1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller and I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Hot Pursuit. 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: All right, we have a really fun episode today, a 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 2: really fun interview. We have a lot to cover, and 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: there's a lot to cover. Okay, let's start with La, 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: because you are in La. And the last time that 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: we spoke we recorded last Friday's episode, I think last Tuesday, 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 2: so you know, it was on fire, but it wasn't 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: as bad now as it has been. 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny because a week ago it's 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: so funny. I remember I saw some smoke way off 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: in the distance toward the ocean, and you know, honestly, 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: that happens from time to time. You might see like 14 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: some random, very small plume of smoke. And I'm on 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: the thirty first floor here in Century City, so I 16 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: have a very very good view of a lot and 17 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: I remember texting it to you and it was like, oh, 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: that's weird. That's there's some smoke out there. But you know, 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: I had obviously no idea about the devastation to follow, 20 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: and that was the start of the Paliside Palisades fire. 21 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: And so yeah, you know, it's just been a really 22 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: surreal week week and a half, and gosh, it's been 23 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: really hard to see everything that's happened to so many 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: of our friends and family members who have lost everything. 25 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: So definitely, you know, here at Bloomberg, we've all been 26 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: banding together to try to provide comprehensive coverage and sensitive 27 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: coverage and helpful coverage. 28 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: I think people are gonna want an update on how 29 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 2: you're doing. 30 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, thanks for asking. Thankfully I did 31 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: not We did not have to evacuate. We were for 32 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: the Sunset fire. The evacuation in line ended at the 33 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: one oh one and basically we were just on the 34 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: other side of the one oh ones near the Hollywood Bowl. 35 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: So we did have bags packed and in the car, 36 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: and we did go down and scope out traffic patterns 37 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: so we could be sure that we could leave quickly 38 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: if we needed to. And I definitely have never had 39 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: to pack as if I may not be coming back 40 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: before in my life, So that was a very clarifying exercise. 41 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: And what did you what do you what did you bring? 42 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 3: I have to say, honestly, the only things. 43 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: That I grabbed were a couple pieces of my grandmother's 44 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: very old jewelry. I grabbed a wedding photo, a watercolor 45 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: that my sister had given me and my passport and 46 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: made made sure I had on, you know, a cool 47 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: coat and some cool boots. But that that was honestly 48 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: it and you know, it just it's so cliche to say, 49 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: but it really does clarify in your mind what are 50 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: the important things in life? And things are obviously have 51 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: sentimental value, and but at the end of the day, 52 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: they're just things. And so, you know, it's it's been 53 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: very it's just surreal because honestly, you know, the skies 54 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: are blue today, I'm at the office. 55 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: The world moves on. 56 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: And also there are really thousands of people who are 57 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: going to be affected and continue to be affected for 58 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: quite a long time from this, including people I know, 59 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: close friends. 60 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: So I mean, I think it's yeah, it's mind boggling 61 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: to try and understand the scale of the devastation. It's 62 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: just not really comprehensible because you know, we're talking about 63 00:03:55,080 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: forty thousand acres burned, and people who not only had 64 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: to grab, you know, stuff they wanted for themselves, but 65 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: also whole families you know, that are going to be 66 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: not only looking for a place to stay, but also 67 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: with you know, elderly people in tow with babies, short 68 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: on diapers, short on formula. I mean, it's just, you know, 69 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: it's unimaginable all of the different variations of suffering that 70 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 2: are going on right now in Los Angeles. And to me, 71 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: I think about the years or even decades that it's 72 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: going to take to build back. It's just unprecedented, I 73 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: think in American history. Is it fair to say on 74 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 2: that level? I mean, we've had huge hurricanes, obviously Katrina 75 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: and what we saw in Florida and more recently in 76 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: the Carolinas, but this is just. 77 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 3: I can't Yes, yeah, of course. 78 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: You know, the latest estimate I saw was a forty 79 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: billion dollar damages estimate by some of the insurance providers 80 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: and the banks. Obviously, you know, over one hundred and 81 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: eighty thousand people evacuated. And I would just say too, 82 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, from an outsider perspective, and I certainly still 83 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: feel like an LA outsider, it's easy to think that, well, 84 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: this is just only affecting you know, more wealthy Hollywood 85 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: people who lived in this very upper class neighborhood called 86 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: the Pacific Palisades. But that is really untrue. You know, 87 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: a lot of the homes were family owned and passed down, 88 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: especially in Altadena. In Pasadena, these are hardworking people who 89 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: you know, might have been there for generations and shared 90 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: the home with their family. And you know, there are 91 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: whole ecosystems that are are involved in you know, these neighborhoods, 92 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: not just the people who live there, but people who 93 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: are working in those neighborhoods as well. 94 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 3: Who's who whose. 95 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: Livelihoods depend on those neighborhoods too, So there's really trickle 96 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: down effect. 97 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 2: Let's let's transition from right. It's obviously horrendous news. It's 98 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,679 Speaker 2: some of the worst it's one of the worst natural 99 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 2: disasters in American history. But having said that, this is 100 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: a show about cars, and we we typically focus on vehicles. 101 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: And so when you're thinking of when I'm thinking of LA, 102 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: I think of a car town, so and I imagine 103 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 2: all these structures burning down. I imagine not only the 104 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: homes that are so important to everybody, but I also 105 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: imagine the vehicles and a lot of these places. You know, 106 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: when we're talking to Mikhil Haggerty, he talks about the 107 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: car that he always worked on with his dad, and 108 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 2: that's not a unique story. There's a lot of people 109 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: who have worked on a car with their dad or 110 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: have you know, saved up for years to get this vehicle, 111 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 2: and it means more to them than just some rich 112 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: guy who bought you know, of NMF five. So uh, 113 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: I think a lot of those cars have been destroyed. 114 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really a key point, and it's something I 115 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: really try to touch on with the story that we 116 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: published about the car community and how these fires will 117 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: affect that. Just the idea that it's not about the 118 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: monetary value of a lot of these cars for most people. 119 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: You know. 120 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: I've heard stories firsthand of people who actually left a 121 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: supercar in the garage and drove away in you know, 122 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: their daughter's car because they knew their daughter loved her 123 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: car so much and they had to make a Sophie's 124 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: choice between the supercar and their daughter's car, and they 125 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: took their daughter's car because that had such a strong 126 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: sentimental value. And I think that is really true for 127 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people, you know. I spoke with Matt Farrah, 128 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: of course, our friend who also has a Westside storage, 129 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: and Eli Cogan, who has Auto Car club as far 130 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: away as Arizona, and they both are just telling me 131 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: that they are dealing with a bunch of people who 132 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: are making choices of which cars to save, to try 133 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: to preserve, to try to restore. 134 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: And it's not about the price of the car. It's 135 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: about some. 136 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: Sort of emotional bond, sentimental value, family story, et cetera, 137 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: et cetera. 138 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: Sure, I mean for most people, most people don't have 139 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: a Ferrari, you know, two fifty gto right, so yes, 140 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: but have a valuable or a couple valuable cars maybe 141 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: to choose from, and they're going to choose the one 142 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: they want to keep forever, so it doesn't matter which 143 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: one is more valuable or But a lot of people, unfortunately, 144 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: only have one vehicle like that. Or you know, a 145 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: lot of people have one vehicle that they've saved up 146 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: for one vehicle that means a lot to them, and 147 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: that's been destroyed. And it'll be interesting to see how 148 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: insurance pays out as well. That's gonna be another story 149 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: you'll probably. 150 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: Write, definitely. 151 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: And I've started to ask, you know, a lot of 152 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: the insurance insurance companies tell me it's too early that 153 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, there's still receiving claims et cetera. 154 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 3: Et cetera. 155 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: But for instance, Mercury Insurance is pointing to I don't 156 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: know if you remember the Paradise fire in twenty eight 157 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: eighteen that basically just leveled the town of Paradise, California, 158 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: and most homeowners' insurance companies do not ensure for fire 159 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: protection there, and Mercury Insurance has, as of January seventh, 160 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: started again issuing homeowner policies for Paradise, California. And I 161 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: spoke with one of their guys there last week who said, look, 162 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: a lot of the cars in the Palisades fire, for instance, 163 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: were abandoned and possibly abandoned with keys in them so 164 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: that first responders could move the car if they need to. 165 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 4: So as Steve Gutenberg requested, right, so technically, you know, 166 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 4: it's not that's not a stolen vehicle, and you know, 167 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 4: maybe it's damaged, but it wasn't destroyed by a fire technically. 168 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 3: But you know, obviously they're going to what they say. 169 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 3: You know, we'll see if they follow up on it. 170 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 3: But what they say is obviously, even. 171 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: Though that scenario is not itemized in the insurance policy, 172 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: we will cover. 173 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: That's got to be covered. 174 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Haggarty another one that we mentioned has 175 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: already opened a sort of pop up response center at 176 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: their garage and van Nis and they are. 177 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: Treating this as they treated the. 178 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: Hurricane fallout from the hurricanes in Florida, where they've got 179 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: to basically literally a crisis response center with a dedicated 180 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: team helping people as they file claims for cars. And 181 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: obviously Haggarty it specializes in collector car insurance, so there's 182 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: a lot of effort going into it. 183 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 2: I imagine most insurers are gonna try and do what's 184 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: right for the customer. Also, there's going to be some 185 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 2: pressure from government agencies of course, but it's the person 186 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: with I feel really for the person who doesn't have 187 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: a collectorc car. But say you bought a truck, you know, 188 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: brand new two years ago and you've put thirty thousand 189 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: miles on it and it was the love of your 190 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: your life, maybe with a six point two liter V eight, 191 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: and you know, insurance isn't gonna isn't gonna buy you 192 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: a new truck like that, right, They're gonna give you 193 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 2: the value of the car now, and it's just kind 194 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 2: of a it's a huge bummer. 195 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 3: It's a huge bummer. There's there's nothing else to say. 196 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: It sucks, like I still want. 197 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: I went through all of the Instagram and uh sort 198 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: of social media footage of people who had burned out 199 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: shells of vehicles. I noticed so many of them were 200 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 2: nine to elevens. 201 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: I know, I saw that too. 202 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 2: Did you notice so many Porschas. 203 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: Yes, I have to imagine those were sort of filtered 204 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: towards the top because they were the most cringe worthy. Yeah, 205 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: I have to imagine that that that truly and hard numbers. 206 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: It wasn't like we lost a ton of Porsches, but 207 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: I did see all of those photos. Obviously they are 208 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: the ones that wring our hearts stronger than if we 209 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: see a modern Sidan that's like a Honda. You know, 210 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: of course we're gonna cry a little bit more when 211 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: we see in something air cooled. 212 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: But I can't. 213 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: You know, you can only drive one car at once. 214 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: This is the problem. You can only drive one car 215 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: at once. And you know, of course Magnus and I 216 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: discussed we both were going to drive a car, and yes, 217 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: nice you know the route that we we did not evacuate, 218 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: but we did drive down to the freeway to be 219 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: able to see how traffic was was going, and yeah, 220 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: we we had it planned out. And we have a 221 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: neighbor who has two minis and he said he was 222 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: gonna leave with a Mini on either foot, and I 223 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: thought that that was so funny and the black black humor. 224 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: Of course, you can only drive one car at. 225 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: Once, so I have to imagine that, like a lot 226 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: of people did have to make a really painful choice. 227 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 3: Again, it's just stuff, but it still has meaning. The 228 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: memories do count for something. 229 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, just as much as uh, I mean, 230 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: in my mind, just as much as a work of art. 231 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: Of course. 232 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: You know, if you're scrambling to get out of your 233 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: house and you have and your you know, grandmother gave 234 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: you a Picasso sketch or something, that's probably one of 235 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 2: the things that you're gonna grab. Or if you happen 236 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 2: to have like a I don't know enough about art 237 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: to mention something amazing, but what's a guy called Rothko? 238 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: There you go. If you have a roth coke hanging 239 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 2: in your living room, then you're. 240 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 3: Probably gonna yeah, we're so big. 241 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: But speaking of venom f fives, you got a hold 242 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: of John Hennessy and he's got something special that they're 243 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: working on completely unrelated to this, but uh, what what 244 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: is the Warhawk? 245 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: The Warhawk is a new vehicle that they are developing, 246 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: which is based on a Jeep Rubicon, and this is 247 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: part of a whole new division that Hennessy is initiating. 248 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: It's it's I'm really fascinated just with Hennessy in general 249 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: and their many successes since the nineteen nineties, and they've 250 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: just announced that they're this new They're calling it a 251 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: strike force vehicle for military, police and sportsmen. It's called 252 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: the Hennessy Warhawk. They're actually going to unveil it January 253 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: twenty first in Las Vegas. But it's basically a Jeep 254 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: Gladiator Rubicon that they're saying is going to be lighter 255 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: and faster than similar vehicles. I'm assuming they mean similar 256 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: vehicles like, for instance, a Hummer, maybe a little more 257 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: nimble and a little more able to navigate some tricky situation. 258 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 3: So I think it's. 259 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: Fascinating, and honestly, I've wanted to have John on to 260 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: talk about it because it has felt a little like 261 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: armageddon here in La the past weekend. This is exactly 262 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: the type of vehicle I would. 263 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: Want to be in. 264 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: Well, let's bring John in and talk about it right now. 265 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: John Hennessy, dude, why don't we start with do you 266 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: have connections to LA that are you know, going through 267 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: difficult times or do you have any I do. 268 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 5: I've got a lot of friends out there. I was 269 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 5: trading some text messages with Johnny Lieberman and just to 270 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 5: think of all the people that I know kind of 271 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 5: in that neck of the woods. And the weird thing 272 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 5: is is I went out to LA for a day 273 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 5: trip to bring one with a client to go look 274 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 5: at at VENOMF five that we have out in Beverly 275 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 5: Hills at Gallpin and we landed, so Biden was at 276 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 5: Lax that we were going to my client's plane. We'd 277 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 5: get diverted to Long Beach and as soon as we 278 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 5: got in the rail car going up to four or five, 279 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 5: I saw a little bit of smoke and I'm like, hm, 280 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 5: I wonder what that is. And then we got further 281 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 5: we got up towards Lax and like the smoke cloud 282 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 5: looked like a meteorite it hit the earth and I 283 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 5: could see I could see flanes from twenty miles away. 284 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 5: That was a week ago, right, So that was like 285 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 5: I'm texting Bruce Myers and Beverly Hills. He didn't even 286 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 5: know about it. Yeah, so obviously obviously. I mean, it's 287 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 5: just just what a crazy tragedy. And I'm sorry if 288 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 5: you guys are out that way hand, I know you're 289 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 5: out that way. I'm sorry that you and your friends 290 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 5: and maybe family have gone through that stuff. It's heartbreaking. 291 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: Thanks, John, I really appreciate the concern, and I totally 292 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: echo your take on it. You know, Matt and I 293 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: were just talking about how last week when we recorded, 294 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: I actually could see smoke from the Pacific Policiades fire. 295 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: But you know, as you know, sometimes there are very 296 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: small wildfires that break out and you kind of see 297 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: them and you don't think anything of them in the 298 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: moment because it's a rather frequent occurred, not frequent, but 299 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: it does happen, and they put them out in a 300 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: matter of minutes and it's not a big deal. So 301 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: I can certainly relate to the feeling that, oh, that's weird, 302 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: that's smoke, but there's not an initial sense of panic 303 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: or concern at all. So very surreal time, very time. 304 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 5: So hopefully there's you know, I know they're still working 305 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 5: on it and hopefully they'll be some better while the yeah, gosh, 306 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 5: I you know again, wildfires are not new this other California, 307 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 5: but man, this one really just seemed to like get 308 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 5: really really bad. And I hope that whatever can be 309 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 5: learned from it, it cannot repeat. 310 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 3: Itself completely completely. 311 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: The power lines. 312 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's w let's do it. 313 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 5: We lost the house that we raised our kids and 314 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 5: got flooded from Hurricane Harvey in twenty seventeen. So but 315 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 5: we had like thirty minutes notice before we had to 316 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 5: leave the house. We moved our pictures upstairs, were able 317 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 5: to loads of stuff up in the car. When you 318 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 5: leave your house in the morning to go to work 319 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 5: or wherever you think you're coming home later that day 320 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 5: and then not come home, like every picture picture of 321 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 5: your grandparents, think priceless things that like may not mean 322 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 5: anything to anybody else, but they mean something to you 323 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 5: that they're gone forever times boousand and fifteen thousand residences 324 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 5: and businesses. That's heartbreaking. Doesn't even describe it for sure. 325 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 3: That's so true, you know I. 326 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: And obviously we have you on to talk about this 327 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: new division you guys are doing. 328 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 3: And the segue is you know. 329 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: Honestly, what I was telling Matt is it does feel 330 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: a little like the end of the world here in 331 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: la It certainly has the past week. 332 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 5: Look like that. It looked like literally up the four 333 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 5: or five in the in the cloud like literally looked 334 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 5: like a meteorite hit the earth. 335 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: Yes, it has felt like that a little bit. And 336 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: obviously you know this new division. When I see it 337 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: and hear about it, I'm like, this is this is 338 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: the kind of vehicle that I need. 339 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: To be able to to manage the end of the world. 340 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 5: We've had We've had different people, sportsman, hunters, adventures ask 341 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 5: us about specialized vehicles in the past, and we we 342 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 5: built our velosc Wrappers six by six truck. We built 343 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 5: other six by six vehicles, But we've had more people 344 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 5: that are kind of more in the police defense line 345 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 5: of work asked us if we could lend our you know, engineering, 346 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 5: design and manufacturing expertise towards specialized vehicles for those type 347 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 5: of applications. So you know, whether it's defense or or hunting, 348 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 5: or somebody wants to take a group of people out 349 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 5: into the wild and go you know, photograph you know, 350 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 5: wildlife or whatever. It's just kind of a kind of 351 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 5: a natural pivot for us. So one of our one 352 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 5: of our team members came up with a cool name 353 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 5: that we trade barked maybe a year ago, called Warhawk, 354 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 5: which was the name of the P forty. The P 355 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 5: forty fighter jet back kind of in the early forties 356 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 5: during World War Two was a fighter that they had 357 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 5: in the Pacific and kind of had like a The 358 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 5: Flying Tigers was an old John Wayne movie from back 359 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 5: in that timeframe, and so that that aircraft was called 360 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 5: the Warhawk. We were kind of surprised that nobody had 361 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 5: trademarked that, and they're like wanting to put on a 362 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 5: Mustang or something. No hold on, because I think there's 363 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 5: something cool that we're going to work on that we 364 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 5: might do for just in the defense sector. So anyway, 365 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 5: so we decided to put our hat into that ring. 366 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 5: We decided to start with one of the one of 367 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 5: the groups that was asking us to do this work 368 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 5: was interested in having kind of a jeep application, and 369 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 5: so we decided to build our first vehicle based off 370 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 5: of the Gee Gladiator Rubicon. And I think you guys 371 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 5: have seen some images of the of the vehicle we're 372 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 5: going to veil it at the SHOT Show in Las 373 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 5: Vegas next week. So again it's just kind of a 374 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 5: starter point. It's like, we really haven't put that much 375 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 5: time and energy into it, but we wanted to like 376 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 5: again showcase some of our design and engineering capabilities in 377 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 5: our experience with modifying a lot tens of thousands of 378 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 5: vehicles over the last thirty four years. And it's just 379 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 5: another kind of niche specialty industry, and I think a 380 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 5: lot of people companies that are in kind of the 381 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 5: defense space, they just you don't hear much from them. 382 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 5: They don't talk about it publicly, and you know, ultiply 383 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 5: after this interview and after going to the SHOT Show, 384 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 5: we may end up doing the same thing. But I 385 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 5: kind of wanted at least, you know, your followers and 386 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 5: the people that kind of that know us for what 387 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 5: we do kind of in the specialized automotive performance space. 388 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 5: Know that again, whether somebody's looking to build a special 389 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 5: vehicle for going off road to you know, hunt critters 390 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 5: or bad guys, or go take pictures or whatever. That 391 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 5: that again, that's something that is evolving in our as 392 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 5: our company has grown, we are branching out and doing 393 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 5: kind of new and different things and this is this 394 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 5: is something that's new and very specialized. 395 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: It also makes sense. The branding makes sense given the 396 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: trail Hawk and the track Hawk, And I know you 397 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 2: work on the track Hawk as well, the last generation 398 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: of the Cherokee where you put it up to one 399 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: hundred or sorry a thousand horse power. Sure, and so 400 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 2: I think it fits well with with the Jeep brand. 401 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 2: But when I heard about it, I had the idea 402 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 2: that you were actually going to make vehicles for the 403 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 2: defense industry. So what you're saying is this is more 404 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 2: for you know, maybe at militia at most, but more well. 405 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 5: No, no, to your point that we so in the 406 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 5: recent past, again, we've had multiple requests from different military 407 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 5: organizations for specialized vehicles, but at the time we didn't 408 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 5: have the bandwidth to do it. So after I'd heard 409 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 5: I don't know, have the fifth, fourth, fifth request somewhere 410 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 5: along the way, I'm like, Okay, maybe that's the sector 411 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 5: that we need to pay attention to. So we had 412 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 5: in our product plans to do it last year. We 413 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 5: didn't really, we didn't. The vehicle that you we've shut 414 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 5: the pictures on that we're unveiled next week, we only 415 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 5: started on that We actually started building it maybe less 416 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 5: than ninety days ago, so it went together very quickly. 417 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,239 Speaker 5: There was a lot of planning that went into that, 418 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 5: but again we wanted to be able to showcase. So 419 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 5: again it's primarily focused towards defense, but police might want 420 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 5: to use it a fire department. Like again, if you've 421 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 5: got a small fire up in the hill somewhere and 422 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 5: you're trying to get some firefighters there, you know, you 423 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 5: have the ability to load up people and they've got 424 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 5: harnesses and seats and rollcage and whatnot. So again it's 425 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 5: the people mover for off road situations. And again it's 426 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 5: designed to be light, it's designed to be fast, and 427 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 5: there's all kinds of versatility from from armoring or having 428 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 5: a metavac equipment or having command and control. Again, these 429 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 5: are things that we work with some of the different 430 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 5: agencies that are looking at these type of vehicles. They 431 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 5: kind of tell us what they want and then we 432 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 5: come up with modular solutions to kind of give them 433 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 5: what they want. But again it's for for a military application, 434 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 5: you know, a just feedback that we've gotten from some 435 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 5: of the war fighters that we've that we've worked with 436 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 5: on this project. Uh, there's times when something like an 437 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 5: armored Humby is too conspicuous and too slow, and it's 438 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 5: just kind of a hitting duck. So like, if they 439 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 5: want something that's light and fast, if you want something 440 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 5: that you could maybe load up a couple of them 441 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 5: in a in a big helicopter or back of a chinook. 442 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 5: Or if you want something that becomes disabled on the 443 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 5: battlefield and you want to retrieve it and not have 444 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 5: to blow it up, you can go in there and 445 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 5: sling it underneath a chinook and haul it out of there. 446 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 5: So again, I think there's there's there's kind of a 447 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 5: purpose to the vehicle in that it's it's light, it's quick, 448 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 5: it's kind of a you know, if you're if you're 449 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 5: you know, if you're defending the homeland and you got 450 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 5: to go you got to go track down some bad 451 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 5: guys and they'll get them. That's what kind of the 452 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 5: Warhawk is designed to do. So again, there's other things 453 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 5: that we're able to do. Again, this is just kind 454 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 5: of a conversation starter. Again, the Shot Show is the 455 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 5: world's largest trade show that's kind of dedicated towards not 456 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 5: just weaponry, but also for agencies and countries and you 457 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 5: know law enforcement departments that utilize those type of technologies. 458 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 5: And I've never been to the show, but we feel 459 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 5: like that's kind of like the Seams Show for this 460 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 5: type of this segment, and we want to go there 461 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 5: and engage with those different people that are looking for 462 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 5: those type of vehicles and if they need some sort 463 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 5: of a custom solution where we're going to be great 464 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 5: listeners to hear what they might need and see if 465 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 5: there's something that we can help design, engineer, or produce 466 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 5: for them if they have the need. 467 00:24:54,600 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: John, are you guys adding capacity at your plant and 468 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: order to facilitate and tell us about that, and then 469 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: also how quickly can you start getting these out to 470 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: people who may want them. 471 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 5: Well, again, so to answer your first question, our business 472 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 5: has grown tremendously. We are getting ready to add another 473 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 5: eighty thousand square feet of manufacturing space, so I'll put 474 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 5: us we're currently at fifty cells, give us one hundred 475 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 5: and thirty thousand four feet. Now within that we have 476 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 5: part of that Tunor School. Part of that's Tennessee Special Vehicles, 477 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 5: which designs engineers and manufacturers of m F five and 478 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 5: we have future products coming from that division. But the 479 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 5: big news that I don't know that we've shared with 480 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 5: you guys. In twenty twenty four, we entered into agreements 481 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 5: with gener Motors and Atlantis to where they are going 482 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 5: to provide factory vehicles, where they're going to inventory those 483 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 5: vehicles on our property. So when we have a dealer 484 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 5: that says, hey, we would like to order ten Hennessee 485 00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 5: Tahoe rsts with six hundred and twenty five horsepower and 486 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 5: then bring them directly off of our property into our factory, 487 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 5: modify those and send those to the dealers. So last 488 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 5: the last three years, we've modified between five and six 489 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 5: hundred vehicles per year. This year we feel like we'll 490 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 5: have the demand and capacity to build over one thousand units. 491 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 5: So again not you know, Porsche builds ten thousand, nine 492 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 5: elevens a year. We're pushing a thousand. We maybe hit 493 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 5: a couple of thousand units in the next few years. 494 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 5: So again we've seen a lot of growth. There's a 495 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,239 Speaker 5: lot of demand for fun fast vehicles. And again, how 496 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 5: many of the Warhawks might we build? Again, that's you 497 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 5: know right now, if we had an order for those, 498 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 5: I mean again, it depends on what the client wants. 499 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 5: But you know, if it's the basic, the base vehicle 500 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 5: like we've shown you guys in scale, we can probably 501 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 5: start producing those, you know, within ninety to one hundred 502 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 5: and twenty days, you know it. Depending if it's specialized, 503 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 5: they could take a lot longer, depending on what special 504 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 5: equipment they might want. But again, I think that that's 505 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 5: something that we're we're good at and getting better at, 506 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 5: is being able to scale in small volume very quickly. 507 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: As can you give us details on what kind of 508 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 2: suspension components are you going to be using on that 509 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: and also what do you what are you doing with 510 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 2: the powertrain? 511 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, so basically we can we can you know, 512 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 5: right now, the production vehicles come with UH with the 513 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 5: V six gas engine. We've had requests for diesel. So again, 514 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 5: if somebody, if if a group wanted a diesel version 515 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 5: of the jeep, we would probably buy a use want 516 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 5: to modify that, but we could also do the conversions. 517 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 5: It's a lot more work, a lot more expensive to 518 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 5: do that. So again we're you know, the vehicles are 519 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 5: going to typically be rated it probably a top speed 520 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 5: in between one hundred, one hundred and ten miles per hour, 521 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 5: you know, serviceability, Like these vehicles are probably going to 522 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 5: be going to the other side of the world in 523 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 5: a place where it may be more challenging to get 524 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 5: parts to service them. So again, kind of having a 525 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 5: common fuel, like the get diesel in most places around 526 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 5: the world, that would be an important consideration. 527 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: They have there diesel. But the Pennistar obviously is an old. 528 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 5: Reliable motor, correct correct, So yeah, keep it keep it simple. 529 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 5: That's that's one off. 530 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: And the suspension do you use I mean, the Rubicon 531 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: already comes with some pretty beefy suspension. 532 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 5: But you again, again, depending on the application, we can 533 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 5: we can raise it, we can lower it, we can 534 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 5: add a more aggress to suspension. You know, look, if 535 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 5: if somebody said, hey, can you put a healthcat engine it, 536 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 5: We've done. We had a vehicle that we built over 537 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 5: the years called the Maximus, which was a thousand horsepower 538 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 5: version of the of the of the Jeep Wrangler and Gladiators. 539 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 5: So we can do kind of any and all of that. 540 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 5: So there's really this is not like a deal where 541 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 5: you know, one size fits all that's going to be 542 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 5: They'll be they will be specially built based on the 543 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 5: very specific application that the client. Again, probably some government 544 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 5: agency has some for some kind, whether it's military, police 545 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 5: or fire, depending on what they want. But uh, again, 546 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 5: I think that the G platform is good platform to 547 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 5: start with, and look, we would we do a lot 548 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 5: of work with Ford and we may end up offering 549 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 5: some sort of a raptorized or a or a bronchoiseed 550 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 5: Bronco music. Absolutely. 551 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: Now. 552 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 5: I mentioned it to Jim Farley here recently that I 553 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 5: sent him some pictures of what we're working on, and 554 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 5: I said, you know, we really like to kind of 555 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 5: do a Bronco version of this as well. So again 556 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 5: we're not just specifically tied to the G platform, but 557 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 5: again it kind of depends on what the client wants, 558 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 5: what their needs are, and we'll find the base donor 559 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 5: vehicle and modify the vehicle kind of based upon their 560 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 5: very specific requirements. 561 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 3: And just to clarify, a single private individual could come 562 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 3: to you and also commission one of these, right. 563 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 5: I've got I've got a local customer who we just 564 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 5: built up a lost rapter one thousand rapptor our truck 565 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 5: for and somehow I think I text him a picture 566 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 5: of it because I know he likes to. He's got 567 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 5: a ranch and likes to go off roading, and I 568 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 5: just sent him a picture of it and he's like, man, 569 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 5: when can I order one of those? So I think, 570 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 5: you know, I've got a friend of mine. I gotted 571 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 5: Chris Barrett. Their family families started a company called Barrett Firearms, 572 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 5: and they'd make that big fifty caliber rifle. And he's 573 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 5: visitors as their factory in Tennessee one time, and he 574 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 5: said that half of their clients were kind of military 575 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 5: and police agencies, and the other half of their clients 576 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 5: are just some rich guy and wanting to toy. So 577 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 5: I don't see that being much different with the Warhawk. 578 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,719 Speaker 5: They'll be you know, hunters and outdoorsmen and people that 579 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 5: want to want to do something cool off road, and 580 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 5: then there might be the other half would be you know, military, 581 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 5: government agencies and police. So glad to support Glad to 582 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 5: support them either way. 583 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 2: I wonder about I'm looking at all your cars on 584 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: the website and I have so much fun looking at 585 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 2: every single one. Yeah, I love the Velociraptor five hundred 586 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: version of the Bronco. Speaking of that, but I had 587 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: two questions. One, how do you continue to offer a 588 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: three year thirty six thousand mile warranty in all these vehicles, 589 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: do you work with the manufacturer? Do you have to 590 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 2: back that up yourself? 591 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 5: Well, again, we do have excellent relationships with Ford Silantis 592 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 5: and General Motors. But ultimately, you know, when we pick 593 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 5: a platform and we're going to modify it, we've got 594 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 5: to do our diligence. So we need to start with 595 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 5: a platform that's fairly robust. We don't want to completely 596 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 5: reinvent the entire vehicle, so we want to work with 597 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 5: something that already has, you know, a good transmission and 598 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 5: a good suspension, and so we'll evaluate the base vehicle 599 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 5: perform our modifications, have a period of evaluation to where 600 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 5: we can determine whether we feel like we can offer 601 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 5: a warranty behind it, and if we do, then we do. 602 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 5: And typically that's the number that we track every month. 603 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 5: I mean, I think we're between one and two percent 604 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 5: of our total revenue is goes towards warranty support. So 605 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 5: it's fairly low. So we want happy customers and we 606 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 5: want to be able to support them if they have 607 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 5: an issue with their vehicle. But yeah, it get it 608 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 5: does get a bit tricky that when you start getting 609 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 5: upwards of a thousand horsepower, so we do put some 610 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 5: guardrails on that. If somebody, let's say, has a zal 611 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 5: one Camaro and they want to send it in for 612 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 5: the extress to Seprade, which is a thousand horsepower, will 613 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 5: require that vehicle to be maybe less than a year 614 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 5: old and have less than ten thousand miles to start 615 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 5: with something like that. 616 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 3: But yeah, makes sense. 617 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the Raptor R has one thousand and 618 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 2: forty three horsepower. After your this brings up my second question, 619 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 2: which is the Bronco like the Jeep you know and 620 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: some of these other vehicles, they look super impressive, amazing 621 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: off road capability, and I'm sure the engine's okay for 622 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 2: a lot of people, but it is still a V six. 623 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: So is there any way to put a V eight 624 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 2: in a Bronco. It seems like something Farley doesn't care about. 625 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 5: But you're the second person that asked me about asking 626 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 5: me about that today. So I've got a friend of 627 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 5: mine who's got a place up in Michigan and he 628 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 5: keeps his rapper R up there, and so he was 629 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 5: asking me about our velostroup of one thousand up great 630 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 5: for that and I think he's going to do that. 631 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 5: And he said to me the question, He said, can 632 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 5: I get a Bronco with a V? And I said, 633 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 5: everybody would love to have a Bronco with the VA. 634 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 5: But I said, I don't know that Ford's doing that. 635 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 5: I said, but I'm like with Farley at the Helm, 636 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 5: I think maybe there's a chance. So you're saying there's 637 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 5: a chance, So who knows. I don't know anything. I 638 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 5: don't have any inside baseball on that. 639 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 2: But uh, you know, when when when Hannah and I 640 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 2: talked to Jim Farley, he says, nobody really wants it, 641 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: you know, but then everybody else in the entire world 642 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: wants it. So yeah, I don't know what what gives there, But. 643 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 5: I think here's my here's my answer. I think that 644 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 5: the Eco Boost V six is extremely capable and it's 645 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 5: fun to drive, and we modify that engine so that 646 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 5: three later Eca Boost we bumped from four thirty to 647 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 5: five ten horsepower. But hey, look, you know, Ford brought 648 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 5: us the GTD, they did the four GT, They've got 649 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 5: the Dark Course, they're still building the Pony car. When 650 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,959 Speaker 5: you know, Stilantis, at least currently is no longer offering 651 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,919 Speaker 5: any of the healthcat pony cars, and GM did away 652 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 5: with the Z one camaros. So you know, if anybody 653 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 5: is gonna come out with some some badass equipment and 654 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 5: put a V eight in a vehicle that you're not 655 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 5: expecting to it would be four. But I don't think 656 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 5: that's imminent. I don't think that's coming anytime soon. But 657 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 5: I hope that that maybe there's maybe there's a chance 658 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 5: that Ford would consider that at some point. The I 659 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 5: would I would be customer number one, so you're. 660 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 3: Not only customer number two. I'm curious, John. 661 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: You know, we're talking a lot about broncos and raptors 662 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: and that sort of thing. But of course, I'm I 663 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: always think of things like the venom, you know, and 664 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I can't help but think if you 665 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: are doing more and more tactical style vehicles, does that 666 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: mean you'll be spending less time chasing records and building hypercars. 667 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, not at all, No, not all. You know, we've 668 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 5: got over one hundred employees. We may the end of 669 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 5: this year with one hundred and fifty employees, so we 670 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 5: can certainly multitasks. So look within the cordiona of our company, 671 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 5: is to push boundaries. Just to break barriers is to 672 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 5: we just kind of did our We just presented kind 673 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 5: of our mission, vision and values with our employees at 674 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 5: a big event last week. And the last one of 675 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 5: our company values is true grit. And we basically just 676 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 5: borrow the quote from JFK when when he had his 677 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 5: Moon speech back in the early sixties that we don't 678 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 5: do these things because they're easy. We do them because 679 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 5: they're hard. So, you know, we can modify vehicles, we 680 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 5: can build vehicles in volume. You know, we're building the 681 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 5: F five, we're chasing speed records. You'll hear more about 682 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 5: that at some point in than not too distant future. 683 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 5: And we can also come up with new products like 684 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 5: the world. So we can't do everything, but but I 685 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 5: like to. We like to challenge ourselves and we like 686 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 5: to come up with, you know, a handful of new products. Again, 687 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 5: it's also in our core DNA that we must continually innovate. 688 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 5: And so again I feel like, you know, you can't 689 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 5: just sit on your lulls, and you can't just say, well, 690 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 5: we're good at this and let's just do that and 691 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 5: let's not do anything else. I mean, that'd be the 692 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 5: easy way out and that would work for the short term. 693 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 5: But I was telling my team earlier today, I said, 694 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 5: at some point back in two thousand and eight or 695 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 5: two thousand and nine, some guy called me up and said, Hey, 696 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 5: I've got a new rapper, what can you do to it? 697 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 5: And I thought to myself, why would anybody want to 698 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 5: modify a raptor? Well, had we not taken on that project, 699 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 5: had we not stretched ourselves. And we ended up putting 700 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 5: a twin turbo system on it, which then generated a 701 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 5: phone call from the folks that were producing top Gear 702 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 5: USA at the time, and we ended up racing one 703 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 5: of our Veloci rappers against Tanner fous. Tanner's driving the 704 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 5: rapper and they're racing against the Tanner's driving and racing 705 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 5: against the Halo jumper out of a plane. And when 706 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 5: that came out on History Channel, we had one hundred 707 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 5: inquiries in the first hour. 708 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 3: Amazing. 709 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 5: So again, I don't know if anybody wants to buy 710 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 5: the Warhawk. I think it's cool and I think we 711 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 5: do well. We will sew some. But whether we seld 712 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 5: too or we're soull two hundred, I don't know. But 713 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 5: if we don't, but if we but like what to 714 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 5: bring Gretzky say that it's a great thing. That's like, 715 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 5: you missed one hundred percent of the shots you don't 716 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 5: you don't take, So I'm all about taking this shot. 717 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 5: You know, you know there's only shots, so many shots 718 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 5: we can take. But but every year if we're not 719 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 5: taking two or three shots, then we're like then I'm like, 720 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 5: I guess I'm I'm getting old and becoming irrelevant. I 721 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 5: don't want to be that guy. So we're gonna. 722 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 2: Keep taking good It's good to hear, because that's really 723 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 2: good to hear. I love all the modified vehicles, but 724 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 2: when I look at the Venom, and especially when I 725 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 2: scroll through pictures of the interior, I just want to 726 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 2: get in that thing. 727 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 5: Well cool, well we need to do that. 728 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 3: We need to go to Texas. 729 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 5: Come on. 730 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. That was John Hennessy from Hennessy Performance. 731 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 2: I spent like an hour on his website before we 732 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 2: came into the studio. 733 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 3: He's such a good guy. 734 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: I always loved talking with him, and he's just so relaxed. 735 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like we can ask him anything 736 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: and he'll have a great answer. 737 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 3: He's a straight, straight shooter, straight talker. 738 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he absolutely is, and what an amazing career. I mean, 739 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: we have had him on the show before, and so 740 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 2: I recommend people go back and listen to that to 741 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 2: hear about how he got started. But he really fought 742 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 2: through adversity to create this company that is now a 743 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 2: favorite of so many not only car enthusiasts, but manufacturers. 744 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, he has navigated. 745 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: You know, we all see these companies that kind of 746 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: come and go and tuners or whatever, and he has 747 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: navigated and that and really forged what seemed to be 748 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 1: very strong relationships with the manufacturers themselves and with his clients. 749 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: And you know, just to have this presence for so long, 750 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: I think is really a tribute to his best practices. 751 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 5: Right. 752 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 2: Best practice is a great term, because he clearly also 753 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 2: cares a lot about his employees. And he just mentioned, 754 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 2: like if Hennessy was publicly traded, we would have flashed 755 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 2: that headline. He just said, he's got about one hundred 756 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 2: employees and it'll get up to one fifty by the 757 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 2: end of the year. So real expansion there. It has 758 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 2: been fantastic talking to you, and I'm so glad that 759 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 2: you have stayed out of harm's way of course, I 760 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 2: feel for all those people who weren't able to avoid 761 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 2: uh this and it was a pretty unavoidable tragedy, just spreading. 762 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 3: Very senseless, I mean very senseless. 763 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully they do bury power lines when they rebuilt LA. 764 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 3: I would vote for that in a second. 765 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 2: And uh, but what what do you have coming up? 766 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 2: What's going on for Hannah Elliott next week? 767 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:38,320 Speaker 1: That is a great question, you know, it's no surprise 768 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: this aston Martin Vanquish Loan was rescheduled. I've also got 769 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 1: a Portia Macon EV. 770 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 3: Coming to me. 771 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 2: Speaking of me, I'm pretty sure he bought one the ev. Yeah, 772 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 2: he got an electric Macan. 773 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 3: Oh, fascinating. 774 00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had been in an electric car are for 775 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 2: a while, right right. 776 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 3: The Machi exactly. 777 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he this is his thing. Yeah, so that's 778 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: kind of what's coming. You know, it's still feeling as 779 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: slightly volatile here in LA. So I actually am aware 780 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:18,800 Speaker 1: of a couple automakers, uh rescheduling and shifting planned events 781 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 1: that they had here in the next few weeks. 782 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's that's what I got. 783 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 2: What about you? I, uh, I don't really have anything 784 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:33,399 Speaker 2: that exciting coming up until next month, obviously, it's kind 785 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,959 Speaker 2: of winter here. So the first thing I'll get that's 786 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 2: at all interesting I think is the RAM fifteen Joe. 787 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 2: But it's not the uh, it's not the what do 788 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 2: you call the E rev truck that they have. Oh, 789 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, the RAM charger. It's not the RAM charger. 790 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 2: So that's the one I'm really excited to try. But 791 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 2: I will be spending more time with my own car. 792 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 2: I put winter tires on my Challenger. 793 00:40:59,400 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 3: Amazing. 794 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 2: Still able to do burnouts at the drop of a hat. 795 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,439 Speaker 2: But it's a lot of fun to drive that thing 796 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 2: around the cold roads. Simple pleasures, the simple pleasures of life. 797 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna run over and anchor some Bloomberg 798 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 2: TV right now, and you, Stacy. 799 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 3: Thanks. 800 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller and I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is 801 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: Bloomberg