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Speaker 1: the Celtics, so as I'm prone to do. Let me

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Speaker 1: pat myself in the back here, I said earlier in

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Speaker 1: this series, you is my witness, I said believe it

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Speaker 1: or not, I think Robert Williams is the key to

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Speaker 1: the series. He's not the best player, he's not a

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Speaker 1: top three four player, but he had the biggest plus

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Speaker 1: the offensive rebounds, the rejections and the offensive rebounds, and

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Speaker 1: he shuts down any interior scoring. So Boston had better paint,

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Speaker 1: scoring more blocks, thirteen or fourteen offensive rebounds, And generally,

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Speaker 1: if you look at a series, you think it's Tatum

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Speaker 1: the size I think Robert Williams. I think he's a

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Speaker 1: and he reduces them to a three ball shooting team.

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Speaker 1: And as good as they are, if Boston scoring in transition,

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Speaker 1: rest of the series, I think Boston's the better team.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts. Most importantly, Rob Williams just played a much

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Speaker 1: better game than he had been playing earlier in the series.

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Speaker 1: As well, he looked a lot more immobiles the wrong word,

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Speaker 1: but just he looked banged up in the first couple

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Speaker 1: Kevan Looney and getting kind of lost and giving up stuff.

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Speaker 1: On the back end. I thought he just played a

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Speaker 1: As a team, Boston, you know, Colin, we talked about

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Speaker 1: this was just a textbook game where that physicality swung

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Speaker 1: We just they're just gonna have these moments. But and

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Speaker 1: The Showtime Lakers, Warriors, MJ's Bulls, a lot of our champions,

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Speaker 1: Jason have been really flawed teams. They've had overachievers, they've

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Speaker 1: don Chich. They were worried about whether or not you

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Speaker 1: could beat the top teams in the league. Right now,

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Speaker 1: you're playing one of the top teams in the league,

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Speaker 1: and it looks like you don't have enough talent, and

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Speaker 1: so I just kind of disagreed with that approach. It's

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Speaker 1: the straddling of two eras, and it looks like you've

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Speaker 1: got some stars that are aging and some young guys

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Speaker 1: that aren't ready in a missed opportunity there in the middle. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I like, I would take the Warriors and the points.

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Speaker 1: FanDuel added at three and a half, I'd probably take

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Speaker 1: Golden State in the points, but I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they win. I think it's a I think I think

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Speaker 1: it's going to be closer because I think the Warriors

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Speaker 1: will play with a certain level of desperation, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's certainly possible. Boston. I mean, Tatum has not

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Speaker 1: had a good series. You know, Let's let's be totally clear.

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Speaker 1: Marcus Smart doesn't give you back to back great offensive

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Speaker 1: games very much. Okay, so I think he pulls back.

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Speaker 1: I think Draymond plays a little better. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a really really competitive game. Slight edge, Boston, what say you?

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I I it's in terms of a

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Speaker 1: betting opportunity, I would take Golden State because you're getting

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Speaker 1: points or you're getting odds in the money line situation,

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Speaker 1: because I do view this game as a coin flip.

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Speaker 1: This to me is the game that will determine the

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Speaker 1: outcome of the series. I think if Boston wins, series

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Speaker 1: is over. If Golden State wins and they go back

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Speaker 1: to two with two of the last three games at home,

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Speaker 1: I think Golden State wins. So this game on Friday

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Speaker 1: is shaping up to be absolutely massive. But Golden State

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Speaker 1: knows that, and so they're going to come out sharp.

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Speaker 1: Boston routinely in this playoff run has let their foot

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Speaker 1: off the gas after a big win. So I view

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Speaker 1: it as a coin flip type of game. So as

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Speaker 1: a better I'd probably be on Golden State. But in

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Speaker 1: terms of a coin flip type of game, when I

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Speaker 1: think Boston has a little bit better two way talent,

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Speaker 1: you know, my head tells me I'm giving a slight

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Speaker 1: edge to Boston there By the way I just saw this.

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry's status for games game four is uncertain, not great.

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Speaker 1: That loose ball he got injured, someone landed on it.

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Speaker 1: I saw that. Yeah, you know. When I was happening,

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Speaker 1: I kept thinking, Oh no, dude, dud, dude, get out

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Speaker 1: of there. The game's over. Get out of there. Those

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Speaker 1: scrums that's when you bend your elbow backwards, that's when

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Speaker 1: you get That's when you get like your knee caught

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Speaker 1: in those scrums. I'm like Staff, that's a big guy battle.

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Speaker 1: Get out of there. Listen. If the Warriors lose, I

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Speaker 1: do think they'll tweak their roster. I absolutely do. They're

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Speaker 1: not going to get rid of Clay because Clay it

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Speaker 1: was good enough tonight, good enough laid against the Mavericks.

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Speaker 1: They're going to bring him back. They'll bring him back staff.

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Speaker 1: You know, Draymond is such a bouncer at the nightclub

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Speaker 1: for them. Looney's one of their only big guys. But

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Speaker 1: I think Wiggins, I think you're earlier point. Boston feels

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Speaker 1: like they're a guy shy in this series. Kerr historically

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Speaker 1: does not like to play young guys in the postseason.

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Speaker 1: They I really I don't know if he would be

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Speaker 1: a difference maker, but god, could they use Jonathan Kuminga

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Speaker 1: And if you are not a Warrior fan, he's six seven,

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Speaker 1: two twenty, wildly athletic, and they us need another wing

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Speaker 1: guy because Draymond now has forced to go out to

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Speaker 1: the wing. They get smaller. They're very vulnerable. Grant Williams,

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Speaker 1: Robert Williams, the Warriors are really vulnerable on the interior.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it would be a difference in

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Speaker 1: this series, but I think your point earlier is Golden

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Speaker 1: State feels an athlete shy comingas the athlete. But he's

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Speaker 1: a kid. I mean, god, I think what is he nineteen?

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Speaker 1: He's like a you know, Kurt doesn't Steve's been in

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Speaker 1: this league too long. He knows what nineteen year olds

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Speaker 1: do in the postseason. I mean, even Jordan Poole in

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Speaker 1: Game one looked completely nervous, was totally ineffective. So listen,

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Speaker 1: let's not count out anybody. But the word is as

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Speaker 1: Curry is his they don't know what his health is.

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Speaker 1: That would be a disaster. It would be series over.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's absolutely yeah, all right. Jason timp he covers

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Speaker 1: the Lakers for US, but he has been such a

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Speaker 1: versatile guy for the Volume. By the way, subscribe please

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Speaker 1: to the Volume YouTube page. Um, he hosts who Whoops tonight,

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Speaker 1: He's got podcasts. He played basketball. His best game ever

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Speaker 1: was thirty one points. I follow him on Twitter. Uh

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Speaker 1: and he didn't even shoot well in pregames on his

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Speaker 1: thirty one point college basketball best night of his career,

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Speaker 1: as I saw. By the way, that's a great point

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Speaker 1: because it never means anything how you shoot in warmups.

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Speaker 1: It means absolutely nothing, and it always has you can

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Speaker 1: tear the range up and be terrible on the course.

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Speaker 1: It's so it was so interesting. Someone's like, oh, man,

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Speaker 1: I've never seen step shoot this poor land warm ups,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, that doesn't matter. Like it's one thousand

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Speaker 1: percent about how you feel in that game and when

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Speaker 1: that game gets going. There's just it's such a it's

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Speaker 1: such an interesting it's it's especially jump shooting. It's it's

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Speaker 1: it's such a it's such a mind f like, well,

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Speaker 1: it's just so difficult. I mean, Clay spot Clay tonight,

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Speaker 1: he was in the right spot. He was terrible early,

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Speaker 1: then he got in the right spot. Then he missed,

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Speaker 1: then he got into the right spot. You know, when

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Speaker 1: you're an interior player, it's easy to regain you know.

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Speaker 1: Lebron's done that in his career. When he loses his

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Speaker 1: confidence in the jump shot, he just attacks the rim

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Speaker 1: three or four times. He gets his confidence back. But

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Speaker 1: early in his career he would lose his confidence on

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Speaker 1: his jumper a lot, and he would just be like,

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Speaker 1: all right, Kevin Love or Bosh, get out of the way,

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Speaker 1: you know, get out of the way, go to the perimeter.

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Speaker 1: I got I need four or five baskets at the hoop,

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Speaker 1: and then you regain your confidence. But those jump shooters

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Speaker 1: with Robert Williams, where do you get your confidence back?

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Speaker 1: If you're Clay, You're not getting to the basket. You've

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Speaker 1: got to get it on the perimeter. So I thought

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Speaker 1: Clay was a great example. Tonight bad early bad Missus

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Speaker 1: found his groove, lost it, found his groove with Robert Williams.

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Speaker 1: It's the only way you're gonna do it. You're not

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Speaker 1: going to be able to drive the lane get some

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Speaker 1: close shots. I mean, god, how about Robert Williams block

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Speaker 1: on Curry sent that thing of front levels of getting

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Speaker 1: everyone's head too. Those are the blocks that make people

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Speaker 1: start getting second thoughts as they navigate their way into

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Speaker 1: the lane. Colin, I've heard you say this on your

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Speaker 1: show before, but like, one of the big reasons why

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Speaker 1: golfers get yips is it's it's a type. It's the

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Speaker 1: type of thing where making mistakes is so common that

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Speaker 1: it's hard to derive confidence. And that's the thing with

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Speaker 1: jump shooting that's so weird. Like Steph Curry's best season,

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Speaker 1: he might make a little fewer than half of his threes, right,

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Speaker 1: that means he's missing more than half of them. So

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Speaker 1: how do you maintain your confidence as a jump shooter

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Speaker 1: knowing that as you're rising into a three, it's actually

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Speaker 1: most likely that you will miss it. And that's why,

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Speaker 1: like the audacity becomes such an important factor there, and

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Speaker 1: we were talking about this with Tatum a while back,

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Speaker 1: but you need to have supreme confidence if you're the

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Speaker 1: type of basketball player that relies on your jump shot,

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Speaker 1: because you will, even if you do everything right, you

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Speaker 1: might miss two or three of them in a row,

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Speaker 1: and that's it's just the nature of the game. And

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Speaker 1: that's all so why I've always been such a huge

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Speaker 1: believer in Lebron. And again, I'm not a Lebron goat guy.

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Speaker 1: I think he's behind MJ winning six titles and eight

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Speaker 1: tries as a level of dominance that Lebron hasn't even sniffed.

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Speaker 1: That said, he's by far the most reliable playoff player

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Speaker 1: of this era. When you go into a Lebron playoff game,

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Speaker 1: you just know he's going to play well. And a

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Speaker 1: huge part of that is because if he doesn't shoot well,

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Speaker 1: he's eight for twenty two with twenty seven, eleven and nine,

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Speaker 1: and if he shoots well, it's thirty seven, eleven and nine,

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Speaker 1: and either of them are great games. It's just a

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Speaker 1: question of whether or not you're going to get the

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Speaker 1: great game or the supernova game, because the jump shot

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Speaker 1: is just gravy with him, it's the same thing with Jannis. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I saw a stat the other day that Lebron led

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Speaker 1: the NBA and I'm not something around here. He led

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Speaker 1: the NBA in field goal percentage on two point shots

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Speaker 1: and I think there was a minimum number of attempts

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Speaker 1: or something, and he was over It was like fifty

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Speaker 1: five percent. He's still such a great get a bucket guy.

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Speaker 1: He's just unbelievable. Okay, Jason timp hoops to Night The Volume.

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Speaker 1: Please subscribe. We're out of here for tonight. I'm back

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Speaker 1: on tomorrow. iHeart Radio FS one nine in the morning

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Speaker 1: without the Medello. Just one. That's it. One Medello. Not

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Speaker 1: going crazy here. I need clarity. I gotta be able

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Speaker 1: to see this stuff. And Jason, you're awesome. We'll talk soon.

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