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Speaker 1: the Sean Hannity radio show podcast, Right Glad you with us?

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Speaker 1: And right, has anybody heard anything about me in the

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Speaker 1: they know or don't know about mine. He stood up

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Speaker 1: and he said the name Sean Hannity. How did he

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Speaker 1: Shawn Hannity, Han Hannity. Hi, this is the Sean Hannity Show.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, here is a true statement one Shawn. The

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Speaker 1: media is wait, wait, I'm sorry, what was your name again?

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Speaker 1: My name is Sean Hannon. What's the name of the show,

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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show. Is that a capital H? All right?

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Speaker 1: Will you stop, uh think about this? When we were

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Speaker 1: um vetting Barack Obama, they're there. They so hate anybody

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Speaker 1: Um now, they just think they're vetting, And Linda, tell

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Speaker 1: been asked about his association with Bill Airs, the unrepentant

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Speaker 1: Keep going. The Chicago Reader talked about and commented has

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Speaker 1: The Comey's own the truth and not the president. When

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Speaker 1: you look at those questions about what does the president think,

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Speaker 1: what does the president feel, what does the president really desire?

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Speaker 1: Those are all questions intended to trap him in some

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Speaker 1: uh solid explanation of what happened. And then with the

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Speaker 1: as Dershowitz and others point, that doesn't leave the president

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Speaker 1: without any options. You know, he could bring a challenge

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Speaker 1: to court on any subpoena that Mulla brings and can

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Speaker 1: go to a federal district court, the Court of Appeals,

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Speaker 1: the U. S. Supreme Court that you can subpoena president

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Speaker 1: in a criminal case in front of a grand jury,

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Speaker 1: and he probably lose the broad issue. But then he

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Speaker 1: can argue, you can't ask a president why he engaged

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Speaker 1: in acts that are authorized under Article two of the Constitution.

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Speaker 1: That is an easy argument to win, in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: And then they can argue they get they can't ask

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Speaker 1: him questions that go beyond the scope of the special

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Speaker 1: counsel's authority, namely, you know, to any business dealings of

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Speaker 1: the president or what he thinks of people, as if

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Speaker 1: thinking is somehow, in some way a crime, you know.

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Speaker 1: And then they could challenge Rod Rosenstein's position to a

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Speaker 1: one of the FISA warrants and he himself would be

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Speaker 1: a you know, witness a in the case, and there's

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Speaker 1: so much to get to all of this that is

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Speaker 1: just unbelievable. Now. The President um responded to the the

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Speaker 1: Cone part of this on Twitter today. As a Mr Cohne,

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Speaker 1: an attorney received a monthly retainer not from the campaign,

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Speaker 1: having nothing to do with the campaign from which he

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Speaker 1: entered into through reimbursement, a private contract between two parties,

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Speaker 1: known as a non disclosure agreement or n d A.

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Speaker 1: These agreements are very com and amongst celebrities and people

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Speaker 1: of wealth. In this case it is full force and

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Speaker 1: effect will be used in arbitration for damages against Ms

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Speaker 1: Clifford Daniels. The agreement was used to stop the false

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Speaker 1: and extortionist accusations made by her about an affair, despite

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Speaker 1: already having signed a detailed letter admitting there was no

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Speaker 1: affair prior to its violation by Miss Clifford and her attorney.

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Speaker 1: This was a private agreement. Money from the campaign or

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Speaker 1: campaign contributions played no role in this transaction. Oh, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you know? The timeline fits perfectly into

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Speaker 1: he actually quoted John Dowd, who was one of visitors

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Speaker 1: to This isn't some game. You know, you're screwing with

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Speaker 1: the work of the president of the United States of America,

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Speaker 1: and with North Korea and China and the Middle East

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Speaker 1: and so much more. There's not much time to be

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Speaker 1: thinking about this, especially when there was no Russia collusion

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Speaker 1: and the President's right, you know, a rigged system, you know,

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Speaker 1: look at look at how their stonewalling Devin Newnesses Committee

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Speaker 1: and Trey Gowdy's committee and Bob Goodlad's committee. They don't

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Speaker 1: want to turn over documents. The President tweeted out to Congress,

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Speaker 1: what are they are afraid of? And we know what

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Speaker 1: they're afraid of. We know they're gonna get exposed. You know,

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Speaker 1: why so much redacting? Why why such unequal justice? At

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Speaker 1: some point I will have no choice but to use

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Speaker 1: the powers granted to the presidency and get involved. I

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Speaker 1: can see that day coming, I really can. You know,

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Speaker 1: the questions are an intrusion into the president's Article two

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Speaker 1: powers under the Constitution that he has the right to

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Speaker 1: fire any executive branch employee. What the president was was

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Speaker 1: what what the president thinking is outrageous while he was

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Speaker 1: thinking this, but he didn't do it. He's thinking that,

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Speaker 1: but he didn't do it. It's we're gonna hold people

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Speaker 1: responsible for thought crimes. Now, this is all insanity, and

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Speaker 1: this is a mass media left wing Democratic Party psychosis

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Speaker 1: that has taken over and it started at the moment

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Speaker 1: it became apparent that Donald Trump was winning the presidency

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Speaker 1: and their beloved Hillary lost. Now it's the insurance policy

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Speaker 1: time of struck Page and McCabe. This is all the

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Speaker 1: insurance policy. Al Right, So what happens if, in fact

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Speaker 1: Robert Muller's subpoenas the president before a grand jury? What?

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Speaker 1: We have three great lawyers gonna join us for the

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Speaker 1: full We're gonna go over everything the interview last night

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Speaker 1: with Rudy. Uh, David Shona is coming in, Greg Jarrett

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Speaker 1: and Jay Christian Adams. We're gonna analyze every aspect of

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Speaker 1: that interview. What the president's options are, Uh, is there

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Speaker 1: any legal jeopardy? And how would you deal with Robert

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Speaker 1: Muller and his very band of democratic donors and unethical lawyers.

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Speaker 1: Is that's basically who we appointed. I love Brudy's answer

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Speaker 1: on that last night. Alright, quick break eight nine for

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Speaker 1: one seawn are toll free telephone number and later in

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Speaker 1: the program, will check in with Byron york A much

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Speaker 1: more right as we continue our to Sean Hannity's show,

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Speaker 1: complete legal analysis of all the issues that I discussed

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Speaker 1: with the President's attorney, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

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Speaker 1: But NBC is now reporting that Michael Cohen, the attorney

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Speaker 1: for the Trump organization, UH, that apparently we what we

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Speaker 1: know is federal investigators pursuing to a lawful court order warrant,

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Speaker 1: we're able to wire tap the phone lines of Trump

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Speaker 1: personal attorney Michael Cone. That is a wire tap that

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Speaker 1: occurred several weeks before the now public search warrant that

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Speaker 1: was executed New York several weeks ago. And they went

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Speaker 1: on to say at least one phone call between Cone

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Speaker 1: and the White House was recorded, and Trump, of course

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Speaker 1: at the time, railed against the raid, as did Rudy

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Speaker 1: Giuliani last night. UM. Anyway, let's get our panel in here.

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Speaker 1: We have David Shown with US Criminal and Civil Liberties Attorney.

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Speaker 1: We have j. Christian Adams is the President of the

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Speaker 1: Public Interest of the Legal found Legal Foundation, editor of

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Speaker 1: PJ Media, Greg Jarrett, Fox News Legal Analysts, UH, and

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Speaker 1: author of the upcoming book, The Russian Hoax, The illicit

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Speaker 1: scheme to clear Hillary Clinton and framed Donald Trump. Welcome

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Speaker 1: all of you back to the program. David Shone will

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Speaker 1: begin with you. Well, I assume, or have to assume,

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Speaker 1: or should I even assume in light of what what

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Speaker 1: what happened in the lead up to the FISA warrants

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Speaker 1: where in fact FISA judges were lied to UH and

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Speaker 1: information was purposely omitted. But I have to assume that

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Speaker 1: the Fed's got a legal wire tap against Michael Cone here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we can make that assumption, but

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Speaker 1: in every single case, and especially this one, those applications

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Speaker 1: have to be examined carefully. Um, we know now from

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Speaker 1: the history that there's a history of misstatement and omission,

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Speaker 1: both which in the FISA court are particularly troubling. It

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Speaker 1: would be troubling for any surveillance application. And again this

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Speaker 1: is the most intrusive kind titles for the application listening

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Speaker 1: in on phone conversations and the phone conversations of an attorney.

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Speaker 1: The Department of Justice has a special set of regulations

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Speaker 1: for this kind of thing. So we have to make

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Speaker 1: sure every eye was doubted, every he was crossed, and

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Speaker 1: that the underlying information was reliable. Um, so many things

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Speaker 1: to check, Greg Jarrett, your initial thoughts on this, and

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Speaker 1: apparently there was one call to the White House. Now

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Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani had made the comment earlier today that in

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Speaker 1: fact the President would have been would have had to

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Speaker 1: have been given a heads up if in fact it

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Speaker 1: was him or or at any point. But I guess

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Speaker 1: it could have been anybody at the White House, right

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Speaker 1: he it It's hard to know. Look, this is completely

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Speaker 1: separate from the FAI s acchord. This, the d o

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Speaker 1: J would have had to have gone to a federal

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Speaker 1: district court judge. And under the Fourth Amendment, a surveillance

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Speaker 1: wire tap as a searching seas or you have to

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Speaker 1: have probable cause, which is you know, it's an important

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Speaker 1: standard and there are, as David pointing out guidelines in

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Speaker 1: the d o J Guideline book. Let's say this is

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Speaker 1: what this is the burden you have to sustain. And

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Speaker 1: assuming they followed that, then a judge would have signed

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Speaker 1: off on it. Uh my my senses, the president knows

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Speaker 1: that when he has conversations that that they can be

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Speaker 1: listened in on and uh, you know, he wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: said anything. I suspect that would have been incriminating. He

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Speaker 1: probably spent the time just saying this is outrageous that

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Speaker 1: they rated your office. In his conversation with Michael Cone, well,

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Speaker 1: I've gotta why would I think that the President of

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Speaker 1: the United States, more than anybody, should have the most

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Speaker 1: secure line of anyone. Well, I mean, they actually record

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Speaker 1: some of their conversations that go through the switchboard. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And you know when you go through the switchboard, they

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Speaker 1: notify you that some some conversations are recorded. So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think the president is very guarded. Um, and I

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Speaker 1: doubt that he would have said anything knowing that they're

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Speaker 1: a rat had taking place. I mean, look, he's a

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Speaker 1: smart guy. If they had just rated Michael Cohen's office,

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Speaker 1: he probably knew somebody's listening in on this. What is

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Speaker 1: your too quick? Too quick? Two quick points, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I just want to jump in two very specific technical points.

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Speaker 1: Number One, there is a minimization requirements under Title three

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Speaker 1: in this case. That is, once they see that the

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Speaker 1: conversation doesn't relate to the purpose of its investigation, they

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Speaker 1: must stop listening to that conversation. That's going to be

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Speaker 1: interesting to see the follow here. Well, but but hang on, David,

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Speaker 1: we know because we dealt with the surveillance issue a lot,

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Speaker 1: and we dealt with wired Uh. The for example, when

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Speaker 1: you have surveillance, you're supposed to Yes, if it's an

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Speaker 1: American citizen, you're supposed to minimize. But not only did

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Speaker 1: they not minimize, then they leaked raw intelligence and one

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Speaker 1: victim of that was General Flynn. Because that intelligence was leaked.

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Speaker 1: You know, remember unmasking took place at a level of

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Speaker 1: one a day by Samantha Power, who was in fact

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Speaker 1: the UN ambassador. Why would the UN ambassador be unmasking

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Speaker 1: one American a day? Yep. The second point doesn't any

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Speaker 1: aggrieved person meaning anyone picked up on this tap as

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Speaker 1: standing to challenge it and because their privacy was invaded too? Sorry, Jay,

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Speaker 1: Christian Adams want to get your thoughts. That's laughable. I

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Speaker 1: thought a tease cross guidelines all that's that's obsolete talk, Sean.

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Speaker 1: We now have a Justice department that doesn't care about guidelines.

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Speaker 1: They've been unmasking private citizens. You're right, they did it

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Speaker 1: to Mike Flynn. They they they suck in conversations. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the people have with targets like Michael Cohene and his

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Speaker 1: former client, the president. That's what this was all about.

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Speaker 1: This is about a muscular, aggressive anti Trump FBI and

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Speaker 1: Justice Department doing what it can to undermine the presidency.

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Speaker 1: You mean you think that they went to Michael Cohen

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Speaker 1: so they can listen in on his conversations with the president.

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Speaker 1: I think that they went to Michael Cohen because they

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Speaker 1: have disregard, disregard for the boundaries that used to constrain

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Speaker 1: the department in the FBI, this is a political witch

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Speaker 1: hunt against the President and anybody who supported the president.

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Speaker 1: It's designed to bankrupt them like it is doing to

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Speaker 1: Michael Flynn and others. This is an all out war

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Speaker 1: by the left using the institution of government to undermine

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Speaker 1: them by criminalizing political differences. Well, that's what Alan Dershowitz

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Speaker 1: has been saying. You know, it's it's amazing what the

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Speaker 1: media only has wanted to pick up on, which I

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Speaker 1: find pretty fascinating, and that is is Rudy Giuliani's comments

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Speaker 1: about the issue involving well the president paying back or

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Speaker 1: keeping Michael Cohen on a retainer. Uh. Meanwhile, he talked

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Speaker 1: about Mueller's questions are intended to trap Trump. Meanwhile, he

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Speaker 1: talked about Comey being a disgraceful liar. Meanwhile he mentioned

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Speaker 1: Hillary as a criminal. Meanwhile he said Comey should be

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Speaker 1: prosecuted for leaking confidential FBI information. And uh. He also

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Speaker 1: goes on to say, you know about Robert Mueller and

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Speaker 1: this whole thing, that it needs to go away, and

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Speaker 1: that Jeff Sessions and Rod Rosenstein need to make it

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Speaker 1: go away. And um, and all of these things have

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Speaker 1: been ignored. You know, we'll go to cut ten here. Um.

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Speaker 1: I was actually in the beginning, I was asking the mayor.

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Speaker 1: I was asking the in the capacity of the attorney

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Speaker 1: for the President about Perkins Cooey in that particular case

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Speaker 1: where money was funneled. And then he brought up the

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Speaker 1: issue of the repayment to Michael Cohen, are you concerned

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Speaker 1: in the process of this, we did discover that a

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Speaker 1: foreign national, Christopher Steele, was paid through Fusion GPS, used

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Speaker 1: Russian sources that not only weren't verified with debunked. Are

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Speaker 1: you concerned that that was paid for to manipulate the

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Speaker 1: American people in the lead up to an election. Isn't

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Speaker 1: that closer to the mandate than Michael Cohen? Why isn't

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Speaker 1: that having that, sir, having having having something to do

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Speaker 1: with paying some Stormy Daniels woman a hundred and thirties thousand,

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Speaker 1: I mean, which is going to turn out to be

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Speaker 1: perfectly legal. That that money was not campaign money. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm giving you a fact now that you don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's not campaign money, no campaign finance violation. So they

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Speaker 1: funneled it through the law firm, funnel through m and

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Speaker 1: the President repaid it. Oh, I didn't know he did.

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Speaker 1: There's no campaign finance law zero. So the press, like

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Speaker 1: every sean, so with this decision was made by everybody,

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Speaker 1: everybody was nervous about this from the very beginning. I

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Speaker 1: wasn't I knew how much money Donald Trump put into

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Speaker 1: that campaign. I said, a hundred thirty thousand, But they're

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Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna do a couple of checks for a hundred.

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Speaker 1: When I heard Cohen's retainer of thirty five thousand, when

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Speaker 1: he was doing no work for the president, I said,

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Speaker 1: that's how he's repaying that's how how how he's repaying

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Speaker 1: it with a little profit and a little margin fit

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Speaker 1: paying taxes for Michael the president. Do you know the

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Speaker 1: President didn't know about this? Uh? I believe that he

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Speaker 1: didn't know about the specifics of it as far as

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Speaker 1: I know, but he didn't know about the general arrangement

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Speaker 1: that Michael would take care of things like this, like

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Speaker 1: I take care of things like this for my clients.

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Speaker 1: I don't burden them with every single thing that comes along. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's a busy people. And then he went on to

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Speaker 1: say that he had a retainer. Now, at no time

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Speaker 1: everyone saying in the press that what he contradicted him.

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Speaker 1: He's saying he paid him on a retainer and that yeah,

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Speaker 1: that would be compensation for the job that he did

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Speaker 1: here and pay back for it. Um. But I remember

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Speaker 1: Michael Cohen saying Greg Jarrett that he didn't inform him

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Speaker 1: the president and he originally did use his own money.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, everyone's trying to break Rodeo over the coals,

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Speaker 1: but I don't see anything inconsistent in their stories. There

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Speaker 1: isn't Trump paid Cone a certain amount of money each month,

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Speaker 1: both his compensation and to take care of business. Cohen

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Speaker 1: made a hundred and thirty thousand dollar payment over time.

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Speaker 1: He then reimbursed himself from his monthly retainer. It is

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Speaker 1: perfectly legal. It is also perfectly legal to pay somebody

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Speaker 1: for them to stay quiet and go waste done every

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Speaker 1: day in contracts. If it can be shown, as Giuliani

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Speaker 1: states that Trump reimbursed Cohen, that eliminates any campaign finance problem.

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Speaker 1: Was it an in kind contribution? No, as long as

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Speaker 1: there was another purpose, of personal purpose. So this should

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Speaker 1: actually exculpate both Trump and Cone, it seems because that

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Speaker 1: was not the question I was asking that that was

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Speaker 1: something that he wanted to say. J Christian Adams, Right,

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Speaker 1: only the most radical and zealous campaign finance UH law

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Speaker 1: interpretation would make this a campaign finance violation. All Sean,

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Speaker 1: there are people who won the federal government to have

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Speaker 1: that much power, but right now it doesn't. So it

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Speaker 1: is not a campaign finance violation because it's not a

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Speaker 1: campaign expense. It's that simple. It was an unrelated event.

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Speaker 1: If that was a campaign finance violation, Bill Clinton would

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Speaker 1: probably have been prosecuted how many times by now because

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Speaker 1: of all the money that was throwing around to protect

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Speaker 1: his history. So this is not a campaign finance violation.

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Speaker 1: What's your take, David Show, I don't agree that the

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Speaker 1: question is resolved based on whether campaign funds were used,

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Speaker 1: as was suggested last night. But the whole idea that

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Speaker 1: this is a campaign contribution, in k contribution, unreported contribution

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Speaker 1: is absolute nonsense. It's not just that people do this

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Speaker 1: all the time. And that's a very good point, is

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Speaker 1: that Mr Trump has done it in the past without

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Speaker 1: any regard to any election. Ever, it's a private matter

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Speaker 1: Mr Trump wanted to keep private. Listen, all kinds of

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Speaker 1: cases are settled on confidential terms every day of the week,

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Speaker 1: not just this kind of nondisclosure agreement. But this is

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Speaker 1: particularly personal. Um. So you know, this is the most

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Speaker 1: radical take, as Mr Adams said, and that's to take.

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid Mr Mueller is going to try to put

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Speaker 1: on it. But that's a tough case to make. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: past the last time, And as we continue, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do this for the hour because there's so much to

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Speaker 1: get into here. UM. From the interview with Rudy Julianni

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Speaker 1: tonight and as subsequent interviews that he did after our

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Speaker 1: show last night, David shown criminal and civil rights attorney,

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Speaker 1: civil liberties attorney J. Christian Adams as the president of

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Speaker 1: the Public Interest Legal Foundation, Editor PJ Media, Greg jareded

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Speaker 1: Fox News legal analysts. UM let me get to the

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Speaker 1: question of what he said about James Comey. He called

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Speaker 1: him a disgraceful liar, and then I asked him specific Now, Greg,

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Speaker 1: you've chronicled exactly the wrong things that call Mey has done. Um,

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Speaker 1: where are the lies that he's talking about that he

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Speaker 1: said should actually he should be prosecutor for leaking? Well, Um,

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Speaker 1: he appeared to have exonerated Hillary Clinton for political purposes.

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Speaker 1: That would be a felony. It's a crime to steal

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Speaker 1: government documents. That's a felony. Um. If any of the

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Speaker 1: presidential memos he took home included classified documents, which is

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Speaker 1: what the FBI now says, that is also a felony.

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Speaker 1: And then there's potentially lying to Congress. He testified that

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Speaker 1: he made the decision to clear Clinton after she was interviewed.

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Speaker 1: Documents prove otherwise. Also, was there a lie by omission

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Speaker 1: when he only admitted to giving the documents to one

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Speaker 1: person but it turned out to be three. That would

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Speaker 1: be a false and misleading statement. Eighteen USC. One thousand

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Speaker 1: and one. Yes, if you omit a material fact under

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Speaker 1: the statute that's relevant to the inquiry, you're guilty of

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Speaker 1: that felony. David yeah, but I gotta say this, the

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Speaker 1: bigger pictured thing to me, that interview was absolutely amazing,

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Speaker 1: just that to have Rudy Giuliani like them or hate him.

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Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani is known for one thing in the world

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Speaker 1: besides being mayor, and that's for being a prosecutor, a

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Speaker 1: hard nosed prosecutor who fought to get every single case

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Speaker 1: he could get credit for it, et cetera. To put

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Speaker 1: everybody away forever. For Rudy Giuliani to say, Comey is

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Speaker 1: a liar and the investigation is garbage, you may say, well,

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Speaker 1: he's Trump's lawyer. Now. One thing Rudy Giuliani isn't doing

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Speaker 1: is selling out his credentials as a prosecutor. To hear

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Speaker 1: it from him, the same reason that people want to hear,

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Speaker 1: you know, the civil liberties issues from Dirty with I suppose,

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Speaker 1: but to hear from Giuliani Comey, who he knows very well, Mueller,

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Speaker 1: who he knows very well, old ends. For him to

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Speaker 1: use that kind of language on National TV on your

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Speaker 1: show is a major coup. We'll pick it up there.

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Speaker 1: We'll pick up with Jake Christian Adams and David Shown

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Speaker 1: and Greg Jarrett eight hundred nine for one. Shawn is

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Speaker 1: a toll free telephone number if you want to be

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Speaker 1: a part of the program. We have Daniel McLachlin Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Gilham also coming up a much more in incredible Hannity

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Speaker 1: tonight at nine quick Break. Right back, we'll continue. Commy

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Speaker 1: should be prosecuted for leaking UH confidential FBI information when

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Speaker 1: he leaked his report intended to develop a special prosecutor

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Speaker 1: for the President of the United States. I have never

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Speaker 1: ever turned over a doctor. You know me, Sean, you

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Speaker 1: know me, want s attorney UH A lot of allegations

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Speaker 1: to mother mob. Never leaked a damn thing. I would

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Speaker 1: have considered resigning if I ever did that, or if

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Speaker 1: one of my assistants did. Did the FBI League, did

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Speaker 1: the SEC League? I'm sorry, guys, you did all right?

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Speaker 1: That was really Juliani and the exclusive interview that I

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Speaker 1: had with him last night. We continue with our legal panel.

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Speaker 1: We have Civil Liberties Attorney, Criminal Um Criminal defense attorney

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Speaker 1: David Shown J. Christian Adams, President of the Public Interest

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Speaker 1: Legal Foundation, Editor of PJ Media, Greg Jarrett, fact Fox

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Speaker 1: News legal analyst, author of the upcoming book The Russia Hoax,

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Speaker 1: The Illicit Scheme to clear Hillary Clinton and frame Donald Trump. Uh,

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Speaker 1: let me go to you, J Christian Adams, and and

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Speaker 1: let's go to those specific comments. Comey is a disgraceful liar.

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Speaker 1: Comey should be prosecuted for leaking. Well, Rudy's right because

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Speaker 1: not only is he even leaking, he's been profiting from it.

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Speaker 1: But Rudy talked about something else very important, and that

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Speaker 1: is McCabe. Don't forget Andrew McCabe, number two guy at

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Speaker 1: the FBI, working closely with Comey. The two of them

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Speaker 1: were a pair of liars. McCabe violated eighteen USC one

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Speaker 1: zero zero one, which has put plenty of people in

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Speaker 1: jail multiple times. He did it an inspector general interview

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Speaker 1: under oath. He did it in front of FBI agent

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Speaker 1: thunder oath. I mean, Sean, he should have been hauled

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Speaker 1: in front of the grand jury and indicted a week ago.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not in hard case to prove. So

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Speaker 1: what's going on with Jesse lou the U S attorney

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Speaker 1: in d C or Rod Rosenstein. What's going on? Why

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Speaker 1: isn't this happening? Well, I think that's why it was

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Speaker 1: so important. Greg jareded that when I asked Rudy Julianni,

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Speaker 1: do we have a dual justice system? He said yes,

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Speaker 1: and that was the best line of the night. There

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Speaker 1: there's actually three systems. There's there's the system for Hillary Clinton,

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Speaker 1: in which everything she does is okay. There's the system

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Speaker 1: for the rest of the United States, you and me

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Speaker 1: and everybody else, in which we have to abide by

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Speaker 1: the law. And then there's the third system of justice,

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Speaker 1: which is the Trump system. If he so much as sneezes,

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Speaker 1: it's a crime, according to East top officials at the

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Speaker 1: Department of Justice in FBI and David Shone, you agree

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Speaker 1: with that too. I mean, look, I talked about it,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not wasn't really even in Jess last night

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Speaker 1: because if they want to interview the president, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, the questions are a little absurd, and and

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Speaker 1: we've all pointed out, well, what do you think of

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Speaker 1: comys Tessa? Who cares what he thinks? What do you

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Speaker 1: think about Sessions were accusal? Who cares what he thinks

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Speaker 1: or what he thinks about Robert Muller. It's irrelevant to

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Speaker 1: anything in this case. But there are things that are

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Speaker 1: relevant in this case, and that is, do we have

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Speaker 1: a dual justice system. Was Hillary Clinton, did she violate

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Speaker 1: the law at a high level and was she given

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Speaker 1: a rigged investigation? Because if that's the case, we don't

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Speaker 1: have equal justice under the law in America. Right right

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Speaker 1: there there, there's a basis for the expression of the

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Speaker 1: government of laws, not of men or women. Um, and

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Speaker 1: that's what we're seeing here. Unfortunately, we're seeing personalities and

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Speaker 1: personal agendas take over the justice system. I don't like

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Speaker 1: to talk in sort of tripe phrases, but we heard

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Speaker 1: about drain the swamp. If ever that would be applied

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Speaker 1: in this situation, it's got to be with the Justice Department.

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Speaker 1: D Rosen has to be out. We have to start

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Speaker 1: fresh here. We have to take a whole new look

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Speaker 1: at this special council. Special counsel investigations take on a

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Speaker 1: life of their own under the best of circumstances. But

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Speaker 1: here there's a definite agenda, a political agenda, and this

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Speaker 1: that has infected the process and has become a government

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Speaker 1: of men. It cannot be I don't think we've suscratched

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Speaker 1: the surface yet. Potentially, with Mr Rosenstein's conflicts of interest,

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Speaker 1: sessions should have been off of this case. Then certainly

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, we know, we know enough that he'd

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Speaker 1: be a witness in the case against Comey. Would he not?

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Speaker 1: How about how about the finds the applications that he

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Speaker 1: would which isn't the heart of all of this. If

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Speaker 1: he signed off on it, there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: questions to answer, including the date. If he signed off

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Speaker 1: on it during, for example, an extension and a second application,

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Speaker 1: third application during the Trump administration, he didn't have the

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Speaker 1: authority to do that on his own. By the way,

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Speaker 1: under four UM, he's sort of a default person only

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Speaker 1: if the president certifies that Rosenstein can sign it, but

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Speaker 1: the main person to sign it is a National security advisor. Um.

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Speaker 1: What happened in that case? The status specifically spelled that

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Speaker 1: got to be certified by the Assistant to the President

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Speaker 1: for National Security Affairs or some other executive branch officer,

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Speaker 1: only the deputy director of the ATI if the President

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Speaker 1: designates him as a certifying officer. Did the president designate him?

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Speaker 1: Did he get somebody else's approval also? And if he

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Speaker 1: did sign on this, Rod Rosenstein, he's got to be

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Speaker 1: out of this thing. He can't be calling the shots

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Speaker 1: on Muller's investigation. I think that's Well said, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's what the Freedom Caucus has been arguing, and

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Speaker 1: we've been arguing here on in this program. Let me

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Speaker 1: go to a legal question and I think needs to

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Speaker 1: be answered, and we got into this in some detail

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Speaker 1: last night with Mayor Juliani, and that is Mueller raising

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Speaker 1: the possibility of a subpoena of the president. At what

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Speaker 1: would happen under that case? And for example, if he

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Speaker 1: issues the issue a subpoena, he refuses, are they going

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Speaker 1: to hold them in contempt next? And how do they

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Speaker 1: enforce contempt on the president? I cannot enforce contempt on

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Speaker 1: the president. An inferior unelected officer, which is Mueller cannot

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Speaker 1: hold the pret have or move to hold the president

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Speaker 1: and contempt for violating the subpoena UH and removing the

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Speaker 1: president from his discharge of his duties. That's unconstitutional. US

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court has said, so it's in the writings of

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Speaker 1: the Framers. So if I were the president, I would

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Speaker 1: simply ignore the subpoena and let Mueller try. Good luck

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Speaker 1: with that. What do you think, j Christian Well, Sean,

883
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Speaker 1: this is indicative of something you mentioned, and that is

884
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Speaker 1: the politicization of how people view the law law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: I was at the Justice Department under Holder when he

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Speaker 1: first came to office, and I will remember distinctly that

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Speaker 1: if you wanted to go after somebody like they're doing

888
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Speaker 1: to the President, you create the most outlandish, radical, far

889
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Speaker 1: left wing legal theory. But if you're on the other side,

890
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Speaker 1: like like they we're with with Obamber Holder, you create

891
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Speaker 1: the most outlandish defense of Holder. It's it's a question

892
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Speaker 1: that the law is no longer more reasonable, agreeable standards.

893
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Speaker 1: The left has destroyed that. And that's what you're watching

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Speaker 1: play out now because all of these lawyers of the

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Speaker 1: Justice Department working for Muller, these Democrat lawyers, don't think

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Speaker 1: they're doing anything wrong. This is just how they behave

897
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Speaker 1: in the post Eric Holder world. All right. So let's

898
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Speaker 1: walk through this a little bit more closely here, because

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Speaker 1: Alan Dersho Dersher which would say, well, is a danger

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Speaker 1: here because if he took the fifth, they'll give him

901
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Speaker 1: immunity in the fifth doesn't apply, and that sets him

902
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Speaker 1: up for yet another perjury trap if he says something

903
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Speaker 1: that contradicts somebody else in a situation where he has

904
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Speaker 1: to answer, well, right, And that's exactly what he's trying

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Speaker 1: to do is set up a perjury trap because one

906
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Speaker 1: zero zero one, which is lying to federal agent or

907
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Speaker 1: official or frankly employee, is very easy to prove. And

908
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Speaker 1: you know, Donald Trump has some very colorful ways of

909
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Speaker 1: expressing things, and you can be sure the left wing

910
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Speaker 1: lawyers working for Muller will look for anything that they

911
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Speaker 1: think is colorably false. They probably think everything he says

912
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Speaker 1: as false already because they're left wing lawyers working for Muller,

913
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Speaker 1: so they will use anything he says against him. And

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Speaker 1: it would be insane for Trump to appear to even

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Speaker 1: do a voluntary interview, all right, So then no circumstances,

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Speaker 1: and this was discussed last night. Under no circumstances. Should

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Speaker 1: the president, if any interview to Muller, Should he give

918
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Speaker 1: a written Crawford? Would Muller agree to that? Because apparently

919
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: Mueller already has threatened to use the power of subpoena

920
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Speaker 1: and bring him before a grand jury. Well, the president,

921
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Speaker 1: as I said, should simply ignore subpoena. This is an

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Speaker 1: idle threat. It cannot be exercised. UH. You cannot force

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Speaker 1: a president from office with a contempt citation. UH for

924
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Speaker 1: his failure to respond to a subpoena to appear. It's

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Speaker 1: just it's as simple as that. Now, if I were

926
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Speaker 1: the president, I would uh have my lawyers make an

927
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Speaker 1: offer to respond to a limited number of questions in writing.

928
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Speaker 1: Apparently that offer has been declined, declined by Mueller. Declined

929
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Speaker 1: by Mueller. That's what the mayor said last night, been

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Speaker 1: let Mueller pursue a subpoena if he wants, and and

931
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Speaker 1: he's Mueller willing to take the country, drag this country,

932
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Speaker 1: the United States of America, through the mud like this. Now,

933
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Speaker 1: I I have always said, based on the team that

934
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Speaker 1: he's appointed, led by his pit bull, according to The

935
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Speaker 1: New York Times Andrew Weissman, that this they were out

936
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Speaker 1: to get the president? Have I been right the whole time?

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Speaker 1: In your opinion, David shone right every single time you've

938
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Speaker 1: said it. Look, I wish I were as uh as

939
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Speaker 1: um confident about the process as Greg is. You know,

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Speaker 1: this kind of has been attention about this issue since

941
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Speaker 1: at least the earliest edition cases Thomas Cooper, then the

942
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Speaker 1: case of Aaron Burr, et cetera. Such a clear question.

943
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Speaker 1: They certainly can't force him out of office, but there

944
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Speaker 1: are other contempt remedies. Look, what has to be done,

945
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Speaker 1: in my view is starts from the top. This is

946
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Speaker 1: why Rod Rosenstein goes Now, before we deal with this

947
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Speaker 1: kind of battle. I'd like to think a judge would

948
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Speaker 1: have enough judgment not to force this kind of situation

949
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Speaker 1: on the country, to say enough of this nonsense. There

950
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Speaker 1: is a political witch hunt, an agenda. But start from

951
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: the top, there is authority over this special council. Don't

952
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: be intigated anymore by this stuff. People elected President Trump

953
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Speaker 1: as a man of action. Take the action, deal with

954
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Speaker 1: the Justice Department, and rain in this Mueller invest football

955
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: investigations from the top before we deal with things that

956
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: make a mockery of our justice system. But if if

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Speaker 1: Mueller doesn't have the authority, as Greg is saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: to to force this issue, which by the way, Alan

959
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Speaker 1: Dershwoodz thinks he does have the ability, does he has

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Speaker 1: the absolute ability to force the issue? He files most

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Speaker 1: of the contempt and it is up to the judge

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Speaker 1: at that point what to do. And you know, I

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00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: wrote a memo on this issue, all right, So so

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Speaker 1: all right, if the judge, if he wants to push

965
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Speaker 1: it all the way and the judge in the case

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Speaker 1: is a liberal judge. Um, how do you enforce the

967
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: contempt the president? And if he complies and takes the

968
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: fifth and they'll give him immunity, wouldn't they? Yes, they would,

969
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: And then what would happen? How do you enforce contempt?

970
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: There's no It raises the specter of completely appropriate conduct

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00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: to think of anything. Contempt can be enforced by a fine,

972
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: a daily fine. As the president, if you don't here,

973
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find you X number of dollars a day. Um,

974
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: there are other remedies. However, Greg's ultimate point is right,

975
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: he can't be forced from office. So what is the teeth?

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00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: And it never put the country through this battle. And

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Speaker 1: as I said yesterday, by the way, someone Thomas Jefferson said,

978
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: never put the country through this battle. He ignored the

979
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: pen on the president. He turned over some documents, but

980
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: he said, I'm the president. Don't try to haul me

981
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: into court for something like this. And by the way,

982
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: we're not talking here about a criminal defendant exercising his

983
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: fifth and sixth Amendment rights to bring a witness forward.

984
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: This is a special counsel on political agenda trying to

985
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Speaker 1: turn the country upside down by hauling the president to court.

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Speaker 1: We'll take a quick break. We'll come back more with

987
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: our legal panel, David shown, Greg, Jared, j Christian Adams

988
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: and your calls coming up later in the program, News

989
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Speaker 1: round Up, Information overload at the top of the hour.

990
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Speaker 1: Quick break, right back, we'll continue, And as we continue

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Speaker 1: with David Shone, Jake, Christian Adams, and Greg Jarrett Shawns

992
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: on number Jake Christian Adams, I haven't given you a

993
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: chance yet, Mulla raising the possibility, the threat of a

994
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: subpoena with Trump's legal team. How do you take that? Well, look, Sean,

995
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: he can do that, and I'm sure there's plenty of

996
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: people on the far left who hate the president, and

997
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: we all know who those people are. We read about

998
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: him every day. Did want this to become a crisis,

999
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Speaker 1: that want the President to have to either take the

1000
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: fifth or just ignore a subpoena so they can they

1001
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: can go to the streets. I mean, look, make no

1002
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: mistake about it. This is an integrated attack on the

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Speaker 1: teen election by the far radical, often Sorrows funded left,

1004
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Speaker 1: whether it's Perkins Cooey who gets gobs of Sorrows money

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Speaker 1: to represent both Hillary in the in the left. This

1006
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Speaker 1: is in that for to destabilize the presidency. It's nothing

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Speaker 1: short of that. Don't lose sight of it. And so

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Speaker 1: it would surprise me that Mulla would do that because

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Speaker 1: probably the attorney's working for him believe in doing that.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem. And I can tell you that Rod

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00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: Rosenstein's deputies, due to one of Rosenstein's deputies, a d

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Speaker 1: o j A, a principal assistant deputy turn in general,

1013
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Speaker 1: was a sorrows fellow. I wrote about him at PJ Media.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I'm I'm guessing from

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Speaker 1: all of this that now this has headed down a

1016
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Speaker 1: road that's going to go on for a very long

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Speaker 1: period of time. Predictions Greg Jarrett, Well, I don't. I

1018
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Speaker 1: think Mueller realizes that he has reached an impass with

1019
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: his demands to interview the president, and I think they

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Speaker 1: will negotiate aggressively a resolution of it, because I think

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Speaker 1: Mueller realizes that as an inferior unelected officer, he cannot

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Speaker 1: force the President UH to comply with the subpoena. Everybody says, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: Bill Clinton did. That was a civil case. The subpoena

1024
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Speaker 1: was withdraw on by mutual consent and President Clinton did

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Speaker 1: agree to be interviewed privately. Show that's different. Uh, this

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Speaker 1: is a criminal case. The president cannot be removed from

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Speaker 1: office by Mueller. What do you think, David shown again,

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Speaker 1: I wish I were confident. I know Rugi Guliani said

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Speaker 1: he was going to bring it to a close. I

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Speaker 1: don't see any incentive from Mueller or team to close

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Speaker 1: this thing. They're not going to be embarrassed. Whatever they

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Speaker 1: come up with, that's not incentive. They have an agenda.

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Speaker 1: He's got a whole team with an agenda. It has

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Speaker 1: to be stopped. Now. There is no constitutional crisis in

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Speaker 1: stopping this investigation. Now, it's the constitution working. It's the

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Speaker 1: president exercising his article to power through attorney. You think

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Speaker 1: he should pile You think he should fire Muller and Rosenstein. Politically,

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Speaker 1: I think Rosenstein you want to continue an investigation and

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Speaker 1: have it controlled by someone who has the country's in

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Speaker 1: Just remember one of the criteria under the Special Counsel

1041
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: Act is it has to be finding it's in the

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Speaker 1: public interest to go forward. It's not in the public

1043
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Speaker 1: just to take one political partisan position to attack another

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Speaker 1: person and pervert the system. By using a special counsel

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Speaker 1: to do it. Start with Rosenstein, let him rein in

1046
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Speaker 1: this investigate. With the next replacement rein in, the investigation

1047
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: gets focused. We still don't know, by the way, what

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Speaker 1: the full mission statement that's required under the Special Council

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Speaker 1: regulations provided for the breath of this investigation. The interesting analysis.

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Speaker 1: Last word, Jay Christian, President of the Power to fire

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Speaker 1: subordinate officials, that includes Mueller, includes Rosenstein, uh and includes

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Speaker 1: even ross Stein's deputy Suji Rahman, who was a Soros

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Speaker 1: fellow that has been giving Muller cover in this investigation.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you all for being with us. Eight

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Speaker 1: hundred nine one Seawan toll free telephone number. We'll have

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Speaker 1: more of our coverage walls. Have your calls coming up.

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Speaker 1: We had a lot of ground yet to cover today.

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Speaker 1: Byron York will join us. Also, we'll check in with

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Gillham and our friend Danielle McLaughlin. A much more

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Speaker 1: straight ahead stay right here for our final news round

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Speaker 1: up and information overload. Secretary Clinton is someone deeply in

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Speaker 1: meshed and meshed in the rule of law, respect for institutions,

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Speaker 1: a lawyer. There is evidence that they were extremely careless

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Speaker 1: in their handling a very sensitive, highly classified information. For example,

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Speaker 1: seven email chains concerned matters that were classified at the

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Speaker 1: top secret Special Access Program at the time they were

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Speaker 1: sent and received. Those chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending

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Speaker 1: emails about those matters and receiving emails about those same matters.

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Speaker 1: There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable

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Speaker 1: person in Secretary Clinton's position, or in the position of

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Speaker 1: those with whom she was corresponding about those matters, should

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Speaker 1: have known that an unclassified system was no place for

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Speaker 1: that conversation. Mr Mayor war Laws broken. Let's start with Hillary.

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Speaker 1: Did she have I've been on Well, we go back

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Speaker 1: three years with this John when I produced my chart

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Speaker 1: crime she committed and we got up to about eighteen.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Hillary, I know you're very disappointed to win

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Speaker 1: that you're a criminal. Equal justice would mean you should

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Speaker 1: go to jail. Uh. I do not know why the

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Speaker 1: Justice Department is not investigating you. Did James come name

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Speaker 1: told me fixed the whole case and it was rigged. Well,

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Speaker 1: you can't read that stupid report that he wrote, which

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Speaker 1: is at the beginning of his destruction, in which he says,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to prosecute no reasonable prosecutor would indict her. No, honest,

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Speaker 1: reasonable prosecutor wouldn't indict her. He said today or yesterday

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Speaker 1: called me. He said, Hillary deeply respects the rule of law.

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Speaker 1: Cally said that, Wow, well this is this is a

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Speaker 1: very perverted man. I feel so sorry. Do we have

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Speaker 1: a two tier justice system in America? Yeah? We have

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Speaker 1: one for Hillary and and and uh and all all

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Speaker 1: those all those Democrats, Bill Clinton. All right, News round

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Speaker 1: up in Information Overload hour here on the Sean Hannity Show.

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Speaker 1: Nine Poll one, Shawn, if you want to be a

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Speaker 1: part of the program as we are joined by Jonathan Gilham,

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Speaker 1: author of the best selling book Sheep No More, Danielle McLaughlin,

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Speaker 1: and a turn constitutional expert or UH from the Federalist Society.

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Speaker 1: She wrote how conservatives took the law back from liberals.

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Speaker 1: Welcome both of you to the program. You know, Danielle,

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Speaker 1: I know it's a question you don't like. I know

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Speaker 1: it's a question that needs to be answered. We heard

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Speaker 1: Rudy Giulianni last night. Um, you have tried to duck

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Speaker 1: and dodge a very simple question about Hillary Clinton, and

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Speaker 1: I want a real serious answer today. Is that if

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Speaker 1: if in fact what James Comey described that they were

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Speaker 1: marked classified at the time, and in fact Special Access Program,

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Speaker 1: which is the top level of classification, was in fact

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Speaker 1: on that computer in that mom and pop shop bathroom closet,

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Speaker 1: and we're told five or more foreign entities services, we're

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Speaker 1: able to hack into that system and get that intelligence

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Speaker 1: which talks about sources and methods and people's lives are

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Speaker 1: at risk. And then she tries to delete what is subpoenaed.

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Speaker 1: There d three emails, acid washed the hard drive, beat

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Speaker 1: up her devices. Are you gonna make the case to

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Speaker 1: this audience that she didn't violate the Espionage Act, that

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Speaker 1: she didn't violate obstruction of justice laws in this country?

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Speaker 1: Are you saying that any other American could act in

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Speaker 1: that way and not get penalized by the law for that?

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Speaker 1: In a very serious manner, Hi shan, great to be

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Speaker 1: with you as always. Look, I understand the concerns around.

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Speaker 1: Did I ask about the concern I want to listen.

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Speaker 1: You do this every time you say Hi, Sean. You

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Speaker 1: you always sound nice and and you are You're a

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Speaker 1: wonderful person. Alright, I agree, al right, we agree you're

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Speaker 1: a wonderful person. But here's the problem eighteen USC SEVENE

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Speaker 1: says it's a felony if you mishandle classified top secret

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Speaker 1: special access programming information. James Comey admitted she did it,

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Speaker 1: and then when it was subpoenaed, she acid washed the

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Speaker 1: hard drive, the deleting thirty three thousand emails, and then

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Speaker 1: beating up her devices. And my questions are simple, did

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Speaker 1: she commit felonies? Did she obstruct justice? Let me start

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Speaker 1: with a slightly easier one first, if you don't mind it.

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Speaker 1: That's the thirty thousand or thirty three emails that were deleted.

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Speaker 1: They were personal emails to the Clinton cow whoa, whoa?

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Speaker 1: How would you know that? Because she said they were

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Speaker 1: about yoga, a one wedding, one funeral, and emails with

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Speaker 1: her husband. But her husband does an email. So you're

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Speaker 1: saying she deleted thirty three thousand emails about yoga, a wedding,

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Speaker 1: and a funeral, and you buy that she's telling you

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Speaker 1: the truth. So actually, James Comey said this, When I

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Speaker 1: looked into the deletions, he said in that big long

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Speaker 1: press confidence that they found no evidence that the deletions

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Speaker 1: were done with any problematic And wait a minute, he

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Speaker 1: said under way, he said under oath before the committee.

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Speaker 1: When he was under oath, he went on to say

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Speaker 1: that they weren't in individually looked at by the attorneys

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Speaker 1: as Hillary said. Hillary lied when she said she sent

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Speaker 1: emails to her husband. Uh, there's no way any one

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Speaker 1: person can write thirty three thousand emails about yoga, one wedding,

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Speaker 1: and one funeral. It is impossible, right, So this I

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Speaker 1: want to clear this up. The subpoena was directed to

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Speaker 1: the big Ghazi emails and so everything that was not responsive,

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01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: and the Clinton campaign determined by law you can determine

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01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: as your own defense counsel. I I do this. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter why it was subpoena and she was pulled

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Speaker 1: to preserve her email records, and she and her lawyers

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Speaker 1: or whoever works for her decided not to agree with

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Speaker 1: the subpoena, not to follow the law. I understand the

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Speaker 1: order was given to deplete the emails before the subpoena

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Speaker 1: was served. That is not true, standing, that is not true.

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Speaker 1: The timeline I had the timeline that her campaign or

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Speaker 1: her lawyers said to the people at Platt River who

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Speaker 1: were the service, which I will completely admit, with a

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01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: terrible decision and a bad decision to use a private

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Speaker 1: email serve. You will never find me defending that decision,

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01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: just like I don't want the president, not even Hillary's

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Speaker 1: team is trying to thread the needle the way you are.

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Speaker 1: The bottom line is you just heard James comey. This

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Speaker 1: is the day he exonerated her, after he excoriated her

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Speaker 1: and admitted lies were told and that subpoena records were destroyed. Look,

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Speaker 1: he used the term extremely careless. He made the decision

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Speaker 1: that he didn't have. He didn't have a prosecution. Prosecutors

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Speaker 1: do this all the time. I'll be very honest. I

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Speaker 1: supported her. I liked your policies. I can understand your

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01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 1: frustration with me and your frustration with her because you're

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01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: duck in the question I asked you, did she obstruct

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Speaker 1: justice when she deleted, acid washed and busted up devices

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Speaker 1: with hammers? Yes? Or no? You need to know the intent, Okay,

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Speaker 1: like you need to well, what other what other intent

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Speaker 1: would there be to then to obstruct an investigation and justice?

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Speaker 1: If you acid wash your hard drive, beat up your

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Speaker 1: devices with a hammer, and delete the emails that were subpoenaed,

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01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: maybe you don't want your personal emails to make it

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Speaker 1: into the public eye. I don't know, but I will

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01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 1: say this is my frustration with Danielle. It is it

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01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: is obvious she violated multiple laws here and committed felonies.

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Speaker 1: And that is that that then leads to the outrage

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Speaker 1: of exonerating her without investigating her. Danielle, Daniel, Daniel once again,

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Speaker 1: are gonna have to I'm gonna have to give you

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Speaker 1: I'm good and I'm just great to have to be

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01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 1: talking with you. I'm going to have to give you

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01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: another teaching lesson from from the government worker perspective. Here.

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Speaker 1: You know, first of all, your great attorney, and you're

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Speaker 1: proven that because when Sean asked you one simple question,

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01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 1: which is yes or no answer. I mean it truly

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01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:50,600
Speaker 1: is yes or no answer. Um, you dive into this

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Speaker 1: long time rade of of all these good things about

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Speaker 1: the other emails, and they may have been private, and

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Speaker 1: that maybe why they did it. And then you say

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Speaker 1: things because I've been through whatever the defense to tuning,

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Speaker 1: but Hurricane was perfectly legally able to decide what was

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Speaker 1: responsive to that subpoena and what wasn't. And I do it.

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Speaker 1: I do it everybody subpoena here, Here's where we're getting

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Speaker 1: into the nuts and both of this. When we talked

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Speaker 1: about the sailor a while back, you said this was

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Speaker 1: maybe a bad decision on Hillary's part, and we don't

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Speaker 1: look at this sailor a while back he took pictures

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Speaker 1: on a submarine five pictures, um, and he spent a

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Speaker 1: year in jail for that. That was one bad decision.

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Speaker 1: I think he deserved the penalty that he got for that,

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Speaker 1: because everybody knows it's a top secret environment. You don't

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Speaker 1: take picture. He got what he deserved, probably a little

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Speaker 1: less because he got you know, he got pardoned for that.

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Speaker 1: But overall, that was one incident. If we look at

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Speaker 1: Charles Manson and we say he made a bad decision

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Speaker 1: with Sharon Tate, um, if you look at all the

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Speaker 1: rest of the things that happened, we know through the

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Speaker 1: again I say this every week, the totality of circumstances,

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Speaker 1: what happened with Sharon Tate and Charles Manson had falling

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Speaker 1: was not a bad decision. That was a calculated decision

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Speaker 1: that fell in line with a number of things that

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Speaker 1: they did that were evil. When you look at what

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, James Comey, uh, Bob Mueller, the Deputy Director uhum,

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Speaker 1: and all the rest of the people that have been

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Speaker 1: involved with this, Rod Rosenstein, all these people, McKay, that

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Speaker 1: was the word I'm looking for her page instruct All

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Speaker 1: these people have done things that are calculated, not one off,

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Speaker 1: not one bad decision. It was calculated. And here's the

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Speaker 1: gift of this whole thing. Even if when we when

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Speaker 1: we're just talking about the destruction of the phones and

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Speaker 1: the emails, even if that was done to hide personal emails,

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Speaker 1: it's still illegal. And then when it's wrapped up in

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Speaker 1: a case like this, it will be considered obstruction because

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Speaker 1: even if they're trying to hide personal emails, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: They were sending and receiving them on a government piece

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Speaker 1: of property. So that indicates where they have to follow

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Speaker 1: the law. I can tell you what happens when a

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Speaker 1: client destroys emails, for example, they get a it's called

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Speaker 1: spoliation of evidence when they are found to have done

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Speaker 1: it on purpose, and the court, you know, when they

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Speaker 1: get to trial or wherever it is that they're being adjudicated,

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01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 1: a jury or a judge is allowed to take the

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01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:26,560
Speaker 1: inference that what they destroyed was bad for them. So

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Speaker 1: that's what you're talking about that kind of evidence. It's

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Speaker 1: not it's not obstruction of justice. You talk about government

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Speaker 1: are you talking about private entity? I'm talking about a

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Speaker 1: private entity. There's the difference right there. Who government entity?

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Speaker 1: This is government property. And when you violate the law

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Speaker 1: with government property that that government the youth a topic

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Speaker 1: equipment and government equipment, you are in violation of the

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Speaker 1: law when you when you use that for personal means,

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Speaker 1: when you go outside of the office, touches, putting this

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Speaker 1: stuff in your home, uh, destroying the blackberries without the

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Speaker 1: proper chain, you are, in fact, whether or not your

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01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 1: intent was to obstruct, you are obstructing justice when it

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Speaker 1: comes to investigation, and you are destroying government property, which

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Speaker 1: is a violation of the law. And anybody else that

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Speaker 1: would have done this tape your sailor we spent a

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Speaker 1: year in jail for taking five pictures. Had he taken

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Speaker 1: five pictures of that, had he gone and then done

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Speaker 1: gone into some kind of a nuclear facility and taking pictures,

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Speaker 1: we would see is that based on the totalitious circumstances,

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Speaker 1: it was not a bad decision, and in fact, there

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Speaker 1: was a motivation there. And that's what we're looking at

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Speaker 1: when we look at this circumstances, Hillary Clinton and the

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Speaker 1: rest of this gime. I know you're always trying to

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Speaker 1: get me to say here is that you know she's

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Speaker 1: a criminal, she was wrong, she should be thrown in jail.

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Speaker 1: And all I'm trying to say is, these things are

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Speaker 1: processes where prosecutors have the discretion and you don't have

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Speaker 1: to say that. You don't have to say that. I

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Speaker 1: don't mean I'm not trying to get you to say that.

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Speaker 1: The fact is, this is the government property and government

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Speaker 1: stuff it is. You don't even have to say that

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Speaker 1: she obstructed, that she did this. You can simply say

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Speaker 1: the actions that were performed were an obsessive justice and

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Speaker 1: they were against the law in the way that the

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Speaker 1: law governs the use of government equipment and top secret information.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I gotta take a break, right there will

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Speaker 1: continue Jonathan Gilham and Danielle McLaughlin Byron York at the

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Speaker 1: bottom of the hour. And as we continue, Danielle McLaughlin

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Speaker 1: and of course Jonathan Gilham, eight hundred nine for one,

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Speaker 1: Shawn is our number. You want to be a part

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Speaker 1: of the program. Uh. I want you to finish your point, Jonathan,

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Speaker 1: because you're directly challenging in a way. But you know

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Speaker 1: what I think Danielle is really good at, and that's

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Speaker 1: being a criminal defense attorney. But when you the direct question,

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Speaker 1: did Hillary commit crimes that you have struck just as

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Speaker 1: the answer is obviously yes, it's obviously yes. And what

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Speaker 1: I what I want daniel and the rest of people

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Speaker 1: that that don't want to they say they don't want

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Speaker 1: to get into the weeds of saying Hillary is guilty

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Speaker 1: or not. Um, look at the crime, look at the

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Speaker 1: actions that we're taken, and ask and answer the question,

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Speaker 1: are those actions according to the law and the governance

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Speaker 1: of top secret information and government equipment? Are without even

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Speaker 1: talking about instruction, are is that against the law? Then

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Speaker 1: ask if this stuff was involved in investigation? And you

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Speaker 1: get it, Debbie Washerman Schulton did the same thing with

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Speaker 1: our computer and uh and the Awen brothers. If people

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Speaker 1: are maneuvering to destroy things when there is an investigation

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Speaker 1: in process, whether it's the high personal information or not,

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Speaker 1: is that obstruction of justice? And the answer is yes

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Speaker 1: there as well. Well, I Well, all I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: is what what called me see it as the head

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Speaker 1: of this investigation when he decided not to prosecute her.

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Speaker 1: And that was those thirty three thousand emails that I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry st I'm repeating myself. They were ordered deleted before

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Speaker 1: the Benghazi subpoena. They had no belief from all the

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Speaker 1: investigation that they did there was intent to obstruct justice

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Speaker 1: or to get rid of those in events they were

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Speaker 1: able to, as you know, from fragments of thousands of

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Speaker 1: emails and from other emails that weren't produced came from

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Speaker 1: other people who sort of gather a much broader and

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Speaker 1: though we don't we have never confirmed that we've gotten

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Speaker 1: those thirty three thousand emails back. No, no, I'm not

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Speaker 1: all those stalks that there were some fragments left in

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Speaker 1: the server and they did what they could. I gotta

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Speaker 1: let it go here, though, But I thank you both

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Speaker 1: for being with us. Eight nine one, Shawn are toll

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Speaker 1: free telephone number A right. More on the North Korean hostages,

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01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 1: and also the latest on obviously my interview with Rudy

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Speaker 1: Giulianni last night, which appears they will be you know,

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Speaker 1: I want to start getting money from NBC, ABC, CBS

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01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 1: and CNN because all they do is run my stuff

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01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,759
Speaker 1: seven I mean, and they've been doing it for weeks

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Speaker 1: and weeks and weeks, and we get no residuals. We want,

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Speaker 1: we deserve to get paid. We'll continue. Secretary Clinton is

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Speaker 1: someone deeply enmeshed, enmeshed in the rule of law, respect

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Speaker 1: for institutions, a lawyer. There is evidence that they were

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Speaker 1: extremely careless in their handling a very sensitive, highly classified information.

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Speaker 1: For example, seven email chains concerned matters that were classified

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Speaker 1: at the top secret Special Access Program at the time

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Speaker 1: they were sent and received. Those chains involved Secretary Clinton

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Speaker 1: both sending emails about those matters and receiving emails about

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Speaker 1: those same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion

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Speaker 1: that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton's position, or in

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Speaker 1: the position of those with whom she was corresponding about

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Speaker 1: those matters, should have known that an unclassified system was

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Speaker 1: no place for that conversation. All Right, she is a

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Speaker 1: woman that has deep respect for the law. All Right,

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Speaker 1: you've got to be kidding me, right, Um? Anyway, that

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Speaker 1: was James comey then and now um, going back to

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01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 1: the exoneration letters and and and varying drafts before the

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Speaker 1: investigation ever took place in that case. Eight nine one.

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Speaker 1: Shawn is a toll free telephone number byron Yorke is here.

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Speaker 1: He is the chief political correspondent for The Washington Examiner,

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01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: Fox News contributor, author of the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy.

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Speaker 1: How are you, sir? Doing well? Sean? Thanks for having me. Uh,

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Speaker 1: It's always good to have you. Um. Let's start with

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton and and respecting the rule of law, because

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Speaker 1: if she had such a deep respect, I would assume

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Speaker 1: she would not have deleted thirty three thousand emails, acid

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Speaker 1: washed the hard drive, and then have the devices beaten

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Speaker 1: up with a hammer. Well, you know, the key word

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Speaker 1: in that is unilaterally deleted all of those emails. She

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Speaker 1: is the one who decided what investigators could see or

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Speaker 1: could not and that's that is really perhaps the most

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Speaker 1: egregious act in all of that. And I do think

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Speaker 1: in a lot of everything that's happening now with President Trump,

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Speaker 1: I think the Clinton example of how she was treated

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Speaker 1: by the FBI, that is how the the exoneration memo

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Speaker 1: was begun in in May, how the decision was made

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Speaker 1: before not just Hillary Clinton, but maybe more than a

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Speaker 1: dozen key witnesses wherever interviewed, the fact that immunity was

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Speaker 1: handed out sort of like candy. UM and also the

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Speaker 1: fact that if you remember, it was kind of a

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Speaker 1: big deals on the July fourth weekend, July second, a

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Speaker 1: Saturday in s she was interviewed for several hours, and

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Speaker 1: then there was he was interviewed by Peter Struck. Wasn't

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Speaker 1: she exactly? He was one of them, And there was

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Speaker 1: Sunday and Monday was part of the holiday, and then

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Speaker 1: Tuesday was the first business day back. And Tuesday, July

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Speaker 1: five was the day that James Comey came out and

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Speaker 1: said all of the reasons that she should be charged

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Speaker 1: and then concluded by saying, well, we're not going to

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Speaker 1: charge her with anything. Uh. And you you almost wonder

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Speaker 1: if over that holiday weekend the FBI had enough time

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Speaker 1: to go over a three hour interview with a fine

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Speaker 1: tooth comb looking to make sure that she said the

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Speaker 1: truth in every single sentence, because they have sure been

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Speaker 1: concerned about that in current investigations. So, Uh, there's just

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01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 1: a heck of a contrast between between the way that

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Speaker 1: one was handled in the way this one is being

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Speaker 1: handled now. It's such a compare and contrast the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: I know that the media focused on only basically one

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Speaker 1: part of my interview last Night with Rudy Julianni. I

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Speaker 1: want to play what he said about Hillary Clinton because

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Speaker 1: he didn't mince words and he was very forthcoming about

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Speaker 1: saying Hillary is a criminal. Mr Mayor war laws broken.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Hillary. Did she ask I've been on

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Speaker 1: we go back three years with this show. When I

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Speaker 1: produced my chart, I remember thirteen crimes she committed, and

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Speaker 1: we got up to about eighteen. I'm sorry, Hillary, I

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Speaker 1: know you're very disappointed. You to win that you're a criminal.

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Speaker 1: Equal justice would mean you should go to jail. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I do not know why the Justice Department is not

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Speaker 1: investigating you. That James Comey told me fixed the whole

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Speaker 1: case and it was rigged. Well, you can't read that

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Speaker 1: stupid report that he wrote, which is at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of his destruction, in which he says, we're not going

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Speaker 1: to prosecute. No reasonable prosecutor would indict her. No honest

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Speaker 1: reasonable prosecutor wouldn't indict her. He said today or yesterday

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Speaker 1: called me. He said Hillary deeply respects the rule of law.

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Speaker 1: Comey said that, wow, well that this is this is

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Speaker 1: a very perverted man. I feel so sorry. Do we

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Speaker 1: have a two tier justice system in America. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: have one for Hillary and and and uh and all

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Speaker 1: all those all those Democrats, Bill Clinton. I mean I

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Speaker 1: thought that was one of maybe you know, a dozen

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Speaker 1: or more moments that were incredible that the meat you

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Speaker 1: just dismissed and didn't even report on. Well, by the way,

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Speaker 1: thank you for that interview last night. It was it

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Speaker 1: was tremendously newsworthy on a whole bunch of levels. I

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Speaker 1: agree with you, there was just I learned a lot

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Speaker 1: about what julianni was thinking about the current state of

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Speaker 1: the Mueller investigation and the president's inclination or not inclination

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Speaker 1: to interview with Mueller. I just I learned a lot

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Speaker 1: out of that interview. So um, so thank you for it.

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Speaker 1: But you know, looking back on um, you know, we

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Speaker 1: had a situation in which both major party candidates were

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Speaker 1: under investigation by the FBI, And I mean, maybe you

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Speaker 1: could make the argument that we had two sketchy candidates,

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Speaker 1: or maybe you could make the argument that the FBI

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Speaker 1: was too involved in politics, and um, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: exactly how the Clinton's situation should have been handled. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it is just a huge, huge step to indict one

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Speaker 1: of the two candidates for president in the midst of

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Speaker 1: the campaign, as it would have been in July. But um,

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Speaker 1: but I just have to think and everything we've seen

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Speaker 1: lately that the FBI has just gotten way too involved

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Speaker 1: in our political system. And um is maybe exhibit A,

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Speaker 1: B and C for that. Let me I keep bringing

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Speaker 1: it up. But I actually raised this with the mayor

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Speaker 1: last night, and who is now the president's attorney. I

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Speaker 1: said to me, it's very simple, is that Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 1: violated the Espionage Ack eighteen USC. Seven ninety three, miss

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Speaker 1: handling classified information destroying such information. James Comey admitted in

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Speaker 1: that press conference, you're right after the you know, just

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Speaker 1: two days after they met with her, because he was

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Speaker 1: writing the exoneration with Peter Struck that was being written

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Speaker 1: in May. I've never heard of an exoneration being written

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Speaker 1: so far in advance of of interviewing the main people,

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Speaker 1: seventeen other people and herself. But on top of that,

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Speaker 1: then she was obstructing justice by deleting the emails, acid

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Speaker 1: washing the drive and and beating up blackberries with hammers

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Speaker 1: or having aids to it. And then you've got the

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Speaker 1: whole LEFTBI cover up of this thing. And I do

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Speaker 1: believe they rigged an investigation. I think the crimes were obvious.

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Speaker 1: I don't think any American would get away with the

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Speaker 1: type of behavior that she pulled off there, And I

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01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 1: think they aided and abetted her, and that would be

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Speaker 1: obstructing justice in their own way. And I think it's

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Speaker 1: corrupt what they did the highest levels of the FBI,

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Speaker 1: and then if they went forward, I mean the whole

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Speaker 1: idea that they're looking into collusion with Russia and foreign

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Speaker 1: nationals aren't post influence our elections. Nobody had a problem

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Speaker 1: with Obama trying to defeat Prime Minister Netanyahu in his

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Speaker 1: last election. But more importantly, she hired an outside a

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Speaker 1: foreign agent, you know, somebody outside the country named Christopher Steele.

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Speaker 1: He was funneled money through Perkins Cooeye, which funneled it

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Speaker 1: through Fusion GPS, and he used uncorroborated, unverified Russian sources

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Speaker 1: to manip relate the American people. And then on top

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Speaker 1: of that, it gets worse because the bulk of that information,

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Speaker 1: according to the Grassly Grand MAMMO, was then used to

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Speaker 1: obtain a fizal warrant to spy on an American citizen.

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Speaker 1: Former Trump campaign associate, and they never told the judge

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Speaker 1: that nobody verified the information, nobody corroborated the information, and

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Speaker 1: that Hillary paid for it, and an asterisk that said

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Speaker 1: it might be might have a political taint to it

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Speaker 1: is not the truth to me. That's lying by omission.

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Speaker 1: And the thing that's absolutely jaw dropping in what you

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Speaker 1: were just talking about is that you do have this

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Speaker 1: retired foreign spy gathering second, third, fourth hand information about

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Speaker 1: one of the candidates working for the Clinton campaign. And

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Speaker 1: the jaw dropping part is he brings it to the FBI,

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Speaker 1: and the FBI wants to hire him to keep doing

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Speaker 1: that work during the campaign and afterwards the deal falls through.

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Speaker 1: But the FBI's UH reaction to this was too higher

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Speaker 1: Christopher Steele and have him do his work for the FBI.

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Speaker 1: And my guess is if that had actually gone into effect,

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Speaker 1: Steele would have been collecting paychecks from the Clinton campaign

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Speaker 1: and the FBI. At the same time, let's talk more

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Speaker 1: about your general thoughts about last night's interview and what

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Speaker 1: you got out of it in terms of the president

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Speaker 1: with Rudy Giuliani and Emmett Flood and Jay Seculo and

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Speaker 1: really a new team of attorneys now that he's put

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Speaker 1: together I think some of the best in the country.

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Speaker 1: And what you think this says and where you think

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Speaker 1: this is going. Yeah, My my impression after watching your

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Speaker 1: interview was that we've just had a massive turning point

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Speaker 1: in this investigation. Um. And the twenty four or thirty

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Speaker 1: six hours between the leak of the Mueller questions and

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Speaker 1: then Rudy Giuliani's appearance on your program, I think really

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Speaker 1: shows this massive change because we had had a situation

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Speaker 1: in the White House in which um ty Cobb and

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Speaker 1: um oh gosh, the other lawyer who has left, John Doubt, Yes,

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Speaker 1: John Dowd, Ty Cobb and John Doubt had basically been

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Speaker 1: UH counseling cooperation with the Mueller UM Mueller investigation. Remember

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Speaker 1: back in the in the Clinton years, there were all

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Speaker 1: these fights over executive privilege and Clinton didn't want to

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Speaker 1: give anything to the Independent Council. He even invented things

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Speaker 1: like protective function privilege, like like a secret service agents

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Speaker 1: had some sort of privilege that we haven't had these

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Speaker 1: privilege fights in this because Dowd and Cobb were co

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Speaker 1: operating cooperation and the idea was UM that if if

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Speaker 1: the White House did cooperate, then that could bring the

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Speaker 1: Muller investigation to a quicker close. And I think anybody

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Speaker 1: you know with two eyes is seeing that that didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: And I think what we saw here again with the

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Speaker 1: leak of the questions and then Juliani's appearance on your show,

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Speaker 1: I think we saw the White House taken completely different

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Speaker 1: turn towards a much more confrontational approach. They've obviously got

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Speaker 1: to make a decision about whether to talk to Mueller

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Speaker 1: and if not, how to handle it. But I think

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Speaker 1: that they are they are realizing that as far as

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Speaker 1: the president is concerned, and I know you've gone over

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Speaker 1: with your listeners this question whether a sitting president can

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Speaker 1: be indicted or not, I'm one of those who believes

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Speaker 1: he cannot. That impeachment is the proper remedy if if

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Speaker 1: there's the belief that the president has broken the law.

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Speaker 1: I think the White House has realized that that could

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Speaker 1: be where they're heading, depending on the results in November,

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Speaker 1: and they have to get out in front of this

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Speaker 1: and fight it in a different way. So I think

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Speaker 1: that's basically the biggest message from from your show last night,

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Speaker 1: isn't It also probably going to dovetail into a referendum

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Speaker 1: come the mid terms. You know, it's a great question

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Speaker 1: because I think back to two thousand six. It was

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Speaker 1: George Bush's second term, so that's different from today. But um,

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Speaker 1: the Iraq War was going terribly. George Bush's UM approval

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Speaker 1: ratings were in the mid thirties and the Real Clear

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Speaker 1: Politics average of polls, in other words, they were five

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Speaker 1: to eight points lower than Donald Trump's art today. And

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Speaker 1: there was a there was part of the Democratic base

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Speaker 1: that wanted to impeach Bush if Democrats won the House

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and six. And the problem was maybe

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Speaker 1: forty something percent of Democrats supported impeachment for George W. Bush,

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Speaker 1: far far smaller numbers among independents and certainly among Republicans.

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Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi, who stood to become the Speaker of the

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Speaker 1: House if they won, was worried about this, worried that

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Speaker 1: it was would turn off voters if the Democratic election.

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Speaker 1: Democratic campaign was, you know, elect us and will impeach

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Speaker 1: the president. So she came out in May of two

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Speaker 1: thousand six, about this time of year, and said impeachment

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Speaker 1: is off the table. Uh. And they went on to win,

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Speaker 1: and impeachment was indeed off the table. Different situation now

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Speaker 1: Nacy Pelosi still wants to be speaker, although that may

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Speaker 1: not happen. Um. But about in the most recent poll

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Speaker 1: we've seen from Quinnepiac, se of Democrats want to see

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Speaker 1: the impeachment of the president. If Democrats when the House,

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Speaker 1: now that is going to be that's a big number

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna put a lot of pressure on Democrats.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure they can get away with the old

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Speaker 1: impeachment is off the table line from from Nancy Pelosi,

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Speaker 1: which means, uh, since the overall electorate, the overall public

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Speaker 1: is opposed to impeachment, I think that gives Republicans a

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Speaker 1: political argument to say, look, look at these Democrats. Our

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Speaker 1: economy is going well, America is showing strength in the world.

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Speaker 1: The president is enacting a whole list of conservative of

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Speaker 1: agenda items. And if you elect Democrats, what do they

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Speaker 1: want to do? They want to impeach the president. That

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Speaker 1: is certainly going to be one of the arguments we're

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Speaker 1: gonna hear a we're running out of time completely Byron York.

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Speaker 1: As always, you've been doing phenomenal work, uh, writing for

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Speaker 1: the Washington Examiner, and it's always better when I get

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Speaker 1: a direct link uh from you or cut and paste

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Speaker 1: uh and uh. I applaud anybody making those changes. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: We hear your complaints and we're listening to you. Okay,

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Speaker 1: alright Byron York. Thank you, Shawn and tone free telephone number.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna wrap things up to today. We have an

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Speaker 1: amazing Hannity tonight nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel

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Speaker 1: as the Great One, Mark Levin, Joe to Jenneva, David Limbaugh,

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Speaker 1: Sarah Carter, Greg Jarrett, Dan Bongino, Sebastian Gorka, and much more.

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Speaker 1: That's all Happening ninety eastern. Analyze everything in our interview

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Speaker 1: with Rudy Giulianni and the media meltdown that followed. That's

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Speaker 1: all happening tonight at ninth. Thanks for being with us,

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Speaker 1: See you tonight at I'm back here tomorrow