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Speaker 2: My man, how you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well. I hate this because I haven't gotten

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Speaker 1: to watch a ton today and right now the NBA

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Speaker 1: game is preempted where I am because we've had tornadoes

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Speaker 1: and so we've had loss of life here and I honestly,

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Speaker 1: it's the worst possible reason not to be able to

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Speaker 1: watch the main part of the n season tournament finals

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Speaker 1: is something that's far more important, like the escape on

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Speaker 1: the television just doesn't really matter as much right now

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Speaker 1: when we have six confirmed, you know, people that have

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Speaker 1: lost their lives during the holiday season, as well as

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Speaker 1: a ton of damage and roofs being you know, blown off,

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Speaker 1: and cards have returned on interstates and and things like that.

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Speaker 1: Today that was not not what we were all expecting,

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Speaker 1: to say the least, So certainly from where we are,

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Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers to everybody. I've reached out to a

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Speaker 1: lot of people I know and they are okay, but

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Speaker 1: it's it's been a rough day in this part of

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Speaker 3: It has been a tough day.

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Speaker 2: And U you know, thoughts are obviously with everybody in Nashville.

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Speaker 2: You know we're on and not only Nashville, but Knoxville

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Speaker 2: and you know, all over the state of Tennessee. So

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Speaker 2: for everybody listening, we hope we can be a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a distraction for everybody else. Jason, I'll say this,

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Speaker 2: it was a wild, wild, wild really day. But I'll

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Speaker 2: say this has been a busy week in sports. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we signed off last week in the midst of the

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Speaker 2: Florida State Alabama debate. We got the four team college

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Speaker 2: football playoff, we got the uh you know, we got

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Speaker 2: the Heisman Trophy tonight. We got all sorts of good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Obviously that in se is a tournament that you just reference.

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Speaker 2: But the place that I want to start o Tani

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Speaker 2: Fever and I know, listen I know it happened about

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Speaker 2: twelve hours ago. I think Manci and her crew were

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Speaker 2: on air when it when it broke, So you've been

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Speaker 2: hearing reaction from throughout the day. But this is, in

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Speaker 2: my opinion, still the biggest story in sports, even whatever

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Speaker 2: But I do want to get your perspective. You're a

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Speaker 2: huge baseball guy, and it is I think the most.

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Speaker 2: I just think it's fascinating by now, you know the

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Speaker 2: reports seven hundred million dollars ten year contract for show

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Speaker 2: Heyo Tani with the Los Angeles Dodgers, and really, Jason,

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Speaker 2: I think the thing that stands out to me more

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Speaker 2: But why I bring it up is just because it

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Speaker 2: just cap just a wild week with the Otani stuff.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it started with you know, the Buster ol

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Speaker 2: Needs of the world saying that Tani was actually doing

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Speaker 2: baseball a disservice by not making his free agency more

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Speaker 2: of a public spectacle the way we've seen in the

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Speaker 2: yesterday was flight track fever, where we thought he was

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Speaker 2: going to Toronto. Was he going to Toronto? Was he

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Speaker 2: in Toronto? Was he not in Toronto. We're following flights

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Speaker 2: and then it turns out that Robert Hersovich from Shark

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Speaker 2: all of that, it ends with the way I think

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Speaker 2: with Shoeo Tani as a member of the Los Angeles Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: He announced it on his Instagram feed this afternoon. It

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Speaker 2: becomes official. Obviously, just you know, this incredible talent is

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Speaker 3: Sho Heyo Tani. Jason is a Los Angeles Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean where he ended up is not surprising

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Speaker 1: at all. The narrative surrounding this all week was so

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Speaker 1: course we were told forever that, you know, we heard

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Speaker 1: get other guys. And yes, the Bonia jokes are going

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Speaker 1: to be made for a long long time potentially. But

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Speaker 1: when you hear ten years, seven hundred million dollars, the

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Speaker 1: first thing I thought was, Okay, well, I mean they're

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Speaker 1: not paying for the back half of this contract. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean that they won't pay it out. It means this

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Speaker 1: deal is all about what he can generate for them

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if he wins a World Series, if

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Speaker 1: next two or three years, it's already paid itself off.

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Speaker 1: I was looking at one article from CBS and they

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Speaker 1: Otani has made the Angels, according to the La Times,

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Speaker 1: somewhere between ten and twenty million a year in advertising, marketing,

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Speaker 1: it says there's a reason they invested seven hundred million

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Speaker 1: also not a We're gonna have him for ten years.

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Speaker 2: So I guess so, yes, I agree on everything you

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Speaker 2: just said. My thought is, and you know, and I've

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Speaker 2: read reports today it was actually the Dodgers team doctor

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Speaker 2: But the doctors have basically said, you know, he's going

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Speaker 2: be two opening days from now. Why I bring it up, Jason,

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Speaker 2: is I remember in the early stages of the conversation

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Speaker 2: So this was May June of last year, when he's

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Speaker 2: just trending towards another monster season both on the mound

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Speaker 2: conversation being you know what, well, you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean if a good position. You know, if an

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Speaker 3: So why I bring it up?

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Speaker 2: Listen, you pay what you pay, you get the most

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Speaker 2: of sports. But you know, I guess what this contract

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Speaker 2: that once you have that second elbow surgery, you're probably

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Speaker 2: not Probably there's a history says you're probably not the

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Speaker 2: And again speculator, you know, the doctors basically said the

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Speaker 2: expectation is that he is our opening day starter spring

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Speaker 2: out to me is is listen, it's Dodgers' money. Spend

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Speaker 2: it however you want. We'll see how much you make

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Speaker 2: indicates to me that they still think he can be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that's right. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: ends up affecting both sides of his game. But what

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Speaker 1: It's his game. It's the fact that he's just that

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Speaker 1: So I agree with you. I feel like the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: wanted to continue to do both things. I want to

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Speaker 1: know how long he can do both things. And I

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Speaker 1: don't mean at a high level. I just mean eventually,

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Speaker 1: Maybe this is just what he's gonna be. And he

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Speaker 1: is just that level of unicorn. But the problem with

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Speaker 1: doing both of those things, he has not been able

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Speaker 1: that frightens me.

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Speaker 2: So I want to bring in Disager here with too

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Speaker 2: quick with for people. I know everybody listening to FSR,

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Speaker 2: but Disager is as much of an la officionado as anybody.

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Speaker 3: I have two questions for you to Sager.

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Speaker 1: One.

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Speaker 2: The first one is what I just asked Jason, the contract.

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Speaker 2: Does that reflect to you that the Dodgers expect him

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Speaker 2: to be in a fun Okay, so that's one I

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Speaker 2: take disager, and I want you to tear me apart

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Speaker 2: But I do get I personally, as a casual baseball

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Speaker 3: That's not what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying Dave Roberts has nothing to do with it.

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Speaker 4: In fact, Kershaw's exact quote was that was a gigantic

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Speaker 2: The universal DH brings Otani to the Dodgers. Yes, real quick, Jason,

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Speaker 4: And the prices of Dodger Opening Day went over three

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Speaker 1: The prices went from five poin fifty to eight eighty.

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Speaker 2: Well, that is the best teas that I can possibly

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Speaker 2: Before the break, talking about the record setting contract that

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: And so you reference Ken Rosenthal uh and the article

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Speaker 2: Good for the Dodgers, we'll see, good for you and

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Speaker 1: See, I'm kind of torn because there's different ways to

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Speaker 1: think that their teams can compete because they're never going

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Speaker 1: to spend this kind of money. It's creating a haves

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Speaker 1: and have not system. I think that part of the

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Speaker 1: argument is fair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's interesting growing up where I did

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Speaker 2: in the state of Connecticut. You know, I was right

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Speaker 2: in the heart of Yankees Country. I wasn't a Yankees

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Speaker 2: fan during you know, the Evil Empire phase with Jeter

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Speaker 2: and a Rod and all those guys. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: you go on and on down the list, and so

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Speaker 2: I see it from the outside. Fans perspective. I guess,

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Speaker 2: as these sports commentator that has been doing this as

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Speaker 2: long as I have, it just never works out the

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Speaker 2: way that you think, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you just go.

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Speaker 2: Go through all, you know, Kevin Durant signing with the Warriors,

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Speaker 2: you think it's over for a decade. They end up winning,

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Speaker 2: you know what, two titles in three years, and then

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Speaker 2: he's gone. Lebron goes to Miami, Well why are we

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Speaker 2: even competing and it's like, well, you know, guess what,

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Speaker 2: they didn't win it the first year, Dallas did, and

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Speaker 2: after three years it was basically over. I know, they

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Speaker 2: made the finals, they lost to the Spurs.

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Speaker 3: I think you can even go to the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: I mean they signed Freddy Freeman a few years ago

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Speaker 2: and it's like, well, why are we even bothering?

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Speaker 3: And then it's like, well, what have the Dodgers done

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Speaker 3: since then?

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Speaker 1: So? Well, men, you had the Padres. I mean, look

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Speaker 1: look at who just won the nd season tournament spoiler alert,

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Speaker 1: Lebron and ad Oh, they're gonna win every championship. Not really,

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Speaker 1: it hasn't hasn't happened that way.

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Speaker 2: I mean literally, I mean Kawhi and Paul George I mean,

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Speaker 2: you go on and on down the list.

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Speaker 1: So Texas A and m.

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Speaker 3: Peril of college football.

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Speaker 2: No, you're absolutely right, So no, listen, we could get

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Speaker 2: back to Otani because I do want to get to

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Speaker 2: the Sager and talk a little bit about this n

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Speaker 2: Season Tournament. But that is my kind of overall thought

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Speaker 2: on that. I understand the frustration of a fan of

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Speaker 2: the other twenty nine teams. I also have seen it

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Speaker 2: enough in sports where it never works out the way

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Speaker 2: that we expect. Fox Sports Radio Aeron Tours, Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: broadcasting Life from the Tyreck dot Com Studios. As Jason

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Speaker 2: just teased, we do have breaking news out of the NBA.

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Speaker 2: For that, we'll toss it over the news desk Steve

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Speaker 2: Desager and.

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Speaker 4: We'll get to the details. As the Lakers win the

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Speaker 4: final in Vegas of the n Season Tournament one twenty

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Speaker 4: three to one oh nine over India. I'm glad you

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Speaker 4: guys brought up the payrolls because the top three payrolls

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Speaker 4: in baseball last year were Mets, Yankees, and Padres. None

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Speaker 4: of them even made the playoffs, much less won the title.

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Speaker 4: And guess who else was in the top ten? The Angels,

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Speaker 4: who never made the playoffs all the years that Otani

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Speaker 4: was there, So we need to say it again out

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Speaker 4: loud and emphasize, yes, money helps, but games are won

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Speaker 4: by teams. They're one on the field. That the top

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Speaker 4: three payrolls went absolutely nowhere last year. I think when

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Speaker 4: the Kansas City Royals were in the World Series back

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Speaker 4: to back seasons less than a decade ago, that was

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Speaker 4: a great example of a team winning a pennant, and

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Speaker 4: I repeat, they won two in a row infect in

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Speaker 4: that era. Bruce Bochi's Giants three World Series titles in

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Speaker 4: five years. Can you name their lineup other than Buster Posey,

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Speaker 4: And they won three World Series titles.

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Speaker 1: They were tenth, eighth, and tenth in those three years

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Speaker 1: in payroll. By the way, the Giants, yeah, they were

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Speaker 1: tenth twice and they were eighth in the middle in

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Speaker 1: the second run twenty twelve they were eight. So they

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Speaker 1: were never higher than eighth in payroll, so they were

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Speaker 1: right around you know that.

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Speaker 4: Ten more and the Angels were sixth in payroll this

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Speaker 4: past year. Just for the record, I would have as

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Speaker 4: a fan, and that was a great question you asked

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Speaker 4: before the break. As a fan, I would have been

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Speaker 4: fine with Otani going to any team that already has

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Speaker 4: great attendance and excitement, so that would be not just Yankees, Dodgers, Cardinals, Braves, Phillies.

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Speaker 4: The Blue Jays would probably be a no because it's

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Speaker 4: not in the United States. The reason why I think

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Speaker 4: this is a step up for Major League Baseball is

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Speaker 4: because they've had Otani in their league for six years

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Speaker 4: and he hasn't played in a single playoff game. They

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Speaker 4: get eyeballs at All Star Week and playoffs and he's

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Speaker 4: been a no show because of his bad team and

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Speaker 4: bad organization for six whole years. Well we'll get to

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Speaker 4: the Heisman stuff in a moment, but the NBA just

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Speaker 4: finished the final of the n Season Tournament in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 4: Lakers won twenty three one oh nine over the Indiana Pacers.

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Speaker 4: Lakers from three point range were two for thirteen, but

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Speaker 4: Anthony Davis had forty one points and twenty rebounds in

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Speaker 4: this victory. Tyrese Halliburton eleven assists in the loss for

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Speaker 4: the Indiana Pacers, and Yes sho Hey Otani agreed to

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Speaker 4: a ten year contract with the Dodgers. Were seven hundred

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Speaker 4: million dollars if you include the deferred money It's believed

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Speaker 4: to be the largest deal in sports history. Glow in

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Speaker 4: college football. Today in Foxboro, Massachusetts, Army beat Navy seventeen

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Speaker 4: to eleven. The Heisman Trophy winner named tonight is LSU

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Speaker 4: senior quarterback Jaden Daniels. He threw forty touchdown passes and

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Speaker 4: had only four interceptions the entire season and one thousand

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Speaker 4: yards rushing plus, so he's the third Heisman winner in

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Speaker 4: LSU's football history Joe Burrow a few years ago and

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Speaker 4: in nineteen fifty nine Billy Cannon. The only other LSU

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Speaker 4: quarterback on the list of finishing top ten in Heisman

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Speaker 4: voting was Burt Jones about fifty years ago before he

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Speaker 4: went to by the Way, finishing a very distant fifth

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Speaker 4: with Florida State QB Jordan Travis, first top ten finisher

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Speaker 4: for the Heisman for FSU since Dalvin Cook. Jamis Winston's

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Speaker 4: Heisman was a full decade ago. Now, Alabama's quarterback Jalen

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Speaker 4: Milroe finished sixth. Bama has now had a quarterback finished

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Speaker 4: top ten for the Heisman six years in a row,

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Speaker 4: including Bryce Young. The previous two years. Seventh place was

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Speaker 4: Oklahoma State running back Ali Gordon, then Cody Schrader, Missouri

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Speaker 4: running back finished eighth. Blake Corn Michigan and JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 4: Michigan finished nine tenth. But it was only the top

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Speaker 4: four or five that got any serious voting. Daniels first,

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Speaker 4: Michael Pennox, Washington quarterback. Second to college basketball number one,

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Speaker 4: Arizona Blitz number twenty three Wisconsin ninety eight seventy three. Today,

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Speaker 4: Kansas defeated Missouri, Perdue, beat Alabama, Saint Mary's upset thirteenth

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Speaker 4: rank Colorado State and Utah edge number fourteen BYU Top

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Speaker 4: twenty matchup at Tennessee went to the balls over Illinois.

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Speaker 4: And also in college hoops, it's going on right now,

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Speaker 4: late first half. It's number seven Gonzaga leading at Washington

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Speaker 4: thirty nine, thirty five. There's a game on FS one

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Speaker 4: right now at number twenty five San Diego State late

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Speaker 4: first half as takes over UC Irvine thirty one, twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve Seger, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports siveday eritors Jason Martin broadcasting from

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Speaker 2: the Tireck dot Com studios. So, Jason, the in season

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Speaker 2: tournament is now final, as the SEGA just told us.

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Speaker 2: The Los Angeles Lakers win the first one, and you know, listen,

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Speaker 2: I'll say this for for anybody doubting how seriously the

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Speaker 2: NBA was taking this the Lakers, for people who are

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Speaker 2: not in front of a TV, are standing at mid

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Speaker 2: court with a trophy in hand, with medals around their neck,

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Speaker 2: with confetti falling on them. I bring it up to say,

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Speaker 2: you know, listen, this is a topic you and I

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Speaker 2: have been on since literally July, the night that they

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Speaker 2: announced the parameters of this in season tournament, the early

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Speaker 2: stages on home courts, obviously, which led to the two

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Speaker 2: nights in Vegas on Thursday and this evening. I'll just

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Speaker 2: ask you, and you know, we gotta you know, we've

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Speaker 2: got plenty of time to discuss. Did this in season

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Speaker 2: tournament in any way, shape or form captivate you? Has

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Speaker 2: things changed now that they're in Vegas, now that we've

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Speaker 2: crowned a champion. What are your thoughts now that the

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Speaker 2: first nd season tournament is complete.

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Speaker 1: I want to try to be nice about this because

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Speaker 1: there are some people that really enjoyed it, and if

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Speaker 1: you did, that's phenomenal. I would love to see it

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Speaker 1: grow into something what I'm tired of is the fleet

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Speaker 1: of media articles that consistently tried to tell me over

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Speaker 1: and over again how great this thing is and how

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Speaker 1: it has worked like gangbusters, and how it's all the

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Speaker 1: players are just completely bought in, and that all the

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Speaker 1: critique of this in advance just it doesn't matter. It

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Speaker 1: fell on deaf fears. This stuff is working, it's great

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Speaker 1: for the league, it's created generated interest in all this,

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Speaker 1: And every time I read one of those articles, it's like, man,

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Speaker 1: you read my mind, because you know where my skepticism is. Like,

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Speaker 1: you don't write those articles unless you know people think

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Speaker 1: that think the opposite and that you're trying to argue

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Speaker 1: against it. It just felt kind of propaganda ish in

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Speaker 1: favor the NBA. I think the tournament was fun. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't bad. I like the NBA, so I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be fine with an nd season tournament. Don't tell me

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Speaker 1: it matters. I mean, the Lakers are not the best.

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Speaker 1: They are the bettest. I guess because they won the

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Speaker 1: first in season tournament. I don't know what this means.

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Speaker 1: Do I think they're gonna win the NBA Championship?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 1: Do I think this should have any bearing on what

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Speaker 1: we think about whether they're gonna be able to win

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Speaker 1: the NBA Championship. No, was this competitive at times created

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Speaker 1: some good games, yes, But I also remember regular season

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Speaker 1: games that created interest in years past, even though they

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Speaker 1: don't ultimately mean anything when you get to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: So I'm torn because I certainly don't want to poo

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Speaker 1: poo such something that you may have liked. If you're

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Speaker 1: listening to us tonight. Did it captivate me? Not particularly.

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Speaker 1: It was just another It was just another sporting event.

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Speaker 1: It just felt kind of drummed up. And again, the

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Speaker 1: more thread on me how great it was told me

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Speaker 1: it wasn't that great because you had to continue to

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Speaker 1: try and sell me on that because I wasn't buying

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Speaker 1: it beforehand, and b by me not buying it, I

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Speaker 1: mean the sports watching public because you didn't write that

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Speaker 1: article for me. You wrote it for everyone that's exactly

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Speaker 1: like me, and that's a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Jason, I share a lot of

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00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: the same sentiment as you, and I want to expand

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Speaker 2: on some of the things you said. Well, come back,

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Speaker 2: we'll continue the conversation. For people driving around the Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles Lakers are the first winner of the in season

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Speaker 2: NBA Basketball Tournament. They beat the Los Angeles or they

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Speaker 2: beat the Indianapolis Pacers Indiana Pacers. Excuse me, Anthony Davis

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Speaker 2: a forty one point twenty one rebound night. Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: Lakers beat the Indiana Pacers one twenty three, one oh nine.

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Speaker 3: Come back.

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Speaker 2: Continue the conversation on the in season tournament that's next.

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Speaker 2: for those of you who just joined us. Busy day

651
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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, obviously the sho heyo Tani news earlier

652
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: in the day, followed by the Los Angeles Lakers winning

653
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: the first ever NBA N Season Tournament. They beat the

654
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Speaker 2: Indianapolis And I don't know why I keep saying Indianapolis

655
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 2: Pacers as if I've never watched the NBA before. Indiana

656
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: Pacers one twenty three to one oh nineh Lebron James

657
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Speaker 2: is named the tournament MVP. Anthony Davis with a forty

658
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Speaker 2: one to twenty one stat line tonight in victory and

659
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Speaker 2: before the break, Jason and I were kind of talking about,

660
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Speaker 2: you know, did the n Season Tournament capture us?

661
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Speaker 3: And did it kind of serve its purpose?

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Speaker 2: Jason, I'll be blunt, I kind of have the same

663
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Speaker 2: take that you do. And I don't want to be

664
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Speaker 2: that guy because if I say it, then it's like, well, Torres,

665
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: you you didn't like it from the beginning, and you

666
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: weren't into it from the beginning, and so blah blah

667
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. So you're just saying that because you

668
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: always had that perspective. That's not it at all. Listen,

669
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Speaker 2: I actually thought the Thursday coverage was pretty good Live

670
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: from Vegas. You kind of had the TNT ESPN crossover

671
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley going back and forth with Stephen A. Smith

672
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: and Bob Myers and all that. You know, I thought

673
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: the fans on the scene were really cool today, Jason,

674
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Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I just thought it got lost in

675
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Speaker 2: the shuffle with everything else. I mean, even watching ESPN

676
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: this morning, the focus was college game day, Army Navy.

677
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: You know, Otani didn't help. That's nothing the NBA can

678
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: can do. I you know, listen, I don't know. I

679
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: what I would say as an outside observer, this is

680
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: my personal opinion is I think for the I thought

681
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: the diehard NBA fans really loved it. I don't really

682
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 2: think it captured the casual fan the way the NBA won.

683
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: Now it's your one. They're gonna keep doing it. They're

684
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: gonna figure out what worked and what didn't. But you know, listen,

685
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 2: I mean, we know what the sporting events on the

686
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: calendar are that capture sports fans, you know, outside of

687
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: you know, the NFL whatever, like it's whatever, you know,

688
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: fill in the blank, the Kentucky Derby, Uh, you know,

689
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament, the Masters, and I know that those

690
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: events have gone on for decades, if not a century now,

691
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Speaker 2: but I just don't I don't feel like it captured

692
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Speaker 2: the casual fan the way that people wanted. I know

693
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 2: the ratings were pretty good on Thursday. I think that

694
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: was probably a lot of reflection of the fact that

695
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Speaker 2: the Lakers were playing like I don't know.

696
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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be mister negative.

697
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Speaker 2: I don't think it captured the casual non NBA die

698
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Speaker 2: hard the way that it wanted. I still go back

699
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: to the fact I think they should have a two

700
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Speaker 2: week in season tournament in Vegas with all thirty teams.

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Speaker 3: That's just me.

702
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: But he'd neither here nor there, So I guess that's

703
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Speaker 2: my takeaway. I'm not rooting against it. I don't want

704
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 2: to see it fail because it didn't make sense to

705
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Speaker 2: me back in July. But I don't feel like it

706
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Speaker 2: captured I don't think. I don't think most people that

707
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: aren't into the NBA tuned in with baited breath for

708
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: forty eight minutes tonight and for you know, ninety six

709
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: minutes two nights ago for those two semi final games.

710
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Speaker 2: Flores Jeers, Jason, that's just my opinion. I'm not trying

711
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: to be negative Nancy here. It's just just how I

712
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Speaker 2: really feel.

713
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Speaker 1: I would say this. I don't think it hurt the NBA.

714
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: I think that it helped. It generated maybe a little

715
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: more interest for a casual fan. Maybe in terms of

716
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Speaker 1: a hardcore fan, I think you're right. I mean, you're

717
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: adding just something else. You're adding a little bit more

718
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: enticement at a time when there's not that much enticement.

719
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Speaker 1: We're not really paying attention to records for most teams

720
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 1: until after the All Star break. This creates a little

721
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: bit more of a reason to watch. I can understand it.

722
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Speaker 1: I don't think it was a net negative in any way.

723
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Speaker 1: Now I need to see a breakdown of what it

724
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Speaker 1: actually costs the league to do it. But there's certainly

725
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: no harm in it. I just and this is the

726
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: same problem I have a spring football, leagues and a

727
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: number of other things. When you have to try and

728
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: make me care that there's a championship on the line,

729
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: if you have to like and I understand, at some

730
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: point everything, at some point in the Stanley Cup had

731
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: no equity. At some point the Super Bowl wasn't a

732
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: thing that mattered. I muse, we didn't know it. It

733
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: hadn't existed before they had to sell it. I understand

734
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: it is a product. They have to make the end

735
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Speaker 1: season tournament work, and twenty years from now, maybe it

736
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Speaker 1: is going to be something that is important in your one.

737
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Speaker 1: It's hard to make me think that that trophy and

738
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Speaker 1: those medals actually mean anything, because there's a Larry O'Brien

739
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: trophy that's given out in June. There's you know, we

740
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: already know that there's a championship still to come. So

741
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: what does this ultimately mean. I don't know. It's just

742
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 1: a little bit of a gimmick, and I do think

743
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Speaker 1: that it helped the hardcore fans maybe jump in a

744
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Speaker 1: little bit more and get something they could really sink

745
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Speaker 1: their teeth into. And I think that's a positive. I

746
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: like the idea of thinking it through. I think that

747
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: the rules didn't help it. The FedEx Cup way that

748
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: it was all set up like this night is an

749
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Speaker 1: n season tournament night. This one's not the way we

750
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: know it is. The courts are ugly, so okay, now

751
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: we know this one actually counts. The nature of it

752
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: kind of made it hard to follow, and it just

753
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: in year one, it did not capture me in terms

754
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: of man I am just so drawn in. But I

755
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: don't think that it hurts.

756
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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 1: I like the idea of trying to think up things

758
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Speaker 1: like this. I just don't know that they're gonna need

759
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: to tweak this and do some things a little bit

760
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Speaker 1: differently in your two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I think the other thing too is I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of people watch because it's Lebron, because it

764
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Speaker 2: was the Bucks on Thursday night. Like I think if

765
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 2: the way and you could argue, well, I'm the Lakers

766
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: are really good, the Bucks are really good. But if

767
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: it had broken where it was Pacers, Kings, Raptors, whoever,

768
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: New Orleans, I like, I don't know that people are watching,

769
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I don't want to be negative.

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Speaker 2: I do have another quick question. We only got a

771
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Speaker 2: few minutes left here before you hit the top of

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Speaker 2: the hour, and it's a question I've heard a lot

773
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Speaker 2: of people discuss, why do you think Lebron Why do

774
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: you think Lebron was so invested in this? Because we've

775
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 2: heard the whole you know, and listen is what you know?

776
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: Colin cow heard our colleague let his show with is

777
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: it's another thing on the resume that a certain number

778
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: twenty three from Chicago didn't have. I mean, do you

779
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: buy And I'm not saying Colin's wrong or I disagree.

780
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Speaker 2: It did feel like Lebron was like weirdly invested in

781
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Speaker 2: this in a way that I don't feel like the

782
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: other NBA superstars were. And I've heard a lot of

783
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: people suggest that, what do you think about why it

784
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: feels like this felt very important to the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think there's something to what you just said,

786
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: or certainly that's the conspiracy theory that makes all the

787
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: sense of the world. I don't know how vain Lebron

788
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: James actually is, because that's pure vanity right there. Like

789
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: if he just needs that one, then that means that

790
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: he's also gonna say I'm a seven time SB Award winner,

791
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 1: and I don't know. I don't know how I feel

792
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: about that either, So I don't know if it's that

793
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Speaker 1: I think the other side of this, and we'll never

794
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: we may never know this. If I'm Adam Silver, there's

795
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: one guy that I need to make sure is on board.

796
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Speaker 1: There's one guy that's like, hey man, you have a

797
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: responsibility to the NBA in some way, shape or form

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Speaker 1: to make this thing matter. Like, I'll do whatever I

799
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: can for you behind the scenes, but help us here,

800
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Speaker 1: help us get this thing off the ground. If you care,

801
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: then you first off, other players will start to care more.

802
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Speaker 1: But most of all, oh, Lebron cares. That's what the

803
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Speaker 1: fans need. So if I'm the NBA, I'm trying to

804
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Speaker 1: get him on board anyway behind the scenes.

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Speaker 2: Well, and that that's what stood out me over the

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Speaker 2: last you know, two three weeks, is that it was

807
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Speaker 2: clear Lebron was invested. Whether it was to help the league,

808
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Speaker 2: to help Adam Silver, to help his own legacy, whatever,

809
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Speaker 2: but you heard him say, Oh, Adam Silver's a genius,

810
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Speaker 2: Adam Silver's this, Adam Silver's that, And it was clear

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Speaker 2: they were invested together. Fox Sports Radio erin tors Jason

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Speaker 2: We talked a lot about show. Hey o Tani, the

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Speaker 2: seven hundred million dollar Man headed to the Dodgers, and

823
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Speaker 2: as de Seger just told you, the Los Angeles Lakers

824
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Speaker 2: just won the first ever in season tournament.

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Speaker 3: We react to that and we'll get back to that

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Speaker 3: later on the show.

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Speaker 2: Jason, I do you know as the we are I

828
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Speaker 2: don't want to call ourselves the you know, the the

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Speaker 2: show of record for college football and Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: but we kind of are, you know, obviously, because of

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Speaker 2: the nature of this time slot eleven to two am

832
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: Eastern on Saturdays, we probably talked more college football than

833
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Speaker 2: most shows on the network, Good bad, whatever. I bring

834
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Speaker 2: it up because last week.

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Speaker 3: You know, we were in the we were in the

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Speaker 3: belly of the beast.

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Speaker 2: As far as the conversation that really I think took

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Speaker 2: over all of sports Saturday night into Sunday and frankly

839
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Speaker 2: into Monday. With Florida State being left out of the

840
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: college football playoff, you and I spent basically all three

841
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Speaker 2: hours last week taking phone calls talking about all the

842
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 2: different scenarios. But on Sunday morning, you know, the shaker happened.

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Speaker 2: You know, Number one, Michigan gets in, Number two, Washington

844
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Speaker 2: gets in as an undefeated PAC twelve champ Texas game,

845
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Speaker 2: It's in as a three seed. I personally didn't think

846
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Speaker 2: there was much of a doubt, just because of the

847
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: way the committee was consistently ranking them ahead of a

848
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Speaker 2: one loss Alabama the entire season, basically saying that that

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Speaker 2: head to head win mattered. Conversation came down to a

850
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Speaker 2: one loss SEC champion Alabama versus obviously the Florida State

851
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Speaker 2: team that went undefeated and won the ACC Championship. We

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Speaker 2: were on air when Florida State finished the regular season.

853
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Speaker 2: We talked about it for three hours. Now that we

854
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Speaker 2: have our playoff field and I know this is a

855
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: little bit late, but you know, again, we talked so

856
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Speaker 2: much college football on the show, we'd be remiss if

857
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Speaker 2: we did not bring up the story of the week

858
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Speaker 2: in college football and just kind of share our reactions

859
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Speaker 2: because we have not been on since the fourteen playoff

860
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Speaker 2: was announced. What was your reaction when things became official

861
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Speaker 2: last Sunday at about twelve thirty Eastern time, Jason.

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Speaker 1: That I mean when you asked at the end of

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Speaker 1: the show last week, what I thought was gonna happen,

864
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: I told you, and it's what happened. I felt bad

865
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: for Florida State. I understood the vitriol, but only to

866
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: a point. And I don't mean from Florida State. I

867
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: understand why the coach and the players would be upset

868
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: some of the media and some of the response from

869
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: the media about how deplorable and unthinkable and all this.

870
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: It's like they're not the same team. And the bylaw

871
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: flat out says that the availability or change in a

872
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: roster it can be taken into consideration. So really that's

873
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: the end of the story. Like they had created, you know,

874
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: the rules gave them the ability to do this. Everything

875
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: was subjective anyways, guys making decisions, and they had set

876
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: the stage all week long to exclude Florida State by

877
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: the comments from Boukorgan on down. Somebody had to be

878
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: excluded here. The only thing that I didn't like about

879
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: this is they continually pointed to the idea of the

880
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: four best teams, which I think is ultimately what it

881
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: should be. But if that's true, then Georgia absolutely should

882
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 1: have been there because Georgia is one of the four

883
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: best teams in the country. If you were to ask

884
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: still discreet with that. By the way, pretty much anybody

885
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: else in the country who they wouldn't want to play, oh,

886
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: I think they would say Georgia, just like I mean,

887
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 1: I think the most telling video of the entire weekend

888
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: was the Michigan room when they found out Alabama was

889
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: the opponent and how they reacted there, and then the

890
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: story from Nicole auerback that came out right after that

891
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: because she was in the room prior to the video

892
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: that was shot there on that phone and they were

893
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: doing the tomahawk shop and they were laughing because they

894
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: were all getting ready for it to be Florida State

895
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: and then it turns out to be Alabama. It's like, oh, well,

896
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: this isn't ideal at all. And I think that tells

897
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: you everything that you need to know. I hated it

898
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: for Florida State, and Jordan Travis made a comment that

899
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: was sad, Yeah, I saw that the comment about I

900
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: wish I had gotten hurt earlier so that you could

901
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: have seen this team was more than a quarterback. That's

902
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: a great leadership thing to say, that is, that's an

903
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: amazing thing for him to say, to back up his

904
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: teammates in the moment. It really is. It also doesn't matter,

905
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: and I don't think if they had not had Jordan

906
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: Travis for six or seven weeks that we would be

907
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: looking at an undefeated Florida State team. Now that's looking

908
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: at hypotheticals, and that's a treacherous place to be. But

909
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: what Jordan Travis said, while laudable and cool for Florida

910
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: State and just shows the leadership and the reason why

911
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: his teammates love him so much, Ultimately, I don't think

912
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: it would have proven out to be true, and you know,

913
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: there's no way to disprove it because we never saw

914
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: it actually happen. But that I think ultimately it just

915
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: comes down to the fact that I'm not even sure

916
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: Florida State with Jordan Travis is better than Alabama. But

917
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: I can tell you for absolute certainty that they're not

918
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 1: better than Alabama without him.

919
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: So I agree with everything you said, and I will

920
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 2: say when we signed off, I think you said you

921
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 2: really thought Alabama was gonna get that four spot and

922
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: I did think as I went to bed that I

923
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 2: thought it was going to be Florida State as that

924
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: fourth team. Not what I thought should happen. What I

925
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: thought would happen was I thought Florida State would get in.

926
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: I am here to tell you that I agree with you.

927
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred percent. Well, I agree

928
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: with you on everything sopt for the Georgia part. We'll

929
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 2: get to that momentarily. But I just you know, a

930
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 2: couple things. One, and we talked about this last week,

931
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,959
Speaker 2: but I remember being on air the night that Jordan

932
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 2: Travis got hurt.

933
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 3: It was awful.

934
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 2: I actually saw the injury live. You could tell by

935
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 2: how he was injured that he was not coming back,

936
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 2: and you, frankly just hoped his career wasn't done whatever.

937
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 2: Don't need to get into that negative part of it,

938
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 2: but I bring it up because I remember talking about

939
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: it that night. Is that, Listen. The number one thing

940
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 2: on the committee's bylaws is that their job is to

941
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 2: pick the four best teams, and they use a bunch

942
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: of different criteria conference championship, undefeated record, one loss, had

943
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: to head win, out of conference, schedule, whatever to determine

944
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 2: who the four best teams are, but the ultimate end

945
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 2: game is to pick the four best teams. And I thought,

946
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: you know, from what I thought would happened to what

947
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 2: did happen is I'm with you. I I two things

948
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 2: can be true. You can feel really bad for Florida

949
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: State and those eighty five guys that went out onto

950
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: the field thirteen times this year and won all thirteen games.

951
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 2: But if the conversation is about the four best teams,

952
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 2: I don't think it's that tough of a debate because

953
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, even with the Georgia angle of it,

954
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: Georgia wasn't a conference champion. Georgia lost its biggest game

955
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: of the year. Georgia had no graade out of conferences.

956
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 2: So a week at debate where Georgia fits blah blah blah,

957
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: this and that. But Alabama did challenge themselves out of conference.

958
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 2: They did have probably the single best win of the season.

959
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: They are a conference champion. So even if you know

960
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: you know best is a subjective thing. But the way

961
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: that we determine what best is Alabama at least checked

962
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: all the boxes and then, oh, by the way, the

963
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 2: eye test as well.

964
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 3: They just won the SEC championship.

965
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: Game, and they I don't say they dominated Georgia, but

966
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 2: they won the SEC title on a neutral field against

967
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 2: the team that everybody deemed to be number one coming

968
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: into that weekend. And so you know, I don't mean

969
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 2: to belabor the point because I do feel bad for

970
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: Florida State, but you know, at the four best teams,

971
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 2: Florida State, listen, it was an incredible season. They are

972
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: a completely different team without Jordan Travis. And the thing

973
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: that I keep going back to is they had two

974
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: chances to prove that Jordan Travis wasn't the reason that

975
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 2: they were a completely different team. And you know, I

976
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 2: don't know if I texted this to you, Jason on

977
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 2: Sunday or night, you know, you myself, and you know

978
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: we were texting back and forth a little bit when

979
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: all this happened. But the reason that Florida State did

980
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: not make the playoff, because I saw all this stuff

981
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: and you and I talked about this a lot last week,

982
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: is like, well, you know, I mean, it's just a

983
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: TV product and they won Alabama. It's like, well, no,

984
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: Alabama finished fifth last year. And if you remember going

985
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: to the final day, even though Ohio State got the

986
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: force by but most believed it was between a one

987
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 2: loss TCU and a two loss Alabama. If it was

988
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 2: solely about the TV product and putting the best TV

989
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 2: product and the teams that people care, they would have

990
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 2: put Alabama in last year. So I don't believe that

991
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 2: was it. I believe the committee really determined that Alabama

992
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 2: was one of the four best teams and that Florida

993
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 2: State had two separate opportunities to prove that they were

994
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: one of those teams, and if they did, they would

995
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: have been in. Lastly, I know I'm going along, but

996
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: the point that I was trying to get to and

997
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 2: then I started rambling and getting sideways, is the reason

998
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: Alabama got in and Florida State didn't. It's not because

999
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 2: Alabama's Alabama or Alabama's.

1000
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 3: In the SEC. I said this on Sunday. I truly

1001
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 3: believe it.

1002
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 2: The reason Florida State was not in is because they

1003
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: didn't have their Cardale Jones and what I mean by that.

1004
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: In twenty fourteen, Ohio State was number six going into

1005
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: the final day of the season, the final Big Ten

1006
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: Championship game with a third string quarterback, and they beat Wisconsin.

1007
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: I think it was six three to seven. I could

1008
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,240
Speaker 2: be wrong on that. Ohio State fans forgive me. Ohio

1009
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 2: State proved they were one of the four best teams

1010
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 2: without their starting quarterback or their backup quarterback. Florida State

1011
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 2: had two separate chances. Great defense, but they struggled against Florida.

1012
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: They struggled against Louisville, and that's why they weren't in.

1013
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: And I do think the committee got it right.

1014
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, somebody was going to get left out

1015
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: of a fourteen playoff. This was the year. It blew

1016
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: up in everybody's face, and it's the last year, and

1017
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: it's kind of fitting. It's like, if there was a

1018
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: better advertisement for what's to come, it's what just took place.

1019
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: And you're right. There was no Cardile Jones. There was

1020
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: not even a tate Rodemaker, and who knows what tate

1021
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: Rodemaker would have done. But I could say this, Florida's

1022
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: not good and Louisville was a fraud in terms of

1023
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: being ranked where they were ranked. But at the same time,

1024
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: I feel like basically the entire top ten I saw

1025
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: somebody else say this, I agree with it a million percent.

1026
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: Florida State would have been a touchdown underdog to everybody

1027
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: in the top ten if you were playing them in

1028
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 1: a postseason without Jordan Travis playing on that team, I

1029
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: understand you can win other ways. You can win on defense.

1030
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: But there's a reason why Nick Saban started, you know,

1031
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 1: changing up what was happening on offense. The AJ McCarran

1032
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: days were over. The Greg McElroy days were over. Greg

1033
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: McElroy's in a booth right now, and AJ mccahren gets

1034
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: on the field once in a blue moon, everything changed.

1035
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: They started airing it out. They brought in Lane Kiffin,

1036
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: they brought in Steve Sarkisia. They brought in guys that

1037
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 1: opened it up because they saw it happening around them.

1038
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: It's going that direction. So without Jordan Travis, Florida State

1039
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: is not a top five team in a country again,

1040
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: and I think you could go even further than that.

1041
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: I know that these games weren't played, and that's why

1042
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: games are played and things change and all of that

1043
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 1: kind of thing. But at the same time, if somebody's

1044
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: gonna be left out, I'm gonna leave out the one

1045
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: that's missing by far, the most important piece on their

1046
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: team as opposed to the one whose quarterback just finished

1047
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: sixth in the Heisman voting, despite the fact he was

1048
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: benched against South Florida in the same season. Like, does

1049
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: anybody out there can they honestly say that they are

1050
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: disappointed that they don't get to see this Florida State

1051
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: team play against one of those other three teams as

1052
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: opposed to the Alabama team that got in. I don't

1053
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: think there's a single person, honestly who believes that that

1054
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: would have been a better matchup without Alabama in it.

1055
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 2: Last thought, because it plays off that exact thought is

1056
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this as well this week. I

1057
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: thought it was very interesting. I saw a lot of

1058
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: people defending Florida State and saying they should have been in. Okay,

1059
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: everyone's the title their opinion. I didn't hear anybody. I

1060
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: didn't hear anybody Florida State fans media defending Florida State.

1061
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 2: I don't think I heard Mike Norvel talk about this,

1062
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 2: although I don't know if he was asked, I don't know.

1063
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: I don't know that I heard anybody argue that Florida

1064
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 2: State was one of the four best teams. I heard

1065
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 2: they were one of the foremost deserving. I heard about

1066
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: thirteen to zero. I heard about games on the field

1067
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 2: have the matter. I did not hear one person argue

1068
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: that Florida State is one of the four best teams.

1069
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, it's exactly what

1070
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: you said, Jason. Put them on a neutral field without

1071
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 2: Jordan Travis. Well, guess what they are a two touchdown

1072
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 2: underdog against Georgia in the Orange Bowl in a few

1073
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: weeks from now without Jordan Travis. And that's reflective of

1074
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: what they would have been against Michigan, or against Texas

1075
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 2: or against you know, I don't I'm not an odds maker.

1076
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if they would have been a two

1077
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Speaker 2: touchdown underdog, but they almost certainly would have been a

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Speaker 2: double digit underdog against the other three teams that are

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Speaker 2: currently in the playoff. Feel bad for Florida State, but

1080
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 2: the committee got it right. And lastly, I know this

1081
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 2: is not any saving grace for Florida State fans or

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00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 2: the eighty five guys in that locker room. But as

1083
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 2: we discussed quite a bit Jason, next year, all those

1084
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,240
Speaker 2: conversations go away because we have a twelve team playoff.

1085
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: And call me crazy, I don't think we're gonna be

1086
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: arguing over number thirteen the way that we did over

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00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 2: four versus five this year. Fox Sports Radio erratoris Jason Martin,

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00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com. Student football fans

1089
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 2: be sure to tune into Fox Sports Radio every Sunday

1090
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: morning beginning at ten am Eastern seven Pacific for Countdown

1091
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,840
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1092
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1093
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1095
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Coming up, Jayson,

1096
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 2: do you want to stick with college football? Because just

1097
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 2: when you thought Coach Prime was ready to pack it in,

1098
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: he pulled a rabbit out of his hat and maybe,

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00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 2: just maybe those Colorado Buffaloes aren't done yet. We'll discuss

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Speaker 2: Coach Prime the busy week at Colorado.

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Speaker 3: That's next. Welcome back, everybody, Fox.

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Aaron Taurus, Jason Martin broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 2: Tyreck dot Com studios.

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Speaker 3: Get to the saga in just a few minutes with

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00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 3: an update.

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Speaker 2: We just talked a little bit about that final four

1107
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: in the college football playoff, Jason, there was one other

1108
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 2: college football note that I found very interesting this week.

1109
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 2: So not just us, but everyone on this network, everyone

1110
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: in the sports media. We spilled a lot of ink

1111
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 2: and spent a lot of words talking about Colorado early

1112
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 2: in the year that three and oh start. I believe

1113
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 2: it was four and one, could be mistaken on that.

1114
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: I think it was four and two. Actually, I take

1115
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 2: it back four and two. They I finished four and

1116
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 2: eight overall, and shortly after the season ended, you saw

1117
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: some coaches leave. Sean Lewis, who was demoted, actually got

1118
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 2: the head coaching job at San Diego State. The defensive

1119
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 2: line coach left for Syracuse, and it felt like this

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Speaker 2: Coach Prime thing might be going sideways. I bring it

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00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 2: up because on Wednesday, Thursday morning, if you were watching

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00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 2: on Disputed on FS one, Jordan's, the number one offensive

1123
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 2: tackle in high school football, made his college announcement. He

1124
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 2: had a final four of Oregon, Bama, Ohio State, and

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Speaker 2: Tennessee and he chose the Colorado Buffaloes. I bring it

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Speaker 2: up because Coach Prime, just when he left him for dead,

1127
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 2: just when you thought, oh, it's all sizzle and no

1128
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: steak flips, he didn't flip, but another marquee recruiting win.

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Speaker 2: The number one offensive tackle in America. And it is

1130
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Speaker 2: worth noting, by the way, Jason, this is the transfer

1131
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 2: portal open on Monday. This is the first weekend where

1132
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 2: players are really visiting. How about this?

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Speaker 1: Just look this up.

1134
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 2: Colorado has gotten five commitments this weekend out of the

1135
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 2: transfer portal, four offensive linemen. Now we'll see if they

1136
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 2: could play. One of them was a start in Indiana

1137
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 2: last year they fired their coach. One of them was

1138
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 2: a starter at Houston last year they fired their coach.

1139
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 2: I bring it up to say, what did you make

1140
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 2: a Coach Prime? Just when everybody was ready to give up,

1141
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 2: Ontom shows he's still got that recruiting sizzle. And then

1142
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 2: bigger picture, what does it mean is this program back

1143
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 2: trending towards the right direction? Was it all hype and

1144
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 2: no substance? What do you make of Coach Prime and

1145
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 2: his big recruiting win.

1146
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,959
Speaker 1: I mean it's a big recruiting win. It is, and

1147
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: it kind of bucks the narrative of the last week

1148
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: week and a half about it being all sizzle no

1149
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: steak at Colorado and how it's been exposed, and all

1150
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: these sort of unnamed coaches doing expose as where they're saying, oh,

1151
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: it's about to be hard times at Colorado and all

1152
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: of those things. I think, as usual, it's not as

1153
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: bad as they made it out to be, and it's

1154
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: not as great as some of the rosy stuff is.

1155
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: It's somewhere in the middle, as things usually are. But

1156
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: one thing that Dion is going to do, I would imagine,

1157
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: is what any of us would do, which is get better,

1158
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: learn some things. Is it possible he was a little

1159
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: bit blind to some things he needed to be focused on. Yes,

1160
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: the recruiting wasn't looking all I did. But to the

1161
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: transfer portal, you have an opportunity. And one of the

1162
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Speaker 1: reasons why you wanted to bring a Deon Sanders into

1163
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: a place like Colorado is because Dion can sell a program.

1164
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: Because I want to be around Deon Sanders. I want

1165
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: to be taught by somebody that you know, is in

1166
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: a hall of fame and someone that I grew up

1167
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: some of the my dad grew up watching all that

1168
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: kind of stuff like that matters. So he's going to

1169
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: be able to do that. And maybe he did get

1170
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: in and now he realizes there's a different level of work,

1171
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: there's a different degree of detail that goes into a

1172
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: recruiting class, that goes into the transfer portal that I

1173
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: have to pay attention to. All of those things are

1174
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: completely relevant. I also think Deon Sanders is a smart guy.

1175
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: I think he's willing to adapt, and I think this

1176
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: is a sign that this guy is not completely falling

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00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: in Boulder, Colorado. This is still a work in progress.

1178
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Speaker 1: It's going to take some time. He's still rather new

1179
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: at this whole thing, especially on this level. And you know,

1180
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: Colorado is a school that hasn't been able to generate

1181
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: anything for a very long time. So I still I

1182
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: believe that this can work. I truly do. I think

1183
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: that we need to be a little bit more hesitant,

1184
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: and by way, I mean all of us. We need

1185
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: to be a little bit more hesitant in crowning Colorado

1186
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: if things go well early and this goes for anywhere else.

1187
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: And also pouring dirt on it because I think it's

1188
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: they're both premature, and I think both things have happened

1189
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: to some degree this season.

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Speaker 3: So I pretty much agree with everything you said.

1191
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: Is that you know it was probably never as good

1192
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 2: as it looked in those first couple of weeks, but

1193
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: it probably you know, listen, it wasn't as bad as

1194
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 2: people made it out to beat the end, I mean, listen,

1195
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: they went four and eight. Five of their losses were

1196
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 2: by a touchdown or less. Utah, which finished eight and four.

1197
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Speaker 2: Final week of the season, Colorado lost by six. They

1198
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Speaker 2: lost on a walk off field goal to Arizona, which

1199
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Speaker 2: finished nine and three zero overall. And you know, sometimes

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Speaker 2: some of it was the scheduling. You know, Arizona had

1201
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 2: come off a big win. I forget who maybe Utah

1202
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 2: or something, so that whatever the point I'm trying to

1203
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: make is it four and eight is one a four

1204
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 2: hundred improvement over a year ago when they went one

1205
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 2: and eleven and then two on top of that, like

1206
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Speaker 2: I said, a lot of the games were close, and

1207
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Speaker 2: so I'm with you. I think what this week definitely

1208
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: proved to me once again, and I think you forget it,

1209
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 2: and I think I forgot it when when the negative

1210
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 2: stuff comes out, is that if you can get coach primed,

1211
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Speaker 2: if you can get Dion in front of I believe

1212
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Speaker 2: just about any recruit in the country, you got a shot.

1213
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Speaker 2: Now you're not gonna get all of them because Nick

1214
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 2: Saban doesn't get all of them, Kirby Smart doesn't get

1215
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Speaker 2: all of them.

1216
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Speaker 3: But you're gonna get You're gonna get.

1217
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Speaker 2: More than your thought because this kid, I mean, listen,

1218
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: I know he took visits to Colorado this year, so

1219
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: it wasn't as though like there was no chance. But

1220
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 2: he obviously, you know, played the publicity or whatever, like

1221
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 2: I said, a final four that didn't include Colorado.

1222
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Speaker 3: Then he goes on undisputed and commits. But I think

1223
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 3: that's what I learned is like, you.

1224
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Speaker 2: Know, if if Dion is willing to put in the

1225
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 2: work and if he can get in front of these kids,

1226
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 2: it is clear that he has an impact on in

1227
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 2: you know, able to you know, get a lot of

1228
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 2: kids interested in Colorado that wouldn't be otherwise really quick,

1229
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 2: because I do want to get to Sega here in

1230
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 2: just a minute. You know, we're entering a twelve team

1231
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 2: playoff era. We're entering an era where the Big twelve

1232
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 2: is not going to have Oklahoma in Texas and that

1233
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 2: conference is gonna be wide open. Maybe not next year

1234
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 2: because you know it's gonna be tough. I mean, they

1235
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 2: did go four and eight, but that offensive line was

1236
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 2: not good, the defense needs to be better, et cetera.

1237
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: If coach Brime really is committed, if he stays after

1238
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 2: obviously Shador and Shiloh and his sons leave that program,

1239
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 2: do you think that he can build a a a

1240
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: team that can make the playoff, because again, you know,

1241
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: he's shown the chops to get the individual will recruit.

1242
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 2: But obviously, as we all know, to win at the

1243
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 2: highest level, you need, you know, fifteen to twenty to

1244
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 2: twenty five Jordan seasons every class, and then of course

1245
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 2: to have success in the portal as well. It can't

1246
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 2: be a one off here or there. Do you believe

1247
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 2: that in this new era. I'm not saying national championship

1248
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 2: that that bar is so so so high, and I

1249
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 2: think it's actually gonna get higher when you have to

1250
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 2: win three postseason games as opposed to two. But do

1251
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 2: you think he can build a team that can if

1252
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 2: he stays the next ten years, can win a Big

1253
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 2: twelve title once every two three years, play in that playoff,

1254
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 2: maybe win a game once they get to the playoff,

1255
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 2: and who knows, maybe one day. I'm not saying, you know,

1256
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 2: beat Alabama or anything like that. But do you think

1257
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 2: that that ceiling is potentially there if he sticks around?

1258
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean again with the twelve team playoff, well,

1259
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, of course, the ceiling is absolutely there.

1260
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 1: I do think so, because I think we've seen some

1261
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: programs that have kind of risen from the ashes of

1262
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: nothingness that didn't have a dance and as a name

1263
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: that could bring them in. Is it going to be

1264
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,919
Speaker 1: a challenge absolutely? Is it going to take the time? Yes?

1265
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: Is he going to be there long enough to do

1266
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: it that? I don't know, And I don't think that

1267
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: he's just there for his family and all that. But

1268
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: if he starts to have some degree of success, is

1269
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: he going to get poached before he has a chance

1270
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: to make it to the playoff? I think that might

1271
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: be the bigger question because I don't think this is

1272
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: just going to flame out. Deon Sanders can't coach at

1273
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: a high level in college football. I simply don't believe that,

1274
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: not the way college football is set up now. Is

1275
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: he going to have to be a little bit more

1276
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: patient in terms of his staff and some of that.

1277
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: Is he going to have to be careful about who

1278
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: he hires, how he treats them, when they're there. All

1279
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff. Absolutely, these are things that

1280
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: he's going to have to learn. I think the question

1281
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: is just whether or not there's another job that comes

1282
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: calling at some point that pulls him from Colorado before

1283
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: they're able to complete that journey.

1284
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we will see on the other jobs and all

1285
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 2: that stuff. It is worth noting, by the way, just

1286
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 2: for people who didn't necessarily follow the time at Jackson State,

1287
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 2: went four and three his first year in the COVID year,

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Speaker 2: then made a really big jump to eleven and two

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Speaker 2: in year two, twelve and one in year three. So

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Speaker 2: four wins again at Colorado in his first year. I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying eleven and two, but can he make a

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Speaker 2: big jump? Definitely a step in the right direction this week,

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Speaker 2: as we said, the number one offensive tackle in high

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Speaker 2: school football, Jordan's Seaton, commits four commitments along the offensive

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Speaker 2: line here on Saturday out of the portal and National

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Speaker 2: sign Day's two three weeks away, so we'll see if

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Speaker 2: he can flip some more.

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Speaker 3: High profile players before then.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio aer Tors Jason Martin broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: the Tireck dot com studios. Coming up, we will wrap

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Speaker 2: the college football conversation as a new Heisman Trophy winner

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Speaker 2: has been crowned. But first though, let's toss over the

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Speaker 2: news desk Steve Disager, what is trending?

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Speaker 1: Sir?

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Speaker 4: We'll get to the college football in a moment. Show Hey,

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Speaker 4: Otani today agreed to a ten year contract with the Dodgers,

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Speaker 4: where seven hundred million dollars including deferred money.

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Speaker 2: Disaga, Really, we actually just got a tweet from Sharon.

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Speaker 2: She says, if you have time, I would appreciate to

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Speaker 2: Seger explaining Otani's contract. A couple shows earlier said seventy

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Speaker 2: million a year. Steve said, no, that's not right, that's

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Speaker 2: from Sharon. Can you go into the nuance of the

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Speaker 2: contract as much.

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Speaker 4: We're actually that much money that would put the Dodgers

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Speaker 4: far over the luxury tax, the competitive balance tax, and

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Speaker 4: in order for that not to happen, for the Dodgers

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Speaker 4: to have more financial flexibility, they're deferring a lot of

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Speaker 4: the salary money, reportedly by his idea, so that the

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Speaker 4: team kind of like when Tom Brady would take less.

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Speaker 4: He didn't need the actual cash in pocket this year,

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Speaker 4: but it gave maneuverability for a roster around him. It's

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Speaker 4: that kind of thing. It doesn't mean he's not going

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Speaker 4: to get hundreds of millions total by the end of life,

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Speaker 4: but he's not going to be getting that year to

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Speaker 4: year because it's deferred salary. And again he's in on

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Speaker 4: this decision, and it's better for the team obviously, because

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Speaker 4: they already have one of the top ten pay rolls

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Speaker 4: as we talked about last hour, and they still need

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Speaker 4: a starting pitching rotation. He can't pitch next year. He

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Speaker 4: had ucl surgery in October. Otani, remember, although he was

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Speaker 4: with the Angels and therefore was on a sub five

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Speaker 4: hundred team and therefore missed the playoffs again this past year.

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Speaker 4: In the month of March, he did lead Team Japan

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Speaker 4: to the World Baseball Classic title and wound up getting

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Speaker 4: his first ever save, ending that tournament striking out his

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Speaker 4: Angels teammate Mike Trout, and Otani was named tournament MVP.

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Speaker 4: Then he led the American League in home runs, in

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Speaker 4: slugging percentage, in on base percentage, and was a unanimous MVP.

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Speaker 4: As he was in the American League a couple of

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Speaker 4: years before college football Today, Army beat Navy seventeen to

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Speaker 4: eleven in Foxborough, Massachusetts, and then tonight we found out

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Speaker 4: the vote for the Heisman Trophy. The winner is LSU

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Speaker 4: senior quarterback Jaden Daniels. He got about two thousand voting

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Speaker 4: points compared to one thousand, seven hundred or so for

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Speaker 4: Michael Pennix, junior, the Washington quarterback, and then with under

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Speaker 4: nine hundred points in the voting, Bo Nicks finished third.

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Speaker 4: The Oregon quarterback, in fact, was third place in each

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Speaker 4: of the voting regions around the country, and even more

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Speaker 4: distant fourth was Ohio State junior wide receiver Marvin Harrison junior.

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Speaker 4: As for Daniel's fifty total touchdowns this college football season,

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Speaker 4: the high in FBS what used to be known as

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Speaker 4: Division I college football, Only four SEC players had done

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Speaker 4: that in a season before, and those four also won Heismans.

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Speaker 4: Recent years, Bryce Young, Joe Burrow, and about fifteen years ago,

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Speaker 4: Cam Newton and Tim Tebow did as well. Also, this

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Speaker 4: guy a transfer, Like the other two runners up transfer quarterback,

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Speaker 4: he led the nation in long completion seventy completions of

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Speaker 4: twenty plus yards this season. So even though LSU did

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Speaker 4: go a mere nine to three, they'll be playing Wisconsin

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Speaker 4: in a bowl game Yeah, he didn't play for a

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Speaker 4: conference title, but he was just that good on paper

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Speaker 4: and wins High Trophy.

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Speaker 3: There was a couple I mean, like the Missouri game.

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Speaker 3: I remember.

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Speaker 2: Missouri remember won ten games. He basically single handed like

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Speaker 2: they went nine and three. They would have been like

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Speaker 2: seven to five if they were getting average quarterback. That

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Speaker 2: stretched through.

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Speaker 4: The Missouri game. He accounted for at least four touchdowns

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Speaker 4: in five straight games in September and October. Pennix of

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Speaker 4: Washington finished runner up by the way. Last year, he

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Speaker 4: was eighth in the Heisman voting. He's now the first

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Speaker 4: ever Washington Huskies player to finish top three in a

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Speaker 4: Heisman race. Nineteen ninety one, finishing fourth was defensive tackle

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Speaker 4: Steve Entpman quarterback Jake Browning in recent years for Washington

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Speaker 4: finished sixth oh in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Look, I've heard that name.

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Speaker 4: It would be NFL quarterback Jake brown NFL.

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Speaker 3: Star Jake Brownie up Monday Night football.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of this Monday Night, you know there are two

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Speaker 4: games this Monday Night, one of this, one of which

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Speaker 4: will be the Packers at the Giants Green Bay. Wide

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Speaker 4: receiver Christian Wattson is out for Monday due to a

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01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 4: hamstring injury. Columbus won the MLS Cup Final. By the way,

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Speaker 4: Brown's wide receiver A Mario Cooper did clear concussion protocol,

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01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 4: but Steelers linebacker TJ. Watt was placed in concussion protocol.

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Speaker 4: And we can't skip the Laker news. Tonight's winning the

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Speaker 4: final of the nd season tournament in Las Vegas, won

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Speaker 4: twenty three one oh nine over the Pacers Anthony Davis

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Speaker 4: forty one points and twenty rebounds. And we've got two

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Speaker 4: college basketball games still going on, including one on a

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Speaker 4: fass one. UC Irvin has come back to take the

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Speaker 4: lead at number twenty five San Diego State fifty to

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Speaker 4: forty eight with about six and a half minutes left

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Speaker 4: under eight minutes to go. Number seven Gonzaga only leading

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Speaker 4: at Washington sixty eight sixty six. Number one Arizona whip Wisconsin.

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Speaker 4: Number two Kansas beat Missouri, and number four Perdue defeated Alabama.

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Speaker 4: Losses for Colorado State and BYU today back to you,

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Speaker 4: thank you.

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Speaker 2: Very much, Steve Saga to Saga will rejoin us here

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Speaker 2: in just a few minutes for his extended update. It

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Speaker 2: says Fox Sports Radio air towards Jason Martin broadcasting love

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Speaker 2: from the tirech dot com Studios. Jay's a couple of

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Speaker 2: college football notes. You know one, First of all, I

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01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 2: don't know that there's a Jayden Daniels take. I mean,

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01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 2: did you have any objection to him winning the Heisman?

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01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 2: I kind of just mentioned it, but they went nine

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01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 2: to three, but you go ahead and look at you know,

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01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 2: they beat Arkansas by three, which which had finished four

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01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 2: and eight. They beat Missouri with a wild comeback. I

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01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 2: thought he was the best player in college football. I

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Speaker 2: thought he was deserving.

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Speaker 3: Did you have any fundamental issue with him with him

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Speaker 3: winning the award tonight?

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Speaker 1: No, definitely not. I agree with you one hundred percent.

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01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 1: I think he I think he earned it. I think

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Speaker 1: it's fascinating, though. I would love to see what the

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Speaker 1: ballots would have looked like if Oregon had won the

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Speaker 1: Pac twelve championship. It feels like Boennicks may have gone

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Speaker 1: from one to three because of one night. Now, maybe not.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Daniels was gonna win it anyway, and I still

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Speaker 1: don't think he would have had a qualm, but the

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Speaker 1: fact that you would have had an Oregon team that

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Speaker 1: would have then avenged its only loss at that stage

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01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,719
Speaker 1: if bo Nicks had played a good game there, considering

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01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 1: the even in the loss, he played very well against

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Speaker 1: Washington earlier in the year, I would have liked to

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Speaker 1: have seen how it shook out, But especially considering everything

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Speaker 1: that we know. Yeah, jayde Daniels, without questioning, I meane,

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Speaker 1: I wonder what LSU was without him. Quite frankly, they

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01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: might have been a five loss team without him. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he was absolutely sensational from start to finish.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were lucky enough to be on air for

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Speaker 2: that Florida game where he had like six hundred and

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01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 2: six yards of total offense I think was the final

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Speaker 2: tally Michigan. This week we got the reports, multiple reports

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Speaker 2: that essentially a contract extension is on Jim Harbaugh's desk,

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Speaker 2: five years, eleven million per year, with the stipulation that

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Speaker 2: he does not pursue NFL head coaching jobs this offseason. Reason,

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Speaker 2: you know, I've seen all the other shows talk about it.

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01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 2: Reason I haven't really brought it up. It doesn't really

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Speaker 2: feel that surprising to me. I know, there was a

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Speaker 2: moment of hesitation with the NCAA investigation, but the school,

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01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 2: it feels like, has always had his back and it's

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01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 2: always felt like Jim Harbaugh is at least going to

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Speaker 2: see what else is out there after the season, whether

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01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 2: he's offered anything, whether he takes anything. I didn't really

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01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 2: find this week's report all that interesting, but it seemed

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01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 2: like it certainly stirred up some interest from, you know,

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01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 2: people in our business. Were you surprised, given everything going

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01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,799
Speaker 2: on with Michigan football, that the offer is on the table,

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01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 2: or that Harba's yet to accept it?

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01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 1: Maybe the second part, I mean, I think that I

1454
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 1: think it just shows that Michigan is very dug in

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01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:38,600
Speaker 1: in terms of just and I don't know that it's

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01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: just covering for Harball. Obviously, it was a difficult season

1457
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 1: for Michigan when it comes to him bookending it, not

1458
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 1: being on the field, not being on the sidelines for

1459
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: his team. But it shows that Michigan buys into it.

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01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: It shows that Michigan is certainly backing their guy. They

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Speaker 1: are sticking behind him. The fact that that report comes

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01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 1: out also kind of butcher as you It makes you

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01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: feel like things are on more solid footing going into

1464
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: the college football playoff. I think that's another way to

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01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 1: look at it. It's just we want this to feel confident.

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01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 1: We want our guys, we want our players to feel confident.

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01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 1: The fact that he hasn't accepted it. Dude, he flirts

1468
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 1: with the NFL year after year after year after year.

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01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 1: Why would this year be any different. Maybe the fact

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01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 1: that he got bookended not being on the sidelines is

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Speaker 1: something he would rather not have to deal with, and

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Speaker 1: it's something in the NFL probably not going to have

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01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 1: to deal with. So I think that's another side of this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just you know, and I look at it.

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Speaker 2: You know, Listen, if you're one hundred percent happy and

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01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 2: you're not interested in anything else, then that's fine. But

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01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 2: on the opposite side, in life, if you have options,

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01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 2: I think it's your right to look into those options.

1479
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 2: And we know that this is something that's been interested,

1480
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 2: that has interested him, and so I'm not surprised frankly,

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01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 2: that it appears as though, at least as of now,

1482
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 2: and you know, there's still three weeks before the college

1483
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 2: football playoff, maybe we get some kind of final word

1484
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:07,679
Speaker 2: before then, But not surprised at all that Jim Harbaugh

1485
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 2: is at least considering, uh, you know, pushing off that

1486
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 2: extension and seeing what his options are. Again, it's good

1487
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 2: in life, to have these kinds of options, ten million

1488
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 2: plus a year options and don't blame them one bit

1489
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 2: four at least looking into them. Fox Sports Radio ertors

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01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 2: Jason Martin coming up to Sager with his extended update.

1491
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Speaker 2: We do it every week around twelve forty five Eastern time,

1492
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Speaker 2: Disaga next, all the stories you missed Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Eric Taurus, Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from thee Tiraq dot com studios and as

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Speaker 2: we do around twelve forty five Eastern every Saturday and

1496
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 2: to Sunday, want to toss it over the news desk

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Speaker 2: Steve de Sager with an extended update everything you missed

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Speaker 2: across the world of sports on a Saturday and beyond

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Speaker 2: Sega the floor.

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Speaker 4: I like how you guys were talking about the NBA

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01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 4: in season tournament and kind of feeling coerce to agree

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01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 4: that this is the greatest thing since fir spread. I

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01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 4: will say I think that comes from, at least from

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01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 4: a league office standpoint, the fact that they usually get

1505
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 4: killed in the ratings while football season is still on.

1506
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 4: And these are the exact numbers NBA tournament games on

1507
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 4: TNT and ESPN this year averaged one point five million viewers.

1508
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 4: You might say that's not that big at all. You'd

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01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 4: be correct, but it's up about twenty five percent from

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01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 4: regular NBA games one year ago. It is not the

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01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 4: kind of ratings that they get for NBA Christmas or

1512
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 4: even the opening week of the season. This year, there

1513
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 4: were multiple games two and a half to three million viewers.

1514
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 4: This is one and a half million viewers for tournament

1515
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 4: games on national TV. The Lakers semi final on Thursday

1516
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 4: from Vegas was almost two point two million, But the

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01:15:56,479 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 4: same night the NFL got ten point seven million, and

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01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 4: that was Patriots Steelers.

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01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 3: It was it was such a great compelling game, that's

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01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 3: obviously why.

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01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 4: And it was not on a channel for most of

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01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 4: the country. It's Amazon Prime. It was ten point seven million.

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01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 4: The NFL. Every Thursday night game they've had on Amazon

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01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 4: has been a double digit increase in viewership compared to

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01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 4: last year. It's just it's a cash cow. It's a

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01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 4: teugh lod league. So yeah, okay, context on the NFL

1527
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 4: NBA ratings during the NFL season. Yes, the tournament game's

1528
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 4: got better numbers than say, last year's regular old regular

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01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 4: season games, but it's not the best numbers they've gotten

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01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,440
Speaker 4: of any game this season so far, and it certainly

1531
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 4: got as typically happens on Thursday, killed by the NFL.

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01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 2: I was going to say, the good news for the

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01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 2: NBA is the NFL only has three games on Christmas

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01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 2: Day this year, so there's like a window of like

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01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 2: maybe from like ten forty five Eastern to eleven Eastern

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01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 2: there will be no NFL to compete with.

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01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 4: The NFL is taking the whole weekend this year because

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01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 4: Christmas is on a Monday. So remember they're going to

1539
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 4: have a streaming only Saturday night NFL game. Now it's

1540
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:06,759
Speaker 4: gonna be Buffalo at the Chargers, and then a regular

1541
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 4: NFL Sunday Christmas Eve and then Monday Night Football. Of course,

1542
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 4: we had the Heisman Trophy ceremony tonight. Speaking of TV ratings,

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01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 4: those have really gone in the tank in recent years

1544
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 4: for the Heisman. This used to be so much of

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01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 4: a bigger deal. I don't mean just the season and

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01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 4: who won the trophy. I mean the actual event of

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01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 4: being in New York and the ceremony, the hour and

1548
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 4: ages ago, the half hour that was televised.

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01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 2: Well, everybody knows you don't have to tune into the

1550
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 2: last five minutes. I mean I literally had to leave

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01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 2: my house at what would it have been eight forty

1552
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:41,839
Speaker 2: five Eastern to come to the studio to do this show,

1553
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 2: and they still hadn't Like they weren't even close.

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01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 4: They'd been on the air sixty minutes ESPN and on

1555
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 4: a sixty minute show theoretically had not yet announced it.

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01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 1: I mean, is it worth watching? Like, I mean, that's

1557
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 1: the thing, like I think we've we've discovered now because

1558
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 1: they have so many options, I don't need to watch that,

1559
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 1: Like I'll see I can tune in for the speech,

1560
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 1: or I can see the speech later on YouTube.

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01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,440
Speaker 4: I will say, about half hour of it is entertaining

1562
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 4: some of the pre done pieces of the stories of

1563
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 4: these guys. So I'm not saying it's a worthless hour.

1564
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 4: It just doesn't need to be seventy minutes, which is

1565
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 4: what it was tonight. So last year we had a

1566
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 4: usc quarterback winning the Heisman Trophy, Caleb Williams, and ESPN

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01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 4: got one point sixty five million viewers, just about the

1568
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 4: worst rating the Heisman ceremony has ever gotten. In other words,

1569
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 4: only slightly above what the NBA tournament games have gotten.

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01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 4: On TNT and ESPN. Well, a Heisman winner was LSU

1571
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 4: senior quarterback Jaden Daniels. You guys properly talked about the

1572
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 4: phenomenal season. He had you reference that November game against

1573
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 4: the Florida Gators and it was six hundred and six

1574
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 4: totally are that's just astounding to say out loud. He

1575
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 4: became the first player in FBS history to in a

1576
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 4: single game have not just three hundred and fifty yards passing,

1577
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 4: but two hundred yards rushing as well, same game. And

1578
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 4: so for his career, and this was a five year

1579
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 4: college career, three at Arizona State, then transferring for the

1580
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 4: last two at LSU. For his career, he becomes the

1581
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 4: first player in FBS history with twelve thousand career passing

1582
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 4: yards three thousand career rushing yards. And yes, Washington's Michael

1583
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 4: Pennox was second, finishing a distant third overall Oregon senior

1584
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 4: quarterback Bo Nix. He was third in each voting region

1585
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 4: in fact, but bo Nicks had forty touchdown passes and

1586
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 4: only three interceptions the entire season, Wow, and seventy seven

1587
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 4: percent completions for a season. Over four thousand yards passing

1588
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,799
Speaker 4: for him Pennix over four thousand yards passing again. Pennix

1589
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 4: transfer from Indiana, Knicks transfer from Auburn, Daniels from.

1590
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:46,520
Speaker 1: ASU and join Gabriel headed all Oregon.

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01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 4: For one more year. Yeah, as they go to the

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01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 4: Big ten.

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01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 7: Unbelievable.

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01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:53,160
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Speaker 3: Coming up, we.

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Speaker 2: Talked more Dodgers Otani, Plus we preview a busy weekend

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, do you want to do the Sean

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01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 2: McDermott text right now?

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01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

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01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,839
Speaker 2: Why don't we wrap the segment with McDermott because obviously

1610
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 2: it will lead into our previews at about one twenty

1611
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:45,839
Speaker 2: Eastern time of the Bills game against Kansas City, amongst

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01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 2: many others. So we'll get to that in about five

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01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 2: or six minutes. But let's start with the news of

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01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 2: the day. Besides, of course, the Lakers winning the first

1615
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 2: ever nd season tournament, I'm of course talking about the

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01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 2: large contract in North American sports history, maybe the whole

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01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 2: world's history. I don't know what's going on. I've heard

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01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 2: differing things. The passing said whatever, but it doesn't matter.

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01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,679
Speaker 2: Seven hundred million is a lot of money. Okay, seven

1620
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 2: hundred million, ten year deal. Show Heyo Tani with the

1621
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Dodgers that de Seger told you last hour.

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01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 3: Much of it is deferred.

1623
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 2: We'll probably get some details on that coming up, but

1624
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 2: you know, deferred so that the team can spend money

1625
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 2: in other places. But at the end of the day,

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01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:38,679
Speaker 2: this is the story, show Heyo Tani. Seven hundred million

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01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:42,719
Speaker 2: dollars over ten years. He is a Los Angeles Dodger,

1628
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:47,600
Speaker 2: third MVP somewhere else to come to Los Angeles in

1629
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 2: recent years, obviously joining Mookie Betts and Freddie Freeman.

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01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 3: Crazy, it's just a crazy number.

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01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 2: I mean, it's still like you know, and it's crazy

1632
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:58,600
Speaker 2: jays Be because and I know we talked about this

1633
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 2: in hour one. By the way, if you missed that conversation.

1634
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 2: Make sure to go back down with the podcast. But

1635
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 2: I bring it up because I know that during the

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01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:11,639
Speaker 2: spring when Otani prior to his second elbow injury, which

1637
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,720
Speaker 2: is obviously led to his second surgery, I know we

1638
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 2: were talking about Okay, like you know, an elite position

1639
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 2: player gets about thirty five million a year, an elite

1640
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 2: pitcher gets about thirty five million a year. You know

1641
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 2: what could it be a seven hundred million? Could it

1642
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 2: be seventy million a year? Well, it happened, And I

1643
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 2: know he's not gonna technically make seventy million a year,

1644
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 2: but a ten year seven hundred It just it is

1645
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 2: so crazy to think about. Jason, where were you? What'd

1646
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 2: you think when? When when that news officially became official?

1647
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 2: I think it was about three o'clock or so Eastern

1648
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:47,759
Speaker 2: time today.

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01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 1: I mean, in the number itself just makes your eyes water.

1650
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:58,599
Speaker 1: It's just such absurd money. Like the only other thing

1651
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 1: that show, hey, Otani, maybe he could have done to

1652
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 1: get seven hundred million dollars, and he probably could have

1653
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 1: done it in about half the time, is go play

1654
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:09,600
Speaker 1: for live. Sure, that's about the only other thing on

1655
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 1: earth that he could have done. But and we've talked

1656
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 1: about this before. We talked about in relation to Albert

1657
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: pool Wols and a number of other players. These long

1658
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 1: these long like ten year deals, there's always big time issues.

1659
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 1: It never tends to work out. But if I were

1660
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 1: to tell you that if it worked out financially to

1661
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 1: where they'd already recoup everything and then some within two

1662
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 1: years because of how marketable O'tani is and because of

1663
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 1: what he's going to mean to them, and they probably,

1664
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're the favorites. Let's say they win

1665
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: a championship, maybe they make it to a couple of

1666
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 1: World Series, maybe they even win a couple of championships

1667
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 1: over the first half of this deal, and they've recouped

1668
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 1: all the money. What's the issue here? Like that's that's

1669
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 1: the circumstance that we live in. Is baseball is completely

1670
01:23:57,560 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 1: a different universe. The way the contracts are doled out,

1671
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 1: the way that they can spread this out over twenty

1672
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 1: five or thirty years, even if they wanted to because

1673
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: of the deferments. We don't know the specifics of it,

1674
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 1: but we know that Otani asked for the deferments, according

1675
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:14,759
Speaker 1: to multiple reports, so that they could feel a competitive

1676
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 1: team and go out and get more guys to pair

1677
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 1: with Moogie Betts and Freddie Freeman and of course show

1678
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 1: hey Otani. What they're going to have to do is

1679
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 1: bolster the pitching staff, because that's what we've seen. It

1680
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how good the batting is, You've got to

1681
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 1: be able to pitch if you want to win a

1682
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 1: World Series. I mean, look at I mean, there was

1683
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 1: at least a little bit of a smattering that the

1684
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 1: Braves were in the mix. I never thought it would happen.

1685
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 1: I didn't think it made any sense. I think that

1686
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 1: my team needed him quite frankly, even though everybody would

1687
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 1: probably like to have the guy. But I mean, our

1688
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 1: roster last year was historically great in terms of what

1689
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 1: they did offensively. What happened to him in the playoffs, well,

1690
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 1: they ran into a hot team that beat them, and

1691
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 1: that could continue to happen here. So I look at it,

1692
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 1: and it's yes, the number makes my eyes water, But

1693
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 1: at the same time, I can see why you do it.

1694
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 1: If you're the Dodgers, it's probably going to be fine

1695
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 1: financially for you, and you've set yourself up to be

1696
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 1: the maybe as globally relevant as any team in any

1697
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:18,839
Speaker 1: sport in the United States.

1698
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 3: That's really interesting globally relevant. I like that term. And

1699
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 3: by the way, I think you're accurate.

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01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 2: I think the thing that stands out to me, you know,

1701
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 2: first of all, as far as the money is concerned,

1702
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 2: like my stance on other people spending money, is you

1703
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 2: spend it however the heck you want.

1704
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 3: You know, if it's.

1705
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 2: Seventy seven million dollars to tell Jimbo Fisher not to

1706
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 2: coach my football team anymore.

1707
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 3: Well, it ain't my money. You do whatever.

1708
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 2: You spend your money however you want, you know, And

1709
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 2: it's the same here. You know, it's it's crazy, but

1710
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 2: it's also again I I just you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just I have no problem with the money aspect.

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01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 2: What I will say as far as everything else is

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01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 2: concerned is I think the thing that stands out to me,

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01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 2: And we talked about a little bit in an hour

1715
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:06,919
Speaker 2: one and again people could go back and download the podcast.

1716
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 2: What it speaks to me is the Dodgers, Uh, the

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01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 2: Dodgers trainer or doctor or whomever was the one that

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01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 2: performed the surgery on his elbow recently. It was his

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01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 2: second elbow surgery, and you and I talked about it

1720
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 2: at the time. All the reporting from the experts who

1721
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 2: were talking to doctors was, Hey, that second elbow surgery,

1722
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 2: it's a lot harder to recover from than the first one. Obviously,

1723
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 2: you know, Otani pitched an elite level post Tommy John

1724
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:35,719
Speaker 2: surgery a few years back.

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01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 3: So why I bring it.

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01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 4: Up Neil Elatrage, By the way, is that doctor he

1727
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:43,799
Speaker 4: did the Kobe Bryant surgery after the Achilles. He's operated

1728
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 4: on Tom Brady and Otani and plenty of others.

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01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 2: Yes, And so I just it stands out to me

1730
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 2: that the Dodgers obviously have the best intel you could

1731
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 2: possibly have that they believe that he is going to

1732
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 2: one day come back to form as a cher, which

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01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 2: I think is the most interesting part of this. And

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01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 2: then from there, I just I think the fastest the

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01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 2: second fascinating part is the part we talked about an

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01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 2: hour one, Jason, which is is this good or bad

1737
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 2: for Major League Baseball? I think it's good. Let me

1738
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 2: ask you a question as kind of a neutral observer.

1739
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 2: And we talked about this a little bit in hour one.

1740
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:20,640
Speaker 2: You know, we talked about the idea of is it

1741
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 2: bad for baseball. All these star players, the payroll, the

1742
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 2: amount of money, and again not all of it is

1743
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 2: obviously going to be uh you know, is going to

1744
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 2: be paid out over the ten years that Otani will

1745
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 2: be under contract. But I remember, and maybe it was

1746
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 2: just baseball was bigger. Maybe it was because I lived

1747
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 2: in the Northeast, but it just felt like there was

1748
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 2: real anger with the Yankees when they just got guy

1749
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 2: after guy after guy. Is the anger the same for

1750
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 2: the Dodgers? I mean, was it maybe it is? Was

1751
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 2: it because it was the Yankees? Was it because it

1752
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 2: was George Steinberner at the time. Was it because the

1753
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 2: Yankees already had multiple World championships? And now they're bringing

1754
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 2: in an a Rod It into Gary Sheffield, they're bringing

1755
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 2: into whoever it was in that moment.

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01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 3: I feel like it's big.

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01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 2: But I don't feel like the hate for the Dodgers

1758
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 2: has yet reached the level of the Yankees in the

1759
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 2: nineties into the early two thousands, am I But they're

1760
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 2: spending the same way.

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01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 3: Do you feel the same way, Jason?

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01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:21,959
Speaker 1: I think there's a difference. And I think you actually

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01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 1: said it in the middle of what you were saying

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01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 1: just now and that is, it was the championships that

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01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:31,639
Speaker 1: they had already won before they continued paying to get

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01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 1: better and better and more talent and more talent and

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01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 1: more talent. That's where the evil Empire thing came from.

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01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 1: It was they were winning with home grown guys, with

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01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:41,600
Speaker 1: guys that they weren't paying a ton of money, the

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01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:43,839
Speaker 1: Paul O'Neals of the world. And of course they drafted

1771
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 1: well and their farm system was solid, and then they

1772
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 1: went out and sprung for it. The difference here is

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01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 1: the Dodgers have been doing this for a while, but

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01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 1: it hadn't paid that many dividends. When it comes to

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01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 1: World Series, they have the one, but they have been

1776
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: kind of sad sacks. You've gotten to the playoffs, you've

1777
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 1: found a way to beat them, other teams have found

1778
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 1: a way to knock them out, and so they haven't

1779
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 1: been dominant enough in the postseason to create that same

1780
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 1: level of vitriol. I think this is probably closer to

1781
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant going to Golden State. But Golden State have

1782
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 1: more success than have the Dodgers, and it's a different

1783
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 1: sport obviously, but I think that's probably I'd look at

1784
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 1: it more like that it's not a team that's been

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01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 1: so dominant despite the fact they've always been willing to

1786
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: spend like crazy. Now, if they go win two or

1787
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 1: three and then they go and try to grab a

1788
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 1: Kunya or try to grab somebody else like that, then

1789
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 1: we can have this conversation. But I just don't think

1790
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:45,680
Speaker 1: they've been good enough in the postseason and stacked up

1791
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 1: championships to where it's like, all right enough already.

1792
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's totally fair because, like you said,

1793
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 2: that early part of the Yankees dynasty was largely homegrown,

1794
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 2: and then they win all these championships and again they

1795
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,640
Speaker 2: go out and get the Roger Clemens, eventually the a

1796
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 2: Rin the guys like that.

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01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 3: So I think it's worth noting. Jason, you mentioned at

1798
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:04,679
Speaker 3: the top of the segment.

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01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:07,640
Speaker 2: You know, as we transition back to the NFL a

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01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 2: busy week fourteen two megas showdowns that we're gonna get

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01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 2: to in the upcoming segment. Obviously, Dallas and Philly is

1802
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 2: one which we will certainly talk about, but I do

1803
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 2: want to quickly just hit on what was obviously a

1804
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 2: very busy week for the Buffalo Bills. Buffalo had a

1805
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 2: buy off of that kind of epic game with Philadelphia

1806
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago. And I bring it up because,

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01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 2: you know, coming out of the bye preparing for Kansas

1808
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 2: City this week, a very detailed report. Tyler Dunn previously

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01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:41,679
Speaker 2: covered the Buffalo Bills for one of the local papers.

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01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 2: Now he does his own thing, go TD dot com.

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01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:48,599
Speaker 2: I believe is the sub sect there, but Tyler done

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01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 2: very credible reporter puts out a three part series. The

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01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 2: big story that came out of it was the obviously

1814
01:30:56,600 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 2: the quote unquote Sean McDermott nine to eleven speed. We

1815
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 2: don't have to get into it, but he basically referenced

1816
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 2: nine to eleven. He was trying to use nine to

1817
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 2: eleven as like a motivational tactic a few years back.

1818
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 2: Why I bring it up is because that was part

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01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 2: of a bigger piece from a lot of people both

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01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 2: inside that building and people that have been around the

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01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 2: organization that are no longer there. And I bring it

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01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 2: up because it felt like the timing of that piece.

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01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 2: With the Bills six and six, their season basically gets

1824
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 2: made or broken this week, and if they lose this game,

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01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 2: it's very hard to see them making the playoffs. Thought

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01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:40,559
Speaker 2: the timing was what was not unronic on the entire

1827
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott narrative, what did you make of all the

1828
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 2: news out of Buffalo this week?

1829
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 1: Does the exact same. I don't think this story comes

1830
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 1: out if they're ten and two right now. I just don't.

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01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 1: And look, I've had I've spoken to Tie I don't know,

1832
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 1: fifteen times somewhere in that neighborhood, probably in the last

1833
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 1: handful of years. He's somebody that when TV or go

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01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 1: on TV dot com began, we had him on early on,

1835
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 1: and of course he was the guy that broke the

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01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:12,599
Speaker 1: huge xpos and the Green Bay Packers, and when that

1837
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 1: came out, that was starting to crumble. Also, that wasn't

1838
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:19,639
Speaker 1: happening when Aaron Rodgers had him in the Super Bowl,

1839
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 1: Like this was when we were starting to see a

1840
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 1: deterioration and it felt like the hype had exceeded what

1841
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 1: we were seeing on the field. It's something was wrong,

1842
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 1: and ty Dunn has no problem going in and basically

1843
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 1: just drawing that out, extracting it out, and that's what

1844
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 1: he's done, and that's what he's done in Buffalo where

1845
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 1: he lives now. And I don't think that Look again,

1846
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 1: any interviews that I've had with him through the years,

1847
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 1: especially in his time in Buffalo. He's been very, very

1848
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 1: high on the Buffalo Bills. I think he sees what

1849
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 1: we have seen and what we talked about going into

1850
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 1: the year. The person with the most pressure on them

1851
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 1: entering this season in the NFL with Sean McDermott, it

1852
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 1: wasn't Josh Allen. It was Sean McDermott. Because Allen's gonna

1853
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 1: stick around. We know Alan's good even through all this,

1854
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's been playing excellent football, but something else just

1855
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:17,880
Speaker 1: hasn't been there. This McDermott story, like this is not like, oh,

1856
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 1: you fire this guy immediately because of you know this

1857
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 1: comment that he made four years ago, and all this

1858
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 1: was the comment dumb, absolutely inexcusably stupid, like just just

1859
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 1: unconscionably dumb. And I think he's admitted as much. He

1860
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 1: realizes he made that mistake. Problem is Sean mcdermot's not

1861
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 1: whinning super bowls. He's not getting to super Bowls, and

1862
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 1: that team looks like it should have already been there

1863
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 1: a couple of times, and he's going to be the

1864
01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 1: one that is right there on that guillotine. And I

1865
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 1: think that this is the first this is the first

1866
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:50,639
Speaker 1: shot that seems like it's coming from inside the car,

1867
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like the killer is inside

1868
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 1: the house, so to speak, like something is happening inside

1869
01:33:56,000 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 1: the Bill's organization where whatever confidence did exist, and Sean

1870
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 1: McDermott has eroded and I don't think that it's gotten

1871
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 1: better for him since Ken Dorsey was let go.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent.

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01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 2: And and you know, it's so funny because this has

1874
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 2: kind of been my take all off since the Stefan

1875
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 2: Diggs blow up against the Brown the Bengals excuse me

1876
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 2: in the playoffs last year. Is there's something not right

1877
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:21,799
Speaker 2: at a certain point.

1878
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 3: It's not all a.

1879
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 2: Big coincidence, and it's bled into this year. And it

1880
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 2: was funny because they gave him the extension in the

1881
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 2: offseason and it was very clear that that was meant

1882
01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 2: to hopefully appease and you know, quiet some of the noise,

1883
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 2: and it really didn't. And it's obviously bled over into

1884
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 2: this year. I understand the schedule has been brutal. I

1885
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 2: understand the bye was late, but to your point, you

1886
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 2: know Ken, you know, Ken Dorsey was the fall guy

1887
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:50,720
Speaker 2: this year. Leslie Fraser resigns under weird circumstances. That was

1888
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 2: another piece of part of it that came out of

1889
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 2: that Tie Dunn story was that you know that that

1890
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:58,599
Speaker 2: infamous drive, the thirteen second drive from the Kansas City

1891
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:02,680
Speaker 2: Chiefs Sean mcderbotto over play calling duties you know on

1892
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 2: that drive, And obviously Leslie Fraser stuck around for another year.

1893
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 2: But again, when when a respected defensive coordinator says I'm

1894
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 2: taking off a year, it certainly raised some eyebrows. So

1895
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 2: long story short, I tend to agree timing is not coincidental. Uh.

1896
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 3: You know again, I think this week is essentially must win.

1897
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 2: And again it's basically like, dude, you got to you

1898
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 2: gotta get some stuff figured out here in a hurry.

1899
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 2: Uh or it's you know, it's not gonna be very good.

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Speaker 2: I just saw this on Twitter. This is very interesting.

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01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 2: So Oregon football, Okay, obviously bo Nix was a Heisman

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01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:41,679
Speaker 2: Trophy finalists. Today twenty nineteen, they won the Pac twelve.

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01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:44,760
Speaker 2: That was Justin Herbert's last year at Oregon. There are

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01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 2: only two losses that year, to Auburn quarterback by bo

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Speaker 2: Nix and to Arizona State quarterback by Jaden Daniels, both

1922
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 2: Heisman finalists. I don't know if that means anything. I

1923
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 2: just found that very weird and interesting. So justin her

1924
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:03,559
Speaker 2: his final two college losses were to two quarterbacks who

1925
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 2: were at Heisman finalists today. Does that Does that stat

1926
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 2: do anything for you at all?

1927
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 3: Jason? That is that interesting to you in any way,

1928
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:10,679
Speaker 3: shape or form.

1929
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty interesting. Yeah, I mean that's just a

1930
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,920
Speaker 1: good tidbit. There's nothing I mean, that's that's just that's

1931
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:19,120
Speaker 1: that almost feels like a trivial pursuit answer. But I'm

1932
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 1: a sucker for those, so yeah, good with that.

1933
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 2: I didn't really think about the fact that, Yeah, I

1934
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 2: guess that year they in theory could have made the

1935
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 2: playoff if it wasn't for bow Nicks actually beating them

1936
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 2: in the season opener.

1937
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 3: But we got to get back to the NFL.

1938
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 2: We just talked about Sean McDermott and it's time to

1939
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:39,240
Speaker 2: preview a busy week fourteen. Lorena give us a little music,

1940
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 2: and Pat, I think we should probably start with the

1941
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:44,879
Speaker 2: team that we just talked about, the Buffalo Bills.

1942
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 3: They are in Casey. I don't mean to steal your thunder,

1943
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:49,120
Speaker 3: but that's probably where we're gonna start, right.

1944
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:51,840
Speaker 7: Oh, that is definitely where we are starting tonight.

1945
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 3: Boys.

1946
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:56,200
Speaker 7: We got the Buffalo Bills taking on the Kansas City Chiefs,

1947
01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 7: and guys, Kansas City is home for this one and

1948
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 7: I'll even go with this with the line Kansas City

1949
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 7: is the favorite by one point. Aaron starts off, what

1950
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:11,960
Speaker 7: are you feeling. I don't know if I'm gonna look

1951
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:12,919
Speaker 7: stupid tomorrow.

1952
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I I think Buffalo wins and it's not like, oh,

1953
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:20,760
Speaker 2: the guy's falling.

1954
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 3: Kansas City's the worst team in the world. I get that.

1955
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:25,559
Speaker 2: I know they've lost three or five or whatever it is,

1956
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 2: but I do think this is like a Circle the

1957
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:32,719
Speaker 2: Wagons game where even if the building doesn't really believe

1958
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:35,599
Speaker 2: in Sean McDermott, they're off of a bye. They were

1959
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 2: super competitive frankly outplayed the Philadelphia Eagles two weeks ago.

1960
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 2: If this was Week fourteen and Buffalo had their bye

1961
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 2: in week six, I would feel differently. But with the bye,

1962
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:51,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Buffalo and I'll probably look really stupid

1963
01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:52,160
Speaker 2: come tomorrow night.

1964
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:55,639
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean that's a true statement about them coming

1965
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 1: off the bye and that this is what's happening to

1966
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Dreeanbay was coming off of ten days rest

1967
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:07,799
Speaker 1: this past week. Now you've got Buffalo coming off of bye.

1968
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 1: Then you get New England off of ten day rest

1969
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:12,720
Speaker 1: and the Raiders off an eleven day rest. They've got

1970
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:15,560
Speaker 1: four in a row where teams are coming off extended

1971
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:18,280
Speaker 1: rest against them. The thing is, is it going to

1972
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 1: be a distraction or a galvanizing force the whole McDermott

1973
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 1: controversy for this week, and how angry are the Chiefs

1974
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 1: about the no call on the PI that you've seen

1975
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:30,840
Speaker 1: an article after article written over the past few days

1976
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 1: where the officials are now under heavy scrutiny from the

1977
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:37,720
Speaker 1: league because of that call was about as bad as

1978
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:40,760
Speaker 1: anything you've seen since. I think Dean Blandinho said, that's

1979
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:44,800
Speaker 1: the worst most engregious no call since the Rams Saints

1980
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:49,760
Speaker 1: Wow incident years ago. So what are they thinking? They

1981
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 1: got to win at some point? This is at home.

1982
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:55,800
Speaker 1: This is a game where the Chiefs should win this

1983
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 1: football game. You know what, I'm with you. I think

1984
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:00,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo will win it as well. I don't know that

1985
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 1: it's a galvanizing thing, but I do think it's a

1986
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 1: must win for Buffalo, and so I think they're gonna

1987
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:06,479
Speaker 1: come in hungry really quick.

1988
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 3: One last thing, pat before we get to it.

1989
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:10,680
Speaker 2: I think the other thing, too, Jason, is like, they

1990
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 2: might not like Sean McDermott, but these are professionals like

1991
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 2: there is a level of professional pride. This is a

1992
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:21,639
Speaker 2: big rival to them. I don't know if Casey views

1993
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:23,120
Speaker 2: them as a rival. I think that's part of it

1994
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 2: as well. Pat, what's the next game? All right, guys?

1995
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 7: I would be more excited for this one since one

1996
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 7: of these is my favorite teams. But a last here

1997
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 7: we are. We have my Seattle Seahawks taking on the

1998
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:39,559
Speaker 7: San Francisco forty nine ers, and I won't lie to you.

1999
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 7: I just looked at the line about a good five

2000
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 7: minutes ago and I'm currently weeping right now. San Francisco

2001
01:40:45,479 --> 01:40:48,680
Speaker 7: is home and you better believe they are favored. I'm

2002
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 7: at thirteen and a half points. Jason, do you want

2003
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 7: to give me some love.

2004
01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 1: Here or no? Look, I think Seat's a pretty good

2005
01:40:55,439 --> 01:40:57,880
Speaker 1: football team, and I thought that was a really enjoyable

2006
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:01,960
Speaker 1: Thursday night game last week with Dallas that they lost

2007
01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 1: and their defense couldn't stop anything. I think San Francisco

2008
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:08,680
Speaker 1: is the best team in football. I've said in preseason

2009
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:11,360
Speaker 1: they would be the representative of the NFC in the

2010
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, barring injury. Still holding to that and feeling

2011
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:17,200
Speaker 1: awfully good about it. I just don't think this is

2012
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:19,559
Speaker 1: the time for Seattle like this is a bad time

2013
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:22,439
Speaker 1: to be running into that football team because right now

2014
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:24,639
Speaker 1: they are the class of the NFL.

2015
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 3: Give me San fran Yeah, I'll be quick on this.

2016
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:33,360
Speaker 2: I think Seattle played great two Thursdays ago, as Jason

2017
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 2: just said, And I think San Francisco it can be

2018
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:38,720
Speaker 2: a little bit of a letdown just because of the

2019
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:42,040
Speaker 2: nature of having to go to Philadelphia getting the win,

2020
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 2: you know, avenging last year's playoff loss all that stuff.

2021
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 2: So I think San Francisco wins, but I do think

2022
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:52,240
Speaker 2: it's close and competitive. Tell you what, Pat will bring

2023
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 2: you back in just a few moments. Got to preview

2024
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 2: that other Mega showdown tomorrow night before we do, though,

2025
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 2: Let's toss it over the news desk final time this evening,

2026
01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:03,879
Speaker 2: Steve you Seger, what is trending?

2027
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 5: Well?

2028
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:06,759
Speaker 4: The NBA held its final of the n Season Tournament

2029
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 4: in Vegas tonight. Lakers beat Indiana in the championship game

2030
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 4: one twenty three, one oh nine. Are you guys aware

2031
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:15,519
Speaker 4: that tonight's championship game is the only tournament game that

2032
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:18,879
Speaker 4: does not count toward the regular season records or the stats.

2033
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 4: So it's kind of like when we get April and

2034
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:24,920
Speaker 4: that play in tournament that that somehow doesn't count either.

2035
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:28,479
Speaker 4: Can we just say out loud to the NBA, can

2036
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:31,799
Speaker 4: you fix this please? Because I guarantee years from now

2037
01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:34,719
Speaker 4: we will be looking back and saying, boy, that was stupid.

2038
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:38,200
Speaker 4: Kind of like college football didn't used to count bolstats,

2039
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:40,280
Speaker 4: and so a few years ago we used to hear, hey,

2040
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 4: this current running back is now the all time leading rusher,

2041
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 4: but hey, you know that guy, none of his bowlstats

2042
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 4: counted because for some reason, they didn't count those stats

2043
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 4: in the old days.

2044
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:51,679
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, is this like when Louisville gets

2045
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:54,639
Speaker 2: its postseason banner brought down and it's like we all

2046
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:56,920
Speaker 2: watch the games and we know it happened, but it's like,

2047
01:42:57,240 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 2: it's like it by the way, that does I guess

2048
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 2: shoot the theory down that Lebron was wanting to win

2049
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 2: this because it's kind of another you know, mark on

2050
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 2: his resume. It's like, well, apparently it's not on his resume.

2051
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 2: Apparently the semifinal went over New Orleans. We'll all remember

2052
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:12,120
Speaker 2: that forever, but this is the final today.

2053
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 1: Nope.

2054
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 4: Never, the absolute dominance from Anthony Davis never occurred. Actually,

2055
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:19,680
Speaker 4: he theoretically had forty one points and twenty rebounds, but

2056
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:22,680
Speaker 4: it was written down in disappearing ink Lebron James, the

2057
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 4: tournament MVP, had twenty four points tonight and with the

2058
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:29,240
Speaker 4: recent flu. Nonetheless, LA's Austin Reeves had twenty eight points

2059
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 4: in twenty eight minutes off the bench. Lakers beat the Pacers.

2060
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 4: Indiana star Tyrese Halliburton did have twenty points eleven assists

2061
01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 4: in the loss. This was the only NBA game tonight.

2062
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:41,759
Speaker 4: There are no NBA games tomorrow, and then the league

2063
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:44,800
Speaker 4: has thirteen games on the Monday night schedule. As for

2064
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:47,840
Speaker 4: late night college basketball on Fox TV, we had number

2065
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 4: eight Marquette ripping Notre Dames seventy eight to fifty nine.

2066
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:53,679
Speaker 4: Marquette was up seventeen to nothing after the first seven minutes,

2067
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:56,599
Speaker 4: and then on FS one, number twenty five San Diego

2068
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:59,120
Speaker 4: State with a late bucket beat U C Irvine sixty three,

2069
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:03,040
Speaker 4: sixty two. Washington at home has beaten number seven Gonzaga

2070
01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:07,920
Speaker 4: seventy eight, seventy three, Villanova beat Ucla and Philadelphia Number one.

2071
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:11,840
Speaker 4: Arizona at home dominated number twenty three Wisconsin, Number two,

2072
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:16,960
Speaker 4: Kansas over Missouri in Toronto. Number four Perdue defeated Alabama.

2073
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:20,640
Speaker 4: Also Saint Mary's upset number thirteen Colorado State, and in

2074
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:26,160
Speaker 4: hoops Utah beat number fourteen byu NHL wins for Philadelphia

2075
01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:28,679
Speaker 4: and the Islanders, who beat the LA Kings in overtime

2076
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 4: three to two, notable because LA was eleven and zero

2077
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:34,920
Speaker 4: on the road to start the season. Sho Heeo Tani

2078
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:38,560
Speaker 4: agreed to a ten year contract with the Los Angeles

2079
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:43,439
Speaker 4: Dodgers worth seven hundred million dollars including deferred money. It's

2080
01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:46,480
Speaker 4: believed to be the largest deal in sports history globally.

2081
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:50,639
Speaker 4: If you're talking total money, that's more than the Saudi

2082
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:53,799
Speaker 4: money they gave to the European soccer players recently, for example,

2083
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:56,599
Speaker 4: those weren't ten year deals. Same with the money Messi

2084
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:59,439
Speaker 4: got from Barcelona, hardly a ten year deal. But as

2085
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:02,679
Speaker 4: far as total money, yeah, the contract, according to MLB

2086
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 4: dot Com, does contain a lot of deferred salary to

2087
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:09,560
Speaker 4: allow the Dodgers more financial flexibility. Otani was voted unanimously

2088
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 4: ALMVP twice in the last three years. He not only

2089
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 4: led the league in homers last year, he had twenty

2090
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:17,960
Speaker 4: steals and batted over three hundred, and he doesn't turn

2091
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:21,160
Speaker 4: thirty until next summer. In six seasons with the Angels,

2092
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 4: he never appeared in the postseason and the team always

2093
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 4: finished with a losing record. So the question is this

2094
01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:29,720
Speaker 4: signing good for baseball? Well, getting Otani in the playoffs

2095
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:32,559
Speaker 4: is with the Dodgers or Phillies or Braves or somebody

2096
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:35,880
Speaker 4: that's better. But what's bad for baseball is that it's

2097
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:39,480
Speaker 4: a league with no salary cap, and so the Dodgers,

2098
01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:42,000
Speaker 4: well not even the Dodgers, just pick any team in

2099
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:44,400
Speaker 4: a major city has more money to spend than Seattle,

2100
01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:47,519
Speaker 4: for example. And the Dodgers do have their own channel,

2101
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:51,839
Speaker 4: which means they make very roughly speaking, a million dollars

2102
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 4: a game every game every year for a twenty five

2103
01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:59,720
Speaker 4: year contract with the TV network spectrum that they have,

2104
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:02,680
Speaker 4: so the Dodgers can pay for most of their payroll

2105
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:07,679
Speaker 4: on other seasons just from the TV money before they

2106
01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:11,720
Speaker 4: sell a ticket. Plus, Otani is deferring salaries so the

2107
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:15,400
Speaker 4: Dodgers can avoid the luxury tags. Keep in mind, Otani

2108
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:18,640
Speaker 4: cannot pitch next year after UCL surgery at October, so

2109
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:21,280
Speaker 4: he'll be the Dodgers DH and he did average ninety

2110
01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:24,360
Speaker 4: seven RBI's last three seasons. Designated hit her as a

2111
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:26,519
Speaker 4: position that did not exist in the National League when

2112
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 4: Otani first came to the Major League, so going to

2113
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 4: the Dodgers then was not at all realistic. Columbus won

2114
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:35,559
Speaker 4: the MLS Cup Final. Browns wide receiver Amari Cooper cleared

2115
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 4: concussion protocol. Browns did not name a starting quarterback against

2116
01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:42,000
Speaker 4: the Jaguars, by the way Jacksonville had said, Trevor Lawrence

2117
01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:44,799
Speaker 4: a game time decision with the high ankle. Spring Rams

2118
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 4: elevated kicker Mason Crosby from their practice squad. Rams at Ravens.

2119
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 4: Packers wide receiver Christian Watson out for Monday night at

2120
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 4: the Giants with a hamstring injury. Aaron Jones, running back

2121
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 4: is questionable. Buffalo activated tight end Dawson Knox, Kansas City

2122
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 4: activated linebacker Nick Bolton off ir Bill's at KC Tomorrow.

2123
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:06,639
Speaker 4: Chiefs running back Isaiah Pachecko out Sunday with a shoulder injury.

2124
01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:10,000
Speaker 4: Seattle quarterback Gino Smith questionable with a groin injury, a

2125
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:12,559
Speaker 4: true game time decision after he was heard in practice

2126
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 4: this week, Seattle's at San Francisco, and Steelers linebacker TJ.

2127
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 4: Watt was placed in concussion protocol. A reminder of the

2128
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:21,760
Speaker 4: first Bowl games in college football are next Saturday, six

2129
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:24,760
Speaker 4: of them including UCLA Boys. He stayed in the La

2130
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:28,040
Speaker 4: Bowl in the Rams Stadium. Oregon gets transfer quarterback Dylan

2131
01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:30,880
Speaker 4: Gabriel from Oklahoma for next season, his final season a

2132
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 4: college football Today in Foxboro, Massachusetts, Army over Navy seventeen

2133
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:37,720
Speaker 4: to eleven. Army at the end stop to fourth and

2134
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:40,719
Speaker 4: goal quarterback sneak from the two and the Heisman Trophy

2135
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Speaker 4: winner is LSU senior QB Jaden Daniels, beating out Washington

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Speaker 4: quarterback Michael Pennox. Finishing third was the Oregon quarterback Bo Knicks.

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Speaker 4: Daniels is the first player since Lamar Jackson twenty sixteen

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Speaker 4: to win the Heisman playing on a team that did

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Speaker 4: not play for its conference championship. But here we've got

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Speaker 4: yet another quarterback, in fact, fifth in the last seven

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Speaker 4: seasons to win the Heisman, a quarterback after transferring Caleb

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Speaker 4: Williams to USC last year for example.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve Singer, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday eron Torres, Jason Martin. We

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Speaker 2: are broadcasting live from thee Tyreck dot Com studios. Tell

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01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 2: you what LRADA give us a little bit more music,

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01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:20,719
Speaker 2: and Pat give us.

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Speaker 3: The next game.

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Speaker 7: All right, boys, we are going back into the NFC,

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Speaker 7: and boys, this one a slugfest. Indeed, we got Philadelphia

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Speaker 7: taking on Dallas Eagles Cowboys Round two. Dallas is home

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Speaker 7: on this one, and since they are the home team

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Speaker 7: and this is a tightly close one, Dallas has actually

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Speaker 7: favored three and a half points. Aaron, what are you

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01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:49,040
Speaker 7: feeling with this one? Really quick, Jason before I make

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01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:54,479
Speaker 7: my pick. I know, like what they're doing is awesome.

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Speaker 7: We reference a Thursday night game. Dak would be my

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Speaker 7: personal MVP if the ended today, but it doesn't.

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: I also like, like, yes, Dallas in theory is is

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Speaker 2: a you know, right up there in the conversation for

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl contender. But between the fact that they're

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys and something always goes wrong, and I mean

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Speaker 2: part of it is to what happened in San Francisco

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Speaker 2: when they actually played. Like, I get why there is

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Speaker 2: excitement and I'm not trying to poop poo it for

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Speaker 2: Cowboys fans because this does feel a little bit different,

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Speaker 2: But I also just like I can't wrap my head

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Speaker 2: around them really being a contender, mostly because they're the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys and it never works out.

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Speaker 3: Am I crazy for saying that?

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01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:44,680
Speaker 1: See you mentioned to me earlier today that this was

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01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:47,519
Speaker 1: something that I've been on your mind, and it drove

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Speaker 1: me nuts because I wanted to find a place to

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Speaker 1: really disagree with you because it's compelling, but I can't

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Speaker 1: because that was my takeaway too. They're not James Harden, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I don't have anything necesscessarily against them, like in

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Speaker 1: terms of their competitive spirit or things of that nature.

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Speaker 1: But they're not things where I need to actually see

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Speaker 1: them do it before I can feel too confident in

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Speaker 1: them actually pulling it off. And that was always my thing,

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Speaker 1: is like, once I see James Harden win a championship,

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Speaker 1: I'll believe it's possible for him to do so. I

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01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 1: haven't seen this team do it. This is the kind

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Speaker 1: of game that Dallas has lost year in and year out,

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Speaker 1: This game against Philadelphia, this is gonna tell us an

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Speaker 1: awful lot now once we get to the playoffs. Toty

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01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:34,599
Speaker 1: Difment story. This is the kind of game where we've

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Speaker 1: seen the other DAC show up, which is why I

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Speaker 1: made that point. The season is not over. Philadelphia is

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01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:44,439
Speaker 1: there's some creaks right now. The defense is not that great,

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Speaker 1: the offense is not It's not consistent. Jalen Hurts is

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01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 1: not playing as consistently down to down as we're used to.

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Speaker 1: We've seen some advanced analytics that kind of back that up.

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Speaker 1: This is the game Dallas should win. They should They

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01:50:57,640 --> 01:51:00,920
Speaker 1: might be the better team right now today I kind

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01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:04,080
Speaker 1: of find I kind of feel like Philadelphia is gonna

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01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 1: go in there and beat them, though. So that's where

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Speaker 1: I am so really quickly.

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Speaker 2: I agree with everything that you said, is that if

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Speaker 2: you are a Super Bowl contender, if you want us

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Speaker 2: to take you seriously, you're at home. You just lost

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01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 2: to them a few weeks ago on the final play.

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Speaker 2: This is like their fourth big game in a row,

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Speaker 2: Mega Showdown, and I know that they're coming off a loss.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, like, if you're a legit contender,

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Speaker 2: Dallas take care of business at home. I don't believe

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Speaker 2: they will. I feel like this is the quintessential Dallas

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Speaker 2: letdown game.

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Speaker 3: Give me the Eagles, pat give us one more game.

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Speaker 3: We'll give a one.

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Speaker 7: Word win or lose answer on all right, we save

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Speaker 7: the best for last and not the best for the last, Well,

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Speaker 7: for one of us, it may or may not be

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Speaker 7: we have the Denver Broncos. I'm sorry, Jason Martin's Denver

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Speaker 7: Broncos taking on the Los Ane Angels Chargers.

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Speaker 4: Chargers are at home.

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Speaker 7: But let's be real here, I don't think really, you know,

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Speaker 7: I think the home team's still going to be outpaced

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Speaker 7: by the fans. With Dodgers Denver Bronco fans the favor

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Speaker 7: or a favorite guys are the Chargers two and a half?

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Speaker 3: Chargers home?

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Speaker 7: Jason, I'll let you have first words, since you're the

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Speaker 7: Denver guy.

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Speaker 1: What do you think this should be a game that

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01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:23,799
Speaker 1: the Chargers score a lot of points in? But Denver's

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01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:27,320
Speaker 1: defense again has played better. Sean Payton has shown that

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01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:29,720
Speaker 1: he can get the most out of Russell Wilson right now,

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Speaker 1: even if there's still certainly some problems there, and we

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Speaker 1: saw that against Houston. I actually think the Broncos are

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Speaker 1: going to beat the Chargers. I don't believe in Brandon

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01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:42,240
Speaker 1: Staley at all. And I think their defense is a

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01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:45,000
Speaker 1: paper tiger at best, and really they're more like a

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01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:48,479
Speaker 1: paper meercat because there's not really anything all that deadly

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01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:52,040
Speaker 1: about them on paper either. So I actually think Denver's

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01:52:52,040 --> 01:52:53,920
Speaker 1: going to be able to go in there force the issue.

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Speaker 1: I see Sutton having a touchdown in this game. I

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01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:58,280
Speaker 1: see them running the ball pretty effectively in this game,

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01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:00,519
Speaker 1: controlling the clock, and as long as Russell Wilson doesn't

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Speaker 1: turn the ball over, I think they'll win.

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Speaker 3: So I think they'll win two. We gotta get to break.

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Speaker 2: But I'll just say this, like six and six, which

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Speaker 2: the Broncos are has you in playoff contention, the Chargers

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01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:16,280
Speaker 2: are not even six and six. Listen, I know we've

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Speaker 2: been doing like the song and dance about will Brandon

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01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:21,559
Speaker 2: Stalely be fired? Won't he if you fall to five

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Speaker 2: and eight with this roster? Like, I'm sorry, I know

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Speaker 2: the Spanos fan, We've done the Spanos family thing, the

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Speaker 2: Chargers thing. I just don't know how Brandon Stalely can

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Speaker 2: be your head coach come Monday if you lose this game.

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Speaker 2: And it's not an indictment on the Broncos, who are

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01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 2: playing much better over the last month, even though they're

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Speaker 2: coming off a loss. I just feel like, how can

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Speaker 2: you be five and freaking eight with this roster when

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Speaker 2: you look at the standings right now? Indianapolis Colts seven

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Speaker 2: and five, Texans seven and five, Cleveland Browns seven and five,

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Speaker 2: Denver Broncos. Say what you want, first year head coach

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01:53:56,400 --> 01:53:59,559
Speaker 2: six and six. By the way, Cincinnati Begeles without their

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01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:01,479
Speaker 2: starting quarterback, just picked up a win.

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Speaker 1: It's like, well, dude, half the teams you just mentioned

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01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:06,479
Speaker 1: the don't have their starting quarterback. You've got Justin Herbert

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01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:08,760
Speaker 1: and you're not really even in the mix, Like there

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01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:10,600
Speaker 1: is no excuse for that whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what, Jason, we'll come back. We'll wrap the show.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I do like the Broncos to win

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Speaker 2: as well. Come back, wrap the show. One segment left

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Speaker 2: till Bernie Fratto.

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Speaker 3: That's next.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio by a more in six seconds remaining,

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Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Lakers. We're in the first NBA Cup.

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Speaker 1: They are champions of the inaugural in season tournament. For

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis or spectacular player from lebron James and a

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Speaker 1: Laker defense to put on on Clete tonight.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Eric Taurus, Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: I think we covered pretty much everything. Everything's off the

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01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:27,680
Speaker 2: checklist for tonight. Anything we missed from this week in

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01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:30,120
Speaker 2: sports that you're you're like fired up about that, we

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01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:32,440
Speaker 2: haven't by should mention. By the way, Bernie Fratto top

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01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:34,720
Speaker 2: of the hour, he's awesome. Make sure you're staying tuned

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01:55:34,840 --> 01:55:37,800
Speaker 2: after we get off air. But uh, anything we missed

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01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:39,400
Speaker 2: so far tonight.

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Speaker 1: Well, we saw, I know, the quarterback go down. It

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01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 1: looks like Trevor is saying he's gonna play. So that's

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01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:48,160
Speaker 1: good news. That's that's positive news. I think one thing

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01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:52,120
Speaker 1: I did mention to you this week about college football,

2293
01:55:52,280 --> 01:55:58,360
Speaker 1: when we saw the NCAA representative come out and suggest basically,

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01:55:58,440 --> 01:56:00,480
Speaker 1: let's do the nil, but let's just do it right

2295
01:56:00,520 --> 01:56:02,960
Speaker 1: at the university's it's create a fund. All those kinds

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01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:07,920
Speaker 1: of things. I mentioned that the way the transfer portal

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01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 1: was set up right now, if you could possibly make

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01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:14,240
Speaker 1: it so that the Bulls mean less, I would like

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01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:17,160
Speaker 1: to see, how like, outside of the college football Playoff,

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01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:19,080
Speaker 1: which thank goodness, we're going to expand so we have

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01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:22,520
Speaker 1: more games that matter. We're opening the transfer portal, and

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01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:25,200
Speaker 1: we got teams that are preparing to play bowl games

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01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:27,840
Speaker 1: and their fans are supposed to somehow be invested in

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01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:32,240
Speaker 1: all this. And we've got like good quarterbacks on real

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01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:35,840
Speaker 1: big time brands that already have declared that they're route

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01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:39,000
Speaker 1: and that they're gone. It's just like, how about can

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01:56:39,040 --> 01:56:41,480
Speaker 1: we wait until after the I understand the way the

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01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:44,120
Speaker 1: calenter falls and the way recruiting falls, and the way

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01:56:44,160 --> 01:56:46,080
Speaker 1: you have to always be at work on what's going

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01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 1: to happen next, But how can I care about the

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01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 1: Bulls when I already know that some of the people

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01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:53,720
Speaker 1: that I'm watching wearing these uniforms are gone the second

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01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:55,920
Speaker 1: the game is over and already halfway out the door

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01:56:55,960 --> 01:56:58,000
Speaker 1: because their plans are already made for the next year.

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01:56:58,240 --> 01:57:01,120
Speaker 2: So here's my question, what is it gonna look like

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01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:04,080
Speaker 2: next year? Like, so take a care like Dylan Gabriel. Okay,

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01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:07,240
Speaker 2: so Dylan Gabriel was the quarterback at Oklahoma. He hits

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01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:11,240
Speaker 2: the portal because, either explicitly or implicitly, it was made

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01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:13,120
Speaker 2: clear to him he will not be the starter next year.

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Speaker 2: For people who don't know, there's a freshman named Jackson

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01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:17,920
Speaker 2: ardl that Oklahoma's really excited about, and he's not.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be a starter next year.

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Speaker 2: Well, Oklahoma would have made a twelve team college football

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Speaker 2: playoff this year.

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Speaker 3: Jason like, is he gonna transfer? Is he gonna play?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know.

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01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:32,800
Speaker 2: I mean I guess in theory he's gonna play because

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01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:35,560
Speaker 2: it's gonna you know, maybe for somebody like him, maybe

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Speaker 2: he plays well enough where now he is on NFL

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Speaker 2: draft boards.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You know, Kyle mccorr transferred from Ohio State, if I

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Speaker 2: assume he.

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Speaker 3: Would play in a bowl game, and maybe that.

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Speaker 2: Would have saved his Ohio State career, Like if he

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01:57:49,120 --> 01:57:51,400
Speaker 2: bounces back and not a bowl game, excuse me, an

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01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:53,720
Speaker 2: expanded playoff, Like, but that was something I was thinking about.

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Speaker 3: What was two things?

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Speaker 2: Is one I think once we get to a twelve

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01:57:57,640 --> 01:58:00,160
Speaker 2: team playoff, I think you're gonna see teams opt out

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Speaker 2: of bowl games because I think teams are just gonna

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01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:06,760
Speaker 2: say our coaching staff's time will be better served not

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01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:09,040
Speaker 2: preparing for the Mini Key Bowl.

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Speaker 3: But also, like what about these.

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Speaker 2: Places like again in Oklahoma and et cetera, where they've

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Speaker 2: kind of let these guys know, hey, you're not the

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Speaker 2: guy next year, Like do they play in the playoff?

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Speaker 2: If they play in the playoff, does that change? Like

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Speaker 2: what if Dylan Gabriel plays in the playoff and leads

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma to the title.

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Speaker 3: Game, does that mean that you know? Like, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It just there's just a lot of interesting things that

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Speaker 2: I don't think have really been thought through quite yet.

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Speaker 3: If that makes sense, Yeah, it does.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's just every day what we

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Speaker 1: knew of college football, at least what we saw on

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Speaker 1: the surface. Now we know a lot of stuff has

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Speaker 1: happening behind the scenes. Things just feel different right now.

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Speaker 1: It just does. But the bowl system, and you're right,

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Speaker 1: I think that's absolutely something we could see his teams

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Speaker 1: just saying no, it's all right, Like we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: ahead and move on to next year because we need

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Speaker 1: to be on the recruiting trail more than we need

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Speaker 1: these extra practices, especially considering some of these guys aren't

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Speaker 1: going to be here next year.

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Speaker 2: Exactly so interesting thought here. College football transfer portal is

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Speaker 2: definitely open. College football Playoff four teams are announced. We'll

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Speaker 2: have those games in a couple weeks from now.

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Speaker 3: We gotta get out of here.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I want to thank the crew, Lorraina

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Speaker 2: on the board, producer Pat Steve de Sager, from my

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