WEBVTT - TechStuff Classic: Tesla- The Man, The Myths, The Truth

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tex Stuff, a production of I Heart Radios.

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<v Speaker 1>How Stuff Works. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with

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<v Speaker 1>I Heart Radio and I love all things tech and

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<v Speaker 1>um looking at the calendar, it looks like it's a Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>That means it's time for another classic episode of tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode we're about to listen to originally published back

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<v Speaker 1>in February two thirteen, and it's all about Nicola Tesla.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure you guys are at least familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>the name. Tesla has been the featured player in many

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<v Speaker 1>an Internet meme over the past several years, and there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of stories about him. Some of them

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<v Speaker 1>are true, and some of them are probably exaggerated, and

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<v Speaker 1>some of them might just be completely off basse. So

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to develop a full episode about Tesla and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about him his good points, is bad points, everything

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<v Speaker 1>in between, and that's what we're going to listen to.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's sit back and hear this classic episode of

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff. We are focusing finally, after many, many, many

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<v Speaker 1>people have asked us to do a full episode about

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<v Speaker 1>Nicola Tesla. The Internet legend the the man placed on

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<v Speaker 1>a virtual pedestal on the Internet that is gleaming and

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<v Speaker 1>beauteous and will zap you if you ever dare say

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<v Speaker 1>anything against him. He is, he's staring at us from

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<v Speaker 1>the walls of the podcast room right now. Yes, he is. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The question of whether or not he'll be staring at

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<v Speaker 1>us in our news studio it remains to be answered. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll probably end up propping him up on a mic

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<v Speaker 1>stand or something, so he's still judging us constantly. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to talk about Tesla, kind of talk about

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<v Speaker 1>his his contributions to technology and also maybe take a

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<v Speaker 1>critical look at some of the some of the claims

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<v Speaker 1>about slaw and some of the misconceptions people have about

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<v Speaker 1>his contributions. Yeah, he's he's a mythological figure, really a

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<v Speaker 1>mythological nerd figure, which is which is fabulous. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really terrific, and it's it's it's understandable why because

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<v Speaker 1>he he by the end of his life, was so downtrodden.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's nothing that people and geeks especially love more

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<v Speaker 1>than than an anti hero. Yeah. Here, here's a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who has been beaten down. He's he's Uh, seen his

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<v Speaker 1>fortunes dwindle away. He's he's made some bad choices. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He has all the earmarks of a classic geek. Geeks

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<v Speaker 1>love this underdog kind of story. And when you get

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<v Speaker 1>into things like sort of the the demonification of other people,

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<v Speaker 1>Edison in particular, Yeah, but even people like JP Morgan

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<v Speaker 1>and Lustinghouse, then it seems like the whole world had

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<v Speaker 1>turned against him. And and depending on how you look

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<v Speaker 1>at his story, it can definitely come across that way.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's doing a little bit of a disservice to

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<v Speaker 1>the entire tale. And Uh, the reason why I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about in this way is because there is what we

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<v Speaker 1>thought some people referred to as the cult of Tesla, right,

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of elevating him beyond what his contributions were. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a cartoon that I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>you guys out there saw because he posted about it

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<v Speaker 1>on our Facebook page that the Oatmeal did all about

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla and his contributions and his rivalry with Edison and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of comparing him favorably against Edison in every single

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<v Speaker 1>category and saying that there should be a Tesla museum.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we wanted to talk about what Tesla actually

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<v Speaker 1>did and what he did not do, and uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not he deserves all those acohomis yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And and and just just before anyone who is a rabbit

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<v Speaker 1>fan of the oat mal gets honest, because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I do not want to incite your anger. Uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>we realize that it's a comic and that that although uh,

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<v Speaker 1>many of the statements are factual, the writer whose name

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<v Speaker 1>I'm completely forgetting right now has come out and said that, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a comic. I'm I'm a comic artist. And

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<v Speaker 1>some of this was hyper Bowl so perfectly. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>like its hyper Bowl. It's way better than that Super One.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the hyper Bowl a lot more. I am

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<v Speaker 1>never gonna let you live that down. And we are

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<v Speaker 1>not real recording it. Let's move on. So yeah. Tesla

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<v Speaker 1>born on July tenth, eighteen fifty six, in what is

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<v Speaker 1>now Croatia, now eighteen fifty six by the Gregorian calendar.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have looked up at Tesla's birth and you

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<v Speaker 1>saw that it was actually in June June, that's because

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<v Speaker 1>at the time they were keeping time with the Julian calendar.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's only when you account for that when you

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<v Speaker 1>match those up that you realize that. Okay, well, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're using a real calendar like I do, the one

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<v Speaker 1>that's on my smartphone, and that's the only way I

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<v Speaker 1>know what day it is. It was July t So

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen fifty six July t and born in in Uh

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<v Speaker 1>part of Austria, Hungary which is now Croatia UM And

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<v Speaker 1>as a boy, he went to what we would think

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<v Speaker 1>of in the United States is elementary school or primary

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<v Speaker 1>school and studied German arithmetic and religion because his dad

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<v Speaker 1>was a pastor and his mom's father was a pastor,

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<v Speaker 1>both both in the Orthodox Church. Actually, so yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>he definitely had a religious upbringing and his father really

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<v Speaker 1>wanted him to be a priest by the way, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he did a lot. In fact, he was not so

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<v Speaker 1>thrilled about Tesla going into engineering. UM. When he was

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<v Speaker 1>a young boy, Tesla's Tesla's older brother named Dane, died

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<v Speaker 1>in a tragic accident. He actually fell off a horse

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<v Speaker 1>and died. There were some stories that Tesla or Nicola

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla was playing around and spooked the horse that caused Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so actually I've heard I'm sorry, I meant to I

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<v Speaker 1>meant to insert this earlier. But the very first terrific

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<v Speaker 1>tall tale that I heard about Tesla was that he

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<v Speaker 1>was born on a dark and storm and I to

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<v Speaker 1>lightning right right, He was born on the stroke of

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<v Speaker 1>midnight as lightning crashed in the sky, and that one

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<v Speaker 1>person said he would be a boy of storms, and

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<v Speaker 1>his mother said, no, he shall be a man of

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<v Speaker 1>the light. I might be inserting some of my hyper

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<v Speaker 1>bowl in there. Goodness, my gracious. So yeah, And as

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<v Speaker 1>a child they moved around quite a bit as his

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<v Speaker 1>father was finding a church to be pastor in. And

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen seventy, so I remember he's born in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six. By eighteen seventy he moves in with his

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<v Speaker 1>aunt and starts to attend a school that we're a

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<v Speaker 1>teacher named Martin skul Chick, sorry Skolich Sokolich. Uh So,

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<v Speaker 1>Martin Sokolich is teaching there, and he's teaching math and physics,

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<v Speaker 1>and Tesla finds both the professor and the subject matter fascinating,

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<v Speaker 1>and he becomes really focused on math and physics, and

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<v Speaker 1>in fact he's so focused he graduates a year early.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was certainly a man of genius. He possessed

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<v Speaker 1>a genius and an affinity for physics, for math, for

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<v Speaker 1>engineering that far outstripped most of his contemporaries. Oh yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>But then again, this is also the era where we

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<v Speaker 1>start seeing these technologies form and uh, and so it

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<v Speaker 1>was an exciting time if you were interested in physics,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is when we're making lots of big discoveries,

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<v Speaker 1>things that some people say are low hanging fruit, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in retrospect, the idea that there were all these discoveries

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<v Speaker 1>to make. But it's hard to see how we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to advance from this point forward because all the quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote easy things have been discovered. Not that any of

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<v Speaker 1>these things were easy, it's just that now you are

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<v Speaker 1>have to become increasingly specialized in whatever scientific fields you're

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<v Speaker 1>in to clearly understand it. Sure, but while doing this,

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<v Speaker 1>researcher kind of blew my mind. I actually don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a strong history in in electronic background, and and it

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<v Speaker 1>blew my mind that it wasn't until eighteen seventy three

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<v Speaker 1>that that James Clerk Maxwell proved that light is is

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<v Speaker 1>electromagnetic energy. Yeah, yes, this is He's he's growing up

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<v Speaker 1>at a time when uh, these discoveries are being made,

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<v Speaker 1>and that would impact his own work and in fact

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<v Speaker 1>drive him to achieve great things. Also, eighteen seventy three,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the year he contracted cholera. Yeah, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was due to the cholera that he kind of shaped

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of his life. Yeah. Well, yeah, quite a

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<v Speaker 1>few things. Because if you if you've heard about Tesla,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that he uh, he reportedly had a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of obsessive compulsive disorder, that he was a germophobe, that

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<v Speaker 1>he was a clean He was obsessed with being clean

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<v Speaker 1>and having cleaned things around him. He reported in his

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<v Speaker 1>own biography that he had a severe aversion to touching

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<v Speaker 1>other people's hair. That he had to do things if

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<v Speaker 1>if they require repetition, in the repetition of threes, and

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<v Speaker 1>if he did not, then he had to stop and restart. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so he may have developed some of the peculiarities. At

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<v Speaker 1>this time. He was in bed for about nine months,

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<v Speaker 1>nearly died a few times. So I would imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely something that would shape you, whether or not that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there were other issues that are beyond just

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<v Speaker 1>getting sick. There were probably some things that were psychologically

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<v Speaker 1>part of his being from the point where he was born.

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<v Speaker 1>But we don't know to what extent obviously, and um

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what's odd to me, I might as

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<v Speaker 1>well talk about this for right now. So neat freak,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to put it that way. Germophobe doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>like touching people. Loved pigeons, loved them rats with wings,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they are. Well, that that was, that was

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<v Speaker 1>also towards the end of his life that he became

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with him became incredibly obsessed with pigeons. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>just makes me think of that great scene in the

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<v Speaker 1>documentary The Producers, Boydes Filthy Rotten Boydes. I appreciate that

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<v Speaker 1>that your your Yiddish accent there is is better than mine.

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<v Speaker 1>That's excellent. I should also point out that that that's

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen sixty eight version of the documentary The Producers,

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<v Speaker 1>not the musical version starring Nathan Lane. Matthew Broderick actually

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<v Speaker 1>has zero mostel Gene Wilder. I'm getting off track anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Um so yeah, so he's he's definitely got some interesting personality.

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<v Speaker 1>Quirks eighteen seventy four. He starts to move around a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, mostly hiding out from the army because in

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<v Speaker 1>that part of the world, in Austro Austrio, Austro Hungary. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say that. Uh yes we do, thank thank goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't speak into a microphone for a living right. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>But back in that time, in that part of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>army service was required of all young men. There was

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<v Speaker 1>three years mandatory service. And Tesla was not too keen

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<v Speaker 1>on doing that. So he kind of, um, he was dodging,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the best way of putting it. Uh. The next year,

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<v Speaker 1>eight five, he starts to attend the Austrian Polytechnic School

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<v Speaker 1>and he starts off really strong. He's doing really well

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<v Speaker 1>in his classes. He understands the concepts, and unlike some

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<v Speaker 1>other some other visionaries like say Stephen Hawking, he was

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<v Speaker 1>very good in school. Yep, yep. Also, you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>not like Einstein or some of the other famous folks

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<v Speaker 1>who seemed to have trouble in class. Now that that

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<v Speaker 1>was true for about a year, and then about that

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<v Speaker 1>second year, things began to take a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a dip because he began to point out shortcomings or

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<v Speaker 1>what he thought of as shortcomings in his professor's understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of things like electrical engineering and saying things like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you could build a device that does the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>without this one component that you are claiming is absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>necessary for it to work. That furthermore puts off gigantic

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<v Speaker 1>electrical shocks that are actually pretty dangerous, like you could

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<v Speaker 1>do it this way. And then, uh, if you mouth

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<v Speaker 1>off your professors often enough, you might find yourself in

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<v Speaker 1>some academic trouble. And that's kind of what Tesla did.

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<v Speaker 1>He he began to get disillusioned about pursuing studies in

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<v Speaker 1>an academic setting, and after about a little over three years,

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<v Speaker 1>he actually dropped out of the polytechnic school. So he

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<v Speaker 1>moved to Slovenia in eight to work as a draftsman

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<v Speaker 1>for an engineering firm, but by eighteen seventy nine, the

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<v Speaker 1>next year, some some police officials show up and asked

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<v Speaker 1>to see his residents papers, which he did not have,

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<v Speaker 1>so then he was escorted back to his family's home

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<v Speaker 1>because he didn't have a residence permit for Slovenia, And

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<v Speaker 1>that same year his father passes away, uh and Tesla

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<v Speaker 1>starts to a new career as a teacher in the

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<v Speaker 1>same school that he attended as a boy, but realizes

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<v Speaker 1>very quickly, that's not not for him. Yeah, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do that. Um So Then the next year,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighty, he moved to Prague. He tries to attend

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<v Speaker 1>Carl Ferdinand University, but he's unable to understand Greek or check,

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<v Speaker 1>both of which were prerequisites to attend as a student,

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<v Speaker 1>so instead he audits classes. Uh. And he begins to

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<v Speaker 1>work for the Budapest Telephone Exchange and also the Central

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<v Speaker 1>Telegraph Office. Eighteen eighty by the way, it was the

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<v Speaker 1>year that that Thomas Edison unveiled his electric incandescent lamp

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<v Speaker 1>to the public for the first time. Yep, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing to to keep in mind. There are

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<v Speaker 1>some big things happening at the same time that Tesla's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, he hasn't really made a name

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<v Speaker 1>for himself yet. He's been a very enthusiastic student at

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<v Speaker 1>times of his life, and he is certainly interested in

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<v Speaker 1>electronics or really we should say electricity electronics too early,

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<v Speaker 1>but electricity and its applications. Um So, he does that

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of years. In eighteen eighty too, he

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<v Speaker 1>joins the Continental Edison Company and begins to work on

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<v Speaker 1>things like dynamos, which are well, you've heard us talk

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<v Speaker 1>about dynamos and our episodes about electromagnets and motors and

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<v Speaker 1>uh induction in the reverse of that, so we I

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<v Speaker 1>won't go into it. But anyway, he starts to work

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<v Speaker 1>on that. Now this means that he becomes an employee,

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<v Speaker 1>although you know, indirectly and way down the line of Edison.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, he's sitting there working for the company of

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<v Speaker 1>the man who would one day become his greatest rival.

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<v Speaker 1>According to me, they have dragon ball style fights in

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<v Speaker 1>the sky. Yeah, they also would occasionally catch Pokemon, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was only the one that shoots the electricity. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't know which one. Oh, come on, it's Pikachu.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just I was trying to bait Lauren to

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<v Speaker 1>see if I could get it. I actually know that

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<v Speaker 1>you win this time vocal bomb. So at this time

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<v Speaker 1>he also gets the idea for the A C induction motor,

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<v Speaker 1>although Asterisk not necessarily the first person to think about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Supposedly in a vision, well supposedly he had these visions.

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<v Speaker 1>Supposedly he was was very light and audio sensitive, and occasionally,

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<v Speaker 1>upon looking at one object or having a certain idea,

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<v Speaker 1>would would get an extremely strong visual perception of something

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<v Speaker 1>that he had already seen, or or of nothing, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>imaginary unless it was a new invention. But yeah, occasionally

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<v Speaker 1>he would get these flashes that that kind of disturbed

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<v Speaker 1>him a lot, according to his autobiography. Yeah, so essentially

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<v Speaker 1>what would happen is he would be walking through a

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<v Speaker 1>park and look at a beautiful scene, and then suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>an idea would form, fully formed in his head, like

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<v Speaker 1>not not something he had been puzzling about necessarily, It

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<v Speaker 1>might just be hey, boom, here are all the pieces

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<v Speaker 1>and the puzzle is completely it together. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>opened up the box and the puzzles there, as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to you've been trying to fix this problem for years,

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<v Speaker 1>and oh here's the inspiration. And so yeah. Supposedly he

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<v Speaker 1>was walking through the city park in Budapest with a

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<v Speaker 1>friend and saw a beautiful sunset and quoted some poetry

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<v Speaker 1>and then had an idea for for the induction motor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and just drew it in the sand and then kept walking. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether or not that's true, it's hard to say. Because Tesla,

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<v Speaker 1>as it turns out, was something of a showman, a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of an unreliable narrator. I would say unreliable

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<v Speaker 1>narrator is a very kind way of putting it. The

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<v Speaker 1>same sort of thing is true of all the big

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<v Speaker 1>names at this time, because they were the rock stars

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<v Speaker 1>of that of that era. So Edison, same sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Edison was a master at at pr you know, beyond

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<v Speaker 1>beyond being the head of a very successful research and

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<v Speaker 1>development firm. He was very good at presenting his ideas

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<v Speaker 1>to a public and explaining why they were the best ideas,

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<v Speaker 1>even if they weren't the best ideas. Tesla was. He

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<v Speaker 1>was no slouch in that department either. There are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people who will paint Tesla as being the

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<v Speaker 1>the dedicated genius who is working for the betterment of

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<v Speaker 1>all mankind but doesn't ever look to get gain glory

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<v Speaker 1>in the process. That's not entirely accurate. Now, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>not If you've ever seen any of the photographs that

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<v Speaker 1>that he took around his equipment, I would say that

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<v Speaker 1>those are not the mark of someone who is not

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<v Speaker 1>a showman. I saw this one photograph. He looked just

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<v Speaker 1>like David Bowie. Um might be mixing that up with

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<v Speaker 1>a documentary though, So then the the in in uh

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<v Speaker 1>in A ten two. This whole time where he's making

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<v Speaker 1>he's working for Edison. He's got this idea for the

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<v Speaker 1>A C induction motor. He also is reportedly not paid

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<v Speaker 1>some money for the work he's doing for Edison Company,

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<v Speaker 1>at least not not all of it. Like there's money

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<v Speaker 1>due to him that's not being paid. And this this

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<v Speaker 1>is partly what lays the groundwork for this whole idea

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<v Speaker 1>of the heated rivalry between Edison and Tesla. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it is money that's withheld from Tesla that was

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<v Speaker 1>promised to him. I mean, and yeah, and this this

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<v Speaker 1>is when he was very he was what twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, and in Paris, and so he was

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<v Speaker 1>he was really distantly connected from to Edison at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But apparently grudge started, right you use this, If you

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<v Speaker 1>use this and just say like this is indicative of

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<v Speaker 1>how Edison treats people, it would apparently become company policy

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<v Speaker 1>not to pay people for their work. That's what that's

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<v Speaker 1>what suggested of this. It also becomes you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>common thread in Tesla's life of getting getting cheated out

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<v Speaker 1>of things that were owed him, which makes you wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if it happens so frequently. Why is that? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>all due to Was it just that he only worked

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<v Speaker 1>with corrupt individuals and companies, or was it that there

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<v Speaker 1>was something else going on here? Besides that part of

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<v Speaker 1>the story, I have no doubt that Tesla was really

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<v Speaker 1>cheated out of many of the things he deserved. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure that he was cheated out of everything that

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<v Speaker 1>is attributed as beingthing he deserved. Um, but then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into that again. Yeo, he makes the big move

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<v Speaker 1>from Europe to America. He he had basically no money

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. From what I understand, well, he definitely

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<v Speaker 1>had no money by the time he got there. Um. Yeah,

0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:16.439
<v Speaker 1>it took a little longer for him to get there

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<v Speaker 1>than he had anticipated. According to one timeline I read

0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:22.760
<v Speaker 1>the ship he was on. This is just Tesla's luck, right,

0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.760
<v Speaker 1>The ship he was on had a mutiny aboard the ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness. I did not read about this, and

0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:34.560
<v Speaker 1>supposedly Tesla himself was nearly thrown overboard, probably for being

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<v Speaker 1>a witch. That that last part is just me guessing.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have any reason. I didn't have. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no reason given as to why Tesla would have been

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<v Speaker 1>thrown overboard, so I'm just inventing one. But no, apparently

0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.040
<v Speaker 1>the ship he was on had a mutiny aboard it.

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<v Speaker 1>I ended up getting to New York way later than

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<v Speaker 1>when he expected, and, according to some reports, had four

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<v Speaker 1>cents in his pocket. Now, also, depending upon whom you asked,

0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:03.480
<v Speaker 1>he either immediately went to work for Edison, as in

0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:07.719
<v Speaker 1>got off the boat, filed and went into the office,

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<v Speaker 1>or he started the next day. That seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>the two stories. Either way, I think that's pretty remarkable.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and uh. And he works for Edison and he's

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<v Speaker 1>helping them with their systems. Uh. Supposedly again, he started

0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:25.399
<v Speaker 1>to suggest to Edison that they switched to an alternating

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<v Speaker 1>current model as opposed to direct current, and Ederson was

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<v Speaker 1>very much against that idea. So then in eighteen five,

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla forms the Tesla Electric Light Company. An investor group

0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:39.680
<v Speaker 1>actually asks him if he will work on an ARC

0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:42.399
<v Speaker 1>lighting system, and he agrees to do it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>is later forced out of his own company when nothing

0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:46.920
<v Speaker 1>to show for it. Was Was that all? I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Because he started the company because he had been he

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<v Speaker 1>had quit Edison's correct. Yeah, Essentially, that same year, he

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<v Speaker 1>resigns from the Edison Company, and some say the reason

0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:58.760
<v Speaker 1>he did that was because, again, here's another story of

0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Tesla getting cheated. That Edison had promised Tesla a princely

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<v Speaker 1>some fifty thou dollars for a particular project, and when

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla completed the project again supposedly with flying colors and

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<v Speaker 1>beyond all expectations, Edison then said, ha, ha, you don't

0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:19.199
<v Speaker 1>understand American humor. I'm not giving you any money, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Tesla resigns, even though Edison supposedly at that point

0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:26.399
<v Speaker 1>offered an enormous raise to keep Tesla there. This makes

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<v Speaker 1>Edison look like the biggest jerk on the face of

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<v Speaker 1>the planet. I mean, I can't imagine my boss coming

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<v Speaker 1>up to me and saying, hey, you know when I

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<v Speaker 1>told you were going to make fifty dollars if you

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<v Speaker 1>did this thing, and then you did that thing, you

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<v Speaker 1>did it really well. Well, you're not gonna get any money.

0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:40.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh you want to leave, I'll raise your salary. That

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<v Speaker 1>just like what kind of crazy person does that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't it doesn't sound I mean, you know it

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<v Speaker 1>could I start. I never met Edison, didn't did you

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<v Speaker 1>mean him? You're very old? Uh? Tesla then claimed that

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<v Speaker 1>he spent the next year making money by digging ditches.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, a great, great story if you're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>his life in the terms of like a tragic tale.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, here you have this genius of super genius,

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<v Speaker 1>the man who will one day light up the United

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<v Speaker 1>States with his alternating current power grid, making money scraping

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<v Speaker 1>by by digging ditches. Yeah. Again, a lot of this

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<v Speaker 1>comes from Tesla himself, and whether or not all of

0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:26.359
<v Speaker 1>it is true, it remains part of myth. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't doubt that. I don't doubt there were some

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<v Speaker 1>bad business dealings. I'm sure that was the case, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't doubt he had some hard times and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he did make his living for a full year being

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<v Speaker 1>you know, digging ditches and that was the only thing

0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:43.400
<v Speaker 1>he could do. But it sounds more, it sounds like melodrama.

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<v Speaker 1>But sometimes like works like that, sometimes that's the Sometimes

0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:52.080
<v Speaker 1>that's the truth. Stranger things. But anyway, h then by

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<v Speaker 1>by e eight seven, so you know A six digging ditches,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't need to go into as that's it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, meanwhile, in eighteen eighties, actually it's interesting Westinghouse

0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Electric had developed a transformer for commercial use. Yeah, so

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:08.239
<v Speaker 1>that's another thing we should mention is that, uh, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons Tesla was really pushing for this alternating

0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:14.040
<v Speaker 1>current thing with Edison is that back in Europe, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what they were using a C was, That's that's the

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<v Speaker 1>route they took. They didn't they didn't go down the

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<v Speaker 1>direct current route at all. They went with alternating current.

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<v Speaker 1>And that becomes important when we start talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>myths of of Tesla as well. In a little bit, right, Yeah,

0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:30.040
<v Speaker 1>the the U s so embroiled in d C current.

0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:33.200
<v Speaker 1>The name the Brooklyn Dodgers actually comes because they were

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<v Speaker 1>using direct current power lines that were kind of haphazardly

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:38.760
<v Speaker 1>strung across the city and and Brooklyn Nights had to

0:23:39.040 --> 0:23:41.480
<v Speaker 1>dodge these lines so often that their team was thus

0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:45.320
<v Speaker 1>named the Brooklyn Dodging, whereas the New York Giants were

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<v Speaker 1>called that because they came from a race of mythical

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<v Speaker 1>creatures that lived up Giant. Okay, now, I just wanted

0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:53.520
<v Speaker 1>to show off that I knew something too, but I

0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:58.719
<v Speaker 1>don't really know anything. After the ditch digging has finished,

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Tesla begins to work within Besters again, and he establishes

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<v Speaker 1>a lab at eighty nine Liberty Street in New York

0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:07.640
<v Speaker 1>and then a few blocks away from Medicine's. Yeah. Yeah,

0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:10.040
<v Speaker 1>And the next year he starts to talk about a

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<v Speaker 1>C motors and transformers for the American Institute of Electrical

0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Engineers now known as the Triple E, or as I

0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:22.760
<v Speaker 1>always prefer to call them. I that once for all

0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:25.720
<v Speaker 1>you engineers out there. Uh. And he also agrees to

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 1>start selling patents to George Westinghouse. So even though you know, Lauren,

0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:32.840
<v Speaker 1>like Lauren was saying, in eighteen eighty six, you already

0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:36.119
<v Speaker 1>had Westinghouse working on transformers and alternating current. That was

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:39.760
<v Speaker 1>before Tesla had even started to work for Westinghouse. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's something to keep in mind as well. So

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighty nine he establishes a new lab on Grand

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<v Speaker 1>Street in New York. There's a lot of labs. He

0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:50.680
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of labs spread out throughout New York.

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<v Speaker 1>He also lived in hotels mostly, did he even then? Yeah,

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:57.159
<v Speaker 1>mostly towards the end of his life, but yeah, early

0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 1>on he was living in a lot of hotels as well.

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I think he also joked about about how is his hours,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when he was working in Edison's lab. We're from

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<v Speaker 1>like ten in the morning until five thirty am the

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<v Speaker 1>next day, and and so that a lot of his

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:10.440
<v Speaker 1>sleeping A wasn't really sleeping, and B was probably under

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:14.080
<v Speaker 1>his desk, right right, I can identify with that. Uh

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:18.000
<v Speaker 1>In he begins to experiment with wireless power in florest

0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:21.359
<v Speaker 1>and neon lighting, as well as X rays, although at

0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:23.879
<v Speaker 1>the time he isn't sure exactly what they are. He

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:29.399
<v Speaker 1>was shadow pictures. Yeah, this was before Wilhelm Laurentin had

0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:32.120
<v Speaker 1>really established what X rays were and what they could do.

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:36.159
<v Speaker 1>So Tesla was one of the people who was observing

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:39.879
<v Speaker 1>the phenomena of X rays early early on. Yeah, there

0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:41.239
<v Speaker 1>are a few other people at the time who were

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:43.640
<v Speaker 1>working with them, but yeah, yeah, yeah, in fact, that'll

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:47.879
<v Speaker 1>go into the myths as well. But then he becomes

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 1>an Americans and also I believe patented the Tesla coil.

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:56.920
<v Speaker 1>There you go an interesting thing in his mother passes away.

0:25:57.560 --> 0:25:59.840
<v Speaker 1>That same year, he becomes the vice president of the

0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:03.919
<v Speaker 1>AI Triple E, which is even it's a I E.

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess that is how I would say that. And

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:10.520
<v Speaker 1>he becomes famous worldwide for his lectures on alternating current

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:13.359
<v Speaker 1>So at this point he's on the lecture circuit. I

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:16.239
<v Speaker 1>mean he's he's going from city to city. You know,

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 1>he stopped in places like Chicago and New York, London, Paris.

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 1>So he becomes again, like I said, like a rock star.

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:28.919
<v Speaker 1>He's known for these lectures, and it sounds weird for

0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 1>us to say that that he's like a rock star.

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 1>But this was an era where these these thinkers were

0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:39.760
<v Speaker 1>really pushing the development of technology to a point where

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:43.160
<v Speaker 1>everyone was sure that, you know, okay, we're five years

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:46.360
<v Speaker 1>away from the incredible future. And in many ways they

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:48.679
<v Speaker 1>were right. It's just that their view of what the

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>incredible future would be ended up being a lot different

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 1>from what it really was. But it was an era

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 1>of rapid development, so these guys were considered to be

0:26:57.040 --> 0:27:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the people pushing that rapid development is really exciting. Yeah,

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 1>and think things like when the Chicago World Fair was

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 1>that was that? Want to say? Yeah? That was that

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>was famous because there was a whole Edison Tesla story

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>there about who is going to provide power? Right, and

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 1>it was really Edison versus H. Westinghouse. Yeah, but I

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 1>mean Westinghouse back by Tesla. Sure, sure, yeah. West Westinghouse

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 1>was using technology that Tesla had patented and and systems

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 1>that Tesla worked on, but it was not truly Tesla

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>versus Edison. That's that's kind of how I think. Even

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 1>in a previous episode of Tech Stuff, we sort of

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:36.159
<v Speaker 1>talked about it in those terms, because that's sort of

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 1>the romantic way of doing it, right as the idea

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 1>of these two geniuses facing off against each other and

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>who will win and alternating current one out in that one.

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>So it was really Westinghouse that one, all right, right, Yeah,

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:49.359
<v Speaker 1>The story goes that there was a there was a

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:53.480
<v Speaker 1>business deal the government was looking to contract either either

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Westinghouses Company or Edison's company to power the World's Fair

0:27:56.840 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 1>and and Westinghouse one out because it was cheaper. Yep. Yeah,

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>and then and when and yeah, and when they threw

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:05.440
<v Speaker 1>when President grawf for Cleveland, I think it was through

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 1>that switch and which like a hundred hundred thousand bulbs

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 1>lit up all at the same time, and people were like, oh, oh,

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:15.119
<v Speaker 1>this is a thing trivia for you folks out there

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:17.880
<v Speaker 1>who don't know your history. Grover Cleveland was the only

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:21.639
<v Speaker 1>president to serve two non consecutive terms as president. He

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>was president, then he wasn't president. Then he was president again. Yes,

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>he also liked the song Funky called Medina eighteen five.

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 1>So then one of the buildings that heused, one of

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Tesla's labs, caught fire in eight and his lab burned down,

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 1>and the fire destroyed what was estimated to be about

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand dollars worth of equipment. And and he had

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>no insurance. Yeah, and fifty that's it's a lot of

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 1>money today. It was a huge amount of money in

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 1>um And and at the time he was experimenting with

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 1>with radios. Yeah, and and supposedly, according to him, was

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>ready to transmit a signal fifty miles out to West Point,

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>New York. Yeah. So that this is during if you've

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 1>listened to the Old Tech Stuff episode about who invented

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 1>the radio, there's a lot about Tesla and Marconi. And

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>there there's a whole story there too about how Marconi,

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 1>like Tesla, got a patent for for the radio. Then

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Marconi applied for a patent, Then the patent office overturned

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Tesla's patent, gave Marconi the patent, and then later on

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>overturned it again and gave it back to Tesla. And

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 1>later on is in like the nineteen seventies after Tesla

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>was dead long after. Um. Yeah, there's a whole story,

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 1>and and there's there's arguments there too, because again, the

0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 1>invention of any sort of technology requires that you talk

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 1>about so many different people who who contributed to the

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 1>discoveries that led to the possibility of something existing that

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 1>it's impossible to actually point at one person and say

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 1>this person invented radio. But both Marconi and Tesla were

0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:00.959
<v Speaker 1>working on it, and uh, and there's argument over who

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 1>should have real credit there. Uh, but go listen to

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 1>our episode about who invented the radio if you want

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>to hear more about that, because I think that that

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 1>that that argument is so long and detailed that it's

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 1>hard to sum up in an episode just about Tesla. Yeah. Yeah,

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 1>though it's yeah, certainly another another one of those points

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:20.600
<v Speaker 1>that people like to bring up in terms of he

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 1>was so downtrodden. Yeah, it's a good another point. Yeah,

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>and and that's a more firm one that Yeah, he

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 1>absolutely lost that fight and lost probably a lot of

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 1>money in fame. I think. Uh, Marconi won the New

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Belt Prize all kinds of fun. Was not happy about that. Excited. Yeah,

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 1>he demonstrated a wirelessly controlled model boat, so essentially a

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 1>an RC boat at the Electrical Exposition in Madison Square

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Garden where years later, Highlanders would fight it out to

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 1>determine who would win the prize, and Queen would sing

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Princess of the Universe in the background. I didn't I

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't really like that documentary. WHOA, Okay, you know what,

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna take a little break here. Let's let's take

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>a take a moment to thank our sponsor, and now

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 1>back to our show. Alright, getting back into Tesla's life.

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 1>In moves to Colorado to perform some experiments with wireless power.

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 1>And now this is where one of the big myths

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:26.959
<v Speaker 1>about Tesla comes up. This idea that he wanted to

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>build this huge tower that would tap into the this

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 1>this resonant frequency that exists around the world, and that

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:40.239
<v Speaker 1>you could transmit power wirelessly across miles of space. Um.

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>He claimed that he had another one of those visions

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 1>that let him understand the geoelectrical phenomenon he called terrest

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>real stationary waves, an idea about tapping into the Earth

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>itself as a conductor. Okay, sounds interesting, Yeah, and it's

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 1>not that it's not that everything was that he said

0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 1>was crazy or it was just to be able to

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>actually use this in a way that would allow you

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>to transmit power reliably safely without losing power over distance

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>or zapping and killing everybody. Uh is something we haven't

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:15.840
<v Speaker 1>solved yet, And there are a lot of people who

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:18.959
<v Speaker 1>say that all of his work would have proven if

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 1>if it's still existed. Get into more about more destruction

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 1>of his work and where it all when it went to.

0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 1>But then if it's still existed, it would prove that

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>this sort of thing is possible, and it's only the

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 1>energy companies that are keeping it down because they stand

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 1>to lose so much if this If this information got out,

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm hesitant to agree to anything like that because it

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>suggests that no one but Tesla could have ever come

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>up with this, and therefore the idea is lost forever.

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 1>When I would argue, we have people who are far

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>more informed about electrical engineering than Tesla was, even though

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>he was a brilliant man, forward thinking, and maybe let's

0:32:56.760 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 1>have you know, perhaps the people these days are not

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 1>vision nary the way that he was. But yeah, maybe

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's it. Maybe they just need to take a

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>walk in the park and look at the sunset, think

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 1>about some poetry that would help. I guess, you know, hey,

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 1>far be it from me to downplay the importance of

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 1>poetry in the world. I certainly think it's important being

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 1>English lit major. Uh. In nineteen o one, well, all right,

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>so so he starts to think really about wireless power

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 1>and the phenomena that it would be, Like what what

0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>would go into making this and how it would change

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 1>the world. And he really was thinking it was an

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 1>interesting idea. So in nineteen o one, with funding from

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 1>various sources, including people like JP Morgan, he starts to

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 1>build the Warden Cliff Tower. And this is at a

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>long island sound and uh, this is um this thing

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 1>is supposed to be a wireless power transmitting station essentially,

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 1>and within nineteen o three starts to test it, even

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 1>though the tower itself is not completed at that point.

0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 1>And this this was this was a tower that that

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 1>again reached deep into the ground, took d of tap

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>into this this terrestrial uh wave stationary way. I actually

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 1>have a really great quote from Tesla. If I had

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 1>made out excellent in the system that I've invented, it

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 1>is necessary for the machine to get a grip on

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the earth. Otherwise it cannot shake the earth. It has

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 1>to have a grip so that the whole of this

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 1>globe can quiver. Yeah, if you also remember the story

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:24.239
<v Speaker 1>about Tesla putting an oscillating motor onto a building and

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 1>then nearly shaking it to its foundation, that kind of

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 1>dates from the same sort of concept. And the Earth

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 1>is still here, by the way, So that's kind of

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 1>a spoiler alert to how this story plays out. MythBusters

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 1>actually actually cracked that one in the episode back in

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>A two six, I think they showed. They showed that

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 1>it could, like a small repetitive motion could cause a

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:49.920
<v Speaker 1>bridge to start to shake a little enough to notice

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 1>a couple couple hundred feet away, right, but not necessarily

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 1>enough to to make it crumble into pieces. Um, but anyway,

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 1>we all earthquake. Warncliffe Tower becomes an important part of

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Tesla's life. He was one of these things that he

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 1>really thought that that the terrestrial stationary waves was the

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>uh discovery of his life. That was the most important

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 1>out of everything that he had worked with with alternating current,

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 1>with transformers, with all these other technologies, those paled in

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:19.400
<v Speaker 1>comparison to this one and so Warncliffe Tower was very

0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 1>important to him. Unfortunately, Uh, there weren't. He didn't have

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot to show for it. And also he

0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 1>was running up the electric bill. Yeah yeah, and Morgan

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:32.759
<v Speaker 1>was getting pretty sick of it. Meanwhile across the ocean, Um,

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:36.359
<v Speaker 1>Marconi had signaled the letter as across the Atlantic. Then

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 1>that didn't make Tesla happy. And and I mean and

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and you know Marconi was such a such a newspaper darling.

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah he was again and yet another person who was

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 1>very good at catering to the media to get a

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 1>message across. So uh, you know, not unusual at this time.

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:55.799
<v Speaker 1>So in nineteen o four, the Colorado Lab is torn

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>down due to excessive use of electricity and the building

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 1>materials are sold for scrap to pay for the cost couch.

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>And in nineteen o six, like you said, JP, Morgan,

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 1>who had been an investor withdraws and Tesla has to

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 1>end up laying off a lot of employees over at

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Warncliff Tower. Uh, We're gonna skip ahead a few years

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:16.239
<v Speaker 1>because this is essentially where he's working on this Warncliff

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Tower experiment, which ends up draining a lot of his

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:24.879
<v Speaker 1>energy literally and resources, and without a lot to show

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:27.240
<v Speaker 1>for it. Um the next day, I have his nineteen

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>eleven when he started working with steam turbines and electricity production. Uh.

0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 1>He was. This was a big development. It was very

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:39.879
<v Speaker 1>important in the whole uh part of generating electricity for

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>a growing need in America because at this point you're

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:46.800
<v Speaker 1>starting to see communities get wired for electricity and beyond

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 1>just the narrow band in the Northeast that had it,

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 1>So it was important to find different ways of generating it,

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 1>beyond firing from coal plants. She wanted to find something

0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 1>that was sustainable even at that time, and in ninetelve

0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:04.799
<v Speaker 1>Tesla suffered another setback, although not one nearly as large

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 1>as Lady Astor. John Jacob Astor was one of Tesla's

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:15.839
<v Speaker 1>most wealthy and enthusiastic investors, stopped investing in Tesla's work

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 1>because he stopped breathing. He was at board a little

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:22.279
<v Speaker 1>boat called the Titanic. Oh, I've heard of that one.

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I think I saw a documentary about it one. Yeah,

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:28.880
<v Speaker 1>his heart will go on, but his investment payments stopped. Yeah.

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 1>He Um. He went down with the boat. He did

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:35.919
<v Speaker 1>get Lady Astor on a lifeboat, so he made sure

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:39.720
<v Speaker 1>his wife was safe, and he stayed behind to wait

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>for his turn to get on a lifeboat, but tragically

0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:45.479
<v Speaker 1>was not able to do that and he did die,

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 1>and with that Tesla lost one of his most significant

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>sources of investment money. So it was another financial setback

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:57.440
<v Speaker 1>for Tesla. Um. I don't think he could blame that

0:37:57.440 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 1>one on Edison. No, No, maybe Mark Coni, because we're

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 1>talking about the use of radios on the Titanic, But

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 1>then that was more of a personnel thing than a

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 1>technology thing. A nineteen fifteen, Tesla and Edison are both

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 1>listed as being uh considered for a Nobel Prize and

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:23.400
<v Speaker 1>that they would be co recipients of the Nobel Prize.

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:27.920
<v Speaker 1>When the Nobel Prizes are announced, the prize goes to

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:33.319
<v Speaker 1>two people. That would be William Henry Bragg and his son.

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Now the Nobel Committee admitted that Edison and Tesla were

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 1>under consideration for the Nobel Prize, but they did not

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 1>say any more than that. What has come up since

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 1>then as the rumor, which is gospel in some corners

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:49.880
<v Speaker 1>of the Internet, that the reason why Tesla and Edison

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:53.280
<v Speaker 1>did not receive the Nobel Prize together is because they'd

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 1>rather be caught dead than to share a prize with

0:38:57.000 --> 0:39:00.239
<v Speaker 1>the other man. That's a that's a good myth that

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 1>the rivalry was so great that they would both refuse

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 1>a Nobel prize rather than have to share it with

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 1>the other That's pretty amazing. And it may be true

0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:11.239
<v Speaker 1>that when I say rumor, I don't mean that it's

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:13.759
<v Speaker 1>fake or false or a lie. I just mean that

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 1>we don't know for sure. Other people probably do, but

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't. Nineteen sixteen, Tesla declares bankruptcy. He did not

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 1>pasco or collect two hundred dollars y. It was just

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 1>not a good year for him. Uh. In nineteen seventeen,

0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 1>he ended up proposing what would depending upon whom you ask,

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay people, some people will say in nineteen seventeen, Tesla

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:41.359
<v Speaker 1>predicted radar radar. Yeah, that he was the guy who

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>came up with radar, but the government turned him down.

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:48.480
<v Speaker 1>The Navy board said that they would not invest in

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 1>such a technology. By the way, the person from private

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 1>industry who was on the Navy board, well he was

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:01.239
<v Speaker 1>from from what I understand about the story, Tesla had

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:06.040
<v Speaker 1>proposed this, this way of finding ships underwater. Yeah, that's

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 1>the problem, right, So the more you look into it,

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:10.479
<v Speaker 1>the more you realize it's not radar he's talking about,

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 1>not in the sense that we use it today. Well,

0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:14.440
<v Speaker 1>he he was talking about radar, but it was not

0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:17.080
<v Speaker 1>really the best system for finding ships underwater. And so

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:20.400
<v Speaker 1>therefore when the government from the Navy didn't didn't really

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 1>give him the go ahead, it wasn't because radar is

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:25.840
<v Speaker 1>dumb or the Tesla's demo was because it wasn't the

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 1>right technology for the application. What Tesla did not take

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 1>into account was he he wanted to use tightly controlled

0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 1>electric beams of energy to zap them into the water

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 1>to reflect off the surfaces of submarines, detect that those

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:43.360
<v Speaker 1>reflections and the information would be displayed back in a

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:46.520
<v Speaker 1>fluorescent display, which sounds great, except for the problem is

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:49.760
<v Speaker 1>that these beams would attenuate underwater, and so you would

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 1>not get accurate representations of what you were looking at.

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't you couldn't be sure that you know, you

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:58.879
<v Speaker 1>could be pointing it directly at a submarine and miss

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:01.920
<v Speaker 1>it because of this attenuate Asian problem. And so it

0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 1>just isn't practical for the use that Tesla was suggesting it.

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 1>And uh, and so that shows that Tesla had a

0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 1>misunderstanding either of the physics of water or the technology itself.

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Either way, it wasn't truly radar. It's not exactly the

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:19.040
<v Speaker 1>same thing that radar is, and it was not being

0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 1>used in the way that radar ultimately would be used.

0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 1>So while some people claim that he invented radar as

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 1>being a little generous, nineteen, we just busted a myth,

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:32.440
<v Speaker 1>and I hadn't I apologize because I haven't gotten to

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 1>that section yet. But that's okay, that's one less for

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:36.840
<v Speaker 1>us to worry about when we get there in nineteen

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 1>thirty four. Actually, if if we can, if we can

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:43.800
<v Speaker 1>step back, just to short, let's please in In nineteen nineteen,

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:48.680
<v Speaker 1>he published an autobiography called My Inventions Uh that was

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 1>published in six parts in the Electrical Experiment or magazine.

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 1>And this is important because it is one of the

0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 1>main sources of information about Tesla's life, which is why

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 1>you have to take everything with a grain of salt,

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 1>because he was a bit of a self promoter. So

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:07.400
<v Speaker 1>there's not I'm not saying that Tesla was lying in

0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 1>his autobiography. What I'm saying is you just have to

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:12.720
<v Speaker 1>take into consideration the possibility that he may have exaggerated

0:42:12.760 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 1>some facts, not that he was purposefully trying to mislead people,

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 1>but that when you become a self promoter, that that

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 1>can happen. Even if you don't mean it to happen,

0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 1>it can happen, Which is kind of crazy that you're

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 1>just you know, in your mind, you're like, this is

0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:29.760
<v Speaker 1>totally how it happened, and then anyone else is like, dude,

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I was there, and that totally is not how it happened. Um, Jonathan,

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:37.959
<v Speaker 1>You've never beheaded anyone in the cold blood of a fight.

0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:41.319
<v Speaker 1>On the cold blood of a fight, and The New

0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:44.560
<v Speaker 1>York Times published as an article about Tesla's death, ray,

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah this was. Tesla said that he had come up

0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 1>with an idea that would allow governments to build a

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 1>device capable of emitting a beam of energy that could

0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 1>bring down a fleet of him thousand enemy planes at

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 1>a distance of two hundred fifty miles, and that his

0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 1>idea was that by outfitting pretty much everybody with one

0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:11.719
<v Speaker 1>of these, you would have that mutually assured destruction that

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:14.840
<v Speaker 1>makes peace possible. He actually called it a piece beam

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 1>from what I understand, Yeah, I said that would really

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 1>end war because how could you have war If you

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:23.279
<v Speaker 1>can't fly over another country without worrying about your entire

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 1>fleet being destroyed, then obviously war is off the table.

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:30.759
<v Speaker 1>That was kind of his his somewhat naive plan. And

0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 1>whether or not this thing would ever work is another

0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:38.440
<v Speaker 1>interesting question, or if there ever was anything beyond just

0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:41.000
<v Speaker 1>this idea that hey, maybe one day I could build

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:44.799
<v Speaker 1>something that does this. Uh, that's another you know, that's

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 1>another one of those things. It's a myth, right. Uh.

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 1>He decided to go feed the pigeons in the park,

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:54.640
<v Speaker 1>which was a bad decision to make that particular day,

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 1>as as he was crossing the street, he was struck

0:43:57.640 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 1>by a cab. Then to in upon which report you read,

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 1>he flew thirty five to forty ft in the air

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:08.400
<v Speaker 1>and landed and was perfectly unharmed except a little bruised

0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 1>or he had broken several ribs. It all depends on

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 1>which person you're asking. Tesla said, damn, I'm all right.

0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Other people like dude, he was messed up. He was

0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:22.000
<v Speaker 1>crying about his pigeons. It was ugly. He he had

0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:24.279
<v Speaker 1>he had at this point become a little bit destitute.

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Um he due to all of these various financial troubles

0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:31.480
<v Speaker 1>over the years, and and basic misspending. I think head, yeah, didn't. Yeah,

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 1>there were a lot of hotels that were suing him

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:37.759
<v Speaker 1>because he had lived inside the hotel for years and

0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:40.880
<v Speaker 1>years and owed them thousands of dollars, and then he

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:43.319
<v Speaker 1>would relocate to a different hotel, and you think, like,

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:46.800
<v Speaker 1>why would another hotel even trust him? He was Tesla Again,

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:50.000
<v Speaker 1>this is a rock star guy, and it elevates the

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 1>status of your hotel that he's staying there. But you

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 1>can only have Lindsay Lohan in your hotel for so

0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:59.920
<v Speaker 1>long before you're like, seriously, could you please stop making

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:03.160
<v Speaker 1>holes in the growing TVs out the window? Guys, I

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:05.440
<v Speaker 1>am sitting across from the from the person who had

0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 1>just compared Nicola Tesla to Lindsay Lohan. I think it's

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:11.799
<v Speaker 1>an apt comparison. Look, Lindsay Lohan hasn't reached the age

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Tesla was at when he started to really uh contribute

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:17.879
<v Speaker 1>to humanity. So I think we owe her a year

0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 1>or two. I'm just saying that if anyone actually figures

0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:22.880
<v Speaker 1>out Tesla's particle beam and aims it at the HW

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:25.000
<v Speaker 1>office is and just just just just let me know

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:29.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm perfectly willing to give you Jonathan g a syncritis coordinates.

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Please keep in mind that stuff you missed in history class,

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:34.880
<v Speaker 1>and stuff mom never told you sit really near me.

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:39.480
<v Speaker 1>So if you love those shows, keep your beam particle

0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:43.759
<v Speaker 1>pointed somewhere else. That's not cool. We'll be right back

0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:48.880
<v Speaker 1>to talk more about Nicola Tesla, an eccentric inventor and

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:52.040
<v Speaker 1>lover of alternating current in just a moment after this

0:45:52.120 --> 0:46:03.319
<v Speaker 1>quick break. January seven three was a bad day for

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Tesla because that's the day he passed on. He was

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:10.439
<v Speaker 1>eighty six years old. Uh and two days later, all

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:14.280
<v Speaker 1>of his papers and a state was seized by the government.

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Well some some stories say that his nephew showed up

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 1>the morning after he passed away, and that his body

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:21.319
<v Speaker 1>had already been removed, and that the nephew noticed that

0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:23.880
<v Speaker 1>it seemed like some of his papers were missing. Yeah,

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 1>this is where one of those stories pops up. In fact,

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 1>now that we've had Tesla shuffle off the mortal and

0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Tesla coil, thank you, I've been waiting to use that one,

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:36.680
<v Speaker 1>we can talk a little bit about this this idea.

0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:38.120
<v Speaker 1>So there are a lot of rumors out there. One

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 1>of the big rumors is that the FBI seized all

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 1>of Tesla's papers and did so in an effort to

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:50.839
<v Speaker 1>to use them for various nefarious purposes for the United

0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:55.720
<v Speaker 1>States government. Now keep in mind this is nte. World

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:59.480
<v Speaker 1>War two is a thing, and so there is a

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:04.080
<v Speaker 1>genuine concerned that information that has scientific significance could fall

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:09.359
<v Speaker 1>into the hands of other nations and give give other

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:13.320
<v Speaker 1>other nations a lot of advantages over the United States.

0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:16.239
<v Speaker 1>And so it was very important to guard whatever advantages

0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:18.880
<v Speaker 1>you had against that absolutely. And also I mean remember

0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:22.040
<v Speaker 1>that that Tesla was a Serbian American um as as such,

0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:26.360
<v Speaker 1>the from from from what we can discern, of fact,

0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:29.320
<v Speaker 1>it was actually the Department of Justice Alien Property Custodian

0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Office that temporarily seized his papers, right, so it was

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:34.640
<v Speaker 1>not the FBI. It was a Department of Justice and

0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:37.040
<v Speaker 1>the FBI. Still they've got like a like a top

0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 1>ten myths on on the internet. Number ten. Number ten

0:47:40.280 --> 0:47:43.359
<v Speaker 1>is is that we took Tesla's papers like guys, Like guys,

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:46.400
<v Speaker 1>we didn't. We did for real, Zo, we didn't grab

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:49.280
<v Speaker 1>those And actually I looked into it and it wouldn't

0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:52.279
<v Speaker 1>be until well, you know, if you read most of

0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the stories. It's like the FBI took the papers and

0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:56.120
<v Speaker 1>they never released them, and we want, we demand that

0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:58.600
<v Speaker 1>these papers be released. Guys. It was the Department of

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Justice number one and number two in nineteen fifty two

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:04.640
<v Speaker 1>they sent the papers to uh to Kasanovich, his nephew,

0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:07.680
<v Speaker 1>and that is that is nine years later. Yeah, alright,

0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:10.319
<v Speaker 1>granted nine years. Like we're a talking about time during

0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 1>not just the World War two with the Red Scared

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:16.879
<v Speaker 1>as well, So I mean not that that justifies suppressing information. Also,

0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:19.680
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about the government, So it may very well

0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:24.120
<v Speaker 1>be that there wasn't any intentional um slowness on the

0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:27.959
<v Speaker 1>part of the government. That's just the way the government works.

0:48:28.080 --> 0:48:30.279
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, I honestly don't know. What I

0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:32.480
<v Speaker 1>do know is they did release the estate and the

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:35.879
<v Speaker 1>papers to Yugoslavia, to to his nephew. That they wound

0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:39.120
<v Speaker 1>up in a in a museum. So if you wanted,

0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:41.319
<v Speaker 1>if you're one of the people demanding that there's a

0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Tesla museum, good news there is. You just have to

0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:47.319
<v Speaker 1>go to Europe to see it. Also, supposedly after World

0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 1>War two was over, copies of his papers were sent

0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:53.080
<v Speaker 1>out to one of the Air Force spaces and Project

0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:56.279
<v Speaker 1>Nick was a thing that was heavily funded, and then

0:48:56.320 --> 0:48:58.600
<v Speaker 1>the papers disappeared, never to be seen again. Yeah, their

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:01.440
<v Speaker 1>love conspiracy theories here, they're there was one one person

0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:03.239
<v Speaker 1>posted on Facebook when I mentioned that we were going

0:49:03.280 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 1>to be covering Tesla today, So are you going to

0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:07.200
<v Speaker 1>talk about how they used a lot of his work

0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:09.279
<v Speaker 1>in the developments of stuff in Area fifty one? And

0:49:09.280 --> 0:49:11.520
<v Speaker 1>the answer to that is no, because there's no real

0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:14.600
<v Speaker 1>documentation of that. There's actually quite a bit of information

0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:16.640
<v Speaker 1>about what went on at Area fifty one. It's stuff

0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:20.319
<v Speaker 1>that was top secret at the time. But um, we'll

0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 1>have to do an episode all about Area fifty one

0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:24.720
<v Speaker 1>sometime in the future, just because it's a fascinating topic.

0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:27.880
<v Speaker 1>But it's all about, you know, developing things like stealth

0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:33.200
<v Speaker 1>technology and various kinds of test uh prototypes for the

0:49:33.239 --> 0:49:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Air Force or for the army. But but nothing like

0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:39.600
<v Speaker 1>the Tesla death ray, at least nothing that shows up

0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:42.160
<v Speaker 1>in any real record. And I would argue that the

0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:43.640
<v Speaker 1>reason why it doesn't show up on a real record

0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:46.200
<v Speaker 1>is probably because it didn't exist. Um that my second

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:48.080
<v Speaker 1>choice would be it didn't work, and so there was

0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:51.840
<v Speaker 1>no point in more valut. I don't think we would

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:54.840
<v Speaker 1>still be debating whether or not exists if it actually

0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:57.840
<v Speaker 1>did exist, because someone would have come forward by now probably,

0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:00.120
<v Speaker 1>or it would have zapped somebody. Although there there is

0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:01.839
<v Speaker 1>stuff they don't want you to know. Did I did

0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:04.120
<v Speaker 1>an episode a couple of years ago on this even

0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:06.839
<v Speaker 1>You can go check that out on YouTube. That's it,

0:50:07.600 --> 0:50:11.880
<v Speaker 1>oh bolan uh. Then also there here's some other myths

0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:15.399
<v Speaker 1>that Tesla invented alternating current. He did not. He did not.

0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:20.000
<v Speaker 1>He alternating current was already a thing in Europe by

0:50:20.040 --> 0:50:22.960
<v Speaker 1>the time Tesla was born. It wasn't widespread, it wasn't

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:24.839
<v Speaker 1>like there was a huge power grid in Europe, but

0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:27.760
<v Speaker 1>there were people working on alternating current and even working

0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:32.120
<v Speaker 1>on things like induction motors and transformers at that time.

0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:36.040
<v Speaker 1>And so Tesla even studied alternating current when he was

0:50:36.080 --> 0:50:40.840
<v Speaker 1>in school. So it's not something that he invented. He did, however,

0:50:41.040 --> 0:50:45.600
<v Speaker 1>take the knowledge that was being generated around alternating current

0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:48.560
<v Speaker 1>and applied it and furthered it. So it's not it's

0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:51.319
<v Speaker 1>not that he just copied someone else's work. He really

0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:54.600
<v Speaker 1>did make legitimate contributions, I'm sure, and it was it

0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:57.400
<v Speaker 1>was his patents in his his work with Westinghouse that

0:50:57.680 --> 0:51:01.600
<v Speaker 1>led to alternating current, the coming the thing that the

0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:05.440
<v Speaker 1>US uses and and the thing that is capable of

0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:08.440
<v Speaker 1>going across long distances. Both of those are extremely extremely important.

0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:11.359
<v Speaker 1>I can't downplay either of those exactly. Yes, but but

0:51:11.600 --> 0:51:13.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, he did not invent it. He didn't invent it.

0:51:13.560 --> 0:51:17.200
<v Speaker 1>He's not the reason why it's what's being used in Europe. Uh.

0:51:17.239 --> 0:51:19.799
<v Speaker 1>So that's one thing we can kind of put to bed.

0:51:20.320 --> 0:51:24.400
<v Speaker 1>And in fact, the first work with alternating current dates

0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:28.800
<v Speaker 1>back to five, which was, you know, twenty years before

0:51:28.840 --> 0:51:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Tesla was born. So unless he also invented time travel,

0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:37.600
<v Speaker 1>and don't write me and tell me he did, that's

0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:40.480
<v Speaker 1>not that's not the case. Um, like I would believe

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:45.800
<v Speaker 1>anything after watching The Prestige again another documentary, right, Uh.

0:51:46.200 --> 0:51:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Beyond that, a Westinghouse, like we pointed out, was working

0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:53.000
<v Speaker 1>on UH distribution grids designs for a C power and

0:51:53.160 --> 0:51:57.120
<v Speaker 1>transformers before Tesla had even started to work for the company. Now,

0:51:57.160 --> 0:52:00.120
<v Speaker 1>granted again, Tesla's patents and the information that he was

0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:03.439
<v Speaker 1>able to provide to Westinghouse ended up making those much

0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:06.520
<v Speaker 1>more robust and it made it possible to actually act

0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:09.480
<v Speaker 1>on that. But again, it shows that he's not the

0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:13.080
<v Speaker 1>only one working on this at the time. Um. He's

0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:15.520
<v Speaker 1>also not the guy who invented transformers. Those were first

0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:18.960
<v Speaker 1>being used in Budapest in the eighteen seventies. Uh, and

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:21.800
<v Speaker 1>the very first modern transformer was built by William Stanley

0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:26.080
<v Speaker 1>in eighty five. He did not invent the fluorescent lamp.

0:52:26.760 --> 0:52:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Alexandra Beccarell was the first guy to to observe fluorescence,

0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:35.200
<v Speaker 1>and he did so in eighteen fifty seven when Tesla

0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:39.400
<v Speaker 1>was one. So again, unless Tesla was also observing fluorescence

0:52:39.440 --> 0:52:40.879
<v Speaker 1>at one year old, and maybe he was. I mean

0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:43.279
<v Speaker 1>he was born in a storm after all. Thor was

0:52:43.360 --> 0:52:47.319
<v Speaker 1>his buddy. Um, you can't say that he invented that.

0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:52.239
<v Speaker 1>He did not discover X rays. I've as we covered before. Yeah,

0:52:52.239 --> 0:52:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Ivan Poolui, I have no idea how to say his

0:52:55.400 --> 0:52:57.680
<v Speaker 1>last name. I know I just butchered it. But but Ivan,

0:52:58.360 --> 0:53:02.680
<v Speaker 1>my buddy Ivan. He he had actually observed the phenomena

0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:06.320
<v Speaker 1>of X rays before Tesla had. But just like Tesla,

0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:08.560
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't really sure what it was he was looking at.

0:53:08.600 --> 0:53:11.359
<v Speaker 1>He thought it was interesting, but he wasn't really sure

0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:14.160
<v Speaker 1>about you know, what this stuff actually is. It wouldn't

0:53:14.160 --> 0:53:17.440
<v Speaker 1>be until Wilhelm Ronin really looked into it and began

0:53:17.480 --> 0:53:21.439
<v Speaker 1>to make theories and hypotheses and tests some really clever

0:53:21.520 --> 0:53:23.640
<v Speaker 1>things about them. That's that's when we started to know

0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:26.920
<v Speaker 1>that what they were. But other other scientists had been

0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:31.120
<v Speaker 1>observing it, they just didn't understand it. Again, we talked

0:53:31.120 --> 0:53:33.319
<v Speaker 1>about the radar thing, and we talked about FBI. So

0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:36.279
<v Speaker 1>those are the big myths. Other myths are you know,

0:53:36.320 --> 0:53:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the whole Testla versus Edison thing. Uh, it was really

0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:45.800
<v Speaker 1>more Edison companies versus Westinghouse companies and not so much

0:53:45.880 --> 0:53:49.080
<v Speaker 1>a personality thing. Well, it does sound like the two

0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:51.760
<v Speaker 1>of them clashed. There are a whole bunch of reports

0:53:51.800 --> 0:53:53.600
<v Speaker 1>about how I mean, right from the get go they

0:53:53.600 --> 0:53:55.759
<v Speaker 1>didn't really like each other, right, um and and it's

0:53:55.760 --> 0:53:58.840
<v Speaker 1>easy to see, you know, they were both very strong personalities,

0:53:59.080 --> 0:54:02.359
<v Speaker 1>um and very big showman and it didn't it doesn't

0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:04.720
<v Speaker 1>sound like either of them really liked not that anyone

0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:07.239
<v Speaker 1>likes it, but but to be made a fool of.

0:54:07.560 --> 0:54:09.600
<v Speaker 1>And both of them were in the business of, in fact,

0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:11.839
<v Speaker 1>trying to make a full of the other person. So yeah,

0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:13.799
<v Speaker 1>there was some of that. There was some showmanship, There

0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:16.080
<v Speaker 1>was some there's some and and I mean there was

0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:19.320
<v Speaker 1>clearly some sort of legitimate beef between us and Tesla,

0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:21.759
<v Speaker 1>at least as far as you know, Tesla getting the

0:54:21.760 --> 0:54:24.120
<v Speaker 1>credit that he wanted and Tesla, you know, a lot

0:54:24.120 --> 0:54:28.879
<v Speaker 1>of his fortunes switched mainly because he made some really

0:54:28.920 --> 0:54:34.160
<v Speaker 1>bad business deals. He sold patents off out a pittance

0:54:34.719 --> 0:54:37.400
<v Speaker 1>at times, because the company would come to him and say,

0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:42.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's this massive economic downturn coming. We need

0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:46.360
<v Speaker 1>this these patents, but if we paid you what they're worth,

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:49.000
<v Speaker 1>then we're going to go under. And Contessa is like, look,

0:54:49.040 --> 0:54:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I'll cut you a deal. Yeah. They were basically kind

0:54:51.640 --> 0:54:52.880
<v Speaker 1>of like, can we give you a tenth of the

0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:54.359
<v Speaker 1>fee that we're going to promise you and then give

0:54:54.400 --> 0:54:57.279
<v Speaker 1>you some stock right before a terrible economic downturn. And

0:54:57.320 --> 0:55:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Tesla was like, yes, is good, give me that, and

0:55:00.600 --> 0:55:04.920
<v Speaker 1>and and and the famous Westinghouse deal where um uh.

0:55:05.040 --> 0:55:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Even even even though a Westinghouse won the so called

0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:11.120
<v Speaker 1>War of the Currents, the company was not doing well

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:14.440
<v Speaker 1>and and wound up after they had built the generator

0:55:14.480 --> 0:55:18.360
<v Speaker 1>at Niagara, I think started to go under and there

0:55:18.400 --> 0:55:22.320
<v Speaker 1>were some issues with mostly it was just again just

0:55:22.320 --> 0:55:26.360
<v Speaker 1>just poor decisions on Tesla's part um test the let

0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:28.759
<v Speaker 1>him out of the contract just to he said said like, oh, no,

0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:30.200
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to pay me the rest. That's fine,

0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:32.839
<v Speaker 1>you save your company. Yeah, which is which is great.

0:55:32.840 --> 0:55:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's lovely, it's a nice it's a terrific

0:55:34.560 --> 0:55:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but you know, it's it's when you when

0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:37.719
<v Speaker 1>you end up having no friends other than pigeons and

0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:42.280
<v Speaker 1>owing every hotel in New York money. Maybe that's why. Yeah, yeah,

0:55:42.320 --> 0:55:45.440
<v Speaker 1>that could that could be one of the factors. Um

0:55:45.600 --> 0:55:48.359
<v Speaker 1>he certainly, And I know that people are probably listening

0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:50.759
<v Speaker 1>to this episode and thinking that I am. I think

0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Tesla was a worthless lay about that. Nothing could be

0:55:54.560 --> 0:55:56.799
<v Speaker 1>further from the truth. I think he really did make

0:55:57.440 --> 0:56:01.800
<v Speaker 1>incredible contributions to to the success of the United States

0:56:01.800 --> 0:56:05.440
<v Speaker 1>in general and to several technologies around the world in particular.

0:56:05.920 --> 0:56:10.759
<v Speaker 1>But it's also important not to overstate his contributions and

0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:14.240
<v Speaker 1>to understand, especially at the expense of other very important

0:56:14.360 --> 0:56:18.480
<v Speaker 1>inventors and minds and works, it's a disservice to everyone

0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:20.920
<v Speaker 1>else who worked on these same things and helped make

0:56:20.960 --> 0:56:25.800
<v Speaker 1>them a possible a reality really in our lives, and

0:56:25.800 --> 0:56:28.360
<v Speaker 1>and you know, you've got to also pay attention to

0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:30.719
<v Speaker 1>some of the crazier ideas like the death ray, the

0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:33.760
<v Speaker 1>death raying, Yeah, or being able to move the entire

0:56:33.840 --> 0:56:37.160
<v Speaker 1>earth with putting essentially a wire around it and tapping

0:56:37.160 --> 0:56:40.680
<v Speaker 1>into the frequency that it generates, which, hey, maybe that

0:56:40.800 --> 0:56:43.880
<v Speaker 1>is possible, it's just not practical, right, Yeah, that's and

0:56:43.880 --> 0:56:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that that's a problem with a lot of

0:56:45.160 --> 0:56:49.000
<v Speaker 1>his latter theories is they were not particularly practical. Yeah, yeah,

0:56:49.200 --> 0:56:51.160
<v Speaker 1>so he was also, I mean, there there's stories about

0:56:51.239 --> 0:56:53.560
<v Speaker 1>him having a couple of nervous breakdowns at various times

0:56:53.600 --> 0:56:57.640
<v Speaker 1>in his life. I think that he was probably not

0:56:57.680 --> 0:57:01.640
<v Speaker 1>necessarily mentally well for a deal of his existence. I agree,

0:57:01.800 --> 0:57:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I think he probably had quite a few

0:57:04.880 --> 0:57:07.560
<v Speaker 1>uh issues to work through, and that I mean, you know,

0:57:07.560 --> 0:57:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I can, considering how well we treat those kind of

0:57:09.960 --> 0:57:11.840
<v Speaker 1>people today, it is easy to see how at the

0:57:11.840 --> 0:57:14.400
<v Speaker 1>turn of the century he was not particularly given the

0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:18.040
<v Speaker 1>chances that he needed. And Ladies and gentlemen, that wraps

0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:22.640
<v Speaker 1>up our conversation are our our classic episode of tech

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<v Speaker 1>stuff about Nicola Tesla, And believe it or not, I

0:57:25.920 --> 0:57:30.680
<v Speaker 1>really admire Tesla a lot. I mean, truly was a

0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:35.720
<v Speaker 1>genius a true genius and someone who had been wronged

0:57:36.320 --> 0:57:39.520
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit throughout his life. But that being said,

0:57:39.560 --> 0:57:44.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily think everything he thought of was absolutely brilliant.

0:57:44.720 --> 0:57:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't go quite that far. So uh. I hope

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