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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI.

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Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt it's kicking off

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Speaker 2: our number two here. I thought we would do a little,

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Speaker 2: a little fantasy football draft.

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Speaker 1: Yeup for that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to get one loaded here my my hotel room.

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Speaker 1: My internet is not the swiftest, but I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: get one up here.

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Speaker 2: Let's see you mean NFL draft, right, NFL draft. Yes,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do a little a little mock drafting here.

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Speaker 1: Why not.

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Speaker 2: We've we've seen some senior Bowl practice and let's let's

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Speaker 2: see what we can come up with here. I'm actually

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Speaker 2: using the Pro Footballnetwork dot COM's mock draftable here, so

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Speaker 2: a little different. Not we're not going to use the

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Speaker 2: one on Pro Football Focus today. So we're coming up

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Speaker 2: here on our pick at twenty. We got a couple

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Speaker 2: of trade offers. I'm going to reject reject those right now.

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Speaker 2: We're not trading at this point. So in one, number

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Speaker 2: one was Kayleb Williams, Drake May, second, Marvin Harrison, third,

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Speaker 2: Joe All fourth, Forshanu fifth, Dallas Turner, sixth, Malik Neighbors, seventh,

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Speaker 2: Terry and Arnold eighth, khu Leid McKinstry ninth, Jaden Daniels

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Speaker 2: went ten, Cooper Dejene eleven, brock Bauers twelve, Latu Latu

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Speaker 2: went thirteen, Dounezia went fourteenth, Jerseon Newton fifteenth, Chop Robinson sixteenth,

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Speaker 2: Nate Wiggins seventeen, Keyon Coleman eighteenth, and J. C. Latham

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Speaker 2: went nineteenth. To the Rams And we were on the

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Speaker 2: board here on the clock at twenty versus available.

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Speaker 1: We really don't need him.

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Speaker 4: No, I didn't love the Yellen, but there were some

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Speaker 4: names there that didn't break my heart that fell up

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Speaker 4: the board at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Talisi Fuaga is available.

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Speaker 1: I thought he had a really strong day yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got Brian Thomas, you got Quinny and Mitchell Tyler, Geiton.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of different a lot of offensive linemen

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Speaker 2: there that would really fit the Bill.

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Speaker 4: May attractive, Guidon's attractive is attractive.

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Speaker 3: I would bet JPJ is probably still available with Center.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, remember your same if we're not trading back, some

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Speaker 4: of these answers would be made by now. I mean,

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Speaker 4: did they sign a center? Did they sign? But all

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Speaker 4: things being equal, do you lean any direction. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I would think, like Giton is one of the rarest

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Speaker 4: guys out there, but I think as we stand right now,

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Speaker 4: they're a little better at tackle than they are center

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Speaker 4: or corner.

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Speaker 1: I hear you. That's a tough That's a tough one.

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Speaker 4: Even Geydon versus Laga is a tough one because I

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Speaker 4: think Flaga starts right from the start and is a

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Speaker 4: right tackle and is a masher where Dyiton.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'll need time, but he's a

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Speaker 3: difference season.

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Speaker 1: He's a left tackle all the way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's been playing a lot of right

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Speaker 4: down there, but I think he's built like a left

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Speaker 4: and you leave Jones at the right.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, that would be the decision that you

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Speaker 2: would have to make in that situation. Okay, do do

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Speaker 2: we want to move Jones over to left tackle and

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Speaker 2: plug in a right tackle right away? Or do we

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Speaker 2: want to go get this kid who might be an

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Speaker 2: elite left tackle and just leave Jones at right.

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Speaker 1: Tackle all right?

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Speaker 4: Which is a hard thing to tell, you know, does

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Speaker 4: Jones have a major preference? Do they think he's better

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Speaker 4: at one or the other? All things being equal, If

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Speaker 4: you're you know, starting from scratch, would you rather him

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Speaker 3: Or is it you know, to compliment to the kid.

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Speaker 4: Is he just going to be pretty equal at either

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Speaker 4: one and you can get either side in the draft?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's looking at your most? Out of that group,

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Speaker 2: I would probably go with the I'd probably go Geiden.

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Speaker 3: He's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 2: I think if you get, you know, the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: take a solid left tackle, even if you've already got one.

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Speaker 2: The only problem is you know that you run into

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Speaker 2: you know what, I'm a left tackle and I'm going

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Speaker 1: Either trade me or let me play left tackle.

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Speaker 4: Which isn't a terrible problem to have, is having two

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Speaker 3: And I've thought about this.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's the best plan of attack,

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Speaker 2: you're moving a bunch of pieces around. But that's what

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Speaker 2: you do in the off season. Yeah, that's what the

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Speaker 4: You may have signed a center by now, or you know,

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Speaker 4: other options are gonna show up.

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Speaker 1: There'll be some guys available.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the thing I'm doing a mock right

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Speaker 4: now is none of us. You're not gonna fill every need,

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Speaker 4: you know, because free agency already happened. You don't know

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Speaker 4: who you brought back, you know, So we're just kind

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Speaker 1: You know, what's your feeling, you lean them one way

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I think I broke up there. I'm cool

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Speaker 4: with Geydon. I'd have a really hard time passing on him.

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Speaker 1: All right, So Guidan's to pick?

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Speaker 2: All right, we're back up at fifty one, and we

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Speaker 2: got some trade offers.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to reject that.

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Speaker 2: We only have one guess who is also available here?

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Speaker 2: Now your favorite set at fifty?

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Speaker 1: Where were we at? Now?

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Speaker 2: We're not at fifty, We're at fifty one. Jackson Powers

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Speaker 2: Johnson is still available, but he's not the only guy

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Speaker 2: still available. Leonard Taylor is there, Jackson Powers, Johnson, Troy Franklin,

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Speaker 2: Devandre Sweat, Jatavian Sanders, the big tight end out of Texas,

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Speaker 2: Malachai Corley, Braylan Trice, Kaylin King, Jalen Ford, Michael Hall

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Speaker 1: Is still there. This is such a deep offensive one draft.

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Speaker 4: I just noticed, how would we have taken Guiding in

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Speaker 4: round one? I mean, I'm thrilled with it, but the

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Speaker 4: fact that there's all these dudes still available is pretty often.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which kind of goes back to, you know, kind

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Speaker 2: of what I've been talking like, this is such a

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Speaker 2: deep draft with offensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: I think you could you could wait to take one

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Speaker 3: No, No, it wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: I mean if the Jeens were there or something like that,

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Speaker 4: I mean it would be There's a lot of options.

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Speaker 4: I still don't know the best plan of attack of

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Speaker 3: But I think we have to take powers Johnson.

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Speaker 2: You gotta take Powers Johnson, like you just have to

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Speaker 2: of teams. I could see the Steelers having a first

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Speaker 2: round great on him. Yeah, yeah, you know, even if

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you just at a player like that all day

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Speaker 4: long and really making a strength.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're back up here now at eighty four. The

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Speaker 2: top players available. Patrick Paul is still there, okay, Bucky Irving,

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Speaker 2: the running back out of Oregon, Jaylen McMillan, the wide

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Speaker 2: Braylan Allen, the big running back out of Wisconsin. Peyton Wilson,

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Speaker 2: measured in it just over thirty thirty inches yesterday or

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Speaker 1: That's tough. That's tough.

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Speaker 3: That's tough.

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Speaker 1: It is. James Williams is safety.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah you can hear. Roman Wilson, the wide receiver

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Speaker 3: He got like I saw to him a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Here's an interesting one for you though. Mike Sanastrill

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Speaker 4: I wish he was participating that it did. Yeahmobile boy

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Speaker 4: hit fit, tough guy, leader slot.

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Speaker 1: But a really really high level slot in the third round.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you mentioned Millan from Washington, the receiver. I thought

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Speaker 4: he was intriguing, but I think Sanders still is more

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's the pick.

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Speaker 4: live with Peterson for a year, who knows. I mean,

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Speaker 4: but yeah, Stuart Trice can do. But he would play

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now here's the interesting thing about the Steelers draft is

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Speaker 2: here at back to back picks. So you got Johnny

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Speaker 1: Ricky Piarsall, why receiver out of Florida. He's good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Emmanuel Bailey the running back at a TCU. Tanner

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Speaker 2: Border Ladie the center out of Wisconsin. I thought he

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Speaker 2: had a rough day yesterday. Jacob Cowling the wide receiver

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Speaker 4: I don't know a ton about Davis out of Clemson,

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Speaker 4: But I think he's a very raw super athlete project

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I really like Pearsaw here.

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Speaker 4: That's the name that came to I mean, we got

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Speaker 4: back to back picks. I think, Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 2: You take Pearsaw and if you want to take a

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Speaker 1: His Uh, they don't have his his.

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Speaker 2: Draft, his scouting up PERI yet, But I mean a

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Speaker 4: Hurt no, especially an upside one that maybe doesn't have

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Speaker 4: to play now, but two years from now, I might

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Speaker 4: have play a lot. You know, he's six one three eight, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I was thinking he was more of a six four

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's more of a nose type.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that's what we want.

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Speaker 2: Let me take a look here at what is available

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Speaker 2: at linebacker.

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Speaker 3: This rest of this draft, though, should probably be defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got Curtis Jacobs, Aaron Casey, Tyrese Knight, Marist,

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Speaker 2: Leah fo leeu Foto. None of these guys are really

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Speaker 2: jumping out at me here and saying screaming, let's take

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Speaker 2: a look at safety at Thomas Harper from my notre Dame,

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Speaker 2: Malik Mustafa from Wake Forest, ty Key Smith from Georgia,

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Speaker 4: I think Smith from Georgia is also a slot. But

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Speaker 4: we just drafted a slot.

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Speaker 1: I could always use a nice young safety to add

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Speaker 4: I think they'll probably sign a safety and draft on

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Speaker 2: All right, Tyke Smith, it is. And now we get

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Speaker 1: Let's see here if you're looking at quarterback Austin Reids.

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Speaker 2: There, Carter Bradley, Devin Leary from Kentucky, Brennan Armstrong, Davius,

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Speaker 4: How about Leary's speaking, I guess he had an awesome

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that it does either. Let me

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Speaker 3: That the bottom of this draft isn't great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mhmm.

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Speaker 3: I mean I consider a linebacker here.

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Speaker 5: You know, let's see, there's let's see if there's anybody

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Speaker 4: He's okay, Yeah, so that's not bad. Of the names

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Speaker 2: He's three hundred tackles the last three years for him,

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's take Omar's speeds.

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Speaker 3: That works there right in row.

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Speaker 2: And then just our last pick is at two thirty seven,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know any does How about Tory Taylor,

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Speaker 1: That would make everybody happy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was the punter at Iowa, so he's

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Speaker 2: he was very busy over his college career.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of defense, not a lot of offense.

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Speaker 2: So we came out of that draft, Matt with Tyler

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. So anyways, that.

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Speaker 2: Was a Pro Football Network's mock draft simulator. We didn't

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Speaker 2: make any trades. We had trade offers, but that we

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lalli. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: And this says to drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And man,

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Speaker 2: I'm looking here at a piece on cbssports dot Com

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Speaker 2: by Chris Treupp Trepasso NFL trends that will carry into

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four season. Motioning at the snap, yards

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Speaker 2: after catch, and staying true to your identity. It's kind

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Speaker 2: of the feeling of us, so looking here at some

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Speaker 2: of the trends that they feel are going to continue

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Speaker 2: to grow here, and the first one is motion, motion

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Speaker 2: and more motion. Okay, the forty nine Ers run motion

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Speaker 2: pre snap motion seventy point four percent of the time.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs are the fourth biggest motion team at sixty

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Speaker 2: point five percent of the time. These are two teams

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, I think the Steelers are gonna get a

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of it is quarterback dependent, and

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Speaker 4: Manning didn't like a lot of pre snap motion because

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Speaker 3: Opposed to trying to dictate what they would do.

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Speaker 4: He wanted a real static formation Marvin on the right

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Speaker 4: But nowadays you just can learn so much from any

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Speaker 4: utilize it. It's you know, it's one of the advantages

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Speaker 4: and particularly in Miami, and you know, we're seeing different

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the motions right at the snap. Yeah, there was

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Speaker 1: He was going left to right, he took off back

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Speaker 2: because because of the motion and you skinned that guy open.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I think it's very much here to say,

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Speaker 4: around for a while. But jet motion with a Tyreek

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Speaker 4: that's coming at dramatically. It scares people to death if

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Speaker 3: Was really rare.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot of jogging behind the line

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Speaker 4: to catch up with him. Now that's tough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's a trickle down from the college

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Speaker 3: Leagues, DFL way of doing things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean the NFL coaches do learn from

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Speaker 2: here is long live yards after the catch. Okay, Number

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Speaker 2: one and two teams in the Act this year the

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Speaker 4: In the Chiefs Wow by design, by design, and the

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Speaker 4: Steelers couldn't have been far behind that. No, they did

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Speaker 4: I don't know the numbers on it, but certainly in Tennessee,

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Speaker 4: the catch, usually off play action freeze. Those linebackers crossing

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Speaker 3: The Niners are always number one.

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Speaker 4: And that's by design, and they do so such a

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Speaker 2: And Kelsey really isn't what he used to be in

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Speaker 2: That really didn't happen quite as much this year. Yeah, So,

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Speaker 2: the great teams can can and typically adapt to their

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Speaker 2: philosophies absolutely matters. Teams that can only win one way

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Speaker 1: Saved the Steelers season a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure did last year. I mean post by in

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Speaker 3: I think this is kind of like plague the Bills

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Speaker 4: You know, the Bills are starting to realize we need

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Speaker 4: a weird situation this year. But I think sometimes you

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Speaker 4: then you're not staying true to your identity. You're reacting

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Speaker 2: Oh you know, yeah, not the best way to do it,

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Speaker 2: I think, and again, you don't even know that you're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: You know, so I think you do what your roots are,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that's those are his three trends.

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Speaker 2: We're also seeing have teams really backed out of that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think that's it's working. It is working.

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Speaker 4: It is working. Just from a person to heal perspective,

441
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 4: I think we're really kind of a crossroads at the

442
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 4: linebacker position because you draft these guys high and it

443
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 4: takes them too long to get good. And but boy,

444
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,239
Speaker 4: having Rokwan or Warner or one of those dudes is

445
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 4: such an advantage. Is it worth painting them more on

446
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 4: the open market than they've been getting if they're true

447
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 4: every down linebackers? Or do you take the Eagles approach

448
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 4: and just kind of be crappy there and suffer You

449
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 4: know that Shoul didn't treat them well this year, but.

450
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Speaker 1: It did not work this year.

451
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say that that is as

452
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 2: much as it worked for them last year or two

453
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 2: years ago.

454
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Speaker 1: This past season, you might see them.

455
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: Kind of say, you know what, that's not the way

456
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 2: we want to do it, and to reevaluate yeah, yeah,

457
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 2: and reevaluate that we can't just we can't just have

458
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: just bodies back in our back seven.

459
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they've always stressed corn nerves.

460
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 4: But outside guys, I don't think you can be bad

461
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 4: at safety and linebacker intentionally. I mean talk about after

462
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 4: the catch, Well, who do you think you're attacking after

463
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 4: the catch those guys right.

464
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: And that's a big, you know, a big trend right now,

465
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 2: getting the middle of the.

466
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, the good.

467
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: Offenses are going to exploit that, and you just can't

468
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: do it. You can't be bad there.

469
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 4: Like I can see Kyle Hamilton not being the fifteenth

470
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 4: pick but being the sixth pick, you know, going forward

471
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 4: or just middle of the field, big guys that are versatile.

472
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree.

473
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Speaker 2: So that's an interesting article there. I do think that,

474
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 2: you know, those trends, we're going to see more of it.

475
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: Could we see because of this draft?

476
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: We mentioned that we haven't really talked all that much

477
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 2: about the cornerbacks. With the cornerbacks in this draft this year,

478
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,959
Speaker 2: a lot of big, physical.

479
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: Corners.

480
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 2: Again, Yeah, could we see the league start to trend

481
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 2: ten more to its Hey, let's get back to playing

482
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: more heah, you can still play cover two, but cover

483
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 2: two man and let's get up and press these guys.

484
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 4: I think deep down that's what defenses want to do,

485
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 4: but they just kind of fear that they're overmatched. That's

486
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 4: a great question. I mean, the league plays less man

487
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 4: than people realize. And I don't always trust the percentages

488
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 4: because I think it's hard to tell sometimes, right, but

489
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 4: more than you think. It's not fifty to fifty. It's

490
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 4: lower than you think.

491
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, the heavy the heavy man teams in the NFL

492
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 2: are still only playing man fifty percent of the time

493
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 2: at most.

494
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Speaker 4: I know, And I think if you asked a lot

495
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 4: of defensive coaches, they would love to get to the

496
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 4: point where they can play two out of three snaps

497
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 4: in man, you know, and just beat up guys at

498
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage. But I think that's if the

499
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,120
Speaker 4: quarterback played across the league isn't great, which it is,

500
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 4: and especially once injuries hit, you can live in zone

501
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 4: and make the quarterback complete pass after pass. You know,

502
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 4: they usually inevitably screw it up or a holding call

503
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 4: or whatever. It's not as fun a way to play defense,

504
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 4: but it is pretty stable.

505
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just know, you know, watching the Ravens on

506
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 2: Sunday against Patrick Mahomes in.

507
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: That first half, they tried to play a lot of.

508
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: Zone against him, Yeah, and he was just like, Okay,

509
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 2: you want to do that. I'm just going to keep

510
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: throwing these eight yard completions and we're just going to

511
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: move the ball down the field. And then the second

512
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: half they switched it up and played more Man and

513
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 2: Mahomes had trouble.

514
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they don't. I think they've scored three

515
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 3: points or zero or.

516
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: Whatever and say they scored it all in the second

517
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 2: half or yeah.

518
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 3: Now, I think you'd love to play more Man.

519
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: Now.

520
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 4: I always talk about the D line advantage over the

521
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 4: O line. I do think the receivers in the league

522
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 4: are clearly better than the corners in the league as well.

523
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 4: The discrepancy is not as bad. But if you had two,

524
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 4: I mean you have Sauce Gardner and another guy, you know,

525
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 4: if you had two like the you know the Dolphins

526
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 4: wanted to do that. They had Howard and Jyleen Ramsey.

527
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Speaker 4: You know, like you could be so much different than

528
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 4: your opponents if you were the man heaviest team in

529
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 4: the league with two outside corners and you know, sitting

530
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 4: here thinking somebody opposite Porter that can come down and

531
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Speaker 4: mess you up with you at the lion of scrimmage.

532
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's let's talk a little bit about more

533
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Speaker 2: of a little bit more. In the final segment, he

534
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Speaker 2: is Matt Williamson, I am Dale Lelly. You're listening to

535
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Speaker 2: the driver on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back to

536
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Speaker 2: finish up the show right after this Welcome back. I'm

537
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: Dale Lelly. He is the Matt Williamson and Matt I

538
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Speaker 2: think one of the uh you're just talking about the cornerbacks.

539
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Speaker 2: And I was looking up some stats from last year's

540
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Speaker 2: Senior Bowl. You know, they have the Zebra technologies comes

541
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: in and they do the speed you know, measure the

542
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: speeds on the field and all that stuff. The fastest

543
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: player here at the Senior Bowl last year, one of

544
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: the fastest players was Darius Rush.

545
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Speaker 4: Really yeah, he realized that.

546
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Speaker 3: Wow.

547
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Speaker 2: And I'm just looking here at his combine results from

548
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: last year. He ran a four to three six at

549
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: the combine. Yeah, with good size and length and with

550
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: a one point five split, one point five to one,

551
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: a thirty five inch vertical ten and ten and the

552
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Speaker 2: uh ten to one broad jump. He's six too, He's

553
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Speaker 2: one ninety eight. I know everybody in Pittsburgh was excited

554
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: about Corey Trice sure.

555
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Speaker 1: Last last summer.

556
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Speaker 2: To me and I'm looking you know, Lancier Line gave

557
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: him a six point one two grade with his which

558
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Speaker 2: which means he has you know, good backup with the

559
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: potential to develop.

560
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Speaker 1: Into a starter.

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Speaker 2: I think the Steelers getting Darius Rush, who was a

562
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Speaker 2: fifth round pick by the Colts last year, was a

563
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: complete Nutter gift.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 4: Agree Like Frankly, I look at it like if either

566
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Speaker 4: one of those two, Trice or Rush hits, they could

567
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 4: hit big, and they're both gifts, you know, like they're

568
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 4: both way more talented than what you paid for him,

569
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Speaker 4: which was basically nothing. I mean, he basically paid nothing

570
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Speaker 4: a seven round pick for the.

571
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Speaker 3: Two of them.

572
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Speaker 4: But Rush, I mean when we would do mock drafts

573
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Speaker 4: last year or getting to know him around Senior Bowl time,

574
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Speaker 4: I thought for sure he was gonna be a Day

575
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Speaker 4: two guy, you know. And the measurables are he's been

576
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 4: in the system now for the Steelers for quite some time.

577
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Speaker 4: He's kind of been I don't want to say he's

578
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 4: been forgotten, but that could pay off huge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I know there were a lot of questions

580
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Speaker 2: about why he wasn't active more last year for the Steelers.

581
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Speaker 1: It came down the special.

582
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 3: Teams, special team.

583
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: He joined his team at mid season.

584
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: They didn't get a chance to work with him at

585
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: all throughout training camp on the special team stuff.

586
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Speaker 1: He was on his third team.

587
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 2: You know, they signed him off of Kansas City's practice squad.

588
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: You know, you're lucky that he was able to, you know,

589
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: jump on a moving train, and they that was a

590
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: complete let's just pick this kid up and stash him

591
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Speaker 2: for twenty twenty four.

592
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think people don't quite understand his timeline in

593
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 4: that the Colts took Brents in the second round and

594
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 4: they were looking for a lot of big corners, and

595
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Speaker 4: they drafted three corners in general. Overall, they had a

596
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 4: bunch of picks and they're the most cover three ish

597
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 4: team in the league. And I think Rush is more

598
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 4: of a press ban guy than an off cover three

599
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 4: corner his size.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they took him.

601
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Speaker 2: They took him with the third pick in the fifth

602
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: round because they couldn't believe he was still available.

603
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: Yes, in the fifth round.

604
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 4: But the room got too crowded they had to pick

605
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 4: between him, so he got the short end of the stick.

606
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 4: And then I think Kansas City was sort of in

607
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 4: a Steeler vein, Wow, we really liked this kid coming

608
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 4: out of college. Let's just grab him, throw him on

609
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 4: the practice squad. And then the Steelers trumped him and said, well,

610
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 4: we like him even more. We're willing to have him

611
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 4: eat a roster squad all year. We like him so much,

612
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 4: even though we're not going to count on him for

613
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Speaker 4: anything this year, you know, So it's all about a

614
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 4: move for twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just think I think that's a

616
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: that's like getting an extra Again. You look at Lance's

617
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: grade here on him. He's thought he would go in

618
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: around three or four. Yeah, And when we were doing

619
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Speaker 2: our mock drafts last year, that's we were taking him

620
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Speaker 2: in round three.

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Speaker 1: You know. If we took him, it was in round three.

622
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Speaker 3: And as you were, it was a really deep corner draft.

623
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Speaker 3: You know, like Quorter at thirty two. Most years he

624
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 3: goes higher than that.

625
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: You're telling a guy that's sixty six to two one

626
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety eight pounds thirty three and three eighth

627
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: inch arms, and he ran a four to three six forty.

628
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: Most years he goes into second round at worst.

629
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Speaker 3: His tape was good.

630
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Speaker 4: No, I thought that was one of the best under

631
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 4: the radar moves they made all year for the future,

632
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, I don't hold it against him

633
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 4: at all that he wasn't.

634
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Speaker 3: Much of a contributor this season. I don't think that's

635
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: why he was picked up.

636
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: No, I don't.

637
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: I don't believe so either, And so, you know, I

638
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: feel like he's he's an extra draft pick this year.

639
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: And I think when we're talking about the twenty twenty

640
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: three rookie class for the Steelers, he's he's not going

641
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 2: to be a part of that because they didn't draft him.

642
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: But in reality, he should be considered in that. And

643
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Speaker 2: I think, you know, a year from now, two years

644
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 2: from now, we're gonna look at that and wild they

645
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: got to steal. Yeah, yeah, they got a piece for free.

646
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: You know, they got a free for free. I assume

647
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: he'll get better on special teams. Maybe that's never his

648
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: forte or maybe he just he's he breaks into the

649
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: starting lineup next year and he's doesn't play any special teams.

650
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Speaker 4: That's gonna say. He might have to get to the

651
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 4: point where he's in the top three mix if he's

652
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 4: if special teams aren't his bag, and that's easier said

653
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 4: than done, but I don't think it's impossible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just a different body type to me than Trice.

655
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: Trice is Trice is real thin below the waist. Yeah, yeah,

656
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: he's got you know, skinny legs, and he's he's you know, he's.

657
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: Tall and lanky.

658
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, try Rush has some of that, as does Porter,

659
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: But I mean these guys look like freaks.

660
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: They do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the three of them, especially Trice and

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Speaker 4: Porter have real freakish length and pretty shoulders and narrow

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Speaker 4: wastes and long limbs, and Porters used his extremely well.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just harder to complete a pass around

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Speaker 4: all that limbs and length. And if the other two

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Speaker 4: are in that neighborhood in terms of using their length,

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Speaker 4: it could be in a really good shade.

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Speaker 3: But it's hard to count on them.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like, in terms of team building, I don't

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Speaker 4: think you can go into the season and just assume

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Speaker 4: Rush or Trice is going to be starting.

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Speaker 2: I think they'll have a better idea about Rush then

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Speaker 2: they will Trice. Like, they only got to see Trice

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Speaker 2: last year in OTAs and training camp, whereas Rush, they

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Speaker 2: at least got to see him go out and do

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Speaker 2: stuff and practice all season long.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how well is he learning? Does he take it

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Speaker 3: to the field.

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Speaker 4: Maybe we're not willing to throw him out there against

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Speaker 4: Steve Higgins and the Bengals, but he's getting it.

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Speaker 3: And next year might be his time to really shine.

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Speaker 2: In a sentence, and I will say this that the

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Speaker 2: Trice was around all year long this year, Like he

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Speaker 2: wasn't one of these guys that got hurt and then

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Speaker 2: they just said, oh, you just stay away.

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Speaker 1: He was in the facility every day.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So he was going to the he was going

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Speaker 2: to the classroom, and he was learning and doing those things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it'll be the same next year.

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Speaker 4: So no, if either one of them hit is a

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Speaker 4: home run, they both hit, wow, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 4: and I'm not saying they have to be d on,

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Speaker 4: but if they both could be competent starters, or either

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Speaker 4: one of them could be a competent starter at that

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Speaker 4: age that have no cap it whatsoever, hardly any investment

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Speaker 4: at all in either one of them at that position,

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Speaker 4: it's hard to find, especially with their traits, you know,

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Speaker 4: their size and speeds.

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Speaker 3: I mean, those are the kind of risks that are

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Speaker 3: worth taking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you look, you caution nothing to go get that

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Speaker 2: guy and why not put him on the roster and

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Speaker 2: see what you got.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when we did, you know, we were talking about

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Speaker 4: you know, the Steelers grabbing the Florida state quarterback that's

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Speaker 4: banged up, you know, like you use the late round

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Speaker 4: pick on a highly talented guy that has a warked

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Speaker 4: or two because of injuries or isn't going to help

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Speaker 4: you right now in a position that's hard to find.

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Speaker 3: I'm always in favor of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no problem with that.

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Speaker 2: There have been some some other years where I thought,

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Speaker 2: you know, they should they should do that, and they haven't.

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Speaker 2: Just take a flyer on a guy's Yeah, if you

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Speaker 2: think he's sounding like the offensive lineman out of Michigan

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Speaker 2: this year, yeah, zin Ziner, Like if he's there in

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Speaker 2: the you know with that second pick in the fourth

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Speaker 2: round that you know one.

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Speaker 1: Twenty, why is not?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I was, you know, a potential first

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Speaker 2: round draft pick until you know hurt his you know,

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Speaker 2: got hurt this year. If you can get that guy

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Speaker 2: in the fourth round, then and even if he doesn't

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Speaker 2: play this year, so what you say you get three

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Speaker 2: more years after that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, then if you can hit on a guy like

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Speaker 4: that that you pay fifty cents on the dollar or

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Speaker 4: once out every two years, once out every three drafts,

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Speaker 4: it's like an extra second round pick.

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Speaker 2: That It's one thing that the Ravens have done consistently

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Speaker 2: over the years. Is sometimes they hit and sometimes they don't.

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Speaker 2: But blue when they hit you, I mean it's it's

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Speaker 2: it's free money.

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Speaker 4: It's a bonus prize, right, Yeah, porter end up being

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Speaker 4: a bone in free money. But like it's like something

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Speaker 4: falling out of the sky a year later that you

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Speaker 4: just waited on and you forgot and meanwhile your doctors

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Speaker 4: and coaches have been working with them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: shop dot Steelers dot com. That's going to do it

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Speaker 2: for our show today. Matt and I will be back

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Speaker 2: again tomorrow. We'll have some more senior bull stuff to

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Speaker 2: talk about. I'm going to head over to practice here

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Speaker 2: now and check that out, and of course Matt will

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Speaker 2: be watching those on TV and gleaning what he can

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Speaker 2: from those practices. The early morning session going on Now,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get pay a little bit more attention to

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Speaker 2: the afternoon session than I was able to yesterday. I

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Speaker 2: had a lot of stuff going on, but that's going

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Speaker 2: to do it for their show today. So for my

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Speaker 2: partner Matt Williamson, I'm Dale Lollie. We thank you for

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Speaker 2: listening to this edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation

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