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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 1: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 1: pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: The Jason Smith Show is Steve Disager and from Mike Harmon,

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Speaker 3: not a hobo. Wow, So harm So we're muccho hobo

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Speaker 3: when it's me and Harmon. When it's me and Dissager,

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Speaker 3: he gets a no hobo, no hobo, no hobo. Okay,

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Speaker 3: all right, so we go mucho hobo to no hobo. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: abs in no hobo. I wonder what the missing piece

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Speaker 3: if we go mucho hobo?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: If Harmon and I are mucco hobo, and when Disaga's

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Speaker 3: here is no hobo, that means Harmon is the majority hobo.

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Speaker 3: He's all hobo. He's all hobo hobo for him. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, Oh now I know, Okay, So so I'm

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Speaker 3: no hobo, no hobo, no hobo, Disager, no hobo, hobo

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Speaker 3: Harmon here, mucho hobo ucho hobo?

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Speaker 2: Okay, very good, alright, good figure of that, very good.

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Speaker 2: Mucho goosto Alexander, very nice.

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Speaker 3: Uh. Jason Smith, Steve de Sager in from Mike Harmon tonight.

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Speaker 3: Happy Monday, uh and happy Fourth of July weekend. Maybe

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Speaker 3: you watch Joey Chestnut eat seventy one hot dogs on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: My goodness, you know I.

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Speaker 3: Was a little bummed because I really thought he was Friday.

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Speaker 3: I really thought he was gonna get to eighty. I

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Speaker 3: really thought, like, you know, you gotta get this disappointment

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Speaker 3: for you not to announce your presence with authority warn

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Speaker 3: like twenty five hot dogs. I know he had a

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Speaker 3: twenty five hot dog spread. Look, you think Vegas doesn't

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Speaker 3: know the number? Like, wasn't it right on the number?

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Speaker 3: Like Vegas knows the number for everything right, like they

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Speaker 3: had the number for a hot No, like he had

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Speaker 3: a tweet. I think he was a twenty five hot

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Speaker 3: dog favorite. And but wherever you got, I mean, hey,

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Speaker 3: I was, Hey, I got, I got chests out of

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Speaker 3: twenty four and a half hot dogs that last one

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Speaker 3: and a half counted and it was right there, like

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Speaker 3: it was right on the button.

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Speaker 2: Like I don't understand.

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Speaker 4: Uh, really, so you don't keep building new casinos for nothing? No,

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Speaker 4: some Vegas does, Like how are you getting on the

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Speaker 4: number for Like if you said to me okay, like like, oh,

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Speaker 4: maybe maybe this is a movie. Like if you said

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Speaker 4: to me, okay, there's one guy in Vegas, one guy,

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Speaker 4: and he's actually been to the future. He's been to

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Speaker 4: the end of time.

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 4: He has the fifth book right back to the future,

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Speaker 4: all the way from now, the results of the Future

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Speaker 4: World series.

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Speaker 5: Yeah everything.

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Speaker 3: Now, so when is it when does the Andromeda Galaxy

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Speaker 3: supposedly come and swallow the Milky Way, like like seven

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Speaker 3: million years from now or something like that, and really

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Speaker 3: so our lifetimes Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, but that's it,

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Speaker 3: Like I remember we when we sorry, this is a

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Speaker 3: really fun story. No, but this gets the thing, like, no, no,

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Speaker 3: we when we went to space Camp. Astro camp for

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Speaker 3: Space Space Camp was that movie with Tate Donovan from

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Speaker 3: the eighties when somehow it's a bunch of kids get

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Speaker 3: to blast off into space when oh we didn't know that,

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Speaker 3: we didn't know the rocket was live.

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Speaker 2: Oh ready to go. So they go into space, which

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Speaker 2: is really stupid.

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Speaker 3: But so we go to astro camp and we do it,

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Speaker 3: and it's it's thing to do all this stuff with

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Speaker 3: the stars and all that it's it's a really fun time.

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Speaker 3: And my wife and I were two of the chaperones.

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Speaker 3: So we go and at nighttime they bring the kids

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Speaker 3: out to where they could see all the stars. And

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Speaker 3: it's up in the hills and you get a really

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Speaker 3: see the milky Way, see o Ryon's belt and the

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Speaker 3: big and little dipper right just do all things. And

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Speaker 3: so they're up to so they're sitting there and and

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Speaker 3: and you know, these these kids are all like, you know,

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Speaker 3: person giving the tour say, okay, and over here is this,

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Speaker 3: and over there and all the way over there is

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Speaker 3: I think I think it's the Andromeda galaxy. But he

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Speaker 3: goes and that's the Andromata galaxy, way way way over there.

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Speaker 2: See a little bit.

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Speaker 3: It's so far away, it's so far away, and but

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Speaker 3: in I think it's seven million years, but it's moving

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Speaker 3: closer to our planet with a rapid speed, and in

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Speaker 3: seven million years it's going to engulf.

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Speaker 4: Our entire AI predicts it's four and a half billion,

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Speaker 4: four and a half billion years, okay, so four and

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Speaker 4: a half billion years, it's going to come still maybe

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Speaker 4: not in our lifetime. Yeah, no, maybe maybe.

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Speaker 3: But when you say that, you say, oh, it's going

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Speaker 3: to come and just eradicate it's going to completely just

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Speaker 3: eat swallow our galaxy. Oh we're like really yeah, oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: there'll be no and and and the person does yeah,

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Speaker 3: get four and a half billion.

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Speaker 2: I understand that.

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Speaker 3: But there's some nine year olds that to go, hey,

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Speaker 3: mister Jason, Yeah, when they said it's gonna swallow our guys,

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Speaker 3: I said, it's never gonna.

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen to ri. It's it's just that.

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Speaker 5: So that dn MA last week does not matter. It's

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Speaker 3: A half billion years and it may and it may

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Speaker 3: and it may not happen. Oh okay it might have

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Speaker 3: no No, it might not. I've read many times. It

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Speaker 3: might not happen. It might not happen. Okay, good, all right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Things they might get together. Yeah, there might be some

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Speaker 4: sort of peace treaty.

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, like, oh, you know what can change the

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Speaker 2: think about like this?

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Speaker 3: I read this week and what was it the discovery

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Speaker 3: that was launched in seventy seven. Whatever it was was

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Speaker 3: the big whatever, the big launch in nineteen seventy seven. O.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you're going back back in the sky.

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Speaker 3: Laugh there of all of that, forty eight years, we

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Speaker 3: sent out a ship that was to go as far

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Speaker 3: Now in forty eight years voyage and for the voyager

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Speaker 3: that was forty eight years, forty eight years, it's still

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Speaker 3: not even one light year away from Earth like they

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Speaker 3: say it's gonna get one light year away from Earth

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Speaker 2: Okay. So in forty eight years.

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Speaker 3: We've sent something that probably has the the the the

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Speaker 3: electronic capacity of a smartwatch that can get now is

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Speaker 3: into space and it's still going right like we sent

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Speaker 2: Nast eight years ago.

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Speaker 4: Gascars as long as fished last NASCAR Regin delay exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we started in nineteen seventy seven. Richard Petty was

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Speaker 3: on the poll. And now today.

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Speaker 6: Forty eight years coming back, forty eight years it took,

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Speaker 6: Earth one just one light year in forty eight.

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Speaker 2: Years, and I can't believe it's still working. Like they

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Speaker 2: sent again the technology on that is like maybe it's

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Speaker 2: like the same from a microwave oven, and they sent

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Speaker 4: So putting in perspective of all those people that complained

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Speaker 4: about the logistics of the movie Gravity with George Clooney, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: they're correct because they could actually travel from one place

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, they could.

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Speaker 4: People smarter than you and I were saying, oh, come on,

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Speaker 4: for crying out loud, people, we can. The distances are enormous.

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Speaker 4: You're just telling us exactly just a small portion of

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Speaker 4: what that really means.

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Speaker 2: The distance forty.

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Speaker 3: Eight year would to get to one one light one

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Speaker 4: So it's the equivalent of attempting to drive let's say,

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, that will get here faster. That will

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Speaker 3: get here fast. Yeah, you will still be on the

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Speaker 3: freeway when you're watch. Wow, it's Army Eddon that's gonna

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Speaker 3: come in. Oh no, Luckily, we said astronauts who were

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Speaker 3: dressed as mind drillers to get out there and really

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Speaker 2: Because these people work on oil rigs. So Yeah, let's

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Speaker 2: have them save the world. Yeah, that's great. Okay, that's fantastic.

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Speaker 3: While that it's going on this weekend, right, I hate

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Speaker 3: to say I told you so, but did you see

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Speaker 3: who happened to just get photographed having an appearance at

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Speaker 3: the Cleveland Cavaliers practice facility?

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Speaker 2: Lebron James Again, is that an accident?

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Speaker 3: I hate to say I told you so, but for

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Speaker 3: how for a year now, I've told you Lebron's gonna

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Speaker 3: end his career in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Right, He's gonna go, He's gonna wind up. Its gonna

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Speaker 3: It is the the the distance between Lebron and the

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Speaker 3: teams are going. And you know, about a year ago

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Speaker 3: at the end of his contract.

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Speaker 2: He's got the one year he's opting in fifty one million.

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Speaker 5: Literally, we know Cleveland. We would become so good, so good,

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Speaker 4: I imagine if they could actually fit a veteran into

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Speaker 3: All we have seen the last few months since the

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Speaker 3: Lakers got Luka Doncic was the Lakers moving away from

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Speaker 3: Lebron and you know they would trade him if they could.

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Speaker 2: Everything.

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Speaker 3: Look, it's running as a promo on the network, everything

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Speaker 3: that the Lakers have been doing the last few weeks

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Speaker 4: They are daring Lebron to ask for a trade, and

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Speaker 4: it was his sharing option to opt in. Certainly he

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Speaker 4: had to becaus where it's sake. I would love to

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Speaker 4: give you fifty million. What do you think let's extend

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Speaker 4: your contract like this year? Is it for Lebron with

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Speaker 4: the Lakers?

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Speaker 3: And he opts in because no one else has given

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Speaker 3: him that money and not also in theory would make

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Speaker 3: him easier to trade because okay, it's one year here,

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Speaker 3: and I'm sure if they traded Lebron to back to Cleveland,

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Speaker 3: six other teams involved, he would he would sign some

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Speaker 3: sort of I want to do this two year deal. However,

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Speaker 3: it's going to go maybe seven, eight, ten, twelve, fifteen

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Speaker 3: teams involving Lebron James deal. But the Lakers have been

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Speaker 3: daring Lebron to ask for a trade. Right, he's got

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Speaker 3: no trade clause.

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Speaker 4: I don't see how mathematically that could actually work, despite

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Speaker 4: what we just saw over the weekend at seventeen teams.

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Speaker 2: I'll make it happen.

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Speaker 4: They'll get to twelve teams like the Rochester Royals would

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Speaker 4: have to get involved teams that don't exist in the

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Speaker 4: NBA anymore.

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Speaker 3: Wait, hey, hey, the what was the team that's still

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Speaker 3: getting money in Saint Louis?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: So now let's see if you really think you want

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Speaker 5: I got laundry to do.

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Speaker 3: No matter how it ends in Cleveland, it ends well

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Speaker 3: He wants to control his legacy and control the optics,

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Speaker 5: In that since he was a teenager.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling home. I thought it would be after this year, but.

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Speaker 3: It could be this offseason that I've never thought We're

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: Clearly the Lakers would get a couple of assets back,

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Speaker 2: But they are deep. They are deep. They go eight

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Speaker 3: They can fill it up at the best offense in

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Speaker 3: So they can make this and maybe a couple more

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Speaker 3: So yeah, sure, Saint Louis, Are you're gonna give the.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, well we're hey, we're hey, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: You guys are gonna be great. It's gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 3: But we have never been closer to a Lebron trade

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Speaker 3: only thing is he's got to make a I'm okay

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Speaker 3: something really fast like hey, suddenly it's good. Hey, this

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Speaker 3: as to how we figure out who goes where and

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Speaker 3: Lebron can't go back to the Lakers, and Cleveland can't

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Speaker 3: go back to not getting him. So he's so this

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Speaker 3: is this big test balloon, letting everybody know, Hey, I

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's already started. If not, let's start it going

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Speaker 2: right now, because clearly I'm not part of the solution

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Speaker 2: in LA. I don't feel like I'm wanted anymore, and

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Speaker 2: and so yeah, let me come back here and I

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Speaker 4: It would be better for all involved, Frankly and the Lakers.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, you briefly reference Brownie James, that

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Speaker 4: day after the dunk Lakers. I want to see it

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Speaker 4: come to the point where they're stuck with the contra.

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Speaker 4: They're stuck with him. He can still play, by the way,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna it's gonna eventually be like the Yankees don't

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Speaker 4: Change the locks on the bathroom, what have you? So

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Speaker 2: I'm going, oh, okay, I'm just picturing when George Castan

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Speaker 3: How did It's all mental? It's all mental, It's all mental.

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Speaker 3: H Yeah, get ready Lebron to the Cavs. I hate

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Speaker 3: to say I told you so, but get ready? Exit

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 2: Ty shirt is supposed to be all Ozzie Black Sabbath songs.

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Speaker 4: Tonight, I've been trying to find something. You can't find

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Speaker 3: I think he retired, Yeah no, but they still keep

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Speaker 3: him out there. Yeah sure, yeah, they don't like wipe

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Speaker 2: I thought, when you retire it just goes with you. Uh,

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Speaker 2: that's true, that's true. That's it. But it's it's not

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Speaker 2: You go yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well that

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Speaker 3: And he's just and he's just retired. He's just retiring

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Speaker 3: now from gone he said, no, he's just retiring.

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Speaker 2: He's like, no, he's gone.

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Speaker 3: No, just you know, stop because people are tuning in,

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Speaker 2: Huh. You saw Ozzy in the hallway not a long

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Speaker 5: I saw Steven Tyler with Nikki in the.

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Speaker 3: What we do is you fill this cup with milk

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Speaker 3: Put some Brussels sprouts in and then you grind him

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Speaker 2: You drink it.

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Speaker 4: I'm a little offended. What it doesn't sound good? No, no, really,

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Speaker 4: that doesn't sound good. It's not for coffee, Steve.

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Speaker 3: call it did Tyshirt eat this? And I could make

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Speaker 2: see him eating that. I can see that.

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00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,880
Speaker 3: I can is it, Alex Tyschert.

441
00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,000
Speaker 2: Has he taken Elmer's glue and just poured it into

442
00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:58,520
Speaker 2: his mouth?

443
00:17:58,600 --> 00:17:58,800
Speaker 7: Oh?

444
00:17:58,880 --> 00:17:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, tys absolutely.

445
00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:00,879
Speaker 1: That was a kid.

446
00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a kid in my school that did

447
00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:08,479
Speaker 3: that and he got he got glue. Yeah, Joseph Bryant, right.

448
00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,440
Speaker 3: This he was a fun He could do so many crazy,

449
00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:16,000
Speaker 3: crazy things. He was able to turn his eyeball out

450
00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:17,840
Speaker 3: to where he could push his eye and it would

451
00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,680
Speaker 3: turn the other way, like the eye would like beside

452
00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,000
Speaker 3: looking into into his brain. Oh my god, dude, well

453
00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,160
Speaker 3: this is this is like fourth grade.

454
00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:25,800
Speaker 2: I used to do it.

455
00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,560
Speaker 3: It's like, oh my god. They do And he could

456
00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,280
Speaker 3: do it that easy, right, he could just do it that.

457
00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,119
Speaker 3: He's like, oh my god. And he could do that

458
00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,160
Speaker 3: and flip his eyes. But he didn't once. I think

459
00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,320
Speaker 3: it was fourth grade, third grade might have been. He

460
00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,440
Speaker 3: was always sitting. He would sit in the back and

461
00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,440
Speaker 3: the teacher, Joseph Bryant, what are you doing? Turn around

462
00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,639
Speaker 3: and he's just scoring. He's just eating the glue. Like

463
00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,679
Speaker 3: he squeezed like one of the Elmer's glue things with

464
00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,679
Speaker 3: the with the orange top. He unscrews the top and

465
00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,760
Speaker 3: he just squeezed it into his mouth like he's eating

466
00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,680
Speaker 3: ketchum and it's eating glow.

467
00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,000
Speaker 2: And sent him out and go go to the go

468
00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,400
Speaker 2: to the principal's office.

469
00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,480
Speaker 5: Had another thing that when you got your teaching.

470
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,960
Speaker 4: Credential, you wouldn't be stopping the class to say, and

471
00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,080
Speaker 4: now you wonder why people teach them leave after a

472
00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:09,720
Speaker 4: couple of years old.

473
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't do it. I'm sorry, kid, one of

474
00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,760
Speaker 2: the things. I just can't do this anymore. I'm done.

475
00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:14,240
Speaker 2: I'm done.

476
00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,879
Speaker 3: Kid was eating blue in the class like what like, No,

477
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,600
Speaker 3: They're just pouring in his mouth like he was, like

478
00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,280
Speaker 3: he was, you know, having a shake.

479
00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,240
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna eat glue.

480
00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,199
Speaker 4: We got that glue from donors chose take care of it.

481
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,200
Speaker 4: We don't have any money for this class.

482
00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,920
Speaker 2: So look, so this weekend, you probably watched Gold Cup.

483
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,720
Speaker 3: Last night, the US men's national team loses to Mexico

484
00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,280
Speaker 3: two to one, and.

485
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 5: You deserve too. They were not the better team that

486
00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:41,400
Speaker 5: you know.

487
00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,880
Speaker 3: We were better the first four minutes and then Mexico

488
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,960
Speaker 3: is better the last ninety plus minutes. The United States

489
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,200
Speaker 3: ran out of gas. We couldn't get any sort of

490
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:50,920
Speaker 3: of penetration.

491
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 4: Mexico had about sixty five percent of possession most of

492
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 4: the game.

493
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 2: And I think that was being nice.

494
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,640
Speaker 3: I think that was the statisticians at Fox being nice, going, yeah,

495
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,879
Speaker 3: let's just say sixty f but it's really ninety eight percent. Yeah,

496
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 3: but let's not do that. People are gonna go crazy.

497
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,240
Speaker 3: Uh so, yeah, Mexico scores, they score for a set

498
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:07,880
Speaker 3: piece to go up.

499
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 2: And they win two to one. And here's the thing,

500
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 2: I'm really not that upset. I'm really not.

501
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 3: In fact, I see a lot of good and more good,

502
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,679
Speaker 3: and we'll get to the handball that should have been

503
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 3: called in the second. But like I saw, I saw

504
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 3: this Gold Cup. The United States was able to accomplish

505
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 3: what they wanted to accomplish because because going into the

506
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 3: World Cup.

507
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:28,880
Speaker 2: It was terrible.

508
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 3: Right, you have you have an entitled set of players

509
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,439
Speaker 3: who have been told they were stars from the beginning,

510
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,200
Speaker 3: that are talented but have not done anything to warrant

511
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:36,679
Speaker 3: the attention.

512
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 2: You have some of the sake.

513
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 4: Fighting contracts in Europe wish Americans didn't use to.

514
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,920
Speaker 3: Which is which is great, right, since out that we're

515
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,240
Speaker 3: not producing good players, now, it's okay, how about we

516
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,159
Speaker 3: harness that. That's it, How harnessed these players and get

517
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,120
Speaker 3: them to play together. But it's been the better part

518
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 3: of a decade now for this Polistic and Robinson and

519
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 3: everybody else, and it just hasn't worked. And not only

520
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 3: has it not worked, but they have. You know, the

521
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 3: big players did want to come, didn't want to come

522
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 3: and play. And here's another, you know, another regime change

523
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 3: from Berhalter to Mauricio Pochatino, which was needed. And I

524
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 3: don't know what kind of buy in there is. I

525
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 3: don't get the sense there's any sort of togetherness in

526
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,919
Speaker 3: the United States National team, like you know, like we

527
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 3: talked to Jason Locking for about this last hour and

528
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 3: he said, I don't even know that they like each other,

529
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 3: and I go, well, I don't. It seems like, hey,

530
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 3: when they play well together, they have fun, But there

531
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 3: doesn't seem to be a sense of a buy in

532
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 3: right that. You get the other teams buying into whatever

533
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 3: system we're doing. They're buying into the message and they're

534
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 3: buying into each other. I don't get that.

535
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 4: And the new coach had talked about buying into actually

536
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 4: being sad when you don't win a soccer game, because

537
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 4: you won't become a soccer country until that's the case.

538
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,120
Speaker 4: And he wasn't just talking about fans, he was talking

539
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 4: about his own players. And when you mentioned the US team,

540
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 4: it's two sets of men's players that we're talking about.

541
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 4: The one with the veterans that embarrass themselves with back

542
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 4: to back losses in February, and then the two that

543
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 4: lost the tune ups before this tournament. So US Soccer,

544
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 4: which is going to co host the World Cup. Everyone's

545
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 4: gonna be here next summer. So it's a potential huge

546
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 4: embarrassment for the United States on and off the field.

547
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 4: They have four straight losses all at home this year

548
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 4: going into the tournament.

549
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 2: I I I, but I am not.

550
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,719
Speaker 3: In fact, I saw more good because what was the

551
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 3: main thing needed to happen after this?

552
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 2: The United States? They have no identity, they have they

553
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 2: have no direction.

554
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 3: It just seems like we're continuing to just throw stuff

555
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 3: out there and see what fits. And and again the

556
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 3: entitled generation of stars that hasn't done anything to warrant

557
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,719
Speaker 3: being stars. I don't know that there's any buying with Pochetino.

558
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 3: But before the but before the Gold Cup started, when

559
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 3: he said, you know, the players don't dictate when they

560
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 3: player when they don't about Christian polistic I'm not a mannequin,

561
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 3: which I still I love that line, like what a

562
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 3: great I am not a manic and.

563
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 4: That was not lost in the translation. He was actually

564
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 4: saying that I am coach and I'm not just here,

565
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 4: I'm not a manquin.

566
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,479
Speaker 3: So what they needed was they needed a good showing

567
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 3: in the Gold Cup and they needed to come out

568
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 3: of it with an idea. And the identity is Okay,

569
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 3: this is poach Tino system. He found some players that

570
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 3: everybody likes watching it, a backup, backup goalie every game to.

571
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 5: The whole tournament.

572
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, Freeze who wrote a paper from and I

573
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 4: think it was a senior thesis at college about penalty

574
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 4: kicks and then and he was great in Pedallyga.

575
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: No, if you write a seam a paper on it

576
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 2: in college, you better be really.

577
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 4: A couple some days ago they won on penalty kicks

578
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 4: against Costa Rica. But aside from that, they got to

579
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 4: play Trinidad in their tournament open. That's an automatic w

580
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 4: You could have won that.

581
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 5: Without eleven players. And then the Saudi Arabia win was

582
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 5: one nothing.

583
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 4: And then you get to play Haiti and then the

584
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 4: Guatemala game in the semis. So, okay, you made the

585
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 4: final of the tournament. Congrats. It wasn't exactly one stellar

586
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 4: opponent after another to get you there.

587
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 3: But the but the thing they needed to accomplish was

588
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 3: they had to come out of this saying how do

589
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 3: we go forward? How do we create our identity? And

590
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 3: throughout the course of the Gold Cup, a couple of

591
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 3: new stars have shown up. You saw how well well

592
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 3: Poachino talked about Till and how well Diego Luna played. Hey,

593
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 3: I have some guys that I like right now. If

594
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 3: we put all MLS guys out there, boy, I would

595
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 3: love that as a as a as a fensit boy,

596
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 3: I'd love to have all the MLS guys out there

597
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 3: and playing.

598
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 2: It to be awesome federation.

599
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 3: Right, we get absolutely destroyed, but it would be fun, right,

600
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 3: I mean we would well, okay, it would be fun

601
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: until they actually played the games.

602
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 2: There you go. Once the game.

603
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 4: Started, a couple of goals, I'm immediately thinking, hey, this

604
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 4: is the second coming of the Ricardo Peppi.

605
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 5: Somebody can score. He's gonna be the next Yeah, whoever.

606
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 3: But what he needed to do is how do we

607
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 3: come out of And they played well enough getting to

608
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 3: the final and losing with the B team that enough

609
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: of them, there was enough ground swell against the players

610
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 3: who didn't come, including Polistic who's the leader of this

611
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 3: that they understand. Okay, Pochatino. He's the guy in charge now,

612
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 3: right because I won with these guys, and coaches all

613
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 3: want to play with their guys, right heat When he said, listen,

614
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 3: you don't say what how things go here, he needed

615
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 3: to have a big showing in the Gold Cup to

616
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 3: be able to continue on with that. And they did

617
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: well enough, getting to the getting to the championship game

618
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 3: and losing by a goal. So now coming out of this, okay,

619
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 3: it's his program.

620
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 2: The optics are change a little bit.

621
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,719
Speaker 3: We have some more young players coming up that and

622
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 3: the ones that skip and the veterans they have to

623
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 3: understand now that okay, we have to buy in or

624
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 3: maybe we get left home, or this is our last

625
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 3: chance we're to play in a World Cup because four

626
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: years from now they're gonna pick different players entirely and

627
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 3: we're going to be out and this is gonna be

628
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 3: in his early thirties and never get picked for a

629
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 3: World Cup team again. Some of the other guys are

630
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 3: never gonna get selected. So coming out of this, yes,

631
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 3: we know the identity of the team, and we also

632
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 3: know that the players are skipped have to buy in

633
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 3: or risk potentially this being their last World Cup or

634
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 3: getting left off the roster because Poschino doesn't seem like

635
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 3: he's one of those guys going, yeah, I'll let you

636
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 3: come in now and play. No. No, if you don't come

637
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: in and you and you don't show me you're committed,

638
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 3: I will go with other guys, and if we wind

639
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 3: up losing, we wind up losing. But I'm convinced that.

640
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: The the the.

641
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 3: System that I can input. I'll get the players that

642
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 3: I like, as all coaches want their own players, and

643
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 3: I am more than happy going to battle without you

644
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: you buy into my system or not. So I think

645
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 3: coming out of this they hit rock bottom and now

646
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 3: they can dig back up. You don't want them dig

647
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 3: back up eleven months before the World cut. I hope

648
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 3: that I but I feel like everybody is everybody's now okay,

649
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 3: we have no choice but to be on the same

650
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 3: page going forward. So I think that's they need to

651
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 3: accomplish in the Gold Cup, and they did, so I'm

652
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 3: not I'm not that upset. Hey, if they won, great,

653
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 3: that was like, it's it's gravy if them gravy, Like

654
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 3: it's gravy if they wig. But but they didn't win,

655
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 3: and they shouldn't have won and they showed that, Okay,

656
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 3: our B team is not going to be good enough,

657
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 3: so we need these guys. So hopefully it's a it's

658
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 3: a happy mix of everybody understanding we need to be

659
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 3: on the same page going forward.

660
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 4: What's been said for me as a fan of US

661
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 4: teams is that this past decade, if I can generalize,

662
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 4: it just seems like we're going backwards. We're going back

663
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 4: to keep in mind, way before land and Dadavan, like

664
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 4: when Alexi Lawless was playing and that group in the

665
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 4: early nineties, the US until nineteen ninety had not made

666
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,719
Speaker 4: the World Cup at all for forty years. We just

667
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 4: didn't matter in that sport on a world level. And

668
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 4: then guess what, they made it and quickly got trounced

669
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 4: three times and exited the nineteen ninety World Cup. And

670
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 4: then when we hosted in nineteen ninety four, of course

671
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 4: we got in automatically and the offense in four games

672
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 4: scored two goals. That was US men's soccer in the

673
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 4: nineteen nineties. It was a struggle. Fast forward a decade

674
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 4: they could play with anybody in the world. With Landon

675
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 4: Donovan and company ed Clint Dempsey wound up being a

676
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 4: great scorer for this team, and now we have regressed.

677
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 4: It's not just the coaching change, which was needed, it's

678
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 4: that the next generations coming up are really not taking

679
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 4: the baton and going for it. Congratulations, you play with

680
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 4: a famous Italian club. You used to play with that

681
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 4: team in Europe. Good for you personally. It hasn't translated

682
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 4: to the US actually being something. And I will add

683
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 4: that even getting to the Gold Cup final was not

684
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 4: impressive to me the last couple of weeks because our

685
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 4: region of the world, this was the regional championship is down.

686
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 4: Even Mexico is down. Oh yeah, all of the teams,

687
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 4: Costa Rica is down. All of the teams that we

688
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 4: would potentially meet and some we did, none of them are.

689
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 5: As good as they were a few years ago now.

690
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 3: And now all that being said, right, all that being said,

691
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 3: the handball that wasn't called okay, second half, and Pochattina

692
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: was right when he said, if that happened in our end,

693
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: we're getting called for the handball, which he's absolutely right, because.

694
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 5: Listen, Mexico's defense was not called for.

695
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 3: NBA officiating looks like we NBA officiating looks like the

696
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 3: NFL using replay compared to what happens to the United States.

697
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 5: In soccer or WNBA officiating.

698
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: We'll get to that, but the United States absolutely that

699
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 3: would have gone against us, and the United States goes

700
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 3: into it's ridiculous how stacked it is against the United

701
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: States men's team. When we go and play, there's calls

702
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 3: that are made that I just shake my head and go,

703
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: what the hell? Now, they didn't get this handball call

704
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: in the second half, which should have absolutely been a handball.

705
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 4: A defender fell with his flat hand on top of

706
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 4: the ball. It doesn't matter if it's an accident, right

707
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 4: the rule of base in all sports get called whether

708
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 4: their accidents or not.

709
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: Now they fall on the on the on the philosophy

710
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: of you can to break your fall.

711
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: You could put your hand down if it comes in

712
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: contact with the ball, it's okay. Now poach Tino says

713
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: it hand wasn't on the ground. He actually put his

714
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: hand on the ball. Now, okay. So if that's the case,

715
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: I get it that. Okay, you put your hand on there,

716
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 3: you put down your hand on the ball. Your hand

717
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: has to come off the ball right away. But this

718
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: is what turned into a Penley fan I can't believe

719
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: they did. But again, the United States gets screwed more

720
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 3: than anybody else in any sport nationally when when they

721
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 3: play internationally. You see Sanchez, his hand is on the ball,

722
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: his left hand is on the right side of the ball,

723
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: and he turns it to make it easier for himself

724
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: to get it and kick it out because he turns

725
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: it away from the net and he gets up like that. Okay,

726
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 3: right there, that's enough for a penalty. Your hand is

727
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 3: on the ball, it doesn't slide off, and you turn it.

728
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 3: I mean, you benefit. You can see it plain as day.

729
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 3: You had an advantage because of that, because he clearly

730
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: tried to do it to get it away. So he

731
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 3: knows where he's going, he knows the United States players

732
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: is going towards the net, and he can do it,

733
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 3: and I'm turning it back this way, and still there's

734
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 3: no call. I mean that that is I mean, that

735
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 3: was absolutely ridiculous. And and I just know that when

736
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 3: something like that happens the United States, we're never going

737
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 3: to get that call. We're never going to get it.

738
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 3: We do agree.

739
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 5: Bottom line, Mexico was clearly the better team.

740
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 3: But that's that's the thing about soccer. You can you

741
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 3: can dominate an entire game, but.

742
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 4: And and take it kicks and then you take your chances.

743
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 4: As far as the US and Mexico will say it again,

744
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 4: this was their last competitive match until they co host

745
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 4: next summer's World Cup. They're already in as hosts. There

746
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 4: are there's nothing, there are no qualification games. So the US,

747
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 4: for example, is going to be hosting South Korea and

748
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 4: Japan and a couple of exhibitions in early September, and

749
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 4: then they're going to have of course exhibitions next year

750
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 4: and set the roster later.

751
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: I'm okay, they've hit rock bottom and now we're going

752
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: to hope again.

753
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 4: I thought rock bottom was missing the World Cup entirely

754
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 4: and twenty eighteen.

755
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, that is okay, But okay, the status well,

756
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 3: we knew we were making it because we didn't have.

757
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: To qualify this time.

758
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 3: So that if I'm okay, they've now they're moving back

759
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: up and everybody should be on the same page. I'm

760
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 3: feeling I'm feeling better than I have about it in

761
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: a while, because they needed this, They needed to go

762
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 3: what's the identity?

763
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: What's this?

764
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 3: And we clearly know what it is, and everybody knows that,

765
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: whether you're a veteran player or a young player, Hey,

766
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: I have to buy in or I'll.

767
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: Be left home.

768
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: Speaking of getting left home, the Dodgers left there pitching

769
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 3: home today or at least in the hotel in Milwaukee.

770
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: Steve de Seger has more on this with What's Trending.

771
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 4: And it was an All Stars LA's starting pitcher. A

772
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 4: team that has now lost four in a row, the

773
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 4: Dodgers were beaten nine to one at Millwa Talkey tonight.

774
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 4: Yoshinobu Yamamoto, who injured with an ERA of two point

775
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 4: five to one, took the loss. He was out in

776
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 4: the first inning, allowed five runs forty one pitches. Ella

777
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 4: has been outscored during its brief losing streak thirty eight

778
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 4: to seven. They lost all the home games over the

779
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 4: weekend to Houston, but Houston was beaten at home by

780
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 4: Cleveland tonight seven to five. The Guardians had lost ten

781
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 4: in a row. Toronto won its ninth straight game eight

782
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 4: four at the White Sox. The Blue Jays are the

783
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 4: first place team in the AL Ease. They started the

784
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 4: night three games up on the Yankees and Rays. Tampa

785
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 4: Bay was beaten five to one at Detroit, which has

786
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 4: won four straight. Miami a five to one winner at Cincinnati.

787
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 4: Boston won its fourth in a row nine to three

788
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 4: over Colorado. Kansas City sent Pittsburgh to a fourth straight loss,

789
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 4: nine to three. Three late games, Rangers holding on four

790
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 4: to three in Anaheim. That game is in the bottom

791
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 4: of the six Jacob de Grom pitched the first five

792
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,479
Speaker 4: innings with five strikeouts for Texas. The Diamondbacks lead at

793
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 4: San Diego four to one in the top of the seventh.

794
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: U Darvish made his season debut after the elbow problems.

795
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 4: Lasted three and two thirds sixty three pitches for the Padres.

796
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 4: The Phillies are tied one one at San Francisco bottom

797
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 4: of the seventh inning. The idol Mets second in the

798
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 4: NL East, game and a half behind Philadelphia. The Nationals

799
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 4: named Miguel Cairo as interim manager. Dave Martinez was fired

800
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 4: Sunday along with g and Mike Rizzo. The Nats are

801
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 4: last in the NL East. The Twins Byron Buxton will

802
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 4: be in next Monday's home run derby. It's in Atlanta.

803
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 4: He's a Georgia native. Also in that home run Derby

804
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 4: will be Atlanta's Ronald leccune, also Cal Raley and James

805
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 4: Wood of the NATS. The Orlando Magic Apollo Banco a

806
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 4: five year max extension. The Clippers traded Norman Powell to

807
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 4: the Heat in the WNBA just two games, five minutes

808
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 4: to go at Phoenix Mercury up on Dallas ninety four

809
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 4: to sixty eight. Page Beckers three of eleven, shooting eleven

810
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 4: points for the Dallas Wings, And earlier it was Atlanta

811
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 4: over expansion Golden State ninety to eighty one. Number one

812
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 4: seed Yonick Center advanced to the Wimbledon quarterfinals.

813
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 5: Back to you, Steve O.

814
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: Jason Smith, Steve to Sager and from Mike Harmon coming

815
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 3: up next. You thought complaining about the officials was gonna

816
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 3: end with the end of the NBA Finals. Oh no,

817
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 3: that we got something for you next right here, Fox

818
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 3: Sports Radio.

819
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

820
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

821
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: pm Pacific.

822
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

823
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: Jason Smith Steve to Sager, Oh you thought we'd had

824
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: the end of the boy Professional basketball officials are terrible. No, no, no, no,

825
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 3: no no. You had the sparks Kelsey Plumb about a

826
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 3: week or so ago, not understanding how games are officiating.

827
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 3: I got scratches all down my arms. I don't get

828
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 3: what's going on. And now Angel Reese the latest to

829
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 3: complain about officiating when Sky lost on Sunday and saw

830
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: the big discrepancy at the free throw line, and she

831
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 3: is the latest to say, Hey, this stinks and I

832
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: can't take it anymore. Let's take a listen to a

833
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 3: little bit of Angel Reese from her postgame comments a

834
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 3: day ago.

835
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 5: Or do I have to play the part of Angel

836
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 5: race White up into the fourth quarter and she tells

837
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 5: me it's not her job.

838
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: So not her job. Huh, hey, what's it's not my job?

839
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 3: Oh?

840
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 2: Not my job? Our job to officiate, to officiate the game?

841
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: A job too well, I understand.

842
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 3: She goes on to say that, look, I've been I've

843
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 3: been good about it, but now I can't. I can't

844
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 3: take it anymore. I'm sick of this blank and it's

845
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 3: got a change. And first of all, I love this

846
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 3: because it's a basketball story. It's not about who loves

847
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark and who does it and all the time

848
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: who loves other players? But I do want to say

849
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 3: this because we here. My first thing is, hey, welcome

850
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 3: to basketball. Let me know if you figure out how

851
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 3: that works, because you know, the NBA needs some up

852
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 3: with that too. If you figure out a solution as

853
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 3: to how to fix the officiating, let me know, let

854
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 3: me know. And hey, because I'd love to say it

855
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 3: because this has been going on for the better part

856
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty five, thirty years that I've been watching

857
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 3: the NBA. So hey, if you have a solution that

858
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 3: works to get games officiated better, Hey, I'm all ears.

859
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: I want to hear what do you got?

860
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 4: But also she deserves to be called out for what

861
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 4: you just referenced. She can't go up to an official

862
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 4: say hey, I've only been up to the line twice.

863
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 5: As is the officials job to get you there. They

864
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 5: are not predisposed.

865
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 4: Okay, as we go over the pregame notes, so and

866
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 4: so's got to get to the line five times, or

867
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 4: it's just what its like sometimes the foul free throw disparity.

868
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 4: You see this in the playoffs, especially, fans start arguing,

869
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 4: not realizing that one team might be a lot more

870
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 4: aggressive in the lane and therefore drawing more fouls.

871
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: That way.

872
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 4: Sometimes there are legitimate reasons for one team having far

873
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 4: more free throws than the other, and for you as

874
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 4: a player, this says something more about her than the

875
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 4: refs to actually think that, hey, I've only been up

876
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: to the free throw line twice, like it's the ref's

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Speaker 4: job to get you there.

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Speaker 5: Sorry.

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Speaker 2: See.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, though, is that, you know, look, I'm

881
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: very critical of Angel Reese because obviously she's you know

882
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 3: when she said things that you go, Okay, come on,

883
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 3: what are we really trying to accomplish here but this?

884
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 2: And no, honestly I see it because look.

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00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: Then look they had a couple of screen grabs and

886
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 3: a couple of replays of her being held around the

887
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 3: waist while she's going for a rebound in general, and.

888
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 2: I get it.

889
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 3: So I now understand they can't call everything, because then

890
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: it would be an unwatchable product.

891
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: Right, It's like holding in the NFL. Right, you can't

892
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 2: call it all the time.

893
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 3: You got to hold it when it affects the players, egregious,

894
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 3: And so I get that. That's how officials watch the game. Okay,

895
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 3: did she not get this offensive rebound because of a foul?

896
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 3: Or if she got fouled, but she gets the offensive rebound.

897
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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna blow my whistle even though by the

898
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 3: letter of the law things are a foul, I understand,

899
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 3: but I get that. Look, we see enough officiating with

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00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 3: me in both sports where you're saying, hey, that's something

901
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 3: that you get to the free throw line on that.

902
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 3: This is something that you can't ignore and players are

903
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 3: just going to continue to take more and more from them.

904
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 3: You know, hey, if you're not gonna call it, I'm

905
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: gonna get to do X, Y and Z, because yeah,

906
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: you can't simply call everything. I mean, look, you're not

907
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 3: Scott Foster. You know, he's not doing a game. You

908
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 3: got to send people there.

909
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Speaker 4: But I mean, this is this is part of when

910
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 4: when when I see a stable like this and I go.

911
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, well welcome, Welcome to the big time.

912
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Speaker 2: This is how it works. This is how it goes.

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Speaker 4: It also, and since you're bringing up more than one example,

914
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Speaker 4: this kind of smacked to me, as is this another

915
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Speaker 4: example of the WNBA not being ready for prime time?

916
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Speaker 4: That you have a product, this is your product, after all,

917
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 4: you have a product that is going to get a

918
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 4: little more of a microscope than it did for so

919
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 4: many years. But you know what, this isn't just going

920
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Speaker 4: on this year. This is part of your product and

921
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Speaker 4: it's not a compliment. No.

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Speaker 3: Look, because I've said the biggest thing the WNBA has

923
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Speaker 3: shown is that they can't handle success, right, they can't

924
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 3: handle success. They have not been able to do it.

925
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 3: They've been just succeeding despite themselves. And you saw that

926
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: story this weekend that came out about the whole dijon

927
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Speaker 3: A Carrington and Caitlyn Ark story from a year ago

928
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Speaker 3: with with Christine Brennan, and a big, a big part

929
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Speaker 3: of this Christine Brennan's article on on on you know

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Speaker 3: the Caitlin Clark foul that kind of jump started all

931
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Speaker 3: this year ago, is that she's got a quote from

932
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Speaker 3: someone in the w NBA that says, hey, a lot

933
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 3: of our players are just starting to understand. They don't

934
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: they don't get a lot of things that are going

935
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Speaker 3: on media wise and how things go because it's their

936
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Speaker 3: first time they're being exposed to being a big deal.

937
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 3: Right because w NBA has been able to look, they've

938
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 3: they've been a niche sport for a while and now

939
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 3: they've hit the big time.

940
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 2: And they're all getting used to it.

941
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 3: They need but they the thing is, they need to

942
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 3: accelerate that learning curve, saying, hey, you guys are big

943
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 3: time now you see this, You guys are big time

944
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,479
Speaker 3: parts of the everyday sports conversation. We gotta we gotta

945
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 3: accentuate that led that learning curve a little bit so

946
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: it doesn't look like, hey, this is stuff that's been

947
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: going on in sports for a long time and you're

948
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 3: just getting to it now, right, You got you gotta

949
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Speaker 3: make us speed that thing up a bit, speed it up.

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Speaker 3: Exit out about a fresca Tason Smith, Steve de seger

951
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Speaker 3: in from Mike Harmon. Coming up next, we get back

952
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Speaker 3: into a big story out of Major League Baseball. Keep

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Speaker 3: it right here, Jason, Steve, This is Fox Sports Radio.