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Speaker 1: We're back with another School Stories presented by three M,

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Speaker 1: the official science partner of the Minnesota Vikings. Tonight, we

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Speaker 1: have a special guest. We're catching up with the legendary

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback Fran Targeted.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to School Stories presented by three M. Tonight's

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Speaker 2: guest is the legendary quarterback led the Vikings to three

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl appearances during their decade of dominance. He's a

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Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Famer, one of the fifty greatest Vikings,

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Speaker 2: a former League MVP, and nine time Pro bowler. Nowadays,

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Speaker 2: he lives in the Atlanta area and help motivate our

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Speaker 2: squad over the weekend before they're incredible thirty one to

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Speaker 2: twenty eight victory over the Falcons. Without further ado, please

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Speaker 2: enjoy tonight's conversation with Vikings legend Fran Targeted, the.

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer France Targeted. It's always great to catch

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Speaker 1: up with you, my friend, man oh man. I idolize

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Speaker 1: you as a kid, and here we are talking how

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Speaker 1: many years later, but it's great to catch up with you.

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Speaker 1: And what great timing because this past weekend in Atlanta

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Speaker 1: with the Vikings down there, I know you gave the

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Speaker 1: on Saturday. Now, you also, before we talk about what

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Speaker 1: happened on Sunday, for obvious reasons, you brought a special

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Speaker 1: memento for your speech. What did you bring and why

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Speaker 3: Well, these players in there, you know, they're no different

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Speaker 3: kind of language they want to hear, and it's type

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Speaker 3: of stuff. When you play my era, this era, you're

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Speaker 3: so forth, trying to get every week, get your best

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Speaker 3: I tell stories. So I thought i'd tell them the

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Speaker 3: story of our first game that we played as Viking

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Speaker 3: back in September of nineteen sixty one. And of course

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Speaker 3: And I didn't think after our quarterback that we had

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Speaker 1: Fran You mentioned the connection that head coach Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying it was the most effective way to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys, that's an amazing Uh, it's an amazing

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Speaker 2: the game at a different level in that respect, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean you you knew that game as well as anyone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. But I but I you know, as I told

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Speaker 3: This game is no different. You're just up another level.

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Speaker 3: It's not like I've they have never played football, but

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Speaker 1: So now that the hype has changed from what happened

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Speaker 3: But also the offensive coordinator makes a difference. The system

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Speaker 3: not try to be something that not And that's for

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Speaker 3: all of us. But we're uniquely individuals and a quarterback

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Speaker 3: I just want Josh. I just want him to be

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Speaker 3: They came into this country with nothing. They built in

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Speaker 1: Frand there's no slowing you down at eighty three. You

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Speaker 2: everybody else, from Flores in the defense to the special teams,

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Speaker 2: everybody picked up the slack and they found a way

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Speaker 2: to beat a good Atlanta team. And it's just incredible

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Speaker 2: they were still able to hang in there and get

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Speaker 1: We will for sure a lot of number fifteen purple

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Speaker 1: jerseys in the stands on Sunday afternoon, a wound up,

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Speaker 1: fired up crowd. When Joshua Dobbs is introduced the Vikings

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Speaker 1: are going to be it'll be crazy game over five hundred,

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Speaker 1: how about that? And looking to continue their playoff push

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Speaker 1: once again at the US Bank Stadium on Sunday. It's

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Speaker 1: a noon kickoff locally in KMSP Fox nine. Of course,

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Speaker 1: you can also catch the game right here all across

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Speaker 1: the Vikings radio network and look for those local listings

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Speaker 1: for details. Pete, always a pleasure having you on the show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you fans for tuning into another edition of School

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. I'll see you all again next week.