Speaker 1: We're nearing the end of our time with Shakira.
Speaker 2: Hey, but it's not over until you get her to
Speaker 2: come to my Quadenttanieta.
Speaker 1: Sorry to disappoint you, but that's.
Speaker 2: Not ever give up.
Speaker 1: Yes, like Shakira, she never gave up, and she conquered
Speaker 1: it all, from her Telenovella obscurity to those regrettable nineties
Speaker 1: flops to becoming a household name.
Speaker 2: The same girl who wasn't good enough to join her
Speaker 2: high school's choir was now selling out arenas.
Speaker 1: She had the Pope as an audience, along with some
Speaker 1: of the most notable intellectuals of our time. She's building
Speaker 1: schools for kids and her ps, the Scotstols Foundation, is
Speaker 1: dedicated to helping impoverish youth.
Speaker 2: Saint Shakira the People's Latin princessa.
Speaker 1: And if that wasn't enough, she was also collaborating with
Speaker 1: the biggest stars on the planet, hosting reality competitions and
Speaker 1: creating anthems for the world to single onto.
Speaker 2: She was able to experiment with her sound no matter
Speaker 2: the language, and just be her authentic.
Speaker 1: And while others may have had to sacrifice all of
Speaker 1: that to fit into the American market, everything shifted to
Speaker 1: make room for her. She survived disappointment, setbacks, and heartbreak.
Speaker 2: I'm a survivor.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give up. I'm not gonna stop Kolkata.
Speaker 2: She even survived the benches, self doubt and realized that
Speaker 2: she was simply enough.
Speaker 1: She was in love, she was starting a family. She
Speaker 1: had overcome it all.
Speaker 2: But just when we thought the fairy tale was reaching
Speaker 2: its happily ever after, a new dragon appeared to burn
Speaker 2: it all down.
Speaker 1: On today's episode, you'll hear all about the terrifying emergency
Speaker 1: that almost ended her career, the making of El Dorado,
Speaker 1: and we'll go beyond the tabloid headlines for a closer
Speaker 1: look at the demise of her decade long relationship with
Speaker 1: soccer star Gerard Pique. I'm your host, Liliana Oosquez.
Speaker 2: And I'm Joseph Carrio and This is Becoming an Icon.
Speaker 1: A weekly podcast where we give you the rundown on
Speaker 1: how today's most famous LATINV stars have shaped pop culture.
Speaker 2: And given the world some extra tubble.
Speaker 1: Sit back and get comfortable.
Speaker 2: Because we are going in the only way we know how.
Speaker 1: With Buena's leave us usas and a lot of opinions
Speaker 1: as we relive their greatest achievements on our journey to
Speaker 1: find out what makes them so iconic. So we had
Speaker 1: you full, Tom, You didn't really think We're going to
Speaker 1: do a whole series of shows on Shakira and leave
Speaker 1: out this collaboration.
Speaker 2: The song that gaves cigars smoking a bed, romping Shakda
Speaker 2: and really, how did this collab even happen?
Speaker 1: Well, as the story goes, Once upon a time in
Speaker 1: twenty ten, Shakira had just released Salle Sol. While promoting it,
Speaker 1: she teased that she was already working on her upcoming album.
Speaker 2: Rumors immediately started.
Speaker 1: Okay, so going back, It's December twenty thirteen and their
Speaker 1: rumor mill claim Shakira and Rihanna were working together on
Speaker 1: a duet. That was followed up by claims that Shakira
Speaker 1: was filming a music video and that Rihanna had been
Speaker 1: spotted on set. Then the final confirmation the world needed
Speaker 1: from none other.
Speaker 2: Than Pitbull mister worldwide spilling secrets.
Speaker 1: Yeh He was on a radio show for an interview
Speaker 1: and he mentioned Rihanna couldn't do the feature for Timber
Speaker 1: because she was busy working with Shakira.
Speaker 2: Oh but it she's most so steadig lo and bold.
Speaker 1: After four years, the song was released in January twenty
Speaker 1: fourteen as a single for Shakira's upcoming self titled album.
Speaker 2: And it became an unforgettable hit.
Speaker 1: So I know your feelings on this song, but you
Speaker 1: and I differ on our passion for this.
Speaker 2: Song because you is a hating as a bin.
Speaker 1: You know, there are certain songs out there that on
Speaker 1: their own, they just like stand alone in their power,
Speaker 1: in their infectiousness. This song, for me personally, is not
Speaker 1: one of those. But that being said, when you watch
Speaker 1: the video along with the song, it makes the song
Speaker 1: so much better.
Speaker 2: That's just kind of where we differ. You heard the
Speaker 2: song first, I didn't, So I have visuals of being sexy,
Speaker 2: smoking cigars, pretending I'm a rolling around in a bathing
Speaker 2: sit with my motherfucking BEESTI so that is what it
Speaker 2: felt like.
Speaker 1: It's just one of those songs that for me needed
Speaker 1: the visuals, and it obviously didn't hurt that the visuals
Speaker 1: were Rihanna and Shakira slapping each other's asses in bed.
Speaker 1: I mean like the world could not ask for a
Speaker 1: sexier combination of women. And you know, bottom, I think
Speaker 1: it's like you said, it's just fun.
Speaker 2: It's fun, it's relatable, and it's the lyrics. I mean,
Speaker 2: I feel attacked, gagged, I'm living. The behind the scenes
Speaker 2: of this video really really takes me back. We're in
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen again. It's like my favorite ear and Rihanna
Speaker 2: is still releasing music. I mean, talk about a blast
Speaker 2: for in the past.
Speaker 1: I know it still hurts. I don't know when the
Speaker 1: album is coming, but it's okay. Maybe we will get
Speaker 1: through it. And what I love about this is that
Speaker 1: in the behind the scenes of the video, Rihanna is
Speaker 1: super humble about the whole thing, sharing that, you know what,
Speaker 1: it was actually a nightmare to shoot with Shatki.
Speaker 2: What tell us how you really feel, Rihanna?
Speaker 1: Okay, so I did you all a little dirty there?
Speaker 1: Let me explain. Let me explain. What she was saying
Speaker 1: was that the shoot was difficult for her because Shakira
Speaker 1: is the sexiest woman alive and here she is Rihanna
Speaker 1: having to shake her hips next to her, the woman
Speaker 1: who is literally known for her cut us read, we
Speaker 1: get it. Nobody wants that job.
Speaker 2: We do love a humble queen, but Rihanna is a goddess.
Speaker 1: She is, and Rihanna also shared that it was an
Speaker 1: amazing opportunity to collaborate with Shakira, calling her an icon
Speaker 1: in her eyes.
Speaker 2: We should have got her to do this episode with us.
Speaker 2: Should we call her?
Speaker 1: Do you have her number?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But I'm not allowed to call her or be
Speaker 2: within five hundred feet of her or whatever.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's not get into the legalities of your restraining
Speaker 1: orders plural. Let's move on.
Speaker 2: And Chaquida saying her praises right back, she said Rihanna is,
Speaker 2: without a doubt, the sexiest woman she's ever met. The
Speaker 2: two are an inspiring combo bound to make the Machia.
Speaker 2: They were able to blend it all together, reggae and
Speaker 2: rock for an incredible track.
Speaker 1: You know, at times it feels like Shakira works best
Speaker 1: on her own as a solo artist, but you know
Speaker 1: what she is all about the collab es actually with
Speaker 1: artists that she's admired for a long time, like the.
Speaker 2: Lead vocalist and guitarist of Soda Stereo, Gustavo Sarati. Soda Stereo,
Speaker 2: for all of our listeners that may not know them,
Speaker 2: is one of the biggest bands in Latin rock history.
Speaker 1: We're talking bigger than Green Day. I don't want to
Speaker 1: say that they're like the Latino Beatles, but you know what,
Speaker 1: let's just say it. And by the way, all when
Speaker 1: this episode ends, not now, when it ends, google Coldplay
Speaker 1: and Soda Stereo for a little intro class into their musika.
Speaker 2: Also, Chris Martin speaks in decent Espanol.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's very sexy when he sings in Spanish. Not
Speaker 1: that he's not sexy when he sings in English, but like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, the Spanish just took it to a
Speaker 1: whole other level.
Speaker 2: It's sexy. Yeah, ma man.
Speaker 1: Chris Shaki loved Sarati and soon they were close and
Speaker 1: frequent collaborators. She said of him, you can tell his
Speaker 1: influence over me. You can tell I'm a sarathianaigski Yaosmi.
Speaker 2: Did she make his name into an identity?
Speaker 1: She totally did. I kind of want that for myself.
Speaker 2: Me too, My boo better say I'm a Gotti Joanna.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that doesn't really roll off the tongue as.
Speaker 2: Well, bitch, I'm trying now.
Speaker 1: My favorite song that they ever wrote together, it's called.
Speaker 2: No Can I just say how much I love that? Song.
Speaker 2: It's so powerful.
Speaker 1: Just listen to these lyrics. Okay, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: sing the lyrics, but listen to the words. No, don't
Speaker 1: try to apologize. Don't insist as if it's just a game.
Speaker 1: Excuses already existed before you came up with them. No,
Speaker 1: don't look at me like you used to. Don't speak
Speaker 1: in plural rhetoric is your most lethal weapon.
Speaker 2: Okay, First of all, bitch, I could tell you were
Speaker 2: really feeling that, and I have the chills.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: In May of twenty ten, Sarati had a stroke and
Speaker 1: would be in a coma for almost four years before
Speaker 1: he passed.
Speaker 2: Just like with Gobbo before, Shakido's always searching for collaborators
Speaker 2: that challenge her and help her grow.
Speaker 1: And Saradi was one of the biggest influences of her career.
Speaker 2: When news of his passing got to Shakida, she dedicated
Speaker 2: her performance of Salel Soul to him.
Speaker 1: Her wishful words when presenting the single were the following,
Speaker 1: It's the first time I'm singing this song officially. This
Speaker 1: is dedicated to everybody who has gone through a hard time,
Speaker 1: no matter how difficult things may seem there is a
Speaker 1: light at the end of the road, and this song
Speaker 1: I wanted to dedicate to my great friend Gustavo set
Speaker 1: up Gustavo. After the storm, the sun comes out.
Speaker 2: Not to worry, my DearS. Not all was lost in
Speaker 2: Shakida's life. Soon enough she gained what her heart and
Speaker 2: soul was truly yearning for.
Speaker 1: In twenty fourteen, Shakira shared this, I would love to
Speaker 1: have eight or nine kids, which your are my own
Speaker 1: football team. When you have a baby, you feel his love,
Speaker 1: you feel so at peace with the world. A year later,
Speaker 1: she gave birth to their second son, Sasha Pique Meba.
Speaker 1: By now, Shakira had packed up and was living with
Speaker 1: and her beautiful boys in Barcelona. As she described it,
Speaker 1: for the time being, her career came second. She was
Speaker 1: focused on family life and on supporting Pik and his
Speaker 1: football career.
Speaker 2: Red Flag.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that you said this because this action
Speaker 1: is very triggering for me.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent, Like why would she have to take
Speaker 2: the back seat when she's already a global international superstar exactly?
Speaker 1: And when your partners in a life together, why does
Speaker 1: anyone's career have to take the backseat. Why not work
Speaker 1: together so that both of you can have success and
Speaker 1: achieved career goals. And you know what, I feel like
Speaker 1: it often happens in entertainment. I mean, think about women
Speaker 1: like Cameron Diaz, Selma Hayek, right, I mean even Jlo
Speaker 1: had to take that break when her twins were born,
Speaker 1: and even Mendez like, here is you know, Ryan Gosling
Speaker 1: crushing and she says it's been for a lack of
Speaker 1: good roles. But they're all kind of taking a little
Speaker 1: bit of a back seat, or they all chosen to
Speaker 1: take a back seat, And it makes me wonder why.
Speaker 2: Well, I want to ask you a really quick question.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, right now, I know you are
Speaker 2: not taking a back seat, but you are wanting to
Speaker 2: spend time with your kids. So is it maybe also
Speaker 2: them wanting to be like I just also want to
Speaker 2: learn who this little person is, so we can't necessarily
Speaker 2: be like, oh, it's the masculinity. It's also like I'm
Speaker 2: just trying to play Devil's advocate here, like, because you're
Speaker 2: in a position where you're just kind of like, I
Speaker 2: do want to stay home.
Speaker 1: Totally listen, there is nothing wrong with any parent choosing
Speaker 1: to prioritize family over career. I champion that decision. I
Speaker 1: applaud people for making that decision because the most important
Speaker 1: thing that you do is raise your family. Right, But
Speaker 1: in Shakira's case, it didn't feel like it was a
Speaker 1: family only decision. And in this situation, Shakira left her country,
Speaker 1: she left her home for him. She stepped back when
Speaker 1: she should have been stepping forward. So in this case,
Speaker 1: to me, like you said, it was a major red flag.
Speaker 1: But it's, you know, something to think about. Why do
Speaker 1: we as women often have to make the decision between
Speaker 1: family and career when our male counterparts aren't often faced
Speaker 1: with those same decisions. Preach motherhood became Shakira's full time job,
Speaker 1: and the music took a back seat.
Speaker 2: She kept teasing a new album, but days turned into
Speaker 2: months and months turned into years.
Speaker 1: And yes, we all know she's about rediscovery, as we
Speaker 1: established in our last episode, But did her role as
Speaker 1: a mama mean that she couldn't be an artist? Like
Speaker 1: we said, why did she have to pick one or
Speaker 1: the other? And by the way, girl call me because
Speaker 1: the motherhood identity crisis is so.
Speaker 2: Real, and this crisis was so dire even considered early retirement.
Speaker 1: That's right. During an interview with The New York Times,
Speaker 1: this is what she had to say. I was full
Speaker 1: of doubts and I thought I was never going to
Speaker 1: make good music again. But as opposed to the shakira
Speaker 1: from Ladronez, who spent countless hours in the studio, she
Speaker 1: had to be more efficient and effective with her time.
Speaker 1: Now she had two little ones at home who needed her.
Speaker 1: If the album was meant to be, then it would be,
Speaker 1: and it did. She described it as finding inspiration itself
Speaker 1: and realizing it had always been there all along. That
Speaker 1: was my El Dorado, she said. And there was someone
Speaker 1: special who talked some sense into her, who encouraged her
Speaker 1: to keep going amidst the self doubt.
Speaker 2: PK.
Speaker 1: You can just say his name, normal.
Speaker 2: It's just a name, okay, Gerard PK Okay. Yes.
Speaker 1: Her Spanish footballer boyfriend told her that the right moment
Speaker 1: for her to retire would be when she no longer
Speaker 1: had anything else to say. But that moment it wasn't
Speaker 1: here yet.
Speaker 2: Wow, he really set her up for that one. Good huh.
Speaker 2: Now she has more than enough material for a whole
Speaker 2: damn boxe. So thank you pqu Let's.
Speaker 1: Not give him all the credit. You know who really
Speaker 1: helped Shakira get her groove back. Yes, The Colombian singer
Speaker 1: is best known for mixing the traditional with the more contemporary. Yes,
Speaker 1: that song is so damn catchy. I know it's different
Speaker 1: because we speak the language, but like, honestly, this is
Speaker 1: just a song. It's just good music. It's like feel
Speaker 1: good music. I also just love this version of Shakira.
Speaker 1: She just felt so care free in the video. She
Speaker 1: was back in Badankiya.
Speaker 2: She looked so happy, she was even glowing, like you
Speaker 2: could just tell that she felt like home.
Speaker 1: It did, and we had missed that side of her all.
Speaker 2: These years in Barcelona. I think really took a toll
Speaker 2: on our coolumbianna.
Speaker 1: For sure. She felt all kinds of disconnected physically, emotionally,
Speaker 1: mentally and spiritually. She was homesick and it took her
Speaker 1: reconnecting with her roots, her city, and her people to
Speaker 1: be able to make music again. Vivas had been wanting
Speaker 1: to collaborate with the Colombian star for a while. During
Speaker 1: an interview, Vivas revealed, I've always dreamt of writing, producing
Speaker 1: and recording a song with Shakira, so that together we
Speaker 1: can show our Colombia to the world.
Speaker 2: Did y'all know? This was Shakidra's first time collaboration with
Speaker 2: another Colombian.
Speaker 1: Artist, Crazy Right, and when she heard the demo that
Speaker 1: his team sent over, she loved it, but she needed
Speaker 1: to add that Shakira sparkle to it, so alongside Vivas,
Speaker 1: she rewrote lines like the catchy yeva ma and dhuvisikleta,
Speaker 1: and was the one that suggested that the song actually
Speaker 1: be titled le Vi Siicleta. In the song, Shakira sings
Speaker 1: that she loves both Marankia and Barcelona, but then they
Speaker 1: throw at you Gusia, Pique Algundia, le muestras elna. This
Speaker 1: Wassea Barcelona.
Speaker 2: Aka once Pks's help, Beauti Columbia is he won't want
Speaker 2: to lock her up in Spain.
Speaker 1: Much like bad Bunnies as the almost been, this music
Speaker 1: video shows a totally different side of Colombia that many
Speaker 1: people sadly don't get to see. Of the music video,
Speaker 1: Shakira said, it presents Columbia as I saw it through
Speaker 1: my childhood, and not as many people imagine it, not
Speaker 1: the Pablo Escobar Columbia, which is the cliche that lots
Speaker 1: of people who are not familiar with the rest of
Speaker 1: our reality only know about.
Speaker 2: It sparked something, Henny because she was writing again.
Speaker 1: El Dorado became the eleventh album in her.
Speaker 2: Career eleven albums all ready.
Speaker 1: She really doesn't stop none of our icons. Do you
Speaker 1: know what's crazy?
Speaker 2: Okay, well, this is what I think is crazy. El
Speaker 2: Dorado is where she lost her songbook, and then that's
Speaker 2: what she's naming this album. I mean it seems like
Speaker 2: full circle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's way better than what I was going to say.
Speaker 1: So yes that El Dorado was packed with collaborations, two.
Speaker 2: With Colombian singer Maluma, one each with Nikki Jam, Vivis, Black,
Speaker 2: m Magic and Earth You're so good at that.
Speaker 1: Shakira did try to embark on the El Dorado World Tour,
Speaker 1: and it was supposed to kick off in November twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: but the tour was postponed over and over again.
Speaker 2: Why was she busy trying for that football team with peaking?
Speaker 1: You would think so, but no. In November twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: Shakira announced on her socials that she had suffered a
Speaker 1: vocal cord hemorrhage.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the pipes were damaged, Holy Shiza.
Speaker 1: They put her on strict vocal rest and suggested surgery,
Speaker 1: but Shakira was terrified of surgery, so she relied on
Speaker 1: more non traditional measures.
Speaker 2: I am in to non traditional. What did Homegirl come
Speaker 2: up with?
Speaker 1: Hypnosis, meditation, even gargling with holy water from the French
Speaker 1: city of Ludres, anything to try and repair her vocal cords.
Speaker 1: She told The Guardian, either I needed surgery or divine intervention.
Speaker 2: How very late of her. It's definitely giving Gwyneth Paltro vibes.
Speaker 1: So goop and imagine it for a second, being a
Speaker 1: singer and losing your voice. It's like losing your identity.
Speaker 2: That's how I felt after I quit modeling.
Speaker 1: I bet Shaki called herself unbearable and bitter to be around.
Speaker 2: We've all been there, and honestly, I was there for
Speaker 2: like six years.
Speaker 1: Did the Agua Bandita do the trick for you?
Speaker 2: I'm still trying. Well.
Speaker 1: It worked for Shakira. She was back in the game
Speaker 1: and preparing for one of the biggest nights of her career.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Miami, Dmbnathos, I'm Miami, and welcome to Super
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty four. It's the performance that will not die
Speaker 1: and if.
Speaker 2: It does be equal resurrect.
Speaker 1: It, you can count on that. And the super Bowl
Speaker 1: in Miami featured none other than Jennifer Lopez and Shakira.
Speaker 1: It also happened to be Shakira's forty third birthday.
Speaker 2: So she gave us the gift of a lifetime.
Speaker 1: I feel like we should do an entire podcast about
Speaker 1: this super Bowl performance. I mean, Jennifer did an entire
Speaker 1: Netflix special audit, so clearly there's an audience. And this
Speaker 1: isn't the first time that we've talked about the super
Speaker 1: Bowl performance. We of course talked about it when we
Speaker 1: had our j Lo Icon episodes. But let's talk about
Speaker 1: what makes Shakira really stand out on this stage, and
Speaker 1: that for me was the choreography, the dancing, the movement.
Speaker 1: Because we all know that Shakira can sing, but I
Speaker 1: think we also don't realize is that she can dance
Speaker 1: like nobody else. She is such a skilled dancer, and
Speaker 1: what was so amazing about this particular performance is that
Speaker 1: she brought everything Colombian to that stage. So part of
Speaker 1: that routine was something called chumpfeta, which I did not
Speaker 1: know about. Until that night. Do you know what chumpeta is?
Speaker 2: Just sae, I am just actually I'm just learning about
Speaker 2: that right now, so enlighten.
Speaker 1: Me, okay. So, Jompeta is a style of dance that
Speaker 1: actually originated in Shakida's hometown of a Badanghia, and it's
Speaker 1: really known for this complicated footwork and it is such
Speaker 1: a core part of Colombian culture. She brought that to
Speaker 1: the stage, and as if Champeta wasn't enough, she also
Speaker 1: brought to the forefront another Afro Colombian dance called mapale right,
Speaker 1: and both of these dances were choreographed by Paris Goobel,
Speaker 1: who of course is like the hottest choreographer on the planet.
Speaker 1: But seeing Shakira do those dances and bring attention to
Speaker 1: something that is such an organic part of her culture
Speaker 1: and so Columbian her city, yeah, I mean it was
Speaker 1: really special and for somebody that loves dance and who
Speaker 1: doesn't like it was just so cool to like open
Speaker 1: my mind because when I saw her doing the chump beeta,
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa?
Speaker 3: What is that?
Speaker 1: It's some real fancy footwork, like you know, like Lord
Speaker 1: of the dance has got nothing on Champeta. I loved
Speaker 1: Lord of the Dance for Latinos. That performance was such
Speaker 1: a beautiful expression of how diverse our cultures are. J
Speaker 1: Loo and all of her Bodiquenez up on that stage.
Speaker 1: Shakita and all of her Columbiana is up there, and
Speaker 1: it was really beautiful for everyone else to see that diversity,
Speaker 1: but also how unified we are. And you know what,
Speaker 1: despite all the false media narratives about the conflict between
Speaker 1: Jlo and Shakira, both women handled that performance with so
Speaker 1: much grace.
Speaker 2: You know, Shakida's no stranger to sharing the spotlight with
Speaker 2: iconic women like Beyonce, Rihanna and now j Lo. She
Speaker 2: knows how to bring it and how to make everyone
Speaker 2: look good.
Speaker 1: During their joint press conference, Jlo shared her experience growing
Speaker 1: up with a football obsessed family, but Shakira well, she
Speaker 1: admitted that growing up in Columbia American football was way
Speaker 1: outside of her comfort zone.
Speaker 2: But both women agreed on one thing. The Super Bowl
Speaker 2: halftime show is the pinnacle of live performances.
Speaker 1: To perform on a global stage of that magnitude was
Speaker 1: an honor and a privilege.
Speaker 2: And yet there she was opening what would quickly become
Speaker 2: one of, if not the most iconic halftime show either.
Speaker 1: Can we do a quick fit chat. I feel like
Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about the music and the dancing,
Speaker 1: but I need to go in on her fits. Let's
Speaker 1: count down her top three performance looks, not of the
Speaker 1: super Bowl, but of all time. Okay, Joseph So coming
Speaker 1: in at number three, give it to us.
Speaker 2: Shakita rat unplugged truly gave me back her Shakda rocker
Speaker 2: with her red hair and her leather pants and boots,
Speaker 2: and she was just vibing in I.
Speaker 1: Love this look. I mean, for a lot of people,
Speaker 1: this was their first glimpse at Shakira, like who she
Speaker 1: was as an artist, what she represented. But that leather
Speaker 1: pant leather boot combo became a signature when it came
Speaker 1: to Shakira's style. Now let's talk about number two.
Speaker 2: Sexy Shakira and La Toura. I can't even describe it.
Speaker 2: Her hair is preasy and the video is is just everything.
Speaker 2: This is a sexy Shakida that I absolutely fell refell
Speaker 2: in love with.
Speaker 1: She looked so sexy in this She's wearing this black
Speaker 1: knotted T shirt with a bikini underneath, and then she's
Speaker 1: got this like black mini skirt, and of course she
Speaker 1: has her signature blonde hair. She had already transitioned from
Speaker 1: the red into the blonde, but it was covered in
Speaker 1: black paint and it was a pinnacle sexy Shakira for sure, totally.
Speaker 2: And finally, the most iconic performance look of all time.
Speaker 1: Let's call it what it is. This is icon Shakira,
Speaker 1: of course, naturally at the super Bowl. And I cheated
Speaker 1: because it's technically three looks in one by Peter Dunda.
Speaker 1: I know, I cheated. And of course the first one
Speaker 1: was like this red Sarasky crystal set. When she's asked
Speaker 1: about the show, she talks about how this red symbolizes
Speaker 1: fire and passion and it's been a signature color for
Speaker 1: her in many performances. She loves to wear like that
Speaker 1: really vibrant red. But this was, yeah, it is. And
Speaker 1: this was like a two piece skirt set, had a
Speaker 1: boustier top, it had a removable corset, and then out
Speaker 1: of nowhere, it transformed into a second look, which was
Speaker 1: that like beautiful fringe and feathered skirt that was hidden
Speaker 1: under her sarong.
Speaker 2: It's like.
Speaker 1: So right, it's like Transformers fashion. But then it gives
Speaker 1: way to her third and final look from the super
Speaker 1: Bowl performance, which was that gilded gold set, and that
Speaker 1: gold was meant to represent celebration and also symbolize the
Speaker 1: champion that is Shakira. To be honest, there's so many
Speaker 1: good performance looks to choose from, and I actually prefer
Speaker 1: Shakira in performance looks rather than red carpet looks. I
Speaker 1: feel like she's not as comfortable on a carpet as
Speaker 1: she is on a stage, and it shows because she
Speaker 1: like turns it up for her performances.
Speaker 2: But her performance outfits are insanity Caine. Wow. You know.
Speaker 1: I think she's just more comfortable dressing up and kind
Speaker 1: of like channeling this altere version of herself on stage,
Speaker 1: whereas in real life I think she's super cash Like.
Speaker 1: I think she's literally like bisskussles in her house in
Speaker 1: jeans and a T shirt.
Speaker 2: Like that tank top end the low jeans because she's
Speaker 2: that girl.
Speaker 1: Oh, she is all about a low rise. She'd never
Speaker 1: left the low rise, honey, And if I had a
Speaker 1: stomach like that, I wouldn't either. Joseph algom Pica, Oh.
Speaker 2: Girl, I have been sharpening these nights. Let's go.
Speaker 1: Shakira and Pikue they were everywhere. Forbes named them one
Speaker 1: of the world's most powerful couples. Singers were shouting them
Speaker 1: out in songs. She described their romance as passionate and exciting.
Speaker 2: You kinda watch out for those and you guys.
Speaker 1: They first met on the music video set for Waka Waka.
Speaker 1: The video featured several famous soccer players like Dani Alves,
Speaker 1: Carlos Kameni, Lionel Messi, and Raphael Markets.
Speaker 2: So Gerard wasn't that special.
Speaker 1: I mean, Shakira had no clue who pik was, but
Speaker 1: that didn't stop her from thinking, you know, he was
Speaker 1: cute and strategically sharing that little tidbit with the right people.
Speaker 1: We'll explain you. See, Shakira was at the FIFA World
Speaker 1: Cup in May of twenty ten. Now file that date
Speaker 1: away for later, okay. So pi k was arriving to
Speaker 1: the World Cup after her, and of course he needed
Speaker 1: to know what to pack, so he texted one of
Speaker 1: the hottest and most talented women in the world to
Speaker 1: ask her about the weather. The other has this man
Speaker 1: never heard of? Google? Alexa Siri? Like, I don't know
Speaker 1: pick your virtual assistant. It's so lame, so lame, and
Speaker 1: he knew that he had zero game, so the only
Speaker 1: way to see her and actually get her to agree
Speaker 1: to a date with him was to win the whole
Speaker 1: damn Cup.
Speaker 2: Excuse me a fact check time. At this moment in time,
Speaker 2: Shakio was dating the Laua. She was not even available.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I know.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: In August twenty ten, Shakira and Antonio confirmed they were done,
Speaker 1: so immediately after Shakiro was spotted with Gerard. Even though
Speaker 1: they kept claiming they were just friends, they.
Speaker 2: Made their relationship social media official in front of God
Speaker 2: and Facebook the summer with a photo and the caption.
Speaker 1: Was leespresento amisol aka, I present to you my son.
Speaker 2: Salle el sool. Oh shit, it's all adding up.
Speaker 1: Well it did for almost a decade, and of course
Speaker 1: two babies later. But in June of twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: Shaki and Pique confirmed their split.
Speaker 2: We should have known something was up when she was
Speaker 2: promoting the music video for Can't Remember to Forget You.
Speaker 1: Oh I forgot about that, but yes, she shared this.
Speaker 1: He's very territorial and since he no longer lets me
Speaker 1: do videos with men, Well, I have to do them
Speaker 1: with women. It's more implied in our relationship that I
Speaker 1: can't do videos like I used.
Speaker 2: To controlling, trying to cage our loba h.
Speaker 1: Shakira was determined to make it work. She sacrificed her identity,
Speaker 1: her country, her hot men in the videos, and her
Speaker 1: career for him. And also Pique was just kind of
Speaker 1: known for being a total party boy.
Speaker 2: I mean kind of like to me. Anyways, the man
Speaker 2: liked to step out and not just out on the town.
Speaker 1: Okay, on one of those boys' nights out, PK meets
Speaker 1: glad at Chia Marti and y'all please don't at her.
Speaker 1: Don't look her up on Twitter or Instagram. She's had
Speaker 1: enough heat from the rest of us. But anyway, paparazzi
Speaker 1: caught wind of the two and basically said she was
Speaker 1: quote unquote younger. Eh gross, and you know what I
Speaker 1: saw the photos. I'm just gonna say she was a
Speaker 1: budget Shakira.
Speaker 2: It's giving a cliche.
Speaker 1: It's getting tired. And insiders told The Sun.
Speaker 2: Wait wait wait, the literal Sun or PK no.
Speaker 1: The news outlet. They reported that p K offered Clara
Speaker 1: a job at his company, after meeting her at a nightclub.
Speaker 1: And get this, his boys helped him keep the affair
Speaker 1: on secret. Shut your but this is giving me Vander
Speaker 1: Pump rules, Tom Schwartz, and Tom Sandoval all over again.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't just his boys that helped cover it up,
Speaker 1: so did his mama.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's always the swaggrass.
Speaker 1: And soon their marriage began to unravel.
Speaker 2: Shakita was going through a difficult time and her boy
Speaker 2: was out there with the new boo. She went through
Speaker 2: her hemorrhage.
Speaker 1: Scare, plus the tax fraud accusations.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, can you give the people at home listening
Speaker 2: a quick rundown of all that drama?
Speaker 1: Yes, but I need another coffee for this, so we'll
Speaker 1: be right back after this little cafe seat the break, okay.
Speaker 1: Shakira versus Los Conquistellons the cliff notes. The Spanish government
Speaker 1: charged Shakira with defrauding the country of fourteen point five
Speaker 1: million euros in taxes that's roughly about fourteen million American
Speaker 1: dollars between twenty twelve and twenty fourteen. They're claiming that
Speaker 1: she was a legal resident of Espagna during that time,
Speaker 1: but our Lobita claims that she was living in the
Speaker 1: Bahamas and didn't really move to Barcelona until twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: So if convicted, Shaki could be facing eight years behind
Speaker 1: bars and a twenty three point seven million euro fine.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of money an album that is going
Speaker 2: to be a good album now.
Speaker 1: When asked about the situation during an interview with Lle,
Speaker 1: here's what she responded. I have to fight for what
Speaker 1: I believe because these are false accusations. First of all,
Speaker 1: I did spend one hundred and eighty three days per
Speaker 1: year at that time at all, I was busy fulfilling
Speaker 1: my professional commitments around the world. Yeah, bitches, Okay, she
Speaker 1: didn't say that. I said that. Second, I've paid everything
Speaker 1: they claimed I owed, even before they filed a lawsuit,
Speaker 1: so as of today, I owe zero to them. And finally,
Speaker 1: I was advised by one of the four biggest tax
Speaker 1: specialist firms in the world. Yes, Shakira, you drop Price
Speaker 1: Waterhouse Coopers.
Speaker 3: So I was.
Speaker 1: Confident that I was doing things correctly and transparently from
Speaker 1: day one.
Speaker 2: Okay, Wow, none of this really seems fair to me, right,
Speaker 2: It's just crazy.
Speaker 1: Listen, they need the money, we all do. But I'm
Speaker 1: sure there is way more to this story. We just
Speaker 1: don't have an entire investigative podcast team on the trail.
Speaker 1: But wait, Joseph, hold on, should we?
Speaker 2: This is all too much for my brain and my heart.
Speaker 2: I can't. Plus, Pika had the balls to be tossing
Speaker 2: his around with another woman. Hell to the no.
Speaker 1: And how she found out about the amanthe y'all, it
Speaker 1: is straight out of a bad rom com. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you how it happened. Shaki goes away on tour
Speaker 1: and when she comes back, she opens her fridge for
Speaker 1: a little late night snack, only to find that her
Speaker 1: favorite strawberry jam had been eaten her what ough men
Speaker 1: never notice details? So Shakira noticed that her favorite strawberry
Speaker 1: jam it was gone. Someone had eaten it. No big
Speaker 1: deal normally, right, But here's this. Pike doesn't eat strawberry jam.
Speaker 1: He's on these special diets and he can't eat it.
Speaker 1: And her little boys, well, they hate it.
Speaker 2: Some sneaky link had been up in her house. Nobody
Speaker 2: touches Shacki's jam.
Speaker 1: And all jokes aside, this was a heartbreaking time for her.
Speaker 2: There was the tax fraud Hurstwegara Brucha, who gave her
Speaker 2: the whack ass haircut advice, and now her ex partner
Speaker 2: was gallivanting around Basia with the other woman.
Speaker 1: During interviews with El Lunivision and Rolling Stone, she got
Speaker 1: super vulnerable, simply sharing that this is the darkest hour
Speaker 1: of her life.
Speaker 2: She was so honest and upfront about it all, saying
Speaker 2: many of us unfortunately grow up believing that we need
Speaker 2: a man to complete us, that you need the man
Speaker 2: the family to be considered a true woman, And sadly,
Speaker 2: like many, she bought into the whole fantasy.
Speaker 1: And we can all agree that it is not easy
Speaker 1: to end such a big public relationship, especially when children
Speaker 1: are involved. So Shakira major Ard promise that they were
Speaker 1: going to wait out any kind of public announcement for
Speaker 1: a year for the sake of their kids, Sasha and Milan.
Speaker 2: But glad Ambique had their own plans. They trolled CHECKI
Speaker 2: toa by kis kissing in public and posting pictures together online.
Speaker 1: I hate them like I literally hate them. So Shaquia
Speaker 1: did what bitch had to do.
Speaker 2: She entered her singles era she single. She's releasing those
Speaker 2: singles and spilling all the tea with her masterful lyrics.
Speaker 1: The Felicito with Rau A Lejandro with Ozuna and TQG
Speaker 1: with fellow Columbiana and our girl Crush Forever love Her
Speaker 1: Harold g.
Speaker 2: All in Spanish so p K can understand every word and.
Speaker 1: The lyrics are so good. It's one of those times
Speaker 1: when I wish people all spoke Spanish because translating them
Speaker 1: just doesn't do it justice. I don't know. Take some
Speaker 1: dual lingos so you can listen to the song in Spanish.
Speaker 2: Between Monotonia and TQG. Shakita released the disk track to
Speaker 2: end all dis tracks.
Speaker 1: Mind you, he was also a classy I know, I know,
Speaker 1: it was a lot of shade, but she kind of
Speaker 1: held back. Our girl's a class act and it's been
Speaker 1: years since Shukid has been her true artistic self. Remember,
Speaker 1: Pik had a lot of rules and opinions.
Speaker 2: Once they were done, she was free to collaborate with
Speaker 2: male artists again. When the bezer Rap session came out,
Speaker 2: everything was out in the open.
Speaker 1: If anyone ever cheats on me, warning Patrick, I'm stealing
Speaker 1: a page from Shakir's book.
Speaker 2: Bitch wrote the playbook on calling out all of these
Speaker 2: trifling men.
Speaker 1: She sure did.
Speaker 2: But for the people like me who are catching up
Speaker 2: on all of this drama, who on earth is bizer App?
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you asked.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: He is an Argentine DJ and a record producer, and
Speaker 1: he's really known for doing a lot of Latin trap
Speaker 1: or rap and mixing in a little bit of edim
Speaker 1: and he is so well known for these music sessions,
Speaker 1: they're like legendary. And he has this way of bringing
Speaker 1: out really raw emotions from artists like Messi Dente Viano
Speaker 1: a piano and now shook Kira. And if you guys
Speaker 1: have not actually watched the video for the song, I
Speaker 1: highly encourage you to find it on YouTube because like,
Speaker 1: listening to it is one experience, but watching her look
Speaker 1: dead into that camera and sing like she does not
Speaker 1: care about any of us. She is literally singing this
Speaker 1: straight type que am I right, yeah. And I think
Speaker 1: oftentimes with Shakira's videos were like, oh, we want some huge,
Speaker 1: like over dramatic production, like rolling in a bed with Rihanna,
Speaker 1: like turning into a mermaid. No no, no, no, no
Speaker 1: no no. This video is raw and real because that's
Speaker 1: exactly yeah, that's what the song is. And there's so
Speaker 1: many good little like singers in there from her like
Speaker 1: she says made heesta de vesina la suegra. So that
Speaker 1: means that you left your mom as my neighbor. Because again,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys know this, but Shakira
Speaker 1: literally lives like across the way from Pik's mom. But
Speaker 1: I think my favorite line las mohs yo yoran las
Speaker 1: mohees fact durdan, it's Soka. She's like, I'm not crying
Speaker 1: for you, bitch, I'm getting paid with this song, print
Speaker 1: print ching ching oh loo.
Speaker 2: Well, my favorite line, because since you're saying your favorite line,
Speaker 2: I tell you mine ivo viste mas dura like you
Speaker 2: think you hurt me, but you made me stronger. I
Speaker 2: felt that shit.
Speaker 1: And as we're here translating these lyrics, so was everybody
Speaker 1: else watching this video, because everybody, whether you spoke Spanish
Speaker 1: or English, wanted in on that chiement.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it, Benito's impact there. I said it.
Speaker 1: No, you're one thousand percent right for sure, and I
Speaker 1: can't believe that we've left out the mastermind behind this collaboration. oOoOO,
Speaker 1: this may surprise you, But Milan wait.
Speaker 2: Like Christina Milian or Milan, her son.
Speaker 1: Her son. Shakira says that her ten year old son
Speaker 1: had been telling her for months to work with bizrab
Speaker 1: and he even sent Shakira's manager of voice note telling
Speaker 1: him to make it happen.
Speaker 2: Come through Miho Milan getting your mom on the best
Speaker 2: breakup song ever.
Speaker 1: And Shakira was all over it. She did not hold
Speaker 1: back any punches. She even took a swing at that
Speaker 1: ex Suegra with the help of a bruja. Here's what
Speaker 1: Twitter had to say about that move. Shakira setting up
Speaker 1: a witch mannequin on her balcony to face her ex
Speaker 1: mother in law's house while blasting her Gerard PK distract
Speaker 1: at full volume is the exact setty standard we should
Speaker 1: all aspire to in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Three, Like Wow, for all you non Latinos, there is
Speaker 2: no coming back from that punch.
Speaker 1: No, like you go for the Swegura like it's a jugular,
Speaker 1: It's over over and this track with Bizarrap actually broke
Speaker 1: over fourteen Guinness World Records.
Speaker 3: Wow, Lobot status activated and before anyone listening dms us
Speaker 3: or emails us telling us that she's being immature or
Speaker 3: acting out.
Speaker 1: Just take a second. Put yourself in her shoes for
Speaker 1: just a minute.
Speaker 2: Also, there's a video of PIC's mom grabbing Shaki by
Speaker 2: the face. I'm not saying she deserves it, but I'm
Speaker 2: also not not saying it.
Speaker 1: And if this one music session is any indication of
Speaker 1: what's to come, we are in for some good old
Speaker 1: fashioned female rage with the upcoming album.
Speaker 2: I need a minute to come down from that cheeth Mahai,
Speaker 2: bring me back.
Speaker 1: Okay, breathe in out, in out the must Now, let's
Speaker 1: slip things down, reset and take it back to where
Speaker 1: it all started. Her music.
Speaker 2: Hey, don't forget her sainthood.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of hard to really understand the
Speaker 1: depth of her artistry until you really dissected album by album,
Speaker 1: moment by moment. She was truly ahead of her time,
Speaker 1: and it's an incredible gift to see the progression and
Speaker 1: the evolution of the music industry through a career as
Speaker 1: illustrious as Shakira's.
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone will be able to recreate her
Speaker 2: magic like ever.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a bad thing. I mean, there
Speaker 1: are so many amazing new performers coming into their own
Speaker 1: right now who are inspired by her creativity and driven
Speaker 1: by her commitment to pure artistry. But they're standing on
Speaker 1: their own sound as style. It's exactly what Shakira would
Speaker 1: have wanted for them.
Speaker 2: Unique voices with so much to say to the world
Speaker 2: through their mut.
Speaker 1: On the next Becoming an Icon.
Speaker 2: Can't get enough of that shock et neither can we,
Speaker 2: so we'll.
Speaker 1: Be diving into all the recent headlines with our pop
Speaker 1: culture expert and breaking down Shakira's moved to Miami. There's
Speaker 1: so much, so much to discuss. Becoming an Icon is
Speaker 1: presented by Sonoo and Iheart's Michael Duda podcast Network. Listen
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