WEBVTT - Parody(ise) 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:05.280 Ka boom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:08.520 a week was enough, I think again. He's the last 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.240 remnants of the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:15.320 He treats crackheads in the ghetto Cutter the same as 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:19.400 the rich pill poppers in the penthouse. The clearing House 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:23.120 of Hot takes break free for something special. The Fifth 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:27.680 Hour with Ben Maller starts right now. That it does, 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:29.920 and I hope you're having a great weekend. We are 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:35.159 back behind the powerful microphones of I Heart. 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We 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:20.720 start out weekly on the I Heard podcast network and 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:24.320 now it's available three days a week, which is cool, 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:26.520 and the numbers have gone up partly because we're doing 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:35.080 more podcasts and I am joined by David gas Can Gascon. 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.160 It's another day, Ben. I'm happy to be here slaving 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:44.360 away over a hot microphone. Don't be steal that's Tom 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:50.919 Looney's trademark. Material materials from somebody. No, Loony's not a thief. 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.680 I've known Looney for twenty plus years. That guy doesn't 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:56.400 steal material. He only steals stuff from me, that's it. 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.040 But he doesn't steal stuff from anybody else. All materials 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:03.440 stolen material, one away or another, not all materials material. 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:06.000 There's original content. I know you've never come up with 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:09.200 original content, but there is original content that is out 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:13.160 there in the world. It does exist. Yeah, on this podcast, 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:17.160 it exists. Other podcasts, other shows maybe not so much. 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.040 I don't know what the other shows are doing. And 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:21.919 I don't give a crap with the Garden Variety podcast 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:25.880 and the generic radio shows are doing. I've never, uh 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:28.120 never really worried about that, you know. And I gotta 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.560 tell you a guest gun. Since this pandemic started, I 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:34.000 did a lot of my audio content listening when I 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:37.720 would listen to competitors and other people, and I did 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.320 that in the car, and I had like a very 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:44.760 long commute into the Geico Fox Sports Radio studios. But 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.120 somehow for the last forty something days, I have not 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:50.880 had that commute, so I have not been listening to 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:55.720 much of my competition. But I have heard that there's 0:02:55.919 --> 0:03:01.120 many people right now who are drowning in in the sea. 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:03.560 They're out in the Middle Atlantic or the Pacific, and 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:07.200 they are apparently overmatched and they're gasping for breath gas 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.720 gun And I've been told by members of the Mallam 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:14.000 militia who are always listening that it is cringe worthy, 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.120 not of course at Fox Sports Radio, but some of 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.679 the other people that work at the competing networks are 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:23.120 sputtering and they're taking els every segment here. So I 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:24.840 don't know if that's true or not. And I guess 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.320 in a way it would be schadenfreud if that's the case, right, 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:31.520 taking joy and and and celebrating other people's misery. Yeah, Well, 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:33.560 since you don't make the community to work, I can 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.240 attest to what I hear on the radio. Now, since 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:44.200 I drive to work here, I me me, I, I, I, 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:48.240 David Gascon puts the eye in sports Tyle put the 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.840 I and David as well. I drive at least seventy 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:55.320 four miles to and from work every nearly every single day, 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:58.520 and so I listened to sports talk radio. There's this 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.560 fascinating thing that hosts have done leading up to the 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:05.800 NFL Draft. Um, well, they'll actually have people on their 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:09.240 entire show and they will pretend like each of them 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.600 are part of the NFL teams, all thirty two teams 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:15.800 in the first round the NFL Draft. Bett Maller has 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:19.920 the a f C West, David Gascon has the NFC South, 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:24.160 and then almost sud we do a mock draft. No, No, 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:29.120 that's reckless, irresponsible and malicious out there. And then this 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:35.960 is list radio on steroids. That's what it is. Version 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:39.960 of list radio. It sucks. Now before somebody says, hey, mother, 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.719 you did that, there was we did a bit the 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:46.520 other day that happened organically. This guy Frank in l 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.360 a big mallon Milissia. Guy and Frank I've known. I 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:50.919 don't really know him. I know him a little bit. 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:52.840 I've met him a few times. He works at Dodger Stadium, 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.640 and Staples Center, so we haven't been working and he's like, hey, 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:58.880 we were doing these updates on the vending machine, so 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.320 how about like give up vending machine draft. So we 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:04.040 did like a segment where we were trying to guess 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:07.640 which item would be taken out of the vending machine first, 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:09.640 and Eddie had the number one pick and he picked 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.000 the Rito's, and then I had the number two pick. 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:16.000 I went Famous Amos, and then Cooper Loop and I 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:19.240 forget what Roberto picked, but Coop picked the sun Ships, 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.880 which was a terrible pick in the thing. But I 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.240 mean it was it was like one segment of radio 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:26.440 that we did, and it was just I didn't plan 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.800 it out. It wasn't like we had scripted it out, 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.200 and he just kind of happened. And to be fair, 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.960 it's a little bit different because we can't leave the studio. 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:39.320 That's the only thing that we can eat. No no, 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.280 But I thought I was very proud of it. I 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:43.440 thought it was a good bit. Frank inspired it, but 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.279 I thought I though it was pretty funny. And then 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:49.599 Coop's like accusing me of cheating because he said that 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.400 there were only like four packs of Famous Amos in 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:54.520 that row and then there were some other cookies, and 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:56.960 then Eddie's like Eddie chimes, and of course you know 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.640 Eddie who thinks I'm always cheating, so paranoid. He's got 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.000 this complex when he thinks I'm cheating about everything, So 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:05.200 then it becomes convoluted, right, and this whole thing it's 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:07.680 like perplexing to Eddie, and he's like, well, the whole 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:09.760 row has gotta be gone. We didn't draft a row. 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.640 We drafted a single food item, and all I had, 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.200 guests go on hand to god, all I had was 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:20.680 a photo that I think it was producer Vince sent out, 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.520 and that's it. I I was just looking at the 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:25.960 photo Vince set out. I haven't been there in a while. 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:29.159 Hopefully I will be able to go back soon, but 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.120 I haven't been in a while. And so you know, 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.080 it's like, that's all I had. And these guys are 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:38.320 accusing me of conspiring to cheat at a fucking video 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.840 a picture bit that we did off a fending machine. Well, 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:45.279 let me let me give you a little bit of inset. 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.640 Let me give you some some trade secrets here. The 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:51.840 sec probably wouldn't be happy with this. Um. The day 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:55.599 that producer Vince had twittered out that photo. That same night, 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.919 I worked here at the Geico Fox Sports radio studios, 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:02.360 and I immediately raided that vending machine. I took four 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:06.720 kit cats and two cheese. It's so it just it 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:08.880 heads up. When this thing circles back to you got 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:12.040 some you get some intel for you because uh, yeah, 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:16.680 it's so you're you're big, You're big cheese. It's guy us. Yeah, 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:22.040 cheesets are great cheese. It's pringles um. I do like Derito's. 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.640 But here in the vending machine that usually goes pretty quickly. 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.120 So I'll take usually what the guys won't take, and 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:31.320 that's trail mix, the granilla bar and then the kick 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.760 cat because Io the original kick cats. The mint ones. Yeah, 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.360 you know, man is one of those things. Like I 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:41.160 like mint. My wife does not like mint. Not a 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:44.239 fan of of the mint. But I'm all about the mint. 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:47.440 And remember the good thing about combining the cheese is 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:52.240 with the chocolate from the candy is the three are 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:56.240 three favorite food groups are salt, sugar, and fat, right right, 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.400 And so you combine the salt of the cheese, it's 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.560 with the sugar of the candy, and all you need 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.200 is fat and then you're you know, eat like a 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:07.160 side of red meat or something like that. You're good 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:08.960 to go. It's like the perfect meal. Right now. I 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.800 know it's a perfect meal. But I always thought of 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:14.840 you as you know, you're like an artsy farzie guy guess, 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:18.160 and you're like oatmeal, eggs, berries, avocados, that kind of 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.520 stuff that's usually what you eat. Well. The best part 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:22.800 is that day when I rated the vending machine, I 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:26.240 was actually I broke the fast that night. It was 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.520 I think it's like a twenty two hour fast. I 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:32.200 went to a spot nearby the work studio to eat 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.880 some some vegan food, and then immediately after that I 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:39.680 pounded the sweets. You know, I love the fact that 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.880 you are You're like the master of the humble brack. 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:43.960 You are the master. Like I like how you just 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:47.320 randomly work in the fact that, yeah, I was breaking 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:50.120 a twenty two hour fast, that's how it was going. 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.600 I like how you slide that in. I like like 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:54.520 I wouldn't notice that you were doing that. I think 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:56.440 the beautiful thing, and you can attest to this is 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:58.800 when you have a four hour show, your obligation to 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:01.200 not only your staff, but since the network is to 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:04.199 tell a fine story. And that's exactly what I was 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:06.280 doing because I didn't want to leave anything out, so 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.880 I came back to the original point of what caused 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.360 me to do that. So so you're patting yourself now, 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.800 you're patting yourself on the back, the narcissist you are. 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.640 You're patting yourself on the back for telling a fine story. 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.960 If if I was patting myself on the back for that, 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:22.040 I would have said, like, this is exactly how it 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.280 should have went. But I didn't go according to plan. 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.720 I will. I will admit though I had a tremendous 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.040 workout in the middle of the day, I was exhausted. 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:33.200 I actually had a fireman tan after on my arms 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:36.520 because you know, working on a tank top and the backyard. 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:38.760 I was fatigued. Man, it was one of those days. 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:41.600 I was shooting a lot of pounds and adds a muscle, 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:43.520 and then I fasted all day. You have been very, 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:45.840 very proud of me, you know. I love the fastening thing. 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.160 I am not that I want to brag like you, 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.400 but I think I'm coming up on four hundred fast 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.800 since I started this, and I like the fact that 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.120 I can eat whatever I want when I don't fast 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:58.800 pretty much. But the problem is I've lost my my 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:03.760 jumbo sized appetite now, which sucks. It really, I feel 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:08.800 like I'm I'm becoming like everything I hated. Like I 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:12.120 used to be able to eat gratuitous amounts of food 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:15.840 and I would I could never get enough. And now 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:20.000 I actually feel full, which sucks. I never felt full before. 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:22.680 It's really bothering me, Like I look forward to the 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:24.880 weekend because I have my cheat day where I can 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:28.160 eat whatever I want, and then I don't end up 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.680 eating that much, and it's like, what the fuck? You know, 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:32.880 I spend all week not eating, and now on the weekends, 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:34.480 I don't even want to eat. I'm on like the 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.600 Buddha diet or something like that. It's crazy. I think 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.280 one of the important things that we always learned in 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:43.640 in different facets of the game of sports and entertainment 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:47.280 and news is is active listening. And I think it's 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.960 important to acknowledge you are becoming the things that you 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:52.800 used to hate. I mean, now you're you got these 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:57.160 webcams at your house, We're inquiring about television, you want 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:01.199 to do more? Like absolutely, we love this. You're what 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.680 You're you're you're coming on the rifled age of forty five, 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.560 but you are like a seasoned one, like I need 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.440 to invest in you. You're like you're like you're like 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:13.640 a double barrel Scotch right now. The Bend Mallory, You're 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:18.199 like thirty five forty You're just you're aging quite well. 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.960 I love the evolution because it's taking you a fucking while. 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:25.680 To you, I have said, guesscon I my life. You know, 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:27.800 who knows what's happened. I could check out at any moment. 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:31.400 But my life is better now in my forties than 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.240 it was when I was in my twenties. I was 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:37.559 more of b the obese. I had no no life. 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.800 I probably went in from the age of like twenty 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:45.800 to thirty, I average going to two hundred seventy two 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:49.600 eight possibly three hundred sporting events a year as a 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:53.400 radio guy, reporter, talk show host. And all that I 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:55.760 all I did was I do the radio show, and 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:57.960 I'd go to work. I go to a game, a 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:02.680 Dodger game and Angel game, you know whatever, Lakers, Clippers, 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:05.680 Kings every night. There was a game pretty much during 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:09.000 the year. And it sounds great because I love sports, 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.720 but there's gotta be a little bit of balance in there. 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:17.120 And so but yeah, it's it's wild. How yeah life, 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.520 the zigzag of life and all that stuff. And here 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:22.679 it comes, you know, just you know, sweeping into the 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.880 second half of your life. You know, first it was 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:28.240 the Misses. First it was Aaron. Then here comes David 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:32.440 Gascon down the straight away and uh, we're just here 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:35.440 for you, like this is this is an amazing turn. 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:38.880 And so when you write your book, this is the 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:42.280 climax in your book. Yeah, well, I will do a 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:46.400 whole chapter about how pretentious David Guest I put that 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:51.480 in there. That is gonna be there, working with the narcissist. Yeah, 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:55.080 how to handle a conceded human being out of you? 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:58.640 And I do have some bad news. I actually took 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:02.000 a drive down memory Lane. Is the four oh five freeway. Now, 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.319 I remember the four oh five Freeway. I always try 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.080 to avoid. That is a point of demarcation, that is 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:12.040 a demilitarized zone. Uh. And and you on one side, 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.320 you've got humanity. On the other side, you've got the 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.320 one percenters. And you live on the side of the 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:18.840 one percentage. Yeah, but the unfortunate thing is that we've 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:22.360 got tumbleweeds around our our spot and in Tito's tacos 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.640 right now, it is really Yeah, you went to Tito's. 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:29.520 I drove by. I had to take a piece. Not open. No, 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:32.800 Tito is not open, Oh my god. No. And you 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:36.120 get boards up too, so really like, I don't know 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.480 if it's boards so people don't break in, or if 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:43.240 it's boards because they've closed up shop. Really yeah, Like 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:45.439 I think I saw your wife twitting out about an 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:48.400 Italian restaurant you guys go to that's also closing up. 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:53.400 So yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's terrible for the 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:57.480 restaurant business. I mean that Italian place in uh in 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.280 East Hollywood. I've been going there for years. Man, I 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:05.280 love that place. Yeah, that's that's my spot, and uh 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:08.800 it sucks. And you know that's another reason people there 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.920 is this great debate, right you know, there's people freaked 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:15.800 out because of health and what's gonna happen. We're worried, 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:17.640 they've im concerned about the coronavit it and then you've 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:21.120 got other people like well, if we don't open up 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.040 business soon enough, there's gonna be nothing to come back to. 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.400 So like there's that balance that they have to strike, 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.760 which sucks, but I feel terrible for these restaurant guys. 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.720 And it's not just restaurant people. I mean, you're talking 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:38.160 about unreal levels of business closing, unemployment. It's out of control. Man, 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.080 it's just nuts. Well, people got to eat. But that 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.920 also includes the sports world too. And I know that 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:48.280 the guest that you brought on there's an extra scoop 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.120 with something special for the Yeah, I am, I'm excited. 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.480 You know this is the podcast is a little extra. 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.240 We don't get paid for it. I don't get paid 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.120 for it's pro bono work here. In addition to the 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:01.360 radio show. But one of my favorite people I keep 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:04.920 track of on social media is this guy's Sports Talk Bear. 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:06.560 If you've listened to the radio show, you know I've 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:10.479 talked about sports Talk Berry. I have done tributes homages 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:15.080 to sports Talkberry. He is the king of trolling. He's 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:20.560 the king of of fooling and goofing on real media people, 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:26.280 prominent people who don't pay attention. He exposes the lazy 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:29.520 in sports media with some of his pranks. Over the 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:34.960 last couple of years, he's really become a big social 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:38.920 media star. I started paying attention to him a couple 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:42.080 of years ago, and I have been a fan ever since, 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:43.800 although it's hard to keep track of him because he 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:45.640 has to bounce all over the place. It's like a 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.560 whack a mole game, uh, with the Twitter accounts to 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:51.000 keep getting shutting, shut it down. But he's the king 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:54.200 of sports comedy, and so let's give it up to 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.240 Sports Talk Barry, and I guess Barry. The first question 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:01.600 that must be asked is how did this whole thing begin? 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:06.120 How did the sports talk very character start. Well, it's uh, 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.800 kind of an interesting journey I've had on Twitter over 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:14.720 the last seven years or so. I started off by 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:19.920 the name sports Talk Joe, and I was I had 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:24.160 my real faith as my abby and I basically had 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.680 the same you know, liked that went by Joe. That's 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:33.240 what it was. And for about four years or so, 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.440 four and half five years, I was basically just a 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:40.120 guy like another sports tweeter, your average sports tweeter. I 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:44.440 had around a couple of thousand, nine thousand and ten followers, 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.320 and that's pretty much what it was like for the 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:50.360 first four and a half five years. And then finally 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:55.280 about two years ago, I decided, hey, you know why 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:56.760 don't I switched up a little, but why don't I 0:16:56.800 --> 0:17:02.240 try something different? And so I was looking, Yeah, h dirty, 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:08.200 funny names, and I wanted one that wasn't completely obvious 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:12.680 like bend Over, Mike Hunter or anything like that where 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:14.879 it would kind of give it away right away. So 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:16.840 I was looking through all these dirty names and I 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:19.399 found one that was Barry McCain and I was like, 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:21.680 oh wait. Even though I had to take a step 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:23.480 back for a second and read it over again, I 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.840 was like, oh, yeah, that's great. And there's been plenty 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:30.320 of examples over the past few years where some people 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:34.040 will follow me for like months at a time, and 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.159 they'll be in my mentions like I just realized what 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:40.480 your name is. And so that's why that's always that's 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:43.320 always a it's an honor when I hear that. But 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:45.879 so that was how I got the name, just I 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:47.760 just found I touched, thought it was funny. That's how 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.760 I got the name Barry mc and uh, that's why 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:55.600 I started to go by sports dock Berry. And anybody 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:59.000 who knows about Sports dock Berry knows that you know 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:03.560 the Abbey, and the Abbey is uh an actor who 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:08.639 portrayed the doctor in this really really seedy looking commercial 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:15.320 that airs for this place called the Addiction Network, and 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:18.840 there was this again like this this commercial had I've 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:24.600 seen this commercial thousands of times over the previous three 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.960 or four years, and I for the longest time I 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:31.080 thought it was just like some crappy vocal commercial because 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:34.280 the production quality on it was just so bad. And 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:38.640 so I decided the screenshot a pick of the the 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:42.360 actor of the doctor in the commercial, and I treated 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:46.200 a posted on Twitter and a bunch of my fathers like, oh, yeah, 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.119 I know that guy. I see that guy's commercials, and 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:50.399 I thought, well, this is kind of interesting. So it 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:53.800 just it kind of It wasn't really planned, but I decided, 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:55.959 why don't I just make this guy my new abbey? 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:59.159 And so when you parted that with the name, it 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:02.760 just kind of work and one thing led to another 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:07.240 and I lose. Basically, my profile just just exploded into 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:10.560 I had you know, seventy thou followers than of nowhere. 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:13.080 Really be sure to catch live editions of The Ben 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:15.960 Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven p m. 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:20.440 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Yeah, 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:24.560 and you have become a Twitter legend. But there are 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:26.679 good things and bad things about that. I know I 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:30.280 from doing the radio show. Uh it's a cesspool and 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:35.720 just get bombarded with with trolls. So but you've always 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:37.040 got to be on the move right. You've gotta be 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.480 a step ahead of the Twitter Rozzie that are out 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:41.720 to get you. Not only you've got two things right, 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.600 because you've got the knuckleheads that are are gonna not 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.280 like what you're doing, and then you've got the Twitter 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:49.680 police who keep shutting you down. So you have to 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:51.920 you have to hide in the shadows a little bit. 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:57.200 I'll tell you what it's been. That's obviously been by 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:01.480 far the most frustrating parts that Twitter is because at 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.320 the core of what I do, I was trolling all 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:06.760 this stuff I tweet. I do it because I'd like 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:10.720 making people laugh and I like enjoying. I like making 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:14.840 people day better, aim in the smallest sort of way. 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:17.040 And when somebody tells me, hey, you know your tweets 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:19.439 make me laugh, Your tweaty day better, that's really what 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:21.680 I do it for. And obviously you know making money 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:26.440 is in pat either, but uh, the the feeling of 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:29.840 of you you build up all these followers and you 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:33.639 make a lot of content that people enjoy, and you 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:36.160 build up, you know, hundreds of thousands of followers. I've 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:38.520 had maybe I got to like over twenty accounts now 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:40.840 because they keep getting suspended, and it's been in that 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:43.640 same way and everthing, even since you followed me. I'm 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:47.520 can suspended a few times. So yeah, well, in fact, 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:50.720 i've actually, yeah, I've had I write your number down. 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:53.359 We were trying to schedule this interview, and then I 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:55.560 went back and I was like trying to go through 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:57.720 because I didn't write it down right away, and then 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:00.560 the account that you we were talking on was gone, 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:02.360 So then I was like trying to I was trying 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:04.600 to scramble to find the number to get a hold 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:06.639 of you. And this I think you've had five or 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:09.440 six It seems like you've had five or six maybe 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:12.640 not just since we started communicating, you've bounced all over 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:15.720 the place because like, do they have they given you 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:18.400 any guidelines that they say that you're banned because you're 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:21.600 doing these pranks? Or is it are people reporting you? 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:23.080 What do you think the reason is that you keep 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:27.000 getting thrown into the Twitter jail? Well, Twitter has this 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:35.760 ridiculous evading suspension policy. And my my original account, which 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:38.879 I had for three or three and after years, like 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:43.240 I got the account in like many I remember exactly 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:45.440 when I got it because I'm a big NBA fan, 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:50.000 and that was during Conference finals between the Pacers and 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:51.760 the Heat. I remember it like yesterday, so it was 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:56.200 like mayen and it got it didn't get suspended until 0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:00.359 like right after the election, and so really said sometimes 0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:03.320 you've seen elections. So that's what about almost three and 0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:05.159