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Speaker 1: Baptist Health Studio. This inside the Baptist Help Training Complex.
Speaker 2: This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 3: He's got my advance in the playoffs.
Speaker 4: What is up Dolphins? And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 4: I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show,
Speaker 4: you don't want to miss this one. Man, you're already here,
Speaker 4: so gott I tell you that. But Kyle Krabs is
Speaker 4: here for his second part of his two part series.
Speaker 4: We took a look at the offseason so far, but
Speaker 4: today we're talking about Tua Tongue Biloa, how the team
Speaker 4: can continue to build around him, where he can go
Speaker 4: further in his career, how the offense can avoid the
Speaker 4: loll from the end of the season we saw the
Speaker 4: last two seasons, expectations on defense. Under new DC Anthony Weaver,
Speaker 4: We're going to do a bunch of mock draft scenarios,
Speaker 4: trading up, trading down, and the players we prefer it
Speaker 4: twenty one and fifty five and a whole heck of
Speaker 4: a lot more. From the Baptist Hell Studios. Inside the
Speaker 4: Baptist Hell's Training Complex. This is the Draft Time Podcast,
Speaker 4: Maggie first Part two with a very great Kyle Crabs.
Speaker 4: Back for part two with my guests previewing the Dolphins
Speaker 4: draft and taking a look at the off season so far,
Speaker 4: basically getting you ready for what this Dolphins team could
Speaker 4: look like Opening Day twenty twenty four. Still far away,
Speaker 4: but right now we have the great Kyle Krabs joining
Speaker 4: us on the podcast for the second rate episode.
Speaker 2: Kyle, what is up? My dude?
Speaker 3: Gravis is good to be back fired up for a
Speaker 3: little draft talk here on this episode of the Drive
Speaker 3: Time Podcast.
Speaker 2: Nice nice pause there.
Speaker 4: I have a lot for you I'm gonna throw at you,
Speaker 4: and I'm not really sure how it's gonna go because
Speaker 4: I just kind of have some general ideas and not
Speaker 4: really scripted out that well. So I'm excited to just
Speaker 4: kind of shoot the breeze, as it were with you.
Speaker 4: But first, this stuff's a little more buttoned up, a
Speaker 4: little bit more formulaic. Let's go ahead and talk about
Speaker 4: the quarterback here, because Chris Greer. I love his press conference.
Speaker 4: By the way, his pre draft presser was very very good,
Speaker 4: very informative, and very to the point to the point
Speaker 4: to where he said, you guys can most likely go
Speaker 4: ahead and cross quarterback off your list of twenty one.
Speaker 4: We'll look at every position and we'll take a look
Speaker 4: at that down the line, but at twenty one we
Speaker 4: feel pretty good about the guy we have in house.
Speaker 4: Right now, Mike McDaniel continues to talk about how much
Speaker 4: he loves Toua's game and wants me to be here
Speaker 4: long term. Just tell me about Tua, his arc, where
Speaker 4: he is and year number three for Mike McDaniel here,
Speaker 4: where you think he can get better. Just give us
Speaker 4: the Tuo A skinny man. You talk about this guy
Speaker 4: a lot. This a quarterback of the team you cover.
Speaker 4: I want to hear your takes on Tua Tunka bai Looa.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think reps in schemes is important and should not
Speaker 3: be devalued. I think a lot of the discourse around
Speaker 3: Tua is what his strengths are as a quarterback versus
Speaker 3: kind of the generally accepted must have to be a
Speaker 3: quarterback at a certain level. But when I hear Chris
Speaker 3: Greer and Mike mc daniel talk about Tuas still having
Speaker 3: another level and another gear to get to, I generally
Speaker 3: do believe them, and it's maybe not because he has
Speaker 3: the strongest arm in the league or because he's running
Speaker 3: a four to three footy or anything like that. I
Speaker 3: just think there's an efficiency that comes with.
Speaker 1: Having so much muscle.
Speaker 3: Memory within the scheme and within the plays and where
Speaker 3: your guys are gonna be. And you saw, you know,
Speaker 3: Tyreek Kill alluded to that as far as like year
Speaker 3: one to year two, understanding the timing of the offense,
Speaker 3: more understanding the why and how the plays are constructed.
Speaker 3: And I think for a quarterback, it's just understanding where
Speaker 3: all your options are on every given play against every
Speaker 3: kind of coverage. And I think for Tua, you consider
Speaker 3: some of the opportunities. There were some too mint of
Speaker 3: offense situations for the Dolphins offense last year where you
Speaker 3: felt like maybe there were some easier completions that were
Speaker 3: to be had and they had time, whether they had
Speaker 3: timeouts or not. And I think to the Kansas City game,
Speaker 3: I think to the Buffalo game at the end of
Speaker 3: the regular season, there were some throat out there that
Speaker 3: just having the muscle memory element there, I think gives
Speaker 3: you more consistent efficiency in all elements of running an
Speaker 3: NFL offense. And I think that's where there is another
Speaker 3: gear to tap into for who he is as a player.
Speaker 3: And I'm really interested to see how the Dolphins choose
Speaker 3: to supplement around him, right because that's the big thing
Speaker 3: is the league right now, it's so geared towards You
Speaker 3: build up a young quarterback with this really strong supporting cast,
Speaker 3: and you invest around him, and then once you pay
Speaker 3: the quarterback, you naturally have to make some transitions as
Speaker 3: far as how you choose to assemble around that quarterback contract.
Speaker 3: And for Miami that is a long term discussion that
Speaker 3: they won't necessarily have to have in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 3: but you will probably start to get an idea based
Speaker 3: off of how that muscle memory continues to evolve for him.
Speaker 4: That's why I love about his game and his skill
Speaker 4: set is quarterbacks of that ilk that play that way
Speaker 4: tend to get better as they age.
Speaker 2: And we've seen it.
Speaker 4: You know so many quarterbacks that played into their thirties
Speaker 4: and even the one guy that played deep into his
Speaker 4: forties who was an anomaly, but for the most part,
Speaker 4: like I thought, Drew Brees was his best and do
Speaker 4: his thirties.
Speaker 2: You could say the same thing about Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 4: Tom Brady, I think was as well, Like all these
Speaker 4: great quarterbacks just kind of get better and better because
Speaker 4: of the like you talked about, the reps, the the
Speaker 4: sustained time within the same system, and the must memory
Speaker 4: that comes with that. And we know Tua was out
Speaker 4: throwing footballs in the beach every day with his dad
Speaker 4: and just harping that must memory of accuracy and armslaught
Speaker 4: and all the stuff that he did that put himself
Speaker 4: in position to be an NFL quarterback in the fifth
Speaker 4: pick of the draft.
Speaker 2: YadA, YadA yah all that.
Speaker 4: My follow up question to that, Kyle is help me
Speaker 4: understand something here, because I talked to myself in the
Speaker 4: podcast a lot. We talked about to his game, and
Speaker 4: I don't get much of a chance to debate this
Speaker 4: with someone that I, you know, think so highly of
Speaker 4: in terms of your opinion of football players. Where is
Speaker 4: this disconnect coming from with quarterback play? Because I see
Speaker 4: it all the time. I see it in draft reports
Speaker 4: like big arm, throwball, Fart's all I care about. But man,
Speaker 4: I watch a lot of football, dude, and what always
Speaker 4: wins to me those that are great traits to have,
Speaker 4: but playing the position, playing on time, seeing the field
Speaker 4: being a field general like, I don't think those things
Speaker 4: are ever going to go out of style. Why is
Speaker 4: there such a disconnect for what actually constitutes good quarterback play?
Speaker 2: Or Am I wrong? Am I completely off based on this?
Speaker 1: Can I be honest with you?
Speaker 3: I think everybody does this at every position. I think
Speaker 3: you get into the pre draft process and it exists
Speaker 3: with offensive linemen. I think it exists with edge rushers.
Speaker 3: I think it exists with wide receivers. It exists with corners.
Speaker 3: There's a slew of examples of corners that get drafted
Speaker 3: off of what they could be as compared to what
Speaker 3: they tangibly are. And it's the Every coach is going
Speaker 3: to have some level of confidence that they can bring
Speaker 3: the best version of a player out, and whether or
Speaker 3: not that's realized oftentimes extends beyond the player himself, and
Speaker 3: it extends beyond the relationship with the coach and the player.
Speaker 3: A lot of this is unfortunately circumstantial because of how
Speaker 3: interwoven so many parts of these organizations are. So I
Speaker 3: think it's very easy to take a step back and
Speaker 3: look at the tools of oh, well, just imagine if
Speaker 3: he does what did what he did on these ten
Speaker 3: plays in this one game every time he drops back
Speaker 3: to pass, and that's so much easier said than done.
Speaker 3: But I do think the physical potential of upside gets
Speaker 3: romanticized a lot at all positions, because when you look
Speaker 3: across the course of history, the reason why so many
Speaker 3: of the highly, highly, highly successful players are successful is
Speaker 3: in part because they had the tools, but they didn't
Speaker 3: just have the physical tools that you can't teach. There
Speaker 3: is a between the ears elements of all of those
Speaker 3: players as well, and I think quarterback, ironically enough, is
Speaker 3: one of the positions where you can be more apt
Speaker 3: to win between the ears just off of that strength itself,
Speaker 3: because there's a chess match that's involved with that position
Speaker 3: that you maybe don't necessarily get so in the weeds
Speaker 3: with out of the spots along the way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think maybe there's a little bit more ability
Speaker 4: to have those growing pains with the more physical talent
Speaker 4: as well. But man, I just I want a quarterback
Speaker 4: to plays on time and in rhythm and understands the position.
Speaker 2: That's my number one thing. But what the hell do
Speaker 2: I know?
Speaker 4: Speaking of that, this offense was clicking on a high
Speaker 4: level last year and kind of slowed down towards the end,
Speaker 4: just kind of to put we're gonna go offense and
Speaker 4: defense are to close this segment, just kind of talking
Speaker 4: about what you think could happen this year offensively and defensively.
Speaker 4: I'm just curious what you think this offense could do
Speaker 4: to kind of break the I don't want.
Speaker 2: To call it a shrenks.
Speaker 4: It's two years, but the last two seasons the offense
Speaker 4: tapered off towards end. Your quarterback was down for a
Speaker 4: big chunk of that in the first season, but last
Speaker 4: year tapered off in December and January. Why do you
Speaker 4: think that was and how do they overcome that in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's I think back to twenty twenty
Speaker 3: one and the I guess twenty twenty two and the
Speaker 3: Chargers game was the big game after that season that
Speaker 3: everybody pointed to and all these concerns that we had,
Speaker 3: and then who they played the first week is season,
Speaker 3: they played the Chargers, and you very quickly found that
Speaker 3: they found a way to push the buttons to alleviate
Speaker 3: that individual concern And I'd like to think that coming
Speaker 3: into a new season in twenty twenty four, whatever they
Speaker 3: deemed to be the biggest issue was and there's some
Speaker 3: context clues between adding John new Smith and making overtures
Speaker 3: to Odell Beckham Junior. I think there's some context clues
Speaker 3: there as far as from a personnel standpoint, what maybe
Speaker 3: could be different to give you more clubs in the bag.
Speaker 3: But I think that's what this all boils down to
Speaker 3: is your evolution to not just stay the same at
Speaker 3: what you did the year before, or get better at
Speaker 3: what you did the year before, but to have that
Speaker 3: and then add something else, to do something else as
Speaker 3: the counteraction, and if you log enough time together collectively
Speaker 3: as a unit, even if there's new players that are
Speaker 3: part of it, the greater unit will be able to say, hey,
Speaker 3: remember that time in twenty twenty two where this team
Speaker 3: did this to us, Let's go back to what we
Speaker 3: did three weeks later when we solve that issue, because
Speaker 3: they're doing that to us in this game three years later.
Speaker 3: So I think part of this is stacking with new variables,
Speaker 3: and I think that's what I'm most excited about for
Speaker 3: the draft is this will kind of be our first
Speaker 3: chance to see outside of John neu Smith, what they're
Speaker 3: committed to investing to give them that extra layer that
Speaker 3: they maybe need to avoid some of the same pitfalls
Speaker 3: as last year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it does seem like a little bit of the focus,
Speaker 4: at least in the beginning of freegency was more defensively
Speaker 4: to kind of get Anthony Weaver his pieces and parts.
Speaker 4: And I'm sure a lot of that has to do
Speaker 4: with McDaniel and Frank Smith being like, oh, we know
Speaker 4: what we got here, we know we are plans going
Speaker 4: to be to go ahead and make, like you said,
Speaker 4: those changes that are necessary to overcome that hurdle.
Speaker 2: But I look at so many teams over the.
Speaker 4: You know, the course of two three decades of watching
Speaker 4: the sport that had to kind of get over that hump,
Speaker 4: and it took some time. It's like, I'm with you, man,
Speaker 4: like sometimes it takes some experience, It takes some losing
Speaker 4: to find out what you have to do to win
Speaker 4: those spots and win those games.
Speaker 2: And hopefully that's the case for the Dolphins this year.
Speaker 4: How about defensively, man, I haven't really had a chance
Speaker 4: to pick your brain too much on this. I've asked
Speaker 4: my previous guests a lot about what they think they're
Speaker 4: going to see from this Anthey Weaver led defense. But
Speaker 4: is it going to be, you know, Ravens copy and paste.
Speaker 4: Is it gonna have different elements? Like what's your expectations
Speaker 4: here for what we're going to see you from the
Speaker 4: Dolphins new defensive coordinator here, Anthony Weaver in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: I kind of expect it's going to have its own
Speaker 3: unique flavor. When you're early in doctrinated by Rex Ryan,
Speaker 3: I feel like that probably never leaves you right as
Speaker 3: far as just the aggressiveness mentality. But he's had so
Speaker 3: many great coaches that he's worked with along the way
Speaker 3: that I think you will see a bit of a
Speaker 3: unique product. And obviously he had the one year stop
Speaker 3: as a defensive coordinator, and there were some circumstances with
Speaker 3: that football team in Houston that I think it's probably
Speaker 3: difficult to get a full grasp based off of that
Speaker 3: personnel because good coaches tailored their system and their scheme
Speaker 3: to the players that they have. And that is like
Speaker 3: we just got done saying on offense, are you going
Speaker 3: to go out and get another back seven, multi use
Speaker 3: player that can play all over the place. Because if
Speaker 3: that's the case, then I expect you you're probably going
Speaker 3: to have a pretty heavy pressure style system that wants
Speaker 3: to be able to match personnel against heavier personnel or
Speaker 3: lighter personnel, and know that you can pick and choose
Speaker 3: matchups when you go man coverage. You can pick and
Speaker 3: choose who you want in the run fit. You can
Speaker 3: pick and choose who you want playing deep or who
Speaker 3: you want playing middle of the field coverage, based on
Speaker 3: what the strengths are the offense that you play. I
Speaker 3: do expect, you know, you will get a little bit
Speaker 3: more rotation up front, which means I think you probably,
Speaker 3: at a minimum, even if Bradley Chubb and Jalen Phillips
Speaker 3: do have ambitious timelines for recovery, I think you probably
Speaker 3: need another pass rusher, and I think you need another
Speaker 3: rotational guy with some ceiling on passing downs on the
Speaker 3: interier of your unit. But I think you will probably
Speaker 3: see some more pressure tendencies than what the Dolphins had
Speaker 3: last year. But I don't know that you'll get like
Speaker 3: the full wink Martin Dale or Rex Ryanix experience as
Speaker 3: an example.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so different in the sense that it's not gonna
Speaker 4: be the same picture pre snap every time. That kind
Speaker 4: of is, you know, developed around confusing the quarterback and
Speaker 4: presenting the same presenting the same presentation every single snap
Speaker 4: to now, it's going to be a little more flexible
Speaker 4: and different. I think they're with what they did in
Speaker 4: Baltimore the last couple of years under Mike McDonald and
Speaker 4: Anthony we run the defensive line.
Speaker 2: So good stuff there.
Speaker 4: We've finally hit the point you've all been waiting for.
Speaker 4: We're gonna talk draft for two full segments here coming
Speaker 4: up after the break. My guest today, Kyle Krabs Lockdown
Speaker 4: Dolphins podcast on the Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield,
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Speaker 2: Okay, Kyle, I tease this segment.
Speaker 4: I don't know when it was. I've lost track. We've
Speaker 4: done four segments down two to go. I talked about
Speaker 4: I have done several mock drafts where I kind of
Speaker 4: tried to take different approaches to help myself understand and
Speaker 4: find out exactly where the strong points, the soft points,
Speaker 4: the inflection points, the markets, strengths and weaknesses are for
Speaker 4: each position at each spot of this draft. I know
Speaker 4: you know about all this because I know you do
Speaker 4: this yourself as well. Just kind of trying to put
Speaker 4: myself as best in the shoes of Chris Career and
Speaker 4: the Dolphins front office and kind of playing through these scenarios.
Speaker 4: I know you've worked with you know, for big time
Speaker 4: publications and been involved with teams and talked to scouts
Speaker 4: and stuff like.
Speaker 2: That around the legue.
Speaker 4: Our teams doing this, our teams cranking out mock drafts
Speaker 4: and trying to figure out what it could look like
Speaker 4: come draft night.
Speaker 3: I think this is about the time of year where
Speaker 3: they really get into some of those hypotheticals. You know,
Speaker 3: it's for the media. Part of our whole subculture is
Speaker 3: mock drafts and player rankings throughout the season, and you
Speaker 3: get to the early pre draft process, and then there's
Speaker 3: another wave because it changes with free agency. But this
Speaker 3: is really the time for teams once they've set and
Speaker 3: finalized their boards, which is something that happens within the
Speaker 3: first two weeks of April, and that all the pro
Speaker 3: days are done, they're done collecting informational players. You sit down,
Speaker 3: you really finalize everything, and that's when you really start
Speaker 3: to look at and say, Okay, well, what happens if
Speaker 3: this happens, what happens, if that happens, what happens if
Speaker 3: this player's here. What happens if these three players are here?
Speaker 3: What happens if all five of these players are off
Speaker 3: the board? And that's where that is an exercise that
Speaker 3: does happen in some places that I have been, and
Speaker 3: we've heard from NFL personnel and decently ranking NFL personnel
Speaker 3: that they liked utilizing some of the tools that we
Speaker 3: had for going through some of those hypotheticals like that,
Speaker 3: that is a thing that does indeed exist. So yes,
Speaker 3: to answer your question, just not as excessively and obsessively
Speaker 3: as the media dots.
Speaker 4: I just got into it one day and these are like,
Speaker 4: I see it was from Saturday.
Speaker 2: I was doing this.
Speaker 1: I must have.
Speaker 4: I must have been after like naptime or something. I
Speaker 4: was just cranking out some mock drafts. But to your point,
Speaker 4: you know, obsessively, maybe it is a good word for it,
Speaker 4: because you don't know how accurate and this can possibly be.
Speaker 4: I think somebody's mock draft machines. They're all great, but
Speaker 4: they all have inherent flaws, just inherently. There's no other
Speaker 4: word to describe that. Like this one for instance, So
Speaker 4: this is my elite top three receiver falls more than
Speaker 4: he should mock draft. And in this case, Kyle, if
Speaker 4: I'm gonna pull my screen up here for you, it
Speaker 4: was Marvin Harrison. We know he's not gonna be there
Speaker 4: at nine, right, He's not gonna last to the Chicago
Speaker 4: Bears at nine. And if he is, they're probably gonna
Speaker 4: take him in and paired with Caleb Williams. But in
Speaker 4: this instance, I traded what in my opinion, was highway
Speaker 4: robbery becas I was able to get you know, I
Speaker 4: was able to get up there for a pretty cheap
Speaker 4: but it allowed me to go get Marvin Harrison. And
Speaker 4: that's how I feel about Harrison, Neighbors, and Oduns. I
Speaker 4: think they're all premier number one receivers in this league.
Speaker 4: Is there a player, is there a situation a scenario ethough,
Speaker 4: you can see where the Dolphins move not just a
Speaker 4: little bit, but way up in the draft and go
Speaker 4: pluck one of these premier players.
Speaker 3: Probably not, just because I think you have to. You
Speaker 3: don't just have to pay the price to get there.
Speaker 3: But there's gonna be teams in the teams that are
Speaker 3: trying to accomplish the same things. So now you're getting
Speaker 3: in an open bidding war. And I think One of
Speaker 3: the things that Miami has shown through free agency in
Speaker 3: each of the last two seasons and generally speaking, is
Speaker 3: they do have some restraint. And I know there's people
Speaker 3: who are fans of the team who maybe not don't
Speaker 3: feel that way, but it really does seem like they
Speaker 3: know what they feel the cost is of something and
Speaker 3: they're not going to go crazy. You know, the Tyreek
Speaker 3: Hill trade is something in its own animal because it's
Speaker 3: the best wide receiver in the NFL, becomes available in
Speaker 3: his physical prime at age twenty nine, and you had
Speaker 3: an opportunity to bring a player in that really accentuated
Speaker 3: what you want to do to offensively like that, that's
Speaker 3: a totally different ballgame, right, So for Miami to know
Speaker 3: we're coming from twenty one to get into the top ten,
Speaker 3: to go get a premiere wide receiver as an example,
Speaker 3: I just feel like that cost is so high and
Speaker 3: it kind of flies in the face of what everything
Speaker 3: else this offseason has been about. So that for me,
Speaker 3: if somebody falls to eighteen, I think that's a different
Speaker 3: story than if somebody falls to nine with the Bears.
Speaker 4: Just for me, I'm glad you said that, because my
Speaker 4: next my next simulation here is just that real quick
Speaker 4: for posterity. I showed a screen to Kyle. It'd be
Speaker 4: cool to tell you guys that and not tell you
Speaker 4: the mock draft I did here. So I moved back,
Speaker 4: all right, Rather, I moved up and got Marvin Harrison,
Speaker 4: and then I had the sixty fourth picks. I must
Speaker 4: have traded back again with the Chiefs. I dipped into
Speaker 4: next year's capital to get this move done. So I
Speaker 4: got Jayden Hicks from Washington State, Go Kooks, and then
Speaker 4: Mason McCormick, Theo Johnson, and Jordan Jefferson round up my
Speaker 4: draft there. So that was one of the scenarios I
Speaker 4: played out. Kyle alluded to the idea of going up
Speaker 4: a little bit, and I think you and I are
Speaker 4: pretty in lockstep for this, and we're gonna play a
Speaker 4: game with the third segment taking a part of our
Speaker 4: favorite prospects for each twenty first and fifty fifth pick
Speaker 4: in the draft. But I think this guy is probably
Speaker 4: the one that you and I have talked about the
Speaker 4: most in terms of Hey, if he falls to sixteen,
Speaker 4: seventeen eighteen, maybe it's worth the idea trading a third
Speaker 4: round pick to go up and get him, But it's
Speaker 4: this one, Kyle. I moved up with the Seattle Seahawks,
Speaker 4: who I think would probably be hard pressed to not
Speaker 4: take Troy Fatanu. If he is there at that spot,
Speaker 4: keep him in Seattle, go ahead and solve an issue
Speaker 4: on your offensive line guard tackle prospect.
Speaker 2: That's why I just love him so much.
Speaker 4: I think he's a plus left guard right away, a
Speaker 4: future tackle in the league as well. And then I
Speaker 4: went I wound up well, okay, so this example is
Speaker 4: not great because I have on you. I saw that
Speaker 4: second big I made another move a camp and got
Speaker 4: laat lot To. We'll talk about him more in a second,
Speaker 4: but essentially this was my like, go get two players
Speaker 4: draft and pretty much exhaust the rest of your resources,
Speaker 4: because I didn't pick again until the late in the
Speaker 4: sixth round for Anthony gold, the receiver out of Oregon State,
Speaker 4: and then Trevin Wallace from Kentucky. But not a bad
Speaker 4: mock draft though, but Fatanu a couple spots up. Just
Speaker 4: tell me about the idea of moving a few spots
Speaker 4: up in the draft. How many guys do you think
Speaker 4: are worth that and what is the cost to go
Speaker 4: up just four or five spots in this range of
Speaker 4: the first round.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I did a ten year study and it
Speaker 3: was about teams coming up to the early twenties. So
Speaker 3: we like, the price is going to be a little
Speaker 3: bit higher here than what the study was because it
Speaker 3: was more through the lens of Miami coming down hypothetically
Speaker 3: if they didn't like what was their twenty one and
Speaker 3: the trade value chart exchanges are usually the past ten years.
Speaker 3: On average, it's about in favor eight or nine points
Speaker 3: on the traditional trade value chart for the team that
Speaker 3: is coming down. So that means you, as the team
Speaker 3: that goes up, you have to incentivize the other team
Speaker 3: by paying more than the pick that you're acquiring is worth.
Speaker 3: So if you look at the trade value chart, just
Speaker 3: hypothetically you mentioned Seattle, the sixteenth pick, according to Jimmy
Speaker 3: Johnson trade chart is worth a thousand points. On the
Speaker 3: trade value chart, number one pick is worth three thousand points.
Speaker 3: The last fifty picks in the draft are worth one point, right,
Speaker 3: so it's on a descending scale. Miami's pick at twenty
Speaker 3: one is worth eight hundred points, which makes it a
Speaker 3: difference of two hundred points, which is the exact value
Speaker 3: of the seventy eighth overall pick in the draft.
Speaker 1: So that's where it gets tough.
Speaker 3: I think for Miami is you don't have a three,
Speaker 3: so if you're gonna go up, it probably involves a
Speaker 3: pick swap involving both twenty one and fifty five to
Speaker 3: then go up a spot and then get something back.
Speaker 3: Hypothetically Seattle, let's see they have eighty one, which is
Speaker 3: worth one hundred and eighty five points, which would mean
Speaker 3: they need to pay Seattle about forty points worth of pick,
Speaker 3: which is an early day three draft pick. You could
Speaker 3: theoretically use one of the you're three from next year,
Speaker 3: knowing you're getting a three back because that pick is
Speaker 3: devalued because you have to wait twelve months suspended. So
Speaker 3: something like that, I think you'd have to involve both
Speaker 3: of your Day one and Day two picks to be
Speaker 3: involved in a trade up, just based off of the
Speaker 3: history and track record in recent history of deals in
Speaker 3: this area. The draft getting done because you don't have
Speaker 3: the three to just throw the three in, But.
Speaker 4: You like that the idea, like, is there a player
Speaker 4: that you think makes it that far that you would
Speaker 4: be gung ho about?
Speaker 2: Is it Fatanu?
Speaker 3: It would be Fotanu yeah, is the guy who I
Speaker 3: think is a long term stud at tackle, but I
Speaker 3: think could could be a plus starter for you inside
Speaker 3: in the short term. Not this similar to how that
Speaker 3: team chose to handle whin Lermie tunsl slid to them right,
Speaker 3: and that twenty sixteen season, Tunsol plays at guard with
Speaker 3: Brandon Albert to tackle, and then long term Tunsil takes
Speaker 3: over that spot until he's trained.
Speaker 4: It's it's too easy the comparison to me, I just
Speaker 4: I love the idea of that. We'll see what happens
Speaker 4: coming draft night. My next move before we get into
Speaker 4: the actual stick and pick model I made here is
Speaker 4: the move back concept. And the reason I ran into
Speaker 4: this so often was because I kept getting the same
Speaker 4: in three or four guys that I like at pick
Speaker 4: twenty one, and Chris Graywell tell you there's going to
Speaker 4: be warrant you guys on the board they like in
Speaker 4: that spot. So there could be the idea of stick
Speaker 4: and pick move back, get some extra draft picks. I
Speaker 4: love the idea of getting back into that third and
Speaker 4: fourth round ranch.
Speaker 2: So I love the top one fifty years so on
Speaker 2: this year's class.
Speaker 4: But here's this one, Kyle, I moved back into the
Speaker 4: second round. So for the third straight year no first
Speaker 4: round pick. PFF hated my selection of Xavier Lagette at
Speaker 4: pick thirty six in the second round. There, I then
Speaker 4: doubled up on Zach Fraser and Christian Haynes, the center
Speaker 4: from West Virginia and the guard from Yukon. I love
Speaker 4: what I did to my offensive line on that spot.
Speaker 4: And then Theo Johnson's kind of on all these mock drafts.
Speaker 4: I like his game on Day three from Penn State,
Speaker 4: Jeorge Jefferson again, Brendan Jackson or Brendan Jackson, the wshut
Speaker 4: and Gokooch and Tyler Owens at the end of that draft.
Speaker 4: So the idea of moving back and getting two second
Speaker 4: round picks, you say yeay or nay, and kind of
Speaker 4: what's the position or player you like in that range.
Speaker 2: If you make that happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if you move out of the first round,
Speaker 3: I think that's really when you start to get into
Speaker 3: a sweet spot with some of the interior offensive linemen,
Speaker 3: whether that be Zach Frasier, who I think has guard
Speaker 3: center flexibility, or Jackson powers Johnson from Oregon who sounds
Speaker 3: like maybe the league is a little bit lower on
Speaker 3: than the mock drafts from February that have him going
Speaker 3: in the top fifteen, or you mentioned Christian Haynes, who
Speaker 3: I'm a huge, huge fan of. I think there's a
Speaker 3: lot of scheme translatability there for him as a run
Speaker 3: blocker in this offense. Those players, I think are top
Speaker 3: fifty players that maybe if you're getting into a conversation
Speaker 3: about positional value and where they authentically rank on the
Speaker 3: draft bar, twenty one might be too early to feel
Speaker 3: like you're maximizing the value of your pick. So if
Speaker 3: you pick them fifteen spots later and got more picks back,
Speaker 3: I think that's the argument for going that route if
Speaker 3: you wanted to, just because I think then you're maybe
Speaker 3: not reaching for a need, you're instead finding appropriate value
Speaker 3: for that first investment opportunity that you have.
Speaker 4: I think the way this draft shakes out, and if
Speaker 4: you take a look at potential needs for the Dolphins,
Speaker 4: and we talked about this in the first episode, how
Speaker 4: we don't want a draft for need specifically, but just
Speaker 4: in terms of how you could manipulate the board to
Speaker 4: get your elf in position to take the best player
Speaker 4: who also satisfies a need for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: You can do that too.
Speaker 4: And I was gonna flash some more mock drafts that
Speaker 4: you hear, but I think it's best to move on
Speaker 4: to the next segment because essentially I'm covering the players
Speaker 4: I like in this next one. So we'll go ahead
Speaker 4: and take our last break right there and come back
Speaker 4: on the other side and talk about these picks.
Speaker 2: Man, We're gonna go back and forth.
Speaker 4: Kyle's gonna pick a guy, I'm gonna pick a guy,
Speaker 4: and we're gonna see who we like the best of
Speaker 4: the end in terms of who our options are at
Speaker 4: pick twenty one and pick fifty five. That is next
Speaker 4: my guest today, Kyle Krabs and Lockdown Dolphins podcast on
Speaker 4: the Draft Time Podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to
Speaker 4: you by Auto Nation. So the reason I did not
Speaker 4: get into those other mock drafts, which featured pretty much
Speaker 4: each one of these guys that I'm gonna talk about
Speaker 4: here in this segment, Kyle, is that I think it
Speaker 4: picked twenty one, there is a really good chance you
Speaker 4: can stick and pick and find a guy that satisfies
Speaker 4: a need.
Speaker 2: Is a guy that I have big.
Speaker 4: Hopes for in terms of his long term upside and
Speaker 4: immediate impact upside as well. And so with that in mind,
Speaker 4: I want to play a game much like Jigsaw from
Speaker 4: the Saw movies, this one though, no risk of your life,
Speaker 4: just trying to have fun here on a podcast. The
Speaker 4: twenty first pick in the draft for the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 4: or blocks to Miami Dolphins, I should say this year.
Speaker 4: And there are so many, so many variations and variables
Speaker 4: that could happen that would produce a board that gives
Speaker 4: us different options at the spot. And I'm curious just
Speaker 4: to kind of I put a list together my guys.
Speaker 2: I think could be there that I would seleckt off of.
Speaker 2: But let's go.
Speaker 4: Ahead and use your big board here and ask the
Speaker 4: question to you first, who's the number one guy that
Speaker 4: could conceivably be there at twenty one that you are
Speaker 4: saying that's my guy?
Speaker 2: I want to go get him and tell us why.
Speaker 3: Well, I'd like to use the disclaimer to talk about
Speaker 3: the two players that are I think home run selections
Speaker 3: for Miami that I no longer think do get there,
Speaker 3: because if they were in play here I and not
Speaker 3: that long ago, maybe it was perceived that they could
Speaker 3: beat Felton, who is one of them from Washington, the
Speaker 3: offensive lineman. There's just so much smoke there, and it
Speaker 3: really feels like there is a lot of teams in
Speaker 3: the teams that knee offensive lineman, and it feels like
Speaker 3: he's kind of surpassed potentially Talis Fuaga from Oregon State
Speaker 3: and potentially passed Olufushanu from Penn State. So I think
Speaker 3: that puts him in a stratosphere where if he's in
Speaker 3: play at twenty one, if he told me he's on
Speaker 3: the board of twenty one, that would be my pick.
Speaker 3: If you told me Byron Murphy, the defensive tackle from
Speaker 3: Texas was on the board and Troy Fatana was not,
Speaker 3: that would be my pick. I don't think Murphy makes
Speaker 3: it either. Daniel Jeremiah just came out this week and
Speaker 3: said he feels Murphy is the name that he most
Speaker 3: consistently hears across the league. Is the sleeper top ten
Speaker 3: draft selection. Atlanta ranis class well. Atlanta's the team I
Speaker 3: think you look at the top ten that probably makes
Speaker 3: the most sense. They're often pegged as the first defensive
Speaker 3: player off the board, landing spot with all the quarterbacks
Speaker 3: were expecting to go, and I think the take backs
Speaker 3: that up. That's a player for me that I have
Speaker 3: a top ten great on in this class. I have
Speaker 3: top ten grades on both Altano and Byron Murphy. And
Speaker 3: I did all of my assessments through the lens of
Speaker 3: what we anticipate the Dolphins are gonna want to need
Speaker 3: and the traits that they like based on what we're
Speaker 3: expecting it to look like. So those are two guys
Speaker 3: I think are absolute home run selections.
Speaker 4: If they're there, Okay, cut them off, then take them
Speaker 4: off the list because I agree with you on Fatano.
Speaker 4: I'm mostly there on Murphy, especially after the DJ comment,
Speaker 4: but I think Fatana is long gone. Let's go ahead
Speaker 4: and remove both those guys. And there's still probably some
Speaker 4: more names here that you and I would bandy about
Speaker 4: about who actually could be there, But go ahead and
Speaker 4: take let's go.
Speaker 2: Let's take three guys each.
Speaker 4: Start with your yours first, and I'll go or alternate
Speaker 4: turns the first guy removing Fatana Murphy.
Speaker 2: Who's who's next on the list for you?
Speaker 4: There?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: So I would have it's three defensive Lineman's kind of
Speaker 3: the tier of guys that I expect to be there.
Speaker 3: Or I have a realistic chance to be there. It's
Speaker 3: Jared Verse from Florida State, Johnny Newton, the defensive tackle
Speaker 3: from Illinois, and Laatu Latu of UCLA are the three there.
Speaker 3: I think two out of those three probably do make
Speaker 3: it too. I think you get a choice out of
Speaker 3: at least two of those three guys.
Speaker 4: That's those are the guys that kept coming up in
Speaker 4: my mock drafts a lot to Adverse and then a
Speaker 4: combination of Newton and Murphy, but Murphy would tend to
Speaker 4: go a little bit earlier as well. I'll go ahead
Speaker 4: and throw the maybe, I don't know if it's the curveball.
Speaker 4: I guess the next line of thinking there because you
Speaker 4: talked about this and we're on a segment six now
Speaker 4: of six, and so I forget when it happened, but
Speaker 4: it was either the first episode or this episode. We
Speaker 4: talked about flexibility in the back end and going after
Speaker 4: more you know, chess pieces to move around. It creates
Speaker 4: more of an idea identity of sending pressure in your
Speaker 4: front seven or your front you know, five or six,
Speaker 4: whatever the numbers are at any given time. And it's
Speaker 4: Cooper Degene from Iowa because you know, I look at
Speaker 4: this defense and the Ravens the last couple of years
Speaker 4: operating from a high high percentage of big nickel three
Speaker 4: safeties and two cornerbacks on the field, plenty of dime
Speaker 4: defense as well, and we just rattled off a bunch
Speaker 4: of defensive backs in this roster that we love. And
Speaker 4: if you want to go ahead and play five or
Speaker 4: six minute time, maybe maybe Cooper Degene can come in
Speaker 4: right away and be a slot corner slow, a big
Speaker 4: nickel safety and kind of almost a Kyle Hamilton role
Speaker 4: where he uses that freak athletic ability and just overall
Speaker 4: versatility to kind of impact your defensive backfield. I don't
Speaker 4: hate the concept of that, but I mean, you checked
Speaker 4: the bucks in the first few guys, but I think
Speaker 4: Degene would be the next guy.
Speaker 2: Throwing there as a possibility at twenty one. What say you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's a lot of overlap there. I
Speaker 3: do like him better as a safety. I think some
Speaker 3: of the mystery and intrigue there comes with the Jalen
Speaker 3: Ramsey element of a player that can move around so much.
Speaker 3: Is Ramsey really you're Kyle Hamilton type of player at times?
Speaker 3: That's not to say even if that is the case,
Speaker 3: I think Degene does really well playing zones with vision
Speaker 3: from depth and tackling and running the alley from depth.
Speaker 3: So I think that's the makings of a long term tackle.
Speaker 3: And obviously you have Jordan Poyer here towards the later
Speaker 3: end stages of his career, so that is a long
Speaker 3: term need that I think you could have a rotational
Speaker 3: spot available for as well.
Speaker 1: Travis.
Speaker 3: I would want to just throw an offensive lineman out there,
Speaker 3: because I know there's some Dolphins fans I know would
Speaker 3: be absolutely devastated to not here an offensive line candidate year.
Speaker 3: Whichever of Talise Fuaga or Graham Barton makes it to
Speaker 3: twenty one, I would prefer Fuaga, and if it was
Speaker 3: Barton on the table, I personally would like some of
Speaker 3: the defensive options better. But that's kind of the names
Speaker 3: that I'm looking for on the offensive line as well.
Speaker 4: I think I'm a little bit higher on Fuologga than
Speaker 4: you are, but I would love him. I think that
Speaker 4: his tape was really really good last year at Oregon State,
Speaker 4: and he kind of gets off the ball quickly.
Speaker 2: He can play tackle and guard.
Speaker 4: I know there's some discussion about whether or not he's
Speaker 4: a tackle of guard but I think that they can
Speaker 4: make it work here at either spot for him, just
Speaker 4: and how he fits what this offense wants to do.
Speaker 2: So I agree with that.
Speaker 4: I did put JC Latham on here, but that's probably
Speaker 4: not a realistic possibility, so we'll go ahead and include
Speaker 4: him in the Fetano.
Speaker 2: And Byron Murphy category. So that's pick twenty one.
Speaker 4: We've discussed this about the idea of the move back
Speaker 4: and how much time do we have here. We got
Speaker 4: about seven minutes left from the chest, so let's go
Speaker 4: ahead and just jump into fifty five. We won't concern
Speaker 4: ourselves with what could happen in that early second round range.
Speaker 4: If there's a guy that you list in this range
Speaker 4: that you think you have to go up for, you
Speaker 4: can go ahead and clarify that for us. But pick
Speaker 4: fifty five. Man, My list is much longer here than
Speaker 4: is twenty one. But I'm curious to hear what you're
Speaker 4: thinking at the spot positions a number of players, and
Speaker 4: just kind of what you think could happen come draft night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is kind of where you're in
Speaker 3: the honey hole for intier offensive lineman, whether that's you know,
Speaker 3: Jackson Powers Johnson, I know there's some medical questions there
Speaker 3: that a couple of concussions I believe on his resume,
Speaker 3: dealt with some lower body injuries throughout the course of
Speaker 3: the season in twenty twenty three. I think you'd be
Speaker 3: better guard for Miami than center. I think you'd be
Speaker 3: doing Brewer disservice to not play him at center personally,
Speaker 3: but Powis Johnson, Christian Haynes, I think Cooper Beebe's in
Speaker 3: the conversation. There is somebody at Kansas State who played
Speaker 3: offensive tackle but has that road grading mass, big gravitational pool.
Speaker 3: I'd invoked the name Michael Hall from Ohio State and
Speaker 3: into your defensive lineman. I think would get really exciting
Speaker 3: there as well. And then maybe if you wanted to
Speaker 3: really invest in another pass catcher, you could go wide
Speaker 3: receiver with Ricky Piersoll from Florida. Of I know some
Speaker 3: people don't want Florida wide receivers. You's origin from Marizona State,
Speaker 3: so don't be too hard on him.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 3: If you want to go tight end, I think Ben
Speaker 3: Sinnett Kansas State is an.
Speaker 1: Absolute chess piece. Maller Man.
Speaker 3: He's super athletic, but has good tape and has good
Speaker 3: potential in the passing game, So I think that's a
Speaker 3: blend of skills that the tight end room right now
Speaker 3: I think has players that have individual strengths, but I
Speaker 3: think he could be all of them in one player.
Speaker 4: I feel like this position kind of has I feel like,
Speaker 4: almost more confident about what it looks like because there's
Speaker 4: so many more options to meet here at twenty one,
Speaker 4: it's kind of uddeled and you don't know who might
Speaker 4: be there. But I like, I have like twelve guys
Speaker 4: listen to here, man, there elect for this fifty to
Speaker 4: fifth pick, and you checked a bunch of those off
Speaker 4: Christian Haines as I actually I'm going to ask you
Speaker 4: to make your two selections just based on how you
Speaker 4: think it could go here to close this podcast out,
Speaker 4: spoiler minds a lot to at twenty one Christian Haynes
Speaker 4: at fifty five in terms of guys I think could
Speaker 4: be there. They would make this football team better and
Speaker 4: give us good long term prospects for the future. But
Speaker 4: those are the two guys that I'm kind of locked
Speaker 4: in on right now at this point in time. But man,
Speaker 4: you mentioned Haynes to the receivers, I think xavierl Gets
Speaker 4: probably long gone by now. I think probably the same
Speaker 4: case for Xavier Worthy. I'm a big Roman Wilson fan.
Speaker 4: Still the Michigan the Michigan player who kind of lines
Speaker 4: up all over the place and can get vertical and
Speaker 4: can separate and win.
Speaker 2: Javon Baker from Central Florida.
Speaker 4: Maybe a little bit early on him, but I think
Speaker 4: that his vertical skill set could help up this offense,
Speaker 4: kind of create some more space underneath for guys like
Speaker 4: Reakin Wadle to not run all those takeoff routes and
Speaker 4: only be utilized on seventy percent of your snaps. Jermaine
Speaker 4: Burton is a fascinating study to me because he's always open,
Speaker 4: just didn't really have the ball playing from his quarterback
Speaker 4: last year to make big productive plays. And we'll see
Speaker 4: where he winds up going off the board. But those
Speaker 4: are some names I'm a big fan of. You mentioned,
Speaker 4: Senate Man. He's so much fun to watch. And then
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go ahead and throw another defensive back in
Speaker 4: here on you guys, and Michigan's Mike Sandra.
Speaker 1: Still.
Speaker 2: I think I said that right the slot.
Speaker 3: Long gone by fifty five. He's a stud man.
Speaker 1: He's a dude. He's a total stud.
Speaker 4: He kind of reminds me like a little bit, like
Speaker 4: a little bit of Antoine Winfield Junior. A different position,
Speaker 4: but like just the mentality that that the temperament that
Speaker 4: he plays with the kay reminds me of him.
Speaker 3: So good stuf there ahead. I know we're up against it,
Speaker 3: but it is crazy. He played wide receiver until two
Speaker 3: years ago. I mean like he has these crazy instincts
Speaker 3: playing nickel corner and he's only been doing it for
Speaker 3: two years. He's an absolute stud, so.
Speaker 4: Only going to get better. Plus like a temperature riser. Right,
Speaker 4: That's my one my terms. I U from the Move
Speaker 4: the Sticks podcast, just an Ultimate Dog, Kyle. I teased
Speaker 4: it twenty one fifty five on the clock. What's your picks?
Speaker 1: Jared Vers and Jackson Powers Johnson, I.
Speaker 2: Think we both did pretty good here, sir. I think
Speaker 2: we've both made the football team a lot better today.
Speaker 1: So Jared Verse, I think a lot too.
Speaker 3: Ultimately, I think the medicals is the conversation get him
Speaker 3: to slide. I think he the pass rus ceiling is
Speaker 3: going to be too tempting for somebody, So I think
Speaker 3: Verse ends up being the one that's on the board.
Speaker 3: I they like take making defensive lineman and ed rushers,
Speaker 3: and Mike McDaniel gave it a little shout out talking
Speaker 3: about those kinds of players when he's been asked about
Speaker 3: in the past, and then like, I don't I think
Speaker 3: Christian Haynes goes before Jackson powers Johnson. So I think
Speaker 3: there's there's some momentum there for that. And because of that,
Speaker 3: I think Jackson powers Johnson kind of gets into Miami stratosphere.
Speaker 3: I think that they would take him and put him
Speaker 3: in a right guard.
Speaker 2: Well, you allude to Dolphins Twitter and the reactions.
Speaker 4: If they get JPJ at fifty five, they can go
Speaker 4: ahead and shut down Twitter for the day beause it's
Speaker 4: going to be an ultimate win as far as those
Speaker 4: guys are concerned, becuse they probably a lot of people
Speaker 4: probably want my twenty one and getting at fifty five
Speaker 4: right to talk about medical and all that stuff could
Speaker 4: play into it.
Speaker 2: So really good stuff there, Kyle.
Speaker 4: We have two minutes and twelve seconds left on this
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so locked on Dolphins. We will be doing a
Speaker 3: bunch of shows this week. You can find it on
Speaker 3: YouTube where you listen your Forvorite podcast, Joe Marino and
Speaker 3: I for Lockdown NFL Scouting. We'll be doing live streams
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Speaker 1: Scouting YouTube channel.
Speaker 3: I'll be dropping my horizontal team big board and my
Speaker 3: positional rankings, all of that over on Touchdown Miami, which
Speaker 3: is on Substack, which is where I do my long
Speaker 3: form written content covering the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 3: So and Travis, you mentioned at grinding the tape on
Speaker 3: just about any social media platform is a good way
Speaker 3: to find me as well.
Speaker 4: You're the best buddy. You just brought us home for
Speaker 4: the draft and I'm officially done. That's it for draft
Speaker 4: content until we actually select players. So, Kyle, it's a
Speaker 4: blast every year. Man camp pre season when we got
Speaker 4: to see you down here, man, I know you know
Speaker 4: the family, Okay, perfect.
Speaker 3: It's a little easier when you're not expecting, which was
Speaker 3: our family was expecting an addition last summer. So we'll
Speaker 3: do a camp pre season and regular season will definitely
Speaker 3: be down all my.
Speaker 4: Favorite trand camp practice the ones's being watching together, my friend,
Speaker 4: Thank you again so much, and we'll talk soon and enjoy.
Speaker 2: Your Draft Time man.
Speaker 4: Thanks Travis and away he goes really fun podcast there.
Speaker 4: I am stoked though, to be perfect honest with you guys,
Speaker 4: the draft season is officially over and we get to
Speaker 4: just talk about the players we acquire.
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