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Speaker 1: This is what happens when the fourth Turning meets fifth

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Speaker 1: generation warfare.

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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran, This.

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Speaker 1: Is Human Events with your host Jack Kisobek, christ Is Mercedes.

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Speaker 3: Russia has launched a wide scale attack on Ukraine. At

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Speaker 3: least four people are dead, at number is expected to rise.

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Speaker 3: It's in response to Ukraine's drone attack deep inside Russia,

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Speaker 3: which experts say was a game changer in terms of

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Speaker 4: The US Army official warns the American military is not

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Speaker 4: doing enough to keep up with the kind of drone

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Speaker 5: President Donald Trump's administration on Thursday and post sanctions on

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Speaker 5: four judges at the International Criminal Court. It's an unprecedented

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Speaker 5: retaliation over the War Tribunal's issuance of an arrest warrant

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Speaker 5: for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin and Yahoo, and a past

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Speaker 4: A federal judge in Boston has granted a temporary block

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Speaker 4: on President Trump's move to ban foreign students from traveling

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Speaker 6: Man accused of fire bombing a peaceful rally in Boulder, Colorado.

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Speaker 7: A big, ugly breakup over President Trump's Big Beautiful Bill

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Speaker 7: between President Trump and Elon Musk. Musk slamming the President's

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Speaker 7: budget bill for too much spending and not enough cuts,

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Speaker 7: the President threatening to pull Musk's thirty eight billion dollars

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Speaker 7: in government contracts and subsidies. Musk warning the Epstein files

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Speaker 7: are being.

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Speaker 6: Kept secret to protect the president.

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Speaker 4: Not only making the Trump tax cuts permanent, but the

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Speaker 4: largest package of working class, middle.

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Speaker 4: You combine that with unleashing American energy, getting rid of

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Speaker 4: wasteful regulations, and also very importantly getting the legal aliens

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events

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Speaker 1: Daily Live from Washington, DC. Today is June sixth, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five. Anno Dominie, the sixth of June, eighty one

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Speaker 1: years since the D Day invasions of Normandy, France. Here's

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Speaker 1: a question with the Boys of Omaha Beach recognize the

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Speaker 1: America of today.

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Speaker 6: What were they fighting for?

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Speaker 1: Is the country today the kind of country that the

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Speaker 1: Boys of Omaha Beach wanted? I would argue that it's not.

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Speaker 1: And you can talk to them, many of them, not

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Speaker 1: as many as before, but many of them are still around.

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Speaker 6: May people know people who knew them.

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Speaker 1: And one of the ways that we can get back there,

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Speaker 1: get back to that America, is through ending the migrant crisis.

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Speaker 1: The migrant crisis is the largest and most significant change

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Speaker 1: to America. It is the largest and most significant races

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Speaker 1: facing America today. Let me ask you a couple of questions,

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Speaker 1: Lake and Riley, Rachel Morin, Joscelyn Nungary. Did the debt

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Speaker 1: and the deficit kill those American women?

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Speaker 6: Was it the debt that did that? Or was it

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Speaker 6: illegal migrants?

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Speaker 1: I think we know the answer to that question, and

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Speaker 1: we know the answer to all these questions. These are

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Speaker 1: the people who should not be here, and President Donald J.

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Speaker 1: Trump was elected to remove them. When I went to

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Speaker 1: the RNC, what sign did I hold? It was the

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Speaker 1: one they passed out and it said mass deportations. Now

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Speaker 1: everyonn go see the pictures. I remember what was said

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Speaker 1: at every single one of those rallies, every single one

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Speaker 6: This package that the.

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Speaker 1: President has put together an estate all of his considerable

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Speaker 1: political capital on.

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Speaker 6: Yes, there are tax cuts and by.

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Speaker 1: The way, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime,

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Speaker 1: are massive game changers for the working class. But it

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Speaker 1: is the mass deportations that were the mandate from almost

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Speaker 1: ten years ago. We're ten days away from the ten

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Speaker 6: We are going to no matter what.

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Speaker 8: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 6: Understand what America First truly means.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna lay it out for a real simple, real simple.

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Speaker 1: The MAGA movement exists because of mass deportations. It exists

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Speaker 1: because of the immigration issue period fullstop. With Donald Trump

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Speaker 6: Do you really.

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Speaker 1: Think that we've come this far to just throw it

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Speaker 1: Why is it that there's there's always plenty of money

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Speaker 1: Ten years we are not stepping back one step. And

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Speaker 6: Oh an, take it away, vish Jack.

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Speaker 8: This is really really simple.

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Speaker 10: Like you said, ten years ago, President Trump came down

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Speaker 10: and it started with the illegal immigration issue. I mean,

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Speaker 10: cut deficits now. They said mass deportations now. And you know,

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Speaker 10: And you know, he came out with this big, beautiful

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Speaker 10: This is ultimately what this bill is addressing on a

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Speaker 10: finally finishes the wall. It mandates that a million people

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Speaker 8: That's what this bill is about.

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Speaker 10: That's what our fight, Magus fight has always been about.

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Speaker 10: It's been on number one issue since time immemorial.

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Speaker 10: That's right, Jack, And think about all the sacrifices President

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Speaker 12: Today. You know that you talk about influencers.

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Speaker 2: These are influencers and they're friends and mine.

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Speaker 9: Jack all right, Jack, SOBCUR we are back Human Events Daily,

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Speaker 1: Folks, This bill is everything that we've been fighting for.

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Speaker 6: For ten years.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that there aren't, you know, some

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Speaker 1: we live in the real world. This is how political

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Speaker 1: And that's mostly through trade, but also through economic policies

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Speaker 1: ending the foreign wars. You're worried about, you're worried about

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Speaker 10: Well, this is the entrenched uniparty establishment out and play jack, right.

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Speaker 10: This is also part of what we've been trying to

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Speaker 10: It takes time, and there's still estab establishment menitarians and

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Speaker 8: Gotten more of what we wanted.

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Speaker 10: But as the majority in the Congress is constituted, now,

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Speaker 1: I can really agree this one of the other things

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Speaker 1: So one are the top issues as well, by the way,

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Speaker 10: Well, it's actually quite I'm sure the honor and the

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Speaker 6: We'd be right back.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be talking Ukraine, talking about that war

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Speaker 11: The Congressional Budget Office released its estimates for the One

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Speaker 11: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth commemorated the eighty first anniversary of

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Speaker 6: And Meanwhile, the alleged.

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Speaker 11: Suspect behind the Colorado attack is now facing more than one.

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Speaker 6: Hundred and eighteen charges.

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Speaker 11: Mohammed Sabre Solomon is now facing more than a dozen

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Speaker 11: attempted murdered charges and animal cruelty, among others. He was

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Speaker 11: being held on a ten million dollar bond and accused

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Speaker 11: of hurling fire bombs into a crowd at a rally

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Speaker 11: calling for the release of hostages held by HMAS. Those

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Speaker 11: are Real America's Voice headlines, IBO Davidson.

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Speaker 6: Now we return to Jack Wassobin.

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Speaker 8: At Jack, Where's Jack? Where's Jack? Worthing? Jack? I want

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Speaker 8: to see you. Great job, Thank you, what a job

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Speaker 8: you do.

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Speaker 11: You know, we have an incredible thing.

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Speaker 8: We're always talking about the fas.

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Speaker 1: And the bad, but we have guys, and these are

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Speaker 1: the guys you're forgetting policies.

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Speaker 13: It is a deliberate strike and it only confirms our

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Speaker 13: suspicions that the illegitimate regime in Kiev came to power

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Speaker 13: through It is now being every born as a terrorist

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Speaker 13: organization and it's sponsors down and become supporters of terrorism.

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Speaker 8: Strategy.

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Speaker 13: Recently, the Ukrainian government and their allies dreamt strategic defeat

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Speaker 13: on Russia on the battlefield. Now they're drawing, I see

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Speaker 13: from the battle zone, fleeing, and now the Kiev regime

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Speaker 13: is trying to resort to the terrorist attacks. At the

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Speaker 13: same time, there wish Water asking for a ceasefire, they're

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Speaker 13: asking for top level meetings. How can we organize such

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Speaker 13: meetings something like this is happening. What is there to

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Speaker 13: talk about?

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Speaker 14: How can we negotiate with those resorting to terrorism and poison?

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Speaker 14: Why should wesion was that.

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Speaker 8: Reward them.

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Speaker 13: And facilities allowing them to receive additional weapons to continue

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Speaker 13: their mobilization and to prepare for more terrorist attacks like

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Speaker 13: those in the skin consecrecions?

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Speaker 1: All right, folks, Jack re celbric Here, Human Events Daily,

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Speaker 1: Real Americans Voice, Salem Radio Network, Charlie kirk Our three.

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Speaker 6: That was President Putin. It's been translated into English, but.

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Speaker 1: That was President Putin declaring that after the attacks on

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Speaker 1: russ civilians and a civilian train, the attacks on the

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Speaker 1: strategic bombers, that he now views and the Kremlin now

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Speaker 1: views the Ukrainian government essentially as terrorists, and of course,

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Speaker 1: in the Russian parlance, they would then come back and say, well,

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Speaker 1: we refuse to negotiate with terrorists. This also comes amid

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Speaker 1: a massive reprisal from the Russians, sending ballistic missiles, cruise missiles,

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Speaker 1: and hundreds of drones, massive drone swarms across every single

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Speaker 1: region of Ukraine last night, all the way up to

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Speaker 1: the border with Poland itself, the NATO border, and so

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Speaker 1: huge reprisal.

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Speaker 6: And so many analysts in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: Have told us that the Russians don't have the reserves,

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Speaker 1: they don't have the military capacity to be able to

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Speaker 1: do this. Well, guess what. Russia never dive of their

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Speaker 1: manufacturing base. They never did the United States did. They

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Speaker 1: also are willing to tab their own economic resources and

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Speaker 1: their natural resources, oil, liquid, natural gas, all of it

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Speaker 1: that's out in far East Siberia. They're using it. They're

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Speaker 1: selling it to the Chinese. They're using it to flood

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Speaker 1: the zone and to prop up the bricks nations. And oh,

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Speaker 1: don't tell me, by the way, that the sanctions are

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Speaker 1: really stopping that. This is how this is how they're

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Speaker 1: getting around a lot of this while they continue to

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Speaker 1: fill their cofers and Europe, by the way, Western Europe

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Speaker 1: is still purchasing Russian gas because they have to.

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Speaker 6: It is just cheaper. It is just cheaper, and that's

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Speaker 6: what's going on. So this is a huge turn in relations.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to bring on someone that I've been chatting

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Speaker 1: with about this for a little while on the backside,

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Speaker 1: but not on the show yet. But I want to

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Speaker 1: bring them on because I think he has a lot

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Speaker 1: of interesting things to say.

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Speaker 6: It's Jeff Webb.

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Speaker 1: He's the CEO of the Huge Events media group and

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Speaker 1: a business entrepreneur in his own right. Jeff, you know,

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Speaker 1: hearing this latest out of Ukraine, what does this mean

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Speaker 1: for the peace talks?

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Speaker 6: What does this mean for the peace process?

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Speaker 12: See, it's very concerning, it very disturbing.

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Speaker 2: I think rather than moving with some type of momentum

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Speaker 2: toward peace discussions starting with the ceasefire and so on,

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Speaker 2: as President Trump is attempted, we seem to be going

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Speaker 2: in the other direction. I mean, we're getting real escalation here,

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Speaker 2: and I really worry that the opportunity for real peace

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Speaker 2: discussions has come and gone and that maybe even a

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Speaker 2: year ago, I think the Ukraine.

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Speaker 12: Was in a stronger position to have those negotiations.

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Speaker 2: And now again we see what the attacks on the

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Speaker 2: Russian air bases last week and then of course the

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Speaker 2: attacks you mentioned just now in Ukraine by the Russians.

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Speaker 12: It's things are going the wrong direction. There's no doubt

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Speaker 12: about it.

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Speaker 8: And I think you make a very.

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Speaker 2: Good point, Jack about the Russians abilities to rearm. And

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Speaker 2: we have been hearing you're right for months, for months

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Speaker 2: from military so called military experts, that Russian was going

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Speaker 2: to run out of you know, military armaments, and it

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Speaker 2: seems to be just the opposite. And that that's concerning

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Speaker 2: as well, because now you've got this Russian army and

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Speaker 2: this Russian military that is getting all this battlefield experience,

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Speaker 2: and that's concerning, you know.

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Speaker 12: They're one of the.

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Speaker 2: Things they've said about the US, especially after Vietnam, was

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Speaker 2: even though that was a big problem, you know, the

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Speaker 2: military really, you know, had experience on tactics and.

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Speaker 8: How to do things differently.

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Speaker 2: Well, the Russians are fighting a modern war and they're

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Speaker 2: starting to do better and better. And now they've they've

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Speaker 2: armed themselves, they've built up their manufacturing for their war,

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Speaker 2: for their war capability, so all the way around, I

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Speaker 2: think it's not good.

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Speaker 1: So, Jeff, if you had the ability to reach out

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Speaker 1: to and obviously we have senators and members of Congress

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Speaker 1: who watch the program and our listening and potentially listening

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Speaker 1: on the podcast side or or or live on sale

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Speaker 1: and radio right now, if you had the ability to

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Speaker 1: reach out to them, what would your advice be given

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Speaker 1: the current situation between the two sides.

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Speaker 8: That's tough one, Jack. You know, hey, it's not so

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Speaker 8: olding that.

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Speaker 1: We have someone who's been involved in international negotiations and

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Speaker 1: dealing with these types of coalitions at things at this level.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I figure if Steve Wikoff can do it,

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Speaker 1: then maybe maybe we could tap some of Jeff Web's

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Speaker 1: expertise as well.

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Speaker 6: Fair Enough, It doesn't make.

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Speaker 2: It any easier, but fair enough, you know, I think

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Speaker 2: that I'm worried that the Europeans, frankly, who have a

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Speaker 2: bunch different situation than we do, they're they're a lot

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Speaker 2: closer to this.

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You know, the Western Europeans have been fighting the Russians,

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Speaker 2: you know, on and off for hundreds and hundreds of years,

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Speaker 2: back and forth of the Ukraine and Poland and so on,

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Speaker 2: and there's a lot of mistrust there. You have to

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Speaker 2: look back also at the fact that the Russians lost

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Speaker 2: nearly nine million soldiers during World War Two, seventeen millions

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Speaker 2: civilians seventeen million, and so there's a lot of mistrust

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Speaker 2: on that side as well. I think somehow, some way,

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Speaker 2: I think it can't be done without the US. I

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Speaker 2: think President Trump right now is at a very tough position.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure he has the cards to play. You know,

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Speaker 2: he was talking to Zelenskin, and I mean that with

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Speaker 2: all respect. It's just that I don't know that we

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Speaker 2: have a lot of influence right now. It's not the

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Speaker 2: right time. But the Europeans have seemed to be much

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Speaker 2: more kind of hawkish than we have. And you do

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Speaker 2: when the British are going to a war footing and

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Speaker 2: they're talking about, you know, putting the French, we're talking

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Speaker 2: about putting, you know, boots on the ground in Ukraine.

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Speaker 12: That's that's that's really going the wrong direction. Somehow, some way,

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Speaker 12: we have to get our way.

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Speaker 2: To a ceasefire, where as President Trump said, at least

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Speaker 2: the killing stops, and somebody's going to have to make

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Speaker 2: their first move.

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Speaker 6: I don't think the Russians are.

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Speaker 1: Going to do it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to have to be the Ukrainians. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: just because of the history here.

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Speaker 1: Well, Jeff, coming at it from a negotiator standpoint, you know,

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Speaker 1: Ukraine obviously is very entrenched in their position, and you know,

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Speaker 1: they're fighting this war for their survival in many cases,

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Speaker 1: and they're willing, as we've seen, to go to great

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Speaker 1: lengths to conduct these attacks, which Russia then responds and

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Speaker 1: calls them terrorist attacks, saying you're hitting bridges, you're hitting trains. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: this huge, very audacious plan to attack the strategic bombers

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Speaker 1: across all of Russia.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, but what it really comes down to, do

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Speaker 6: you think this is going to.

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Speaker 1: Get done without having ultimately Trump and Putin talking to

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Speaker 1: each other and really making that one on one deal

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Speaker 1: between the two of them.

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Speaker 12: I think it will not stop until that ultimately happens.

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Speaker 12: It's it's a matter of.

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Speaker 2: Getting to that, to that position, listening to what and

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Speaker 2: the and the piece you ran before you and I

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Speaker 2: started talking here, listening to to Putin's position as far

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Speaker 2: as uh, you know, the viewing the the what he

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Speaker 2: views is escalation on the on behalf of the Ukrainians.

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Speaker 2: I look, there's two sides to it. Always the Ukrainians

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Speaker 2: feel the same way. But you're right about the Ukrainians

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Speaker 2: fighting for their their homeland and their survival. Again, if

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Speaker 2: you go back over history, you know, the especially those

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Speaker 2: eastern provinces that are very Russian oriented, and it's the

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Speaker 2: lines are not so clear, unfortunately, but I think that

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Speaker 2: somebody has to stop shooting and the other hopefully will respond,

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Speaker 2: and it probably will take sanctions, of severe sanctions.

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Speaker 8: To make that happen.

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Speaker 2: You make a great point about the Europeans still buying

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Speaker 2: Russian oil and gas so and in fact they are

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Speaker 2: fueling the conflict.

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Speaker 12: So it's complicated.

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Speaker 2: It's just something I hope that you know, we don't

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Speaker 2: find find our own country drug into It's happened before.

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Speaker 12: I hope it doesn't happen again.

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Speaker 6: Well, and this became a huge issue.

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Speaker 1: So I just got back from Europe, met with Prime

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Speaker 1: Minister Victor Orbon and had the opportunity to meet the

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Speaker 1: now President elect of Poland. And one of the things

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Speaker 1: that Victor Orbon said during our meeting and I asked

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Speaker 1: him about this regarding the regarding the negotiations, and he's tried,

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Speaker 1: and folks remember, and he took a lot of a

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Speaker 1: lot of flak for this and a lot of criticism

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Speaker 1: because he went to the Ukrainians in Kiev and he

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Speaker 1: also went to the Russians in Moscow when Hungary held

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Speaker 1: the head of the European Commission and he was a

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Speaker 1: president of it last year, and he said, look, we

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Speaker 1: want peace on both sides, but unfortunately both sides were

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Speaker 1: telling him that we believe that we're winning. So we

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Speaker 1: went to the Russians and he said, they said, we're winning.

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Speaker 1: We believe, we have time on our side. And then

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Speaker 1: he went to the Ukrainians and they said, we believe

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Speaker 1: we're winning and we have time on our side. And

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Speaker 1: this just goes to show you that it really feels

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Speaker 1: like there's a lot of for calcitrans on both sides,

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Speaker 1: a lot of galvanization obviously, as happens with these types

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Speaker 1: of wars, but there's just no appetite even in place

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Speaker 1: like Poland, where my family's from. But even in that election,

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Speaker 1: if those results show there isn't an appetite even for

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Speaker 1: them who have a lot of reasons to not be

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Speaker 1: fans of Russia a true enemy or adversary, I guess

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Speaker 1: in a classical sense.

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Speaker 6: But they don't want to go to war either, and

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Speaker 6: that's really what this comes down to.

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Speaker 2: Oh No, I think you're absolutely right, and I think

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Speaker 2: you uh, you know, history tells us that when you

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Speaker 2: have these kind of ongoing back and forth conflict at

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Speaker 2: a certain level, it's just a matter of some miscalculation

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Speaker 2: and pretty soon you're in something really really major. And

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Speaker 2: we have to remember, of course that uh, the Russians

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Speaker 2: have what is a four thousand nuclear weapons uh, and

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Speaker 2: we just have to always keep that in mind.

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Speaker 6: And I think that I think that the Europeans.

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Speaker 2: Are going to have to come to their own conclusions

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Speaker 2: about the fact that that there has to be peace.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Russia is a much larger country than Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: Jeff quick that thought, because I want to I want

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Speaker 1: to unpack this in.

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Speaker 6: The next segment.

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Speaker 1: The European angle on all of this is so important

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Speaker 1: All right, Jack Pasobic here back, final segment of the week.

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Speaker 1: Pretty eventful week, that's to be said. And not only

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Speaker 1: the sparks flying in Washington, DC, but the actual missile's

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Speaker 1: flying and the drones flying between Ukraine and Russia.

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Speaker 6: We're on live Real America's Voice in the Salem Radio Network.

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Speaker 1: We're on with Jeff Web, business entrepreneur and CEO of

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Speaker 1: the Human Events Media Group. Jeff during the break you

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Speaker 1: said something that I really want to unpack for the audience.

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Speaker 6: And we were talking and we had mentioned.

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Speaker 1: Before about Steve Whitcoff and his business background, and this

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Speaker 1: is something where he's faced a lot of criticism. People

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Speaker 1: have said, how can President Trump appoint a businessman to

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Speaker 1: go and deal with all of these issues? And he's

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Speaker 1: obviously not just involved in Ukraine, Russia, but Israel, Gaza,

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Speaker 1: involved in these Iran negotiations, nuclear weapons, all of these things.

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Speaker 1: They say, this guy's not an expert, he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: any background.

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Speaker 6: In these things.

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Speaker 1: Jeff, is having a business background actually an advantage in

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Speaker 1: some of these negotiations as opposed to a disadvantage as

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Speaker 1: the media would have us believe.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think it definitely can be.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think steems an amazing job so far,

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Speaker 2: by the way, and you know, just having been involved

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Speaker 2: in a lot of business negotiations and transactions, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I think your point Jack about not bringing in some

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Speaker 2: ideological position that perhaps puts you in a difficult place

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Speaker 2: as far as giving and taking, and you know, you're

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Speaker 2: just kind of blinded to some extent sometimes. And I

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Speaker 2: think when you bring somebody.

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Speaker 12: Like whitcough in who Trump says, I want you to

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Speaker 12: make this deal.

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Speaker 2: Well, you can always get the advice of diplomats and

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Speaker 2: experts and mil Oh I can get all that, but

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Speaker 2: he's charged with how do I do the give and

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Speaker 2: tank here? How do I really find out what is

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Speaker 2: the most important thing to each party? How do I

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Speaker 2: find out what they could give a little bit on.

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Speaker 2: How do I try to try to change it so

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Speaker 2: that maybe it's a different approach and they can live

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Speaker 2: with that. That's what true negotiation is. It's very difficult,

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Speaker 2: and it's very difficult, especially now you're not only dealing

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Speaker 2: with money, like in business, you are dealing with politics

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Speaker 2: and sometimes religion.

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Speaker 12: When you get to the Middle East. It's a tough job.

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Speaker 2: And I think somebody with that kind of business background

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Speaker 2: is I think, is the right kind of person to

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Speaker 2: lead those negotiations. Ultimately, you only have to look back,

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Speaker 2: frankly at the you know, at the previous administration with

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Speaker 2: Anthony Blincoln and Jake Sullivan, and it's very difficult to

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Speaker 2: really identify anything that they got accomplished in all four years.

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Speaker 2: We did end up with a couple of wars. Well

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Speaker 2: they were in charge.

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Speaker 12: Not blaming them, but they just weren't effective.

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Speaker 2: And I think Seve Wikoff already has been more more

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Speaker 2: effective than they were in their four years.

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Speaker 1: Well you know, actually when so when secret jar Besson

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Speaker 1: had me on another businessman by the way coming in,

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Speaker 1: had me on that train to Kiev back in February,

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Speaker 1: and we were so we were on the presidential car

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Speaker 1: and they were telling us.

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Speaker 6: They said, oh, this was the same car that that

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Speaker 6: Biden had used.

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Speaker 1: And we were on the this this this sort of

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Speaker 1: conference room car that they had on the back of

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Speaker 1: the train, and they said, and Jake Sullivan was here too,

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Speaker 1: And so I asked the attendant, you know, sort of

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Speaker 1: like a conductor, and I said, so, which which seat

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Speaker 1: did Jake Sullivan city say?

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Speaker 6: Is this one right here? I said, all right, I'm

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Speaker 6: not going to sit there.

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Speaker 1: On the trade and Secretary Bessett like and I appreciate

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Speaker 1: too the way that he came at this. And obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know, the deal hasn't quite gone the way that

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people were hoping. But he

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Speaker 1: offered this, this mineral deal to Ukraine in terms of

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Speaker 1: economic interest, said and this has been something President Trump

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Speaker 1: again as this businessman looking at it and say, look,

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Speaker 1: we want to get something out of this. We put

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Speaker 1: so much in, and if Ukraine's not going to be

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Speaker 1: able to refund these loans, then perhaps there is something

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Speaker 1: that we can get in terms of these rare earth

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Speaker 1: minerals or some of the other mineral rights out of there.

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Speaker 1: That's just how a businessman thinks. That's not how anyone

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Speaker 1: in Washington, DC thinks, though, is it.

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Speaker 6: No, it's not.

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Speaker 2: And I think the other thing about that positioning was

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Speaker 2: that and this is a kind of a longer term play.

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Speaker 2: But you know, when you have countries that are doing

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Speaker 2: business with each other, when you've got industries that are

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Speaker 2: interacting within the two countries, I don't really as much.

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Speaker 2: And so I think just starting starting that process, getting

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Speaker 2: in business with them, having.

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Speaker 12: More say and what they do, and the same thing

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Speaker 12: with Russia. I mean we I think that we should

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Speaker 12: be looking for ways.

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Speaker 2: I know that sounds almost like heresy to some people,

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Speaker 2: but we should be looking for ways to be doing

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Speaker 2: business with all of these countries and perhaps you can

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Speaker 2: you can break the cycle of these kind of facilities.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what it is. I think that's what

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Speaker 1: it all is about, folks. This is Jeff web we're

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Speaker 1: just about out of time here for the program or

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Speaker 1: the week. Jeff, shout out your book again so that

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Speaker 1: everyone understands how they can learn a little bit more

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Speaker 1: about this for themselves as well.

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Speaker 12: You know, it's uh you can find that on Amazon.

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Speaker 12: It's it's all about the middle class, which is uh

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Speaker 12: what I grow up in and.

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Speaker 2: Different things that I think, Uh I just kind of

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Speaker 2: practical knowledge. It's called American restoration.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, ladies and gentlemen, has always have her permission to

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Speaker 1: lay assured