1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: I didn't John, You fell in love with Duke because 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: of Bobby Early. You you were a white Republican, your 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: old body, bro. 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: Bro. 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 3: I wish you could see like my my like kick 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 3: kick pictures as a kid too, like the sweaters that 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 3: I used to wear in those pictures, Bro, with the 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 3: fucking you. You ain't too far off, man. I wasn't 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: supposed to be a fuck nigger if it wasn't for 10 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 3: the Lord. 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 4: Jesus. Sorry the nigga, you feel me, Tyler said. 12 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 5: Tyler said, Michael Jordan might have lost John as a 13 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 5: fan if he had come out against Jesse Helms. 14 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: Bro Bro, I was the first shut up and dribble ever. 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 6: Dam at the party, at the mcburn party, Chill him 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 6: with your shot him Selene's home at the mcmurn party, 17 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 6: chilling with your Sean, chilling at the Bird party, chilling 18 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 6: with your Shan. 19 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: The missin zone. 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 7: You should have seen it. 21 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 4: You should have seen it, nigga. 22 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 6: I mean it at the Bird party. 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 8: You should have seen it. 24 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 6: When it's on over, you gotta repeat it. You know 25 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 6: my name. 26 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 4: I ain't gotta repeat. 27 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 6: It to me, and I don't need it feel like 28 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 6: my check's and not telling it to beat it. 29 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 7: Ain't got no money. 30 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 6: The niggas to see it ring and running up some 31 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 6: of that, y'all. 32 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 3: Y'allucci man, y'all talking about college and ship man, did 33 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: you did you? 34 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 4: Okay? Okay? 35 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: When it came to being the CD guy, Mike, do 36 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: you think even if your parents were paying attention, do 37 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 3: you think they'd even fucking know what the fuck was 38 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: going on? 39 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: They would have been excited about it. 40 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 5: My dad was like, I mean, my dad wasn't he 41 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 5: wasn't living with us at the time. 42 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: But my mom, my mom now thinks. 43 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 5: The ship is hilarious because I had a whole racket, 44 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 5: Like I would ask my grandma to buy me Blake 45 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 5: CDs and I would tell her I needed them for homework. 46 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 5: So then I, oh, so I would and she and 47 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 5: you know, she didn't even knowing what the fuck would you. 48 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like fifteen bucks for fifty of them or. 49 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 9: Something, so yeah, well yeah, And so I'd come home 50 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 9: from grandma was with like a fifty spindle of like 51 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 9: radio Shack CDs or whatever, and I would sell them 52 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 9: in like a week, you know what I mean, like 53 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 9: five bucks a pop. 54 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: I mean that was that was genuine money. 55 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 4: You might gonna pay rent back then, motherfucking. 56 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 5: Now, listen, that's the only thing my If my mom 57 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 5: had known how much money I was making off of it, 58 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 5: it definitely would not have been going into my gas tank. 59 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 2: I spent all my money on fucking gas. Bro. 60 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 5: It was just like because we were just in the 61 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 5: car all the time, you know what I mean, Like, I. 62 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: Don't want to be a home my friends. 63 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 5: We couldn't go to their houses, so you just get 64 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 5: in the ninety two Honda Accord and just drive around 65 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 5: Long Beach for three hours or whatever, bro. 66 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 4: Like, but do like, Okay, what was this? This was 67 00:02:59,400 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 4: high school? Right? 68 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: Yes? 69 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 4: For me, gas was. 70 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: Like and dude, I'm gonna sound so fucking old, but 71 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 3: I was in Alabama too, so things were much cheaper there. 72 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: But gas was like sixty seven cents or some shit 73 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 3: in high school. Bro, Like, I could fill my tank 74 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 3: up for like probably eight bucks, and I threw like 75 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 3: a four tourist or some shit thirteen dollars. I think 76 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: was like when it was getting higher when I was 77 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 3: in college. 78 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 5: Gas has never been that cheap in California, like in 79 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 5: my lifetime. 80 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: Sixty seven cents, I sound like the motherfucker was Like 81 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: I used to run down to the store and get 82 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: a Snicker's for a nickel, you know. 83 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 5: Okay, last time in California the year average gas price 84 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 5: was under seventy cents was in nineteen seventy eight. 85 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 6: Bro. 86 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: Yeah Alabama, Bro, Huntsville, Alabama. That shit was, Dude, when 87 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: it got to one seventy nine, What the fuck? 88 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: How can we rid that? 89 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: Dog? 90 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 3: Like I had a in college. I had a two 91 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: bedroom spot. It was pretty nice too, considering like it's 92 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: it's like my junior year, maybe my first senior year. 93 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 5: You had a multiple bedroom place in college with I 94 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 5: mean with roommates. 95 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 3: I soon okay, okay, when I okay, when when when 96 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: I was first two years it was two it was 97 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: three roommates, you know, like the first three years I 98 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: had three roommates and we had like a common area 99 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 3: with like couches all that ship. But you had your 100 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 3: own bedroom in college. So I moved out and got 101 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 3: my own apartment. Yeah yeah, yeah, we had a common area, 102 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: four separate bedrooms. 103 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 4: All that shit. Dog, you know what I'm saying. 104 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 5: And shar was at U c l A with three 105 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 5: people in one fucking room. Bro, Bro, like no and 106 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 5: no other room, just a bunk bed on one side 107 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 5: of the room and a bed on the other side 108 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 5: of the road. 109 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: She probably cost as much as your tuition too. 110 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 4: Bro. Oh for show, Oh for show. I mean you 111 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 4: get a U c l A degree, you know what 112 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 113 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 2: Like, but I guess, bro. 114 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 3: But uh, then I moved out of an apartment, and I 115 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: remember I had a two bedroom apartment. The ship was 116 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: like it was like two bed apartment, like, I mean, 117 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 3: it was nice, ride a little balcony I walked on 118 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: I don't know shit everything and it was like five 119 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: five oh five or some shit, Like it's the nicest, 120 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 3: nice little we was. I mean, I will say that, 121 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: like I would wake up and see like the trash 122 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: can was was lit on fire. 123 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 4: But inside the house was nice, you know what I'm saying, Like, 124 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. 125 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 3: But it was a lot of college students and we 126 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: was doing crazy shit, you know that was staying in 127 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: those particular particular apartment complets. 128 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 2: But I mean, right. 129 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 5: Now, if you were to enroll at UCLA as a 130 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 5: freshman to stay in the dorms in one of those triples, 131 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 5: it would cost you sixteen thousand dollars for the school year. 132 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no. 133 00:05:58,440 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like there's gonna be a 134 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: fucking I feel like a college bubble is gonna fucking 135 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: bust the totally like an upcoming generation. 136 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 2: Man. 137 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: I feel like it's gonna be like fucking fucking sixty 138 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: thousand a semester and people are just gonna be like, 139 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: fuck that ship. 140 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: I knew it. 141 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: I dude, I went to school, got a degree, all 142 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: that ship, and I still see the motherfucker that went 143 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 3: to work at PEPSI driving a much nicer car. You 144 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 3: know this, This was what I was like in I 145 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 3: Saint Louis had a nicer car, making more money. 146 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It had no fucking debt, 147 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And like or the nigga. 148 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: Coming back from the army, it is fucking challenger, and 149 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: I'm like trying to figure it out. Like I'm like, bro, man, 150 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, college for certain people, the money 151 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: makes sense. You know, you're gonna make that back. Like 152 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: my sister's a doctor, of course, please go to it. 153 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, you know, and she's gonna make it back too, 154 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like I was a business 155 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 3: major bro finance, you know what I mean, Like if 156 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 3: I if I and I was a finance major, that 157 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 3: knew I wasn't gonna be in finance afterwards, Like you 158 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like. 159 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 4: I numbers were easy. My parents were accountants, you know 160 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 4: what I mean, So that was you know what I mean. 161 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 3: But like it wasn't like I was going to go 162 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: in I knew I fucking would hate that shit, you 163 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 164 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 5: I know that I got an English literature degree with 165 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 5: a philosophy minor, which you literally could not get a 166 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 5: less valuable degree than that if you if you fucking 167 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 5: tried to bro. But and I haven't needed that degree 168 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 5: for fucking anything now, everyone I met, that is why 169 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 5: I have the job I have. 170 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: I met in college. 171 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 4: Yes, you know, at the newspapers, so it's all good. 172 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 5: But yeah, the only reason I could afford to like 173 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 5: have a job that I liked for the first four 174 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 5: or five years out of college is because I didn't. 175 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: Have any debt. 176 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 5: Like my mom was making like less than twenty thousand 177 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 5: dollars a year when I was in high school. So 178 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 5: FASA basically gave me full ride, and then I got 179 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 5: a full ride off of writing scholarship too, so they 180 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 5: sent me the faster money is cash. So I was 181 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 5: getting paid like three or four grand a year to 182 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 5: go to college. 183 00:07:58,840 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 4: Was a come up. 184 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, hell yeah, And so you know, and I went 185 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 5: to Long Beach State. It was cheap as hell, was 186 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 5: like nine hundred dollars a semester. 187 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: When I started. I stayed at home. 188 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 5: Mom helped raised my little brother. So like, I came 189 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 5: out of college ahead. But yeah, I mean most of 190 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,679 Speaker 5: our friends, I mean, like Arne wouldn't own a house, 191 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 5: you know what I mean If I just came out 192 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 5: of college two thousand and debt, and I would never 193 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 5: have been able to try being a writer because the 194 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 5: fucking bill would have been due like three months later. 195 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 4: Right right. 196 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 5: I mean, you can sit Vincent down the next time 197 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 5: you come down here, John and ask him and he'll 198 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 5: tell you, like, Mom and Dad are gonna have something 199 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 5: for me to go to college, and the rest of 200 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 5: it is either I'm gonna earn a scholarship at something 201 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 5: or I'm going to a school we can afford. 202 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 4: Like yeah, I mean. 203 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 5: I graduated with dollars with a liberal arts degree of 204 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 5: fifty thousand dollars a debt, you know what I mean? 205 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: Like that's child bro. 206 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: Out, the only one out of my crew that went 207 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: to college. And I come home with my niggas, got 208 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: lexuses and Cadillac, right, we going to the club and 209 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: my dog's buying bottles and I just got enough money 210 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: for two beers that I rationed down. You know what 211 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, I did. I had the time I fucking 212 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: life in college, but that shit definitely felt like a 213 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: skin when I came back home and saw all my 214 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: homies balling because they were out here to work. 215 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 3: And the thing is also too, like you get a 216 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 3: when I had the job I got, you know what 217 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: I'm saying out of college was not a job that 218 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 3: was gonna like anywhere close. It wasn't allow me to 219 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 3: pay for the loans I had, you know what I'm saying. 220 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: And shit like I think I was getting paid like 221 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: first job out of college, like twenty six k, bro 222 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: like after taxing shit, you know what I'm saying. So like, 223 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: and you know I saw my first bill. 224 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 4: I'm like, what the fuck did I go to school 225 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 4: for it? 226 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: Bro? 227 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 4: Like, I feel like I'm losing money using this degree. 228 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 3: Nigga, Like I literally dead ass was like, Yo, I'm 229 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 3: moving to them in Bermuda Triangle and gonna sell weed. 230 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 3: And I was dead ass serious by that shit. I'm 231 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 3: glad I didn't because that shit is dangerous. I saw 232 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: a documenting on that shit, you know. 233 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 4: What I'm saying. 234 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 3: But like, I was dead ass serious by the researching 235 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 3: and everything. And I remember like a lawyer friends saying like, bro, 236 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: the shit's never gonna go legal. 237 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 4: You never make money off the shit and all that shit. 238 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 3: And now he actually hit me up an apoloize, like, man, 239 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but I was like, bro, I probably would 240 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: have got a fucking caught a case or some shit 241 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: or some dumb shit, but like I dead ass was 242 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 3: researching them, like there's no way I can make money 243 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: off of this, bro, you know what I'm saying. And 244 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: then I was in a situation where like my parents 245 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 3: made good, good money, but it wasn't enough money to 246 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 3: pay for me to school. 247 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 4: I paid for school myself, you know what I'm saying. 248 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 4: But they made too much money. 249 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, in that middle class. Yeah, that's what was too. 250 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 5: It's like your parents don't make enough money to pay 251 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 5: for you to go to UCLA. 252 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 3: But you don't get relationship money either though, right, yeah, exactly. 253 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 5: Congratulations you're valedictorian. You're gonna get some scholarship money. But 254 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 5: that shit costs sixty thousand dollars. Bro, So if you 255 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 5: get ten thousand dollars of scholarship money, congratulations, you get 256 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 5: to graduate with fifty thousand dollars bead right right now? 257 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 3: You you you got to decide to jump in a 258 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: hole or not, you know what I'm saying. And yeah, 259 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 3: but Bro, I'm still paying for that shit. 260 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: Fuck? Is this the drop out of school episode of 261 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 2: fuck this is? 262 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 4: But what's crazy? What is really wild, though, Bro, is 263 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 4: like the ship. 264 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: That I'm that I you know, am doing now is the. 265 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: Ship that I always wanted to do. 266 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 3: And I don't know if I necessarily like I needed 267 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: a a degree to do this, but I do think 268 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 3: i'll benefit. 269 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 4: Ye, I needed Twitter, right, but it wasn't around. But 270 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 4: it wasn't around, you know what I'm saying. 271 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 3: So like like what the and like the all the 272 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: all these things that I do, I'm like, you know, 273 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: I do use creatively, like the like the Adobe. 274 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 4: Sweet I taught myself that ship, you know what I'm saying. 275 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 4: For the most part. 276 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: I went to ad school for like in Atlanta, for 277 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 3: what like a semester and like two and a half 278 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 3: semesters or some ship. 279 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like already, I mean that 280 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 4: that didn't. 281 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 3: Really It taught me how to be more creative and 282 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 3: how to push myself, but I mean, I don't know 283 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 3: if I use that as much now when I'm approaching 284 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 3: what I'm doing now. 285 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 5: So like I've told you guys this, I mean, I'm 286 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 5: I'm happy to be uh have a nice career as 287 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 5: a journalist in this city of Long Beach, and I 288 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 5: have some nice awards from like statewide newspaper associations all 289 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 5: this other shit, But like I have not taken one 290 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 5: journalism class ever in my fucking life, you know what 291 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 5: I mean. 292 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,359 Speaker 4: But you're really good at writing, you know what I'm saying. 293 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 8: Like good? 294 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 5: You know, I was like good at writing, and so 295 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 5: that which is why I was an English Lit major 296 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 5: instead of creative writing major. Because you wrote more when 297 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 5: you were writ like if you were writing essays about books, 298 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 5: you wrote more than they just wanted you to do 299 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 5: one story a semester or whatever if you were a 300 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 5: creative writing major. And I knew I got to get 301 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 5: a shitload of rep stay if I'm trying to do 302 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 5: this for a living. But like, but it's it's that 303 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 5: like sideway ship. Almost everyone I know is that sideway shit. 304 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 5: I think JJ initially tried to go to Long Beach 305 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 5: State for film school and he's now a sports writer. 306 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you know what I mean. 307 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 5: It's just like you just got to get the degree 308 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 5: to open the door or whatever, but no one's even 309 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 5: checked my shit. 310 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 4: I mean, but but but but almost it's like that too. 311 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 3: Like I think the best thing about college was the 312 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 3: networking as far as like the friends I have, you 313 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: know what I mean, and we we helped, we help 314 00:12:59,080 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 3: each other out. 315 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 4: But I don't think of I don't think college has helped. 316 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: Me get a job, you know what I mean, like 317 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 3: any job that I ever gave a fuck about. 318 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 4: It's for really, you know what I'm saying. 319 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 5: This is what my mom said to me because I 320 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 5: was about to drop out of Long Beach State after 321 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 5: my freshman year because I didn't get any classes from 322 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 5: my major. I was bored as fuck and I was 323 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 5: spending all my time. 324 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 2: At UCLA with shar anyway, right, So I was like what. 325 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 5: Am I you know, So anyway, if I wasn't making it, 326 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 5: if they weren't literally paying me, I probably would have 327 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 5: dropped out. 328 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 2: But my mom told me. 329 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 5: She said, she said, college is not for you to 330 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 5: get a degree to show that you're smart. 331 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: It's to show employers that you finished it. 332 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 4: Yes, I mean that's the only reason. I think. 333 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: So that's what she said. 334 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 5: She said, like, if you don't finish it, then it's 335 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 5: like you quit, and that's what you're and then that's 336 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 5: what you're putting out there. 337 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 2: She's like, if you just get the degree, it doesn't 338 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 2: matter what you do with it. 339 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 5: You just can say, hey, I started and finished something 340 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 5: that was hard. 341 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: You can see that I did that. 342 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 3: I set a long term goal and I did it right. 343 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 3: I'm saying, there's something to be said about. 344 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 4: That, But also there is. 345 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 3: And there's more to be said about the debt in 346 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 3: a lot of cases. You know what I'm saying, Like, 347 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 3: it's kind of a scam to a degree, bro. Like, 348 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 3: and I'm saying this. My sister just graduated college and 349 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: I'm superporefore she's going to she's going to med school, 350 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 351 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 4: So that's necessary for. 352 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 5: But yeah, did you guys see that class action lawsuit 353 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 5: that's being filed in California right now? 354 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 4: Huh huh. 355 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 5: Undergrads are suing the University of California and the cal 356 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 5: State University System for their money back, saying, we didn't 357 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 5: pay you to take online classes. We paid you for 358 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 5: a quote the college experience, and you're not able to 359 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 5: deliver that ship to us right now, so we want 360 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 5: our money back. 361 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: Yo, I understand it. I definitely understand that, because yeah, 362 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: I mean like. 363 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: Like give you a two thousand dollars facilities fee. 364 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: Right right right, you know what I'm saying, like funk 365 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: out of here, you know, and they gotta cut those 366 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: fees at least man, right, you would think that will 367 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 3: be like the ethical thing. 368 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: To dude, except they still gotta pay everyone. Bro. 369 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 4: Shit ugly, Bro, it's. 370 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: Gonna end it. Bro, It's gonna get ugly. 371 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: Ship man. 372 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 3: Anyway, mant's talk about this motherfucking this conversation took that 373 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: mean left, Damn that motherfucker. 374 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 5: You don't hop down here, and you never have any 375 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 5: idea what Tyler and I are gonna be talking about. 376 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: Do you know? 377 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: I don't think any of us know what we're gonna 378 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 3: be talking about in the podcast. Ever, Bro, Like we 379 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 3: have an idea and it sometimes comes to that, you 380 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, but dude, we take lefts 381 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: all the time, but that left was particularly. 382 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 4: That motherfucker. 383 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 3: Bro, man crazy, what's another one? I can't believe it. 384 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 3: This is how wild or just weird reality sees. 385 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 4: Now. 386 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: I was outside writing, like you know, writing some ship, 387 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 3: like on my porch, and this person, this woman just 388 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: fell asleep. 389 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 4: At the wheel and hit a car. Right. 390 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 3: I forgot until now when I said this conversation took 391 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: a mean left. 392 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 4: I just saw. 393 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: Motherfucker fall asleep hit a motherfucking with less than two 394 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 3: hours ago, and it left my memory. 395 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: What the fuck? 396 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 4: Right? 397 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: Like just now, I was on my porch and I 398 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 3: didn't remember it until like, oh, this conversations could mean 399 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: left down Like, oh shit, I saw wreck like two 400 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 3: hours ago. 401 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: Bro. 402 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: When it happened, it was actually my neighbor's car, which 403 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 3: is my landlords. 404 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 4: He comes out, he goes, fuck, I look at him, 405 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 4: look at her. 406 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: She opens the door and she says, hello, I get up, 407 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: walk right in my fucking door. 408 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: I got you off for that shit. 409 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 3: Hello, Like uh, Uh, this is a twilight zone right here. 410 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 4: I don't want no part of that shit dog. But anyway, 411 00:16:58,800 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 4: maybe I try to push it up. 412 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 3: I'm anyway, let's talk about the motherfucking last dance we 413 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: go there to do some pod doesn't matter. 414 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 2: What where is this podcast being posted? 415 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 4: Where do y'all think? 416 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 5: Is it? 417 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 4: Is it? Is it? 418 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 3: I guess we should throw something up free because we 419 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 3: haven't done that a couple of weeks. 420 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 7: M let she said her class. 421 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 8: Yes, I said, I know. Look, I got set up 422 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 8: point where I hadn't. He started a candidate all of 423 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 8: my blessing. She's saying, buddy, I gotta suggestion. 424 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 7: That's all her know. Okay, she's saying, buggy, right, that's 425 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 7: a cool sweater. I really like how you put that together. 426 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 4: That's what. 427 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 6: Yeah. 428 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 8: I'm not even dressed. Yeah, I'm not even flex Yeah 429 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 8: I had stressed. 430 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: They just chang. 431 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 6: It's like chang. 432 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not even bess. I'm not even perplexing. 433 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 2: No, I stressful. 434 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 6: I got that? 435 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: Is it? 436 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: The bird? Is it? 437 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 7: The plane? 438 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: You know what? 439 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 8: I get that, nigga? The I money just how it 440 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 8: was still gotta kirk and go get it. Dug butt 441 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 8: myself feeling fantastic. So inside, shorty, I look like a bachelor. 442 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 8: That's how adoring social on door spectacular scholarship. 443 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 7: Nigga is semi vanac. 444 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 8: You mean back on niggas like a photto pink roller, 445 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 8: or it's like a boy not in your figure. There's 446 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 8: like a photo pretty niggad snipper boys koldo normal my 447 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 8: doggy like Toto, I und a door and peep I 448 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 8: don't got a door and sneak. I don't got a 449 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 8: door and creep on. She said your blast. 450 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 7: Yes, I said, I know. 451 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 8: Look I got to the point where I hadn't started 452 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 8: a cannon and all of my blessing. She's saying, Buggy, 453 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 8: I got a suggestion, that's all her. No, okay, she's saying, 454 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 8: that's a cool sweater. 455 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 7: I really like how you put that togetter. That's other young. 456 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 8: I'm not even stressed, young, I'm not even fess John 457 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 8: asked that stressing. 458 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: Welcome Back Jenkins. 459 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 5: And Jones Freebie edition on the sound clouds uh hoasted 460 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 5: by my friends Dragonfly Jones aka Tyler Oh yeah, Dragonfly Jones, 461 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 5: who just moments ago told everyone to drop out of 462 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 5: school with drug. 463 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: Le Jethro Jenkins aka John What's up John? He he. 464 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 4: So I come down to hit it with the ship? 465 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 4: Go ahead, Magic? That was what he hit him with, Tyler. 466 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: We say he definitely was a heat Heat passed any 467 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: point on heavy heat heat with the looks magic. 468 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 3: There is no other way to describe that is he 469 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: with the he And what I love is we would 470 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: have said the same ship Magic came down and hit. 471 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: It with that. 472 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying like that that was so 473 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 4: relatable anyway, go ahead. 474 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 5: I'm just like, can you imagine you're trying to guard 475 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 5: Magic and then he throws the ball some and you're like, wait, 476 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 5: what did he just do? 477 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: And then he says he he as you're turning around 478 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: to get dunked. 479 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 4: On right, But yo, like it makes sense that's what 480 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 4: he hit you with, Like what did he do? 481 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 2: Oh? 482 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was that he he Like that makes sense. 483 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 4: That's how you described that ship he did, Bro. 484 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 3: And what what I also love is too, he was 485 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 3: so natural and you could tell how much he just 486 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 3: enjoys basketball, you. 487 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 4: Know what I mean? Like that like that's that it was? 488 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 4: It was so it was beautiful. I loved it. That 489 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 4: little key heat it been a lot. 490 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: It meant a whole lot. 491 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 5: I thought those two episodes, I thought, yourself, Oh, I 492 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 5: said to Mike, what's up on Mike? 493 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 4: Did you? Yes? Okay, so. 494 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 2: You were You've already moved into the he he is. 495 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 4: But I believe, well, now we know you introduced yourself. 496 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 5: Yes, it's guaranteed at this point, I thought those were 497 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 5: the best two Miles said. He told us offline after 498 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 5: the second episode we recorded with him that he thought 499 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 5: that the first four were the weakest of the whole ten. 500 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 5: And I definitely thought episodes five and six were fucking humming. 501 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 10: Bro. 502 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: They covered so much ground in that fifth episode it 503 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 2: was crazy. 504 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the biggest bombshell for me probably is 505 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: MJ actually confirming that he said the Republicans buy sneakers, 506 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: because you know, we always kind of you know, you know, 507 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: that was dropped in the Jordan rule Book, and we 508 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: always kind of knew that was a book with a 509 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: lot of unauthorized sources kind of pick and choose what 510 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: you believe, but we kind of always knew that it 511 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: did kind of mesh with if you look at MJ's 512 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: actions and such, that that is a quote that you 513 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: could have seen MJ saying but for him to come 514 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: out and say, yeah, I said it, that was like 515 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: an eyebrow reason for me, Like, oh shit, okay. 516 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: So what did you What did you guys think of 517 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: him saying that? And uh and of his explanation about it. 518 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: I've got mixed emotions on that. I feel like, I 519 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 1: feel like Jesse Helms was such a fucking terrible man, right, 520 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: he was such not a bashed big And this is 521 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: a man that opposed the Voting Rights Act when it 522 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: first went through ratification in the sixties, opposed it again 523 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: when it came back in the in the eighties. A 524 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: man who who pushed against mlk's holiday, a man who 525 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: who didn't want to who voted against funding HIV and 526 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: AIDS research because he believed there was a disease that 527 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: was born about by the abomination of homosexuality. Like he 528 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: this was a softball for m J to say, fuck 529 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: that guy on, you know what I mean? 530 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 5: So this is not like and I'll be honest with you, 531 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 5: I knew I'd obviously heard the line, but I didn't 532 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 5: know that it was a race against Jesse Helms. 533 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 2: Bro Yeah, I did not know that, Like, this is 534 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: a dude who you mentioned like, this is not like 535 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: John McCain like I was. 536 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: This is Donald Trump, bro, this. 537 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 2: Is a dude who like ten years ago was saying 538 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: that gay people cost nine to eleven. 539 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, like I said, 540 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: that was a softball frame Jenna say fuck that guy. 541 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: But I mean, I mean, I think Jordan was a 542 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: dude who wanted to be all things to everybody, right. 543 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: He didn't want to offend any fucking body. So you 544 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: know that that definitely aligns with with with with who 545 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: he was by him not you know, saying, you know, 546 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm against Jesse Hilmes, but he did, you know, donate 547 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: to to the the guy who was running against him, 548 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,719 Speaker 1: you know, kind of behind the scenes there, But that's 549 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: kind of what MJ does. He kind of speaks with 550 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: his money behind the scenes more than he'll make a 551 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: public statement. You know, that's his fucking thing. 552 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 4: I guess, I mean, I felt like I get why 553 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 4: he was, like, dude, there was a joke. 554 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 3: The phrase isn't the problem as much because he was 555 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 3: saying that shit like in the fucking bus with homies. 556 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 2: With his friends. 557 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The actions following it are the problem, you. 558 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 5: Know, like God for yes, because that's a fair point, 559 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 5: Like God forbid Sam Smith was ever listening to our 560 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 5: group chat. 561 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. 562 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 11: That's the difference between pro sports and most professions, right 563 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 11: that you're around people who are listening for ship like 564 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 11: that to put out, and people joke about it all 565 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 11: the time with the coaches who cover their mouth when 566 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 11: they're talking to their players and stuff. 567 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 5: Right, But like, genuinely you could take a lot of 568 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 5: things out of context among friends or pro athletes or 569 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 5: whatever that. 570 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 2: Would make them look like horrible fucking people. So I 571 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 2: definitely recognize that. 572 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 4: But also his. 573 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: Actions, like if he were to actually support that goes 574 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 3: way further than his money. 575 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 4: When you're Michael fucking Jordan in that time period. 576 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, You're talking about an election 577 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 2: in North Carolina. 578 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 4: Yes, I like. 579 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: He's got experience knowing how terrible jokes he first hand, 580 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But but yeah, you know, 581 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: like I said, I think wanted to be all things 582 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: to all people. Like there was a time where I 583 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: believe that in the nineties, if m J wanted to 584 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: run for president, he could have been our first black president, 585 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: Like I remember Oprah jokingly, you know, joked with him 586 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: about that, and you know, I was like, he really 587 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: could fucking be our first black president, like emy Will Smith, 588 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: like the only two black dudes I thought could pull 589 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: it off, Like mj was that fucking big and that 590 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: fucking love by everybody. 591 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 4: I thought it was. 592 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 3: Interesting to me was the fact that like how tired 593 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 3: he seemed of being Air Jordan, you know what I'm saying, 594 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 3: Like he just wanted to be Mike. 595 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 4: You feel me, you know what I'm saying. 596 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: He was. 597 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: It seemed like like when he was talking, when he 598 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 3: was sitting back smoking that fucking cigar, and he was like, 599 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 3: I mean you, I mean and we all he came 600 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 3: back in what thirty eight and put up twenty two 601 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 3: or twenty a game for like with the Wizards. You know, 602 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 3: those those years that my children shall not know about. 603 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Jordan's career, you know what 604 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 3: I'm saying. But I mean, dude, it was still crazy. 605 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 3: It came back at thirty eight, four years later and 606 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 3: put an average twenty twenty two something something else. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 607 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 3: So like those two years so you can still play 608 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 3: physically was an issue, you know what I'm saying, But 609 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 3: like can you I mean, like I really wonder, you know, 610 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 3: like we're adults. Being an adult is hard. Is hard enough, right, 611 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 3: like being a humanist difficult. Growing up being a kid, 612 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 3: you doing those shit. Now you have to be an 613 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 3: adult responsible for yourself. There's no fucking handbook for the shit. 614 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 2: Right. 615 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 3: You're really good at basketball, and that's the easy part, right, 616 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 3: Like being Michael Jordan the basketball player is. 617 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 4: The easy part. 618 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 3: But all this shit that comes with it, like even 619 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 3: the the the like every time you meet somebody, you're 620 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 3: not Michael. You're Michael Air Jordan when he's talking to 621 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 3: those kids an hour before every fucking game. 622 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 4: You know, like that's great, right, Like that's beautiful. 623 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 3: But even if you aren't an introvert, like even if you, 624 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 3: I mean, if you are a are built for that shit, 625 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 3: regardless of like what type of human you are. 626 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 4: You know, like humans can be draining, dog, it's gart 627 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 628 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 3: The interaction of human with human actually is draining. But 629 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 3: when you have to be somebody like that is not 630 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 3: natural to self imagine how journey that is all the time. 631 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 3: Every time you leave your fucking house. You know what 632 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 3: I'm saying. Those big crowds, I mean, that's what that's 633 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 3: that's I think that's the the like the like. To 634 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 3: me when watching I was like I never really I think. 635 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 4: About these things, right, Like let me say, like fuck fame. 636 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 4: But to see like him like talk about it was 637 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 4: interested to me. 638 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 5: And you see him talk about it at the time too, right, 639 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 5: And I'm not saying like it would have been one 640 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 5: thing for him to say that now, but seeing him 641 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 5: then was that was really fascinating to me. 642 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And and I thought I thought it was beautifully 643 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: shot with the juxtapositions of him like behind the scenes, 644 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: you know, putting his suit on after the games, talking 645 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: ship with his guys, and then he opens the door 646 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: in fucking fifty photographers, right, you know what I mean? Right, Like, 647 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: I thought that was beautiful shot and hammered home. How 648 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: how you know he was you know, he there was 649 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to say a front he had to 650 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: put on, but he had to. 651 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 4: You have to to an agree, you can you can't 652 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 4: avoid it, you can't avoid it. 653 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that that that there was you know, a 654 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: duality of Mike where he was this guy behind the 655 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: scenes and then he had to be this guy with 656 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: the cameras on. 657 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 3: And imagine, okay, like he was talking about he was 658 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: tired when the media actually slept before social media, before 659 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 3: Twitter all that shit. Now with the twenty four to 660 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 3: seven like content fucking media cycle, like could you imagine, 661 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 3: like I. 662 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 4: Mean, I mean, don't mean to talk about Lebron, Like 663 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 4: the fuck can a human deal. 664 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: Inj would not have been able to deal with with 665 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: this twenty four to seven. Everyone has a camera phone 666 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: society where a fucking clip of him at the casino 667 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: at three in the morning would go viral on Twitter, like. 668 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 3: Him smoking a cigar after a game, drinking a beer 669 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 3: with his homies, witch Bro Nigga a beer after a 670 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 3: physical like anything physical, Like here's this, Nigga played a 671 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: whole ass basketball game, right and he wanted to have 672 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 3: a beer with Pippin and Brown. You know what I'm 673 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 3: saying on some chill ship, right like Nigga, this was 674 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 3: a week where we feel me like Bro, I go 675 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 3: out and fucking modor Lion come back in. You know 676 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, like and I you know what I'm saying, 677 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 3: And that's some like ooh, shiit niggat. 678 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 4: You know, I want a beer, you know what I mean. 679 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 4: But like that right there that's looked up on It's like, 680 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 4: oh my god, he's having a beer after a game, 681 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 4: smoking cigars. Oh God knows he care. 682 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 1: And that was like lightweight controversy because Piples was legit concerned. 683 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 3: Right you see Pippin's face. You see his face dead serious. 684 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 3: They don't want to see his drinking beer, you know 685 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But what you said about the duality 686 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 3: was really interesting. Like when we saw him with Homeboy, 687 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 3: the low key to star of that episode, when he 688 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 3: shrugged off Mike after beating him. 689 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 690 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 3: We saw him, We saw him behind the scenes and 691 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 3: you see that vanilla spice. 692 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 4: Yes, I love that. I wish I could see my 693 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 4: hand on it. A. I love that I did the 694 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 4: little weird arm whip too. I was so excited. It 695 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 4: was just as corny as it sounded. 696 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 3: But but like you know, like seeing him with them 697 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 3: and like interacting and then seeing like you know, like 698 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 3: and it's just super chill and we I mean, and 699 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 3: even with the cameras on what I'm saying, like he 700 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 3: seemed more relaxed, but just who you have to be? 701 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 3: Like I mean, I mean Mike left after a loss 702 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 3: and went to Atlantic City and gambled, right, And I 703 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 3: get why you wanted to get away with his dad. 704 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 3: That's what he liked doing, right, you know what I'm saying. 705 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 3: But like he had to answer that. 706 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 4: For how long? How long was that a thing? You 707 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying? 708 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 3: Like, and he probably didn't have a gambling issue, bro, 709 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 3: fifty seven thousand dollars. It's like me buying a pair 710 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 3: of like reseale off whites, you know what I'm saying. Like, 711 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 3: It's not a whole bunch of money. But I mean 712 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 3: he had seven thousand. That's a gambling problem. 713 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: Bro. 714 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, Nah, he had a gambling problem. Yeah, he had 715 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 5: a gambling problem that he could afford. 716 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: But I definitely, I mean, if you. 717 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 5: Know anything about addiction, I was definitely like kind of 718 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 5: cracking up when he said if I had a gambling problem, 719 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 5: you know, my kids would be starving they were you know, 720 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 5: or like whatever. 721 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: It's like, that's that is not how it works, actually exactly, 722 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: starving for your affection and your approval, right. 723 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,479 Speaker 4: Right, your son haven't seen you in three months, Michael. 724 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, but but like you said, Mike, he definitely had 725 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: a problem that he could afford fifty seven. 726 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 4: But it's still. 727 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: Gain And the line from David Stern was hilarious. He said, 728 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: it's not an epic meltdown crisis problem. He was like, 729 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 2: I recognize it's a problem. 730 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: Was those words, and we got to look at this 731 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: through the lens of ninety sports, where Pete Rose cast 732 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: that big ass shadow that made gambling like the dirtiest word. 733 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 5: That yeah, yeah, I mean still that was the first 734 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 5: thing he said in the interview that they did reach. 735 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 5: The first thing he said was I never bet on games. 736 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 5: It was the first thing he said, right right right, 737 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 5: But you. 738 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 4: Know, but. 739 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 5: I I I. 740 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 4: Get what. 741 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,479 Speaker 3: What was interesting me too was when he said when 742 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 3: he said, I don't have a gambling problem. If anything, 743 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 3: I have a competitive problem. That's a gambling problem that 744 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 3: you know, like you for money, that's the problem. 745 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: He's an alcoholic. 746 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 3: I just love being drunk, right, It's just my favorite 747 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 3: thing all the time, every. 748 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 4: Day, you know what I'm saying. That was like, I mean, but. 749 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 3: He like like like, oh boy said he was good 750 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 3: for it. Fifty seven ks are dropping a bucket to him. 751 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 3: But that's still a lot of money. 752 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 4: In one round of golf. 753 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, like what do we recently he's we said it 754 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 5: on one of the previous podcasts. I'm looking up again, 755 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 5: but like he's still making nine figures and endorsements, bro, 756 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 5: Like the dude couldn't find it sino to lose all 757 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 5: that money too. 758 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: He makes makes more money per year for endorsements that 759 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: he made his whole career. 760 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 2: As yeah, yeah, okay, they said lifetime. 761 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 5: Over four decades, he's made one point seven billion dollars 762 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 5: off endorsements. 763 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 4: Bro, I don't think you could possibly not eat what 764 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 4: can you gamble? Continence? You know what I'm saying? Are you? 765 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 2: Are you killing? 766 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 4: I'll give you this island for that island? 767 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 2: Like? 768 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 4: Is that what the I'm doing? 769 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: Red? 770 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 3: That's past the problem, bro, Like used to be broke 771 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 3: after without making all that money? 772 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 4: The fuck you talking about? 773 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 12: Man? 774 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 13: But yeah, like that was that? 775 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 4: That That was interesting? 776 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:48,959 Speaker 14: Uh? 777 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 4: Definitely, and and and very obvious as well, you know, like. 778 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 5: Yeah for sure, But but to your guys point, I mean, 779 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 5: I think this is something that people really don't understand 780 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 5: and no one wants to feel bad for millionaire athletes 781 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 5: or celebrities, and I understand that like the problems that 782 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 5: they have are problems that they can afford to have 783 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 5: or whatever. Right, But that being said, man, it doesn't 784 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 5: make it easier to not to live when you can't 785 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 5: go outside because like all of the things that we 786 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 5: enjoy doing, he can't do anymore. 787 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: Right, Like, the dude can't ever and for the rest 788 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: of his life walk outside, you know what I mean? 789 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 5: And just like walk down the street and whe whether 790 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 5: you think it's something celebrities should complain about or not, 791 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 5: it does change things and you you should be able 792 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 5: to see why that would be exhausting. I always hated 793 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 5: all the conspiracy theories on you know, why the dude 794 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 5: stepped away from the game or whatever. It's like you 795 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 5: you don't understand how that could be, you know what 796 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 5: I mean, that you would want to not be doing. 797 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 5: I mean, just like, look at his life in that 798 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 5: sequence they shot. You can't see why you wouldn't want 799 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 5: to do that three hundred and sixty five days a year. 800 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 4: All that shit. 801 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 3: Phil Jackson is leaving, there's issues with the ownership issues 802 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 3: with Pippin. I'm tired, bro, and you know you're going 803 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 3: out winning the last right, I'm tired, dog Like, I 804 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 3: get it. 805 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 4: Bro, fucking Crouse was on that weirdo shit. You know 806 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. He was on that jay Z shit. 807 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 808 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: You made a me. 809 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 4: Let's see if you can make another me. Fucking fuck you. 810 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,959 Speaker 4: I'm out of here, you know what I'm saying. 811 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: Like, you know what I mean? 812 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 4: Like dog like, okay, I get that, it's time. 813 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 2: It's time to shake bro, Like okay, okay, what did 814 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 2: you guys think of? 815 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 5: I get the feeling that if Jerry Krouse had told 816 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 5: Michael Jordan his wife looked good, he would have filed 817 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 5: for divorce. 818 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 13: That fucking night brow that dude had that he was like, well, 819 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 13: you know I had to kill Dan because Jerry thought 820 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 13: he was a good player. 821 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: It's just like, oh my bro, and I'm sure and 822 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure Jerry. All Jerry said was yo, Marley could 823 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: play because he's a two guard in the market for 824 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: too guard. Right, Like he probably said some benign ship 825 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: that drove over the edge you madehi kill Well, I mean. 826 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 5: Dude, that's the funniest ship is like it starts out 827 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 5: being understandable, right, You're like, well, yeah, I can see 828 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 5: how if you win three championships and this dude's saying 829 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 5: it's an organization, I can see how you resent him. 830 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: And then it's like the Tony Kukoch story, right. 831 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 4: All was co coach and that doing Olympic So was 832 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 4: he like nineteen or kid? 833 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I can see that, right, Like Scotty Pippen's 834 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 2: your boy. 835 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 5: You've been trying to sort of raise the self esteem 836 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,479 Speaker 5: and turn him into a fighter, like and then you see, Okay, 837 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 5: they're gonna give this guy more morey than Scotty. 838 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 2: I can see that. But what did Dan Marley do? 839 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 4: Bro? Fuck that nigga forever. But what was interesting too, 840 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 4: and I actually believe this is. 841 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 3: When they talked about Jordan, Jordan not being the reason 842 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 3: that that Isaiah wasn't He's like, you know, he said 843 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 3: it wasn't me. 844 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 4: And when he said it wasn't me, it sounds like 845 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 4: you said it wasn't just me, you know what I mean? 846 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 4: And it made sense, Bro, you know what I'm saying. 847 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 3: Didn't him and him the Magic have this issue? You know, 848 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 3: nobody fucking liked I say, you know what I'm saying. 849 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,399 Speaker 3: And in the interview, afterwards when Chuck was talking, Chuck 850 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 3: was like, the best part about it was the camaraderie. 851 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 3: And if you and you know, like one motherfucker that 852 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 3: like you know, like that, that even if it's eleven motherfuckers, 853 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 3: you love that one motherfucker that's there all the time 854 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 3: that you really ain't fucking with, can change the whole. 855 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 4: Vie, bro, you know what I'm saying. Like, you know 856 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. 857 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,240 Speaker 3: You always you know those games like the interactions between 858 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 3: Bird and magic Man. 859 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 2: You don't want to. 860 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 4: There's no you know what I mean, there's no you 861 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 4: better get him back car. You know what I mean that, 862 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. It's more like side can 863 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 4: get this mother. You know what I'm saying. Like, so 864 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 4: I understand. 865 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 3: And Isaiah knew it too, I say, I said, you 866 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 3: know I and we talk and we talk about this 867 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 3: all the time. He comes to hone people. I think 868 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 3: we've even said it on here. You hire people you like. 869 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Yes, you want the resume 870 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 3: has to be a particular play way, but you hire 871 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 3: people you like. 872 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 4: And that team was really good and John Stalton was it. 873 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Johnson is not. 874 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 3: Isaiah is better than John Sucker obviously, right, but John 875 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 3: Stockton is not. You know, like you're gonna He's not 876 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 3: bad enough to ruin your fucking you know that they're 877 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 3: still gonna beat blow people out by fucking thirty and flo. 878 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 2: You got you got m J Chuck and Magic on 879 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 2: the team. You do whatever the fuck else you want 880 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 2: to do with yay right right at that time. So 881 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 2: so you already won the games. 882 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 5: You're not trying to add people, like, of course, you're 883 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 5: trying to put a chemistry roster together. No one's ever 884 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 5: done this shit before. And this was in an era 885 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 5: when these dudes genuinely some of them hated each other. 886 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 5: So you so the whole thing was the chemistry construction. 887 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 5: So I mean, in my opinion, if the say Magic 888 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 5: and Michael Jordan had hated anybody, I don't think anybody 889 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 5: would have been on the roster if those two dudes 890 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 5: hated that person, right Like, if they said, we're not playing, 891 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 5: if Larry's playing, we're not playing, if Charles Barkley's playing, like, 892 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 5: no one would have overcome that in the eyes of 893 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 5: USA basketball, because they needed those dudes to be on 894 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,959 Speaker 5: the team like they needed that more than anything else. 895 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 3: What's interesting about this stuff too is like you know, 896 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 3: like Chuck's so beloved now. I do remember like hating 897 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 3: Chuck as a kid a lot because of like how 898 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 3: he was deemed to be And I was an MJ fan, 899 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, And it's just so interesting 900 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 3: seeing how like being a Jordan fan, like you kind 901 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,720 Speaker 3: of didn't fuck with Chuck, but how Chuck and Jordan 902 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:51,720 Speaker 3: fucked with each other. 903 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 4: Right, you know what I'm saying. And it also. 904 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: I love Chuck because he didn't give a fuck when. 905 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 3: You're a different time of the fucking you're, did you, Tyler, 906 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 3: You're a different type of human. 907 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 4: No no, no, no no. 908 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 5: But I'm with that because I was too, and that 909 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 5: was my mom and dad. Fuck with Charles Barkley because 910 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 5: of all model ship, Bro, you know what I mean? 911 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 4: I didn't. 912 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:12,439 Speaker 2: I didn't. 913 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: John you fell in love with Duke because of Bobby 914 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 1: Early you You were a white Republican body, bro. 915 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 3: Bro, I wish you could see like my my like 916 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 3: kick Kick pictures as a kid too, like the sweaters 917 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 3: that I used to wear in those pictures, Bro, with 918 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 3: the fucking you you ain't too far off, man, I 919 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 3: was supposed to be a fuck nigga if it. 920 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 4: Wasn't for the Lord Jesus sorry the nigga, you feel me, 921 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 4: Tyler said. 922 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 5: Tyler said, Michael Jordan might have lost John as a 923 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,879 Speaker 5: fan if he had come out against Jesse helms bro. 924 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 2: Bro. 925 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 4: I was. 926 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,240 Speaker 1: The first shut up and dribble ever. 927 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 4: Nig and that's like eight years old, but just shut 928 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 4: up and dripple. But but anyway, but yeah, yeah, like 929 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 4: I did not fuck with Chuck, you know what I'm saying. 930 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 3: I felt like Mike represented something that Chuck represented the opposite, 931 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But as an adult, you know, 932 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 3: like that's what I've become, is more, I probably would 933 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 3: have related more to more than Chuck. But yeah, but 934 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 3: it's interesting seeing like the fans talking about Chuck, like 935 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 3: hating him, like you know what I'm saying, and like 936 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 3: it was Mike and Chuck were probably they were very 937 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 3: similar in how they like to move, you know what 938 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 3: I'm saying, But one was presented a particular way, you feel. 939 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 5: Me, right, One was choosing to make an additional nine 940 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 5: figures a year off of a certain image. 941 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 2: What did you guys. 942 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 5: Think of the little snapshot history they gave of his 943 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 5: relationship with Nike. 944 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: I don't you know. The thing is you find out 945 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: how close these things were to not happening. Like j 946 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: wasn't fucking with Nike until his mom told him to, 947 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: you know, hear him out, and you know what I mean? 948 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 4: And why would he fuck with Nike too? At that 949 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 4: point too? They weren't ship you know what I'm saying. 950 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 4: I mean they would I mean Prefontaine is what we 951 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 4: knew Nike from? Like is that is that correct? Like 952 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 4: like the fucking like just running shoes. 953 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 2: Right, like they were basically just the track shot that time. 954 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, So like you know, I don't even know if 955 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 3: we I don't remember, I don't know what we've seen 956 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 3: as far as basketball shoes. 957 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 4: But why would he want to fuck with them? You 958 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:34,919 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying? 959 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 3: Like they weren't the guys yet and he was the guy, 960 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? So I thank god he 961 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 3: didn't signed with fucking Adidas or like Converse because he 962 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 3: wouldn't even had his own shoe, you know what I'm saying, Like. 963 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 5: The Adidas people have to be hurt, bro, Like I 964 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 5: k I knew that about Converse, that they were the 965 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 5: NBA shoe and then they sort of like lost their grip. 966 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 2: On it and everything. 967 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 5: But to hear him say, now, million dollars later, I 968 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 5: wanted to sign with Adidas and they literally told my agent, 969 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 5: we can't make him a shoe. 970 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 4: But but but the thing is too, bro, and we 971 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 4: ship on them too. 972 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 3: When it comes to like, I know, Tyler you tweeted 973 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 3: about how they lost with bron As as well. 974 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: But Bro, the at the hand and the numbers, right, 975 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: and he said, y'all did when it left. 976 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 4: But this is the thing. No, this is the thing though, 977 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 4: Oh my god, what the fuck? What they're gonna do? Bro? 978 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 4: You saw what they did with Kobe's shoes. 979 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 3: They they do not when it comes to like performance 980 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 3: ship dog. Ain't nobody wearing no motherfucking Adidas on the court, Nigga? 981 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 4: They were then, but they were then they not not 982 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 4: with not with with with Kobe? Was you niggas was 983 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 4: walking with Adidas? No? 984 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, I'm saying when Michael Jordan 985 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 2: was was trying to sign his deal court, what ain't I. 986 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,399 Speaker 4: Don't remember they said they could make him a shoe, right. 987 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 2: Right, because they were falling apart. 988 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 5: No, they say they could signature shoe line because the 989 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 5: whole organization was falling apart. 990 00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 4: But that's what I'm saying. 991 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 2: But I'm had they known. 992 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 5: I'm trying to remember what the exact numbers they said were. 993 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 5: Did they tell his agent they wanted to do three 994 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 5: hundred thousand sales? And they did one hundred and twenty 995 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 5: six million? I believe so he just could find some 996 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 5: people to design a fucking shoe I was. 997 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 3: I will say this, Bro, I will say this, Bro. 998 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 3: I don't think Bron makes the money he makes. What 999 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 3: I mean, well, I don't think the shoes are as 1000 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,959 Speaker 3: popular without Nike. Uh, whether with Bron or with Jordan, 1001 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,280 Speaker 3: I don't think they. I don't think Jordan changes cultures, 1002 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 3: changed the cultures signing with either of them either. So 1003 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 3: I don't think it's thats profitable. I think he had, 1004 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 3: I mean he had, he had tinkered with him all 1005 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 3: that shit. All that made a big difference, doob you 1006 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying? Like, And also that air bubble 1007 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 3: looked fire as fuck, that exposed air bubble, That shit 1008 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 3: was flamed, Nigga, that he ain't getting no air bubbles 1009 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,359 Speaker 3: fucking with Adidas, stuff them. 1010 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 4: Them motherfucking even when I was in high school. 1011 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like like this is like 1012 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 3: fucking fifty almost almost fifty years after Jordan, towards the 1013 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 3: end of George's career. You know what I'm saying, Like 1014 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 3: it's his second retirement, you know what I I mean? 1015 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 3: Like those fucking Adidas were still fucking trash. Do you 1016 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying after they found some designers, Nigga, 1017 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 3: they just don't know how. They just ain't got it 1018 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 3: when it comes to that ship, Bro, stay with the 1019 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 3: classic Castle ship Dog. You know what I'm saying, Like 1020 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,760 Speaker 3: Jordan's there aren't Jordan's without Nike. Bro and Lebron shoes 1021 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 3: are I don't think they are as profitable, you know 1022 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, unless unless it's Nike. 1023 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 4: They're just good at that performance ship Bro. 1024 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like Jordan, Lebron, Adidas, how 1025 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 3: many if Lebron was was with the Didas, how many 1026 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:30,399 Speaker 3: Lebrons would you own? 1027 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,240 Speaker 4: Tyler Zero. 1028 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: The most popular player in the league, and nobody gave 1029 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: a about. 1030 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 3: His atas and the crazy ages, the crazy at with 1031 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 3: the craziest with the best shoes he had, and those 1032 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 3: are still mid The only reason they're cool is because 1033 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 3: of Kobe, have nothing to do with the design, you 1034 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,439 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying of the time period in which 1035 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 3: he wore them. You know what I'm saying, that's it 1036 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 3: like like that and that's to me, it's more interesting 1037 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 3: about how because that affected the culture in a particular way, 1038 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, Like our niggas, you know, 1039 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,959 Speaker 3: like I don't, I don't. 1040 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 4: I'm wondering, like what what are how does everybody dress? 1041 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:06,320 Speaker 3: Like? 1042 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 4: What are the things we're into? Like you know what 1043 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 4: I'm saying, like. 1044 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: Turn sneakers into fashion, like the we are the first 1045 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,320 Speaker 1: generation to wear sneakers as fashion and then not just 1046 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, for performance athletics, and we. 1047 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 4: Still will wear the motherfuckers to the club. I see 1048 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 4: people my age with the Jordan's on watching the fucking games. 1049 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 2: Bro. 1050 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 3: I watched my watching last dance putting it short. You know, 1051 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 3: you know, I had to dress appropriately. We we almost 1052 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 3: damn their forty niggas and that's I know, fortyes wearing 1053 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 3: George And I'm gonna be honest, bro, if I can't 1054 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:36,720 Speaker 3: wear Jordan's to the spot. 1055 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 4: I don't want to go, and I don't even wear 1056 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 4: Jordan's like that, I'll be I don't wear I wear 1057 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 4: more air Max. You know what I'm saying. 1058 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 3: If I'm being a buck, but like if if if 1059 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 3: sneakers are not allowed in a venue, don't show I'm 1060 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 3: not showing. 1061 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 4: Up, you know what I'm saying. 1062 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: But but I wearing hard bottoms. 1063 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 3: I wish that Nigga would want me and some motherfucking 1064 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 3: brunch pointy toe ass shits. Ain't no motherfucking way. Like 1065 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 3: I said a long time ago, my toes always on 1066 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,879 Speaker 3: the ground. You ain't gonna never sit you with them, 1067 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 3: curly your pass ships you feel me? 1068 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 4: Ever, But I mean changed. 1069 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm not wearing no church shoes to listen to. 1070 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 15: The Recovered to Be back in ninety two might have, 1071 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 15: but not this John my god, you know what I'm saying. 1072 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 4: But yo, man, Like you know, how does that change 1073 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 4: culture too? Like that's more interesting to me. 1074 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 5: But I think I think one of the things that 1075 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 5: was sort of perfect about the timing was Nike was 1076 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 5: still a clean slate and so they've had success in 1077 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 5: the track world. But unlike if he'd have been with 1078 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 5: Adidas or Converse, like it felt like the start of 1079 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 5: something completely new, right like, and Nike and Michael Jordan 1080 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 5: have since then obviously taken over the world. And I mean, shit, 1081 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,359 Speaker 5: we talk about how much money Michael Jordan has made 1082 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 5: off of all that shit. 1083 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 4: But Nike. 1084 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 5: Right now, how many billion dollars in the market captains 1085 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 5: fucking Nike have you know what I'm saying, Like that 1086 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 5: changed everything on a global scale in terms of not 1087 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,439 Speaker 5: just like fashion and culture, but just like the pure 1088 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 5: economics of who is selling and buying things. 1089 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 3: What's interesting to me too about Nike now is they 1090 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,439 Speaker 3: don't make shoes in my opinion, that you can wear 1091 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,800 Speaker 3: with jeans. Let's not basketball shoes anymore, at least that 1092 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 3: you can wear, you know, with with like your your 1093 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 3: pants and shit like that's you know, like, if if 1094 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 3: I'm not wearing no basketball shoe that's come out in 1095 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,359 Speaker 3: like three years with some fucking jeans, you just can't 1096 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 3: see me do it. Like my jeans ain't fat enough, 1097 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,760 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like to match the beef 1098 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 3: of the shoe, you know what I'm saying, Like the 1099 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 3: beef is you know, it's it's it's it's it's not unbalanced, you. 1100 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 4: Know what I mean. 1101 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 3: Like so like they going going away with that, They're 1102 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 3: just gonna mainly performance, but I mean they still. 1103 00:48:59,000 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 4: Air Max shit. 1104 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:01,879 Speaker 5: Okay, I have to throw this number out there because 1105 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 5: we talked about, we talked several times about how much 1106 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,839 Speaker 5: money Michael Jordan has made from the partnership with Nike. 1107 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 5: Nike's market cap right now is one hundred. 1108 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,320 Speaker 2: And six billion dollars. 1109 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,959 Speaker 5: And they made track shoes when they signed that dude 1110 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 5: for what was it one hundred and twenty thousand dollars. 1111 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 4: Or some shit wrong, I mean it was they both 1112 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 4: made a lot of money off this. You know what 1113 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 1114 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, king world changing money, yes, oh. 1115 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,760 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, culture changing. 1116 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 5: What what did you guys think about the about the 1117 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 5: they obviously opened up emotionally for the for episode five 1118 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:36,280 Speaker 5: with the Kobe stuff. 1119 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:37,760 Speaker 2: What did you think of the way they put that together. 1120 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,359 Speaker 3: I thought one of the main thing that I thought 1121 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 3: was that I like the fact that they said that 1122 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 3: when he was talking about how Kobe doesn't let the 1123 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 3: game come to him, He'll come and take that shit, 1124 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 3: And I thought that was really interesting. 1125 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 4: Because like Kobe's just always been Kobe, you know what. 1126 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like like he was that kid back then. 1127 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 3: Was that his second year in the league. Yes, you 1128 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 3: know I'm saying like that was interesting to me. 1129 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I liked how how they saw something special, right, 1130 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, they were like, you know that motherfucker's gonna 1131 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: turn this shit into a one on one game, right, 1132 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: like they knew that that was you know, his whole ship. 1133 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,479 Speaker 1: And and then you know Kobe of course giving profs 1134 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,879 Speaker 1: to MJ saying, you know, he pattered his game after him. 1135 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,840 Speaker 1: You know, I never got motherfuckers who killed Kobe for 1136 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 1: being fake? MJ? Like, if you're a two guard, why 1137 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 1: would you not study the best two guard of the 1138 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 1: planner you gonna who are you gonna study fucking Hersey Hawkins? 1139 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 1: Like your ship after the best to ever? Fucking do 1140 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: I mean to to. 1141 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 4: Even have the ability? 1142 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,440 Speaker 3: First, sure, you have a certain level of ability to 1143 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 3: pattern yourself after him. But that's how good Kobe was, 1144 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 3: is that he's even comparable. 1145 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 4: In that way. 1146 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, There's how many people, how 1147 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 3: many two guards patter in their game after Jordan? And 1148 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 3: how many did We not even didn't even notice that 1149 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,800 Speaker 3: that's there, you know, like you could you saw you 1150 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 3: saw Jordan all over his game, because he was good 1151 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,879 Speaker 3: enough for you to see Jordan all through his game. 1152 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,239 Speaker 3: There's a lot of motherfucker not here hoping that that 1153 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 3: that pattered themselves out to Jordan, but didn't have what 1154 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 3: it took to even you didn't shit, you know. 1155 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 4: Right, No hate the Ted. 1156 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 5: Porter, I just it just seems stupid to kill anyone 1157 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 5: for patterning themselves like everyone patted themselves after after Michael Jordan's, 1158 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 5: Like Tiger Woods pattered himselfs after Michael Jordan's you know, 1159 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 5: like I mean every athletic competitor. We've talked about this, 1160 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,360 Speaker 5: in my opinion, has been bad for American sports that 1161 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 5: that ultimate alpha dog mentality is not seen as a 1162 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 5: personality type in this country, but as the correct personality 1163 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 5: type for athletes, you know what I mean. So, I 1164 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 5: mean the whole the entire country has pattered themselves after 1165 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 5: Michael Jordan's like competitiveness in terms of the way we 1166 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 5: go about sports, Like if you've ever been around U sports, 1167 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 5: dads are thinking about Michael Jordan when they're talking. 1168 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,320 Speaker 2: To their four year olds bro, Like that's just that 1169 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 2: he's ubiquitous. 1170 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 5: Like he was the foundation of modern sports culture in 1171 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 5: terms of fashion, in terms of style, in terms of 1172 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 5: the attitude, in terms of everything. 1173 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 2: So like, of course people. 1174 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 5: Were patterning themselves after him, Like it's so stupid to 1175 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 5: criticize someone for that. 1176 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,840 Speaker 7: A five to eight dad, right is. 1177 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:21,760 Speaker 4: Talking to the kid. 1178 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 3: Right in SIPs in between SIPs of their fucking Caprice 1179 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 3: son giving them fucking you know, Jordan Jims niggas. 1180 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 5: But like, let's think about this, bro, Like we've all 1181 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 5: heard the stories about Tiger Woods's dad and the way 1182 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 5: he trained him when he was a toddler, and shit, right, yeah, 1183 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,879 Speaker 5: I mean Tiger Woods was born. Tiger Woods was born 1184 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,919 Speaker 5: in the mid seventies. Bro, Like he was a little 1185 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,920 Speaker 5: kid as all this Michael Jordan stuff was happening, Like 1186 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,440 Speaker 5: that was the like it's the same thing with the 1187 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 5: Williams sisters, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, that's 1188 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,800 Speaker 5: what everyone's dad was going after, was like you gotta 1189 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,880 Speaker 5: be like this, You've got to compete like this in 1190 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,359 Speaker 5: this specific way of like ruthlessness and everything else. 1191 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know, it's to me. 1192 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 3: I don't even know, from what I've seen, Michael Jordan's dad, 1193 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 3: like Tiger Wood's dad, it was. 1194 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,759 Speaker 4: A you know that that he he that he has 1195 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 4: a particular way you his son was going to play golf. 1196 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,720 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Uh Serena, the Williams sisters, 1197 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 3: you know, uh uh they were gonna be tennis players. 1198 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Michael Jordan's dad, Like, I 1199 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 4: think Michael. 1200 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 3: Was more of the drive himself, Like you know, his 1201 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,880 Speaker 3: his brother was the one that was beloved in the family, 1202 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,439 Speaker 3: and he was like, I'm gonna do what I gotta 1203 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:38,800 Speaker 3: do to be better than this motherfucker. 1204 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 1205 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,760 Speaker 1: They said himself he wanted to be a star basketball 1206 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 1: player to get his dad's attention. 1207 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. So I don't know, but it was that that dry. 1208 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 3: But but what I really think is really interesting is like, 1209 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,840 Speaker 3: you know, Michael Jordan being who he was, was very 1210 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 3: natural as far as the basketball player, you know what 1211 00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like working as hard as he did put 1212 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 3: all the for him to being good at basketball, all 1213 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 3: this shit that comes with that, and how that is 1214 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 3: what drove what that seems what drove him away from 1215 00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,319 Speaker 3: the game twice you. 1216 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,960 Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying. It was just it was just 1217 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 4: his difficulty would hit him hating the external shit that 1218 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 4: comes with it, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, exactly, 1219 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 4: And imagine how how that would have affected him. 1220 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 3: Now and we, you know, we get on, we get 1221 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,319 Speaker 3: on players now about this was the smallest everything, Okay, 1222 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 3: And that's. 1223 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 2: The one thing I haven't seen anyone talk about. 1224 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,280 Speaker 5: But Michael Jordan was reading the newspaper almost every fucking 1225 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 5: time he was in a moving vehicle, whether it was 1226 00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 5: a plane or a bus or whatever. And like, if 1227 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 5: you don't think that dude would have had a burner 1228 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 5: fucking Twitter account, you are out of your fucking mind. 1229 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:44,840 Speaker 4: You already know already. 1230 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 2: But I mean the thing is what he had everything, Broe. 1231 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 1: Do you remember when he took over the Hornets Twitter 1232 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:54,399 Speaker 1: account that day? 1233 00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:57,279 Speaker 2: Who was it? 1234 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,839 Speaker 1: Some golf dude, some pro golfer who just golfing buddy, 1235 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 1: little young guy like twenty eight years old or something, 1236 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 1: you know, just crack the jump on how we busted 1237 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,799 Speaker 1: MJ's ass on the golf course and MJ tweeted from 1238 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 1: the ward it's a count, George's I don't wear your 1239 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: shoes absolutely would have had a burd Kevin Durant on 1240 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:20,919 Speaker 1: steroids are. 1241 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 14: Like these news are obsessive because it's what he said, right, 1242 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 14: he has a competition problem, like he's looking for everything 1243 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,840 Speaker 14: anyone can say to turn that shit into fuel, to 1244 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 14: turn it into motivation, or just because he's obsessed with it. 1245 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,799 Speaker 2: Like so, I I don't know. The only other thing 1246 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 2: I wanted to say about the. 1247 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,800 Speaker 5: Kobe thing was I just thought it was amazing that 1248 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 5: clip of and this is the stuff that we really 1249 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:46,880 Speaker 5: don't get to see that much that I wish we 1250 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 5: could because it doesn't like make people dislike athletes, it's 1251 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:51,879 Speaker 5: just the way they are in real life. 1252 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 2: But that clip of them sitting in the locker. 1253 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 5: Room before the game, and it's just four different East 1254 00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 5: All Stars talking about Kobe Bryant as a nineteen year old, 1255 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 5: like that was so special. 1256 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:01,959 Speaker 2: Dude. 1257 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I just like I wish they could 1258 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,480 Speaker 5: just open that door up like that. And you know 1259 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,240 Speaker 5: Patrick Ewing telling Michael Jordan, don't start. 1260 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:14,399 Speaker 3: That ship, like right right right right, give me y'all 1261 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,720 Speaker 3: like that ass bust of today, don't start that ship. 1262 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:17,000 Speaker 9: Man. 1263 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,919 Speaker 4: Hey, that's low key, like it was almost hands team. 1264 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,840 Speaker 4: Is that boy, he really bust the ass that don't start. 1265 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 3: That ship had some He clissed his hands like Arthur, 1266 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:34,360 Speaker 3: that Arthur me, don't just start that ship. That nigga 1267 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 3: was hot, man, that nigga was hot. But yeah, man, 1268 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:38,680 Speaker 3: but all right, I guess we. 1269 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:44,399 Speaker 4: Talked with them until next week. Next week, right, right, y'all, 1270 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:45,880 Speaker 4: y'all be cool, all right. 1271 00:56:46,000 --> 00:57:13,320 Speaker 1: By you were. 1272 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 12: Saying that you don't feel home when the sun comes 1273 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 12: to reply my dad, don't forget when we were young 1274 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 12: and thought fit. 1275 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 1: Don't feel when that was on now and. 1276 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 12: A hundred miles keep going and keep going to the 1277 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 12: paddle on the fun of the sky. 1278 00:57:49,280 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 10: Consister, wisters, see Tom. 1279 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 12: About the time I had tone of tone of vision. 1280 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 16: Anyway and made me blind. 1281 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,840 Speaker 12: Man in taking did we started staying on top of 1282 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 12: the well, going it just the mountain. 1283 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:43,480 Speaker 16: Fine, Oh, this mom is come and go everything I 1284 00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,480 Speaker 16: thought I'd go sn a wild Let me hind. 1285 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 1: It's wister Lister. 1286 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:05,920 Speaker 6: Was fast 1287 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 3: Two