1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Ron and Nannian, they get behind the product that, um, 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: there's no parts for it. It just doesn't make any sense. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: Well down the road at eight the car Doctor. You're 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: telling me, brother that you brought you brought your truck 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: to three shops. They can all hear a problem and 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: all three of them are saying they can't fix it. 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Nannian the 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners the world 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: you're a mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: the phone and call in the garage. Doors are open, 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your calls. At eight 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: five five and now he running. How do you know 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: that used car you're looking at her? Maybe that uber 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: you're writing in is actually safe? In the car Doctor, 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: welcome a boarding standby. We've got a great couple of 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: hours automotive talk for you today. You know I noticed 18 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: that this week in the shop. I was thinking about it. 19 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: It doesn't happen often, but once in a while I'll 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: let somebody bring us tire tires and will mount their tires. 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: Tires are sort of this they're not. They're not a 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: part in my mind in the sense of liability. It's 23 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: it's a tire, it's a it's it's there's there's tire manufacturers, 24 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: there's tire companies. It's easier to go through the tire 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: company is to find a guy that made the water 26 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,919 Speaker 1: pump in China that they're trying to get you to install. 27 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: So it's a little bit of a softer liability factor. 28 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: So Will brought us two tires this week to put 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: on his Honda Accord. And um, you know, Will's up 30 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: an infrequent customer. There's no other way to say it. 31 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: We see him once every twelve, fourteen, eighteen months. I'm 32 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: not sure why. Um, the car just seems to pile 33 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,919 Speaker 1: up mileage. But he's an uber driver. He's he's um 34 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: uh you know when he's he's driving this hundred sixties 35 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: now hundred six five thousand Honda Chord, and he likes 36 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: to try and do his own repairs save a few bucks. 37 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: And I get it. Everybody's out to save a buck. 38 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that. But he brought us a 39 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: pair of tires today Solar this week, Solar so high. Um, 40 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: some cockamamie name that you just don't recognize. And I 41 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: had to go through it with him, and and you 42 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: know he had gotten them online. It was it was 43 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: from one of the major tire online purchasers. So that 44 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: made me feel good because at least that there's a failure, 45 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: we can go back and see the tire retailer. It's 46 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: not like they came direct from China, but you know, 47 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: made in China right on the side, no name brand, 48 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: and they rode terrible. They wrote absolutely terrible. I think 49 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: he would have been better rough riding around with steel 50 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: wheels and just no rubber on the road. It was 51 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: just that bad of a tire. And this is on 52 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: dry road. I can't even imagine what it's gonna be 53 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: like on on on on a wet road. But you know, 54 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: maybe I'm looking for too much. I don't know. But 55 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: my point becomes, there's a lot of people like Will 56 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: out there that are picking their own brands of part 57 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: and tires and you know, oh, this looks good and 58 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: and we'll try this, and it says new and it's online. 59 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: Online makes it good. Right. The internet can solve everything. 60 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for the internet to bring us world peace, 61 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: secure for cancer and time travel and then all our 62 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 1: problems are over, um, you know. And then I thought 63 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: about the fact that he's an Uber driver, and I 64 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: get it that he's trying to maintain his car for Uberville. 65 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: But the sad part is he really needed four tires. 66 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: It wasn't just two. And I imagine, like some people 67 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: will has that mindset of let me just put two 68 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: tires on it. I'll burn them up, it won't really matter. 69 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: Um round black holes there, who cares. And the back 70 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: two tires were you know, they weren't the slicks that 71 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: the fronts were, which I mean the tire The front 72 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: tires were probably bad three months ago and he's just 73 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: getting around the change in them now. So you know, 74 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: how much further is he gonna push the rears? And 75 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: I'm thinking somebody's gonna get in this car as an 76 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: Uber driver or as an Uber writer and say, you know, 77 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: take me wherever and and and assume it's safe. And 78 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: it made me think in my mind, you know, I 79 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: think Uber needs to come up with a certification program. 80 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: And I looked on their website and I didn't see 81 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: anything listed. I think Uber needs to certify their cars 82 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: or mechanically sound because who regulates that? And I was 83 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: thinking about this. You know, don't laugh if you're from 84 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: New York City and you're listening to the show. But 85 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: at least a New York City taxi cab kind of 86 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: has to meet certain standards, right. It's it's it's it's 87 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: gotta it's gotta be yellow. Um, it's it's got to 88 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: have that obligatory debt and defender. Uh, you know that 89 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: sort of makes it a New York City taxi. It's 90 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: gotta have the grill kind of duct taped in. But mechanically, yeah, 91 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: it's got three hundred thousand miles on it. I've been 92 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: in a few taxis that I wondered if I was 93 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: gonna get out of one piece. But you gotta feel 94 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: like you hope somebody's working on it. It occurred to 95 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: me Uber is counting on the driver, counting on the 96 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: mechanic working on it. But what if the mechanic working 97 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: on it, like we all know, there's bad mechanics. What 98 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: if he's an idiot and now he's maintaining this Uber 99 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: vehicle and how safe is that Uber? And then he 100 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: goes to sell that Uber vehicle and you go to 101 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: buy it, and you look at it as the consumer 102 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: and you say, well, the tires around black they haul there. 103 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: It stops, it starts, it moves. It makes the case 104 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: for having a mechanic look at it that much more 105 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: more important, and that that much of a stronger argument 106 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: that the Internet has empowered people with more information, but 107 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: not necessarily the right information, and their their their skill 108 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: set and their level of knowledge. Just it's not there. 109 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: Don't don't count on the Internet to solve all your 110 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: problems information but question that information to Hello and welcome 111 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: Ronny of the Car Doctor here at zero. Let's so 112 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: that any further ado. Let's kick the garage doors open, 113 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: and let's go to well, let's go to Peton, Minnesota 114 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: with an eleven key of Pete. Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. 115 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: How can I help? Yeah? Hi u um so, yeah, 116 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: we have two thousand eleven Kia Sorento V six three 117 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: point five leader and about a week ago I started 118 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: her up, started her up, and uh enginely came on 119 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: and started uh shaking a little bit not bad, but 120 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: a little bit eling kind of rough. Sounds like this 121 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: sounds like that scene from Airplane. She's starting to shake right, 122 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: she's started, she's starting to show me. Um, that's exactly 123 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: what it was happening. Yeah, and uh yeah. So I 124 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: took it right over there to O'Reilly's and had him 125 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: scan it and uh um I got a P two 126 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: um running lean in bank one and um. But then 127 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: the curious thing for me is, um, it's leaving black 128 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: foot out the tail pipe, which would mean it's running. 129 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: Rich didn't do that right? Well, stood out the tell pipe. 130 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: It's it's right, So it could be a lean condition 131 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: trying to trying to be overcome with a rich command. Uma. 132 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: So you know, regardless, have you looked at fuel trim 133 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: do you have the ability to do scan data? And 134 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: I have not done that. Well basically, I just uh, 135 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: that's all I've done so far other than out of paranoia. 136 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: I went out and got one of those head gasket 137 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: weak tests you know with the tube and you you 138 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: put it yeah, and that came back fine. So other 139 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: than that, that's all I've done. So let me let 140 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: me say it like this, Um, how old are you Pete? Uh? Okay, 141 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: so when you turn sixty, you're gonna go get that 142 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: physical right, You're probably gonna get you know the finger 143 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: and the and the look see and you know nine 144 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: yards right, but you're not going to do that now, 145 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: So don't do the head gas get tests now, not yet. 146 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: You're jumping the gun, all right because you're not sixty yet. 147 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: Um as as as the third Marine said, as they 148 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: were going over the side of the ship at e Wo, 149 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: let's wait till we get there to see if we're 150 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: gonna die, all right? So um and and I kind 151 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: of know that from someone who was there. He was 152 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: he was third Marines at e Wo when it was 153 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: and that he was a tough old son of a gun. 154 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: He told me the whole story. But yeah, it was 155 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 1: he was third wave. Um. So let's go through basics. 156 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: Do you have a scan tool? Do you have the 157 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: ability to read data stream? Okay? So on the Christmas 158 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: list this year, we gotta get a scan tool. And 159 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: the idea the idea here is that you're you're you know, 160 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: it's seeing lean fuel a lean fuel condition, um uh 161 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: at and on bank one all right, and not to 162 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: say that we want to just focus on bank one. 163 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: And here's where you're not having a scan tool hurts us. 164 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: A lean fuel condition by definition, let's let's start the 165 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: conversation here. Zero percent is a balanced fuel mixture. Okay, 166 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: it's it's the correct amount of air to the correct 167 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: amount of fuel agreed if the system, you know, the 168 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: system has to have the ability to vary and adjust 169 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: a little bit. So Pete's driving down the road, he's 170 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: going down to the local seven eleven, you know, to 171 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: get a hot dog on a soda, a big slurpee, 172 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: and you know, while he's driving along, maybe the fuel 173 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: trim changes a little bit. It adds a little bit 174 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: of fuel, it takes away a little bit of fuel. 175 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: It's it's, it's it's it's got some tuning capability without 176 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: falling out the parameter or the limit of what's bad. 177 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: So you might see plus or minus eight percent either way, 178 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: all right, Just like just like in high school when 179 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: they taught us geometry and we we had that numbered 180 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: timeline and had zero and plus numbers and negative numbers, 181 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: and we all said, what what's this? What's this you know, 182 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: numbered line going to teach us? It teaches us fuel 183 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: trim thirty years later. So you know, plus or minus 184 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: eight percent, plus or minus ten percent, that's good. When 185 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: the when when when the trim number hits that you 186 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: can hear. I got Lucy and studio with me today. 187 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: She scratching. Um, you know I can't get all these 188 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: answers myself. I gotta count the dog, so so you 189 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: know if it's plus. When it hits plus, for conversation's sake, 190 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: the computer goes, hey, Pete's Kia is at its electronic 191 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: limit of adjustment. I've got to tell Pete that it's 192 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: working too hard to maintain fuel mixture. And a balance 193 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: turns on the check engine light and sets a fault code. Right, 194 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: So if we had a scan tool and we looked 195 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: at it and we saw on Bank one and on 196 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: Bank two, it's not gonna set a fault for bank too, 197 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: is it, because it's got three percent to go. But 198 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: if if normal accepted industry balanced air fuel mixture by 199 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: trim numbers is zero to ten percent plus or minus 200 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: Bank two, sounds like it's a little cock git also, right, 201 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: So here's where we need to scan tool, because I 202 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: can't tell you to chase Bank one bank to both 203 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: one neither. Um. You know, this could be anything from 204 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: a restriction on the air and takes side to low 205 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: fuel pressure to a vacuum leak on a particular manifold 206 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: side to you know, a week, lots of lots of things, 207 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: lots of things. Um, you know, so you did the 208 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: right first step. You you scanned it, okay, um, and 209 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: that that's the first step looking at codes. But now 210 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: we got to go and look at the rest of it. Now. 211 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: You know, you've you've you've told me that your head 212 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: hurts and you've got a headache. Now you've got to 213 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: get me heart rate, blood pressure and the rest of 214 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: the information, and then we could have the rest of 215 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: the conversation. Okay, all right, So but that's that's where 216 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: you want to go. You want to find something. Yeah, 217 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: and and listen, I don't want I don't I don't 218 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: want to take it to somebody. And you know, they 219 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: look up fulture, they look up the code seven and 220 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: the first thing on the chart is this could be 221 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: caused by a And the first thing on the list 222 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: is an oxygen sensor. Need an oxygen sensor. Yeah, that's 223 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: not what we're talking about, all right. The first thing 224 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 1: you need is a diagnosis, all right. So so hang 225 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: in there, kid Hill, all right, and uh yeah, no, 226 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: uh no, uh you know, no head guests it's yet. 227 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: All right, let's let's let's not play all right, think 228 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: of think of that Marin's brother. All right, you take 229 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: good care and have a good rest of the weekend. 230 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: Take care byde I'm runing aading the car doctor. We 231 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: are back right after this. Need advice on how to 232 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: maintain that classic g t O. Ron is the guy 233 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: five five five zero nine zero zero. Here's by the way. 234 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: Next week, next week, let me look at the grinch. 235 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: Let me see what he looks like. Yep. Tom says 236 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: next week that we're going to be giving away copies 237 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: of O O B D two Diagnostics made Easy by 238 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: one of our favorite authors, Steve Cook from I think Cincinnati. Um, 239 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: we've got a couple of copies of that will be 240 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: handing out from the prize closet, and Toma check is 241 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: find out where Steve is from. But Stephen Cook, you've 242 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: been trying to find him up on Amazon. We were 243 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: able to pry a couple of copies out of Steve's 244 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: hand and we'll be sending those out so you can 245 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: call them next week. Um, and you have to get 246 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: past Tom and make Tom smile. Anybody can make Tom 247 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: smile next week? Uh, they're in the running for a book, 248 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: so if they can do that, then, uh, you know, 249 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: that's all possible. So let's get out over and talk 250 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: to Let's let's go talk to Stephen new Hampshire. Stephen 251 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: new Hampshire, Sir, oh for Chevy taha how can I help? Yes, right, yes, sir, afternoon, Yes, sir, 252 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:50,479 Speaker 1: good afternoon, excellent. UM took my Chevy Tahoe off offline 253 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: for about four months earlier this summer replaced the front 254 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: iff um both Axel's hubs the whole while I was 255 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: in there, and recently, uh recently is last week I 256 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: got the opportunity to, you know, test out the four 257 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: wheel drive. It's running great. I put it used differential 258 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: and that I got from the junk yard. And question 259 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: for you though, is I don't remember this happening on 260 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: the previous differential, but this uh system seems to have 261 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: a mind of its own. It will shift from two 262 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: wheel high into four wheel UM high or four wheel low. 263 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: Any ideas, um, dumb question, how do you know? And 264 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: I know the answer you're gonna give me, but I 265 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: want to hear you say it. How do you know? Um, 266 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: there's a four wheel drive switch up by the left 267 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: side of the event and you're seeing the lights change exactly. Okay, 268 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: Now do you feel the truck change as far as 269 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: um like like a shutter, Like there's like all of 270 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: a sudden you're driving along at forty in two wheel 271 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: drive and all of a sudden it slams into a 272 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: four wheel drive. Is there isn't exact change or you're 273 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: just seeing the lots on the dish. It doesn't do 274 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: it when when I'm driving at forty fifty or highway speed. 275 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: It will do it when I leave the office, stop 276 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: the vehicle up, put it from park into drive, and 277 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: I'll look down the other day and I'm like, I 278 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: was actually driving around the city of Nashville, just you know, 279 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: run a few errands, and I'm like, this feels like 280 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: it's in full wheel drive, because sure enough, I looked 281 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: down and the auto four wheel drive light is on. 282 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if this system is that intelligent, the 283 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: technology was there for an O four, or we have 284 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: this thing as a mind of its own. Now that 285 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: the differential that you replaced it with, you verified numbers 286 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: models the same, same, same generation, And if I recall 287 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: and O four, there are no is there an actuator 288 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: in the front of this differential or not. I believe 289 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: there is. Yes, and you swapped You swapped the differential 290 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: or you pulled the differential. I'm sorry you swapped the actuator. 291 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: Used your actuator or the actuator that was in the axle? Uh, 292 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: the actual wator that was in the axle? Do you 293 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: still have the old one? I do? I save everything. 294 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm looking pack raft. That's okay, I kind of I'm 295 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: kind of like that myself. Um, and they look the same. 296 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: Your harness plugged in, no issues, okay. So the first 297 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: thing you really need to do is scan it for codes, 298 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: and not with an O b D two scanner. Here's 299 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: here's a case where you need to use your Make model. 300 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: Here's a perfect example of why an O b D 301 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: two scanner won't work because is a vehicle going into 302 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: four wheel driving? I'm gonna let you answer the question. 303 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: Is a vehicle going into four wheel drive and likely 304 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: going to affect federal emission levels? No? So therefore, under 305 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: the law, it's not required to be made available under 306 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: O b D two scan capability. So here's a case 307 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: where you need year Make model to go in. You know, 308 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: do we have anything in the way of a transfer 309 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: case and coder motor? You know, could this be a coincidence? 310 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: Could this be something just totally unrelated to the front 311 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: differential replacement, or do we have a fault with the 312 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: actuator that's in the front differential that you swapped over. 313 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: You know, if the actuators are the same. You know 314 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: you want to and you want to try to. You 315 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: want to try and take the shortcut. It's easy enough 316 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: to swamp swap your actuator in. You know your actuator worked. 317 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that you know you probably spun one of 318 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: the carrier bearings in the front of your old differential 319 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: and it was noisy right well about the steel the 320 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: steel cup bearings um uh tend to spin in the 321 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: aluminum housing just asn't aside before the clock takes me 322 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: real quick? Is um just be aware, uh, Steve that 323 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: you can um there's a product out there from Luke uh. 324 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: I can't think of their name, but it's called Huboil. 325 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the name and I'm I'm gonna talk 326 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: about it on there. It's called Huboil, um uh, and 327 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: we put it in the We put it in those 328 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: aluminum older GM dips, and it tends to give a 329 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: better heat sheer strength to the fluid and protects the 330 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: differentials more. I'll talk about it in the next half hour. 331 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: I'll go look it up on line when you get 332 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: a chance to a computer. But you might want to 333 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: add that to it too for further protection. I'm running 334 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: any of the Car Doctor. We're back right after this. 335 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back Running of the Car Doctor. Here at eight 336 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: five zero zero. Let's go over to Joe in Manchester, Connecticut, 337 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 1: Oh six four escape Joe. Welcome to the Car Doctor, Sir, 338 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: how can I help? How you doing? Uh? I have 339 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: a two thousand six UH for the escape and the problem. 340 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: The problem is, UH, I think it's in the alarm 341 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: system somewhere. If I leave the car locked, UH, the 342 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: alarm goes off about every twenty minutes and UH, and 343 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: all the dome lights are coming on also, So what 344 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: I did? I pulled all the dome lights out and UH, 345 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: I still have the same problem with it going off 346 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: every twenty minutes. So I'm wondering if it's somewhere in 347 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: the alarm system. I'm thinking about pulling the fuse out 348 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: for that well, let's let's let's do this, okay. So 349 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: within this vehicle there is something called a GEM module. 350 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: And I know we could all sit there and say 351 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: this car is such a GYM but um, but it 352 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: stands for Generic Electronic Module and a GEM module on 353 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: a four product. It's kind of like a body module 354 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: on a lot of other cars. And the GEM module 355 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: does a lot of the body functions. They'll they'll they'll 356 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: run information for locks and alarms and you know, other 357 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: body function requirements through this module. If if your mechanic 358 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: can get in there all right with his scan tool, 359 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: and his scan tool can look at the GEM module, 360 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: and a lot of the aftermarket or even obviously the 361 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: Ford factory tool would do it. You could look at 362 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: the GEM module and look to see are there any 363 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: fauld codes? Alright? This is probably being caused by a 364 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: sticking or stuck door, a jar or even a hood 365 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: if it has hooded jar, um, a hooded jar switch alright, 366 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: or a switch out of adjustment all right, um, And 367 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: the fact that the dome lights are coming on tells 368 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: me it's it's really a door a jar switch. So 369 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: the question is which one? Alright, A GEM module will 370 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 1: tell us a couple of things. If we do a 371 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: scan of that, it'll tell us, you know, maybe there's 372 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: a code pointing towards the left front, right, left ar, 373 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: et cetera. Door. It will also tell us there's also 374 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: going to be a line of information in there called 375 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: alarm event data, and it will tell us UM because 376 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: it tracks every the JEM module tracks every alarm event, 377 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: and if the scan tool can look at that GEM module, 378 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: it'll tell you which door switch caused the alarm to 379 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: go off. You know, do you have a do you 380 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: have an alarm system on your house, Joe? And you 381 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: know how when the alarm goes off, you call it 382 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: the alarm company and the guy I'll come out and 383 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: he'll access the button panel and I'll say, hey, Joe, 384 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: the master bedroom upstairs window, the switch is sticky right, 385 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: or the or the switch goes bed. The GEM module 386 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: does the exact same thing, and it'll it'll track that 387 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: and it'll tell it, Hey, this is where we gotta go. Now. 388 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: In the event that for some reason there's no codes, 389 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: or you can't get into the gym module, or the 390 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: gym module doesn't provide any information UM, the fact that 391 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: the dome lights go on tells me that it's it's 392 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: it's body or rear hatch, you know, the rear gate 393 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: related um switch. So you could try, you know, the 394 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: alarm goes off, go out, lean on a door, you know, 395 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: just give a door, put your weight against the door, 396 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: um and see that does the dome lights start to 397 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: go out? Because you may have delayed lighting where it 398 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: doesn't go out right away. It's not that the car 399 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: has broken. The car thinks the door is trying to 400 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: has tried to become open, and pushing on the door 401 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: may at least turn off the door a jar or 402 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: the light rather the dome light. It won't necessarily turn 403 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: off the alarm right away, but at least it tells you, Hey, 404 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: you know I pushed in on the right rear door. 405 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: The dome light went out. You know what, I've got 406 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: to get a right rear door switch. Okay, all right, okay, 407 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: where would the GEM module that? Uh? But I believe 408 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: it's down driver's side, underneath the dashboard in the left 409 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: kick panel area. But it's it's it's he's gonna access it. 410 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: They're gonna access it through the O B D two 411 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: diagnostic port. All right, you know, so if they can 412 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: get into the O b D two diagnostic connector um 413 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: and they've got something that you know, does your make 414 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: model not just O b D two generic, then you know, 415 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: scanned out of Then you're you're You're in like flint. 416 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: You're all set, so great, Okay, okay, Well, thank you 417 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: Ron to help. You're very welcome, sir. If you need more, 418 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: we're right here for you. You You take good care. Let's 419 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: go to Terry in Michigan and let's see what's going 420 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: on here. Terry, Welcome to the car doctor. How can 421 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: I help? Hey? Ron? Yes, Um, I appreciate you. And 422 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: I normally said listen to your little Sundays even though 423 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: you recorded home Sundays. But two thousand, the say bro 424 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: and and and my heat started started going out only 425 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, and uh back for us 426 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: my core, right, I heard you say that. Also, Uh, 427 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: I can't sad it's wearing herd on inside degrees. And 428 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: then my actuator valve was kind of floating a little bit, 429 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: so I kind of set a screw driver in it 430 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: and got it um to the heat mode. But I'm 431 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: still getting heat and then it goes cold again cold? 432 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: What first? Let me ask a couple of questions, what 433 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: how do you know it's a hundred degrees? Well, my, my, 434 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta do agread out on my thumb 435 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: sat and that reason hunt night side. Yes you have 436 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: you have a digital readout on your thumb set. Yes 437 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: on my car. Yes, on the temperature control you mean 438 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: on the temperature gauge. Okay, okay, so so. And if 439 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: you touch the upper radiator hose when it reads a 440 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: hundred degrees, it's it's warm to the point of being 441 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: uncomfortable to hold onto. Correct. And when you touch one 442 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: of the heater hoses, at least one of the heater 443 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: hoses feels as warm as the upper radiater hose. No, 444 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: no stars, That's why I'm back. Plus my heater core okay, 445 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: is either one of the heater hoses as warm as 446 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: the radiator hose. Now that I am not ed, you know, 447 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: because I mean, listen, it's gotta be it's gotta be 448 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: hot in and and cooler out. So you might you 449 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: might have your hand on the on the exit line 450 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: versus you know, versus the feed. You might have your 451 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: hand on the outlet, not the inlet now, but let's 452 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: just talk past that a little bit. So let's let's 453 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: get to the point where, Okay, the radiator hose the 454 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: car is hot, the heater hose is hot, the the 455 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: outlets cooler, and you're driving along. You've got good heat. 456 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: Your definition of good heat terry is gauged by what 457 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: your hand in front of the heater. Not Now, it's 458 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: not good. It's just walks. Not good. Heat will be 459 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: froll me in Michigan, so you will defrost file windshi. However, 460 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: it's not hot. Okay, yeah, let's do me a favorite. 461 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: Do you have a do you have an O Rillyoto 462 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: parts by you about twenty down the road, you know, 463 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: jump jump jump jump in there you can or if 464 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: if there's something closer, pick up you know, spend ten 465 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: bucks pick up a an in dash temperature thermometer, the 466 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: vent thing. I heard you say that. Yeah, only did 467 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: not do that because is not hot? Right? But I 468 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,239 Speaker 1: just well, and here's what But here's why I want 469 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: you to do that, because I hate to gauge myself 470 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: by well, I think it's cool or I think it's cool. 471 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: I want to know how much it's dropping you're saying, 472 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: you're saying, it's never hot. How hot is not hot? Um? 473 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: But dot's go cold? I mean code is in the 474 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: air is actually like cool cool, but it starts but 475 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: it starts warmer, right, all right? This get warm that 476 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: this's not yet hot as as as it would normally 477 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: do as last year it just started this here. But 478 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: but but here's not going to be the actuator vowl 479 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: is the activated vow? Is that possible? The piece under 480 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: the dashboard? Sure? Absolutely, that was in the it's in 481 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: the glove box, right. My actual was about in the 482 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: glove But but before we go there, kiddo, um, before 483 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: we go there, let's because it will help in diagnosis, 484 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: all right, because you're telling me it goes cold actuator valves. 485 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: You know, temperature actuators don't really change position on their own. 486 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: If they do, they're being driven there, all right. What 487 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm what I'm concerned about is, you know, I need 488 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: I need to get a better feel no pun intended 489 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: for the temperature of this in terms of in terms 490 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: of heat, what's really going on temperature wise? Because what 491 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: I'd like to know is when you're talking about and 492 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: if I'm hearing, you're right, it starts out warm, never 493 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: great and then it goes cold. And what I'm thinking 494 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: about is do you have a seeping head gasket? Are 495 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: you are you putting air into the system? Are you 496 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: using any coolant? Are you seeing a variation in coolant 497 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: level in either the radiator or the overflow bottle? The 498 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: next morning, but before I take you there, go buy 499 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 1: a thermometer. Coming back next week, give me some actual 500 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: numbers and let's talk about I want to know how 501 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: widespread of a temperature range we're talking about, and then 502 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: we can continue this conversation. Get yourself out to a 503 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: local orillyot to parts. I'm Rondandy in the car doctor. 504 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this. Welcome back right in 505 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: the guard doctorless government talk to Renee in Houston. Renee, 506 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: welcome to the car doctor. How can I help? Yes, 507 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: I have a question for UH, for the guys on 508 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:06,239 Speaker 1: the radio, and I took my car in and had 509 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: a wheelbaring replaced. Will they replaced the long one? I 510 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: what I really need now is a front end UH 511 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: change of rotors and the brakes. And I was just 512 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: wondering how they would handle something like that. So the 513 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: question here becomes, when you took it into the shop, 514 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: what did tell me what happened. What transpired? You went 515 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: up and you talk to the service writer at the counter. 516 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: One of their mechanics drive with me and there was 517 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: a home and he thought it was coming from the 518 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: rear everything like that. Well, I get it and they 519 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: replaced the front one and I drove it after I 520 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: got it back, thinking it was all taken care of, 521 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: and it wasn't. The homes and the manager or the 522 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: assistant manager wrote in me, I says, here that home. 523 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: That's why I brought it in. So I didn't change 524 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: it at all. So it's not like the front one 525 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: was going now right, So so did you you know, 526 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: did we Did they go through? I would, I would 527 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: expect they would. Did they go through? You know, hey, 528 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: Renae's here her cars making this noise, the noises from 529 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,239 Speaker 1: the front replaced front wheel bearing. They gave you an 530 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: estimate and you signed it. Yeah. Um, I don't know 531 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: about the estimate, but I just um, they gave me 532 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: a rough estimate of what it costs for front will bearing, 533 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: which the rear will bearing, which is really the one 534 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: that was going out, it costs less. So the front 535 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: one was three dollars and then the back one was 536 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: like two hundred and seventy five dollars and what kind 537 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: of cars I didn't need? I didn't need the front one? 538 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 1: What kind of cars? It's a two thousand six Chevy 539 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: Malibu Max hundred ninety thousand miles, just broken in. Um, 540 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: I know it good for three hundred doll and I 541 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: like my car. It's a great car, but I love it. 542 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: But you know what I really need now is I 543 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: need to have the rotors and a front break job. 544 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: Because I said, yeah, you're going to need that, and 545 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: I knew I needed that, but I was thinking of 546 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: asking them take it back to the same place and 547 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: give them a chance to remedy there. Let me ask 548 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,479 Speaker 1: you this, Are they your regular mechanics Have you been 549 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: there before? It was? It was a new mechanics shop 550 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: I went to. They had very good reviews and they're 551 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: always busy, so obviously people are using them. And the 552 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: manager was very nice and he was like, you know, 553 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: oh gee, sorry, you know what do you say. They're 554 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: not going to say, oh, yeah, we replaced their own part, 555 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: and I get that, but I want them to take 556 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: the labor from that job, and the labor of the 557 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: changing the rotors and the brakes, and I will pay 558 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: for the parts as a remedy. Tell them that you know, 559 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: and is that is that appropriate? Or is that you know? 560 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: You know because they screwed up and they're not going 561 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: to sit there and say, hey, we screwed up. Well, 562 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: from what you're telling me, they changed. They changed both 563 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: wheel bearings, front end back on one side. They changed 564 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: the front when it did not remit it. The real 565 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: problem was the rear one. And then they changed free 566 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: will being I'll pay for the part, but I want 567 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: you to apply the labor of that to the job 568 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: of the of my break job now that I need 569 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: to get done. But here's the but here's how you 570 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: have to position it to him. Okay, is you want 571 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: to tell them listen, I'm looking for I'm looking for 572 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: a repair shop. You guys have good reviews. I came 573 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: here in good faith, you know what. Maybe there was 574 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: some miscommunication, but I was clear that I had a 575 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: noise from the car. That's what I wanted fixed. If 576 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: the miscommunication occurred, it occurred because I feel like you 577 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: guys misdiagnosed it. So how about how about we do this. 578 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: How about I'll pay for parts you guys, cover the labor. 579 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: Let's begin our relationship anew, and I'll be I'll be 580 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: with you guys from this point on. See how they 581 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: handle that, all right? And I'm not only wanting to 582 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: replace the labor of it would cost to change out 583 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: the rotors and the brakes. A break, du They said 584 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: it was like three dollars. Well, I sent three dollars 585 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: on a job I didn't need. But I have the part, 586 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: so I get the benefit. But take the labor of 587 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: that job and the labor of what it would cost 588 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: to change out the rotors and the brakes, and then 589 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: we'll I'll be happy, right and see what they do 590 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: with that, and then take it from there. Call us back, 591 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: let us know what happens. I'm run on any of 592 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: the car doctor. We'll be back right after this. Welcome back, 593 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,959 Speaker 1: We're on any of the car doctor. First of all, 594 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: let's get a couple of pieces of maintenance done. Bottom 595 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: of the hour, I was talking to a gentleman about 596 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: his four wheel drive differential and huboil. It was Lucas. 597 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: I kept wanting to say Luke oil, but I knew 598 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't Luke oil. It was Lucas. Lucas huboil. It's 599 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: a very heavy thick um heat fighting creates a very 600 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: good solid film, very good for front differentials on those 601 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: Uh that generation GM product OH four oh five with 602 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: the aluminum housing, the steel bearings day spinning the carrier. 603 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: So Lucas huboill works really well. Uh for Renee in 604 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: Houston that we just spoke to, I think there was 605 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: a little bit of confusion. I have to apologize because 606 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: I think she didn't realize she was calling the wrong 607 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,439 Speaker 1: radio show. Um, she was looking for a couple of guys. 608 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: I knew who she was looking for, but it wasn't us. 609 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: But I know we gave her solid information. Uh. Just 610 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, there's a classic example of you know, what 611 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: goes wrong. There was no communication I think there in 612 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: the repair shop. Where was the noise from? You know, 613 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: did she get did she give approval to fix the 614 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: front wheel bearing? And then did she give approval to 615 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 1: fix the rear wheel bearing? Auto repairs a process. It's 616 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: not something that's gets that that's just automatic that you 617 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: can just it can't have a life of its own, 618 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: especially not when you're using a repair shop for what 619 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: sounds like the first time you know it's it's just 620 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: like going to a doctor. After a while, you go 621 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: to a doctor and the doctor starts giving you the 622 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: you know he's gonna cut something off, but you're okay 623 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: with it because he's done it before, all right, So 624 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: you've got to equate that the same part of the 625 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: order repair process. How many times have you been there? 626 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: Have they cut things off that maybe you could have 627 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: used or maybe you didn't need um? So you've got 628 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: to ask yourself that question as well. So Renee, if 629 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: you happen to get a chance to listen to this, 630 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 1: just go back and talk to them and see what happens. 631 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 1: I'm Rodanadi in the car doctor until the next time, 632 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you