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Speaker 1: So they, i think, not only among Muslims, but among everyone.

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Speaker 1: People will realize that you're going to be a casualty

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Speaker 1: And so it's slowly happening, the awakening of people to

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Speaker 1: do to shut us up. Well, Azra fascinating life story.

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Speaker 1: The book is fascinating as well. Everyone should go out

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Speaker 1: and read it. I think the biggest mistake the left

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Speaker 1: taking on mama and Papa bears and mama bears like

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Speaker 1: you for not having it. So, yeah, you thought like

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Speaker 1: bears and Papa bears do too, right. You come after

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Speaker 1: they weren't gonna they were we were never going to relent,

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Speaker 1: and we won't. That's that's the miscalculation they have made,

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Speaker 1: is that you know that this is a hill we

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Speaker 1: will all die on for our kids, and um and

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Speaker 1: hopefully we won't die and I and we will all

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Speaker 1: brighter dayk. I'm absolutely certain I want to I want

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Speaker 1: to leave everyone with optimism that we will win, but

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Speaker 1: we need you in this place. Well. I love warriors

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Speaker 1: like you, rabbel rousers like you, and I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: joining the show. Azra, Woke Army It is out. Everyone,

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Speaker 1: go check it out, as are You're awesome? Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much, Thank you how much? Sleasa. So that was

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Speaker 1: Azra Nomani, author of Woke Army. Go check out her book.

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Speaker 1: Obviously a really interesting life that she has lived, interesting background,

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Speaker 1: compelling story. I appreciate you guys for listening every Monday

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Speaker 1: and Thursday, but of course you can listen throughout the week.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna thank my producer, John Cassio for putting this together.

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Speaker 1: As always, please leave us a review on Apple Podcast,

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Speaker 1: give us a rating. I always like to read those.

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Speaker 1: Until next time,