WEBVTT - Drive Time: Kyle Crabbs Dolphins 2024 Draft Preview

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<v Speaker 1>To on remove Dallin Deep spiegwals peas do From the

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<v Speaker 1>Baptist Health Studio. This inside the Baptist Help Training Complex.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got my advance in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 4>What is up Dolphins? And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't want to miss this one. Man, you're already here,

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<v Speaker 4>so gott I tell you that. But Kyle Krabs is

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<v Speaker 4>here for his second part of his two part series.

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<v Speaker 4>We took a look at the offseason so far, but

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<v Speaker 4>today we're talking about Tua Tongue Biloa, how the team

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<v Speaker 4>can continue to build around him, where he can go

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<v Speaker 4>further in his career, how the offense can avoid the

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<v Speaker 4>loll from the end of the season we saw the

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<v Speaker 4>last two seasons, expectations on defense. Under new DC Anthony Weaver,

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to do a bunch of mock draft scenarios,

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<v Speaker 4>trading up, trading down, and the players we prefer it

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<v Speaker 4>twenty one and fifty five and a whole heck of

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<v Speaker 4>a lot more. From the Baptist Hell Studios. Inside the

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<v Speaker 4>Baptist Hell's Training Complex. This is the Draft Time Podcast,

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<v Speaker 4>Maggie first Part two with a very great Kyle Crabs.

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<v Speaker 4>Back for part two with my guests previewing the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 4>draft and taking a look at the off season so far,

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<v Speaker 4>basically getting you ready for what this Dolphins team could

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<v Speaker 4>look like Opening Day twenty twenty four. Still far away,

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<v Speaker 4>but right now we have the great Kyle Krabs joining

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<v Speaker 4>us on the podcast for the second rate episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle, what is up? My dude?

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<v Speaker 3>Gravis is good to be back fired up for a

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<v Speaker 3>little draft talk here on this episode of the Drive

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<v Speaker 3>Time Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice nice pause there.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a lot for you I'm gonna throw at you,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm not really sure how it's gonna go because

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<v Speaker 4>I just kind of have some general ideas and not

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<v Speaker 4>really scripted out that well. So I'm excited to just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of shoot the breeze, as it were with you.

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<v Speaker 4>But first, this stuff's a little more buttoned up, a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit more formulaic. Let's go ahead and talk about

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<v Speaker 4>the quarterback here, because Chris Greer. I love his press conference.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, his pre draft presser was very very good,

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<v Speaker 4>very informative, and very to the point to the point

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<v Speaker 4>to where he said, you guys can most likely go

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<v Speaker 4>ahead and cross quarterback off your list of twenty one.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll look at every position and we'll take a look

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<v Speaker 4>at that down the line, but at twenty one we

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<v Speaker 4>feel pretty good about the guy we have in house.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, Mike McDaniel continues to talk about how much

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<v Speaker 4>he loves Toua's game and wants me to be here

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<v Speaker 4>long term. Just tell me about Tua, his arc, where

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<v Speaker 4>he is and year number three for Mike McDaniel here,

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<v Speaker 4>where you think he can get better. Just give us

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<v Speaker 4>the Tuo A skinny man. You talk about this guy

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<v Speaker 4>a lot. This a quarterback of the team you cover.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to hear your takes on Tua Tunka bai Looa.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think reps in schemes is important and should not

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<v Speaker 3>be devalued. I think a lot of the discourse around

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<v Speaker 3>Tua is what his strengths are as a quarterback versus

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<v Speaker 3>kind of the generally accepted must have to be a

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback at a certain level. But when I hear Chris

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<v Speaker 3>Greer and Mike mc daniel talk about Tuas still having

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<v Speaker 3>another level and another gear to get to, I generally

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<v Speaker 3>do believe them, and it's maybe not because he has

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<v Speaker 3>the strongest arm in the league or because he's running

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<v Speaker 3>a four to three footy or anything like that. I

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<v Speaker 3>just think there's an efficiency that comes with.

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<v Speaker 1>Having so much muscle.

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<v Speaker 3>Memory within the scheme and within the plays and where

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<v Speaker 3>your guys are gonna be. And you saw, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Tyreek Kill alluded to that as far as like year

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<v Speaker 3>one to year two, understanding the timing of the offense,

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<v Speaker 3>more understanding the why and how the plays are constructed.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think for a quarterback, it's just understanding where

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<v Speaker 3>all your options are on every given play against every

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<v Speaker 3>kind of coverage. And I think for Tua, you consider

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<v Speaker 3>some of the opportunities. There were some too mint of

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<v Speaker 3>offense situations for the Dolphins offense last year where you

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<v Speaker 3>felt like maybe there were some easier completions that were

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<v Speaker 3>to be had and they had time, whether they had

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<v Speaker 3>timeouts or not. And I think to the Kansas City game,

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<v Speaker 3>I think to the Buffalo game at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the regular season, there were some throat out there that

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<v Speaker 3>just having the muscle memory element there, I think gives

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<v Speaker 3>you more consistent efficiency in all elements of running an

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<v Speaker 3>NFL offense. And I think that's where there is another

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<v Speaker 3>gear to tap into for who he is as a player.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm really interested to see how the Dolphins choose

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<v Speaker 3>to supplement around him, right because that's the big thing

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<v Speaker 3>is the league right now, it's so geared towards You

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<v Speaker 3>build up a young quarterback with this really strong supporting cast,

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<v Speaker 3>and you invest around him, and then once you pay

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<v Speaker 3>the quarterback, you naturally have to make some transitions as

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<v Speaker 3>far as how you choose to assemble around that quarterback contract.

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<v Speaker 3>And for Miami that is a long term discussion that

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<v Speaker 3>they won't necessarily have to have in twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 3>but you will probably start to get an idea based

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<v Speaker 3>off of how that muscle memory continues to evolve for him.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I love about his game and his skill

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<v Speaker 4>set is quarterbacks of that ilk that play that way

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<v Speaker 4>tend to get better as they age.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've seen it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know so many quarterbacks that played into their thirties

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<v Speaker 4>and even the one guy that played deep into his

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<v Speaker 4>forties who was an anomaly, but for the most part,

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<v Speaker 4>like I thought, Drew Brees was his best and do

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<v Speaker 4>his thirties.

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<v Speaker 2>You could say the same thing about Ben Roethlisberger.

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Brady, I think was as well, Like all these

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<v Speaker 4>great quarterbacks just kind of get better and better because

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<v Speaker 4>of the like you talked about, the reps, the the

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<v Speaker 4>sustained time within the same system, and the must memory

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<v Speaker 4>that comes with that. And we know Tua was out

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<v Speaker 4>throwing footballs in the beach every day with his dad

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<v Speaker 4>and just harping that must memory of accuracy and armslaught

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<v Speaker 4>and all the stuff that he did that put himself

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<v Speaker 4>in position to be an NFL quarterback in the fifth

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<v Speaker 4>pick of the draft.

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<v Speaker 2>YadA, YadA yah all that.

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<v Speaker 4>My follow up question to that, Kyle is help me

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<v Speaker 4>understand something here, because I talked to myself in the

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<v Speaker 4>podcast a lot. We talked about to his game, and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't get much of a chance to debate this

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<v Speaker 4>with someone that I, you know, think so highly of

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of your opinion of football players. Where is

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<v Speaker 4>this disconnect coming from with quarterback play? Because I see

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<v Speaker 4>it all the time. I see it in draft reports

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<v Speaker 4>like big arm, throwball, Fart's all I care about. But man,

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<v Speaker 4>I watch a lot of football, dude, and what always

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<v Speaker 4>wins to me those that are great traits to have,

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<v Speaker 4>but playing the position, playing on time, seeing the field

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<v Speaker 4>being a field general like, I don't think those things

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<v Speaker 4>are ever going to go out of style. Why is

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<v Speaker 4>there such a disconnect for what actually constitutes good quarterback play?

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<v Speaker 2>Or Am I wrong? Am I completely off based on this?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I be honest with you?

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<v Speaker 3>I think everybody does this at every position. I think

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<v Speaker 3>you get into the pre draft process and it exists

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<v Speaker 3>with offensive linemen. I think it exists with edge rushers.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it exists with wide receivers. It exists with corners.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a slew of examples of corners that get drafted

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<v Speaker 3>off of what they could be as compared to what

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<v Speaker 3>they tangibly are. And it's the Every coach is going

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<v Speaker 3>to have some level of confidence that they can bring

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<v Speaker 3>the best version of a player out, and whether or

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<v Speaker 3>not that's realized oftentimes extends beyond the player himself, and

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<v Speaker 3>it extends beyond the relationship with the coach and the player.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of this is unfortunately circumstantial because of how

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<v Speaker 3>interwoven so many parts of these organizations are. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's very easy to take a step back and

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<v Speaker 3>look at the tools of oh, well, just imagine if

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<v Speaker 3>he does what did what he did on these ten

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<v Speaker 3>plays in this one game every time he drops back

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<v Speaker 3>to pass, and that's so much easier said than done.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do think the physical potential of upside gets

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<v Speaker 3>romanticized a lot at all positions, because when you look

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<v Speaker 3>across the course of history, the reason why so many

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<v Speaker 3>of the highly, highly, highly successful players are successful is

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<v Speaker 3>in part because they had the tools, but they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>just have the physical tools that you can't teach. There

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<v Speaker 3>is a between the ears elements of all of those

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<v Speaker 3>players as well, and I think quarterback, ironically enough, is

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<v Speaker 3>one of the positions where you can be more apt

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<v Speaker 3>to win between the ears just off of that strength itself,

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<v Speaker 3>because there's a chess match that's involved with that position

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<v Speaker 3>that you maybe don't necessarily get so in the weeds

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<v Speaker 3>with out of the spots along the way.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think maybe there's a little bit more ability

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<v Speaker 4>to have those growing pains with the more physical talent

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<v Speaker 4>as well. But man, I just I want a quarterback

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<v Speaker 4>to plays on time and in rhythm and understands the position.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my number one thing. But what the hell do

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<v Speaker 2>I know?

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of that, this offense was clicking on a high

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<v Speaker 4>level last year and kind of slowed down towards the end,

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<v Speaker 4>just kind of to put we're gonna go offense and

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<v Speaker 4>defense are to close this segment, just kind of talking

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<v Speaker 4>about what you think could happen this year offensively and defensively.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just curious what you think this offense could do

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<v Speaker 4>to kind of break the I don't want.

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<v Speaker 2>To call it a shrenks.

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<v Speaker 4>It's two years, but the last two seasons the offense

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<v Speaker 4>tapered off towards end. Your quarterback was down for a

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<v Speaker 4>big chunk of that in the first season, but last

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<v Speaker 4>year tapered off in December and January. Why do you

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<v Speaker 4>think that was and how do they overcome that in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think there's I think back to twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>one and the I guess twenty twenty two and the

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<v Speaker 3>Chargers game was the big game after that season that

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<v Speaker 3>everybody pointed to and all these concerns that we had,

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<v Speaker 3>and then who they played the first week is season,

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<v Speaker 3>they played the Chargers, and you very quickly found that

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<v Speaker 3>they found a way to push the buttons to alleviate

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<v Speaker 3>that individual concern And I'd like to think that coming

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<v Speaker 3>into a new season in twenty twenty four, whatever they

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<v Speaker 3>deemed to be the biggest issue was and there's some

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<v Speaker 3>context clues between adding John new Smith and making overtures

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<v Speaker 3>to Odell Beckham Junior. I think there's some context clues

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<v Speaker 3>there as far as from a personnel standpoint, what maybe

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<v Speaker 3>could be different to give you more clubs in the bag.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think that's what this all boils down to

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<v Speaker 3>is your evolution to not just stay the same at

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<v Speaker 3>what you did the year before, or get better at

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<v Speaker 3>what you did the year before, but to have that

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<v Speaker 3>and then add something else, to do something else as

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<v Speaker 3>the counteraction, and if you log enough time together collectively

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<v Speaker 3>as a unit, even if there's new players that are

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<v Speaker 3>part of it, the greater unit will be able to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>remember that time in twenty twenty two where this team

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<v Speaker 3>did this to us, Let's go back to what we

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<v Speaker 3>did three weeks later when we solve that issue, because

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<v Speaker 3>they're doing that to us in this game three years later.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think part of this is stacking with new variables,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think that's what I'm most excited about for

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<v Speaker 3>the draft is this will kind of be our first

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<v Speaker 3>chance to see outside of John neu Smith, what they're

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<v Speaker 3>committed to investing to give them that extra layer that

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<v Speaker 3>they maybe need to avoid some of the same pitfalls

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<v Speaker 3>as last year.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it does seem like a little bit of the focus,

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<v Speaker 4>at least in the beginning of freegency was more defensively

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<v Speaker 4>to kind of get Anthony Weaver his pieces and parts.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm sure a lot of that has to do

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<v Speaker 4>with McDaniel and Frank Smith being like, oh, we know

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<v Speaker 4>what we got here, we know we are plans going

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<v Speaker 4>to be to go ahead and make, like you said,

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<v Speaker 4>those changes that are necessary to overcome that hurdle.

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<v Speaker 2>But I look at so many teams over the.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the course of two three decades of watching

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<v Speaker 4>the sport that had to kind of get over that hump,

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<v Speaker 4>and it took some time. It's like, I'm with you, man,

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<v Speaker 4>like sometimes it takes some experience, It takes some losing

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<v Speaker 4>to find out what you have to do to win

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<v Speaker 4>those spots and win those games.

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<v Speaker 2>And hopefully that's the case for the Dolphins this year.

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<v Speaker 4>How about defensively, man, I haven't really had a chance

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<v Speaker 4>to pick your brain too much on this. I've asked

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<v Speaker 4>my previous guests a lot about what they think they're

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<v Speaker 4>going to see from this Anthey Weaver led defense. But

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<v Speaker 4>is it going to be, you know, Ravens copy and paste.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it gonna have different elements? Like what's your expectations

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<v Speaker 4>here for what we're going to see you from the

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<v Speaker 4>Dolphins new defensive coordinator here, Anthony Weaver in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of expect it's going to have its own

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<v Speaker 3>unique flavor. When you're early in doctrinated by Rex Ryan,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like that probably never leaves you right as

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<v Speaker 3>far as just the aggressiveness mentality. But he's had so

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<v Speaker 3>many great coaches that he's worked with along the way

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<v Speaker 3>that I think you will see a bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>unique product. And obviously he had the one year stop

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<v Speaker 3>as a defensive coordinator, and there were some circumstances with

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<v Speaker 3>that football team in Houston that I think it's probably

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<v Speaker 3>difficult to get a full grasp based off of that

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<v Speaker 3>personnel because good coaches tailored their system and their scheme

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<v Speaker 3>to the players that they have. And that is like

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<v Speaker 3>we just got done saying on offense, are you going

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<v Speaker 3>to go out and get another back seven, multi use

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<v Speaker 3>player that can play all over the place. Because if

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<v Speaker 3>that's the case, then I expect you you're probably going

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<v Speaker 3>to have a pretty heavy pressure style system that wants

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to match personnel against heavier personnel or

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<v Speaker 3>lighter personnel, and know that you can pick and choose

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<v Speaker 3>matchups when you go man coverage. You can pick and

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<v Speaker 3>choose who you want in the run fit. You can

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<v Speaker 3>pick and choose who you want playing deep or who

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<v Speaker 3>you want playing middle of the field coverage, based on

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<v Speaker 3>what the strengths are the offense that you play. I

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<v Speaker 3>do expect, you know, you will get a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>more rotation up front, which means I think you probably,

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<v Speaker 3>at a minimum, even if Bradley Chubb and Jalen Phillips

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<v Speaker 3>do have ambitious timelines for recovery, I think you probably

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<v Speaker 3>need another pass rusher, and I think you need another

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<v Speaker 3>rotational guy with some ceiling on passing downs on the

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<v Speaker 3>interier of your unit. But I think you will probably

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<v Speaker 3>see some more pressure tendencies than what the Dolphins had

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<v Speaker 3>last year. But I don't know that you'll get like

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<v Speaker 3>the full wink Martin Dale or Rex Ryanix experience as

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<v Speaker 3>an example.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so different in the sense that it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be the same picture pre snap every time. That kind

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<v Speaker 4>of is, you know, developed around confusing the quarterback and

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<v Speaker 4>presenting the same presenting the same presentation every single snap

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<v Speaker 4>to now, it's going to be a little more flexible

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<v Speaker 4>and different. I think they're with what they did in

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<v Speaker 4>Baltimore the last couple of years under Mike McDonald and

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<v Speaker 4>Anthony we run the defensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>So good stuff there.

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<v Speaker 4>We've finally hit the point you've all been waiting for.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna talk draft for two full segments here coming

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<v Speaker 4>up after the break. My guest today, Kyle Krabs Lockdown

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<v Speaker 4>Dolphins podcast on the Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield,

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<v Speaker 4>brought to you by Auto Nation.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Kyle, I tease this segment.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know when it was. I've lost track. We've

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<v Speaker 4>done four segments down two to go. I talked about

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<v Speaker 4>I have done several mock drafts where I kind of

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<v Speaker 4>tried to take different approaches to help myself understand and

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<v Speaker 4>find out exactly where the strong points, the soft points,

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<v Speaker 4>the inflection points, the markets, strengths and weaknesses are for

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<v Speaker 4>each position at each spot of this draft. I know

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<v Speaker 4>you know about all this because I know you do

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<v Speaker 4>this yourself as well. Just kind of trying to put

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<v Speaker 4>myself as best in the shoes of Chris Career and

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<v Speaker 4>the Dolphins front office and kind of playing through these scenarios.

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<v Speaker 4>I know you've worked with you know, for big time

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<v Speaker 4>publications and been involved with teams and talked to scouts

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<v Speaker 4>and stuff like.

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<v Speaker 2>That around the legue.

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<v Speaker 4>Our teams doing this, our teams cranking out mock drafts

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<v Speaker 4>and trying to figure out what it could look like

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<v Speaker 4>come draft night.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is about the time of year where

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<v Speaker 3>they really get into some of those hypotheticals. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's for the media. Part of our whole subculture is

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<v Speaker 3>mock drafts and player rankings throughout the season, and you

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<v Speaker 3>get to the early pre draft process, and then there's

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<v Speaker 3>another wave because it changes with free agency. But this

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<v Speaker 3>is really the time for teams once they've set and

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<v Speaker 3>finalized their boards, which is something that happens within the

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<v Speaker 3>first two weeks of April, and that all the pro

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<v Speaker 3>days are done, they're done collecting informational players. You sit down,

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<v Speaker 3>you really finalize everything, and that's when you really start

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<v Speaker 3>to look at and say, Okay, well, what happens if

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<v Speaker 3>this happens, what happens, if that happens, what happens if

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<v Speaker 3>this player's here. What happens if these three players are here?

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<v Speaker 3>What happens if all five of these players are off

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<v Speaker 3>the board? And that's where that is an exercise that

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<v Speaker 3>does happen in some places that I have been, and

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<v Speaker 3>we've heard from NFL personnel and decently ranking NFL personnel

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<v Speaker 3>that they liked utilizing some of the tools that we

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<v Speaker 3>had for going through some of those hypotheticals like that,

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<v Speaker 3>that is a thing that does indeed exist. So yes,

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<v Speaker 3>to answer your question, just not as excessively and obsessively

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<v Speaker 3>as the media dots.

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<v Speaker 4>I just got into it one day and these are like,

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<v Speaker 4>I see it was from Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>I must have.

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<v Speaker 4>I must have been after like naptime or something. I

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<v Speaker 4>was just cranking out some mock drafts. But to your point,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, obsessively, maybe it is a good word for it,

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<v Speaker 4>because you don't know how accurate and this can possibly be.

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<v Speaker 4>I think somebody's mock draft machines. They're all great, but

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<v Speaker 4>they all have inherent flaws, just inherently. There's no other

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<v Speaker 4>word to describe that. Like this one for instance, So

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<v Speaker 4>this is my elite top three receiver falls more than

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<v Speaker 4>he should mock draft. And in this case, Kyle, if

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna pull my screen up here for you, it

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<v Speaker 4>was Marvin Harrison. We know he's not gonna be there

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<v Speaker 4>at nine, right, He's not gonna last to the Chicago

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<v Speaker 4>Bears at nine. And if he is, they're probably gonna

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<v Speaker 4>take him in and paired with Caleb Williams. But in

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<v Speaker 4>this instance, I traded what in my opinion, was highway

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<v Speaker 4>robbery becas I was able to get you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>was able to get up there for a pretty cheap

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<v Speaker 4>but it allowed me to go get Marvin Harrison. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's how I feel about Harrison, Neighbors, and Oduns. I

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<v Speaker 4>think they're all premier number one receivers in this league.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there a player, is there a situation a scenario ethough,

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<v Speaker 4>you can see where the Dolphins move not just a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit, but way up in the draft and go

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<v Speaker 4>pluck one of these premier players.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably not, just because I think you have to. You

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<v Speaker 3>don't just have to pay the price to get there.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's gonna be teams in the teams that are

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<v Speaker 3>trying to accomplish the same things. So now you're getting

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<v Speaker 3>in an open bidding war. And I think One of

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<v Speaker 3>the things that Miami has shown through free agency in

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<v Speaker 3>each of the last two seasons and generally speaking, is

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<v Speaker 3>they do have some restraint. And I know there's people

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<v Speaker 3>who are fans of the team who maybe not don't

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<v Speaker 3>feel that way, but it really does seem like they

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<v Speaker 3>know what they feel the cost is of something and

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<v Speaker 3>they're not going to go crazy. You know, the Tyreek

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<v Speaker 3>Hill trade is something in its own animal because it's

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<v Speaker 3>the best wide receiver in the NFL, becomes available in

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<v Speaker 3>his physical prime at age twenty nine, and you had

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<v Speaker 3>an opportunity to bring a player in that really accentuated

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<v Speaker 3>what you want to do to offensively like that, that's

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<v Speaker 3>a totally different ballgame, right, So for Miami to know

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<v Speaker 3>we're coming from twenty one to get into the top ten,

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<v Speaker 3>to go get a premiere wide receiver as an example,

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<v Speaker 3>I just feel like that cost is so high and

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<v Speaker 3>it kind of flies in the face of what everything

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<v Speaker 3>else this offseason has been about. So that for me,

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<v Speaker 3>if somebody falls to eighteen, I think that's a different

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<v Speaker 3>story than if somebody falls to nine with the Bears.

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<v Speaker 4>Just for me, I'm glad you said that, because my

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<v Speaker 4>next my next simulation here is just that real quick

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<v Speaker 4>for posterity. I showed a screen to Kyle. It'd be

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<v Speaker 4>cool to tell you guys that and not tell you

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<v Speaker 4>the mock draft I did here. So I moved back,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, Rather, I moved up and got Marvin Harrison,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I had the sixty fourth picks. I must

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<v Speaker 4>have traded back again with the Chiefs. I dipped into

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<v Speaker 4>next year's capital to get this move done. So I

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<v Speaker 4>got Jayden Hicks from Washington State, Go Kooks, and then

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<v Speaker 4>Mason McCormick, Theo Johnson, and Jordan Jefferson round up my

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<v Speaker 4>draft there. So that was one of the scenarios I

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<v Speaker 4>played out. Kyle alluded to the idea of going up

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit, and I think you and I are

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<v Speaker 4>pretty in lockstep for this, and we're gonna play a

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<v Speaker 4>game with the third segment taking a part of our

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<v Speaker 4>favorite prospects for each twenty first and fifty fifth pick

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<v Speaker 4>in the draft. But I think this guy is probably

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<v Speaker 4>the one that you and I have talked about the

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<v Speaker 4>most in terms of Hey, if he falls to sixteen,

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<v Speaker 4>seventeen eighteen, maybe it's worth the idea trading a third

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<v Speaker 4>round pick to go up and get him, But it's

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<v Speaker 4>this one, Kyle. I moved up with the Seattle Seahawks,

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<v Speaker 4>who I think would probably be hard pressed to not

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<v Speaker 4>take Troy Fatanu. If he is there at that spot,

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<v Speaker 4>keep him in Seattle, go ahead and solve an issue

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<v Speaker 4>on your offensive line guard tackle prospect.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I just love him so much.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's a plus left guard right away, a

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<v Speaker 4>future tackle in the league as well. And then I

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<v Speaker 4>went I wound up well, okay, so this example is

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<v Speaker 4>not great because I have on you. I saw that

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<v Speaker 4>second big I made another move a camp and got

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<v Speaker 4>laat lot To. We'll talk about him more in a second,

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<v Speaker 4>but essentially this was my like, go get two players

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<v Speaker 4>draft and pretty much exhaust the rest of your resources,

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<v Speaker 4>because I didn't pick again until the late in the

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<v Speaker 4>sixth round for Anthony gold, the receiver out of Oregon State,

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<v Speaker 4>and then Trevin Wallace from Kentucky. But not a bad

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<v Speaker 4>mock draft though, but Fatanu a couple spots up. Just

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<v Speaker 4>tell me about the idea of moving a few spots

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<v Speaker 4>up in the draft. How many guys do you think

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<v Speaker 4>are worth that and what is the cost to go

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<v Speaker 4>up just four or five spots in this range of

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<v Speaker 4>the first round.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I did a ten year study and it

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<v Speaker 3>was about teams coming up to the early twenties. So

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<v Speaker 3>we like, the price is going to be a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit higher here than what the study was because it

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<v Speaker 3>was more through the lens of Miami coming down hypothetically

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<v Speaker 3>if they didn't like what was their twenty one and

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<v Speaker 3>the trade value chart exchanges are usually the past ten years.

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<v Speaker 3>On average, it's about in favor eight or nine points

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<v Speaker 3>on the traditional trade value chart for the team that

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<v Speaker 3>is coming down. So that means you, as the team

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<v Speaker 3>that goes up, you have to incentivize the other team

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<v Speaker 3>by paying more than the pick that you're acquiring is worth.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you look at the trade value chart, just

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<v Speaker 3>hypothetically you mentioned Seattle, the sixteenth pick, according to Jimmy

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<v Speaker 3>Johnson trade chart is worth a thousand points. On the

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<v Speaker 3>trade value chart, number one pick is worth three thousand points.

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<v Speaker 3>The last fifty picks in the draft are worth one point, right,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's on a descending scale. Miami's pick at twenty

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<v Speaker 3>one is worth eight hundred points, which makes it a

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<v Speaker 3>difference of two hundred points, which is the exact value

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<v Speaker 3>of the seventy eighth overall pick in the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where it gets tough.

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<v Speaker 3>I think for Miami is you don't have a three,

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<v Speaker 3>so if you're gonna go up, it probably involves a

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<v Speaker 3>pick swap involving both twenty one and fifty five to

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<v Speaker 3>then go up a spot and then get something back.

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<v Speaker 3>Hypothetically Seattle, let's see they have eighty one, which is

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<v Speaker 3>worth one hundred and eighty five points, which would mean

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<v Speaker 3>they need to pay Seattle about forty points worth of pick,

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<v Speaker 3>which is an early day three draft pick. You could

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<v Speaker 3>theoretically use one of the you're three from next year,

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<v Speaker 3>knowing you're getting a three back because that pick is

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<v Speaker 3>devalued because you have to wait twelve months suspended. So

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<v Speaker 3>something like that, I think you'd have to involve both

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<v Speaker 3>of your Day one and Day two picks to be

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<v Speaker 3>involved in a trade up, just based off of the

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<v Speaker 3>history and track record in recent history of deals in

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<v Speaker 3>this area. The draft getting done because you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>the three to just throw the three in, But.

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<v Speaker 4>You like that the idea, like, is there a player

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<v Speaker 4>that you think makes it that far that you would

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<v Speaker 4>be gung ho about?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it Fatanu?

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<v Speaker 3>It would be Fotanu yeah, is the guy who I

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<v Speaker 3>think is a long term stud at tackle, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think could could be a plus starter for you inside

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<v Speaker 3>in the short term. Not this similar to how that

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<v Speaker 3>team chose to handle whin Lermie tunsl slid to them right,

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<v Speaker 3>and that twenty sixteen season, Tunsol plays at guard with

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<v Speaker 3>Brandon Albert to tackle, and then long term Tunsil takes

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<v Speaker 3>over that spot until he's trained.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's too easy the comparison to me, I just

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<v Speaker 4>I love the idea of that. We'll see what happens

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<v Speaker 4>coming draft night. My next move before we get into

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<v Speaker 4>the actual stick and pick model I made here is

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<v Speaker 4>the move back concept. And the reason I ran into

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<v Speaker 4>this so often was because I kept getting the same

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<v Speaker 4>in three or four guys that I like at pick

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<v Speaker 4>twenty one, and Chris Graywell tell you there's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be warrant you guys on the board they like in

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<v Speaker 4>that spot. So there could be the idea of stick

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<v Speaker 4>and pick move back, get some extra draft picks. I

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<v Speaker 4>love the idea of getting back into that third and

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<v Speaker 4>fourth round ranch.

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<v Speaker 2>So I love the top one fifty years so on

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<v Speaker 2>this year's class.

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<v Speaker 4>But here's this one, Kyle, I moved back into the

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<v Speaker 4>second round. So for the third straight year no first

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<v Speaker 4>round pick. PFF hated my selection of Xavier Lagette at

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<v Speaker 4>pick thirty six in the second round. There, I then

0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:16.119
<v Speaker 4>doubled up on Zach Fraser and Christian Haynes, the center

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<v Speaker 4>from West Virginia and the guard from Yukon. I love

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<v Speaker 4>what I did to my offensive line on that spot.

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<v Speaker 4>And then Theo Johnson's kind of on all these mock drafts.

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<v Speaker 4>I like his game on Day three from Penn State,

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<v Speaker 4>Jeorge Jefferson again, Brendan Jackson or Brendan Jackson, the wshut

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<v Speaker 4>and Gokooch and Tyler Owens at the end of that draft.

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<v Speaker 4>So the idea of moving back and getting two second

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<v Speaker 4>round picks, you say yeay or nay, and kind of

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<v Speaker 4>what's the position or player you like in that range.

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<v Speaker 2>If you make that happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think if you move out of the first round,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's really when you start to get into

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<v Speaker 3>a sweet spot with some of the interior offensive linemen,

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<v Speaker 3>whether that be Zach Frasier, who I think has guard

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<v Speaker 3>center flexibility, or Jackson powers Johnson from Oregon who sounds

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<v Speaker 3>like maybe the league is a little bit lower on

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<v Speaker 3>than the mock drafts from February that have him going

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<v Speaker 3>in the top fifteen, or you mentioned Christian Haynes, who

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a huge, huge fan of. I think there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of scheme translatability there for him as a run

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:16.359
<v Speaker 3>blocker in this offense. Those players, I think are top

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<v Speaker 3>fifty players that maybe if you're getting into a conversation

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<v Speaker 3>about positional value and where they authentically rank on the

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<v Speaker 3>draft bar, twenty one might be too early to feel

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<v Speaker 3>like you're maximizing the value of your pick. So if

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<v Speaker 3>you pick them fifteen spots later and got more picks back,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's the argument for going that route if

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<v Speaker 3>you wanted to, just because I think then you're maybe

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<v Speaker 3>not reaching for a need, you're instead finding appropriate value

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<v Speaker 3>for that first investment opportunity that you have.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the way this draft shakes out, and if

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<v Speaker 4>you take a look at potential needs for the Dolphins,

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<v Speaker 4>and we talked about this in the first episode, how

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:56.359
<v Speaker 4>we don't want a draft for need specifically, but just

0:25:56.400 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 4>in terms of how you could manipulate the board to

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<v Speaker 4>get your elf in position to take the best player

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<v Speaker 4>who also satisfies a need for twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>You can do that too.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was gonna flash some more mock drafts that

0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 4>you hear, but I think it's best to move on

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:10.760
<v Speaker 4>to the next segment because essentially I'm covering the players

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:12.200
<v Speaker 4>I like in this next one. So we'll go ahead

0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 4>and take our last break right there and come back

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<v Speaker 4>on the other side and talk about these picks.

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:17.359
<v Speaker 2>Man, We're gonna go back and forth.

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<v Speaker 4>Kyle's gonna pick a guy, I'm gonna pick a guy,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're gonna see who we like the best of

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<v Speaker 4>the end in terms of who our options are at

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<v Speaker 4>pick twenty one and pick fifty five. That is next

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:28.159
<v Speaker 4>my guest today, Kyle Krabs and Lockdown Dolphins podcast on

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<v Speaker 4>the Draft Time Podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to

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<v Speaker 4>you by Auto Nation. So the reason I did not

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<v Speaker 4>get into those other mock drafts, which featured pretty much

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<v Speaker 4>each one of these guys that I'm gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 4>here in this segment, Kyle, is that I think it

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<v Speaker 4>picked twenty one, there is a really good chance you

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<v Speaker 4>can stick and pick and find a guy that satisfies

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<v Speaker 4>a need.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a guy that I have big.

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<v Speaker 4>Hopes for in terms of his long term upside and

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 4>immediate impact upside as well. And so with that in mind,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to play a game much like Jigsaw from

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:03.359
<v Speaker 4>the Saw movies, this one though, no risk of your life,

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:05.439
<v Speaker 4>just trying to have fun here on a podcast. The

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:07.639
<v Speaker 4>twenty first pick in the draft for the Miami Dolphins

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 4>or blocks to Miami Dolphins, I should say this year.

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:14.119
<v Speaker 4>And there are so many, so many variations and variables

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:16.520
<v Speaker 4>that could happen that would produce a board that gives

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 4>us different options at the spot. And I'm curious just

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 4>to kind of I put a list together my guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I think could be there that I would seleckt off of.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's go.

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<v Speaker 4>Ahead and use your big board here and ask the

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<v Speaker 4>question to you first, who's the number one guy that

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<v Speaker 4>could conceivably be there at twenty one that you are

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<v Speaker 4>saying that's my guy?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to go get him and tell us why.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'd like to use the disclaimer to talk about

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 3>the two players that are I think home run selections

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 3>for Miami that I no longer think do get there,

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:48.199
<v Speaker 3>because if they were in play here I and not

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<v Speaker 3>that long ago, maybe it was perceived that they could

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.399
<v Speaker 3>beat Felton, who is one of them from Washington, the

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<v Speaker 3>offensive lineman. There's just so much smoke there, and it

0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 3>really feels like there is a lot of teams in

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<v Speaker 3>the teams that knee offensive lineman, and it feels like

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:12.879
<v Speaker 3>he's kind of surpassed potentially Talis Fuaga from Oregon State

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 3>and potentially passed Olufushanu from Penn State. So I think

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:19.919
<v Speaker 3>that puts him in a stratosphere where if he's in

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<v Speaker 3>play at twenty one, if he told me he's on

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:23.400
<v Speaker 3>the board of twenty one, that would be my pick.

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 3>If you told me Byron Murphy, the defensive tackle from

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:29.199
<v Speaker 3>Texas was on the board and Troy Fatana was not,

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<v Speaker 3>that would be my pick. I don't think Murphy makes

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 3>it either. Daniel Jeremiah just came out this week and

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<v Speaker 3>said he feels Murphy is the name that he most

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 3>consistently hears across the league. Is the sleeper top ten

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 3>draft selection. Atlanta ranis class well. Atlanta's the team I

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 3>think you look at the top ten that probably makes

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 3>the most sense. They're often pegged as the first defensive

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 3>player off the board, landing spot with all the quarterbacks

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 3>were expecting to go, and I think the take backs

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 3>that up. That's a player for me that I have

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 3>a top ten great on in this class. I have

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 3>top ten grades on both Altano and Byron Murphy. And

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 3>I did all of my assessments through the lens of

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 3>what we anticipate the Dolphins are gonna want to need

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 3>and the traits that they like based on what we're

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 3>expecting it to look like. So those are two guys

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 3>I think are absolute home run selections.

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 4>If they're there, Okay, cut them off, then take them

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 4>off the list because I agree with you on Fatano.

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm mostly there on Murphy, especially after the DJ comment,

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 4>but I think Fatana is long gone. Let's go ahead

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 4>and remove both those guys. And there's still probably some

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:30.280
<v Speaker 4>more names here that you and I would bandy about

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 4>about who actually could be there, But go ahead and

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 4>take let's go.

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Let's take three guys each.

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 4>Start with your yours first, and I'll go or alternate

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 4>turns the first guy removing Fatana Murphy.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's who's next on the list for you?

0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 4>There?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 3>So I would have it's three defensive Lineman's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>the tier of guys that I expect to be there.

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 3>Or I have a realistic chance to be there. It's

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Jared Verse from Florida State, Johnny Newton, the defensive tackle

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 3>from Illinois, and Laatu Latu of UCLA are the three there.

0:29:57.760 --> 0:29:59.719
<v Speaker 3>I think two out of those three probably do make

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 3>it too. I think you get a choice out of

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 3>at least two of those three guys.

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 4>That's those are the guys that kept coming up in

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 4>my mock drafts a lot to Adverse and then a

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 4>combination of Newton and Murphy, but Murphy would tend to

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 4>go a little bit earlier as well. I'll go ahead

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 4>and throw the maybe, I don't know if it's the curveball.

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 4>I guess the next line of thinking there because you

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 4>talked about this and we're on a segment six now

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 4>of six, and so I forget when it happened, but

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 4>it was either the first episode or this episode. We

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 4>talked about flexibility in the back end and going after

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 4>more you know, chess pieces to move around. It creates

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 4>more of an idea identity of sending pressure in your

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 4>front seven or your front you know, five or six,

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:36.959
<v Speaker 4>whatever the numbers are at any given time. And it's

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 4>Cooper Degene from Iowa because you know, I look at

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 4>this defense and the Ravens the last couple of years

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 4>operating from a high high percentage of big nickel three

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 4>safeties and two cornerbacks on the field, plenty of dime

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 4>defense as well, and we just rattled off a bunch

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 4>of defensive backs in this roster that we love. And

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 4>if you want to go ahead and play five or

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 4>six minute time, maybe maybe Cooper Degene can come in

0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 4>right away and be a slot corner slow, a big

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 4>nickel safety and kind of almost a Kyle Hamilton role

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 4>where he uses that freak athletic ability and just overall

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 4>versatility to kind of impact your defensive backfield. I don't

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 4>hate the concept of that, but I mean, you checked

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 4>the bucks in the first few guys, but I think

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 4>Degene would be the next guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Throwing there as a possibility at twenty one. What say you?

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think there's a lot of overlap there. I

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 3>do like him better as a safety. I think some

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 3>of the mystery and intrigue there comes with the Jalen

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 3>Ramsey element of a player that can move around so much.

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Is Ramsey really you're Kyle Hamilton type of player at times?

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 3>That's not to say even if that is the case,

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 3>I think Degene does really well playing zones with vision

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 3>from depth and tackling and running the alley from depth.

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 3>So I think that's the makings of a long term tackle.

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 3>And obviously you have Jordan Poyer here towards the later

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 3>end stages of his career, so that is a long

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 3>term need that I think you could have a rotational

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 3>spot available for as well.

0:31:58.600 --> 0:31:58.959
<v Speaker 1>Travis.

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:01.239
<v Speaker 3>I would want to just throw an offensive lineman out there,

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 3>because I know there's some Dolphins fans I know would

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 3>be absolutely devastated to not here an offensive line candidate year.

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 3>Whichever of Talise Fuaga or Graham Barton makes it to

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 3>twenty one, I would prefer Fuaga, and if it was

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 3>Barton on the table, I personally would like some of

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 3>the defensive options better. But that's kind of the names

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 3>that I'm looking for on the offensive line as well.

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 4>I think I'm a little bit higher on Fuologga than

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 4>you are, but I would love him. I think that

0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 4>his tape was really really good last year at Oregon State,

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 4>and he kind of gets off the ball quickly.

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 2>He can play tackle and guard.

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 4>I know there's some discussion about whether or not he's

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 4>a tackle of guard but I think that they can

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 4>make it work here at either spot for him, just

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 4>and how he fits what this offense wants to do.

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 2>So I agree with that.

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 4>I did put JC Latham on here, but that's probably

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 4>not a realistic possibility, so we'll go ahead and include

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 4>him in the Fetano.

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 2>And Byron Murphy category. So that's pick twenty one.

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 4>We've discussed this about the idea of the move back

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 4>and how much time do we have here. We got

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 4>about seven minutes left from the chest, so let's go

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 4>ahead and just jump into fifty five. We won't concern

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 4>ourselves with what could happen in that early second round range.

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 4>If there's a guy that you list in this range

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 4>that you think you have to go up for, you

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 4>can go ahead and clarify that for us. But pick

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 4>fifty five. Man, My list is much longer here than

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 4>is twenty one. But I'm curious to hear what you're

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 4>thinking at the spot positions a number of players, and

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 4>just kind of what you think could happen come draft night.

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think this is kind of where you're in

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 3>the honey hole for intier offensive lineman, whether that's you know,

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Jackson Powers Johnson, I know there's some medical questions there

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 3>that a couple of concussions I believe on his resume,

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 3>dealt with some lower body injuries throughout the course of

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 3>the season in twenty twenty three. I think you'd be

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 3>better guard for Miami than center. I think you'd be

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 3>doing Brewer disservice to not play him at center personally,

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 3>but Powis Johnson, Christian Haynes, I think Cooper Beebe's in

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 3>the conversation. There is somebody at Kansas State who played

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 3>offensive tackle but has that road grading mass, big gravitational pool.

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 3>I'd invoked the name Michael Hall from Ohio State and

0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 3>into your defensive lineman. I think would get really exciting

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 3>there as well. And then maybe if you wanted to

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:08.359
<v Speaker 3>really invest in another pass catcher, you could go wide

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 3>receiver with Ricky Piersoll from Florida. Of I know some

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 3>people don't want Florida wide receivers. You's origin from Marizona State,

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:16.799
<v Speaker 3>so don't be too hard on him.

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 1>And then.

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 3>If you want to go tight end, I think Ben

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 3>Sinnett Kansas State is an.

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Absolute chess piece. Maller Man.

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 3>He's super athletic, but has good tape and has good

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 3>potential in the passing game, So I think that's a

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:34.839
<v Speaker 3>blend of skills that the tight end room right now

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 3>I think has players that have individual strengths, but I

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 3>think he could be all of them in one player.

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:42.719
<v Speaker 4>I feel like this position kind of has I feel like,

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 4>almost more confident about what it looks like because there's

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:47.279
<v Speaker 4>so many more options to meet here at twenty one,

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 4>it's kind of uddeled and you don't know who might

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:50.479
<v Speaker 4>be there. But I like, I have like twelve guys

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 4>listen to here, man, there elect for this fifty to

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:54.239
<v Speaker 4>fifth pick, and you checked a bunch of those off

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 4>Christian Haines as I actually I'm going to ask you

0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:58.759
<v Speaker 4>to make your two selections just based on how you

0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 4>think it could go here to close this podcast out,

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 4>spoiler minds a lot to at twenty one Christian Haynes

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 4>at fifty five in terms of guys I think could

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 4>be there. They would make this football team better and

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.360
<v Speaker 4>give us good long term prospects for the future. But

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:11.240
<v Speaker 4>those are the two guys that I'm kind of locked

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 4>in on right now at this point in time. But man,

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:16.719
<v Speaker 4>you mentioned Haynes to the receivers, I think xavierl Gets

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 4>probably long gone by now. I think probably the same

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 4>case for Xavier Worthy. I'm a big Roman Wilson fan.

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:24.399
<v Speaker 4>Still the Michigan the Michigan player who kind of lines

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:26.319
<v Speaker 4>up all over the place and can get vertical and

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 4>can separate and win.

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Javon Baker from Central Florida.

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 4>Maybe a little bit early on him, but I think

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 4>that his vertical skill set could help up this offense,

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 4>kind of create some more space underneath for guys like

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 4>Reakin Wadle to not run all those takeoff routes and

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 4>only be utilized on seventy percent of your snaps. Jermaine

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:43.479
<v Speaker 4>Burton is a fascinating study to me because he's always open,

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:46.360
<v Speaker 4>just didn't really have the ball playing from his quarterback

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 4>last year to make big productive plays. And we'll see

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:50.399
<v Speaker 4>where he winds up going off the board. But those

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 4>are some names I'm a big fan of. You mentioned,

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 4>Senate Man. He's so much fun to watch. And then

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go ahead and throw another defensive back in

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:57.840
<v Speaker 4>here on you guys, and Michigan's Mike Sandra.

0:35:57.960 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Still.

0:35:58.400 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I think I said that right the slot.

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:02.359
<v Speaker 3>Long gone by fifty five. He's a stud man.

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 1>He's a dude. He's a total stud.

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:06.759
<v Speaker 4>He kind of reminds me like a little bit, like

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 4>a little bit of Antoine Winfield Junior. A different position,

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:12.440
<v Speaker 4>but like just the mentality that that the temperament that

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:13.839
<v Speaker 4>he plays with the kay reminds me of him.

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:16.440
<v Speaker 3>So good stuf there ahead. I know we're up against it,

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:18.400
<v Speaker 3>but it is crazy. He played wide receiver until two

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:22.400
<v Speaker 3>years ago. I mean like he has these crazy instincts

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 3>playing nickel corner and he's only been doing it for

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:26.880
<v Speaker 3>two years. He's an absolute stud, so.

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 4>Only going to get better. Plus like a temperature riser. Right,

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 4>That's my one my terms. I U from the Move

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:34.320
<v Speaker 4>the Sticks podcast, just an Ultimate Dog, Kyle. I teased

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:37.240
<v Speaker 4>it twenty one fifty five on the clock. What's your picks?

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Jared Vers and Jackson Powers Johnson, I.

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Think we both did pretty good here, sir. I think

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 2>we've both made the football team a lot better today.

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.359
<v Speaker 1>So Jared Verse, I think a lot too.

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.400
<v Speaker 3>Ultimately, I think the medicals is the conversation get him

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 3>to slide. I think he the pass rus ceiling is

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 3>going to be too tempting for somebody, So I think

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:57.880
<v Speaker 3>Verse ends up being the one that's on the board.

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 3>I they like take making defensive lineman and ed rushers,

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 3>and Mike McDaniel gave it a little shout out talking

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:06.839
<v Speaker 3>about those kinds of players when he's been asked about

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 3>in the past, and then like, I don't I think

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:13.919
<v Speaker 3>Christian Haynes goes before Jackson powers Johnson. So I think

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:16.840
<v Speaker 3>there's there's some momentum there for that. And because of that,

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:20.320
<v Speaker 3>I think Jackson powers Johnson kind of gets into Miami stratosphere.

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 3>I think that they would take him and put him

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 3>in a right guard.

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, you allude to Dolphins Twitter and the reactions.

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 4>If they get JPJ at fifty five, they can go

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 4>ahead and shut down Twitter for the day beause it's

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:31.359
<v Speaker 4>going to be an ultimate win as far as those

0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:32.919
<v Speaker 4>guys are concerned, becuse they probably a lot of people

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:34.719
<v Speaker 4>probably want my twenty one and getting at fifty five

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:36.440
<v Speaker 4>right to talk about medical and all that stuff could

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:36.800
<v Speaker 4>play into it.

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:38.120
<v Speaker 2>So really good stuff there, Kyle.

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:39.920
<v Speaker 4>We have two minutes and twelve seconds left on this

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 4>call at Grind the Tape on Twitter, Locked on Dolphins Podcast,

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 4>locked on NFL Scouting. Tell the folks where they can

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 4>find you Draft Week, Draft Day, what you're working on

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:51.240
<v Speaker 4>Just go ahead and talk about yourself for two minutes here.

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so locked on Dolphins. We will be doing a

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:57.719
<v Speaker 3>bunch of shows this week. You can find it on

0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:00.839
<v Speaker 3>YouTube where you listen your Forvorite podcast, Joe Marino and

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:03.280
<v Speaker 3>I for Lockdown NFL Scouting. We'll be doing live streams

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.359
<v Speaker 3>for the NFL Draft on the Lockdown NFL.

0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Scouting YouTube channel.

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 3>I'll be dropping my horizontal team big board and my

0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:15.319
<v Speaker 3>positional rankings, all of that over on Touchdown Miami, which

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:17.319
<v Speaker 3>is on Substack, which is where I do my long

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 3>form written content covering the Dolphins.

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 1>There.

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 3>So and Travis, you mentioned at grinding the tape on

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 3>just about any social media platform is a good way

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:26.279
<v Speaker 3>to find me as well.

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 4>You're the best buddy. You just brought us home for

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:32.280
<v Speaker 4>the draft and I'm officially done. That's it for draft

0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 4>content until we actually select players. So, Kyle, it's a

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:39.400
<v Speaker 4>blast every year. Man camp pre season when we got

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 4>to see you down here, man, I know you know

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:42.720
<v Speaker 4>the family, Okay, perfect.

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:45.839
<v Speaker 3>It's a little easier when you're not expecting, which was

0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 3>our family was expecting an addition last summer. So we'll

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 3>do a camp pre season and regular season will definitely

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:53.360
<v Speaker 3>be down all my.

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:55.479
<v Speaker 4>Favorite trand camp practice the ones's being watching together, my friend,

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you again so much, and we'll talk soon and enjoy.

0:38:57.880 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Your Draft Time man.

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:03.399
<v Speaker 4>Thanks Travis and away he goes really fun podcast there.

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:05.879
<v Speaker 4>I am stoked though, to be perfect honest with you guys,

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:07.880
<v Speaker 4>the draft season is officially over and we get to

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 4>just talk about the players we acquire.

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 2>On the next edition of the Draft Time podcast.

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:14.800
<v Speaker 4>Friday morning, we'll recap the Thursday night Round one of

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:18.720
<v Speaker 4>the draft, Saturday morning recapping Day two what happens on Friday,

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:21.399
<v Speaker 4>and then we'll bring it home on Sunday or maybe

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:23.359
<v Speaker 4>Saturday night with a recap of all that. Plus we'll

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 4>have Mike McDaniel and Chris career press conferences from each

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 4>of those days plenty to come your way right into

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<v Speaker 4>Rookie Mini caamps OTA's We're gonna be busy, guys. It's

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 4>that time of year again, right before summer break where

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:35.359
<v Speaker 4>things really ratchet up here, So check all that out.

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<v Speaker 4>Plus Thursday night, April twenty fifth, eight o'clock Bayside Market

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<v Speaker 4>Peer five on Beautiful Biz Game Boulevard, we'll have a

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<v Speaker 4>with myself, OJ McDuffie, Jalen Phillips, all kinds of Dolphins

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:51.800
<v Speaker 4>alumni gonna be appearing on the dais for that panel.

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<v Speaker 4>Plus we'll have a three hour radio program meet Seth

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<v Speaker 4>and OJ from the same location.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be doing both double dipping on both of those

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