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Speaker 3: When when I was done working, I was so nervous.

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Speaker 2: Well those old hotel and take some change, you know.

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Speaker 2: It's like, how personal? How are you feeling?

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Speaker 1: You? You don't have seen gosherds about the ingot Ubert.

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Speaker 3: You gotta hear the story you got, you know, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Now, Okay, well you should, you should be out there.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm telling you it has been such a good

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Speaker 3: Let's tell this story. But first, I just want to

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Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. You're going in the Charle chip.

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Speaker 5: Jar that is his woman crush Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Yes, anybody who gives us, uh do you remember Charles

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Speaker 2: I want to hear it.

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Speaker 1: If it wasn't for Joel Goodheart and Wrestler Radio, I

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Speaker 2: And this was like the bar shows back in the day.

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Speaker 5: Let's take the question and then let's get to the story.

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Speaker 2: Am I I five dollars? Super chat? Hi Todd?

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Speaker 3: your memories of her?

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Speaker 1: All through this book there's a theme about Nancy Sullivan

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Speaker 1: meant to Sam, and how much she meant to Phonsie Scorpio.

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Speaker 1: played like every role off his nails. But she didn't

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Speaker 1: I can't even say the guy's name, to be honestly,

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Speaker 1: I just hate that songer but so much. You have

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Speaker 1: no idea. Nancy was everything to me. I remember.

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Speaker 3: singing like the old timey songs, like just just singing like, uh,

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Speaker 1: It's called classic rock?

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Speaker 3: That's my because I only got to I think I

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Speaker 3: oh god, what was that building called when we were up.

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Speaker 2: On a mountain Jim Thorpe. Jim Thorpe, Never remember that

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Speaker 3: That's where I worked with her, and she caned me

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Speaker 2: She had gone to w c W.

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Speaker 1: She stayed for a while. Kevin, her husband left without her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I never got to like maybe it was

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Speaker 5: That was incredible. That his description though in the book

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, there was a guy named Paul Bellace we called

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Speaker 2: He was psychic.

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Speaker 3: No, he knew when, he knew when people were going

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, I don't know how he was. He kneto,

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Speaker 1: So one of the signs of the other was Todd

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Speaker 2: We had a couple. I mean, you know, I think

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Speaker 2: So I know that, But there there was there's another

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Speaker 2: Todd is God story. Did you thought about that in

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Speaker 1: I think I might have, because that happens is that era,

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Speaker 2: That's the one I was really referring to. I know

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Speaker 1: Incident. Over the years, it's twenty five years. I've seen

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Speaker 1: nu Jash, I've seen Sam Man tell the story about

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Speaker 1: just me and Scorpio and Scorpik's the funniest thing to

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Speaker 1: the road, nw Jack, Like, yeah, I came in. I

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Speaker 1: When you came in and they were all naked over there?

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Speaker 1: I said, who let you in? Like it didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: It was in insane story.

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Speaker 2: So you were saying you and this lovely lady were

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Speaker 3: No scorpio, oh sc scorp right, Okay, but they're saying

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Speaker 2: Now, who was more screwed up that night?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: Who was more apped up?

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Speaker 4: Was it?

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Speaker 1: You? Like?

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Speaker 3: Because you talk about drug use back in the day,

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Speaker 1: Listen, Shane believed he was in the room and Eddie

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Speaker 5: All right, what we could go We could go over

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Speaker 1: He said he was the booking room. There wasn't a

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Speaker 2: Maybe they called that room the booking room because that's

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Speaker 1: Happened in Paoli, in that radical studio, at Max Radigo's studios,

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Speaker 2: Well, how did the story get out?

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Speaker 5: Did Scorpio tell everybody at the Scorpio tell I heard

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Speaker 5: Scorpio tell it on a shoot once he's.

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Speaker 1: Thought, I meant the four of us were sort finding Sam,

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Speaker 1: so of course we would repeat the story. Basically, sam

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Speaker 2: Are we telling this story? So people know what the

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Speaker 2: hell we're talking about?

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Speaker 1: Girl? That's Scorpio? Who if you don't know and what

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Speaker 1: you know he does?

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Speaker 2: I don't know anything. I know what I hear.

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Speaker 5: Parts of Scorpio may or may not be grossly enlarged

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Speaker 5: for those that may larger, Okay, no.

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Speaker 1: It's as large as the piers in the mirror anyway.

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Speaker 1: So he got a little crazy with the girl, and

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Speaker 1: as he was using his member, he was screaming, say

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Speaker 2: And what are you doing.

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Speaker 1: I was just laughing. I thought it was very funny.

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Speaker 2: See all these years, I thought you were banging the

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Speaker 1: Well she became what we called the pony. It's a

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Speaker 1: too much for now, but I'm just saying, yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was Yeah, it was a fan. It was not a fan.

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Speaker 1: It was a rat. It wasn't a rat. It was submissive.

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Speaker 1: Maybe she was, I don't know, but Fanzie fell in

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Speaker 2: But then they broke up a little while after that.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, he got sober one morning, like Mama, what

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Speaker 1: I do?

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Speaker 2: I can't up? Oh my god, I can't.

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Speaker 5: What we gotta comment from the Blue Mini Scorpio member

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Speaker 3: Talk about you and Phonsie because you guys, You guys

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Speaker 3: made me smile every time you guys work together for

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Speaker 2: How much fun.

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Speaker 1: Well, everything was funny except being in the rings't stiff, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because we couldn't work. We were not going to be

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Speaker 1: and I got there and what TUXI don't Magic Cornett

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Speaker 1: and Paulie or something. Come on. We had to go

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Speaker 1: So we couldn't work. So we just literally said, let's

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Speaker 1: And we loved each other up good. So anybody was

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Speaker 2: I'm not crapping on it. I enjoyed it like I love.

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Speaker 3: I love the fact that when you're one of the

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Speaker 3: but then to you guys in the ring together, it

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Speaker 3: just made me chuckle because I'm just like, yeah, they're

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Speaker 2: Each other and it's okay because you know, we love

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Then we drive the Jim Thorp up that big

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Speaker 1: got and Nancy actually we goes fans. You know, you're

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Speaker 1: a heel we're a baby face. The guy got out

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Speaker 1: here and walk the rest of the hill in the

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Speaker 1: you can't walk that hill. And every time we said

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Speaker 1: we walk all the way up as a rib.

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Speaker 2: He could have just put his head down in the

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Speaker 1: Of course he said that was the rib.

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Speaker 2: So mean, Angela, Angela Dawn five dollars super chat Hello everyone.

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Speaker 2: Was there ever a movement during a match where you

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Speaker 1: Did you no dead?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Although there was a match one time, We're honest to

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Speaker 1: god where Pansie thought I was dead true story Ross

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Speaker 1: River ice Rink. Yeah, yeah, Saboo and Van Dam and

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Speaker 1: Phonsie and couldn't tay that. Welles is going on but

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Speaker 1: it's an ice cold heart surface. You're like a board

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Speaker 1: over it. There was no there's no match outside anywhere

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Speaker 1: more No, probably not there. You know. I've seen it

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Speaker 1: happen in football a lot, but for me, I didn't

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Speaker 1: What I had the wind knocked out of me, which

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Speaker 1: on TV. The guy just Lazer go Oh no, well

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Speaker 1: that was me. I couldn't couldn't get could do anything,

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Speaker 1: and thought becomes Doster you okay, And I didn't say

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Speaker 1: to no Iggy nothing. We killed Todster, we killed He's

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Speaker 1: running around Doster's dead, Dosters dead. I'm trying to shut

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Speaker 1: the fun. I'm fine, yeah, because I was the closest

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Speaker 1: one about being dead. But yeah, he really did believe right,

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00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: and he killed me. Give him the Iggy. I just

443
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 1: I couldn't do anything.

444
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 3: Oh my god, wasn't it you that when we had

445
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 3: that huge pull apart at the arena went for Gary,

446
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 3: When when Shane did the halo gimmick?

447
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: What was was it you that he that went up

448
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 2: behind him and he turned around and punched you in

449
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 2: the head.

450
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 1: No, I was the first one on the ring and

451
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 1: it was really cool. I love watching it over again.

452
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: Literally it was literally dove through the ropes.

453
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 2: Okay. Somebody came up behind him and.

454
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 3: He always thought it was you, And he says, I

455
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 3: turned around and I punched him because I thought it

456
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 3: was a fan.

457
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: He goes in here it was Todd Gordon.

458
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: I have to watch it again. I don't remember that.

459
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: I just remember him saying to me, how to funck

460
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: my aint out of her? Scary that we'll make it

461
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 1: looking better by having two fans that were planted there

462
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: from our school come over the railing, except eighty your

463
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 1: people came up before they got over.

464
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: I was going to say there was more than two

465
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 2: that jumped that railing. Because we got.

466
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 1: We're not to be planning anybody. I was like, whoa,

467
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: that was scary being a Gary come to back. Gary

468
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: went to a hospital across the street at my store,

469
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: Thomas Jefferson Hospital. He finally comes in here. All this

470
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: time I was sleeping sitting up for like months and

471
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: did it the Hayles off. He was so happy to

472
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: do it, a jigging. He said, Gary, don't hate me,

473
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: but how did you feel about keeping the hair of

474
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: warm for a little while? Longer? He looked me, brother

475
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: were talking about? I said, well, only when you leave

476
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: the house, I mean you sleep with your bed. I

477
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: want people to think he still got a broken neck.

478
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: I got an idea, and sure enough, and he did

479
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,479
Speaker 1: it so well. What he did was when he went

480
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: in the ring for when Shane shook him. Yeah, he

481
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: put his hand in his pocket, yes, so that he

482
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: couldn't brace himself when he got down, so it looked.

483
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, he looked crippled.

484
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: Yes, he did that amazingly. Yeah, and that made that

485
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 1: whole angle work. But just fly. But he wouldn't keep

486
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: that ale.

487
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 3: That was one of the scariest nights of my life.

488
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 3: I mean, I had people grabbing and punching me and I,

489
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 3: you know, I I take it a bunk. So I

490
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 3: was trying to sell, but I couldn't get my feet

491
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 3: to get flat on the My feet were being drug.

492
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: Our smart crowd would never go after whatever He'll say. No,

493
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: they're all smart, really really gotten them. You know. It

494
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: was like samn blinding and we actually got you know,

495
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: we got him and we love we get him. And

496
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying that the greatest baling in the world.

497
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: So smart, so scary. Here's a question for you. Since

498
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 2: the book has been released, has Paul Hayman reached out

499
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: to you? Have you like, when's the last time you

500
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: spoke to Paul?

501
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: Last time I spoke to Paul, that was what he

502
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: asked me to come down to take the word his

503
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: d v D they're doing for the w which I

504
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 1: did ask me once after that, but once it came out.

505
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: That's the last time we spoke.

506
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 2: So you don't know if he'd like even read the book. No,

507
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: nothing from him.

508
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 3: Okay, do you think there's any stories in there that

509
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 3: he would probably challenge you one.

510
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll challenge him. I mean, I think

511
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: that he's not to be happy to see them in there.

512
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: He's upset what I'm talked about? What really happened to

513
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: the which nobody including yourself what he knows that story,

514
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: but it's in the book. But I'll tell you you

515
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: know what you hear.

516
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I still don't know why we went bankrupt, Todd,

517
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 3: and I was there for seven years.

518
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 1: I don't know you bankrupted the company. It was mesive.

519
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: That was as a fan.

520
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 5: That was honestly what I wanted to read the most

521
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 5: was how it all went down, that that whole transition

522
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 5: with you and him and how and that was the

523
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 5: most fascinating part to me, was how like how it

524
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 5: went from you to him and just that whole dynamic

525
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 5: with him. And it just seems like everything with him

526
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 5: is such like a psychological game. And I don't know,

527
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 5: it's just he's he's such an interesting guy, but it

528
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 5: seems like a lot of it is a manipulation game,

529
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 5: but I don't know it's it's how build and drop

530
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 5: it is, it's you know, it's crazy.

531
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: One of the lines I say in the book is

532
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: I lost the game in chest that didn't even realize

533
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: I was playing.

534
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a great line.

535
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: That's the truth. You know, like we're getting expenses are

536
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: getting crazy, and they're paying three thousand dollars MSG Network,

537
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 1: three thousand dollars a week for Sunshine Network. That's twenty

538
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: four thousand dollars a month. That's before we got to

539
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: the pay for level. There's a whole other category. The

540
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: reason we took those deals, one was because Paul said,

541
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: we got to do New York Studio fifty four. I

542
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: got the whole show sponsor. It's done. No, every commercial

543
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: is done. They're climbing over each other's sponsor the show.

544
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: We take the deal, sign a contract, not one commercial,

545
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: not one still go on, we move forward Sunshine Network.

546
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, that was not him so much

547
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: as it was both of us. And we thought we

548
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: could sell commercials down there. And the guys we brought in,

549
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: Howard Brody, they weren't able to sell the commercial We

550
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,239
Speaker 1: thought they would. So also, we're not getting anything back

551
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: to you know, anybody buys a shirt from our advertisements,

552
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: and you know I can tell them what things are

553
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: getting bad and doing so much money left? You know,

554
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: I can't twenty four thousand dollars a month. You know,

555
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: you don't work and house shows what you're paying for everything.

556
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: You're not getting that money back. So I tell them

557
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: it's ten weeks left, you got nine weeks left, eight

558
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: weeks left. It's worked. Yeah, that's how it went. And

559
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: I said, found an investor. I got a guy's willing

560
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,239
Speaker 1: putting it, and I understand I gifted Paul forty nine

561
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: percent of the company. He'd never taken a paycheck, so

562
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: I gifted him forty nine percent of the company because

563
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: that's just why I am. I cold, is standing work

564
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: for for free? So since guy wants twenty percent or

565
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: ten to meets of us, and we said, I'm not

566
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: giving up any of my shares. I have business in

567
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: ten weeks. What are you talking about if you wanna

568
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: up twenty cent of your shares? I said, so, what's

569
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: you go? Forty nine thirty In the fifty forty nine

570
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: was the fact that someone said the last word. I

571
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: worried about burning the house down. You know I won't

572
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: do it, So we didn't make the deal. I gotta

573
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: call on my friend uncle work for HBO Music had

574
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: of Sony Music. HBOS would like to have a meeting

575
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: with us. Wow, that would be like four weeks left.

576
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: I mean tomorrow, where's the tape? It'll be there. So

577
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: I have to say the fantasy, right, it'll be there.

578
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: I said, well, this is no joke, HBO man, I

579
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: got up there in New York. Oh, there's my thumb

580
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: on my butt. Never was never there.

581
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 5: Wow, Dad, I couldn't believe that was That was one

582
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 5: of the learning that was incredible.

583
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: That he just you know, I mean tell you this

584
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: for facts. It's for a fact. My instinct would be

585
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: that he was maneuvering at that point to get the

586
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: company because he wanted to be vincit Man, and he

587
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: give wanted to be Jerry Lawler. I wanted to be

588
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: vinced and he had to lose the greater now to

589
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: be me. He hated it was Todd and Paul's companies.

590
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: Todd he wanted to be Pauses, which somehow over the

591
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: years he's made that become the way people feel in

592
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: the book, I suppose why it isn't that way, And

593
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: I was never that way, and it became that way.

594
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: It's okay, but you know there's more to it than that.

595
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: And when I left, he was going to kill you.

596
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: We had a deal, didn't understanding. I wasn't get so

597
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: much money back. You know, I had to take so

598
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: much a month. If he didn't pay it, his family would.

599
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: I had a relationship with them, so I was gonna

600
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: get my money back. But but the end of ninety seven,

601
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: guys couldn't stand working there anymore. The director which I

602
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: made a family, had become fractured. Up the wazoo. There

603
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: was a New York click, a Philly click, this click,

604
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: that click, and there was never clicks when I was

605
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: running that place. Ever. We had people hudder around towards

606
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: monitor or watch the airbus's matches, not saying, hey, I'm

607
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: making my own belt, made my own Yeah, they're under

608
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: my own thing, like okay, whatever you want. You know,

609
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: it was ridiculous.

610
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: See like for me, I when you say the Philly click,

611
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: I was part of that Philly click. But I was

612
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 3: friends with everybody like I tried to be.

613
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: That you weren't brought in that inner grouping of New

614
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: York or Philly. You were a great and your portos,

615
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: but so is called a enemy saboo. They weren't from Philly.

616
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: It's just that people that we were all close friends with.

617
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, like we called the Philly Click, like everybody who

618
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: flew out of Philly Airport.

619
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: And then that's what we called the Philly Click.

620
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: And then like Jack, Victory and Dreamer were part of

621
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 3: it too, because we all would hang out together. Corino

622
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 3: LOUD'ANGELI me that was now that when I think of

623
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 3: Philly Click, that's who Oh C. W Anderson, That's who

624
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 3: I think of because we always hung out together.

625
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: But like I tried to like I never saw what

626
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: you saw.

627
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 3: I tried to be friends with everybody and keep a

628
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: good relationship with everybody. There are people I was closer

629
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: with than others. Obviously, you know, you travel with people

630
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 3: like you know, you build relationships. But like as a

631
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: talent there, I always thought of us as a family,

632
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 3: Like I didn't.

633
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: Really for a couple of years too, until as I said, now,

634
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, somebody else is gonna write the

635
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: checks and I'm gonna stay there to make sure everything's good,

636
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: because I'm the one's got the relationships business wise with

637
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: Japan was here, we're there, and he needed me to

638
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: continue those relationships where all the money were gone at

639
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: the end in ninety seven. Is you're saying, here's the

640
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: part you have no clue about. I said, I'm done,

641
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm i gotta go whatever. I said, trying to see that.

642
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: You know, everybody's leaving, like everyone's to jump. I helped

643
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 1: Teddy and Johnny get into WCW, and that was where

644
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: we were always always polar opposites. Et boo, he wants

645
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: to leave here and go there. I said, he had

646
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: to make ten times a year where he's making hear,

647
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: how dare he got bad? Like that? Became your public enemy,

648
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: his enemy. So whoever wanted to leave was his enemy.

649
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: And I said, dude, he broke his neck at five

650
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: five hundred bucks a night, he's gonna go make two

651
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars. How did he be grudging that?

652
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: We were always so opposed on that? Anyway? Now everyone

653
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: wants to go? Is every cigarette? What's going on there?

654
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: I said, you got you gotta fracture Loger samone wants

655
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: to go. They order w c W what we call

656
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: it is all right, hold on, we can do this,

657
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: We can do this. I said, yeah, there's always our

658
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: goal is beating with us against the world. We're a

659
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: little edgine that could right. He needed to get back there,

660
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: and his creative mind said, hey, if we have a

661
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: jewing enemy, if there's a mole we're trying to bring

662
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: ECW down, I can bring the group back as one.

663
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, Samon into the truth, finds me the truth,

664
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: screwing to the truth. But I didn't. I didn't let

665
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: it up. The ny way elf was really going on.

666
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: You've got to be the heel. And then a year

667
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: from now, you appreciate this fancy what you come back,

668
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: you will be the greatest in the history of professional wrestling.

669
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: Who is back?

670
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: Are you telling me that the call was a work.

671
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: Trying to I assumed he knew that. I assumed Bubba

672
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: Tommy knew that. But apparently that d isn't. Nobody knew that.

673
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: He didn't smart than anybody.

674
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 2: Else, because I heard it at the studio.

675
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 1: He wrote it. He don't how to say this. It yeah,

676
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: And I played that and I cooked that for the

677
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: last thirty years, and that's why I wrote the books.

678
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 2: To this daytime, I swear to you. I kept saying, wait,

679
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: I kept selling.

680
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 3: I kept saying to myself, how did they break into

681
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 3: the answering machine so we could hear that message?

682
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: Uh, Francine, because I could take my footage with me.

683
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: I gave him the footage to keep using to run

684
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: b rolls on every show. He could have done that

685
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: if I took it with me, but nobody thought that

686
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: through like that. So hey, it worked for him, and

687
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: for a while the locker room started bonding together again.

688
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: It was a good thing. I wanted the company to succeed,

689
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: exact opposite of being portrayed in when I need to

690
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: fail and see.

691
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 3: I can't even I'm in shock right now that he

692
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: worked everybody.

693
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: On that one.

694
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: Then imagine that.

695
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 5: Look at me.

696
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: I am flabber est it. I never knew. There's so

697
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: much I didn't know, and it was I was right there.

698
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: In all fairness, nobody knew that that was I feel

699
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: dumb as ship. No, that was one of the two

700
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: of us together. I'd be being cool en nothing, lock

701
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: it up and just suck it up. Well, people were

702
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: saying things everywhere like that. Well, I hate it, you guys,

703
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 1: I wanted this company to keep going otherwise on them

704
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: back in.

705
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 2: A minute, so you I can't wrap my head around it.

706
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: So you and Phonsie right having that that private discussion

707
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: that I thought was broken into and stolen, so we

708
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: can all hear it.

709
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 2: That was all work.

710
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: That was all work. I don't know what I told

711
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: Fonder didn't tell. I mean at the beginning, they were

712
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: all asked me to help them out, and I was

713
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: helping them out, and I told him in front they

714
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't leave. I'm helping them. I'm helping them if I can.

715
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: I want to get them another jobt it. That's the

716
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: part you don't people thought, Oh, it's three underneath and

717
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: knowing he knew, and then she got to help me.

718
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: See in the company, I didn't get these guys back

719
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: because these guys know that they come back. Is that

720
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: because you're paying them more. That's how they stayed.

721
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: But the phone call was a work that I heard. Yeah,

722
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: Oh I feel so that's great. I feel so dumb.

723
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 2: I literally sat I got worked. I literally sat there

724
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: with my like like I just sit with my jo

725
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, oh my god. I can't believe

726
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: we're all sitting there like, oh my god.

727
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: And I said there were Joey stars when yeah, that

728
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 1: was not easy.

729
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 2: No, well, I can't imagine it would be set.

730
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: And I waited. I thought I forgot about it until

731
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: the and I'm like, wait a minute, it's never smartened

732
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: them up like in twenty five years.

733
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: No, I don't know anything.

734
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: I know that I don't know.

735
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

736
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: This is the authorized story. Suppose the unauthorized story. I

737
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: was never interviewed for one DVD, Rise and Falls.

738
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: The only one I was interviewed for.

739
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 3: Okay, I was interviewed for the ones that Shane did,

740
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 3: like uh, you know, the ones that weren't w W.

741
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 3: After w W e involved, they never called me for anything.

742
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: It was it was the one that shaped forever hardcore.

743
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: That's the one I was interviewed for.

744
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: But why do you think I wasn't interviewing you think.

745
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: You would tell that story?

746
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: Probably because Paul, you know, I got this doorry about

747
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: I got you know, W Well.

748
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 2: He come back and say to you, you're lying.

749
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: Do you think I don't think we'll ever talk again?

750
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 3: But I mean, if if he was Polly if you

751
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 3: hear this, would you would would he like challenge you

752
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 3: and say, there's no way you're full of ship?

753
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: That could be one tactic you might take. I don't know,

754
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: here's what my guess would be. But we're growing it

755
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 1: does Carlos being omniping or nibbi annoying twat we both

756
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: would say. We both would say to each other, don't

757
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: acknowledge him, because you do. You're you're you're taking your

758
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: company and you're bringing it down his level. Instead, we

759
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: took one w w WF. We took a w w W.

760
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: We're trying to elevate ourselves to that level. So right

761
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: now he's at that level. I mean he's yeah, a

762
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: plump spot, you know what I'm saying. Lastly, they say

763
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: ignoring me is the best thing he can do. It

764
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: will go away. That's fine. Not looking at it for

765
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: a challenge, not looking for a fight or an argument.

766
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: I just got tiv he to call pull him as

767
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: he's w and I thought, let me tell the real

768
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: story what happened. I mean, it was his, but it

769
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: wasn't always his. I had some kind of a legacy there.

770
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: Of course he didn't.

771
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 5: And even though that's the real story. It'll either never

772
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 5: be told, you know, in that main forum and never

773
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,479
Speaker 5: be acknowledged, and he'll never sell it. He'll just either

774
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 5: continue just the narrative that had never happened in his

775
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 5: world and just name of DZW just like you said.

776
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: That would be my guess. I mean, he may come back,

777
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I'm saying my guess. He's just

778
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: say yeah, I left that behind thirty years ago, five

779
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: years ago.

780
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 5: We broke him once, I did an interview, once did something,

781
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 5: somebody said something about him. He got really pissed off,

782
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 5: and he took to Twitter and he lit it up.

783
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 5: So you never know, he might see it and he

784
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 5: might Wow, he might get.

785
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: A little ohne under a different name and say, you know,

786
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: but whatever, I don't care. I'm sixty eight down. Didn't

787
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: work silent for twenty five years.

788
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 2: You're just telling your truth. Yeah, your truth, Dan Lemley,

789
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 2: five dollars super check.

790
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: Truth, not my truth. It's the truth, be truth, the truth.

791
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

792
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 2: He listen. Dan says he can't wait for the book

793
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 2: to relive. He see there be a history. Dan, you're

794
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 2: going into Charles chip Yard. Let me ask you a question,

795
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: do you have a favorite chapter.

796
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: I do, but one of the only ones that's not

797
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: about wrestling. That's very sad whatever. I'm just saying, it's

798
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: a death of my family and it was really heavy

799
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: to me. And that Mike Johnson was nice to say,

800
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: the most poignant chapter in the book, and was he

801
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: thought the best chapter in the book. Sister. I lost

802
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: my sister, who's my best friend, like an every day

803
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: every day or twenties or thirty all the way through. Yeah,

804
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: a PhD. Brilliant cout I mean, unbelievable. Uh that brain

805
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 1: cancer one day out of nowhere like that, eleven months later,

806
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: and then COVID came three months after that. It's good. Yeah,

807
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: she had died with COVID. But I'm just saying that

808
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: that's the chapter that I wrote without sewing because I

809
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: couldn't say it. I couldn't. Everything I did was I

810
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: doing zoom. We did eight hours ten at zoom a week.

811
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: All I do is tell stories and all you do

812
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: is laugh.

813
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: YEAHS told you that story.

814
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: I couldn't verbalize it. I had to write it myself.

815
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: And so that would be the one program.

816
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry for that. Yeah, that that would be hard.

817
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 3: Families everything, So I get it.

818
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 2: But on a on a lighter note.

819
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: Uh, how about that time in Pittsburgh early morning flight?

820
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: He's already laughing? You know the story. Damn anyway, Sam

821
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 1: and Squirrepio myself at the baggs carousel. What that Phonsie.

822
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: No one can find Phonsie. We just got there. What

823
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: could you be? Wait for? The bags? Were the bags?

824
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 1: They start to come down? The carousel moves sad sleep

825
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: as the bags coming down?

826
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: God, I mean yeah, note was he asleep? Or was he?

827
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: You know what?

828
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 5: Phonzie makes a great foil to a lot of the stories.

829
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 5: I have to say, every one of them ends with

830
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 5: some sort of line about Phonsie.

831
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: For the most part, Phonsie's favorite line was guys, just

832
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: save the fat one for me.

833
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 5: He didn't care about the order. That was what I

834
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 5: learned about Phonsie. Fonzie didn't care about the order.

835
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: Last or just give me a fat one.

836
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 2: Oh God, I can't I missed a party.

837
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 3: I would have liked to hang out with you guys,

838
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 3: just one time, just to see the debauchery's.

839
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: Just come back.

840
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't partake it.

841
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: Sorry, Yeah, well I.

842
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 3: Wasn't there, but I feel like I was there reading

843
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 3: this book, so I want everybody.

844
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 2: Is it on Amazon, by.

845
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 1: The way, came back yesterday number one.

846
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 2: Congratulations, Oh my god, that's.

847
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: Brilliant, number released the number one wrestling book or I

848
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean that was pretty overwhelming.

849
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: Rea amazing. Well, the next time I see you, I

850
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 3: want to signed copy you got it?

851
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want one because I have it on the

852
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: digital right now. When I'm reading it's hard to read

853
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: on my phone. I want to.

854
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: I want to digital other pictures and stuff.

855
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does, it does, it does.

856
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 3: But I like, I want you to write something to

857
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 3: me because, as I said earlier, you're the first person

858
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 3: I ever met in ECW and I honestly like, I

859
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: feel like I always say.

860
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 2: Paul gave me my break, he gave me the ball,

861
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: let me run with it.

862
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 3: But you're the one that I feel like you saw

863
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 3: me first, and I feel like if you didn't see

864
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 3: something in me, you would have probably said you don't

865
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 3: got a kid, go.

866
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: Home or something like that.

867
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: No, you know the only thing I booked for you was.

868
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: Penny Pull Stations, Miss Montgomeryville.

869
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 3: Its Montgomeryville, Yes, yea, And that I believe is the

870
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 3: first night that I met Paul.

871
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, I got an idea for discrocing our school.

872
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: I think she can pull this off. He came out

873
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: in the sash.

874
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 2: Miss came like this with the long the long gloves.

875
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Speaker 1: I remember I missed the parade. That's Miss montgomery Ville.

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Speaker 1: For God's sakes, who's new.

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Speaker 3: And you know what was so great about that is

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Speaker 3: when I took that bump. I never went to the

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Speaker 3: locker room. I went straight out to the car.

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Speaker 2: I went home.

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Speaker 1: That's what house would be real ultimately.

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Speaker 2: And then I go, I go, oh, I wonder if

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Speaker 2: I have a job. Because I didn't talk to anybody.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know if it was a good bomb. I

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Speaker 2: didn't know what was going on. You know, thank you, No,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you. I've said it. You're the You're the

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Speaker 2: first guy I met in this business.

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Speaker 1: And Brandy, You'll always be in my heart.

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Speaker 2: I love you, Todd. I I'm so glad.

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Speaker 1: That's shoot. True, it's a shoot.

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Speaker 3: It's a it's it's a definite shoot. Well, everybody needs

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Speaker 3: to go to Amazon type in Todd is God get

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Speaker 3: this book.

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Speaker 2: And if you're in when's your next signing?

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Speaker 1: What do you every Born's and Noble By the way,

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Speaker 1: any bookstore. Noble's carrying it, Simon Schuster, that's what they do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's brilliant. The little bit that I've read so far.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to finish it this weekend, and I'm probably

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Speaker 3: going to read it again if I get it in print.

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Speaker 3: Who thought, Yeah, I I definitely will because I'm laughing

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Speaker 3: my ass off the little bit that I read so far.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to get into the juicy part.

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Speaker 1: You know this today alone. I got heard from Bob

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Speaker 1: Artiz John fitting like, oh but god, I've only read

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00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: twenty five pages. I'm already loving it. That's very cool.

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Speaker 2: It's great. It's great.

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Speaker 3: I wish you all the success in the world. I

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Speaker 3: hope you become the best selling author in history from this.

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Speaker 1: You got a good guy with Chad by the way

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Speaker 1: two times, don't.

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Speaker 2: Put him over. We don't put him over on this show, Todd.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. No, we don't put him please.

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Speaker 5: And Todd, I was going to say, I would take

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Speaker 5: the free copy or I'll believe Shane's part of the story.

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Speaker 2: So that's where you got it. You got to weigh

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Speaker 2: it that way.

917
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Speaker 5: I'll either go with Shade's story or the book, either one.

918
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 2: Without me on this show, he's nothing. So let's just

919
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: I'm the star. Here's when I met Todd and we

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Speaker 2: were doing the other show.

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Speaker 5: It kept going off the rails, and I kept bringing

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Speaker 5: it back and they kept going off the rails, and

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Speaker 5: I kept breathing.

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Speaker 2: Was it smoother this time with him and I? Because

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Speaker 2: you know, we go back. I would think it would

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Speaker 2: be then Hughsy he was usy drinking? Was he drunk?

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Speaker 1: He was husy.

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Speaker 2: He's drunk. Yes see, I'm very sober.

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Speaker 3: I got a good had on my shoulders. I knew

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Speaker 3: this was going to be a great interview. Do you

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Speaker 3: have anything you want to say to the fans?

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Speaker 2: Can they find?

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Speaker 4: Well? You were you?

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Speaker 2: Are you on social media?

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Speaker 1: Todd? Here? No, I'm I'm both Facebook, had my emails AOL.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just saying I love it. I know my

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Speaker 4: But nonetheless, well listen, you know there's nine others without them,

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Speaker 4: without their chance, without their intensity out they're bringing weapons

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Speaker 4: to the show, right.

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Speaker 1: That's that relationship is important. Any relationship we had the building.

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Speaker 1: God bless everyone on.

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Speaker 2: I love ma all really absolutely well. I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 3: I'm on social media, so if you ever need something

946
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Speaker 3: that you want to get the word out, text me

947
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Speaker 3: or call me and I'll post it for you.

948
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Speaker 2: Because we want to get a million copies of this

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Speaker 2: book sold.

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Speaker 3: We want you to come see Todd when he is

951
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Speaker 3: in your area because he'll be making appearances. And I'm

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Speaker 3: just happy I got to see you again, and I'm

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Speaker 3: happy you're feeling better.

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Speaker 1: And I'm we've got things going on. To man, it's.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, absolutely so hopefully I see you soon. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: you coming on, Todd is God love you, Fredy everywhere.

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Speaker 3: I love you to buy the book, show Todd some

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Speaker 3: love and we will keep in touch for sure, and

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Speaker 3: I will I will text you after I'm done reading.

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Speaker 3: I want you to know my thoughts, all right, Thal

961
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Speaker 3: Thank you for coming on, love you and I will

962
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Speaker 3: see you soon you too, yeah.

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