WEBVTT - My Favorite Cowboy - Chris Waldhaus 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:03.600 How old are you getting thrown from a horse every day? Really? Yeah? 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.040 How's your body handling that? Because no, you're not. How 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:07.880 old are you now? Are you forty? Close to forty? 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:10.560 Close to forty or you're not forty? Yeah? All right, 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:12.280 you can't keep flying off horses. 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:22.360 No coshha Cosh Shows Show Show. 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:29.440 Good morning. I'm Daniel Tosh, the host of Tosh Show. Eddie. 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:32.800 I hear you have got a video that you are 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:35.960 dying to show me so excited about this one. All right, 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:36.400 let's watch. 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:45.480 What did you do? 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:53.840 What happens? Oh? Now you just the fuck out of 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:58.160 your trou Did you do well? 0:00:58.200 --> 0:00:59.480 I know you felt Jack. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:03.760 Even the dog can barely walk. Thank god that truck 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:07.560 was there. Jeff would still be stumbling all the way 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.679 to the ocean. The most interesting thing about this video 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:17.479 is that they're probably thirty eight years old. Yeah. People 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:20.440 always say, oh, you look so young. No, no, I don't. 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:22.840 I don't look that young. I look forty nine. You 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:27.000 look old as shit. Maybe eat better, sleep more, do 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:32.600 some exercise. Gotta you gotta take care of yourself. Jeff 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:37.200 doesn't deserve to have that pickup truck. You know, you 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.480 need to be a man drive a pickup truck like that. 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:47.520 I don't pretend to be a man. That's the end 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:53.840 of that statement. When I'm in southern California, I'm barely 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.800 a man. When I head up north, when I get 0:01:56.800 --> 0:02:02.040 to the mountains, oh got my hatchet, my splitting mall. 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.560 That's when I become a man. Although I've never had 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:11.480 a chop wood yet. I you know, I had a cord. 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:16.960 It's been like five years. I haven't gone gone through 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:19.360 it yet. It's like, how much how much wood are 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:23.240 you supposed to burn? Me? And a man's tough. People 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:25.360 depend on you when you're a man. That's why I 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:28.840 always try to announce I'm barely a man. Let's get 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:33.079 the expectations back. Don't ask me to do things. I'll 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:36.680 call a man. I'll pay for a man to do 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:43.200 something me. No, I'm not the guy. You know. Sometimes 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.120 when I'm up in the cabin, the power will go 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:50.359 out and my generator won't turn on, and I go 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:54.560 out there with my little portable jumper and I hook 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.160 it up and I jump it and I get the 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:59.480 generator going and there's power in the house. And I'm like, 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.480 look at that. And then when the when the power 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:06.920 comes back, the generator turns off. Everything gets tripped in 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:09.320 the house. That's a pain. Then I gotta go to 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:12.120 the garage and I gotta undo this panel, and I 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:15.920 gotta flip this big this big switch. And every time 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:20.399 I flip it, it shocks this shit out of me. Oh, 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:22.919 but things I can't do. I mean that that list 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:26.480 is too long to go over. Protect my family, Nah, 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:30.880 can't do that. I can outrun them, you know, so 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:34.720 I can tell the story of what happened, Honor them 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:39.360 with a story, a tale to tell you. I could 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:45.800 learn a thing or two from today's guests. Enjoy. Pasha, 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.520 my guest today, has quite a life story. I'm going 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.240 to attempt to relate while he talks about some real 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.960 man shit like hunting for food and breaking wild horses. 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:58.520 At least we both love animals. 0:03:58.680 --> 0:03:58.800 Uh. 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:01.960 He's one of the best looking fells west of the Mississippi. 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:05.320 Please welcome Chris, Thank you, thank you for having me 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.360 touch Okay, this interviews can be all over the place. 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:12.440 Your life story is a fascinating Let's start that you 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.800 grew up on a reservation in Colorado. 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:18.080 Outside of Durrango, the Ute Reservation. Okay, my mom and 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.960 my dad kind of had a lot of turmoil, and 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.839 she went to the reservation and stayed there for help, 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:27.360 and so I ended up being born there. 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:28.640 We ended up growing up there. 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:31.920 We stayed there for probably maybe six years, and then 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.280 we moved to our own spot in Colorado off of 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:41.120 like Ute Trail, So we're in the sticks aspen. Yeah, 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.680 there's a lot of aspen trees there, but oh that 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.279 this wasn't aspen. I got you. 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:48.360 No on veil. You grew up in vil. 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:50.960 Outside of there too, No, I got you. You grew 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.360 up without electricity, No electricity? 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:53.960 How long? 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.520 No running water till we were about fourteen? We hunted 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:58.560 for our food. We got our water off the side 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:00.760 of a mountain, so it kind of to down into 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.239 this drainage pipe and we would collect it at the pipe. 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:05.599 How did you take hot showers? No? Hot showers? You 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.920 never had a hot shower. We had hot baths. How 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:08.720 did you Okay, we. 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.080 Put the water over it like a fire and warmed 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:12.679 it up and then put it in you know those. 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:14.720 They were cooking you. Yeah? 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:17.320 Do you know those kettles? It's like a almost like 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:19.960 a stew kettle. You just basically boil some hot water 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:22.120 in there and throw it in the tub. I mean 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:26.600 we washed our clothes with a washboard. We had an outhouse, 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:30.559 had a fruit cellar. Basically grew up off the land, 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:35.920 like eating cactail, roots and dandelions and just weird stuff, you. 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.680 Know, everything that you can eat. When quite a bit. 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.760 My mom was really like savvy when it came to 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:46.200 picking fruit and just different stuff like roots and berries. 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:47.719 It was pretty interesting. What about school? 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:50.440 Homeschooled all the way up until about sixth grade. 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:54.280 Legally homeschooled. My sister was the teacher. Okay, so not 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:57.640 legally homeschooled. No, anybody pop in and he visits it 0:05:57.680 --> 0:05:58.160 from like. 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:02.320 No interestingly enough. I mean we were so far out. 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.120 I don't even think they knew we were out there. 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:05.440 So I don't even know he existed. 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:07.599 Yeah, they didn't even know. How many siblings? Did you have? 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:12.960 Eight of us? Eighty seven? Yeah, five sisters and two brothers. 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:14.960 It's a lot of people. I mean it's like a 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:18.440 school it was. Did you guys get Comedy Central? No, 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:22.440 it's a shame. Are are you part of Native American? Yeah? 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.719 So my mother, my mother is African American, Native American. 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:29.080 Her mother's Cherokee and her father's African American. My father 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.640 is German and Native American. So his father's German and 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:36.440 his mother's Hopey. So maybe like fifty close to fifty percent. 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.200 Are Are you getting a government check or no? No? 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:40.919 By choice? 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:47.320 I never applied, never got oney. It takes too much paperwork. 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:51.960 I don't care that you're owed. Yeah, no, what's the 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:53.440 amount that they do? You even know the amount that 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:53.800 they give? 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:55.760 I have no idea. I'm gonna ask you to talk 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:58.640 about your stepfather. Now. I'm gonna turn the microphone off 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:00.480 and just listen to the next hour because I think 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.840 it's fascinating. Yeah. What an interesting guy. Right. 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:07.279 Have you ever seen Davy Crockett, like the movie? I 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:10.320 just know of Davy Crockett, like the movie, like the No. 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:12.520 I never watched The King of the Final Frontier. 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:12.960 Uh huh. 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.760 Yeah. So Dave was like Davy Crockett. I mean he 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.640 was super ingenuitive is the best word I could give it. 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:21.840 He he never told us what he did, but where 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:24.680 we lived, he had us like sifting for gold, you 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:26.080 know how when you get into the river and you 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.600 can kind of sift. We always found like these little 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.360 tiny specks of gold, and we were kids, so we 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.520 had no idea what fools gold was. But he'd like 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.240 come up with these big fools gold nuggets and be like, yeah, 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.040 I'm going to town to turn in the gold. But 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.920 he was actually a meth cooker, oh and. 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.280 So much different than a prospector. 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:52.720 So he would disappear for like weeks and then come 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:56.000 back and bring groceries and we would get cool stuff 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.160 from town because most of the time we were eating rabbit. 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.400 Was he making the meth on your Honestly, I really 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:03.840 don't know, but he didn't have I'm pretty sure he 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:07.560 was because he didn't have any teeth. He always had 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:11.360 ether and mercury, just weird stuff. I mean, we played 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:12.800 with that kind of stuff as a kid. I remember 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:14.960 the mercury thought was cool because you could like spread 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.920 it out and it would come together. And then Terminator 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:19.880 came out and we saw that they were using mercury 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:21.120 to make that terminator guy. 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:23.760 You know, as kids do when you're playing with mercury. 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:27.560 He had a lot of ether too. Our dogs would 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.960 always get like into it with porcupines. 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:30.440 Huh. 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.280 He would just have a bodily ether on hand. Pour 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.520 some in a washcloth and stick it over the dog's 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:38.839 face and knock them out. And then take his little 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.480 needle nosed pliers and just pull quills out. 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.800 And did he know the amount that you were supposed to? 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.200 He must have been like some kind of chemist. Did 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.199 you lose any dogs? 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:52.280 Okay? I even saw this man pick up a horse 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:56.520 one time. He like that seems like childish revisionist history. 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.800 Well, he put the horses like front of a body 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:03.760 on his chevy, and then he went to the back 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.360 and lifted up the back and threw his back out 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.360 because he was hurt for a while, and then pushed 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:10.720 the back end of the horse onto the because they 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:14.800 had died. I'm thinking old age, but he like he 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:17.800 picked the horse up and put I watched him do it. 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:20.160 I was just like this guy is. I thought it 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:22.120 was the coolest do it on the planet. I mean, 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.880 Davy Crockett. He taught me how to fish, taught me 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.640 how to hunt, taught me how to track. He was very, 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.920 uh outdoor savvy. 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:32.800 I'll say he knew how to get around. 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:34.679 Do you hunt for sport or no? I don't hunt 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.760 for sport. We did do it for food, though, Do 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:38.400 you eat a lot. Do you like food? 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:39.760 I do. I'll eat anything. 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:42.360 I think any food allergies As a kid that grew 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.040 up eating ants, Is there anything you're like, Oh, I 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:48.679 don't enjoy eating this. Grasshoppers, ants, crickets at no food allergies. 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.640 Craw dads I used to think craw dads and grasshoppers 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:52.280 were the best thing. 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:55.800 What's the fanciest food that you can't and that you 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:59.360 can't get your head around? Why people eat it? S cargo? Yeah, 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:01.760 me too. That doesn't seem like it serves a purpose. 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.240 I never ate snails when I was growing up. I 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.480 just didn't see a purpose. We put salt on him 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:09.319 and let him just kind of like shrivel up and die. 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.960 I had a friend, this guy was he would pick 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.200 birds up and like bite their heads off. You were 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.880 friends with Ozzy Osbourne. I won't say his name, but yeah, 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.679 he was strange. Sure, I mean we were eating crowdads 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:23.600 and ants. 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:25.520 Right, but he wasn't. He wasn't biting heads off, bit 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:26.480 that was off of them. 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:29.360 He wasn't even eating catching birds just out of curiosity, 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:32.280 just climbing up the tree and grabbing a bird out 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:32.839 of the nest. 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:36.280 Oh, it's a baby bird. No, this story just gets horrible. 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.400 I'll tell you a story about cigarette Remember back when 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.440 they used to sell the cartons in the store. 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:42.560 Yeah, as kids, we were bad. We used to steal 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:43.360 the whole cartons. 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:45.960 And one of my buddies got caught smoking by his 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.760 mom and she was like, all right, you're gonna smoke 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.480 this whole carton then, and they made us smoke the 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:54.959 whole carton and I quit smoking cigarettes after that. 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:59.840 He still smokes to this day. But yeah, I had enough. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.320 They've they've I think I think they've proven that that's 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.920 not the right way to parent. You know, he's got 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:06.839 a great joke about that, as Norm MacDonald. Oh, he 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:10.480 talked about getting caught and then his dad injected heroin 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.240 into the eye of his cock, and so it's a 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:15.320 good joke. He should look it up, all right. How 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:17.520 that how that father in law story end? You know? 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:20.559 Actually he he got killed by bounty hunters. 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:21.720 Okay, it was. 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:25.160 Pretty it was pretty weird. Like that's about what I thought. 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:28.880 Arkansas Dave, he was from Arkansas, you know, the bounty 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.360 hunter that killed your stepdad. No, no, no, my stepdad's name 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:31.720 was Dave. 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:31.840 Oh. 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.280 Sorry, and he was from Arkansas, so I wonder, like, 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.120 was that Arkansas Dave they were talking? No, I don't know, 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.920 though apparently he pulled a knife out at a gunfight 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:41.440 and got shot. 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:46.600 Oh well, that's horrible. I mean, you're definitely the arguably 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.960 the realist man I've ever had on the show. How 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.320 long do you think you would survive if there was 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:53.760 a zombie apocalypse? I think I could make it. 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.240 I mean as long as I was pretty far out 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:59.079 and they weren't even interested in coming out there, kind 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:00.560 of like protect the. 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:06.760 Services, all right, Now you are a cowboy, yeah, I 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:11.480 would say, so. Now the term cowboy with with you know, 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:14.600 indigenous people, Native American, those don't necessarily go hand in hand. 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:15.080 You know. 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.560 That's the second time I've had that question. Okay, And 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:19.280 when was the first time you kill that person? 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:19.640 No? 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.600 No, we were in Santa Fe. We were shooting this 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.840 thing for Filson, and there was myself and a couple 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.360 of the cowboys there and they were like, well, do 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:30.520 natives call themselves cowboys? And I was like, you know, 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:35.559 everybody that works horses or cattle calls himself a cowboy. 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:36.040 Okay. 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:38.560 I think that the word came from this is just 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:43.200 what I've heard. So back in the day cowboys black 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:48.160 and white. The white cowboys were called cow hands, the 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:53.040 black cow hands were called cowboys, and the natives kind 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.080 of just got thrown in there whatever, you know. So, 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:56.840 if you were working on a ranch and you were 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:58.760 working horses or cattle, you were. 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.120 Just a cowboy. How'd you get your land out in 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:02.480 a Joshua tree? 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:07.000 I basically wrote the contract for a least to own 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:11.160 for the first two years with the first ride of refusal. 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:16.240 And I wrote that contract during the pandemic. I had 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:17.760 pandemic prices. 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.800 Telling people exactly what you did. You were buying a 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:23.600 large amount of acreage to open a horse sanctuary, yes, 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.479 for wild horses, for mustangs. 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.360 I got the guy to sign the contract and then 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:30.079 I ran with it. So I had the first ride 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:32.680 of refusal after two years, and I was renting the 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:34.680 land first for eight hundred dollars a month. 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:35.720 Uh huh, that's a good deal. 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.360 So during the pandemic, people were trying to get out 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:41.839 of the city and they wanted to go and be outside. Right, 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.600 And if you remember, we couldn't celebrate Christmas, we couldn't 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:46.640 celebrate Thanksgiving. 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:48.400 I don't remember that people. 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.800 Couldn't celebrate their birthdays, so they were all coming to 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:57.160 the ranch and renting campsites and celebrating there. So we 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:00.480 had like thirty people every weekend. There were like a 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:01.160 super spreader. 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:01.520 It was. 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:07.480 Maybe all right, but it was really nice. And so 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:10.080 we first started renting the dirt and I was building fences. 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.480 So then I built the fences, and then September of 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:16.160 twenty one, I got my first two horses. You know, 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.920 they say what you think about you attract, right, So 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.840 I the first two horses I got were very special horses. 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:25.240 They're called Nez Pierce, Blanket Applelousas. So I took these 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:28.640 two reservation ponies, and the guy who sold me the 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:34.160 reservation ponies gave me two horses. So September of twenty one, 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:38.520 I had four horses. And then my estranged uncle, I 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.320 hadn't talked to him in forever, and he called me. 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.240 He's in Palm Springs and he's like, hey, I heard 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.680 you're out in Joshua Tree. Are you killing mustangs? And 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:52.160 I was like, what, I'm saving mustangs. He was like, oh, okay, 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.640 because I've heard a lot about mustangs and like people 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.640 are shooting them, and I just wasn't sure what you 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:58.560 were doing with them, and I was like, why don't 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:00.920 you come up and see what I'm doing? So he 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:04.120 and his wife came up and they saw and they 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:07.840 were like mind blown. I'll say this also a lot 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:11.440 of people come and lose their shit, like they get 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:15.560 there and they cry, or they just like go into 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:21.360 this like meditative, like start having I don't know, downloads 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:25.240 if you will, like just feeling like the the universe 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:26.920 is talking to him. So I think that happened to 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:28.960 my uncle. And he was like, how can I help? 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:31.600 And I was like, well, why don't you save this 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.880 mustang from Colorado? And he was like okay, So he 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.600 bought the Mustang out of the kill pen and shipped 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.160 it to us. So I went from four horses to 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:44.080 five horses. And then another lady called and was like, hey, 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:46.640 I got a Mustang I can't train. Can I give 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:50.400 it to you? And I was like sure, six mustangs? Then, 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.080 now do you break that mustang? Yeah, we don't even 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:53.960 call it breaking. 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:55.600 Okay, I didn't know that's the many word. I knew. 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:57.400 We call it starting, uh huh. 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.960 So we start them, build a solid foundation and then 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:02.120 let them go from there. 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:03.960 Well, why don't you just let them keep running wild? 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.480 Or why do you have to. 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.400 So in America we have a high respect for horses 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.760 unless you're at Santa Anita. Even there they really respect 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.040 them and they love them. But it's just that the 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:20.320 thoroughbred is so selectively bred and inbread that its hooves 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:23.800 are really small and its bodies really big. So that 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.040 big body on those really small hooves is hard on 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.520 the legs and they break a lot of legs. And 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.920 that Santa Anita track isn't really giving, so it hurts 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:35.200 those thoroughbreds. But on top of that, Thoroughbreds are raced 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:39.760 at two years old, and they're racing career is over 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:44.200 by five or six, and that's a long career. But 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:47.280 a horse can live twenty five years past that. The 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.560 life expectancy for a Thorowbread is actually nineteen, so they 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:53.160 don't live much longer because they really run them hard 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:54.120 and into the ground. 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:54.360 Right. 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:58.400 But while they're running at Santa Anita, they're very loved. 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:02.240 Everybody takes care of them, they appreciate them, they baby them. 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:04.960 But then when they're done running, they go to a 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.200 thoroughbred farm where they're thrown out with thirty or forty 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:10.639 other thoroughbreds that are retired, and they're fighting for their 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:12.960 food and they just don't have such a great life anymore. 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:16.840 It's kind of like a supermodel who when she's sixteen 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:20.000 to nineteen, everybody loves her right, and then when she's 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:21.400 when she's twenty four. 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:26.000 You're just like, oh, oh, look this old hag. See 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:29.639 if she can fight for some food. So you open 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:34.040 this sanctuary and just right away started just rescuing horses 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:35.800 or having people bring them to you or what was 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:36.720 how was this working? 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:39.600 So I opened the sanctuary in October of twenty twenty. 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:42.600 What's the name of it, Cascade Trails Mustang Sanctuary. 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:45.040 Do people ride your horses? Yes, all of them. 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.040 We have five that are not rideable right now because 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:49.520 they're under the age of three. 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:54.440 I can ride it. I've ridden one horse a lot. Yes, 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.119 my whole life. I love horses. I love all animals. 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.640 I love horses, but I don't need to be on them, 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:00.840 like to look at them. 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.520 There's an energy that exudes from horses that's so calming. 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:06.840 Like I said, when people come there, they lose their 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:09.720 shit and it's just I think it's just the energy 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:10.200 that's there. 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:13.959 I've always wanted to adopt a couple Clydesdale's just to 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:14.879 look at those things. 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.680 Those are called drafts, drafts. I want one of those 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.200 drafts on your lot. I have two drafts. 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.439 You do. They're called I'm sorry, not pertrons. We have 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:27.080 two Belgians. How many hands high? Is that good question? 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:29.119 What do you know about hands? I don't know. 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.959 So hands are measured like this, Yeah, it's four inches 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:38.040 and you go one the mits. 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:40.440 You gotta do three fingers with yours. 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:45.120 So we have two Belgians. One is nineteen hands and 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:48.480 one is seventeen to one. The other the biggest horse 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:50.720 that we had prior to that was the thoroughbred. She's 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:55.120 sixteen hands. Okay, so yeah, two Belgian drafts. They look 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:56.280 a lot like Clydesdale's. 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:59.199 I just like those commercials when the bud like or 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:01.960 beer commercial. Yeah at Christmas time to make you cry. 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:05.679 Yeah awesome, Oh they are awesome. How many sayings in 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:07.960 the language that we have are horse related? Let's talk 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:10.720 about that for a second. Okay, do you say champing 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:13.919 at the bit or chomping at the bit? Chomping at 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:17.840 the bit. It's champing. Wait really, yeah, the term is champing, 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:20.119 but everyone says chomping at the bit. That's right, but 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:23.080 the actual term is champion at the bit. That's interesting. 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:24.879 I mean, it kind of is, except for the people 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.040 that fight me on it like it's zones because you 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:29.160 think of just chomping at a bit. But it still 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:32.160 comes from the same thing I believe, Well, I doesn't. 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:35.200 Thoroughbreds kind of they do that champ at the bit. 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:38.680 So thoroughbreds are trained to run into the bit. Most horses, 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:42.719 when you pull back, they think stop. But a thoroughbred, 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:46.320 when you pull back, they run harder because the jockeys 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:49.560 standing up on them and using the reins as leverage, 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.680