1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Taking a Walk podcast, where your host, 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Buzz Night talks with musicians and industry insiders about music. 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: If you like this or other episodes, please share with 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,159 Speaker 1: a friend. Buzz Night talks with Hall of famers, and 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: he talks with new rising stars. And on this episode, 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: he talks with a Salt of the Earth new country 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: artist on Big Machine label group, Shane Prophet. In twenty 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: twenty two, Shane was mowing lawns in the town he 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: lived in outside of Nashville, and now he's touring, writing 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: material and releasing new music. Let's join Buzz as he 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: visits with Shane Prophet next on Taking a Walk. 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: Well, it's so good to be inside the hallowed halls 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: of the Big Machine label group, a place I love, 14 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: very cool hangout, and I'm meeting up for the first time. 15 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: With Shane Proffit. Yes, sir, Yes, sir, I'm smokes. 16 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 4: This is great. 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: Hey, thank you for having me. 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 4: You were on quite a little ride. 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 5: I am young lad, Yes, sir, it's a roller coaster ride, 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 5: to say the least. I'm blessed enough to have a 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 5: front row front row. 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 3: Seat on it. 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 6: So how are you feeling about it all? It's happened 24 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 6: pretty quickly for you. 25 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: Oh, It's happened real quick. I'm like a kid in 26 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: a candy shop. Though I'm having a. 27 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 5: Blast with it. 28 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: It's a lot of fun. 29 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 7: So let's see, sometime in twenty twenty two, legend has 30 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 7: it you were working for the city that you hail from, 31 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 7: And yes, sir, Tennessee working doing what. 32 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 5: So I. 33 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: Was working. I was the guy that cut the grass. 34 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 5: In the meetings of the road in Columbia, Tennessee, just 35 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 5: south of here, and I was making like eleven and 36 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 5: a half dollars an hour. 37 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 3: I was not making hardly any money at all, but. 38 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 5: That's what I did right out of high school, and 39 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 5: I just kind of stuck with it until until this 40 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 5: came about. 41 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 4: But it didn't just happen. 42 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 6: I mean you sort of had a label go off. 43 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, so I was. 44 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 5: The whole time I was working for the city, I 45 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 5: was also kind of writing and playing as many little 46 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 5: bar gigs as people would have me. And nowhere in 47 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 5: my hometown at all sells guitar strings. So anytime I 48 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 5: need anything to do with music, I have to drive 49 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 5: forty five minutes north towards Nashville. That's the closest guitar 50 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 5: center to where I live. And I was trying to 51 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 5: be slick. I wasn't dating this girl. We were at 52 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 5: the talking phase as people call it now, and we 53 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 5: were talking quote unquote, and I was trying to be 54 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 5: slick and kill two birds with one stone and make 55 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 5: a date out of going to get guitar strings. So 56 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 5: I caught up this girl. I asked her if she 57 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 5: wanted to ride with me to a guitar center. I 58 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 5: told her I'd take her out to eat. She agreed 59 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 5: to it, and we made that forty five minute ride 60 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 5: to guitar center. I go in, I get my streams, 61 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 5: I come back out, and I hopped in the truck. 62 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 5: After what you want to eat? She thought for a second. 63 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 5: She said, you know, Shane, I really like sushi. And 64 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 5: I was like, oh my goodness, no, please know, the 65 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 5: thought of sushi just turns my stomach, right. But I 66 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 5: wasn't going to be like, no, let's just go to 67 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 5: let's go to you know, get a cheeseburger instead. I 68 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 5: wasn't going to say that, So I punched in sushi 69 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 5: near me on my. 70 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 8: iPhone and we go to the closest sushi restaurant to 71 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 8: that Guitar Center and we go to walk in and 72 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 8: Chris Jansen holds the. 73 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 5: Door for me when we went to walk in. Now 74 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 5: here's the deal about that. I'd been to seven concerts 75 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 5: my whole life, and to see Chris was five of 76 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 5: those seven. 77 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: So I immediately knew who it was. I was immediately nervous. 78 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 5: And anyways, they seed us, and I decide while we're 79 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 5: sitting there eating that I'm going to go up and 80 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 5: introduce myself and tell them that I write songs. So 81 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 5: I ended up going up to him introducing myself, telling 82 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 5: him what a fan I was, and that I wrote 83 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 5: songs and that it would mean the world to me 84 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 5: if he would listen to some of the music i'd 85 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 5: been writing. Well, his wife was sitting out beside him. 86 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 5: She spoke up and she goes, hey, I'm Kelly. I'm 87 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 5: Chris's wife. I'm also his manager, and I'm also a 88 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 5: music publisher. Is that a receipt you're holding in your hand. 89 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 5: I write my email down on it, and you can 90 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 5: send us some songs. I said, yes, ma'am, that'd be great, 91 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 5: thank you, And Chris immediately looked up at me and 92 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 5: he said, you just say yes, ma'am and I said yes, sir. 93 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 5: He said I like that, pull up a chair and 94 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 5: talk to me. So I did and we sat there 95 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 5: for over an hour and we talked about anything you 96 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 5: could imagine, from hunting and fishing to writing songs to 97 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 5: you know, God and going to church and just anything 98 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 5: you could imagine. We talked about it, literally, and as 99 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 5: soon as I got up and I went out to 100 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 5: my truck, I set some songs to that email that 101 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 5: his wife had given me, and at the bottom of it, 102 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 5: I said, if you ever need anything, give me a call, 103 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 5: and I wrote my phone number down. Fast forward two 104 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 5: weeks later. It was a Tuesday morning. I was weed 105 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 5: eating in the meeting of the road. I felt my 106 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 5: phone ringing in my pocket. I pulled it out and 107 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 5: I looked at the caller Idea and it said Chris Jansen. 108 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: I answered it. 109 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 5: I said hello. He goes, what are you doing, Shane. 110 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 5: I said, well, it's a Tuesday morning. Like most people, 111 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 5: I'm at work. What are you doing man? He goes, well, 112 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 5: he said, I want you to go put your two 113 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 5: week notice in and come out on tour with me. 114 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 5: That's literally how it started. 115 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 3: Wow, that is how it started. 116 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 5: And so I went and put my two week notice 117 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 5: in and he offered me a publishing deal too, means 118 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 5: you get to write songs, you know, for other artists 119 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 5: for a living. And I didn't even I wasn't even 120 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 5: thinking about a record deal at the time because I 121 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 5: was just so you know, I was a kid in 122 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 5: the candy shop, just so happy to even be in 123 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 5: the music scene at all, you know, whether it be 124 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,119 Speaker 5: singing the songs myself or writing them for other people 125 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,239 Speaker 5: to sing. And so anyways, we went out on tour, 126 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 5: and that tour, I was opening up for him. I 127 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 5: was playing those shows just me and my guitar, and 128 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 5: I was playing a lot of a lot of the 129 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 5: songs I'd written, and I saw people were like, man, 130 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 5: you know that song you wrote and played to night 131 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 5: was great. So I just kind of kept on doing that. 132 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 5: And fast forward towards the end of the tour, he 133 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 5: set up a meeting here at Big Machine with Scott Boorshutta. 134 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 3: And Jimmy Horning. 135 00:06:54,680 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 5: Heard yeah, oh yeah, yeah, most people have. But so 136 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 5: we had a meeting with them on a Wednesday, and 137 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 5: the next day we were playing a sold out show 138 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 5: at the Ramenn Auditorium right down the road here. 139 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 3: I've heard of that point, yeah, oh yeah. 140 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 5: And Scott asked if we had a couple of comp 141 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 5: tickets to spare because he would like to come. 142 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: And I don't know, Scott, I don't think we can 143 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: do that well. 144 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 5: And you know what's weird is what's crazy to me 145 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 5: is how can Scott board Shuddter not just walk into 146 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 5: the rhymen and they'd be like, here's our front row seat, 147 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 5: you know. But anyway, so I had four comp tickets 148 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 5: to that show. I gave one to my mom, one 149 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 5: to my dad, and two the Scott board Shutdow. And 150 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 5: so I didn't tell my parents that I was even 151 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 5: meeting with a record label because I didn't want them 152 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 5: to get their hopes up and then get let down, 153 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 5: you know. 154 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 3: So mom had no idea. 155 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 5: That she was in there crying on Scott Boar shutters 156 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 5: shoulder the whole time I'm playing. 157 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: I look out in the crowd, I see Scott Boar 158 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: Shutdow in one seat. 159 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 5: My Mom's sitting right next to him, wiping the mascara 160 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 5: off of her eyes. 161 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: Right. 162 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 5: So, anyways, after the after the Ramen Auditorium show. I 163 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 5: got two standing ovations that night, opening up for Chris, 164 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 5: just me and my guitar. And as soon as I 165 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 5: got off stage, I see Scott boar Shuttle walking backstage 166 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 5: and I take my guitar off and I'm sitting there 167 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 5: cooling off, and Scott walks up to me. He sticks 168 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 5: his hand out and he says, welcome to the Machine team. Wow, 169 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 5: that's exactly how it happened. 170 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: That's incredible. 171 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 5: Yes, sir, it's a Cinderella story. 172 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 6: Did you look around and go, Am I being punked 173 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 6: here or something? 174 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: Is this candid camera? 175 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 5: Yeah? 176 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: I mean I was. I didn't want to be like Scott, 177 00:08:58,679 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: can you. 178 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 5: Just pinch me real quick? 179 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 7: You know? 180 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 5: So? No, but it honestly, it really is. It's a 181 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,599 Speaker 5: Cinderella story that I don't know how. Everything kind of 182 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 5: took place. And I would say within three weeks. So 183 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 5: that was on That was on A That was on 184 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 5: a Thursday. We went in for the original meeting on 185 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 5: a Wednesday. The next day, like I said, was the rhyman. 186 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 5: The next night we were in Kentucky, and the next 187 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 5: day we were somewhere else, and then we were coming 188 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 5: back home on Sunday and Monday morning I came in 189 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 5: and I signed the contract, and within three weeks we 190 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 5: were in a studio recording an album. Those gentlemen move fast, 191 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 5: they sure do they sure do they They moved fast. 192 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 5: And you know, I'm just I'm super super blessed to 193 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 5: be around a team like them where they believe in 194 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 5: me and I trust them. 195 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: And it's just. 196 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 5: You know, you hear you might hear a couple horror stories, 197 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 5: you know in Nashville, and you know, maybe the record 198 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 5: label or something, or you know, just y, you just 199 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 5: hear bad stuff in general sometimes. But man, I gotta 200 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 5: say I I would do anything for these guys, and 201 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 5: they do anything for me. And I'm just I'm really 202 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 5: fortunate to have a team like that. 203 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 6: Well, they do have an impeccable relationship they do with 204 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 6: the industry, with the artists, and a respected relationship. And 205 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 6: for a new artist, I think you you know, you're 206 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 6: in tremendous hands certainly. 207 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, just like the other day, I just 208 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 5: had I had a simple question and I was texting 209 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 5: Scott and he said, man, just call me, and so 210 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 5: I did, Like there, I I don't know, I don't 211 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 5: know any other record label where you could just call 212 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 5: the label president and founder and ask him a simple question. 213 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: And Scott, I mean he I don't know. 214 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 5: I don't think that man sleeps at all from what 215 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 5: I've been told. But you know, I've been told he'll 216 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 5: be sending emails at three am. 217 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 3: And I'm like, man, when do you sleep? You know 218 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 3: you're you're not human. 219 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 5: But he's the thing about you know, Scott and Jimmy 220 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 5: both and everybody here at the label, they don't hold 221 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 5: theirselves at a higher standard than anybody. They'll they'll do, 222 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 5: you know, from what I've seen, They'll do what what 223 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 5: they ask people to do. And that's just I think 224 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 5: that speaks volumes for everybody here and everybody everybody that 225 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 5: I worked with, even before I was signed and I 226 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 5: was still writing, you know, for other artists. Everybody speaks 227 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 5: highly of everybody here. 228 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: So it's great. 229 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 4: Who are some of the other artists that you had 230 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 4: written for? 231 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 5: Well, so I've got I've got some songs that are 232 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 5: kind of on hold right now for other artists, but 233 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 5: I have written. I've got some Christiansen cuts, so so 234 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 5: hopefully I can keep those racked up and keep on 235 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 5: racking other artists too. 236 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 3: You know, just grow that grow, that resume. 237 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 6: And what's your favorite part of the writing process. 238 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 5: I would say my favorite part of the writing process 239 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 5: would be obviously the writing process in itself is just 240 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 5: a lot of fun. But after the song is written 241 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 5: and demoed and everything, I absolutely love because I live 242 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 5: about an hour away from here, So after we write 243 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 5: it and get a rough demo and everything, I'll get 244 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 5: whoever the track guy is to send it to me 245 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 5: and I'll listen to it the whole way home, and 246 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 5: I'll come up with ideas, Hey, well let's let's try 247 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 5: this instead of this, and then i'll get them to 248 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 5: make those you know, quick changes if they're still there, 249 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 5: and that that's probably my favorite part because I'll spend 250 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 5: an hour listening to the same song just over and 251 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 5: over and over and trying to perfect it in any 252 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 5: way that I can. 253 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 6: Is there a part of the writing process that you 254 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 6: don't like? 255 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 5: There is, I would say tossing around the ideas because. 256 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 3: You have to be in I. 257 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 5: Guess, a certain mentality and if you know, if you're 258 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 5: tossing around these ideas, and one person might they might 259 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 5: have broke up with their girlfriend right before this rite, 260 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 5: This other person he's ready for Friday because he's ready 261 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 5: to drink a twelve pack of beer. So you're trying 262 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 5: to find the common ground there, trying to come up 263 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 5: with the best idea for everybody. 264 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 6: And when you get stalled at all in the writing process, 265 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 6: how do you break out of be installed? 266 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 5: Go get a slim gym. That's my that's my that's 267 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 5: kind of my secret. I go get a slim gym 268 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 5: or a pack of goldfish or a Rice Crispy, and 269 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 5: I'll sit there and snack and uh, you know, obviously 270 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 5: somebody has to well, everybody has to take take a 271 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 5: leak and relieve themselves. And I've had several ideas. Or 272 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 5: I'll be standing there at the urinal and something will 273 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 5: hit me and I'll cut it off and I'll slip 274 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 5: up my pants. Hey let's try this, and then I'll 275 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 5: go back in there. But yeah, I mean, there's there's 276 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 5: there's several several things you can do when you get stumped. 277 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 5: Everybody's different. That's what's so cool about songwriting is one 278 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 5: thing might not work for the next person, you know, 279 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 5: but just you find what works for you. 280 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 9: Some people like to take a walk to break out 281 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 9: of their little slump. 282 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 3: They sure, do you want to do that? 283 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 5: Let's do it. 284 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 4: We're not in a slump. 285 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: Though, We're not in a yeah, we're we're grooving. We're 286 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 3: in a groove. 287 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 4: All right, we'll take a walk and talk some more. 288 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 3: So I'm sweet. 289 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 9: So we're taking a saunter now in the uh music 290 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 9: this music music grow? 291 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, music grow. 292 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 6: What does it make you feel like when you're just 293 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 6: in this area? 294 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 4: No less in this building? 295 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: Does that really? 296 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 5: Well? 297 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,359 Speaker 4: Just put it all in perspective. 298 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 5: So I literally wrote a song about half a block 299 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 5: away a couple hours ago. 300 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 4: You did? 301 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 5: I did, And so chances are most of these songs 302 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 5: that you hear on radio are probably written on this 303 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 5: road Somewhere's right. So it's it's it's really cool getting 304 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 5: to kind of getting to kind of see where everything happens, 305 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 5: kind of behind the scenes. 306 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 9: There's so much here this I don't know, the vibe, 307 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 9: the history, the inspiration. Oh yeah, so do you remember 308 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 9: the first songs that you heard on the radio that 309 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,479 Speaker 9: connected with you? 310 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 5: You know what's crazy is whenever I was growing up, 311 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 5: I was born in two thousand, so whenever I was 312 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 5: growing up, derbsemently was popping off really strong on the radio. 313 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 3: Tim mcgrawl was on the radio real heavy, and you know, 314 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: it's just. 315 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 5: I would say that there's not just one specific song 316 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 5: that really sticks out more so than artists. 317 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 3: There's there's a lot of artists that stick out, whether 318 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: it be well and see. 319 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 5: Here's another thing, though, My mom is like a walking jukebox, right. 320 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 3: So I grew up listening to Merle Haggard. 321 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 5: I grew up listening to Whylan, Willie mur you know Merle, 322 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 5: and just Hank Jr. 323 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 3: Hank Junior is a big one, Conway Twitty. 324 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 5: Uh. 325 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: There's there's all kinds of people. My mom. 326 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 5: I can still remember her standing in the kitchen frying 327 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 5: chicken whenever a Bluetooth speaker had just came out, when 328 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 5: she went and bought, you know, a bluetooth speaker for 329 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 5: the first time, and she was sitting there listening to 330 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 5: Gretchen Wilson on that bluetooth speaker. 331 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 3: You could just still picture I remember that. 332 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 9: Yeah, but you I watched some of your talk stuff, 333 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 9: which will come back to. 334 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 4: A little bit more. 335 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 9: You clearly have an appreciation for, you know, different eras. 336 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: Different styles of music. 337 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 5: Absolutely well, I'm almost a believer, And there's different genres 338 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 5: inside of country music. There's new country, there's that old 339 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 5: school sounding country. 340 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: You know, there's a pop country and. 341 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: There. 342 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 5: I feel like every kind of music has paved a 343 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 5: way to what it is now. You know, some people 344 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 5: might not like that pop sound in music, country, you 345 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 5: know music. 346 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: Some people might not like the old school sound of music. 347 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 5: And so in my music, I try to get a 348 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 5: little bit for everybody in anything that I do. 349 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 3: So let's walk through some of the songs. 350 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 4: Walk through. You get that, Oh yeah, let's walk through. 351 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 4: Let's walk through. 352 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 9: Let's walk through some of the songs that will be 353 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 9: These are out but will be part of the forthcoming release. 354 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 4: All right, So tell me cut one that you recorded, 355 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 4: how it ought to be? Yeah? 356 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, so how it ought to be? 357 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 4: I love that song. 358 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 3: I'm a thank you. 359 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 5: I'm a firm believer that there's a difference in a 360 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 5: house and a home. 361 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 10: And what I mean by that is is, you know, 362 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 10: my mom and dad raised me to where we sat 363 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 10: down at the supper table every night, and they felt 364 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 10: like that was really important. 365 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 3: We sit down, we're a normal family every night for supper. 366 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 5: And I feel like if everybody in today's world had 367 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 5: a little bit more of that family life, this world 368 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 5: would be so crazy. And then the course it says 369 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 5: the world ought to try a piece of Mama's chicken 370 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 5: and feel the love around her tabletop in the kitchen. 371 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 5: I'm not trying to preach it anybody, but I think 372 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 5: everybody can agree. You know, hey that personally for me, 373 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 5: that's one of my favorite images growing up was having 374 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 5: those you know, family dinners and just. 375 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 3: Being a normal, normal family, just simple, simple, that's it. 376 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 3: Just simple, not complicated, realm and with good checking it. 377 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 5: But huh, I didn't get this big from not eating 378 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 5: good food. 379 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 4: What did your dad do for a living or does 380 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 4: he do for a living? 381 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, so my dad actually he's in the HVAC business, 382 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 5: so you know, we always had cold air growing up, thankfully. 383 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 5: But even whenever I was fresh out of high school, 384 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 5: I was helping him. On top of working for the city, 385 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 5: I was getting in cross spaces and getting an addicts 386 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 5: and helping him change out units and do anything that 387 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 5: I could do or help him. 388 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 9: Let's talk about some of the other songs that you've 389 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 9: you've released as part of the the full release. 390 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, what's another of your favorites. I know you love 391 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 4: them all. They're they're probably all like your favorite, you know, favorites, 392 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 4: favorite kid. 393 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly that. That's actually what I was about 394 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 3: to say. 395 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 5: When you're growing up, if you have siblings, chances are 396 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 5: you you ask your parents who the favorite child is, right, 397 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 5: And it's like, now I kind of know what my 398 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 5: parents mean when they say I don't have a favorite. 399 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 5: I love them all the same, but I would I 400 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 5: would say next on the list would probably be better 401 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 5: off fishing. 402 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 3: That that would be. That would be another one. 403 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 5: And that song it actually it came from a very 404 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 5: real place. I was stating this girl and she actually 405 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 5: ended up breaking up with me one day because I 406 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 5: decided to go fishing instead of hanging out with her. 407 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 3: And that's literally how it happened. 408 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 5: I waded up breaking up, and I remember, what's funny 409 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 5: is my mom was My mama didn't. 410 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 3: Much care for the girl anyway. 411 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 5: But what really really made her mad was that Friday, 412 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 5: we were having a fish fry right from the fish 413 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 5: we caught, and my mom was so mad because we 414 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 5: didn't have cold slaw at that fish run, and I 415 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 5: didn't tell her. Me and my girlfriend had broke up 416 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 5: and we didn't have cold Slawn at the Fish fron 417 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 5: So my mom was. 418 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 3: Mad about that. What happened to the girl that the 419 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 3: sushi date? The sushi date and that was a different girl? 420 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 5: Sure, man, I sound terrible right now, flying through all 421 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 5: these women like crazy, but no, that was actually our 422 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 5: first and last day. So something about that girl. So 423 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 5: as I thank you, you know, for you know, hanging 424 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 5: out with me and putting up with me, as I 425 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 5: kind of ditch you talking to Chris Jansen for over 426 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 5: an hour that night, just simply as a thank you, 427 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 5: I bought Rymen Auditorium tickets for this girl because I 428 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 5: gave all my cop tickets away, like I said, So, 429 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 5: I bought tickets from a scalper and I paid like 430 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 5: quadruple the price, right, and I buy these tickets. I 431 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 5: put them in an envelope, put them in her mailbox, 432 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 5: and I just wrote. 433 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 3: Thank you on the outside of the envelope. 434 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 5: Right well after the Rhymen show, I'm scrolling through a 435 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 5: Facebook or Instagram. 436 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 3: I couldn't remember which one. 437 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 5: And she had the audacity to bring her new boyfriend 438 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 5: to the Rhymen Auditorium show. Wow, Yeah, that's rough. So 439 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 5: that was our first and last day. 440 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 9: Oh, I see, well you never know, right, Yeah, yeah, 441 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 9: you guys might be back together sometime. 442 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: I've got a girl, now, I do. I have a girlfriend? 443 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 4: Right, that's not gonna happen if your girl's listening. 444 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, my girlfriend's My girlfriend's green. 445 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 9: You're stuck with him, right, Yes, sir, let's talk about 446 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 9: some of the other songs. 447 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 4: I know, but what are two? Are their favorites that 448 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 4: you wanted to highlight? 449 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 3: Still picks up. 450 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 5: Just came out with that one. Yes, still picks up. 451 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 5: It comes from very real place. I'm a I'm very 452 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 5: proud to say. Look, there's a songwriter right there leaving 453 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 5: a leaving a publishing house. Yep, just got done writing 454 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 5: a song. I'm sure he's probably been there since eleven o'clock. 455 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 5: But anyways, so it still picks up. 456 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 3: Such a sweet song. Well, thank you everybody. Everybody that's 457 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: listening to this has at least one person. 458 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 5: That I wish they could still call and talk to 459 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 5: just one more time, at least one person. And I 460 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 5: was on a hunting trip with my dad in eastern 461 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 5: Kentucky and he had a massive stroke while we were 462 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 5: on our hunting trucks, and I had a lot of 463 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 5: time to think in that waiting room. 464 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 3: You know, wait, I didn't I didn't know if I 465 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 3: was ever gonna even see him again. 466 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 5: And you know, in that moment when you don't really 467 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 5: know what's going to happen, I tried to think on, 468 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 5: you know, all the good times instead of a bad 469 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 5: You know, me and my dad we're best friends, but 470 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 5: we've had fights and stuff, and in that moment when 471 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 5: you don't really know what's going to happen, you just 472 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 5: try to think on all the good times. 473 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 3: And that's that's where that song came from. 474 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 9: It's so beautiful and it's once again so simple, and 475 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:41,479 Speaker 9: its roots and it's respect for relationships, which you know, 476 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 9: like we've talked about, is a part of society that 477 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 9: Christ feels like it's absent. 478 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, absolutely, thank you. 479 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 4: What else inspires you and you're write it? 480 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 5: There's you know what's crazy is there's not just like 481 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 5: five or six things. You could be driving down the 482 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 5: road and see billboard of a word and be like, well, 483 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 5: that could be something right there. You know, we could 484 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 5: be sitting here having this conversation and you say something 485 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 5: and me write it down. Whenever we get done thinking, hey, 486 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 5: that might that might work in this song. 487 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 3: You know, that could be a cool. 488 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 5: Title for a song. There's not there's not a certain 489 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 5: thing that I've looked for. There's multiple things that kind 490 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 5: of stick out. 491 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 9: And then how do you, like, you know, put the 492 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 9: detector on it to go? 493 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 4: Is this really gonna. 494 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 9: Stand the test of time as a lyric or a 495 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 9: vibe man? 496 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 4: Or can you there? 497 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 5: There's really no way to know until until you do it. 498 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 5: I still write terrible songs to this day. But for 499 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 5: every for every fifty songs you write, you can count 500 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 5: on one of them being all right. And that's no joke. 501 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 5: I mean, you don't you don't know if you can 502 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 5: write a good song until you write a bunch of 503 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 5: bad homes. I mean, like I said, to this day, 504 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 5: I still write some terrible songs. 505 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 3: And how do you stand with your conviction. 506 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 9: In something if other people in your circle kind of 507 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 9: maybe I don't know, don't seem to get it or 508 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 9: roll their eyes. How do you stand true to it 509 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 9: thinking of darn it, this is mine, I'm gonna believe 510 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 9: in it. 511 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 5: Well, you know, if chances are if you feel a 512 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 5: certain way about a song, other people will too, And 513 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 5: I think I think that's probably probably the biggest testament 514 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 5: to it is if you feel a certain way, chances 515 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 5: are there's somebody else out here that feels the same 516 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 5: way about it. 517 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 9: Who are some of the other writers and performers of 518 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 9: today that you're really are digging on? 519 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 5: Obviously, Chris is a big inspiration, a huge Jamie Johnson, 520 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 5: Hank Junior fan I would say Newer though for sure, Chris, 521 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 5: Chris Jansen, Chris Jansoner, Chris Stapleton to man, not too bad? 522 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: Right? 523 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 4: What what? What a sent of lungs on him? 524 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 5: Huh and uh? 525 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? 526 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 3: And Justin Moore huge, Justin Moore fan love Justin Moore. 527 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 3: And you know. 528 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 5: What what's crazy is, Yeah, I love I love you know, 529 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 5: certain artists. 530 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: But I don't even think it's it's necessarily about the 531 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 3: artist for me anymore. 532 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 5: It's about the songs because I am behind the scenes 533 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 5: that I'm writing these songs, and I may hear a 534 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 5: certain line in a song and think that is just 535 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 5: absolutely genius. 536 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 9: So isn't that the it's all about the song? The 537 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 9: Singer Songwriters Association that the motto the. 538 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 3: Logo, I think it is, Yes, sir absolutely. 539 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 4: Bert Harveston. 540 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 3: You know that gentleman. I don't know him personally, I 541 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 3: know the name. 542 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 4: I guarantee you he knows you. 543 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 3: Man. I feel man, I don't know what I mean. 544 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 4: Well, he's a good guy. You'll get to know him. 545 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 4: So we talked about TikTok earlier. 546 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 9: So how did you sort of get so natural on 547 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 9: all your social media TikTok especially. 548 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 5: Man, I saw everybody kind of I saw the trajectory 549 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 5: of people's careers through TikTok. And when I was working 550 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 5: for the City, I was just posting as many covers 551 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 5: and you know, songs I'd written as I could, really 552 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 5: and I saw I would do TikTok live quite a 553 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 5: bit and people would be like, man, this guy's great, 554 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 5: And you know, I just stuck with it because I 555 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 5: enjoyed it. 556 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 3: You know, I wasn't doing it brother. 557 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 5: From the amount of likes is you know, some people 558 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 5: may do it, but I was just doing it for 559 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 5: me more or less. 560 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 3: And I saw it, you. 561 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 5: Know, people were really really into that, and I just 562 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 5: stuck with it. 563 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 9: So what do you tell an artist who's listening to 564 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 9: this wherever they are across the country or across the 565 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 9: world because we have listeners all over the place. So 566 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 9: what do you tell an artist that maybe has been 567 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 9: added a long time and hasn't really broken through. 568 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 4: What advice would you give them? 569 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 5: I would say, keep at it, you know, don't let 570 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 5: anybody tell you it's a waste of time, because, like 571 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 5: I said, if you feel a certain way, other people 572 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 5: will too. It's just a matter of time. And I 573 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 5: mean I was very very blessed and fortunate, you know, 574 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 5: to get the break that I did. 575 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 3: But keep going out. 576 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 5: Keep playing those shows, keep writing those songs, and I problem, 577 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 5: it'll happen. It may be tomorrow or it may be 578 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 5: ten years from now, but something great will happen. 579 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 9: So how are you gonna keep your head on the 580 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 9: street with all this uh new film success? 581 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 5: Well, I think if I think, if my head got 582 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 5: a little crooked, my Mama would pop it back in 583 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 5: place for me. But I just I, like I said, 584 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 5: I'm no different than nobody that listens to my music. 585 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 5: I there's no amount of songs, no amount of number ones, 586 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 5: no amount of money that's ever gonna ever gonna change 587 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 5: where I come from. And and I'm I'm very very 588 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 5: proud of that. 589 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 9: So what's the uh fourth quarter gonna look like for 590 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 9: for Shane Project. 591 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 3: Well, we're gonna have new music. 592 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 5: Uh, I'm gonna keep being on the road, playing these 593 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 5: shows and getting to meet as many people as I can. Uh, 594 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 5: getting to travel around and play for people that maybe 595 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 5: haven't heard me and quite a few that have, and uh, 596 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 5: just having fun with it, meeting as many people as 597 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 5: I can and shaking as many. 598 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 3: Hands as I can. 599 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 4: What was it like the first time you heard one 600 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 4: of your songs on the radio. 601 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 3: I cried like a baby. 602 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 5: I cried like an absolute baby, and I facetimeed my family. 603 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: I was in Atlanta, Georgia when. 604 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 5: I first heard my song on the radio, and I 605 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 5: FaceTime my family. We got a quick video of the 606 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 5: first part of the song, and then which song was it? 607 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 3: It was how it ought to be? 608 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 5: Got a quick video in the first part. You actually 609 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 5: had videos on my Instagram too of the first time 610 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 5: I heard it on the radio and listen to I 611 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 5: think first verse and chorus. They were videoing it and 612 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 5: then they cut it off and I facetied my parents 613 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 5: and we all sat there and cried together. 614 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 3: Should cry. 615 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,719 Speaker 4: I had a blessed to if I had you on 616 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 4: my podcast. 617 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me man, it's been a lot 618 00:31:59,400 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 3: of fun. 619 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 9: We set a saunter and we got behind the scenes, 620 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 9: but I only see bigger and brighter things for you 621 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 9: and congratulated Thank. 622 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 3: You very much. 623 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk with Buzznight is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, 624 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.