WEBVTT - What were war masks?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from how Stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's Charles to be, Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry over there,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is stuff you should know. The It's so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what addition this is. It's a good one, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I predict. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't know much about this,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was when I found out. I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is right up our alley. Yeah. This

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<v Speaker 1>is UM part of what's very frequently called UM a

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<v Speaker 1>hidden history of World War One. This is not something

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people have known about for very long,

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<v Speaker 1>although it seems to be picking up kind of academic interests.

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<v Speaker 1>But this idea of people who were disfigured in the

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<v Speaker 1>war UM facial suffered facial disfigurements UM. And I should

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<v Speaker 1>I say, I want to say now before at the

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<v Speaker 1>outset UM facial differences is the preferred term. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>like a whole there's a whole sea change going on

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<v Speaker 1>in perception UM and you know, just being out there

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<v Speaker 1>with facial differences, it's like the antithesis of what we're

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<v Speaker 1>about to talk about. So hats off to that, um.

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<v Speaker 1>But this was a time when there was a huge

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<v Speaker 1>sudden uptick in facial disfigurements is what they call them,

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<v Speaker 1>from being at war. Yeah, I mean World War One

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<v Speaker 1>was a brand new war. Uh. The Industrial Revolution brought

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<v Speaker 1>on new horrific ways to kill people, like the machine gun.

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<v Speaker 1>The machine gun uh in trench warfare, they point out

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<v Speaker 1>and in both of these articles that I read that, UM, people,

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<v Speaker 1>the soldiers at the time still didn't have a full

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<v Speaker 1>understanding of just what machine gun meant, and that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have time to go pook your head above the

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<v Speaker 1>trench and look real quick, like those bullets are faster

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<v Speaker 1>than you, right, and you're not dodging one bullet. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of them comings. Maybe you get out of

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<v Speaker 1>the way of one, but there's three more headed your

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<v Speaker 1>way to. Yeah, so there wasn't I mean, it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>weird to think of that now, but there was not

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<v Speaker 1>that full understanding, and a lot of men in World

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<v Speaker 1>War One had a lot of bad things happened to

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<v Speaker 1>their face. Yeah. So not just from machine gun fire,

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<v Speaker 1>from sticking their head up above a trench, but also

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<v Speaker 1>from those mortar shells they've been around for a little while.

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<v Speaker 1>But they just prior to World War One, had really

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<v Speaker 1>been perfected into like really destructive instruments. Um, they blew

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<v Speaker 1>up and they created a totally different type of wound

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<v Speaker 1>than a bullet hole does because they're jagged pieces of metal, iron, steel,

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<v Speaker 1>and they could say, tear your lower jaw completely off, um,

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<v Speaker 1>take off half of your face like they just did

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of really weird, horrible things. And that that

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<v Speaker 1>advancement in UM weaponry, I guess you'd call it, combined

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<v Speaker 1>with some advancements in UM battlefield emergency medicine, so that

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<v Speaker 1>saving lives. Yeah, So that there were worse wounds than

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<v Speaker 1>ever before, but the potential of surviving a wound like

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<v Speaker 1>that was also greater than ever before, which culminated in

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<v Speaker 1>a huge uptick in people who whose faces had been

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<v Speaker 1>disfigured by either bullets or shrapnel. UM, more than anyone

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<v Speaker 1>had ever seen before. And as far as numbers went. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a couple of doctors in these articles that

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<v Speaker 1>have quotes, and one of them talked about like, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't we didn't see a broken bone. We saw bones

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<v Speaker 1>that were just shattered UM. At the time, I think

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<v Speaker 1>another quote talked about the weaponry was outpacing medicine um

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<v Speaker 1>and like you said, they would may be able to

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<v Speaker 1>save lives more, but it was outpacing like, well, now,

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<v Speaker 1>what do we do right? We don't have the means

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<v Speaker 1>to do facial reconstruction like they will in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>And in a very weird but also really real way,

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<v Speaker 1>World War One pushed reconstructive surgery to to advance by

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<v Speaker 1>leaps and bounds, just by all of a sudden having

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people to practice on and trying new

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<v Speaker 1>techniques on, but also having to do that all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, you know, rather than slowly taking your time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, no, you need to figure this out now.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of surgical techniques advance. But a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people point to World War One as like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the dividing line between anything that came before as

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<v Speaker 1>far as plastic surgery goes, and modern plastic surgery really

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<v Speaker 1>started in World War One. But people have been doing

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<v Speaker 1>stuff as far as plastic surgery goes for more than

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand years before World World War One, or no,

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<v Speaker 1>about almost three thousand years, hundred years at least. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's as far as I'm going I'm the worst at

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<v Speaker 1>figuring out Uh, time spans over centuries, as you know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I never do it. Um, you always leave it.

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<v Speaker 1>I usually just say the year and you're like, you

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<v Speaker 1>can figure it out how long ago that was? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>But about six is when we have evidence on paper

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<v Speaker 1>or papyri peppery of actual repairing things on the face

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<v Speaker 1>like that and suturing things on the face. Um. And Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe there was a Hindu doctor named Sasarata who

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<v Speaker 1>developed the first rhino plasty. Yeah, because in India, especially

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<v Speaker 1>during this time, like I think this is about this

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<v Speaker 1>is five BC, so about years ago. Um, if you

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<v Speaker 1>were caught stealing, you would get your nose lopped off.

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<v Speaker 1>You could also get it lopped off in war and

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<v Speaker 1>happened frequently enough that it was an Indian doctor at

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<v Speaker 1>that time who who created the technique of like building

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<v Speaker 1>a new nose. Uh. Your nose could also just fall off.

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<v Speaker 1>If it was the seventeen hundreds and you had syphilis, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>can you imagine something like that? No, syphilis sounds awful.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it would drive you in crazy to attack

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<v Speaker 1>your spine. But there were also these necrotic lesions called

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<v Speaker 1>gummos her gummas then an awful name for something that

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<v Speaker 1>eats your face away, a gumma. Oh I got a

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<v Speaker 1>new gumma today. Look at this thing, um. But it

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<v Speaker 1>would eat your nose clear off, It would eat your

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<v Speaker 1>eye out of its socket, It would eat your mouth away. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And the prevalence of syphilis actually was something that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of pushed um plastic surgery along as well. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>started experimenting with skin grafting U in the early eighteen hundreds. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The turn plastic surgery didn't actually come about until the

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen hundreds, but they were you know, I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 1>the results were great, but they you know, they were

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<v Speaker 1>leading the way all over the world with some things

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<v Speaker 1>like skin graphs and plastic surgery. Very rudimentary and crude,

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<v Speaker 1>but it did pave the way. Yeah, they were figuring

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<v Speaker 1>out techniques, but again they didn't have they didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>something like World War One to push things for. They

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<v Speaker 1>had syphilis, which is something um. But the they had

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<v Speaker 1>like cleft palates was one that was a surgery that

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<v Speaker 1>that had been not perfected or anything like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was a surgery you'd frequently see if you were

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<v Speaker 1>a surgeon you might be asked to do. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>World War One again just brought on a drove of

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<v Speaker 1>totally different cases that no one had ever seen before.

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<v Speaker 1>So they had to get clever. And there were a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of people who kind of came to the fore

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<v Speaker 1>just as far as the plastic surgery went. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a guy from New Zealand named Gillies. What was his

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<v Speaker 1>first name, Chuck Mickey, You know I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>say that right now. His name was Sir Harold Gillies. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a few people there were, and we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about all of them kind of as we go here,

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<v Speaker 1>but Sir Harold Gillies. Uh, there was a gentleman name

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<v Speaker 1>Francis Derwent Would and then there was a woman named

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<v Speaker 1>Anna Coleman Lad and they all contributed greatly to this

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<v Speaker 1>new cause of this really really sad cause of these

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<v Speaker 1>men coming home with these really terrible things that have

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<v Speaker 1>happened to their face. And not only like I'm shunned

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<v Speaker 1>by society, but like my kids can't look at me,

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<v Speaker 1>My wife wants to leave me, and some of these

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers are like and she rightfully should want to leave me,

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<v Speaker 1>Like how can she even look at me, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was just such an awful thing to have to live with.

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<v Speaker 1>And they all chipped into um I mean I call

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<v Speaker 1>them war masks basically like these wound masks. And they

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<v Speaker 1>would make and if you see the pictures of these,

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<v Speaker 1>it's amazing. They these before and after photos. They would

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<v Speaker 1>make masks and we'll get into the nitty gritty, but

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<v Speaker 1>essentially masks to cover these what what they called then disfigurements,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it was a missing I a missing nose, the

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<v Speaker 1>lower half of your jaw, so it wouldn't be something

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<v Speaker 1>you wore over your entire face, it would just be

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<v Speaker 1>the part that they needed. Right. So initially it was um, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we can advance plastic surgery. And that's where Harold Gillies

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<v Speaker 1>came in. He founded a hospital at sid Cup, which

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<v Speaker 1>is outside of London from what I understand, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was um that was where you would go if you

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<v Speaker 1>were British to get your to get plastic surgery. And

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<v Speaker 1>you could go stay there for like two years basically

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<v Speaker 1>getting a series of surgery and a series of surgery

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<v Speaker 1>just one after the other, um recovering new surgery, recovering

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<v Speaker 1>new surgery. And if they couldn't quite do it. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they would send you over to Francis de Wentwood. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about in a second, But there were there were

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<v Speaker 1>limits to plastic surgery. And when plastic surgery reached its limits,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess the soldier's face was still uh disfigured

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where he didn't feel like he could

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<v Speaker 1>return to society, or society was like, damn, you stay

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<v Speaker 1>over there. Then Francis der went would an anneet Anna

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<v Speaker 1>Coleman lad came into play. Yeah, he wrote, Gillies wrote

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<v Speaker 1>of and he he pioneered a lot of work that

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<v Speaker 1>they still say is still important to modern plastic surgery. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And he ended up writing a book and he he

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<v Speaker 1>was the guy that said, you know, before this, we

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<v Speaker 1>were doing things like cleft palates, and all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden we were getting two thousand patients a day coming

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<v Speaker 1>in with the most horrific injuries you could imagine. And

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<v Speaker 1>he ended up writing a book called A Plastic Surgery

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<v Speaker 1>of the Face. And if you look at this book,

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<v Speaker 1>and this article rightfully points out it's um, it really

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrates how far they had come and what they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to do, but also what they weren't able to

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<v Speaker 1>do at all at the same time. Yeah, like their

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<v Speaker 1>limitations even though he was doing for the time really

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<v Speaker 1>really advanced work. Yeah, I mean stuff we're like you

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<v Speaker 1>cut out a piece of skin and so it to

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<v Speaker 1>another part of your skin so that there's blood flow,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you cut off where it was originally connected

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<v Speaker 1>and then so that part down and basically you just

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<v Speaker 1>inchworm skin down the face to where you want it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they were figuring out things like you have to

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<v Speaker 1>keep it a blood supply going or else it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>just rot and fall off, like like really advanced stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And like in a lot of cases, they they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to restore the soldier's face basically back to or

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<v Speaker 1>some close simularity similarity to what it was prior to

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<v Speaker 1>the injury. But again there were plenty of them where

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like, we can't do anything for you, man,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when they would go that. It was when

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<v Speaker 1>those cases started to build up, Francis to Wentwood and

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<v Speaker 1>Anna Coleman lad stepped in. So we take a break. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we'll take a break right now. So one

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<v Speaker 1>thing I want to mention real quick is I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we talked about was outside sid Cup or in

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<v Speaker 1>Sidcup where Gillies had his hospital. Uh, they had there

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<v Speaker 1>were so many men coming through there. They had in

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<v Speaker 1>the town they had certain benches painted were they painted blue? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>And if there was a bench painted blue, it was

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a I guess you are, lack of a

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<v Speaker 1>better word, of warning to society, like here's where these

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<v Speaker 1>patients will be sitting, and you might want to not

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<v Speaker 1>sit there and look at them. Right. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>a horrible thing to do, but it was just sort

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<v Speaker 1>of emblematic of like what these men had to go through,

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<v Speaker 1>like children terrified in public of these people, Like they

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't put mirrors in these hospitals. Well yeah, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was supposedly it was an enormous shock to see yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even imagine it, Like I can't imagine what

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<v Speaker 1>it what it would be like to see your face

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<v Speaker 1>like missing major features because and this was a recurring

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<v Speaker 1>theme that I saw in a lot of the um

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<v Speaker 1>like academic coverage of this is like, on the one hand,

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<v Speaker 1>what these people were doing, it was like really great

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<v Speaker 1>and noble and they were trying to help these people

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<v Speaker 1>regain their identity. But at the other it's kind of like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>what does it say about society that, like these people

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't come back because they were missing like an eye

0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:05.719
<v Speaker 1>or a mouth or or something like that. You know,

0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like stay in your house, like we don't. I

0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.000
<v Speaker 1>don't want my kid to see this second thing. Yeah,

0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:13.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a complicated thing going on here. It's complex. It's

0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.360
<v Speaker 1>not just cut and dry like that was right. This

0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:17.920
<v Speaker 1>guy was missing a face. Gotta have a face. They

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<v Speaker 1>made him a mask to cover up his deformity. Um,

0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:24.760
<v Speaker 1>it was. There's more to it than that, you know.

0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean we're at a place now where we're making

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<v Speaker 1>great strides and acceptance of of stuff like this. But

0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.840
<v Speaker 1>imagine it's still bad. Imagine what it was like back then.

0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Have you seen that movie Wonder? No, it's so good?

0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.040
<v Speaker 1>What is it? So sweet? It's like put a little

0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.120
<v Speaker 1>boy with facial differences and like him going from home

0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:51.000
<v Speaker 1>school to school year. Um, it's heartbreakingly sweet. Owen Wilson's

0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:54.680
<v Speaker 1>dad doing his own Wilson think Julie Roberts plays his

0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Mom's great. It's a great movie we're seeing. Um. But yeah,

0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.840
<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a whole movement go going on. I

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<v Speaker 1>follow this this account. I think there might be British

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<v Speaker 1>called changing faces, and they're all just like out, I'm proud,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is my face, Like I'm sorry, I'm I

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<v Speaker 1>can't do anything about it. I'm not gonna do anything

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Um, you know, let's let's move from there.

0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:22.320
<v Speaker 1>And uh, it's neat. It's neat to see just that.

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<v Speaker 1>That change a huge shift from hugo stay over here

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<v Speaker 1>out of society, Like society doesn't really feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>can ask that of people any longer, whereas before it

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<v Speaker 1>was like my wife can't even look at me. She's

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<v Speaker 1>repulsed by me, and she she deserves to be. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a huge change, you know, and I think that's wonderful. Well,

0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:43.120
<v Speaker 1>and it was also at the same time where you

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<v Speaker 1>would uh, where Kennedy would get lobotomized and stuffed in

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<v Speaker 1>a a insane asylum forever never to be talked about again,

0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:56.600
<v Speaker 1>or you know, people committed family members, like a dark

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<v Speaker 1>time for humanity. Yes, and we're just now coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of it a little bit. Well, we we've come a

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<v Speaker 1>long way since then, obviously, but it's just amazing how

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<v Speaker 1>many I don't know how much of the stuff still

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<v Speaker 1>goes on. Sad Should we talk about the masks. So

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<v Speaker 1>if if Harold Gillies couldn't do anything for you, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you would move on to Francis derwent Wood, who was

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<v Speaker 1>an artiste if there ever was one. Yes, So he

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<v Speaker 1>had a shop, uh called the Tin Knows a Shop. Yeah,

0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.680
<v Speaker 1>he didn't call it that, he didn't, I don't know.

0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:38.600
<v Speaker 1>He may have facetiously, but it was the Tommy's the

0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.720
<v Speaker 1>wounded British soldiers who called it that. Yeah, t I

0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:45.440
<v Speaker 1>n as in you don't have a nose, here's one

0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.640
<v Speaker 1>made of tin. So yeah, they called it the Tin

0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Knows a Shop. Yeah, but technical. But the official name

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<v Speaker 1>was the Masks for Facial Disfigurement Department. Yes, and it was.

0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.320
<v Speaker 1>It was founded by Francis to White would who um

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<v Speaker 1>he was, like I said, he was an artist and

0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:10.080
<v Speaker 1>he um and enlisted as a private in the medical

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<v Speaker 1>core at age forty four, Yeah, which is obviously, especially

0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:17.159
<v Speaker 1>back then, kind of old to do something like that. Uh.

0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.440
<v Speaker 1>He found pretty quickly that he didn't get a great duty.

0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:24.600
<v Speaker 1>He was, um he described as errand boy chores and

0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:27.359
<v Speaker 1>he had a knack though. He was an artist, so

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<v Speaker 1>he had a knack for coming up with some pretty

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<v Speaker 1>ingenious things. At first it was splints that were apparently

0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:36.600
<v Speaker 1>pretty creative and sophisticated. Then those chattering teeth that just

0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:41.640
<v Speaker 1>made everybody laugh because we're his Why was that everything?

0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:43.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, is that supposed to be funny? I guess,

0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:47.480
<v Speaker 1>look at those teeth chatter seventies, I guess. So I

0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:49.119
<v Speaker 1>was in the pet rock, which, by the way, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do a show on that. Is there shows

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<v Speaker 1>worth of material or is that like a short stuff?

0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Do you think? I don't know, we'll find out. Yeah,

0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:59.119
<v Speaker 1>that's a nice tease. Um, maybe we'll come up with

0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:01.919
<v Speaker 1>the third podcast. It is called Somewhere in Between Stuff

0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:08.520
<v Speaker 1>exactly twenty three minutes exactly. Um, so, yeah, he was

0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:10.800
<v Speaker 1>doing Aaron Boy stuff. Had a lot of creativity. I

0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.840
<v Speaker 1>guess he caught the eye of the people there and

0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:15.880
<v Speaker 1>as an artist they said, you know what, you could

0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:20.960
<v Speaker 1>actually be very useful and constructing this kind of new idea.

0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Which are these uh these and again that's what they

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<v Speaker 1>call them back then, like disfigurement masks. Right, they had stuff.

0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:33.440
<v Speaker 1>They had prosthetics before facial prosthetics, but they were made

0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:37.040
<v Speaker 1>of rubber. They weren't very good they aesthetically they were

0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:41.760
<v Speaker 1>they were utilitarian. They were They were meant to maybe

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<v Speaker 1>help you chew again if you were missing your lower jaw,

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<v Speaker 1>um whatever. They were meant to solve the problem of

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<v Speaker 1>the missing function. This is the opposite of that. Yeah,

0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.840
<v Speaker 1>this is cosmetic. I guess you would call very much

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<v Speaker 1>so aesthetic cosmetic. Francis to Wentwood said like, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to restore function. That's not the point

0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:07.919
<v Speaker 1>of what I'm doing. Um, what I'm doing is restoring identity.

0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Somebody put it that he was making portraits out of

0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:15.760
<v Speaker 1>metal they called them portrait masks, right, yeah, and then

0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:19.080
<v Speaker 1>putting them on to the person to to basically restore

0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:23.080
<v Speaker 1>their look back to what it was pre war. Yes,

0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:27.320
<v Speaker 1>and they were also very intent at at Wood's shop

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<v Speaker 1>of um treating these men with dignity and respect um too.

0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I think one of the nurses even talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful a face without a nose was. She was, Yeah,

0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:45.400
<v Speaker 1>it was Kathleen Scott, who was the widow of Robert Scott,

0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Robert Falcon Scott, who died in Antarctica on an expedition.

0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:52.359
<v Speaker 1>But she was a she was a sculptor who helped

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<v Speaker 1>out And it's like these are people still and they're

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful in their own way. Yeah. Her quote was men

0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:02.600
<v Speaker 1>without noses are very beauty full, like antique marbles, which

0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.399
<v Speaker 1>I have seen antique marbles all the time, so you

0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:08.440
<v Speaker 1>know exactly what she meant. They also said it would

0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:12.480
<v Speaker 1>shop to always look a man straight in the face. Remember,

0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:15.080
<v Speaker 1>he's watching your face to see how you're going to react.

0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:18.160
<v Speaker 1>So it started when they first would come in there

0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:24.000
<v Speaker 1>with being treated like a human being, which really is great.

0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:29.640
<v Speaker 1>So uh. He would establish his unit in March nineteen sixteen,

0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and by June of the following year he appeared in

0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:39.040
<v Speaker 1>the Lancet, the great legendary British medical journal that's still

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<v Speaker 1>around today. And then eventually at the end towards the

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<v Speaker 1>end of nineteen seventeen, there was a Boston based sculptor

0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:51.480
<v Speaker 1>in the United States, obviously in her previously to being married.

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<v Speaker 1>She was Anna Coleman Watts, and she was very talented

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<v Speaker 1>as a sculptor and eventually married a man named Maynard

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<v Speaker 1>lad who was a physician, and he moved to France

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<v Speaker 1>with him because he got a gig with the Red Cross. Yeah,

0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:11.240
<v Speaker 1>he was like the injured Children's core leader something like that.

0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:15.159
<v Speaker 1>Man um and yeah. So they moved to France and

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<v Speaker 1>she found out what Francister went Wood was doing back

0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:21.480
<v Speaker 1>in England and she's like, I'm going to try that here.

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<v Speaker 1>So with the Red Cross she set up something called

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<v Speaker 1>the Um Studio for Portrait Masks in Paris in the

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<v Speaker 1>Latin Quarter and she went to work doing the same thing. Again,

0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:38.040
<v Speaker 1>this is all pioneering stuff, Like these people were making

0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:40.520
<v Speaker 1>this up as they went along. There were a couple

0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:44.320
<v Speaker 1>of trained sculptors who turned during the war, turned their

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<v Speaker 1>talents to restoring facial identity to men whose faces have

0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:55.520
<v Speaker 1>been disfigured by shrapnelan bullets. Yeah, and by all accounts, Um,

0:21:57.080 --> 0:21:59.840
<v Speaker 1>the lad Studio was very much the same way of

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<v Speaker 1>like trying to set them up for success as humans

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<v Speaker 1>and treating them with dignity or place in the Latin

0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Quarter was very beautiful. It was described as a large,

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<v Speaker 1>bright studio Uh, plants and ivy on the walls and

0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:17.200
<v Speaker 1>flowers everywhere, and she wanted to make it like I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a it's significant that these were artists and

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<v Speaker 1>not from the medical establishment, because they wanted to set

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<v Speaker 1>up these beautiful places for these men to come and

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<v Speaker 1>feel good about what's going on there? And I think

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, like hospitals were grim and any kind

0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:35.600
<v Speaker 1>of treatment you got was just I mean, we've talked

0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:38.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot about old medicine. It was not a sunny

0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:42.600
<v Speaker 1>experience in any way. Then those horrid like wicker wheelchairs

0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:46.200
<v Speaker 1>that are the creepiest things anyone's ever seen. Yeah, so

0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Lad tried to set up a really lovely, cheery, welcoming

0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:52.400
<v Speaker 1>space for her patients to come in, which is just great.

0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:56.040
<v Speaker 1>And there's news real footage from that era of Lad

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<v Speaker 1>working in her studio with one of her patient clients.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you'd all him, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's missing a substantial part of his lower face, maybe

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:10.800
<v Speaker 1>his lower jaw. And she attaches the prosthetic the mask

0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:13.560
<v Speaker 1>and like tucks it behind his ears, like it hangs

0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:17.480
<v Speaker 1>on behind his ears right, and um, it's it's the

0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:20.920
<v Speaker 1>neatest thing. Like he smiles, like he goes from not

0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:23.600
<v Speaker 1>sad but neutral, but then all of a sudden he

0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:27.479
<v Speaker 1>smiles and it's like it was a warm, genuine smile. Um.

0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:31.159
<v Speaker 1>And it's it's really moving because you can read about it.

0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:34.080
<v Speaker 1>It's like we did all you want and like, oh,

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:36.560
<v Speaker 1>here's this quote from this person, and this person said

0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:38.640
<v Speaker 1>this was an amazing thing too. And here's a letter

0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:43.040
<v Speaker 1>of somebody. We're seeing that guy smile when when um,

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:47.040
<v Speaker 1>when Anna Coleman lab puts the prosthetic on his face,

0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:51.480
<v Speaker 1>says it all like all comes into to focus what

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:54.159
<v Speaker 1>everybody in the articles are talking about. Yeah, and there

0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:57.520
<v Speaker 1>are a lot of great before and after photos of

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<v Speaker 1>the end. We'll get in, you know, in a few

0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:01.480
<v Speaker 1>minutes on how what they made these things. But there

0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:03.200
<v Speaker 1>are a lot of great before and after photos. And

0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:07.600
<v Speaker 1>when you look at these because initially in today's in

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:11.680
<v Speaker 1>two thousand eighteen, is you think about, well, these people

0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 1>had a horrific thing happened to their face, and so

0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:18.720
<v Speaker 1>now they wear a mask like attached by either eyeglasses

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:21.560
<v Speaker 1>or hooked over their ears to to mesh with the

0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 1>rest of their face. And your first thought is like,

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:27.719
<v Speaker 1>how unbelievable did that look? But when you look at

0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:31.200
<v Speaker 1>these photos, they look really good. And you can only

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:37.680
<v Speaker 1>imagine that just that sense of uh normalcy for lack

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:39.680
<v Speaker 1>of a better word, meant so much to these men,

0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 1>even covering it up, not fixing it cover to to

0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 1>blend in, Yeah, I think is what they were looking

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 1>for pretty extraordinary. You want to take another break, Yeah,

0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:54.200
<v Speaker 1>let's do it. We're gonna take a break, everybody. We

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 1>just decided, I don't know if you heard or not,

0:24:56.840 --> 0:25:21.240
<v Speaker 1>and here we go. All right, So let's talk about

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:24.359
<v Speaker 1>how these masks were made. Again. They were revolutionary. These

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:27.439
<v Speaker 1>people were making it up as they were going along. Um,

0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:30.080
<v Speaker 1>but they hit upon it pretty well right out of

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 1>the gate. And the big one of the big differences

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 1>was that these weren't rubber prosthetics that were meant to

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 1>restore function. They were metal masks that were meant to

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Speaker 1>restore identity. Yeah, and a little dignity maybe. Um. So

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:47.920
<v Speaker 1>the first thing would happen is LAD or you know

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:50.960
<v Speaker 1>whoever is working on this, because they all LAD and

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:54.200
<v Speaker 1>would both had people they worked with on their teams.

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 1>So the first thing they would do is get a

0:25:56.119 --> 0:26:00.879
<v Speaker 1>photo obviously more than one photo of pre war and

0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:02.639
<v Speaker 1>what they look like. Because the whole thing is, I

0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:04.920
<v Speaker 1>don't want to make you look like you looked before,

0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 1>not just well let me just fashion you a nose.

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:09.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I want your nose to look like your

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 1>old nose. And so they would get these photos that

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:16.400
<v Speaker 1>the people, the patients and soldiers would have to heal

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 1>completely in order to undergo this process at all. Like

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:22.119
<v Speaker 1>it's not the kind of thing they could do, you know,

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 1>as they're healing. Uh. And so they made a plaster cast,

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>and then after that they would make what's called a squeeze,

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:33.200
<v Speaker 1>which is like a clay version of that cast. And

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>then eventually that would end up in a galvanized copper

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:40.920
<v Speaker 1>mask about the thickness of like a playing card, right,

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 1>And the plaster cast that they would make of your

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 1>face was supposedly just an awful, awful process, Like they

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 1>would give you a little straw to put in your

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 1>mouth and like that's how you breathe for as long

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 1>as they were they took to make the plaster cast. Yeah,

0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:58.680
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty bad. It would be bad anyway, but after

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 1>you've suffered that trauma right to your face, imagine anything

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:06.880
<v Speaker 1>near or around your face would be really uh. Yeah,

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 1>And let's talk about that what led up to that.

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:11.119
<v Speaker 1>First of all, you were shot in the face or

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:13.680
<v Speaker 1>hit was trapnel in the face. Sometimes you would be

0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:16.200
<v Speaker 1>laying there if you went down in no man's land

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 1>for hours days before somebody came and got you. You

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:24.680
<v Speaker 1>were taken to a Field Hospital and then flown over

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 1>to England or driven over to England or by boat.

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Be quiet, everybody, um or taken to Paris um and

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 1>you underwent possibly two years of surgical reconstruction, and finally,

0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 1>once all your surgeries were healed, you would find yourself

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 1>in Mrs Ladd's studio or Francister went Wood studio getting

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 1>plaster coated over your disfigured face, holding a little straw

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>in your mouth. So, yeah, it was. It was probably

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:55.159
<v Speaker 1>not the greatest thing that they've ever experienced. It was

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 1>probably tied for first with a couple of those other

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 1>ones along the way for being terrible. Yeah, and like

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 1>you said, this is after um, noble but not great

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:10.160
<v Speaker 1>result attempts at you know, doing it the plastic surgery way.

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 1>So these people are desperate there. I mean, if you've

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 1>gone in there to get a portrait mask, you're that's

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 1>your last stop to try and resume, you know, your

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:22.159
<v Speaker 1>previous life. Basically suppose as you can get to it.

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>All right, So if you had facial hair, if you

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:28.920
<v Speaker 1>had a mustache, which a lot of men did back then, um,

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>they would use real hair and add that into the mask. Her.

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:35.959
<v Speaker 1>I think it took her about a month to make

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 1>one of these. Yeah. I don't know if you said

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 1>or not, but she was credited as by far being

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 1>the better artist, Like the result was really talented, much

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 1>better coming out of the Lad studio than the Woods studio. Yeah,

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>but he was faster and more prolific. Yeah, he had

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot more. I think he served a lot more patients. Uh.

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 1>In the end, I believe her shop was only up

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 1>in about a year and with four assistants, created a

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty five man asks, which UM, again in

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the grand scheme of things, is not very many people,

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>but changed all of those lives, you know. So they

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 1>so they're from the plaster cast. You said they made

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 1>a squeeze. The cast is a negative, the squeeze is

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>a positive. And then they would use the squeezes the

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 1>model for making the cast that or the mask that

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 1>they needed UM and then they would they would cast

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 1>it into UM copper one thirty second of an inch

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 1>thick and then it like you said, it would attach

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 1>by UM spectacles or around the ear. And Mrs Lad

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 1>you said she used hair, Yeah, but would use like

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 1>he painted his on. Yeah. So when you go to

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 1>look up these photos. They'll have the before and after

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>and on the left. You know, it's sometimes you can't

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 1>even tell what this man might have previously looked like,

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 1>and so you look at the right and then it

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>looks you know, it's a mask, but you're like, you

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 1>can tell that that's what this guy looked like, and

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 1>it's like, it really is true. The loss of identity

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>that must happen have happened at least back then, um,

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure now too. Where if you undergo a

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 1>facial trauma, it's amazing what how drastically it can change

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 1>how you look your face. It just changes from what

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>it was before. When you see some of the before

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 1>before pictures, so before the injury, then after the injury,

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 1>and then after the mask that before the injury, and

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 1>then after the injury picture, sometimes you're like, how, like

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>I I don't see that person in there at all.

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I can imagine, like we said, they kept

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>mirrors out of the ward because seeing yourself like that,

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 1>especially if you were in the process of undergoing surgery,

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they were like, you don't need to see

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:52.360
<v Speaker 1>this at all, buddy, just just let us keep working

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 1>on you. You know. Yeah, one of the tougher parts

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 1>of this process too, and um, and also most important

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>was matching the skin tone. So obviously, if you have

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 1>a mask that doesn't look like your other you know,

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 1>skin tone on the rest of your face, then it's

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 1>going to stand out more. And your whole point was

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>to blend in. So she would save it that for

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 1>last and actually fit the mask on the man and

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and paint it while it was on their face so

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 1>she could match it as exactly as possible. I think

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 1>used a couple of different oil paints at first didn't

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 1>work out, yeah, and then landed on enamel, which is

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 1>and these things still you know, we should say it's

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 1>not like it would last twenty years like they were.

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, to mask you wear every day, so it

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 1>would get beat up over the years, and you know,

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>wear and tear happened for sure. Um. One of the

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 1>other things that the paint too is apparently the hue

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 1>was really difficult because on like an overcast day, it

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 1>might look really lifelike, but then that same hue in

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 1>sunlight looked like dead, so they had to like kind

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 1>of split the difference between it too. So from what

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I saw, the paint getting the complexion right, was the

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 1>hardest part for sure. But yeah, those masks supposedly had

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 1>a life expectancy of just about a couple of years.

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>But the thing is is after the war, um Wood

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Studio closed down and so did lads um, and so

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 1>these men that was it they got their mask. It

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 1>was almost like this weird little pop up that happened,

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 1>that went away and never came back. So these men,

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, clung to their masks for as long as

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 1>they could, and so much so that um they there

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 1>are there. Basically aren't any of those masks. No one

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>is like, oh, this is a World War one UM

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 1>portrait mask. Those are all buried with their owners because

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 1>those masks became part of their public identity as well. Yeah,

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I bet you there's gotta be one somewhere, right, surely,

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>but I think most of them are probably buried with

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>their owners. And these, like I said it, with lad

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 1>only masks, you were very lucky if you were able

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 1>to get one of these, because there were, um I

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>believe they estimated twenty tho fate what they called facial

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 1>casualties in World War One alone. So out of that number,

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 1>to only get eighty five from like the best artists

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>working is not very many people. And they think Francister

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 1>went would created more, um just because he was open

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>longer and he was more prolific, or he's faster. But um,

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>they don't have a number. But even still, even if

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:32.959
<v Speaker 1>he made three times that it's nothing compared to how

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 1>many people have become facially disfigured from injur injuries. Right. Yeah,

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 1>and lad um, she was lauded, she did a lot

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 1>of interviews. Um. When she got back to the United States.

0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Two she was made a chevalier. Nice touch, is that right, Yeah,

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Chevalier of the French Legion of Honor. And she just

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 1>went back to her you know, her art when she

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 1>got back to the United States. Yeah. This this, I

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 1>want to say, this all awesome Smithsonian article by Caroline

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Alexander who talks about this. Yeah, it's good. It mentions

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 1>that her buss like she was a sculptor and before

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 1>her work in the war and after her work in

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:14.799
<v Speaker 1>the war, it's actually really kind of generic portraits of people. Yeah,

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Like it lacks like the pizzas and like the human

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:22.839
<v Speaker 1>like touch that her actual wartime mask efforts had. Yeah,

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 1>that's really interesting. Yeah, it's cool. I like her busts.

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I liked I like her style. It looks weirdly like

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 1>early twentieth century modern Yeah. Uh. And she died in

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:35.720
<v Speaker 1>ninety nine. Um, she died young. She died at sixty

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 1>in Santa Barbara. Um. Francis Derwentwood died also young, fifty

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>five years old, in nineteen twenty six in London. And uh,

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 1>he was remembered obviously post war as well, which is

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 1>great public monuments war memorials, and the Machine Gun Corps

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>in Hyde Park Corner in London is uh apparently where

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 1>one of the most poignant war memorials him loves sits. Yeah. Yeah,

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 1>And like you said, I mean twenty thousand of these

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 1>injuries and only say several hundred of them received masks.

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>And again, this is a time when society didn't really

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 1>want you back if you were officially disfigured in the war.

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 1>And there was a there was an idea to basically

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 1>buy some land for disfigured officers, um, to have them

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:31.320
<v Speaker 1>just basically go live off the land over here and

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:34.440
<v Speaker 1>have a nice pension and just stay over here. And

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 1>those plans didn't come to fruition um, and so they

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:41.359
<v Speaker 1>were just kind of expected to just go fade away,

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 1>just go away, we don't want to see you. In Australia,

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:48.720
<v Speaker 1>apparently they had a lot of um facially disfigured soldiers

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 1>returning home. Um, a lot of them would just go

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 1>out and live into the live in the bush. You know,

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 1>it'd be like living in the woods in in England

0:35:57.600 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 1>or the U. S is okay, I'm gonna go live

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 1>in the woods now because you guys don't want to

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:03.320
<v Speaker 1>see my face anymore. And a lot of them committed

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 1>suicide too, said said to say, or died of suspicious

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 1>accidental deaths. Yeah. Man, like the stories where you hear

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 1>about the their kids being frightened of their father and

0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 1>stuff after the war just heartbreaking. Yeah, And that was

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 1>supposedly a pretty recurrent anecdote in newspaper articles about this

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:25.479
<v Speaker 1>about these studios, like they're trying to save people because

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 1>their own kids can't stand to be around them, you know. Yeah,

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>but kids even scared of the mask because uh, you know,

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>it points out as while they did so much to

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 1>restore it, they were still expressionless faces, which um, you

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:41.440
<v Speaker 1>know could could creep out of kid for sure. But

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 1>we've come a long way and Wonder is proof positive

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 1>of that. Go see that movie. It's good. I will. Uh.

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 1>If you want to know more about facial differences, go

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 1>check out UM I don't know, just search facial differences,

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.320
<v Speaker 1>check out changing faces dot org and go see Wonder.

0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Why not it's a good movie. I'll check it out.

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 1>That was the second one was directed to everything. Okay, UM,

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 1>since I said that it's time for a listener mail,

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call this relative of President Pierce here parentheses

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 1>lighthearted O God. I'm hey, guys, big fan had a

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:21.840
<v Speaker 1>baby in August, so I've been behind on the episodes.

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Finally got to these new short stuff where you mentioned

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>that President Franklin Pierce, and I couldn't help but laugh

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:29.399
<v Speaker 1>out loud when I heard your disdain for the band.

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 1>My baby son's middle name is actually Pierce, just like

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 1>his father and every other male that was born in

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 1>his family, a tradition that has stemmed since you guessed

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 1>at Franklin Pierce became president. My husband is a great

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:48.200
<v Speaker 1>great nephew of Pierce the Best. His grandmother actually still

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 1>owns the presidential china. That's kind of cool. Every time

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:53.920
<v Speaker 1>someone finds out my husband a descendant of a president.

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 1>He gets so excited, but my husband and all of

0:37:56.560 --> 0:38:00.080
<v Speaker 1>his family just roll their eyes and exclaim, oh, he

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:03.759
<v Speaker 1>was the worst president. Everyone just remembers Lincoln anyway. It

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 1>makes me laugh every time that his family doesn't think

0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 1>much of this man any more than the rest of

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:10.399
<v Speaker 1>the world. So just take comfort knowing that your hate

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:14.279
<v Speaker 1>on Piers and his faults uh during his time in

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 1>office aren't past his own family. Man. That's something I'll

0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 1>do my best to make sure my son makes up

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 1>for it. So, Sad I missed your shows in Denver,

0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 1>please come back. And that is sincerely from Sarah, mother

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 1>of a Piers. Thanks Sarah, mother of a Piers. That

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 1>was a great email. Yeah, and we'll come back to

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:34.480
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<v Speaker 1>Denver loves us, loves us, can't get enough of us

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