us, then find

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Speaker 1: out just what the truth is about unhoused situation. Our

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Speaker 1: first featured guest is General Dogan. Doctor Martin Luther King

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Speaker 1: would say, the only way you can be rolled is

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Speaker 1: if your back is meant. General Dogan stood up for

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Speaker 1: turned down the the award that Mark Arcaidi had handed him.

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Speaker 1: He stood up and smoke out against the injustice that

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Speaker 1: the LAPD has done, particularly to residents like any Moody

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Speaker 1: said that we need housing for unhoused people. The decency

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Speaker 1: a wake up call to the city to stop their

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Speaker 1: punitive forty one to eighteen and fifty sixt eleven. He

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Speaker 1: took the opportunity to swing long and hard at the

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Speaker 1: hard facts, and they are that there are not enough

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Speaker 1: services for unhoused people such as housing, supporter of services

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Speaker 1: and the issues that humanity and respect that is lacking

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Speaker 1: with the Los Angeles Police Department of the city. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I feel as though we should be given

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Speaker 1: this award to the mayor, right. I feel that, you know,

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Speaker 1: equ Wana came down here and brung the tallest dudes

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Speaker 1: the mariatis Crowney, It's worthless because it's the war. Is

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Speaker 1: this right here's the toilets that you bring in. It's

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Speaker 1: I know, the last sixteen years you've been in leadership

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Speaker 1: I cannot accept it. Right, this ain't this ain't nothing

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Speaker 1: compared to what we've been going through and what we need. Right.

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Speaker 1: We totally laid out in the Dirty Divide what the

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Speaker 1: this Dirty Divide is set aside. Then what we're doing

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Speaker 1: General doga good evening, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome people out there, Welcome, welcome, pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. I met you a few

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Speaker 1: So I have to ask you, how did you get

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Speaker 1: you know, and so the city, you know, started criminalizing people.

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Speaker 1: I wish more citizens had had felt that same fire

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Speaker 1: I would say, having a working knowledge of information, the

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Speaker 1: City of Los Angeles City Council members twenty sixteen, they

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Speaker 1: creating all these anti homeless artnances in fact, they created

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Speaker 1: December twenty third, they passed eighty five point two, which

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Speaker 1: says you cannot sleep in your vehicle. Right. And so

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Speaker 1: I knew from the beginning, right that the city council

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Speaker 1: That if they was going to be working with let's say, developers,

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Speaker 1: And that's been the problem with the homeless crisis. The

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Speaker 1: just like I said, they continue to create these programs

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Speaker 1: You don't want this, right, No, what we don't want

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Speaker 1: we already know a lot of homeless people are not

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Speaker 1: the city saying that you're not welcome on public property neither. Right.

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Speaker 1: You can't sit, you can't sleep, and you can't rest.

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Speaker 1: So where else if there is no place for me

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Speaker 1: to go? The shelters are full, commissions are full. I

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Speaker 1: don't have no housing. You don't have no housing for me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what do I supposed to do? There's nothing left? Right?

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Speaker 1: You got private property and public property. You're saying that

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Speaker 1: I can't rest though, right, so there's nothing left and

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Speaker 1: little backing up, a little history. Three most definitely for me.

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Speaker 1: Forty one eighteen D I would say, is a city artists,

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Speaker 1: they artists, and they own artists, has caused them more heartache,

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Speaker 1: other homeless artists that they have on the books, right.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why Kama said that is because the

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Speaker 1: city is still under federal obligations right now as we speak.

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Speaker 1: For forty one eighteen D. It was a case filed

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and three. It was called Jones versus

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Speaker 1: the City of Los Angeles. It was a Ninth Amendment

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Speaker 1: Federal court violation on the crew to unusual punishment. And

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Speaker 1: basically it was Aclu and Carol Sobo, who's a long

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Speaker 1: So it was mister Jones. Mister Jones was a middle

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Speaker 1: it was a homeless budget one hundred one hundred million dollars,

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Speaker 1: LAPD was getting eighty seven percent. How do you give

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Speaker 1: three questions. The first question I would like to ask

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Speaker 1: whole lot of the work and out of the language

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Speaker 1: that they've been using. The last ten years, we've been

432
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Speaker 1: hearing the same language. Oh, they're all on drugs, right,

433
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: they all lost their mind. They shall they're resistant, they

434
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 1: don't want this, they don't want that. That's all lies,

435
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: that's all manipulations to get people to hate homeless people,

436
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 1: to get people to attack homeless people, to do all that,

437
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: when actually it's the total opposite. Right, people do want housing, right,

438
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: just like the last That's why I like the last

439
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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen loss of Greater Home. Its count with the

440
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: new numbers showed the truth. It showed the truth that

441
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: people is not out of their mind. People is not

442
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Speaker 1: fucking on drugs. But the problem is the rent is

443
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,959
Speaker 1: too damn high. It's always been too high, right, so

444
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: people can't afford to live. Right. So when you got

445
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Speaker 1: a society or the some mean that's outpricing people here

446
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: it is. You got folks that's on disability. They don't

447
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,239
Speaker 1: make no more than seven hundred dollars a month, right,

448
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: what it is supposed to get go get housing from

449
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Speaker 1: in this city? There is no place that you can

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Speaker 1: find housing. So what do you expect people to do? Right?

451
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: I got seven hundred dollars a month, do I go

452
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Speaker 1: to a motel, right, and pay for a week's because

453
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: that's all it's gonna buy. And then I'm stranded with

454
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: nothing to eat, no car, fair, no nothing for the

455
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Speaker 1: rest of the month. Right, Or do I go to

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Speaker 1: Western Surplus and buy me a tenth you know, understand

457
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: me and wait for something to kick in, for my

458
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: housing number to come up, for me to kick in.

459
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: Because you got to understand that it's fifty eight thousand

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Speaker 1: people that's homeless city and county wide, and that's by

461
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Speaker 1: they numbers. We say put a one in front of that,

462
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: because it's over one hundred and fifty not two hundred

463
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: thousand people that's homeless throughout the city in County Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: The Economic Roundtable estimate that the city is gonna need

465
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Speaker 1: five hundred and fifty thousand units of permit support housing

466
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Speaker 1: to get out of this housing this current housing crisis.

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Speaker 1: You touch on a good point. And one of the

468
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Speaker 1: points I want to ask is what about when you

469
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: hear people say, if it's so expensive here, why don't

470
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Speaker 1: you leave? When you look at the homeless crisis in

471
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, a lot of people see all the tents,

472
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Speaker 1: they think, oh, these are people that got off the

473
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Speaker 1: grand Hound bus from Nebraska, you know, holding a pigeon

474
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 1: cage and you know with overalls on. No, these homeless

475
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: people in Los Angeles, in the county and aroundabout is

476
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: not from Alaska. They're not from the Moon, They're not

477
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: from Iowa. They from south central Compton, watching the valley. Right.

478
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: These are people who lost their job. These are people

479
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: who they was living with somebody else. Something happened. These

480
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: are people who had tragedies in their life. Various different

481
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: things happen where people end up on skill row and

482
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: end up homeless. Right. And so me, myself and other

483
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: people I had for years, I have lived a check away.

484
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, me for being homeless, right.

485
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: And so I mean, just like I was saying, the

486
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: rent is too high, people can't afford the rents. The

487
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: rent is supposed to be thirty percent of your income, right,

488
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: two thousand dollars for a one bedroom or two bedroom.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's not at my rent level.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I mean, I can't afford that, right.

491
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Speaker 1: And just like the new count says seven hundred and

492
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Speaker 1: twenty one thousand households are rent burdens. And are check

493
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: away from being homeless, right, And so I mean when

494
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: you got those type of numbers, right, and it ain't

495
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: just one or two people, It ain't just you know,

496
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: five or six people, you know what I saying. It

497
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: ain't the fifty eight thousand people are just homeless, right,

498
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: It's the seven hundred and twenty one thousand families right.

499
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: That's across the damn city in county. That's a check

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Speaker 1: away from being on a tent on skill up. And

501
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: that's the bottom line. The rent is too damn high.

502
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: That is an excellent point to cut off. I don't

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Speaker 1: mean to whole help your time. I wanted to thank

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Speaker 1: you very much because you have touched on a lot

505
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Speaker 1: of the things that I felt we needed to talk

506
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: about the myths of being housed. I've covered it so

507
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: many times, even from my own friends. Thank you again.

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Speaker 1: This is CEO Henderson with General Dogan from Chinatown Street Watch.

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Speaker 1: If you want to read a book that hasn't been written,

510
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: then you must be the one to write it. Serah

511
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: Chism is an aspiring writer. She's currently writing her second

512
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: short story anthology in her series. She also has a

513
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: wealth of experience dealing with unhoused friends and neighbors and

514
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: how to be an ally to unhoused people. Let us

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Speaker 1: welcome Serra Chism. I'm your host, Theo Henderson, and I'm

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00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: in the studio today with a writer and by the

517
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: name of Serrachism. She has three stories that are posted

518
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: in a couple of anthology books and she's currently working

519
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: on another. So without her ado, let's welcome her to

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Speaker 1: our show. Good, Hello, Hello, how are you guys today.

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Speaker 1: As you know, our show talks about a variety of issues.

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Speaker 1: Primarily is the central focus is on unhoused people and

523
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: the challenges that you see and if they deal with

524
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: from a tangential point or from an a external point.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell us what is your impressions of unhoused people.

526
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: Everybody is an individual. Everybody is different. They're in different

527
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: circumstances for different reasons, and we have to look at

528
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: them in that way. We have to look at everybody

529
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: pretty much basically on the same level. You can't assert

530
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: a certain opinion about somebody just because they're unhoused. So

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Speaker 1: that's my viewpoint. I actually that sentiment exactly as well.

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00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: But I don't know if you've been following the news

533
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Speaker 1: but there has been an uptick in hostility against unhoused people.

534
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Speaker 1: Have you seen the latest where an unhoused person was

535
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: almost burned alive by a city of Chamber of Commerce

536
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: son who as well as the poor depth of unhoused

537
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Speaker 1: people in New York City. I have seen some of

538
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: that coverage. It's just kind of gruesome and shocking and

539
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,239
Speaker 1: disgusting because I think the sentiment is like, and this

540
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: was something that they kind of thought of, I guess,

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Speaker 1: you know when they did this woman movement thing and

542
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: they tell the young men, oh, don't think of them,

543
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: think of them as your sister or your mother. Well,

544
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: you're not going to think of them that way, and

545
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: you're not going to think of unhoused people in that way, like, oh,

546
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: let's have compassion because they're remind us of somebody. You're

547
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: not going to do that. But what you can say

548
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: is like, we're all human beings, we're all people. And

549
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Speaker 1: I think that really puts a more clear picture on it,

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00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: very well and very well spoken to it. One of

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Speaker 1: the things I also want to talk about, which leads

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Speaker 1: into it, is do you think the city councils, the mayor,

553
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: and the police has a hand in promoting the image

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00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: on house people as dangerous, mentally ill and on drugs. Well,

555
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: of course, like we have to look to our leadership

556
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: to really give us advice and to lead by example.

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00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: So I would like for everybody in leadership to kind

558
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: of put their foot down, put you know, put the

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00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: money where buckets, you know, so to speak, and just

560
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: really stop. I would like to see more action being

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00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: taken in favor of helping people instead of criminalizing people.

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Speaker 1: My cinema is exactly I agree. I think they the

563
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: leadership has done a piss poor job, and that is

564
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: because they have been leading the leading force to the

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00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: vigilante groups that aren't Facebook. They've joined a white nationalists group,

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Speaker 1: they have joined these other hate groups in order to

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Speaker 1: promote and stand idly by why residents take potshots or

568
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Speaker 1: visual fire moombs to a resident in Echo Park or

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Speaker 1: shoot at an housed person from their car recently, like

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Speaker 1: particularly last Sunday. So they have had the hand in

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Speaker 1: all of us, and they don't understand that what they

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00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: do reverberates through the regular populace, and the populace has

573
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: been amping themselves up with not in my backyard, which

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Speaker 1: and they have been pushing the politicians to reinstitute a

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Speaker 1: or re expand to forty one eighteen, which states that

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00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: unhoused people can't sleep near parks or sit near parks,

577
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: or near schools or driveways or bridges and the like.

578
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: And the challenges is that the unspoken word is that

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Speaker 1: they are trying to push them out into the desert

580
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Speaker 1: because they will not be able to get any services.

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Speaker 1: So do you think it's important. Do you think it's

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Speaker 1: it's the right step in trying to criminalize already a

583
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: downtrodden people or to try to help them. Criminalizing anybody

584
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,239
Speaker 1: isn't going to really help in this particular situation. I

585
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: think what needs to be done is for their action

586
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: and policies so far as for one, just reiterating the

587
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: fact that they're that people are people and they need

588
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: to be treated. Everybody needs to be treated with some

589
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: level of dignity and respect, no matter what. And I

590
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 1: just don't understand it myself, I really don't. I feel

591
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: there's more housing for people who are doing things that

592
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: they shouldn't be doing and rehabilitation, and there's not enough

593
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: for people who you know, may have a mental illness

594
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: or may not, who may have fallen on, you know,

595
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: downtrodden times who may have had medical issues at some point,

596
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 1: where you know, people who just can't afford this highest

597
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: ridiculous rint that they have for these little checks in

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Speaker 1: the city of Los Angeles. So we have to think

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Speaker 1: of it from that perspective too, because these these perspectives

600
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Speaker 1: and other perspectives, like more dire perspectives, are the reason

601
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Speaker 1: why we're having this crisis. So we have to address

602
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: the housing issue. And the housing issue is just that

603
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: they're building these high apartments, especially I see it in

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Speaker 1: Chinatown where nobody lives, it's vacant. They want to you know,

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00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: they want people in there that have money, and they

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00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: maybe have like ten people in there, you know, and

607
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: they don't want other people to be able to afford

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Speaker 1: to live there because they want to just make money. Well,

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00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: you can't bleed a turn up, Okay, you can't bleed

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00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: a beat. There's nothing in there. So we're we're all

611
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: at risk of being homeless, really, you know. So that

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00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: has to be the sentiment that this isn't just about

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Speaker 1: unhoused people. This is about us as a community, US

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00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: as a city, US as a country, US as a state.

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00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: Like how are we protecting the people. I think that's

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00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: well the reason because I feel that once they create

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00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: these new laws, like for example, they are doing that

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00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: Martin versus Boys is Amacus brief, which gives them more

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Speaker 1: power into attacking on house people. And then they're also

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00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 1: having open discussions about the forty one eighteen A through D.

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Speaker 1: These things are what's salient to today's time. We that

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00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: are having these financial struggles don't realize if we become

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Speaker 1: a house we have transitioned from a capitalist or a

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00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 1: taxpayer or a person that pays to a criminal. Because

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00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: I've heard it multiple times, you will be subjected to

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00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: the same laws that you may have been improved into.

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00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: Or the city has pushed themselves to try to penalize

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00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: on house people to hide them, particularly because the Olympics

629
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: is coming and they don't want to see the isore

630
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: and this misery of unhoused people, and people from all

631
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: over the world will point and says, why God, what

632
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: is going on? Why are these and house people out there?

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00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: So if the city can continue to paint the pictures

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Speaker 1: that they are criminals that were a danger and we

635
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: put them in a desert camp or things like that,

636
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: nature out of side, out of mind. Then they can

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00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: create the position that they are doing something about it

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Speaker 1: without further ado. I also want to lastly point out

639
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Speaker 1: that when we talk about n house issues in the show,

640
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: we're talking about the real things of the drill challenges

641
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: that is overlooked for everyday people. We transition from having

642
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: things we take for granted like a bathroom, showers and

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Speaker 1: places to sleep without constant fear of being killed, burned

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Speaker 1: alive or harassed by police officers, business improvement district and

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Speaker 1: just the populic that doesn't like unhouse people. And so

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you my guests today, Sarah Chisholm,

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Speaker 1: of course, thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: On House News, Bill Henderson, heavy rains on Wednesday causes

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Speaker 1: unhouse people to go in places where house people do

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Speaker 1: not wish to see them, and thus causes a new

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Speaker 1: cycle of police police interference. Los Angeles, Las Vegas new

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Speaker 1: ortanance criminalizes unhoused people. Santa Cruz received seven million to

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Speaker 1: focus on expanding shelters for the unhoused. Unhoused residents in Phoenix,

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Speaker 1: Arizona camp are offered no shelter after they are ejected

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Speaker 1: by the police and under housed news across the county

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Speaker 1: to dye in Washington, DC due to the cold weather

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Speaker 1: due to no shelters available for unhoused residents. Some final

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Speaker 1: thoughts on La Times Steve Lopez's fluff piece and support

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Speaker 1: of Los Angeles Police's law and order stance against unhoused people.

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Speaker 1: We have shown that policing and criminalizing unhoused people is

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Speaker 1: not the solution, and this is what our podcast is about,

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00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: showing the light and educating against the tide of hostility,

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Speaker 1: vigilante justice and this delisional notion that the police will

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Speaker 1: solve the problem of unhoused people. Steve Lopez considers Detective

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Speaker 1: Genie expelled gea in Ey that she is tough, compassionate,

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Speaker 1: and resourceful. She further adds on that she also is

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Speaker 1: out there looking at people who may be ready for

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Speaker 1: something different. In her philosophy, which is unstated but really

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Speaker 1: pretty clear, that she believes most unhoused people are out

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Speaker 1: here because they want to be out here, as if

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Speaker 1: it's the thing to do. I'm going to play a

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Speaker 1: situational game and offer translation because the language should be

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Speaker 1: very clear. This is a quote from the Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: Times newspaper one. They go to work, they played by

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Speaker 1: the rules. They play by the rules, they can't get

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Speaker 1: any peace. Here's the translation. They go to work. Translation,

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Speaker 1: unhoused people are lazy and don't want to work. They

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Speaker 1: play by the rue. Unhoused people break for law. They

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00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,959
Speaker 1: are are harassed and they don't want any they want.

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Speaker 1: They have no peace, they don't feel safe. Unhoused people

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00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: are violent and a torment to good people. So, in

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Speaker 1: other words, the conclusion that could be read between the

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Speaker 1: lines as unhoused people are a bunch of violent, not

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Speaker 1: good people that don't want to play by the rules,

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Speaker 1: that are harassing people that are going to work, and

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Speaker 1: that don't want to do anything but stay on the

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Speaker 1: streets to get high and be mentally ill. Steve Lopez

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00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: again has shown that he has as he followed this

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Speaker 1: detective around for a month and he immediately called her

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Speaker 1: to get the unhoused czar or expert on the situation.

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Speaker 1: And in essence, what he's saying and he's telling the

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Speaker 1: populace when he got evolved in this social justice issue

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00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: is to get the police back on law and order

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00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: has remained because, after all, when she walks up on

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Speaker 1: people who don't want to move their tent and tell

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Speaker 1: them to move along or break down their tent in

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Speaker 1: eighty or ninety degree weather. They are lawless. There's no

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Speaker 1: law in order. Laws are meant to be focused informed.

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Speaker 1: So when you have that end kind of thinking, and

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Speaker 1: when you see unhoused people trying to survive and stay

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Speaker 1: protected because your needs doesn't change when you become on

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Speaker 1: the street, that tells you just where the thinking is

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Speaker 1: on the rest of the society. They don't want to

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00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: see you, they don't even want to think about you.

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Speaker 1: They don't even care what reasons that you're out there.

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Speaker 1: You're not playing by the rules, and you should be

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Speaker 1: handled with extreme prejudice with the sanction hit a sanction

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Speaker 1: approval of the Los Angeles Police Department. I want to

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Speaker 1: leave some final thoughts for today. As the unhouses suffered

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Speaker 1: through our society's indifference, apathy, and hostility, we still have

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Speaker 1: an undeniable fact. We still remain interconnected with the human family.

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Speaker 1: You cannot put us anywhere where we are destined to be,

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00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: and I mean by that is you can't throw us

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Speaker 1: into clouds. You can't send us to concentration camps, and

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Speaker 1: you cannot ignore our existence, our humanity. We are interconnected

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Speaker 1: with mankind, just as you are. I'm remembered by the

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00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: words of an old poet when he says, no man

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Speaker 1: is an island entire of itself. Each part is part

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Speaker 1: of the continent. So we are part of the continent,

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Speaker 1: a part of the main. We breed, we live, we love,

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Speaker 1: we sorrow, just the same as you do. We put

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Speaker 1: our pants on with one leg at the time. The

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Speaker 1: house is a part of our reality and a part

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Speaker 1: of the main society. When are we going to learn

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00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: that it is? And a house suffers that we all suffer.

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00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: Each unhoused death diminishes the house. We are involved in humankind, therefore,

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Speaker 1: so not to know for whom the bell tolls, it

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Speaker 1: tolds for thee Thank you for listening to our show.

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Speaker 1: I will leave you with the thought our lives begin

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Speaker 1: to end the day we become silent about things that matter.

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Speaker 1: Too long we have had some well meaning, good people

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Speaker 1: being silent about the issues that unhouse people face, partly

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Speaker 1: due to fear of being retaliated against. They have an advantage.

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Speaker 1: They have the comfort of going to their house, but

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Speaker 1: unhoused people do not. Unhouse people are scrambling on a

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Speaker 1: day to day survival basis and at the mercy of

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Speaker 1: a disgruntled neighbor, a disgruntled police officer that may have

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Speaker 1: had a bad day, or a panic city council board,

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Speaker 1: a supervisor or mayor that is caving into the hatred

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Speaker 1: and vigilanteism that is inspired by the community. Where are

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Speaker 1: the good people to stand against this rising tide of hate.

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Speaker 1: We're looking for you. We cannot use the fifth Estate

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Speaker 1: anymore because Steve Lopez of the Los Angeles Times has

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00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: baked his stake in the madness of the machine. He

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00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: has joined the party of hatred. So the time is

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Speaker 1: always right to do what is right, and we are

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Speaker 1: waiting on you to join us in this fight. Assass