WEBVTT - Do You Remember "Protective Function?" - 5.3

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<v Speaker 1>Let not your heart be troubled. You are listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the Sean Hannity radio show podcast, Right Glad you with us?

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<v Speaker 1>And right, has anybody heard anything about me in the

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<v Speaker 1>last twenty four hours? Names you know, at some point

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<v Speaker 1>when you really think about the obsessive coverage of all

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<v Speaker 1>things Hannity lately, I mean, and a lot of it

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<v Speaker 1>just a typical fake news, you know. I love the

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<v Speaker 1>fact I really would like equal treatment under the journalist ethics,

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, maybe we ought to start looking into Anderson

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper's uh different financial holdings or everybody else on on

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<v Speaker 1>TV considering, Uh, everybody's so interested in what they think

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<v Speaker 1>they know or don't know about mine. He stood up

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<v Speaker 1>and he said the name Sean Hannity. How did he

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<v Speaker 1>say it? Was it like Hannity Han, Sean Hannity, Shaan Hannity,

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Hannity, Sean Hannity, John Hannity, Sean Hannity, Sean Hannity,

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<v Speaker 1>Hanny Shot Hannity, Sean Hannity, Shawn Hannity shown, Hannity, Shaun

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<v Speaker 1>Shawn Hannity, Han Hannity. Hi, this is the Sean Hannity Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, here is a true statement one Shawn. The

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<v Speaker 1>media is wait, wait, I'm sorry, what was your name again?

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Sean Hannon. What's the name of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Hannity Show. Is that a capital H? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Will you stop, uh think about this? When we were

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<v Speaker 1>out there, like we usually really are hanging up at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of a tree, out on a skinny branch,

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<v Speaker 1>hanging onto a twig and a leaf on the twig,

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<v Speaker 1>um vetting Barack Obama, they're there. They so hate anybody

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<v Speaker 1>that supports the president or the fact that we have

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<v Speaker 1>done such a big deep dive into the deep state

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<v Speaker 1>and we have exposed what we now know to be

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest abuse of power and corruption scandal in history.

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<v Speaker 1>Um now, they just think they're vetting, And Linda, tell

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<v Speaker 1>me if you disagree, they're vetting me more than they

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<v Speaker 1>did Obama for president. I mean, I can remember you

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<v Speaker 1>talking to George Stefanopolis when he was getting ready to

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<v Speaker 1>interview him and saying to him, Hey, George, do you

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<v Speaker 1>know about this? Hey George, do you know about that?

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<v Speaker 1>And he knew nothing that he had never heard of

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Ayres and Bernardine Dorn. There are two questions that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody has asked Barack Obama, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if this is going to be on your

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<v Speaker 1>list tomorrow. One is his the only time he's ever

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<v Speaker 1>been asked about his association with Bill Airs, the unrepentant

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<v Speaker 1>terrorists uh from the Weather Underground, who on nine eleven

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<v Speaker 1>of all days in the New York Times was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't regret setting bombs. I don't think we did enough.

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<v Speaker 1>When asked about it by the Political David Axelrod said

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<v Speaker 1>they have a friendly relationship and that they had done

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<v Speaker 1>a number of speeches together and that they sat on

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<v Speaker 1>a board together. Is that a question you might ask, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm right now. September eleven, two thousand, one of all days,

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<v Speaker 1>there was an article in the New York Times and

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<v Speaker 1>there are a number of quotes about Bill Ayres and

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<v Speaker 1>the Politico had in there the comments about from David Axelrod.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's an interesting question that nobody in the

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<v Speaker 1>media has really brought up. We've we've highlighted a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more here on this program. But let me see

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<v Speaker 1>if I can help you. You want any more questions?

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<v Speaker 1>Keep going. The Chicago Reader talked about and commented has

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<v Speaker 1>comments of Barack Obama why he attended the million man

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<v Speaker 1>March that most people don't know that. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty Didn't he write about that in his book.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember that but picular, but I know that

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<v Speaker 1>he was quoted extensively in The Chicago Reader December eighth.

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<v Speaker 1>I forget the year, going back a couple of years,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, but he had never heard about it

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<v Speaker 1>until I told him. You see, it's a very simple

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<v Speaker 1>answer to all questions. If people would just call you,

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<v Speaker 1>they would get the information they need. Well, you see,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, really everybody having a good time. Ever, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sick of my own name. Do listen. If they

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<v Speaker 1>want to have some fun with it, so can we.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fun is the funny part is as I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're vetting me more than they did Avanna Obama.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also think I'm getting a little sick and

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<v Speaker 1>tired of I've been looking at the TV all day

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<v Speaker 1>and there I am on every channel all day long.

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<v Speaker 1>I could have sworn you were prime time, but today

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<v Speaker 1>you're all time. I don't know what's going on. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been the same for the last four weeks. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean when they ran out of the courtroom, Alway's Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Cohen's third quite Oh well, we explained that tell no cases,

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<v Speaker 1>no billing, no retainer. I think three questions on real estate,

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<v Speaker 1>but I said, let's I want this attorney client gave

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<v Speaker 1>him ten or twenty bucks. That was it, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're disappointed and so anyway, so now that but

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<v Speaker 1>I I I think I want to get paid. I

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<v Speaker 1>think CNN owes me a paycheck. I think NBC owes

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<v Speaker 1>me a paycheck. ABC Conspiracy TV owes me a pa.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they want to start paying me because they've

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<v Speaker 1>run the by show every day and talk about me

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<v Speaker 1>every day at this point, I'm figuring we ought to

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<v Speaker 1>get paid back anyway, Enough about me, Um, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we now my sources. What do you mean you have sources?

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<v Speaker 1>The funny part on that is, you know people are

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<v Speaker 1>writing bizarre conspiracies about Sean Hannity. Oh, he is the

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<v Speaker 1>shadow chief of staff and he talks to the president

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning, and he talks to the president at night,

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<v Speaker 1>and he talks to him all the time. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>like this, and it's he should have a desk in

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<v Speaker 1>the White House. And then when I contradict something that

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<v Speaker 1>I knew wasn't true in the New York Times and

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<v Speaker 1>their anonymous source, what does he know what he's talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>He has no no clue what he's talking about. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do have sources now. Mayor Julianni today in another

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<v Speaker 1>sign that Kim Jong gun is sincere and his pledge

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<v Speaker 1>to give up nuclear weapons if it wasn't enough for

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<v Speaker 1>people in the media because they'd rather talk about stormy

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<v Speaker 1>Um that he walked across the d MZ into the

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<v Speaker 1>arms of the South Korean president and history was made. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor Julianni mentioned that we've got Kim Jong gun impressed

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<v Speaker 1>enough to be releasing three prisoners today. Um, and while

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<v Speaker 1>it hasn't been confirmed, we are pretty clear. Um, my

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<v Speaker 1>sources are telling me that's absolutely true, that that is

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<v Speaker 1>in fact. Now. The interesting thing about that is, how's

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<v Speaker 1>the media gonna react to that? Uh, this is how

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<v Speaker 1>it will be on TV. Oh, three hostages were released,

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<v Speaker 1>but Stormy Daniels, but Russia, Russia, Russia's how corrupt the

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<v Speaker 1>media is here and as of late Wednesday, US officially

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<v Speaker 1>done the confirmation. Apparently you know we're hearing. Sarah Sanders

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't confirm it. Um, but the bottom line is it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like really good news is coming. Thank God for

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<v Speaker 1>these hostages and let them get home safely to their

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<v Speaker 1>families as quickly as possible before I get into my

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<v Speaker 1>interview with Mayor Julianni last night. Um, something else you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna hear. And I kind of feel it's my

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<v Speaker 1>obligation to put out information because the media won't do

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<v Speaker 1>their job. The fake news gang out there wants you

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<v Speaker 1>to think that the fate of the world hangs on

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and thirty thousand dollars that was paid to

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<v Speaker 1>a point star that claims to have had sex twelve

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, um and who paid who and who knew what,

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<v Speaker 1>when and where? But new applications for US jobless benefits

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<v Speaker 1>now increased less than expected that last week, and the

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<v Speaker 1>umber of Americans now receiving unemployment aid fell to its

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<v Speaker 1>lowest level is since nineteen seventy three, which points to

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<v Speaker 1>a tightening labor market, which is good for people that

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<v Speaker 1>are in the workforce because that means that you have

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<v Speaker 1>employee ers that are going to be fighting for employees.

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<v Speaker 1>Initial claims rose two thousand AD just seasonally adjusted, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know this is all good news. Fourteen states

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<v Speaker 1>now have record low unemployment numbers, record low unemployment numbers

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<v Speaker 1>for women in the workforce, record record lows for Hispanics

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<v Speaker 1>in the workforce, and African Americans and the workforce. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all phenomenal. Um. Now, I want to start with where

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<v Speaker 1>I probably shouldn't, but I will, because you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>looked at everything I look. I was there for this

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<v Speaker 1>interview with Rudy Giulietti last I know he's done some

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<v Speaker 1>other interviews since and and I didn't catch it right

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<v Speaker 1>away because the quiet and I was asking was different

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<v Speaker 1>than the one that he originally answered. And then later

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<v Speaker 1>in the interview. I went back to it because I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make sure that I had gotten it right,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm thorough and I want to do a good job. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And that was his comments. You know, the media is

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<v Speaker 1>ignoring that he said Robert Mueller's questions are intended to

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<v Speaker 1>be a perjury trap for the president. They're not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about that. They're not talking about why Trump fired Comey

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<v Speaker 1>in the long discussion we had about that. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Mayor Julianni saying Comey is a disgraceful liar

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<v Speaker 1>and the Mueller probe is tainted. They're not talking about

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<v Speaker 1>when he looked in the camera. Sorry, Hillary, you're a criminal,

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<v Speaker 1>and Comy fixed the whole case, and and Comey's perverted.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they're not talking about. Uh, my biggest regret

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<v Speaker 1>is I should have taken the attorney general job. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the country would turn on Mueller and if if, in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>he went after the First family, and that he didn't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that you know, none of these revelations are really

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<v Speaker 1>They basically have recycled out of a forty minute interview

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<v Speaker 1>one thought because the others would be too damning to

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<v Speaker 1>the deep state, and it all is part of their obsession.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't they never played the tapers, and there's no

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<v Speaker 1>Russian collusion. That's over. It's absolutely done and finished. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>with all the news that came out of this interview,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the media, folking focusing on here? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>not any revelations about the negotiations with Mueller, which are

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<v Speaker 1>very important and what constitutionally Mueller has a right to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Or when I asked him about the abusively biased team

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<v Speaker 1>of Mueller, he's they're not talking about Julianni's blistering assessment

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<v Speaker 1>of James Comey, not Julianne's stunning conclusion that the only

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<v Speaker 1>crimes that have been committed so far well have been

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<v Speaker 1>committed not by President Trump, by the deep state, by

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<v Speaker 1>the government, and he said it numerous times, meaning the

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<v Speaker 1>Obama Justice Department, you know, people way up high in

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<v Speaker 1>the Obama FBI and the Obama White House. All they

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<v Speaker 1>have fixated on and focused on and zeroed in on

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<v Speaker 1>his Stormy Daniels and the mayor's revelation. The President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>reimbursed reimbursed his lawyer, Michael Cohen for a hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty thousand dollars that Michael Kohn said he didn't ask

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<v Speaker 1>permission for and used his own money, And this morning

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<v Speaker 1>the fake news brigade was having a collective meltdown that

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<v Speaker 1>Julianni's statement means Trump lied when he said he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know about the Stormy Daniel's payment when he was asked

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<v Speaker 1>about it an Air Force one and when Trump issued

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<v Speaker 1>the one word denial, no, Well, I took it to

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<v Speaker 1>me that he didn't know in advanced that a payment

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<v Speaker 1>was being made, which is true because Michael Cohn has

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<v Speaker 1>said that and stuck with that story, and that he

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<v Speaker 1>did it on his own and that he viewed it,

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<v Speaker 1>I assume as part of his job. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>surprising if you work for a billionaire at a billionaire's

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<v Speaker 1>company that that you're gonna handle things like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>as a matter of everyday business, it sounds horrible. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's in other words, true or not. I'm not even

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<v Speaker 1>talking about veracity here. I'm talking about problem issues that

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<v Speaker 1>come up that need to be dealt with. And in

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<v Speaker 1>that sense, it's Michael Cohen, in his position as a

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<v Speaker 1>a General Council vice president at the Trump Organization, to

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<v Speaker 1>jump on a grenade if he sees a problem for

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<v Speaker 1>the company and his boss, which it sounds like he did.

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<v Speaker 1>And um. But by the time the press asked Trump

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<v Speaker 1>whether he knew about the payment in April, of course

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<v Speaker 1>Trump knew about that. By that time. Everybody knew it

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<v Speaker 1>had been in the newspapers for weeks. His no answer

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<v Speaker 1>obviously referred to some point prior to Wall Street Journal's

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<v Speaker 1>first report on the Comb payment in January of when

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<v Speaker 1>he said no, it was in April of and time matters.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll explain more on the other side of the spreak here,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we're gonna go over what I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>the more relevant points of the interview that were missed.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought the mayor laid out a devastating case

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<v Speaker 1>against many individuals right as we roll along Sean Hannity Show,

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<v Speaker 1>so much that you know, the fake news brigade out

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<v Speaker 1>there having a mount. Julianni's statement me, is it Trump

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<v Speaker 1>lied when he was on Air Force one and he

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<v Speaker 1>said no when he was asked about you know, did

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<v Speaker 1>he know about Stormy Daniel's payment. Well, when Trump issued

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<v Speaker 1>that one word initial denial, it was on April five.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it was obvious what he was saying is that

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<v Speaker 1>he took it to me. I didn't know in advance

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<v Speaker 1>that the payment was made. There's no Hillary gets all

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<v Speaker 1>the benefit of the doubt. Yeah, well, she deleted the

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<v Speaker 1>subpoena emails, national washed the hard drive, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>foreign agency's picked up on our emails. And yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>put it in a mom and pop shop closet where

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<v Speaker 1>it became vulnerable and even classified top secret Special Access

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<v Speaker 1>Program information. She gets a pass on everything. Donald Trump said,

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<v Speaker 1>did you know about the payment? No? In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't know about it in advance. That's consistent with

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<v Speaker 1>everything Michael Cone has said. In other words, the Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Khne took it upon himself, which would be part of

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<v Speaker 1>his job. I assume working in the Trump organization and

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<v Speaker 1>jump on grenades, and that's what he did. It's problem

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<v Speaker 1>arises his job. They call him the fixer. Oh, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a he's handed, he's fixed. No, he's not Hannity's fixer.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's never done any case for me, never

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<v Speaker 1>involved with any third party with me. So anyway, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but by the time the press asked the President if

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<v Speaker 1>he knew about the payment, of course he knew. He

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<v Speaker 1>knew because it was talked about night and day twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four seven, it was everywhere. So it is no answer

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<v Speaker 1>referred to. You know, at some point prior to the

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street Journal's first report on comb Uh, he didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a simple answer, but it's deep and it's profound,

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<v Speaker 1>and it shows how corrupt the news media in this

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<v Speaker 1>country is. On February, Michael Cohen said, neither the Trump

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<v Speaker 1>organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the

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<v Speaker 1>transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment,

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<v Speaker 1>either directly or indirectly. What Cone didn't deny in the

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<v Speaker 1>statement was the possibility that the president had reimbursed him

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<v Speaker 1>out of his own personal funds, as Mayor Juliani said,

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<v Speaker 1>which would be perfectly legal. Alright, thank you, Scott Channon.

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<v Speaker 1>Glad you with us right down our toll free number.

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<v Speaker 1>It's eight nine one, Shawn, if you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the program. I don't want to belabor this.

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<v Speaker 1>April fifth, the question of Trump was did you know

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<v Speaker 1>about out the hundred and thirty thou dollar payment? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you know? Past tense? The question was not when did

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<v Speaker 1>you know it? Was did you know that Michael Cone

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<v Speaker 1>had paid it? And he said no, and that's consistent

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<v Speaker 1>with what Michael Cone said. That is a percent consistent.

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<v Speaker 1>And these idiots in the news media are just dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>They're dumb and their sheep, and they're overpaid, and they're lazy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they're lazy because they have to run my

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<v Speaker 1>tapes all day long because they can't do their own work.

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<v Speaker 1>And part of the reason is because they're obsessed with

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<v Speaker 1>anything that's about destroying and delegitimizing the president, not about

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<v Speaker 1>doing real honest reporting about deep state corruption. They'll leave

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<v Speaker 1>that to me. They'll leave the vetting of Obama to me.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll laugh at oh hand, any things Trump cann't win

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<v Speaker 1>and they think it's funny he's the chief of staff.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the next day he doesn't know a thing. These

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<v Speaker 1>people are pathetic. So if Trump found out about the

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<v Speaker 1>payment after the journal, after the Wall Street Journal broke

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<v Speaker 1>the story on January, and the question was did you

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<v Speaker 1>know about the payment, and he says no, he's telling

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<v Speaker 1>the truth. That is consistent with what Michael Cohen said.

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<v Speaker 1>So everybody, all this analysis is just backwards, asked backwards

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<v Speaker 1>and wrong as usual. In fact, Trump still didn't lie.

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<v Speaker 1>If he found out about the payment at any point

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<v Speaker 1>after Cone made it, which was I guess what at

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<v Speaker 1>some point in October, Because the question was clearly intended

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<v Speaker 1>to find out if Trump had four knowledge of that payment,

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<v Speaker 1>whether he ordered Cone to make that payment. Cohn says no,

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<v Speaker 1>The President says no. And if he didn't know about

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<v Speaker 1>the payment before Cohne met it made it, then the

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<v Speaker 1>President didn't lie. Unbelievable alright. Eight one. Now we have

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<v Speaker 1>a report out today and it looks like the illegal

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<v Speaker 1>surveillance of President Trump's associates might have continued up to

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks ago. NBC News is reporting that Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Mueller wire tapped phone calls between Trump and his personal attorney,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Cone. Look, I I don't know what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>justification did they have for this. Maybe they used the

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<v Speaker 1>bulk of the information in the docier, just like they

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<v Speaker 1>did to obtain the fiz awarrants. Who knows what they used.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they've offered nothing whatsoever that would justify this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of egregious violation of attorney client privilege. Let it

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<v Speaker 1>loan every American's basic right to privacy. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the whole issue with with illegal surveillance. And I'm masking

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<v Speaker 1>and no minimization. And you know, then leaking raw intellig

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<v Speaker 1>and Samantha Power is unmasking at a rate of one

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<v Speaker 1>a day. You know, we still have to get back

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<v Speaker 1>into that scandal. You know, I don't care if a

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic judge signed off on on this. There has to

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<v Speaker 1>be a justification just cause otherwise it's unconstitutional. Otherwise we're

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<v Speaker 1>back to the same tactics that appeared to be used

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<v Speaker 1>in the case of lying to the FISA court judges

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<v Speaker 1>in their application and subsequent renewal applications. Just by on

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<v Speaker 1>Carter page, a Trump campaign associates the bulk of information

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<v Speaker 1>was provided by a docier that Hillary Clinton paid for

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<v Speaker 1>that was unverified and uncorroborated. Well, I'm telling you that

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<v Speaker 1>we are living in really dangerous times here. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this gets really serious. If you believe in the rule

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<v Speaker 1>of law, equal justice under the law, if you believe

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<v Speaker 1>in equal applications of the law, if you believe in

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<v Speaker 1>the constitution of your against unreasonable search and seizure. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>federal investigators of wire tapped the phone lines of Michael Cohen,

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<v Speaker 1>longtime personal lawyer for President Donald Trump, under investigation for

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<v Speaker 1>a payment he made etcetera, etcetera. It all goes back

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<v Speaker 1>to their obsession over the porn star. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>unclear whether what incriminating information, but they also are saying

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<v Speaker 1>that one of the calls was to the White House. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he represented Trump and the Trump organization and its

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<v Speaker 1>business dealings I think for about two decades before Trump

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<v Speaker 1>was president. You know, Robert Muller is interested in information

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<v Speaker 1>that federal investigators in New York would pick up. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if if that was the case, you know, was the

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<v Speaker 1>was the government made aware of it? Two sources according

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<v Speaker 1>to the U. S. Attorney's Office and FBI, they declined comment.

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<v Speaker 1>Two sources close to Rudy Juliani say he learned that

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<v Speaker 1>day's after the raid, the President had made a call

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<v Speaker 1>to Michael own. I know why he made a call

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<v Speaker 1>to Michael Cohnan's obvious because he's worked with him for

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<v Speaker 1>all these years, and he feels bad for somebody he

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<v Speaker 1>considered a friend and probably likely Um As a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, I know every one of his lawyers said

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<v Speaker 1>don't do it, but he did it anyway because he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to support his friend and he wasn't gonna abandon

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<v Speaker 1>him in a time of need, which is what I

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<v Speaker 1>think good people should do. Anyway, the former U S

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney Chuck Rosenberg and NBC analysts said that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>high bar for having a wire tap approved. This is

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<v Speaker 1>an acting This is an exacting process where the government

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<v Speaker 1>must demonstrate to a federal judge that there is an

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<v Speaker 1>ongoing crime. That's a high bar. Except the FISA Court,

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<v Speaker 1>they have a high bar to the highest bar. They

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<v Speaker 1>approved the surveillance warrant on a Trump associate and the

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<v Speaker 1>lead up to a campaign which extended to the entire

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<v Speaker 1>Trump transition team later on the basis and then the

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<v Speaker 1>residency later on the basis of the political hallucination that

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<v Speaker 1>was bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton and company.

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<v Speaker 1>So if it's a high bar, I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>get to details of what actually happened here, which we

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<v Speaker 1>will eventually will get to. May take us a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Took us a long time to find out Hillary paid

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<v Speaker 1>for that phony dossier and what happened with that DOSSI

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<v Speaker 1>March eighth of seventeen, Sarah Carter and John Solomon on

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<v Speaker 1>This program broke the story that there had been a

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<v Speaker 1>fiser warrant issued with Trump Tower in relation to the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump campaign, nobody paid attention to it. And then slowly

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<v Speaker 1>but surely, look at all we learned in a year

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<v Speaker 1>and how all of this has now come out. We

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<v Speaker 1>have some other interesting stuff in all of this. Judicial

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<v Speaker 1>Watch is now suing the d o J. For fiser

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<v Speaker 1>hearing transcripts that are tied to the Clinton d n

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<v Speaker 1>C dossier. By the way, I think the American people

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<v Speaker 1>need to see these applications and these renewal applications, and

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<v Speaker 1>there were original application they need to see who signed them,

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<v Speaker 1>like Rob Rosenstein signed off on one, which would render him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, somebody that is conflicted out of all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a this motion that is now pending

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<v Speaker 1>before the FISA Court by some journalists. You know, there

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<v Speaker 1>is a specific rule of procedure in the FISA Court

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<v Speaker 1>law that requires the government to correct any material misstatement

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<v Speaker 1>of omission from an application immediately. Well, we now know

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<v Speaker 1>that through the Grassly Grand Memo, the bulk of information

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<v Speaker 1>presented to the FISA Court was the Clinton bought and

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<v Speaker 1>paid for foreign national Christopher Steele Russian propaganda and lie document.

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<v Speaker 1>All has the correction been made on the record. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to interview the the judges that were lied to

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<v Speaker 1>and manipulated. Here, Oh, a little asterisk may have a

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<v Speaker 1>slight political tape. Yeah, Hillary paid for the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>opposition party research. You know, there's a lot of questions

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<v Speaker 1>that that I'm telling you all of these guys are

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<v Speaker 1>eventually going to have to answer. You know, look at

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<v Speaker 1>the story that has been out there about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all these rich Democrats, you know, continuing to pay Christopher

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<v Speaker 1>steel On hiring Fusion GPS, still looking to corroborate the cookers,

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<v Speaker 1>uring on urinating on the bed story. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>you might as well assume it never happened. Like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the information and there's outright lies and propaganda.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Hillary was paying for and Fusion GPS

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<v Speaker 1>is feeding to the media. That's called manipulating the American people.

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<v Speaker 1>And the lead up to an election. Not exactly surprising

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<v Speaker 1>because that Republicans, conservatives are always maligned before elections, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Julianne he's saying last night, the Mueller probe is total,

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<v Speaker 1>totally garbage. The investigation, you know, calls James Comey a

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<v Speaker 1>disgraceful liar and he's a perverted man. When he said

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<v Speaker 1>about Hillary Oh, she respects the rule of law, Julianni

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<v Speaker 1>saying Mueller's questions reveal a desperate attempt to trap President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump into perjury. The Special Council would like to interview

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<v Speaker 1>the president. There's no secret about that. Every lawyer in

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<v Speaker 1>America thinks he shouldn't be. We meeting myself and j.

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<v Speaker 1>S Ecalo and the Raskins and all the people involved

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<v Speaker 1>in the investigation, and now our new colleague, uh Emmett Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have to decide. Probably fallsmore on us because

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<v Speaker 1>he's on the government side, whether the president should granted interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what it's all about. It's real simple. American people

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<v Speaker 1>can follow this along with me. Are they objective? Are

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<v Speaker 1>they well? Right now? A lot of things point in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the direction of they made up their mind.

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<v Speaker 1>The Comey's own the truth and not the president. When

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<v Speaker 1>you look at those questions about what does the president think,

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<v Speaker 1>what does the president feel, what does the president really desire?

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<v Speaker 1>Those are all questions intended to trap him in some

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<v Speaker 1>way in contradictoring what is in fact a very very

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<v Speaker 1>uh solid explanation of what happened. And then with the

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Post News, this week that in fact, Robert Mueller

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<v Speaker 1>has talked about a subpoena of the president, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as Dershowitz and others point, that doesn't leave the president

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<v Speaker 1>without any options. You know, he could bring a challenge

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<v Speaker 1>to court on any subpoena that Mulla brings and can

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<v Speaker 1>go to a federal district court, the Court of Appeals,

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<v Speaker 1>the U. S. Supreme Court that you can subpoena president

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<v Speaker 1>in a criminal case in front of a grand jury,

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<v Speaker 1>and he probably lose the broad issue. But then he

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<v Speaker 1>can argue, you can't ask a president why he engaged

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<v Speaker 1>in acts that are authorized under Article two of the Constitution.

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<v Speaker 1>That is an easy argument to win, in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they can argue they get they can't ask

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<v Speaker 1>him questions that go beyond the scope of the special

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<v Speaker 1>counsel's authority, namely, you know, to any business dealings of

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 1>the president or what he thinks of people, as if

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 1>thinking is somehow, in some way a crime, you know.

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 1>And then they could challenge Rod Rosenstein's position to a

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<v Speaker 1>point in the first place, considering he signed off on

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<v Speaker 1>one of the FISA warrants and he himself would be

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 1>a you know, witness a in the case, and there's

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:35.680
<v Speaker 1>so much to get to all of this that is

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:41.200
<v Speaker 1>just unbelievable. Now. The President um responded to the the

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Cone part of this on Twitter today. As a Mr Cohne,

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<v Speaker 1>an attorney received a monthly retainer not from the campaign,

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 1>having nothing to do with the campaign from which he

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 1>entered into through reimbursement, a private contract between two parties,

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 1>known as a non disclosure agreement or n d A.

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 1>These agreements are very com and amongst celebrities and people

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:04.920
<v Speaker 1>of wealth. In this case it is full force and

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 1>effect will be used in arbitration for damages against Ms

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Clifford Daniels. The agreement was used to stop the false

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and extortionist accusations made by her about an affair, despite

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 1>already having signed a detailed letter admitting there was no

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 1>affair prior to its violation by Miss Clifford and her attorney.

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:28.879
<v Speaker 1>This was a private agreement. Money from the campaign or

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 1>campaign contributions played no role in this transaction. Oh, I mean,

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you know? The timeline fits perfectly into

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump not knowing and in his answers, Um, you know,

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>he actually quoted John Dowd, who was one of visitors

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>to This isn't some game. You know, you're screwing with

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>the work of the president of the United States of America,

0:28:56.200 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 1>and with North Korea and China and the Middle East

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>and so much more. There's not much time to be

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 1>thinking about this, especially when there was no Russia collusion

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 1>and the President's right, you know, a rigged system, you know,

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 1>look at look at how their stonewalling Devin Newnesses Committee

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>and Trey Gowdy's committee and Bob Goodlad's committee. They don't

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 1>want to turn over documents. The President tweeted out to Congress,

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>what are they are afraid of? And we know what

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>they're afraid of. We know they're gonna get exposed. You know,

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 1>why so much redacting? Why why such unequal justice? At

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 1>some point I will have no choice but to use

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 1>the powers granted to the presidency and get involved. I

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>can see that day coming, I really can. You know,

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the questions are an intrusion into the president's Article two

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>powers under the Constitution that he has the right to

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 1>fire any executive branch employee. What the president was was

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 1>what what the president thinking is outrageous while he was

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>thinking this, but he didn't do it. He's thinking that,

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>but he didn't do it. It's we're gonna hold people

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>responsible for thought crimes. Now, this is all insanity, and

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>this is a mass media left wing Democratic Party psychosis

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>that has taken over and it started at the moment

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 1>it became apparent that Donald Trump was winning the presidency

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 1>and their beloved Hillary lost. Now it's the insurance policy

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 1>time of struck Page and McCabe. This is all the

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>insurance policy. Al Right, So what happens if, in fact

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Robert Muller's subpoenas the president before a grand jury? What?

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 1>We have three great lawyers gonna join us for the

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:51.239
<v Speaker 1>full We're gonna go over everything the interview last night

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>with Rudy. Uh, David Shona is coming in, Greg Jarrett

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 1>and Jay Christian Adams. We're gonna analyze every aspect of

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 1>that interview. What the president's options are, Uh, is there

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 1>any legal jeopardy? And how would you deal with Robert

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Muller and his very band of democratic donors and unethical lawyers.

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Is that's basically who we appointed. I love Brudy's answer

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 1>on that last night. Alright, quick break eight nine for

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 1>one seawn are toll free telephone number and later in

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 1>the program, will check in with Byron york A much

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>more right as we continue our to Sean Hannity's show,

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 1>complete legal analysis of all the issues that I discussed

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>with the President's attorney, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 1>But NBC is now reporting that Michael Cohen, the attorney

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>for the Trump organization, UH, that apparently we what we

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 1>know is federal investigators pursuing to a lawful court order warrant,

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 1>we're able to wire tap the phone lines of Trump

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 1>personal attorney Michael Cone. That is a wire tap that

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>occurred several weeks before the now public search warrant that

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 1>was executed New York several weeks ago. And they went

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>on to say at least one phone call between Cone

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 1>and the White House was recorded, and Trump, of course

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 1>at the time, railed against the raid, as did Rudy

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Giuliani last night. UM. Anyway, let's get our panel in here.

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>We have David Shown with US Criminal and Civil Liberties Attorney.

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 1>We have j. Christian Adams is the President of the

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Public Interest of the Legal found Legal Foundation, editor of

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 1>PJ Media, Greg Jarrett, Fox News Legal Analysts, UH, and

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 1>author of the upcoming book, The Russian Hoax, The illicit

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 1>scheme to clear Hillary Clinton and framed Donald Trump. Welcome

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 1>all of you back to the program. David Shone will

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<v Speaker 1>begin with you. Well, I assume, or have to assume,

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 1>or should I even assume in light of what what

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<v Speaker 1>what happened in the lead up to the FISA warrants

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 1>where in fact FISA judges were lied to UH and

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>information was purposely omitted. But I have to assume that

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 1>the Fed's got a legal wire tap against Michael Cone here.

0:32:57.120 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, we can make that assumption, but

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 1>in every single case, and especially this one, those applications

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 1>have to be examined carefully. Um, we know now from

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 1>the history that there's a history of misstatement and omission,

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 1>both which in the FISA court are particularly troubling. It

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>would be troubling for any surveillance application. And again this

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>is the most intrusive kind titles for the application listening

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>in on phone conversations and the phone conversations of an attorney.

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 1>The Department of Justice has a special set of regulations

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 1>for this kind of thing. So we have to make

0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 1>sure every eye was doubted, every he was crossed, and

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 1>that the underlying information was reliable. Um, so many things

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:39.200
<v Speaker 1>to check, Greg Jarrett, your initial thoughts on this, and

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 1>apparently there was one call to the White House. Now

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Rudy Giuliani had made the comment earlier today that in

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 1>fact the President would have been would have had to

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:53.720
<v Speaker 1>have been given a heads up if in fact it

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 1>was him or or at any point. But I guess

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:58.239
<v Speaker 1>it could have been anybody at the White House, right

0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:02.400
<v Speaker 1>he it It's hard to know. Look, this is completely

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>separate from the FAI s acchord. This, the d o

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>J would have had to have gone to a federal

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:13.359
<v Speaker 1>district court judge. And under the Fourth Amendment, a surveillance

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 1>wire tap as a searching seas or you have to

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:18.880
<v Speaker 1>have probable cause, which is you know, it's an important

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>standard and there are, as David pointing out guidelines in

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the d o J Guideline book. Let's say this is

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 1>what this is the burden you have to sustain. And

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.400
<v Speaker 1>assuming they followed that, then a judge would have signed

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<v Speaker 1>off on it. Uh my my senses, the president knows

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>that when he has conversations that that they can be

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 1>listened in on and uh, you know, he wouldn't have

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:47.360
<v Speaker 1>said anything. I suspect that would have been incriminating. He

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.239
<v Speaker 1>probably spent the time just saying this is outrageous that

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:54.359
<v Speaker 1>they rated your office. In his conversation with Michael Cone, well,

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I've gotta why would I think that the President of

0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 1>the United States, more than anybody, should have the most

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 1>secure line of anyone. Well, I mean, they actually record

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:09.399
<v Speaker 1>some of their conversations that go through the switchboard. Uh.

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>And you know when you go through the switchboard, they

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 1>notify you that some some conversations are recorded. So, I mean,

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I think the president is very guarded. Um, and I

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 1>doubt that he would have said anything knowing that they're

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:26.320
<v Speaker 1>a rat had taking place. I mean, look, he's a

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 1>smart guy. If they had just rated Michael Cohen's office,

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 1>he probably knew somebody's listening in on this. What is

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:36.799
<v Speaker 1>your too quick? Too quick? Two quick points, I'm sorry,

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I just want to jump in two very specific technical points.

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<v Speaker 1>Number One, there is a minimization requirements under Title three

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:44.920
<v Speaker 1>in this case. That is, once they see that the

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 1>conversation doesn't relate to the purpose of its investigation, they

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 1>must stop listening to that conversation. That's going to be

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:54.319
<v Speaker 1>interesting to see the follow here. Well, but but hang on, David,

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>we know because we dealt with the surveillance issue a lot,

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 1>and we dealt with wired Uh. The for example, when

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 1>you have surveillance, you're supposed to Yes, if it's an

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 1>American citizen, you're supposed to minimize. But not only did

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 1>they not minimize, then they leaked raw intelligence and one

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:18.320
<v Speaker 1>victim of that was General Flynn. Because that intelligence was leaked.

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:22.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, remember unmasking took place at a level of

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:25.439
<v Speaker 1>one a day by Samantha Power, who was in fact

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 1>the UN ambassador. Why would the UN ambassador be unmasking

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>one American a day? Yep. The second point doesn't any

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 1>aggrieved person meaning anyone picked up on this tap as

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 1>standing to challenge it and because their privacy was invaded too? Sorry, Jay,

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Christian Adams want to get your thoughts. That's laughable. I

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 1>thought a tease cross guidelines all that's that's obsolete talk, Sean.

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 1>We now have a Justice department that doesn't care about guidelines.

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:58.400
<v Speaker 1>They've been unmasking private citizens. You're right, they did it

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 1>to Mike Flynn. They they they suck in conversations. Uh,

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:06.800
<v Speaker 1>the people have with targets like Michael Cohene and his

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 1>former client, the president. That's what this was all about.

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:14.840
<v Speaker 1>This is about a muscular, aggressive anti Trump FBI and

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:18.799
<v Speaker 1>Justice Department doing what it can to undermine the presidency.

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 1>You mean you think that they went to Michael Cohen

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>so they can listen in on his conversations with the president.

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that they went to Michael Cohen because they

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 1>have disregard, disregard for the boundaries that used to constrain

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:33.959
<v Speaker 1>the department in the FBI, this is a political witch

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:36.720
<v Speaker 1>hunt against the President and anybody who supported the president.

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:39.719
<v Speaker 1>It's designed to bankrupt them like it is doing to

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Michael Flynn and others. This is an all out war

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:46.480
<v Speaker 1>by the left using the institution of government to undermine

0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 1>them by criminalizing political differences. Well, that's what Alan Dershowitz

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 1>has been saying. You know, it's it's amazing what the

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:57.360
<v Speaker 1>media only has wanted to pick up on, which I

0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:01.840
<v Speaker 1>find pretty fascinating, and that is is Rudy Giuliani's comments

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 1>about the issue involving well the president paying back or

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 1>keeping Michael Cohen on a retainer. Uh. Meanwhile, he talked

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:14.800
<v Speaker 1>about Mueller's questions are intended to trap Trump. Meanwhile, he

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:18.400
<v Speaker 1>talked about Comey being a disgraceful liar. Meanwhile he mentioned

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Hillary as a criminal. Meanwhile he said Comey should be

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:27.399
<v Speaker 1>prosecuted for leaking confidential FBI information. And uh. He also

0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 1>goes on to say, you know about Robert Mueller and

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 1>this whole thing, that it needs to go away, and

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 1>that Jeff Sessions and Rod Rosenstein need to make it

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 1>go away. And um, and all of these things have

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 1>been ignored. You know, we'll go to cut ten here. Um.

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I was actually in the beginning, I was asking the mayor.

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I was asking the in the capacity of the attorney

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 1>for the President about Perkins Cooey in that particular case

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 1>where money was funneled. And then he brought up the

0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:59.800
<v Speaker 1>issue of the repayment to Michael Cohen, are you concerned

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 1>in the process of this, we did discover that a

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 1>foreign national, Christopher Steele, was paid through Fusion GPS, used

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Russian sources that not only weren't verified with debunked. Are

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 1>you concerned that that was paid for to manipulate the

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:19.799
<v Speaker 1>American people in the lead up to an election. Isn't

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:23.319
<v Speaker 1>that closer to the mandate than Michael Cohen? Why isn't

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>that having that, sir, having having having something to do

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:30.360
<v Speaker 1>with paying some Stormy Daniels woman a hundred and thirties thousand,

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, which is going to turn out to be

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>perfectly legal. That that money was not campaign money. Sorry,

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:37.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm giving you a fact now that you don't know.

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 1>It's not campaign money, no campaign finance violation. So they

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:45.759
<v Speaker 1>funneled it through the law firm, funnel through m and

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 1>the President repaid it. Oh, I didn't know he did.

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 1>There's no campaign finance law zero. So the press, like

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 1>every sean, so with this decision was made by everybody,

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 1>everybody was nervous about this from the very beginning. I

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:01.279
<v Speaker 1>wasn't I knew how much money Donald Trump put into

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 1>that campaign. I said, a hundred thirty thousand, But they're

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna you're gonna do a couple of checks for a hundred.

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:09.839
<v Speaker 1>When I heard Cohen's retainer of thirty five thousand, when

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 1>he was doing no work for the president, I said,

0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:15.000
<v Speaker 1>that's how he's repaying that's how how how he's repaying

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:17.440
<v Speaker 1>it with a little profit and a little margin fit

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:20.400
<v Speaker 1>paying taxes for Michael the president. Do you know the

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:23.880
<v Speaker 1>President didn't know about this? Uh? I believe that he

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't know about the specifics of it as far as

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I know, but he didn't know about the general arrangement

0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 1>that Michael would take care of things like this, like

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I take care of things like this for my clients.

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't burden them with every single thing that comes along. Uh,

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:39.320
<v Speaker 1>there's a busy people. And then he went on to

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<v Speaker 1>say that he had a retainer. Now, at no time

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 1>everyone saying in the press that what he contradicted him.

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:49.439
<v Speaker 1>He's saying he paid him on a retainer and that yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be compensation for the job that he did

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<v Speaker 1>here and pay back for it. Um. But I remember

0:40:56.520 --> 0:41:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Michael Cohen saying Greg Jarrett that he didn't inform him

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:02.959
<v Speaker 1>the president and he originally did use his own money.

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:06.320
<v Speaker 1>And I mean, everyone's trying to break Rodeo over the coals,

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:10.839
<v Speaker 1>but I don't see anything inconsistent in their stories. There

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:14.280
<v Speaker 1>isn't Trump paid Cone a certain amount of money each month,

0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:17.799
<v Speaker 1>both his compensation and to take care of business. Cohen

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 1>made a hundred and thirty thousand dollar payment over time.

0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 1>He then reimbursed himself from his monthly retainer. It is

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly legal. It is also perfectly legal to pay somebody

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<v Speaker 1>for them to stay quiet and go waste done every

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<v Speaker 1>day in contracts. If it can be shown, as Giuliani

0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 1>states that Trump reimbursed Cohen, that eliminates any campaign finance problem.

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Was it an in kind contribution? No, as long as

0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:50.400
<v Speaker 1>there was another purpose, of personal purpose. So this should

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:54.320
<v Speaker 1>actually exculpate both Trump and Cone, it seems because that

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:56.759
<v Speaker 1>was not the question I was asking that that was

0:41:56.880 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 1>something that he wanted to say. J Christian Adams, Right,

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:04.920
<v Speaker 1>only the most radical and zealous campaign finance UH law

0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:07.919
<v Speaker 1>interpretation would make this a campaign finance violation. All Sean,

0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:10.440
<v Speaker 1>there are people who won the federal government to have

0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:12.840
<v Speaker 1>that much power, but right now it doesn't. So it

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:15.279
<v Speaker 1>is not a campaign finance violation because it's not a

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:18.759
<v Speaker 1>campaign expense. It's that simple. It was an unrelated event.

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:23.799
<v Speaker 1>If that was a campaign finance violation, Bill Clinton would

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:27.200
<v Speaker 1>probably have been prosecuted how many times by now because

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:29.720
<v Speaker 1>of all the money that was throwing around to protect

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:32.880
<v Speaker 1>his history. So this is not a campaign finance violation.

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:36.320
<v Speaker 1>What's your take, David Show, I don't agree that the

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 1>question is resolved based on whether campaign funds were used,

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:43.560
<v Speaker 1>as was suggested last night. But the whole idea that

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 1>this is a campaign contribution, in k contribution, unreported contribution

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 1>is absolute nonsense. It's not just that people do this

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:53.279
<v Speaker 1>all the time. And that's a very good point, is

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 1>that Mr Trump has done it in the past without

0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 1>any regard to any election. Ever, it's a private matter

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Mr Trump wanted to keep private. Listen, all kinds of

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:07.439
<v Speaker 1>cases are settled on confidential terms every day of the week,

0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:10.400
<v Speaker 1>not just this kind of nondisclosure agreement. But this is

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:14.279
<v Speaker 1>particularly personal. Um. So you know, this is the most

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 1>radical take, as Mr Adams said, and that's to take.

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid Mr Mueller is going to try to put

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:21.840
<v Speaker 1>on it. But that's a tough case to make. Doesn't

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:25.319
<v Speaker 1>past the last time, And as we continue, we're gonna

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 1>do this for the hour because there's so much to

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 1>get into here. UM. From the interview with Rudy Julianni

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 1>tonight and as subsequent interviews that he did after our

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 1>show last night, David shown criminal and civil rights attorney,

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 1>civil liberties attorney J. Christian Adams as the president of

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 1>the Public Interest Legal Foundation, Editor PJ Media, Greg jareded

0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Fox News legal analysts. UM let me get to the

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:54.719
<v Speaker 1>question of what he said about James Comey. He called

0:43:54.760 --> 0:44:00.480
<v Speaker 1>him a disgraceful liar, and then I asked him specific Now, Greg,

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:06.399
<v Speaker 1>you've chronicled exactly the wrong things that call Mey has done. Um,

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:09.320
<v Speaker 1>where are the lies that he's talking about that he

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:15.080
<v Speaker 1>said should actually he should be prosecutor for leaking? Well, Um,

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:20.840
<v Speaker 1>he appeared to have exonerated Hillary Clinton for political purposes.

0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:23.080
<v Speaker 1>That would be a felony. It's a crime to steal

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:27.320
<v Speaker 1>government documents. That's a felony. Um. If any of the

0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:32.279
<v Speaker 1>presidential memos he took home included classified documents, which is

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:36.440
<v Speaker 1>what the FBI now says, that is also a felony.

0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:40.480
<v Speaker 1>And then there's potentially lying to Congress. He testified that

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:43.840
<v Speaker 1>he made the decision to clear Clinton after she was interviewed.

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Documents prove otherwise. Also, was there a lie by omission

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:51.960
<v Speaker 1>when he only admitted to giving the documents to one

0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 1>person but it turned out to be three. That would

0:44:55.239 --> 0:45:00.520
<v Speaker 1>be a false and misleading statement. Eighteen USC. One thousand

0:45:01.160 --> 0:45:05.600
<v Speaker 1>and one. Yes, if you omit a material fact under

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:09.600
<v Speaker 1>the statute that's relevant to the inquiry, you're guilty of

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:14.560
<v Speaker 1>that felony. David yeah, but I gotta say this, the

0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:19.200
<v Speaker 1>bigger pictured thing to me, that interview was absolutely amazing,

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:23.080
<v Speaker 1>just that to have Rudy Giuliani like them or hate him.

0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Rudy Giuliani is known for one thing in the world

0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:28.279
<v Speaker 1>besides being mayor, and that's for being a prosecutor, a

0:45:28.360 --> 0:45:31.279
<v Speaker 1>hard nosed prosecutor who fought to get every single case

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:34.080
<v Speaker 1>he could get credit for it, et cetera. To put

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 1>everybody away forever. For Rudy Giuliani to say, Comey is

0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:42.279
<v Speaker 1>a liar and the investigation is garbage, you may say, well,

0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:45.359
<v Speaker 1>he's Trump's lawyer. Now. One thing Rudy Giuliani isn't doing

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 1>is selling out his credentials as a prosecutor. To hear

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:51.480
<v Speaker 1>it from him, the same reason that people want to hear,

0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:53.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, the civil liberties issues from Dirty with I suppose,

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:58.120
<v Speaker 1>but to hear from Giuliani Comey, who he knows very well, Mueller,

0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:00.920
<v Speaker 1>who he knows very well, old ends. For him to

0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:03.799
<v Speaker 1>use that kind of language on National TV on your

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:07.359
<v Speaker 1>show is a major coup. We'll pick it up there.

0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:09.959
<v Speaker 1>We'll pick up with Jake Christian Adams and David Shown

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:12.800
<v Speaker 1>and Greg Jarrett eight hundred nine for one. Shawn is

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:14.520
<v Speaker 1>a toll free telephone number if you want to be

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:18.080
<v Speaker 1>a part of the program. We have Daniel McLachlin Jonathan

0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Gilham also coming up a much more in incredible Hannity

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:25.120
<v Speaker 1>tonight at nine quick Break. Right back, we'll continue. Commy

0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:29.839
<v Speaker 1>should be prosecuted for leaking UH confidential FBI information when

0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:34.879
<v Speaker 1>he leaked his report intended to develop a special prosecutor

0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:38.399
<v Speaker 1>for the President of the United States. I have never

0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:42.279
<v Speaker 1>ever turned over a doctor. You know me, Sean, you

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:46.120
<v Speaker 1>know me, want s attorney UH A lot of allegations

0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:50.200
<v Speaker 1>to mother mob. Never leaked a damn thing. I would

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:53.880
<v Speaker 1>have considered resigning if I ever did that, or if

0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 1>one of my assistants did. Did the FBI League, did

0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 1>the SEC League? I'm sorry, guys, you did all right?

0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:02.279
<v Speaker 1>That was really Juliani and the exclusive interview that I

0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 1>had with him last night. We continue with our legal panel.

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:09.920
<v Speaker 1>We have Civil Liberties Attorney, Criminal Um Criminal defense attorney

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:13.720
<v Speaker 1>David Shown J. Christian Adams, President of the Public Interest

0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Legal Foundation, Editor of PJ Media, Greg Jarrett, fact Fox

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:20.920
<v Speaker 1>News legal analyst, author of the upcoming book The Russia Hoax,

0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:25.839
<v Speaker 1>The Illicit Scheme to clear Hillary Clinton and frame Donald Trump. Uh,

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:28.719
<v Speaker 1>let me go to you, J Christian Adams, and and

0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:33.560
<v Speaker 1>let's go to those specific comments. Comey is a disgraceful liar.

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Comey should be prosecuted for leaking. Well, Rudy's right because

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:41.520
<v Speaker 1>not only is he even leaking, he's been profiting from it.

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:44.320
<v Speaker 1>But Rudy talked about something else very important, and that

0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:47.319
<v Speaker 1>is McCabe. Don't forget Andrew McCabe, number two guy at

0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:49.920
<v Speaker 1>the FBI, working closely with Comey. The two of them

0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:53.839
<v Speaker 1>were a pair of liars. McCabe violated eighteen USC one

0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:56.440
<v Speaker 1>zero zero one, which has put plenty of people in

0:47:56.560 --> 0:48:00.360
<v Speaker 1>jail multiple times. He did it an inspector general interview

0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:02.840
<v Speaker 1>under oath. He did it in front of FBI agent

0:48:02.880 --> 0:48:05.799
<v Speaker 1>thunder oath. I mean, Sean, he should have been hauled

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:08.719
<v Speaker 1>in front of the grand jury and indicted a week ago.

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not in hard case to prove. So

0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:14.320
<v Speaker 1>what's going on with Jesse lou the U S attorney

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:17.839
<v Speaker 1>in d C or Rod Rosenstein. What's going on? Why

0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 1>isn't this happening? Well, I think that's why it was

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:23.400
<v Speaker 1>so important. Greg jareded that when I asked Rudy Julianni,

0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 1>do we have a dual justice system? He said yes,

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:30.719
<v Speaker 1>and that was the best line of the night. There

0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:34.840
<v Speaker 1>there's actually three systems. There's there's the system for Hillary Clinton,

0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:39.160
<v Speaker 1>in which everything she does is okay. There's the system

0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:41.759
<v Speaker 1>for the rest of the United States, you and me

0:48:41.800 --> 0:48:44.040
<v Speaker 1>and everybody else, in which we have to abide by

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:48.280
<v Speaker 1>the law. And then there's the third system of justice,

0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 1>which is the Trump system. If he so much as sneezes,

0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:56.160
<v Speaker 1>it's a crime, according to East top officials at the

0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice in FBI and David Shone, you agree

0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:02.560
<v Speaker 1>with that too. I mean, look, I talked about it,

0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:05.359
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not wasn't really even in Jess last night

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:09.000
<v Speaker 1>because if they want to interview the president, okay, well,

0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:11.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, the questions are a little absurd, and and

0:49:11.960 --> 0:49:13.640
<v Speaker 1>we've all pointed out, well, what do you think of

0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:16.360
<v Speaker 1>comys Tessa? Who cares what he thinks? What do you

0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 1>think about Sessions were accusal? Who cares what he thinks

0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:22.880
<v Speaker 1>or what he thinks about Robert Muller. It's irrelevant to

0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:27.239
<v Speaker 1>anything in this case. But there are things that are

0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:30.000
<v Speaker 1>relevant in this case, and that is, do we have

0:49:30.080 --> 0:49:34.000
<v Speaker 1>a dual justice system. Was Hillary Clinton, did she violate

0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:36.560
<v Speaker 1>the law at a high level and was she given

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:40.560
<v Speaker 1>a rigged investigation? Because if that's the case, we don't

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:43.759
<v Speaker 1>have equal justice under the law in America. Right right

0:49:43.840 --> 0:49:46.120
<v Speaker 1>there there, there's a basis for the expression of the

0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:48.759
<v Speaker 1>government of laws, not of men or women. Um, and

0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:51.759
<v Speaker 1>that's what we're seeing here. Unfortunately, we're seeing personalities and

0:49:52.080 --> 0:49:55.400
<v Speaker 1>personal agendas take over the justice system. I don't like

0:49:55.520 --> 0:49:57.680
<v Speaker 1>to talk in sort of tripe phrases, but we heard

0:49:57.680 --> 0:50:00.520
<v Speaker 1>about drain the swamp. If ever that would be applied

0:50:00.560 --> 0:50:03.440
<v Speaker 1>in this situation, it's got to be with the Justice Department.

0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:06.560
<v Speaker 1>D Rosen has to be out. We have to start

0:50:06.640 --> 0:50:08.439
<v Speaker 1>fresh here. We have to take a whole new look

0:50:08.480 --> 0:50:11.960
<v Speaker 1>at this special council. Special counsel investigations take on a

0:50:12.000 --> 0:50:14.520
<v Speaker 1>life of their own under the best of circumstances. But

0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:18.160
<v Speaker 1>here there's a definite agenda, a political agenda, and this

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:21.360
<v Speaker 1>that has infected the process and has become a government

0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:24.520
<v Speaker 1>of men. It cannot be I don't think we've suscratched

0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:28.480
<v Speaker 1>the surface yet. Potentially, with Mr Rosenstein's conflicts of interest,

0:50:29.080 --> 0:50:31.360
<v Speaker 1>sessions should have been off of this case. Then certainly

0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:34.200
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, we know, we know enough that he'd

0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:37.640
<v Speaker 1>be a witness in the case against Comey. Would he not?

0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:40.800
<v Speaker 1>How about how about the finds the applications that he

0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:43.719
<v Speaker 1>would which isn't the heart of all of this. If

0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:45.520
<v Speaker 1>he signed off on it, there are a lot of

0:50:45.640 --> 0:50:48.560
<v Speaker 1>questions to answer, including the date. If he signed off

0:50:48.600 --> 0:50:51.960
<v Speaker 1>on it during, for example, an extension and a second application,

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:55.600
<v Speaker 1>third application during the Trump administration, he didn't have the

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:57.560
<v Speaker 1>authority to do that on his own. By the way,

0:50:57.760 --> 0:51:02.640
<v Speaker 1>under four UM, he's sort of a default person only

0:51:02.719 --> 0:51:05.719
<v Speaker 1>if the president certifies that Rosenstein can sign it, but

0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:09.359
<v Speaker 1>the main person to sign it is a National security advisor. Um.

0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:13.360
<v Speaker 1>What happened in that case? The status specifically spelled that

0:51:13.640 --> 0:51:15.560
<v Speaker 1>got to be certified by the Assistant to the President

0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:19.200
<v Speaker 1>for National Security Affairs or some other executive branch officer,

0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:21.960
<v Speaker 1>only the deputy director of the ATI if the President

0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:25.359
<v Speaker 1>designates him as a certifying officer. Did the president designate him?

0:51:25.560 --> 0:51:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Did he get somebody else's approval also? And if he

0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:30.640
<v Speaker 1>did sign on this, Rod Rosenstein, he's got to be

0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:32.719
<v Speaker 1>out of this thing. He can't be calling the shots

0:51:32.760 --> 0:51:35.000
<v Speaker 1>on Muller's investigation. I think that's Well said, and I

0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:37.080
<v Speaker 1>think that's what the Freedom Caucus has been arguing, and

0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:39.880
<v Speaker 1>we've been arguing here on in this program. Let me

0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:41.960
<v Speaker 1>go to a legal question and I think needs to

0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:44.160
<v Speaker 1>be answered, and we got into this in some detail

0:51:44.280 --> 0:51:48.080
<v Speaker 1>last night with Mayor Juliani, and that is Mueller raising

0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:52.080
<v Speaker 1>the possibility of a subpoena of the president. At what

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:56.480
<v Speaker 1>would happen under that case? And for example, if he

0:51:56.560 --> 0:52:00.319
<v Speaker 1>issues the issue a subpoena, he refuses, are they going

0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:02.440
<v Speaker 1>to hold them in contempt next? And how do they

0:52:02.520 --> 0:52:06.840
<v Speaker 1>enforce contempt on the president? I cannot enforce contempt on

0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:11.520
<v Speaker 1>the president. An inferior unelected officer, which is Mueller cannot

0:52:11.680 --> 0:52:14.400
<v Speaker 1>hold the pret have or move to hold the president

0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:18.960
<v Speaker 1>and contempt for violating the subpoena UH and removing the

0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:24.480
<v Speaker 1>president from his discharge of his duties. That's unconstitutional. US

0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court has said, so it's in the writings of

0:52:27.600 --> 0:52:30.360
<v Speaker 1>the Framers. So if I were the president, I would

0:52:30.800 --> 0:52:35.319
<v Speaker 1>simply ignore the subpoena and let Mueller try. Good luck

0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:38.800
<v Speaker 1>with that. What do you think, j Christian Well, Sean,

0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:41.080
<v Speaker 1>this is indicative of something you mentioned, and that is

0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:44.800
<v Speaker 1>the politicization of how people view the law law enforcement.

0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I was at the Justice Department under Holder when he

0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:49.640
<v Speaker 1>first came to office, and I will remember distinctly that

0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 1>if you wanted to go after somebody like they're doing

0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:55.440
<v Speaker 1>to the President, you create the most outlandish, radical, far

0:52:55.600 --> 0:52:58.480
<v Speaker 1>left wing legal theory. But if you're on the other side,

0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:02.320
<v Speaker 1>like like they we're with with Obamber Holder, you create

0:53:02.400 --> 0:53:05.520
<v Speaker 1>the most outlandish defense of Holder. It's it's a question

0:53:06.200 --> 0:53:10.480
<v Speaker 1>that the law is no longer more reasonable, agreeable standards.

0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:14.000
<v Speaker 1>The left has destroyed that. And that's what you're watching

0:53:14.040 --> 0:53:16.279
<v Speaker 1>play out now because all of these lawyers of the

0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Justice Department working for Muller, these Democrat lawyers, don't think

0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:22.400
<v Speaker 1>they're doing anything wrong. This is just how they behave

0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:26.000
<v Speaker 1>in the post Eric Holder world. All right. So let's

0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:28.480
<v Speaker 1>walk through this a little bit more closely here, because

0:53:28.520 --> 0:53:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Alan Dersho Dersher which would say, well, is a danger

0:53:31.680 --> 0:53:34.239
<v Speaker 1>here because if he took the fifth, they'll give him

0:53:34.280 --> 0:53:37.560
<v Speaker 1>immunity in the fifth doesn't apply, and that sets him

0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:41.000
<v Speaker 1>up for yet another perjury trap if he says something

0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:43.759
<v Speaker 1>that contradicts somebody else in a situation where he has

0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:46.719
<v Speaker 1>to answer, well, right, And that's exactly what he's trying

0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:49.440
<v Speaker 1>to do is set up a perjury trap because one

0:53:49.520 --> 0:53:52.600
<v Speaker 1>zero zero one, which is lying to federal agent or

0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:56.120
<v Speaker 1>official or frankly employee, is very easy to prove. And

0:53:56.480 --> 0:53:59.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, Donald Trump has some very colorful ways of

0:53:59.200 --> 0:54:01.640
<v Speaker 1>expressing things, and you can be sure the left wing

0:54:01.760 --> 0:54:04.880
<v Speaker 1>lawyers working for Muller will look for anything that they

0:54:05.000 --> 0:54:07.480
<v Speaker 1>think is colorably false. They probably think everything he says

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:10.760
<v Speaker 1>as false already because they're left wing lawyers working for Muller,

0:54:11.000 --> 0:54:13.800
<v Speaker 1>so they will use anything he says against him. And

0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:17.239
<v Speaker 1>it would be insane for Trump to appear to even

0:54:17.280 --> 0:54:20.600
<v Speaker 1>do a voluntary interview, all right, So then no circumstances,

0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:23.560
<v Speaker 1>and this was discussed last night. Under no circumstances. Should

0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:26.120
<v Speaker 1>the president, if any interview to Muller, Should he give

0:54:26.160 --> 0:54:29.440
<v Speaker 1>a written Crawford? Would Muller agree to that? Because apparently

0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Mueller already has threatened to use the power of subpoena

0:54:33.680 --> 0:54:36.440
<v Speaker 1>and bring him before a grand jury. Well, the president,

0:54:37.160 --> 0:54:40.600
<v Speaker 1>as I said, should simply ignore subpoena. This is an

0:54:40.680 --> 0:54:45.360
<v Speaker 1>idle threat. It cannot be exercised. UH. You cannot force

0:54:45.440 --> 0:54:50.759
<v Speaker 1>a president from office with a contempt citation. UH for

0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:53.680
<v Speaker 1>his failure to respond to a subpoena to appear. It's

0:54:53.719 --> 0:54:56.000
<v Speaker 1>just it's as simple as that. Now, if I were

0:54:56.040 --> 0:55:00.799
<v Speaker 1>the president, I would uh have my lawyers make an

0:55:00.840 --> 0:55:05.040
<v Speaker 1>offer to respond to a limited number of questions in writing.

0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Apparently that offer has been declined, declined by Mueller. Declined

0:55:09.560 --> 0:55:11.880
<v Speaker 1>by Mueller. That's what the mayor said last night, been

0:55:12.000 --> 0:55:14.719
<v Speaker 1>let Mueller pursue a subpoena if he wants, and and

0:55:15.120 --> 0:55:18.200
<v Speaker 1>he's Mueller willing to take the country, drag this country,

0:55:18.320 --> 0:55:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the United States of America, through the mud like this. Now,

0:55:21.239 --> 0:55:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I I have always said, based on the team that

0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:27.440
<v Speaker 1>he's appointed, led by his pit bull, according to The

0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:30.799
<v Speaker 1>New York Times Andrew Weissman, that this they were out

0:55:30.880 --> 0:55:33.640
<v Speaker 1>to get the president? Have I been right the whole time?

0:55:33.680 --> 0:55:38.160
<v Speaker 1>In your opinion, David shone right every single time you've

0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:42.120
<v Speaker 1>said it. Look, I wish I were as uh as

0:55:42.320 --> 0:55:45.920
<v Speaker 1>um confident about the process as Greg is. You know,

0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:48.439
<v Speaker 1>this kind of has been attention about this issue since

0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:52.080
<v Speaker 1>at least the earliest edition cases Thomas Cooper, then the

0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:54.680
<v Speaker 1>case of Aaron Burr, et cetera. Such a clear question.

0:55:54.680 --> 0:55:56.239
<v Speaker 1>They certainly can't force him out of office, but there

0:55:56.239 --> 0:55:58.839
<v Speaker 1>are other contempt remedies. Look, what has to be done,

0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:01.120
<v Speaker 1>in my view is starts from the top. This is

0:56:01.160 --> 0:56:03.960
<v Speaker 1>why Rod Rosenstein goes Now, before we deal with this

0:56:04.120 --> 0:56:06.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of battle. I'd like to think a judge would

0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:09.680
<v Speaker 1>have enough judgment not to force this kind of situation

0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:12.200
<v Speaker 1>on the country, to say enough of this nonsense. There

0:56:12.280 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 1>is a political witch hunt, an agenda. But start from

0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:18.640
<v Speaker 1>the top, there is authority over this special council. Don't

0:56:18.680 --> 0:56:21.799
<v Speaker 1>be intigated anymore by this stuff. People elected President Trump

0:56:21.960 --> 0:56:24.279
<v Speaker 1>as a man of action. Take the action, deal with

0:56:24.400 --> 0:56:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the Justice Department, and rain in this Mueller invest football

0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:30.759
<v Speaker 1>investigations from the top before we deal with things that

0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:33.880
<v Speaker 1>make a mockery of our justice system. But if if

0:56:33.960 --> 0:56:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Mueller doesn't have the authority, as Greg is saying, you know,

0:56:37.480 --> 0:56:39.920
<v Speaker 1>to to force this issue, which by the way, Alan

0:56:39.960 --> 0:56:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Dershwoodz thinks he does have the ability, does he has

0:56:43.000 --> 0:56:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the absolute ability to force the issue? He files most

0:56:46.040 --> 0:56:47.399
<v Speaker 1>of the contempt and it is up to the judge

0:56:47.400 --> 0:56:49.360
<v Speaker 1>at that point what to do. And you know, I

0:56:49.400 --> 0:56:51.719
<v Speaker 1>wrote a memo on this issue, all right, So so

0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:54.160
<v Speaker 1>all right, if the judge, if he wants to push

0:56:54.200 --> 0:56:56.359
<v Speaker 1>it all the way and the judge in the case

0:56:56.480 --> 0:56:59.440
<v Speaker 1>is a liberal judge. Um, how do you enforce the

0:56:59.520 --> 0:57:02.480
<v Speaker 1>contempt the president? And if he complies and takes the

0:57:02.600 --> 0:57:05.279
<v Speaker 1>fifth and they'll give him immunity, wouldn't they? Yes, they would,

0:57:05.400 --> 0:57:07.920
<v Speaker 1>And then what would happen? How do you enforce contempt?

0:57:08.040 --> 0:57:11.520
<v Speaker 1>There's no It raises the specter of completely appropriate conduct

0:57:11.640 --> 0:57:14.160
<v Speaker 1>to think of anything. Contempt can be enforced by a fine,

0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:16.120
<v Speaker 1>a daily fine. As the president, if you don't here,

0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:19.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna find you X number of dollars a day. Um,

0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:22.280
<v Speaker 1>there are other remedies. However, Greg's ultimate point is right,

0:57:22.320 --> 0:57:24.640
<v Speaker 1>he can't be forced from office. So what is the teeth?

0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:27.520
<v Speaker 1>And it never put the country through this battle. And

0:57:27.680 --> 0:57:31.200
<v Speaker 1>as I said yesterday, by the way, someone Thomas Jefferson said,

0:57:31.600 --> 0:57:34.840
<v Speaker 1>never put the country through this battle. He ignored the

0:57:35.040 --> 0:57:37.560
<v Speaker 1>pen on the president. He turned over some documents, but

0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:40.160
<v Speaker 1>he said, I'm the president. Don't try to haul me

0:57:40.360 --> 0:57:42.280
<v Speaker 1>into court for something like this. And by the way,

0:57:42.480 --> 0:57:45.680
<v Speaker 1>we're not talking here about a criminal defendant exercising his

0:57:45.800 --> 0:57:48.360
<v Speaker 1>fifth and sixth Amendment rights to bring a witness forward.

0:57:48.520 --> 0:57:51.360
<v Speaker 1>This is a special counsel on political agenda trying to

0:57:51.680 --> 0:57:54.520
<v Speaker 1>turn the country upside down by hauling the president to court.

0:57:54.640 --> 0:57:56.360
<v Speaker 1>We'll take a quick break. We'll come back more with

0:57:56.400 --> 0:57:59.720
<v Speaker 1>our legal panel, David shown, Greg, Jared, j Christian Adams

0:57:59.760 --> 0:58:02.120
<v Speaker 1>and your calls coming up later in the program, News

0:58:02.200 --> 0:58:04.280
<v Speaker 1>round Up, Information overload at the top of the hour.

0:58:04.440 --> 0:58:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Quick break, right back, we'll continue, And as we continue

0:58:09.880 --> 0:58:14.360
<v Speaker 1>with David Shone, Jake, Christian Adams, and Greg Jarrett Shawns

0:58:14.400 --> 0:58:16.640
<v Speaker 1>on number Jake Christian Adams, I haven't given you a

0:58:16.760 --> 0:58:19.480
<v Speaker 1>chance yet, Mulla raising the possibility, the threat of a

0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:25.280
<v Speaker 1>subpoena with Trump's legal team. How do you take that? Well, look, Sean,

0:58:25.440 --> 0:58:27.440
<v Speaker 1>he can do that, and I'm sure there's plenty of

0:58:27.520 --> 0:58:30.480
<v Speaker 1>people on the far left who hate the president, and

0:58:30.600 --> 0:58:32.520
<v Speaker 1>we all know who those people are. We read about

0:58:32.600 --> 0:58:35.280
<v Speaker 1>him every day. Did want this to become a crisis,

0:58:35.400 --> 0:58:38.640
<v Speaker 1>that want the President to have to either take the

0:58:38.760 --> 0:58:41.760
<v Speaker 1>fifth or just ignore a subpoena so they can they

0:58:41.840 --> 0:58:44.000
<v Speaker 1>can go to the streets. I mean, look, make no

0:58:44.120 --> 0:58:47.160
<v Speaker 1>mistake about it. This is an integrated attack on the

0:58:47.200 --> 0:58:52.040
<v Speaker 1>teen election by the far radical, often Sorrows funded left,

0:58:52.440 --> 0:58:56.400
<v Speaker 1>whether it's Perkins Cooey who gets gobs of Sorrows money

0:58:56.560 --> 0:58:59.440
<v Speaker 1>to represent both Hillary in the in the left. This

0:58:59.560 --> 0:59:02.520
<v Speaker 1>is in that for to destabilize the presidency. It's nothing

0:59:02.600 --> 0:59:04.600
<v Speaker 1>short of that. Don't lose sight of it. And so

0:59:04.680 --> 0:59:07.040
<v Speaker 1>it would surprise me that Mulla would do that because

0:59:07.120 --> 0:59:09.920
<v Speaker 1>probably the attorney's working for him believe in doing that.

0:59:10.160 --> 0:59:12.120
<v Speaker 1>That's the problem. And I can tell you that Rod

0:59:12.240 --> 0:59:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Rosenstein's deputies, due to one of Rosenstein's deputies, a d

0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:19.479
<v Speaker 1>o j A, a principal assistant deputy turn in general,

0:59:19.560 --> 0:59:22.720
<v Speaker 1>was a sorrows fellow. I wrote about him at PJ Media.

0:59:22.920 --> 0:59:25.840
<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, I'm I'm guessing from

0:59:25.920 --> 0:59:28.120
<v Speaker 1>all of this that now this has headed down a

0:59:28.240 --> 0:59:30.120
<v Speaker 1>road that's going to go on for a very long

0:59:30.200 --> 0:59:33.240
<v Speaker 1>period of time. Predictions Greg Jarrett, Well, I don't. I

0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:37.680
<v Speaker 1>think Mueller realizes that he has reached an impass with

0:59:38.000 --> 0:59:40.800
<v Speaker 1>his demands to interview the president, and I think they

0:59:40.880 --> 0:59:45.920
<v Speaker 1>will negotiate aggressively a resolution of it, because I think

0:59:46.040 --> 0:59:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Mueller realizes that as an inferior unelected officer, he cannot

0:59:51.880 --> 0:59:56.320
<v Speaker 1>force the President UH to comply with the subpoena. Everybody says, oh, well,

0:59:56.360 --> 0:59:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton did. That was a civil case. The subpoena

0:59:59.440 --> 1:00:04.280
<v Speaker 1>was withdraw on by mutual consent and President Clinton did

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<v Speaker 1>agree to be interviewed privately. Show that's different. Uh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a criminal case. The president cannot be removed from

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<v Speaker 1>office by Mueller. What do you think, David shown again,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I were confident. I know Rugi Guliani said

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to bring it to a close. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see any incentive from Mueller or team to close

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<v Speaker 1>this thing. They're not going to be embarrassed. Whatever they

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<v Speaker 1>come up with, that's not incentive. They have an agenda.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a whole team with an agenda. It has

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<v Speaker 1>to be stopped. Now. There is no constitutional crisis in

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<v Speaker 1>stopping this investigation. Now, it's the constitution working. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>president exercising his article to power through attorney. You think

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<v Speaker 1>he should pile You think he should fire Muller and Rosenstein. Politically,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Rosenstein you want to continue an investigation and

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<v Speaker 1>have it controlled by someone who has the country's in

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<v Speaker 1>Just remember one of the criteria under the Special Counsel

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<v Speaker 1>Act is it has to be finding it's in the

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<v Speaker 1>public interest to go forward. It's not in the public

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<v Speaker 1>just to take one political partisan position to attack another

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<v Speaker 1>person and pervert the system. By using a special counsel

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. Start with Rosenstein, let him rein in

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<v Speaker 1>this investigate. With the next replacement rein in, the investigation

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<v Speaker 1>gets focused. We still don't know, by the way, what

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<v Speaker 1>the full mission statement that's required under the Special Council

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<v Speaker 1>regulations provided for the breath of this investigation. The interesting analysis.

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<v Speaker 1>Last word, Jay Christian, President of the Power to fire

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<v Speaker 1>subordinate officials, that includes Mueller, includes Rosenstein, uh and includes

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<v Speaker 1>even ross Stein's deputy Suji Rahman, who was a Soros

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<v Speaker 1>fellow that has been giving Muller cover in this investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, thank you all for being with us. Eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred nine one Seawan toll free telephone number. We'll have

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<v Speaker 1>more of our coverage walls. Have your calls coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a lot of ground yet to cover today.

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<v Speaker 1>Byron York will join us. Also, we'll check in with

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Gillham and our friend Danielle McLaughlin. A much more

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<v Speaker 1>straight ahead stay right here for our final news round

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<v Speaker 1>up and information overload. Secretary Clinton is someone deeply in

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<v Speaker 1>meshed and meshed in the rule of law, respect for institutions,

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<v Speaker 1>a lawyer. There is evidence that they were extremely careless

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<v Speaker 1>in their handling a very sensitive, highly classified information. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>seven email chains concerned matters that were classified at the

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<v Speaker 1>top secret Special Access Program at the time they were

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<v Speaker 1>sent and received. Those chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending

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<v Speaker 1>emails about those matters and receiving emails about those same matters.

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<v Speaker 1>There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable

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<v Speaker 1>person in Secretary Clinton's position, or in the position of

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<v Speaker 1>those with whom she was corresponding about those matters, should

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<v Speaker 1>have known that an unclassified system was no place for

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<v Speaker 1>that conversation. Mr Mayor war Laws broken. Let's start with Hillary.

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<v Speaker 1>Did she have I've been on Well, we go back

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<v Speaker 1>three years with this John when I produced my chart

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<v Speaker 1>crime she committed and we got up to about eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Hillary, I know you're very disappointed to win

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<v Speaker 1>that you're a criminal. Equal justice would mean you should

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<v Speaker 1>go to jail. Uh. I do not know why the

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<v Speaker 1>Justice Department is not investigating you. Did James come name

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<v Speaker 1>told me fixed the whole case and it was rigged. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't read that stupid report that he wrote, which

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<v Speaker 1>is at the beginning of his destruction, in which he says,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to prosecute no reasonable prosecutor would indict her. No, honest,

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<v Speaker 1>reasonable prosecutor wouldn't indict her. He said today or yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>called me. He said, Hillary deeply respects the rule of law.

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<v Speaker 1>Cally said that, Wow, well this is this is a

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<v Speaker 1>very perverted man. I feel so sorry. Do we have

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<v Speaker 1>a two tier justice system in America? Yeah? We have

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<v Speaker 1>one for Hillary and and and uh and all all

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<v Speaker 1>those all those Democrats, Bill Clinton. All right, News round

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<v Speaker 1>up in Information Overload hour here on the Sean Hannity Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine Poll one, Shawn, if you want to be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the program as we are joined by Jonathan Gilham,

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<v Speaker 1>author of the best selling book Sheep No More, Danielle McLaughlin,

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<v Speaker 1>and a turn constitutional expert or UH from the Federalist Society.

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<v Speaker 1>She wrote how conservatives took the law back from liberals.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome both of you to the program. You know, Danielle,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's a question you don't like. I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's a question that needs to be answered. We heard

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<v Speaker 1>Rudy Giulianni last night. Um, you have tried to duck

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<v Speaker 1>and dodge a very simple question about Hillary Clinton, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want a real serious answer today. Is that if

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<v Speaker 1>if in fact what James Comey described that they were

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<v Speaker 1>marked classified at the time, and in fact Special Access Program,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the top level of classification, was in fact

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<v Speaker 1>on that computer in that mom and pop shop bathroom closet,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're told five or more foreign entities services, we're

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<v Speaker 1>able to hack into that system and get that intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>which talks about sources and methods and people's lives are

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<v Speaker 1>at risk. And then she tries to delete what is subpoenaed.

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<v Speaker 1>There d three emails, acid washed the hard drive, beat

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<v Speaker 1>up her devices. Are you gonna make the case to

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<v Speaker 1>this audience that she didn't violate the Espionage Act, that

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't violate obstruction of justice laws in this country?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you saying that any other American could act in

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<v Speaker 1>that way and not get penalized by the law for that?

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<v Speaker 1>In a very serious manner, Hi shan, great to be

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<v Speaker 1>with you as always. Look, I understand the concerns around.

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<v Speaker 1>Did I ask about the concern I want to listen.

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<v Speaker 1>You do this every time you say Hi, Sean. You

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<v Speaker 1>you always sound nice and and you are You're a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful person. Alright, I agree, al right, we agree you're

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful person. But here's the problem eighteen USC SEVENE

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<v Speaker 1>says it's a felony if you mishandle classified top secret

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<v Speaker 1>special access programming information. James Comey admitted she did it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when it was subpoenaed, she acid washed the

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<v Speaker 1>hard drive, the deleting thirty three thousand emails, and then

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<v Speaker 1>beating up her devices. And my questions are simple, did

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<v Speaker 1>she commit felonies? Did she obstruct justice? Let me start

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<v Speaker 1>with a slightly easier one first, if you don't mind it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thirty thousand or thirty three emails that were deleted.

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<v Speaker 1>They were personal emails to the Clinton cow whoa, whoa?

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<v Speaker 1>How would you know that? Because she said they were

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<v Speaker 1>about yoga, a one wedding, one funeral, and emails with

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<v Speaker 1>her husband. But her husband does an email. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying she deleted thirty three thousand emails about yoga, a wedding,

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<v Speaker 1>and a funeral, and you buy that she's telling you

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<v Speaker 1>the truth. So actually, James Comey said this, When I

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<v Speaker 1>looked into the deletions, he said in that big long

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<v Speaker 1>press confidence that they found no evidence that the deletions

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<v Speaker 1>were done with any problematic And wait a minute, he

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<v Speaker 1>said under way, he said under oath before the committee.

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<v Speaker 1>When he was under oath, he went on to say

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<v Speaker 1>that they weren't in individually looked at by the attorneys

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<v Speaker 1>as Hillary said. Hillary lied when she said she sent

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<v Speaker 1>emails to her husband. Uh, there's no way any one

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<v Speaker 1>person can write thirty three thousand emails about yoga, one wedding,

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<v Speaker 1>and one funeral. It is impossible, right, So this I

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<v Speaker 1>want to clear this up. The subpoena was directed to

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<v Speaker 1>the big Ghazi emails and so everything that was not responsive,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Clinton campaign determined by law you can determine

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<v Speaker 1>as your own defense counsel. I I do this. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter why it was subpoena and she was pulled

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<v Speaker 1>to preserve her email records, and she and her lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>or whoever works for her decided not to agree with

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<v Speaker 1>the subpoena, not to follow the law. I understand the

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<v Speaker 1>order was given to deplete the emails before the subpoena

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<v Speaker 1>was served. That is not true, standing, that is not true.

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<v Speaker 1>The timeline I had the timeline that her campaign or

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<v Speaker 1>her lawyers said to the people at Platt River who

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<v Speaker 1>were the service, which I will completely admit, with a

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<v Speaker 1>terrible decision and a bad decision to use a private

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<v Speaker 1>email serve. You will never find me defending that decision,

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<v Speaker 1>just like I don't want the president, not even Hillary's

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<v Speaker 1>team is trying to thread the needle the way you are.

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<v Speaker 1>The bottom line is you just heard James comey. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the day he exonerated her, after he excoriated her

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<v Speaker 1>and admitted lies were told and that subpoena records were destroyed. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>he used the term extremely careless. He made the decision

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<v Speaker 1>that he didn't have. He didn't have a prosecution. Prosecutors

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<v Speaker 1>do this all the time. I'll be very honest. I

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<v Speaker 1>supported her. I liked your policies. I can understand your

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<v Speaker 1>frustration with me and your frustration with her because you're

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<v Speaker 1>duck in the question I asked you, did she obstruct

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<v Speaker 1>justice when she deleted, acid washed and busted up devices

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<v Speaker 1>with hammers? Yes? Or no? You need to know the intent, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like you need to well, what other what other intent

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<v Speaker 1>would there be to then to obstruct an investigation and justice?

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<v Speaker 1>If you acid wash your hard drive, beat up your

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<v Speaker 1>devices with a hammer, and delete the emails that were subpoenaed,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you don't want your personal emails to make it

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<v Speaker 1>into the public eye. I don't know, but I will

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<v Speaker 1>say this is my frustration with Danielle. It is it

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<v Speaker 1>is obvious she violated multiple laws here and committed felonies.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is that that then leads to the outrage

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<v Speaker 1>of exonerating her without investigating her. Danielle, Daniel, Daniel once again,

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna have to I'm gonna have to give you

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good and I'm just great to have to be

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<v Speaker 1>talking with you. I'm going to have to give you

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<v Speaker 1>another teaching lesson from from the government worker perspective. Here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, first of all, your great attorney, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>proven that because when Sean asked you one simple question,

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<v Speaker 1>which is yes or no answer. I mean it truly

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<v Speaker 1>is yes or no answer. Um, you dive into this

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<v Speaker 1>long time rade of of all these good things about

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<v Speaker 1>the other emails, and they may have been private, and

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe why they did it. And then you say

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<v Speaker 1>things because I've been through whatever the defense to tuning,

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<v Speaker 1>but Hurricane was perfectly legally able to decide what was

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<v Speaker 1>responsive to that subpoena and what wasn't. And I do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I do it everybody subpoena here, Here's where we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>into the nuts and both of this. When we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the sailor a while back, you said this was

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a bad decision on Hillary's part, and we don't

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<v Speaker 1>look at this sailor a while back he took pictures

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<v Speaker 1>on a submarine five pictures, um, and he spent a

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<v Speaker 1>year in jail for that. That was one bad decision.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he deserved the penalty that he got for that,

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody knows it's a top secret environment. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>take picture. He got what he deserved, probably a little

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<v Speaker 1>less because he got you know, he got pardoned for that.

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<v Speaker 1>But overall, that was one incident. If we look at

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<v Speaker 1>Charles Manson and we say he made a bad decision

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<v Speaker 1>with Sharon Tate, um, if you look at all the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the things that happened, we know through the

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<v Speaker 1>again I say this every week, the totality of circumstances,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened with Sharon Tate and Charles Manson had falling

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<v Speaker 1>was not a bad decision. That was a calculated decision

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<v Speaker 1>that fell in line with a number of things that

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<v Speaker 1>they did that were evil. When you look at what

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary Clinton, James Comey, uh, Bob Mueller, the Deputy Director uhum,

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<v Speaker 1>and all the rest of the people that have been

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<v Speaker 1>involved with this, Rod Rosenstein, all these people, McKay, that

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<v Speaker 1>was the word I'm looking for her page instruct All

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<v Speaker 1>these people have done things that are calculated, not one off,

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<v Speaker 1>not one bad decision. It was calculated. And here's the

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<v Speaker 1>gift of this whole thing. Even if when we when

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<v Speaker 1>we're just talking about the destruction of the phones and

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<v Speaker 1>the emails, even if that was done to hide personal emails,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still illegal. And then when it's wrapped up in

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<v Speaker 1>a case like this, it will be considered obstruction because

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<v Speaker 1>even if they're trying to hide personal emails, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>They were sending and receiving them on a government piece

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<v Speaker 1>of property. So that indicates where they have to follow

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<v Speaker 1>the law. I can tell you what happens when a

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<v Speaker 1>client destroys emails, for example, they get a it's called

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<v Speaker 1>spoliation of evidence when they are found to have done

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<v Speaker 1>it on purpose, and the court, you know, when they

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<v Speaker 1>get to trial or wherever it is that they're being adjudicated,

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<v Speaker 1>a jury or a judge is allowed to take the

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<v Speaker 1>inference that what they destroyed was bad for them. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you're talking about that kind of evidence. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not it's not obstruction of justice. You talk about government

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking about private entity? I'm talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>private entity. There's the difference right there. Who government entity?

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<v Speaker 1>This is government property. And when you violate the law

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<v Speaker 1>with government property that that government the youth a topic

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<v Speaker 1>equipment and government equipment, you are in violation of the

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<v Speaker 1>law when you when you use that for personal means,

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<v Speaker 1>when you go outside of the office, touches, putting this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in your home, uh, destroying the blackberries without the

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<v Speaker 1>proper chain, you are, in fact, whether or not your

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<v Speaker 1>intent was to obstruct, you are obstructing justice when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to investigation, and you are destroying government property, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a violation of the law. And anybody else that

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<v Speaker 1>would have done this tape your sailor we spent a

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<v Speaker 1>year in jail for taking five pictures. Had he taken

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<v Speaker 1>five pictures of that, had he gone and then done

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<v Speaker 1>gone into some kind of a nuclear facility and taking pictures,

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<v Speaker 1>we would see is that based on the totalitious circumstances,

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<v Speaker 1>it was not a bad decision, and in fact, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a motivation there. And that's what we're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>when we look at this circumstances, Hillary Clinton and the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of this gime. I know you're always trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get me to say here is that you know she's

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<v Speaker 1>a criminal, she was wrong, she should be thrown in jail.

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<v Speaker 1>And all I'm trying to say is, these things are

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<v Speaker 1>processes where prosecutors have the discretion and you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to say that. You don't have to say that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't mean I'm not trying to get you to say that.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact is, this is the government property and government

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<v Speaker 1>stuff it is. You don't even have to say that

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<v Speaker 1>she obstructed, that she did this. You can simply say

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<v Speaker 1>the actions that were performed were an obsessive justice and

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<v Speaker 1>they were against the law in the way that the

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<v Speaker 1>law governs the use of government equipment and top secret information.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, I gotta take a break, right there will

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<v Speaker 1>continue Jonathan Gilham and Danielle McLaughlin Byron York at the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of the hour. And as we continue, Danielle McLaughlin

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<v Speaker 1>and of course Jonathan Gilham, eight hundred nine for one,

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<v Speaker 1>Shawn is our number. You want to be a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the program. Uh. I want you to finish your point, Jonathan,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're directly challenging in a way. But you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I think Danielle is really good at, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>being a criminal defense attorney. But when you the direct question,

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<v Speaker 1>did Hillary commit crimes that you have struck just as

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<v Speaker 1>the answer is obviously yes, it's obviously yes. And what

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<v Speaker 1>I what I want daniel and the rest of people

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<v Speaker 1>that that don't want to they say they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to get into the weeds of saying Hillary is guilty

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<v Speaker 1>or not. Um, look at the crime, look at the

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<v Speaker 1>actions that we're taken, and ask and answer the question,

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<v Speaker 1>are those actions according to the law and the governance

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<v Speaker 1>of top secret information and government equipment? Are without even

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<v Speaker 1>talking about instruction, are is that against the law? Then

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<v Speaker 1>ask if this stuff was involved in investigation? And you

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<v Speaker 1>get it, Debbie Washerman Schulton did the same thing with

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<v Speaker 1>our computer and uh and the Awen brothers. If people

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<v Speaker 1>are maneuvering to destroy things when there is an investigation

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<v Speaker 1>in process, whether it's the high personal information or not,

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<v Speaker 1>is that obstruction of justice? And the answer is yes

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<v Speaker 1>there as well. Well, I Well, all I'm gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>is what what called me see it as the head

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<v Speaker 1>of this investigation when he decided not to prosecute her.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was those thirty three thousand emails that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry st I'm repeating myself. They were ordered deleted before

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<v Speaker 1>the Benghazi subpoena. They had no belief from all the

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<v Speaker 1>investigation that they did there was intent to obstruct justice

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<v Speaker 1>or to get rid of those in events they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to, as you know, from fragments of thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>emails and from other emails that weren't produced came from

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<v Speaker 1>other people who sort of gather a much broader and

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<v Speaker 1>though we don't we have never confirmed that we've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>those thirty three thousand emails back. No, no, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>all those stalks that there were some fragments left in

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<v Speaker 1>the server and they did what they could. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>let it go here, though, But I thank you both

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<v Speaker 1>for being with us. Eight nine one, Shawn are toll

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<v Speaker 1>free telephone number A right. More on the North Korean hostages,

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<v Speaker 1>and also the latest on obviously my interview with Rudy

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<v Speaker 1>Giulianni last night, which appears they will be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start getting money from NBC, ABC, CBS

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<v Speaker 1>and CNN because all they do is run my stuff

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<v Speaker 1>seven I mean, and they've been doing it for weeks

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<v Speaker 1>and weeks and weeks, and we get no residuals. We want,

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<v Speaker 1>we deserve to get paid. We'll continue. Secretary Clinton is

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<v Speaker 1>someone deeply enmeshed, enmeshed in the rule of law, respect

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<v Speaker 1>for institutions, a lawyer. There is evidence that they were

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<v Speaker 1>extremely careless in their handling a very sensitive, highly classified information.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, seven email chains concerned matters that were classified

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<v Speaker 1>at the top secret Special Access Program at the time

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<v Speaker 1>they were sent and received. Those chains involved Secretary Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>both sending emails about those matters and receiving emails about

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<v Speaker 1>those same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion

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<v Speaker 1>that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton's position, or in

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<v Speaker 1>the position of those with whom she was corresponding about

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<v Speaker 1>those matters, should have known that an unclassified system was

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<v Speaker 1>no place for that conversation. All Right, she is a

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<v Speaker 1>woman that has deep respect for the law. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to be kidding me, right, Um? Anyway, that

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<v Speaker 1>was James comey then and now um, going back to

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<v Speaker 1>the exoneration letters and and and varying drafts before the

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<v Speaker 1>investigation ever took place in that case. Eight nine one.

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<v Speaker 1>Shawn is a toll free telephone number byron Yorke is here.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the chief political correspondent for The Washington Examiner,

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<v Speaker 1>Fox News contributor, author of the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you, sir? Doing well? Sean? Thanks for having me. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>It's always good to have you. Um. Let's start with

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary Clinton and and respecting the rule of law, because

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<v Speaker 1>if she had such a deep respect, I would assume

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<v Speaker 1>she would not have deleted thirty three thousand emails, acid

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<v Speaker 1>washed the hard drive, and then have the devices beaten

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<v Speaker 1>up with a hammer. Well, you know, the key word

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<v Speaker 1>in that is unilaterally deleted all of those emails. She

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<v Speaker 1>is the one who decided what investigators could see or

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<v Speaker 1>could not and that's that is really perhaps the most

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<v Speaker 1>egregious act in all of that. And I do think

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of everything that's happening now with President Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Clinton example of how she was treated

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<v Speaker 1>by the FBI, that is how the the exoneration memo

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<v Speaker 1>was begun in in May, how the decision was made

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<v Speaker 1>before not just Hillary Clinton, but maybe more than a

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<v Speaker 1>dozen key witnesses wherever interviewed, the fact that immunity was

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<v Speaker 1>handed out sort of like candy. UM and also the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that if you remember, it was kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>big deals on the July fourth weekend, July second, a

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday in s she was interviewed for several hours, and

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<v Speaker 1>then there was he was interviewed by Peter Struck. Wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>she exactly? He was one of them, And there was

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday and Monday was part of the holiday, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday was the first business day back. And Tuesday, July

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<v Speaker 1>five was the day that James Comey came out and

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<v Speaker 1>said all of the reasons that she should be charged

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<v Speaker 1>and then concluded by saying, well, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>charge her with anything. Uh. And you you almost wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if over that holiday weekend the FBI had enough time

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<v Speaker 1>to go over a three hour interview with a fine

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<v Speaker 1>tooth comb looking to make sure that she said the

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<v Speaker 1>truth in every single sentence, because they have sure been

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<v Speaker 1>concerned about that in current investigations. So, Uh, there's just

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<v Speaker 1>a heck of a contrast between between the way that

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<v Speaker 1>one was handled in the way this one is being

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<v Speaker 1>handled now. It's such a compare and contrast the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that the media focused on only basically one

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<v Speaker 1>part of my interview last Night with Rudy Julianni. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to play what he said about Hillary Clinton because

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't mince words and he was very forthcoming about

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<v Speaker 1>saying Hillary is a criminal. Mr Mayor war laws broken.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with Hillary. Did she ask I've been on

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<v Speaker 1>we go back three years with this show. When I

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<v Speaker 1>produced my chart, I remember thirteen crimes she committed, and

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<v Speaker 1>we got up to about eighteen. I'm sorry, Hillary, I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're very disappointed. You to win that you're a criminal.

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<v Speaker 1>Equal justice would mean you should go to jail. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not know why the Justice Department is not

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<v Speaker 1>investigating you. That James Comey told me fixed the whole

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<v Speaker 1>case and it was rigged. Well, you can't read that

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<v Speaker 1>stupid report that he wrote, which is at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of his destruction, in which he says, we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to prosecute. No reasonable prosecutor would indict her. No honest

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<v Speaker 1>reasonable prosecutor wouldn't indict her. He said today or yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>called me. He said Hillary deeply respects the rule of law.

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<v Speaker 1>Comey said that, wow, well that this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>a very perverted man. I feel so sorry. Do we

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<v Speaker 1>have a two tier justice system in America. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>have one for Hillary and and and uh and all

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<v Speaker 1>all those all those Democrats, Bill Clinton. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was one of maybe you know, a dozen

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<v Speaker 1>or more moments that were incredible that the meat you

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<v Speaker 1>just dismissed and didn't even report on. Well, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for that interview last night. It was it

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<v Speaker 1>was tremendously newsworthy on a whole bunch of levels. I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you, there was just I learned a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about what julianni was thinking about the current state of

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<v Speaker 1>the Mueller investigation and the president's inclination or not inclination

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<v Speaker 1>to interview with Mueller. I just I learned a lot

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<v Speaker 1>out of that interview. So um, so thank you for it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, looking back on um, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>had a situation in which both major party candidates were

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<v Speaker 1>under investigation by the FBI, And I mean, maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>could make the argument that we had two sketchy candidates,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe you could make the argument that the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>was too involved in politics, and um, I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how the Clinton's situation should have been handled. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it is just a huge, huge step to indict one

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<v Speaker 1>of the two candidates for president in the midst of

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<v Speaker 1>the campaign, as it would have been in July. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just have to think and everything we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>lately that the FBI has just gotten way too involved

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<v Speaker 1>in our political system. And um is maybe exhibit A,

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<v Speaker 1>B and C for that. Let me I keep bringing

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<v Speaker 1>it up. But I actually raised this with the mayor

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<v Speaker 1>last night, and who is now the president's attorney. I

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<v Speaker 1>said to me, it's very simple, is that Hillary Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>violated the Espionage Ack eighteen USC. Seven ninety three, miss

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<v Speaker 1>handling classified information destroying such information. James Comey admitted in

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<v Speaker 1>that press conference, you're right after the you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>two days after they met with her, because he was

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<v Speaker 1>writing the exoneration with Peter Struck that was being written

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<v Speaker 1>in May. I've never heard of an exoneration being written

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<v Speaker 1>so far in advance of of interviewing the main people,

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen other people and herself. But on top of that,

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<v Speaker 1>then she was obstructing justice by deleting the emails, acid

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<v Speaker 1>washing the drive and and beating up blackberries with hammers

1:24:04.000 --> 1:24:06.720
<v Speaker 1>or having aids to it. And then you've got the

1:24:06.840 --> 1:24:09.160
<v Speaker 1>whole LEFTBI cover up of this thing. And I do

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<v Speaker 1>believe they rigged an investigation. I think the crimes were obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think any American would get away with the

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<v Speaker 1>type of behavior that she pulled off there, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think they aided and abetted her, and that would be

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<v Speaker 1>obstructing justice in their own way. And I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>corrupt what they did the highest levels of the FBI,

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<v Speaker 1>and then if they went forward, I mean the whole

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<v Speaker 1>idea that they're looking into collusion with Russia and foreign

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<v Speaker 1>nationals aren't post influence our elections. Nobody had a problem

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<v Speaker 1>with Obama trying to defeat Prime Minister Netanyahu in his

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<v Speaker 1>last election. But more importantly, she hired an outside a

1:24:47.040 --> 1:24:50.400
<v Speaker 1>foreign agent, you know, somebody outside the country named Christopher Steele.

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<v Speaker 1>He was funneled money through Perkins Cooeye, which funneled it

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<v Speaker 1>through Fusion GPS, and he used uncorroborated, unverified Russian sources

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<v Speaker 1>to manip relate the American people. And then on top

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<v Speaker 1>of that, it gets worse because the bulk of that information,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the Grassly Grand MAMMO, was then used to

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<v Speaker 1>obtain a fizal warrant to spy on an American citizen.

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<v Speaker 1>Former Trump campaign associate, and they never told the judge

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<v Speaker 1>that nobody verified the information, nobody corroborated the information, and

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<v Speaker 1>that Hillary paid for it, and an asterisk that said

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<v Speaker 1>it might be might have a political taint to it

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<v Speaker 1>is not the truth to me. That's lying by omission.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing that's absolutely jaw dropping in what you

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<v Speaker 1>were just talking about is that you do have this

1:25:32.720 --> 1:25:40.040
<v Speaker 1>retired foreign spy gathering second, third, fourth hand information about

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<v Speaker 1>one of the candidates working for the Clinton campaign. And

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<v Speaker 1>the jaw dropping part is he brings it to the FBI,

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<v Speaker 1>and the FBI wants to hire him to keep doing

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<v Speaker 1>that work during the campaign and afterwards the deal falls through.

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<v Speaker 1>But the FBI's UH reaction to this was too higher

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<v Speaker 1>Christopher Steele and have him do his work for the FBI.

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<v Speaker 1>And my guess is if that had actually gone into effect,

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<v Speaker 1>Steele would have been collecting paychecks from the Clinton campaign

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<v Speaker 1>and the FBI. At the same time, let's talk more

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<v Speaker 1>about your general thoughts about last night's interview and what

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<v Speaker 1>you got out of it in terms of the president

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<v Speaker 1>with Rudy Giuliani and Emmett Flood and Jay Seculo and

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<v Speaker 1>really a new team of attorneys now that he's put

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<v Speaker 1>together I think some of the best in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>And what you think this says and where you think

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<v Speaker 1>this is going. Yeah, My my impression after watching your

1:26:38.960 --> 1:26:43.360
<v Speaker 1>interview was that we've just had a massive turning point

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<v Speaker 1>in this investigation. Um. And the twenty four or thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six hours between the leak of the Mueller questions and

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<v Speaker 1>then Rudy Giuliani's appearance on your program, I think really

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<v Speaker 1>shows this massive change because we had had a situation

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<v Speaker 1>in the White House in which um ty Cobb and

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<v Speaker 1>um oh gosh, the other lawyer who has left, John Doubt, Yes,

1:27:10.080 --> 1:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>John Dowd, Ty Cobb and John Doubt had basically been

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<v Speaker 1>UH counseling cooperation with the Mueller UM Mueller investigation. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>back in the in the Clinton years, there were all

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<v Speaker 1>these fights over executive privilege and Clinton didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>give anything to the Independent Council. He even invented things

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<v Speaker 1>like protective function privilege, like like a secret service agents

1:27:31.560 --> 1:27:34.760
<v Speaker 1>had some sort of privilege that we haven't had these

1:27:34.800 --> 1:27:39.519
<v Speaker 1>privilege fights in this because Dowd and Cobb were co

1:27:39.680 --> 1:27:45.680
<v Speaker 1>operating cooperation and the idea was UM that if if

1:27:45.840 --> 1:27:47.960
<v Speaker 1>the White House did cooperate, then that could bring the

1:27:48.040 --> 1:27:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Muller investigation to a quicker close. And I think anybody

1:27:52.160 --> 1:27:55.240
<v Speaker 1>you know with two eyes is seeing that that didn't happen.

1:27:56.080 --> 1:27:58.240
<v Speaker 1>And I think what we saw here again with the

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<v Speaker 1>leak of the questions and then Juliani's appearance on your show,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we saw the White House taken completely different

1:28:05.840 --> 1:28:10.960
<v Speaker 1>turn towards a much more confrontational approach. They've obviously got

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<v Speaker 1>to make a decision about whether to talk to Mueller

1:28:13.400 --> 1:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>and if not, how to handle it. But I think

1:28:15.880 --> 1:28:18.760
<v Speaker 1>that they are they are realizing that as far as

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<v Speaker 1>the president is concerned, and I know you've gone over

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<v Speaker 1>with your listeners this question whether a sitting president can

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<v Speaker 1>be indicted or not, I'm one of those who believes

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<v Speaker 1>he cannot. That impeachment is the proper remedy if if

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<v Speaker 1>there's the belief that the president has broken the law.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the White House has realized that that could

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<v Speaker 1>be where they're heading, depending on the results in November,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have to get out in front of this

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<v Speaker 1>and fight it in a different way. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's basically the biggest message from from your show last night,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't It also probably going to dovetail into a referendum

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<v Speaker 1>come the mid terms. You know, it's a great question

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<v Speaker 1>because I think back to two thousand six. It was

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<v Speaker 1>George Bush's second term, so that's different from today. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>the Iraq War was going terribly. George Bush's UM approval

1:29:14.000 --> 1:29:16.360
<v Speaker 1>ratings were in the mid thirties and the Real Clear

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<v Speaker 1>Politics average of polls, in other words, they were five

1:29:19.320 --> 1:29:23.519
<v Speaker 1>to eight points lower than Donald Trump's art today. And

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<v Speaker 1>there was a there was part of the Democratic base

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<v Speaker 1>that wanted to impeach Bush if Democrats won the House

1:29:30.880 --> 1:29:35.040
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and six. And the problem was maybe

1:29:35.400 --> 1:29:40.479
<v Speaker 1>forty something percent of Democrats supported impeachment for George W. Bush,

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<v Speaker 1>far far smaller numbers among independents and certainly among Republicans.

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy Pelosi, who stood to become the Speaker of the

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<v Speaker 1>House if they won, was worried about this, worried that

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<v Speaker 1>it was would turn off voters if the Democratic election.

1:29:55.000 --> 1:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Democratic campaign was, you know, elect us and will impeach

1:29:58.040 --> 1:30:00.960
<v Speaker 1>the president. So she came out in May of two

1:30:01.000 --> 1:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>thousand six, about this time of year, and said impeachment

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<v Speaker 1>is off the table. Uh. And they went on to win,

1:30:07.479 --> 1:30:10.800
<v Speaker 1>and impeachment was indeed off the table. Different situation now

1:30:11.080 --> 1:30:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Nacy Pelosi still wants to be speaker, although that may

1:30:13.800 --> 1:30:17.960
<v Speaker 1>not happen. Um. But about in the most recent poll

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen from Quinnepiac, se of Democrats want to see

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<v Speaker 1>the impeachment of the president. If Democrats when the House,

1:30:27.840 --> 1:30:29.519
<v Speaker 1>now that is going to be that's a big number

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<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna put a lot of pressure on Democrats.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure they can get away with the old

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<v Speaker 1>impeachment is off the table line from from Nancy Pelosi,

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<v Speaker 1>which means, uh, since the overall electorate, the overall public

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<v Speaker 1>is opposed to impeachment, I think that gives Republicans a

1:30:49.400 --> 1:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>political argument to say, look, look at these Democrats. Our

1:30:53.280 --> 1:30:56.960
<v Speaker 1>economy is going well, America is showing strength in the world.

1:30:57.080 --> 1:31:00.040
<v Speaker 1>The president is enacting a whole list of conservative of

1:31:00.080 --> 1:31:03.080
<v Speaker 1>agenda items. And if you elect Democrats, what do they

1:31:03.120 --> 1:31:05.439
<v Speaker 1>want to do? They want to impeach the president. That

1:31:05.600 --> 1:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>is certainly going to be one of the arguments we're

1:31:07.400 --> 1:31:12.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna hear a we're running out of time completely Byron York.

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<v Speaker 1>As always, you've been doing phenomenal work, uh, writing for

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<v Speaker 1>the Washington Examiner, and it's always better when I get

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<v Speaker 1>a direct link uh from you or cut and paste

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<v Speaker 1>uh and uh. I applaud anybody making those changes. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>We hear your complaints and we're listening to you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>alright Byron York. Thank you, Shawn and tone free telephone number.

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