WEBVTT - Spring Cleaning Your Life #011 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:03.079 Welcome to How to Money. I'm Joel and I'm Matt 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:18.560 and today we're talking about spring cleaning your life. Joel. 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:23.200 So what's up, man? So before before we get started 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:25.120 on our topic today, I want to tell you I'm 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:27.360 keeping it a secret because I wanted to tell you 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:29.400 once we hit record. Here you're bursting at the scenes 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:33.000 about I want to know, all right, So listen. Last night, 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:36.160 I'm sitting there on Facebook kind of catching up, seeing 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:38.479 what's going on out there in the world, and I 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:42.080 see a buddy of mine. He's a photographer friend who 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:46.040 also likes scotch, which is nice and uh, because we're 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:48.199 not only beer drinkers, we like some scotch on occasion. 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:52.000 You in particular, man, Yeah, I enjoy in particularly a 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:56.240 nice smoky Pete scotch. Anyway, his wife posted a picture 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:02.600 of him with a case of one of my favorite scotches, Talisker. 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:05.280 Oh yeah, you love that one. Not only Talisker, but 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.280 it's a special version of it. I guess it's called 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:11.679 Talisker Storm. And this is one that I've had before 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.000 and it's really good. So I was like, you gotta 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:15.959 be kidding me. Why are they picking up a case 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.200 of this stuff. Uh. They picked it up at the 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.400 liquor store right up the street from us, the corner there. 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.600 That's under thirty dollars a bottle. Do you had to 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:26.319 buy a case or do they decide it's under thirty 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:28.640 bucks a bottle? I'm Kate. Yeah, Basically it's like, this 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:31.200 is such a good deal that you need to get 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:33.200 that much. I'm loading up to get enough Talisker that 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:35.679 will last me like the next twelve years or you know, 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:39.240 next six. But this, I mean, this is a dude, 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.160 This is a Scotch that goes anywhere between like sixty 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:44.480 and fifty I don't know about six, like fifty to 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:46.920 seventy bucks maybe though. And I was, I mean I 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.200 was sitting there, look you know per bottle. Uh listen 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:53.960 that twenty something nine or whatever. And so it was 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:58.200 like ten almost ten thirty at night. Kate was out. 0:01:58.240 --> 0:01:59.400 But as soon as she got home, I was like, oh, 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.320 by the way, I got ago, you put your pants on? Yeah, 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:04.880 my pants are still on. I went ready forbid yet, 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:08.040 hopped in the car and drove up there and bought 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.000 me a case. Man. Yeah, when you see a deal, 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:12.920 you pounce. It's true. And that's a great thing. Like 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:14.720 you know when you saved money and the deal comes 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:16.960 along and you're like, this is my jam, that's when 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.799 you make the move. Yeah, it was such a good deal. 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:22.520 So now basically you need me to come over a 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:24.480 lot more and help you drink the scotch. And do 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:26.720 we actually need to change this podcasting to be in 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.040 a scotch drinking podcast or I don't know, we could 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:31.320 do a maybe like one week we might do a 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:33.240 little scotch poor instead of beer, all right, or do 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:35.000 a little nightcap at the end. You know what, we 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:36.919 are poor, not poor. It doesn't say that we're poring 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:40.040 a beer exactly. Man, we left the doors open. Those 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:43.760 people don't remember be the wiser. Oh man. You know 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:45.400 something else. I think I was influenced to you by 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:47.959 my buddy. He he just sent me a picture of 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:50.960 his beer seller and he had just like bottles and 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:52.720 bottles of stuff too, And I think that was sort 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:54.239 of on my mind, and I thought, you know what, 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:57.800 Scotch is definitely something that never goes bad. And I 0:02:57.840 --> 0:02:59.600 was like, if Tyler's got a shelf full of a 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:03.400 bunch of a dog fish head worldwide stouts, maybe I 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:06.200 can have some scotch. And how did your wife feel 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:09.520 about you purchasing a case of scotch? She supportive or 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.040 now she was supportive, Okay, Yeah, she wasn't sure how 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:13.839 much I should get because she was like, well, that's 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:15.960 just a you know, that's up to you to decide. 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:18.720 But given the budget, that's your money. So it's exactly well, 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:20.080 so in the end she was just like, you know, 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.119 it's up to you. And the way I was thinking 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:24.639 about it though, is that I might give one of 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.480 those bottles away as like a gift. You know. Yeah, 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:29.080 my brother in law's got a birthday coming up, and 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:30.280 so we were kind of thinking. I was like, you 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:31.639 know what, I think he might like to have a 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.520 bottle of this, and and he's gonna be like, Matt's 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.680 a big spending exactly basically, look good, he's got it, 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.880 got himself an awesome scotch sitting there. And so once 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:42.680 we do that, I get to just transfer it from 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:46.640 our giving category back over to credit my account. Nice 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.640 like it super nerdy. Well, dude, I'm all about scoring 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.440 a deal, and a deal on Booze is even better. 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.000 It's the best kind of deal you can come, all right, 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:56.440 I wanted to tell you real quick. I read this 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:58.480 article today and I thought it was fascinating because I've 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:00.960 never thought about this before. You and I were both 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:03.880 into real estate. You can hear about that listeners. You 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:05.680 can go back a few episodes and listen to our 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.320 Rental Property Basics show where um, Matt and I are 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.400 kind of amateur landlords and super into it. But I've 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:16.320 never thought about this apparently, So apparently people that are 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:21.039 selling their homes are using their smart cameras and their 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:24.680 Nest thermostats and they're listening devices in order to kind 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:27.040 of get some inside information. They're kind of spying on 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:30.120 potential homebuyers and their agents to kind of figure out 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.839 what people are saying about the home. Isn't that amazing? 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:35.960 Like are they listening to them? Say? So? Let me 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:37.920 read this this This couple lines from the article tis. 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.920 As homes become smarter, real estate agents and homebuyers are 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:43.800 increasingly finding there's an extra set of eyes and ears 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:46.440 on them as the tour properties for sale. Real Estors 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:50.680 describe everything from old fashioned security cameras to newer contraptions 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:55.520 like Nest thermostats tracking their conversations and actions. Fascinating, right. 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.520 There's all sorts of ways. Like let's say you're walking 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:59.120 through a house. You're talking to your agent and you're like, 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.400 I'm in love. This is the greatest house I've ever 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:03.600 seen in my life, and we will demand this much 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.360 even though it's listened to this much, and the sellers 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:10.360 like awesome. That's an upper hand in the negotiations. They 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.400 put in a low ball offer and I just say, no, 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:14.480 I'm sticking to my price because I know how much 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:18.159 they like it. Um. And that's so as the potential seller, 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.520 I'm like totally on board with that because I'm kind 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:24.960 of sneaky. Yeah you are, but it's a but if 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.080 I put myself in the buyer's shoes, it's tough. What 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:29.120 do you think? I don't think it's cool. And I 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.680 think if I were a buyer and I found out 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:36.080 that that happened, I would certainly feel like I was tricked, um, 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.160 And I wouldn't want to do that to somebody. I mean, 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.040 I understand the desire for that, but it seems unfair 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:44.679 and so I think that should probably be off the table. 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:49.719 Using nestcams and whatever, like all these different nanny cams, 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:51.919 all these other things in order to spy on people 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.720 essentially walking through your house. Well, it's not Yeah, it's 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.520 less spying. I don't know, maybe it's spying. Definitely keeps 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.920 dropping at the at minimum. But I feel like these 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.719 these technologies are so ubiquitous now that you kind of 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.560 have to assume that, right sure, especially, I mean you 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:07.720 come into a house and they've got the smart doorbell, 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:11.080 and you you see other sort of smart home appliances, 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.360 and you gotta think, all right, you know there might 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.560 be some of that going on here. Yeah. Um. I 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.359 think the biggest takeaway is for anybody who's potentially buying 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.680 a house and walking through with her agent or a 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:23.719 friend or something, that could be really careful what you're saying, 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:26.000 because there's a chance that you know that they might 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:27.640 not even be doing it on purpose, but they might. 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:29.159 You know, they might be in the next room and 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.159 hear you. So just be careful about what you're saying. 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.080 Wait till you're talking price and how much you actually 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.000 love the property until you're off the premises, yeah, or 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:39.480 wait till you get in your car. Don't even wait 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:41.440 on the like the front step or anything like that. 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.280 I mean, that's how we were anytime, Like when we 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:45.840 first bought our house, Kate and I feel like we 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:49.159 were always super tight lips, you know, like zip zip it. 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.159 You feel free to point out the minor flaws in 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:52.560 a place or something like that, but like, you know, 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:54.800 don't don't talk about how it's perfect for you and 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:58.320 your family until you're out the door with your agent 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.760 on a on you know, somewhere else to talk about, 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.360 you know, that potential. I'm so torn though, because one 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:06.360 one part of me wants to think, oh no, that's 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.039 that's just part of the game now, it's just part 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:09.960 of listening at home, and but the other part of 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.800 me thinks that is pretty messed up. You know, I 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:15.000 think I'm just fascinated that's the thing. It's like, oh, well, 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:16.560 I guess that makes a complete sense of that's a 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:18.760 thing now. But along for the days when you had to, 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.680 like he's dropping person, Joel, if you wanted to to 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:25.480 listen what your potential buying buyers were saying about your house. Actually, 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.840 so that told reminds me of a story some friends 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.800 of ours. They went across to their neighbor's house, like 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:34.400 across the street or maybe like Caddy Corner while an 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.040 agent was showing their house, so you know, they had 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:37.560 to get out of there while while the agent was 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:39.440 showing their house. And so they're sitting there on the 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.400 front porch though, like trying to play it super cool, 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.160 and they noticed that they can't get get into the 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:47.840 house like they could the realtor couldn't get the key 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.480 thing to work, and and he was like, should we 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:52.760 should we like text him or like columns so they 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:54.840 can get inside of the house. And she's like, no, 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:56.960 like they're gonna know that we can see them if 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:59.000 you like say something about not you know, getting the house. 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:03.960 It's like old school leaves dropping. Yeah, gona those days. Yeah, Yeah, 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:06.120 Now it's newfangled and there's all sorts of ways that 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:09.000 you can can spy on people. So don't start lauding 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.920 the house, you know, and singing its praises while you're 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.160 walking around inside of it, because you know, the homeowner 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:16.520 could just old school hear you or be recording you 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.280 on one of their cameras. So yeah, beware. So our 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:23.360 topic today is going to be spring cleaning your life, 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:27.200 and specifically, we're not talking about cleaning your house of dirt. 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:30.520 We're gonna be talking about getting rid of junk, decluttering 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:33.160 your house, and kind of making a buck, Yeah, making 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:34.800 a buck on the side while you're doing it, because 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:38.320 this is the time of year that people are tossing things, 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.439 wanting to clear up the clutter, wanting their house to 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:44.800 be fresh, and hopefully this episode will help you kind 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.000 of figure some of those things out and make the 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:49.880 most for some of your possessions that you're not just 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.559 just tossing them away, um, throwing them in a landfill, 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:54.840 but that you're actually able to make a little bit 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.280 of money and bring some sanity back in your life 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.600 by clearing things out. But first, real quick, onto the 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:03.360 beer matt today. You pick this one up, Cascade Brewing 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:06.400 Blueberry Ale. Tell me about it, Yeah, Joel. This is 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:10.760 a two thousand fifteen Cascade blueberry Ale. These guys are 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.480 out of Portland, Oregon, and right here on the bottle 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.880 it says this Northwest style sour ale. It's a blend 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:20.920 of wheat and blonde ales aged in oak barrels for 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:24.200 up to twelve months with fresh blueberries. Yeah, Joel. So, 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:26.439 one of the reasons I think I love these these 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.480 guys specifically is that they're making at least Traditionally, they've 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:32.560 made their their sours from wheat and blonde Ale's and 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.600 that is one of the things I love about sours 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:38.559 is uh are the brighter ones. It's corking caged, which 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:41.480 means there's a fancy cork inside that we gotta pop. 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:47.920 So so Joel's pourning that right now. It's pouring a 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:53.480 like a reddish purple. So it's obviously got the color 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:57.040 from the blueberries. I can smell that sour, man, and 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:01.080 I can smell what the rock is cooking, you, GIBROTI 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:04.800 so this smells exactly the way I remember. I haven't 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.600 I haven't sipped it yet, but I can smell that oak. 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:13.400 It smells right, dude. It hits you like right on 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:17.520 the side of your cheeks and just you start salivating instantly. 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:22.920 It's like a like a blueberry sweetheart almost. It's really 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.760 really good. This is still one of my favorites, and 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:30.200 I completely agree with you. I would recommend Cascade to anybody, 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:32.720 and specifically if you're looking at sours. Yeah, I would 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:36.920 recommend Cascade to anybody who likes sours. We've had over 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:38.760 the years, Matt, you and I have shared some really 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.680 good ones from them. And I do say shared because 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:45.400 this is in a seven and fifty milliliter bottle, So 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.959 you're really talking about a great bottle to share with somebody. 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.960 Drink that on your own at your own peril. So 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:54.600 if you happen to be able to get your hands 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.800 on one of those, snatch it up with something like this, 0:10:58.080 --> 0:10:59.520 you can drink it three years from now. You can 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:01.320 just have it on your shelf, look at it and 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.079 smile every time you see it, and then decide randomly 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:06.240 one day to start sticking in the fridge so you 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.439 can crack it open. You know that the following night, 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:10.880 if only I can see you, you know, look at 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:14.400 your beers and smile. I think my wife gets jealous. 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.640 I was gonna say, she's like, yeah, what are you 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:20.560 what are you doing just smiling at my beer, saying 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.280 they're looking at your beers, smiling, just looking at my 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:27.440 my malt hop Barley children. All right, onto the topic 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:30.080 at hand, Matt. We're talking about spring cleaning your life. 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.040 How to get rid of some of the stuff that 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.400 you have in your house that you don't need, and 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.440 how to make a quick buck from it while at 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:40.559 the same time decluttering and actually improving your life. And 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:42.480 the first thing that we need to note, almost all 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.400 of us we have too much stuff in our homes 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:48.760 and it begins to take up space, not only physically 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:52.480 but in our minds. And so I know every time 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:55.680 that I go through a period of decluttering, a time 0:11:55.679 --> 0:12:00.920 of decluttering, it is like therapeutic for not only my 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:04.880 pocketbook and my house in the space space there, but 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.600 for my mind as well. Yeah, it doesn't. It just 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:09.640 feel good when, like you know that there's something that's 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.280 kind of been sitting there piled up like with a 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:13.560 bunch of other junk, and you can finally clear it out. 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:15.440 Like you said, I feel like that sort of mental 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.319 or emotional part of it is almost even better than 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:19.920 just clearing out the space in your house, because you 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:21.880 can it's easy to throw stuff in the attic or 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:23.440 kind of tossed it down on the cross base, you know, 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:25.480 with the basement and just kind of never see it again, 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:27.880 or or pull one of those like you know what 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:29.360 what like a kid. I don't know, I'm thinking like 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.320 Bart Simpson probably, you know, stuffing everything in the closet 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:34.880 and then you like literally shut the closet door so 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:36.760 that like things don't like fall out on you you 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:38.960 have like a closet like that, a closet that things 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.520 just go to disappear basically not anymore. But you know, 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:43.640 I think we we do. We have had that at times. 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.760 And so every time you you do this too, or 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:48.640 you clear out one room or you clear out you know, 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.480 let's s your wardrobe or something like that, man, you 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:53.199 kind of get jones and move onto the next thing. 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:55.960 And so recently Emily and I did kind of have 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.080 like a mini purging and we get rid of just 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:00.439 kind of a few things, and we're kind using the 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.200 local Facebook yard sales site to get rid of some stuff. 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:06.360 It was really nice, man Like, it just felt like 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.800 we could walk around our own room a little bit 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:13.280 better and the house in general. And uh it just man, 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.360 it feels good to you know, make a couple of 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:18.360 hundred bucks hand get rid of stuffs at the same 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.920 time that you will never miss you not to mention, 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.000 it's just less stuff to clean, right, more stuff you 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:24.400 kind of have out that you have to like dust. 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.920 I mean, let's lose all that. I guess the question 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.280 that we have to probably answer that the people are 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.120 wondering right off the bat, is are we minimalists, because 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:37.720 that's kind of been a trend that's that we've seen, 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:39.840 you know, across the internet, like people like to claim 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.640 that they're minimalists and like to try to inspire other 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.880 people to live in that way. Uh, And we are 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:49.640 not minimalists. And I don't necessarily think I don't think 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:51.800 it's a bad thing to try to to try to 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:53.200 strive for that if you feel like that's best for 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:56.520 your life. But it's also especially with kids and stuff 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:58.719 like that. Oh yeah, it's it's it's something that we're 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:00.960 not going to strive for at this one in time. Yeah, 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.920 with kids, it's it's especially hard having kids at different 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:06.520 ages because there's stuff you want to keep that you're 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:08.160 gonna you know, you're gonna use for say, you know, 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.600 the younger kid, and you're just basically waiting for them 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:12.920 to age up. And you don't want to toss something 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.240 just because you know your older child has grown out 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.320 of it and you've got a cup more in my case, 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.640 two more children below that are also going to use 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:22.480 that thing. So it makes a ton of sense to 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:26.240 hang onto things. Uh So, yeah, getting rid of everything 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.280 as soon as you're done using it isn't something that 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.120 is financially smart for us, and it's just nice to 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.560 have it kind of on hand just in case you 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.560 do need it. That being said, I feel like you 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:38.560 can fall on a spectrum when it comes to being 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:42.480 a minimalist. I do think that we are slightly more 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:46.480 minimalists than you and Emily, I would definitely agree with 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.560 that you have. I try to live a more spartan existence, 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:54.160 try to not allow myself to have the nice things. Uh, 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.120 but we do the luxuries I do like, and I've 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.840 I've grown to to stop shopping for these things. By 0:14:59.880 --> 0:15:02.800 do kind of like quirky knickknacks and so you know, 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:04.960 a little decorative thing here there that kind of adds 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:08.000 to the spice of the room. And your house is 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.520 like white and black and gray essentially. Gear stuff is 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:14.560 are like stark, very clean, and we like pops of 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.640 color and bright stuff and crazy stuff and so our 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.440 houses paintings and all over the place fake animal heads. 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:22.800 We have very different tastes. But also on the other hand, 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:26.360 we live in square feet with with one bathroom with 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.720 the four of us, and so we do try to 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:32.800 on purpose aim to live in a smaller space. Um 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:34.760 we think it's good for us as a family, for 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:36.800 our girls to share a room, for us to have 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.880 a smaller space. There's less to clean, there's less to decorate, 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:43.440 there's less to keep up with, and ultimately we interact more. 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.640 When when you have a giant house, someone's in one 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:48.440 wing of the house and you know other persons in 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:50.760 the other and you probably don't see each other nearly 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.120 as much, and kids can lock themselves away in their rooms, 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:55.360 but if they're kind of forced to interact with the 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.160 family in this way, we just thought that was important. 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.600 And that's an intentional choice on our part to live 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:05.200 in square feet and to share this space together. That's 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:08.160 that's just something we feel is important for our family. Cool. 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.040 I didn't realize you guys were only living in square feet, 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:12.800 so Joel and we've we've talked about this on a 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.080 previous episode two. But the back part of your house 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.960 you have set up as a as a rental, You've 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.920 got at least out uh when year or you know, year, 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.960 long long term rental, I should say least um. But yeah, 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:26.880 that's pretty awesome, man, I didn't realize you guys were 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:31.000 rocking up front. Yeah, so the house overalls about two 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.800 thousand square feet. We ran out roughly this the back 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:37.400 seven d square feet to a friend. She's awesome. In 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:39.240 my family, we live in the front half of the house, 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:42.600 and so yeah, it works out perfectly for a lot 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.800 of reasons. I mentioned that in the Rental Property podcast. 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.520 But to truly to on purpose to try to live 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:50.880 in a smaller space, there's like so many benefits that 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:54.040 come from it. There's less furniture to buy, and I 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.520 think to like that's part of the American dream that 0:16:56.520 --> 0:17:00.400 people bought into. It's like and there's people don't think 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:02.920 about all the costs associated with a bigger house. Not 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.280 only is there a bigger mortgage payment, not only do 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:09.040 you have higher utility bills, but you also have more 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.159 furniture that you need to buy for the space. And 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:15.719 so just all these things start creeping up. And I 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:17.760 think one of the best things that you can do 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.760 from the get go spring cleaning your life live in 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:23.560 a smaller space. Living in that smaller space is going 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:26.960 to ultimately make it a lot easier for you to 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:29.359 take some of these steps that we're going to recommend 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.240 here to you in this in this show. Uh, so 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:35.240 that you can sprinklean your life, do the big thing. 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:38.120 The big thing is to live in a smaller space. Yeah, 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:41.640 and having less possessions is one part of like minimalism 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.960 that I kind of aspire towards. And hopefully by the 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:48.000 end of this episode, you guys will have some some tips, 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.359 some pointers, uh, and some sort of guidelines that you 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.520 maybe you can follow that will help you and ultimately 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.439 encourage you guys to to downsize, to get rid of 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.280 some stuff. And honestly, dude, I think this is gonna 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:02.120 encourage me to get up in the attic and pull 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.320 some stuff down. I think my favorite feeling in doing 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:08.400 this is getting rid of things that I use kind 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:11.600 of sparingly or almost never, that really don't add much 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:15.719 value to my life. And it almost makes it easier 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.120 then for me to find those things that do add 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:20.880 value to my life that I forget that I forget, 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.040 like a book that I read a lot, and I 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:25.199 go back to his reference. You know, if I keep 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:27.480 that on my nightstand, but I don't have four other 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.000 books there to compete with it. You know, if I 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:33.080 if I have like this well curated selection right there 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.480 of things that I go too often, whatever it is 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:37.000 in my life if I make it easy to find 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:38.760 those things that I use often and get rid of 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.560 the things that I really don't need. It just kind 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:43.560 of everywhere I look at my house, I'm like, I 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:46.040 like that, I need that. I use that as opposed 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:48.560