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Speaker 2: Hey, but it's not over until you get her to

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Speaker 2: come to my Quadenttanieta.

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Speaker 1: Sorry to disappoint you, but that's.

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Speaker 2: Not ever give up.

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Speaker 1: Yes, like Shakira, she never gave up, and she conquered

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Speaker 1: it all, from her Telenovella obscurity to those regrettable nineties

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Speaker 2: The same girl who wasn't good enough to join her

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Speaker 1: She had the Pope as an audience, along with some

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Speaker 2: Saint Shakira the People's Latin princessa.

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Speaker 1: And if that wasn't enough, she was also collaborating with

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Speaker 2: She was able to experiment with her sound no matter

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Speaker 1: And while others may have had to sacrifice all of

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Speaker 1: make room for her. She survived disappointment, setbacks, and heartbreak.

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Speaker 2: I'm a survivor.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give up. I'm not gonna stop Kolkata.

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Speaker 2: She even survived the benches, self doubt and realized that

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Speaker 1: She was in love, she was starting a family. She

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Speaker 2: But just when we thought the fairy tale was reaching

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Speaker 2: its happily ever after, a new dragon appeared to burn

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Speaker 2: it all down.

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Speaker 1: On today's episode, you'll hear all about the terrifying emergency

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Speaker 1: that almost ended her career, the making of El Dorado,

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Speaker 1: and we'll go beyond the tabloid headlines for a closer

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Speaker 1: look at the demise of her decade long relationship with

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Speaker 1: soccer star Gerard Pique. I'm your host, Liliana Oosquez.

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Speaker 2: And I'm Joseph Carrio and This is Becoming an Icon.

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Speaker 1: A weekly podcast where we give you the rundown on

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Speaker 1: how today's most famous LATINV stars have shaped pop culture.

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Speaker 2: And given the world some extra tubble.

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Speaker 1: Sit back and get comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Because we are going in the only way we know how.

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Speaker 1: With Buena's leave us usas and a lot of opinions

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Speaker 1: as we relive their greatest achievements on our journey to

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Speaker 1: find out what makes them so iconic. So we had

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Speaker 1: you full, Tom, You didn't really think We're going to

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Speaker 1: do a whole series of shows on Shakira and leave

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Speaker 1: out this collaboration.

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Speaker 2: The song that gaves cigars smoking a bed, romping Shakda

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Speaker 2: and really, how did this collab even happen?

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Speaker 1: Well, as the story goes, Once upon a time in

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Speaker 1: twenty ten, Shakira had just released Salle Sol. While promoting it,

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Speaker 1: she teased that she was already working on her upcoming album.

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Speaker 2: Rumors immediately started.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so going back, It's December twenty thirteen and their

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Speaker 1: rumor mill claim Shakira and Rihanna were working together on

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Speaker 1: a duet. That was followed up by claims that Shakira

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Speaker 1: was filming a music video and that Rihanna had been

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Speaker 2: Than Pitbull mister worldwide spilling secrets.

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Speaker 1: Yeh He was on a radio show for an interview

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Speaker 1: and he mentioned Rihanna couldn't do the feature for Timber

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Speaker 1: because she was busy working with Shakira.

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Speaker 2: Oh but it she's most so steadig lo and bold.

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Speaker 1: After four years, the song was released in January twenty

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Speaker 2: And it became an unforgettable hit.

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Speaker 1: So I know your feelings on this song, but you

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Speaker 1: and I differ on our passion for this.

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Speaker 2: Song because you is a hating as a bin.

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Speaker 1: You know, there are certain songs out there that on

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Speaker 1: in their infectiousness. This song, for me personally, is not

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Speaker 2: That's just kind of where we differ. You heard the

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Speaker 1: It's just one of those songs that for me needed

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Speaker 2: It's fun, it's relatable, and it's the lyrics. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I feel attacked, gagged, I'm living. The behind the scenes

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Speaker 2: of this video really really takes me back. We're in

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Speaker 2: twenty fourteen again. It's like my favorite ear and Rihanna

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Speaker 2: is still releasing music. I mean, talk about a blast

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Speaker 1: I know it still hurts. I don't know when the

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Speaker 1: it was actually a nightmare to shoot with Shatki.

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Speaker 2: What tell us how you really feel, Rihanna?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I did you all a little dirty there?

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Speaker 1: Let me explain. Let me explain. What she was saying

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Speaker 2: We do love a humble queen, but Rihanna is a goddess.

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Speaker 1: She is, and Rihanna also shared that it was an

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Speaker 2: We should have got her to do this episode with us.

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Speaker 2: Should we call her?

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Speaker 1: Do you have her number?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? But I'm not allowed to call her or be

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Speaker 2: And Chaquida saying her praises right back, she said Rihanna is,

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Speaker 2: without a doubt, the sexiest woman she's ever met. The

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Speaker 2: two are an inspiring combo bound to make the Machia.

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Speaker 2: They were able to blend it all together, reggae and

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Speaker 1: You know, at times it feels like Shakira works best

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Speaker 1: artists that she's admired for a long time, like the.

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Speaker 2: Lead vocalist and guitarist of Soda Stereo, Gustavo Sarati. Soda Stereo,

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Speaker 2: for all of our listeners that may not know them,

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Speaker 1: We're talking bigger than Green Day. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: let's just say it. And by the way, all when

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Speaker 1: this episode ends, not now, when it ends, google Coldplay

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Speaker 1: and Soda Stereo for a little intro class into their musika.

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Speaker 2: Also, Chris Martin speaks in decent Espanol.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he's very sexy when he sings in Spanish. Not

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Speaker 1: I don't know, the Spanish just took it to a

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Speaker 2: It's sexy. Yeah, ma man.

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Speaker 1: Chris Shaki loved Sarati and soon they were close and

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Speaker 1: frequent collaborators. She said of him, you can tell his

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Speaker 1: influence over me. You can tell I'm a sarathianaigski Yaosmi.

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Speaker 2: Did she make his name into an identity?

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Speaker 1: She totally did. I kind of want that for myself.

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Speaker 2: Me too, My boo better say I'm a Gotti Joanna.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that doesn't really roll off the tongue as.

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Speaker 2: Well, bitch, I'm trying now.

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Speaker 1: My favorite song that they ever wrote together, it's called.

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Speaker 2: No Can I just say how much I love that? Song.

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Speaker 2: It's so powerful.

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Speaker 1: Just listen to these lyrics. Okay, I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: sing the lyrics, but listen to the words. No, don't

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Speaker 1: try to apologize. Don't insist as if it's just a game.

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Speaker 1: Excuses already existed before you came up with them. No,

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Speaker 1: don't look at me like you used to. Don't speak

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Speaker 1: in plural rhetoric is your most lethal weapon.

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Speaker 2: Okay, First of all, bitch, I could tell you were

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: In May of twenty ten, Sarati had a stroke and

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Speaker 1: would be in a coma for almost four years before

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Speaker 2: Just like with Gobbo before, Shakido's always searching for collaborators

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Speaker 1: And Saradi was one of the biggest influences of her career.

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Speaker 2: When news of his passing got to Shakida, she dedicated

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Speaker 1: Her wishful words when presenting the single were the following,

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Speaker 1: It's the first time I'm singing this song officially. This

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Speaker 1: I wanted to dedicate to my great friend Gustavo set

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Speaker 2: Not to worry, my DearS. Not all was lost in

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Speaker 1: In twenty fourteen, Shakira shared this, I would love to

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Speaker 1: By now, Shakira had packed up and was living with

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Speaker 2: Red Flag.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy that you said this because this action

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent, Like why would she have to take

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Speaker 1: And when your partners in a life together, why does

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Speaker 1: achieved career goals. And you know what, I feel like

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Speaker 1: it often happens in entertainment. I mean, think about women

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Speaker 2: Well, I want to ask you a really quick question.

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Speaker 2: It's like, you know, right now, I know you are

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Speaker 1: Much like bad Bunnies as the almost been, this music

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Speaker 2: It sparked something, Henny because she was writing again.

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Speaker 1: She really doesn't stop none of our icons. Do you

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Miami, Dmbnathos, I'm Miami, and welcome to Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl fifty four. It's the performance that will not die

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Speaker 1: It, you can count on that. And the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: It also happened to be Shakira's forty third birthday.

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Speaker 2: You know, Shakida's no stranger to sharing the spotlight with

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Speaker 1: During their joint press conference, Jlo shared her experience growing

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Speaker 2: But both women agreed on one thing. The Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: To perform on a global stage of that magnitude was

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Speaker 2: And yet there she was opening what would quickly become

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Speaker 1: Can we do a quick fit chat. I feel like

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Speaker 2: Shakita rat unplugged truly gave me back her Shakda rocker

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Speaker 1: Love this look. I mean, for a lot of people,

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Speaker 2: Sexy Shakira and La Toura. I can't even describe it.

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Speaker 2: Her hair is preasy and the video is is just everything.

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Speaker 2: This is a sexy Shakida that I absolutely fell refell

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Speaker 1: She looked so sexy in this She's wearing this black

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Speaker 1: knotted T shirt with a bikini underneath, and then she's

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00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 1: got this like black mini skirt, and of course she

436
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,479
Speaker 1: has her signature blonde hair. She had already transitioned from

437
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: the red into the blonde, but it was covered in

438
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: black paint and it was a pinnacle sexy Shakira for sure, totally.

439
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: And finally, the most iconic performance look of all time.

440
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: Let's call it what it is. This is icon Shakira,

441
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: of course, naturally at the super Bowl. And I cheated

442
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: because it's technically three looks in one by Peter Dunda.

443
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 1: I know, I cheated. And of course the first one

444
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: was like this red Sarasky crystal set. When she's asked

445
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: about the show, she talks about how this red symbolizes

446
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: fire and passion and it's been a signature color for

447
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: her in many performances. She loves to wear like that

448
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: really vibrant red. But this was, yeah, it is. And

449
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: this was like a two piece skirt set, had a

450
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: boustier top, it had a removable corset, and then out

451
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: of nowhere, it transformed into a second look, which was

452
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: that like beautiful fringe and feathered skirt that was hidden

453
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: under her sarong.

454
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 2: It's like.

455
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: So right, it's like Transformers fashion. But then it gives

456
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: way to her third and final look from the super

457
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: Bowl performance, which was that gilded gold set, and that

458
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: gold was meant to represent celebration and also symbolize the

459
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: champion that is Shakira. To be honest, there's so many

460
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: good performance looks to choose from, and I actually prefer

461
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: Shakira in performance looks rather than red carpet looks. I

462
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: feel like she's not as comfortable on a carpet as

463
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: she is on a stage, and it shows because she

464
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: like turns it up for her performances.

465
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: But her performance outfits are insanity Caine. Wow. You know.

466
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: I think she's just more comfortable dressing up and kind

467
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,479
Speaker 1: of like channeling this altere version of herself on stage,

468
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: whereas in real life I think she's super cash Like.

469
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: I think she's literally like bisskussles in her house in

470
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: jeans and a T shirt.

471
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: Like that tank top end the low jeans because she's

472
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: that girl.

473
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: Oh, she is all about a low rise. She'd never

474
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: left the low rise, honey, And if I had a

475
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: stomach like that, I wouldn't either. Joseph algom Pica, Oh.

476
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: Girl, I have been sharpening these nights. Let's go.

477
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: Shakira and Pikue they were everywhere. Forbes named them one

478
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: of the world's most powerful couples. Singers were shouting them

479
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: out in songs. She described their romance as passionate and exciting.

480
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: You kinda watch out for those and you guys.

481
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: They first met on the music video set for Waka Waka.

482
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 1: The video featured several famous soccer players like Dani Alves,

483
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: Carlos Kameni, Lionel Messi, and Raphael Markets.

484
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 2: So Gerard wasn't that special.

485
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: I mean, Shakira had no clue who pik was, but

486
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: that didn't stop her from thinking, you know, he was

487
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: cute and strategically sharing that little tidbit with the right people.

488
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: We'll explain you. See, Shakira was at the FIFA World

489
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: Cup in May of twenty ten. Now file that date

490
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: away for later, okay. So pi k was arriving to

491
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: the World Cup after her, and of course he needed

492
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: to know what to pack, so he texted one of

493
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: the hottest and most talented women in the world to

494
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: ask her about the weather. The other has this man

495
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: never heard of? Google? Alexa Siri? Like, I don't know

496
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: pick your virtual assistant. It's so lame, so lame, and

497
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 1: he knew that he had zero game, so the only

498
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: way to see her and actually get her to agree

499
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: to a date with him was to win the whole

500
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: damn Cup.

501
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 2: Excuse me a fact check time. At this moment in time,

502
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: Shakio was dating the Laua. She was not even available.

503
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I know.

504
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: So.

505
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: In August twenty ten, Shakira and Antonio confirmed they were done,

506
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 1: so immediately after Shakiro was spotted with Gerard. Even though

507
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: they kept claiming they were just friends, they.

508
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 2: Made their relationship social media official in front of God

509
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: and Facebook the summer with a photo and the caption.

510
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: Was leespresento amisol aka, I present to you my son.

511
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 2: Salle el sool. Oh shit, it's all adding up.

512
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: Well it did for almost a decade, and of course

513
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: two babies later. But in June of twenty twenty two,

514
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: Shaki and Pique confirmed their split.

515
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: We should have known something was up when she was

516
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 2: promoting the music video for Can't Remember to Forget You.

517
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: Oh I forgot about that, but yes, she shared this.

518
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: He's very territorial and since he no longer lets me

519
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: do videos with men, Well, I have to do them

520
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: with women. It's more implied in our relationship that I

521
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: can't do videos like I used.

522
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: To controlling, trying to cage our loba h.

523
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: Shakira was determined to make it work. She sacrificed her identity,

524
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,239
Speaker 1: her country, her hot men in the videos, and her

525
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: career for him. And also Pique was just kind of

526
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: known for being a total party boy.

527
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: I mean kind of like to me. Anyways, the man

528
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: liked to step out and not just out on the town.

529
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: Okay, on one of those boys' nights out, PK meets

530
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: glad at Chia Marti and y'all please don't at her.

531
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: Don't look her up on Twitter or Instagram. She's had

532
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: enough heat from the rest of us. But anyway, paparazzi

533
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: caught wind of the two and basically said she was

534
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: quote unquote younger. Eh gross, and you know what I

535
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: saw the photos. I'm just gonna say she was a

536
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: budget Shakira.

537
00:29:58,760 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: It's giving a cliche.

538
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: It's getting tired. And insiders told The Sun.

539
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: Wait wait wait, the literal Sun or PK no.

540
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: The news outlet. They reported that p K offered Clara

541
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: a job at his company, after meeting her at a nightclub.

542
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: And get this, his boys helped him keep the affair

543
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: on secret. Shut your but this is giving me Vander

544
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: Pump rules, Tom Schwartz, and Tom Sandoval all over again.

545
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: And it wasn't just his boys that helped cover it up,

546
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: so did his mama.

547
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's always the swaggrass.

548
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: And soon their marriage began to unravel.

549
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: Shakita was going through a difficult time and her boy

550
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: was out there with the new boo. She went through

551
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: her hemorrhage.

552
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: Scare, plus the tax fraud accusations.

553
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, can you give the people at home listening

554
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: a quick rundown of all that drama?

555
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: Yes, but I need another coffee for this, so we'll

556
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: be right back after this little cafe seat the break, okay.

557
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: Shakira versus Los Conquistellons the cliff notes. The Spanish government

558
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: charged Shakira with defrauding the country of fourteen point five

559
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: million euros in taxes that's roughly about fourteen million American

560
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: dollars between twenty twelve and twenty fourteen. They're claiming that

561
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: she was a legal resident of Espagna during that time,

562
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: but our Lobita claims that she was living in the

563
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: Bahamas and didn't really move to Barcelona until twenty fifteen.

564
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: So if convicted, Shaki could be facing eight years behind

565
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: bars and a twenty three point seven million euro fine.

566
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: That's a lot of money an album that is going

567
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: to be a good album now.

568
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: When asked about the situation during an interview with Lle,

569
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: here's what she responded. I have to fight for what

570
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: I believe because these are false accusations. First of all,

571
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: I did spend one hundred and eighty three days per

572
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: year at that time at all, I was busy fulfilling

573
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: my professional commitments around the world. Yeah, bitches, Okay, she

574
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: didn't say that. I said that. Second, I've paid everything

575
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: they claimed I owed, even before they filed a lawsuit,

576
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: so as of today, I owe zero to them. And finally,

577
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: I was advised by one of the four biggest tax

578
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: specialist firms in the world. Yes, Shakira, you drop Price

579
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: Waterhouse Coopers.

580
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: So I was.

581
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: Confident that I was doing things correctly and transparently from

582
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: day one.

583
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: Okay, Wow, none of this really seems fair to me, right,

584
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: It's just crazy.

585
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: Listen, they need the money, we all do. But I'm

586
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: sure there is way more to this story. We just

587
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: don't have an entire investigative podcast team on the trail.

588
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: But wait, Joseph, hold on, should we?

589
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: This is all too much for my brain and my heart.

590
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: I can't. Plus, Pika had the balls to be tossing

591
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: his around with another woman. Hell to the no.

592
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: And how she found out about the amanthe y'all, it

593
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: is straight out of a bad rom com. Let me

594
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: tell you how it happened. Shaki goes away on tour

595
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: and when she comes back, she opens her fridge for

596
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: a little late night snack, only to find that her

597
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: favorite strawberry jam had been eaten her what ough men

598
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: never notice details? So Shakira noticed that her favorite strawberry

599
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: jam it was gone. Someone had eaten it. No big

600
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: deal normally, right, But here's this. Pike doesn't eat strawberry jam.

601
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: He's on these special diets and he can't eat it.

602
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: And her little boys, well, they hate it.

603
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: Some sneaky link had been up in her house. Nobody

604
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: touches Shacki's jam.

605
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,239
Speaker 1: And all jokes aside, this was a heartbreaking time for her.

606
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: There was the tax fraud Hurstwegara Brucha, who gave her

607
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: the whack ass haircut advice, and now her ex partner

608
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: was gallivanting around Basia with the other woman.

609
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: During interviews with El Lunivision and Rolling Stone, she got

610
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: super vulnerable, simply sharing that this is the darkest hour

611
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 1: of her life.

612
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: She was so honest and upfront about it all, saying

613
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: many of us unfortunately grow up believing that we need

614
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 2: a man to complete us, that you need the man

615
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: the family to be considered a true woman, And sadly,

616
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 2: like many, she bought into the whole fantasy.

617
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: And we can all agree that it is not easy

618
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: to end such a big public relationship, especially when children

619
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: are involved. So Shakira major Ard promise that they were

620
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: going to wait out any kind of public announcement for

621
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 1: a year for the sake of their kids, Sasha and Milan.

622
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: But glad Ambique had their own plans. They trolled CHECKI

623
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: toa by kis kissing in public and posting pictures together online.

624
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: I hate them like I literally hate them. So Shaquia

625
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: did what bitch had to do.

626
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: She entered her singles era she single. She's releasing those

627
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: singles and spilling all the tea with her masterful lyrics.

628
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: The Felicito with Rau A Lejandro with Ozuna and TQG

629
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: with fellow Columbiana and our girl Crush Forever love Her

630
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: Harold g.

631
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 2: All in Spanish so p K can understand every word and.

632
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: The lyrics are so good. It's one of those times

633
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: when I wish people all spoke Spanish because translating them

634
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: just doesn't do it justice. I don't know. Take some

635
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: dual lingos so you can listen to the song in Spanish.

636
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: Between Monotonia and TQG. Shakita released the disk track to

637
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: end all dis tracks.

638
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: Mind you, he was also a classy I know, I know,

639
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: it was a lot of shade, but she kind of

640
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: held back. Our girl's a class act and it's been

641
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: years since Shukid has been her true artistic self. Remember,

642
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 1: Pik had a lot of rules and opinions.

643
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: Once they were done, she was free to collaborate with

644
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 2: male artists again. When the bezer Rap session came out,

645
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 2: everything was out in the open.

646
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: If anyone ever cheats on me, warning Patrick, I'm stealing

647
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: a page from Shakir's book.

648
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: Bitch wrote the playbook on calling out all of these

649
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: trifling men.

650
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: She sure did.

651
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: But for the people like me who are catching up

652
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: on all of this drama, who on earth is bizer App?

653
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you asked.

654
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: So.

655
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: He is an Argentine DJ and a record producer, and

656
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 1: he's really known for doing a lot of Latin trap

657
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: or rap and mixing in a little bit of edim

658
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: and he is so well known for these music sessions,

659
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: they're like legendary. And he has this way of bringing

660
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: out really raw emotions from artists like Messi Dente Viano

661
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: a piano and now shook Kira. And if you guys

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00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: have not actually watched the video for the song, I

663
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: highly encourage you to find it on YouTube because like,

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00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: listening to it is one experience, but watching her look

665
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: dead into that camera and sing like she does not

666
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: care about any of us. She is literally singing this

667
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: straight type que am I right, yeah. And I think

668
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: oftentimes with Shakira's videos were like, oh, we want some huge,

669
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: like over dramatic production, like rolling in a bed with Rihanna,

670
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: like turning into a mermaid. No no, no, no, no

671
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 1: no no. This video is raw and real because that's

672
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: exactly yeah, that's what the song is. And there's so

673
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: many good little like singers in there from her like

674
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: she says made heesta de vesina la suegra. So that

675
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: means that you left your mom as my neighbor. Because again,

676
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys know this, but Shakira

677
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: literally lives like across the way from Pik's mom. But

678
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: I think my favorite line las mohs yo yoran las

679
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: mohees fact durdan, it's Soka. She's like, I'm not crying

680
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: for you, bitch, I'm getting paid with this song, print

681
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: print ching ching oh loo.

682
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: Well, my favorite line, because since you're saying your favorite line,

683
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 2: I tell you mine ivo viste mas dura like you

684
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 2: think you hurt me, but you made me stronger. I

685
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: felt that shit.

686
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: And as we're here translating these lyrics, so was everybody

687
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: else watching this video, because everybody, whether you spoke Spanish

688
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: or English, wanted in on that chiement.

689
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it, Benito's impact there. I said it.

690
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: No, you're one thousand percent right for sure, and I

691
00:38:55,480 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: can't believe that we've left out the mastermind behind this collaboration. oOoOO,

692
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: this may surprise you, But Milan wait.

693
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: Like Christina Milian or Milan, her son.

694
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: Her son. Shakira says that her ten year old son

695
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: had been telling her for months to work with bizrab

696
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: and he even sent Shakira's manager of voice note telling

697
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 1: him to make it happen.

698
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 2: Come through Miho Milan getting your mom on the best

699
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: breakup song ever.

700
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: And Shakira was all over it. She did not hold

701
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: back any punches. She even took a swing at that

702
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: ex Suegra with the help of a bruja. Here's what

703
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: Twitter had to say about that move. Shakira setting up

704
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: a witch mannequin on her balcony to face her ex

705
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: mother in law's house while blasting her Gerard PK distract

706
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,479
Speaker 1: at full volume is the exact setty standard we should

707
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: all aspire to in twenty twenty.

708
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: Three, Like Wow, for all you non Latinos, there is

709
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: no coming back from that punch.

710
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: No, like you go for the Swegura like it's a jugular,

711
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: It's over over and this track with Bizarrap actually broke

712
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: over fourteen Guinness World Records.

713
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: Wow, Lobot status activated and before anyone listening dms us

714
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 3: or emails us telling us that she's being immature or

715
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 3: acting out.

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00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: Just take a second. Put yourself in her shoes for

717
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: just a minute.

718
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: Also, there's a video of PIC's mom grabbing Shaki by

719
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 2: the face. I'm not saying she deserves it, but I'm

720
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 2: also not not saying it.

721
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: And if this one music session is any indication of

722
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: what's to come, we are in for some good old

723
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: fashioned female rage with the upcoming album.

724
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 2: I need a minute to come down from that cheeth Mahai,

725
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 2: bring me back.

726
00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: Okay, breathe in out, in out the must Now, let's

727
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: slip things down, reset and take it back to where

728
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: it all started. Her music.

729
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: Hey, don't forget her sainthood.

730
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of hard to really understand the

731
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 1: depth of her artistry until you really dissected album by album,

732
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: moment by moment. She was truly ahead of her time,

733
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: and it's an incredible gift to see the progression and

734
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: the evolution of the music industry through a career as

735
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: illustrious as Shakira's.

736
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone will be able to recreate her

737
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: magic like ever.

738
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a bad thing. I mean, there

739
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: are so many amazing new performers coming into their own

740
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: right now who are inspired by her creativity and driven

741
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: by her commitment to pure artistry. But they're standing on

742
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: their own sound as style. It's exactly what Shakira would

743
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: have wanted for them.

744
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: Unique voices with so much to say to the world

745
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 2: through their mut.

746
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: On the next Becoming an Icon.

747
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 2: Can't get enough of that shock et neither can we,

748
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 2: so we'll.

749
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: Be diving into all the recent headlines with our pop

750
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: culture expert and breaking down Shakira's moved to Miami. There's

751
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: so much, so much to discuss. Becoming an Icon is

752
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 1: presented by Sonoo and Iheart's Michael Duda podcast Network. Listen

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00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 1: to Becoming an Icon on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast,

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00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcast