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Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles would host the Commanders in a division game.

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Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons and the four and the Kirk Cousins Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kirk Cousins Bowl would be intriguing to me.

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Speaker 1: will they fared division game? Very comfortable in terms of

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Speaker 3: That's not the ideal opening.

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Speaker 1: Round game that you want if you to feel the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's some intriguing matchups there. I would say, man,

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Speaker 2: how about next week's matchup between the Ravens and the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: You talk about a heavyweight fight, you know it's heavyweight fight.

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Speaker 1: And if you're the ball to on Ravens, you're coming

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Speaker 3: Very matchup for the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 1: But Baltimore Ravens, man, they want to play physical football.

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Speaker 3: And we talked.

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Speaker 1: There's one thing to beat the bully. It's another thing

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that's that's gonna be fun, man, that'll be

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Speaker 2: a fun matchup. Let's say quick break, we come back,

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Speaker 2: We'll get a rookie draft. No reht and no Bill

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Speaker 2: to that right after this. All right, Buck, We've got

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Speaker 2: the rookie draft here we made a little ground up

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Speaker 2: He's he's playing. Look, sometimes you play a little bit

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Speaker 3: He's punching above his way right now.

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Speaker 1: He and Kirk Signetty have been going right now, and

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Speaker 1: we're hoping that we can kind of find a way

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Speaker 3: We need to make sure that we get Ritt bringing

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Speaker 2: Yep, we're gonna do that. We're gonna hut him down

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Speaker 2: right now. All right, we are going to start off.

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Speaker 2: I've got the first pick, You've got the second pick.

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Speaker 2: Then Rhet goes back to back on the turn here.

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Speaker 2: So first pick, man, I don't I don't know that

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna change anything with what's been working. So I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna stick with Jayden Daniels here with the first pick.

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Speaker 1: Oh look at you, Jayde and Daniels. Now here's what

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Speaker 1: makes it tough. Bo Nis has played so well that

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Speaker 1: I compelled need to I need to take him just

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna take Bowe Nicks right here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that gives Rhett a little doubled up here. Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Orett's gonna go Brock Bowers. According to Nobile, that would

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Speaker 2: have been my pick. I always feel like I missed

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Speaker 2: out on Bowers. All right, Who's who's he got next

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Speaker 2: to the Bill? He's going Bowers. Oh we got Bucky

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Speaker 2: Irving first. I didn't see that, so he went Bucky

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Speaker 2: Irving and then Hours. So there you go. Your namesake

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Speaker 2: is off the board. Buck You're up next.

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Speaker 1: Wow, yes, sir, yes, telling uh you know DJ It

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Speaker 1: is a thing where sometimes, like normally, the squeaky will

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Speaker 1: try and go with Melik Neighbors. He was a little

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Speaker 1: upset like he didn't get enough touches. So let's go

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Speaker 1: with Eleak Neighbors getting more touches this week.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with Lad

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Speaker 2: McConkey with my first pick. Who, by the way, is

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Speaker 2: it going to surprise you at all? If you look

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Speaker 2: talking about somebody who's, you know, averaging one hundred and

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Speaker 2: six catches a year. You know, it's just the way

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Speaker 2: He's just going to be such a high volume guy.

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Speaker 2: So I'll go with that for my first one. My

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Speaker 2: I want to dunesay, who got me some points last week? Oh?

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Speaker 2: If I want to go back to that route again,

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Speaker 2: let me see who else would I go? Yeah, Marvin

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Speaker 2: Harrison's just kind of lingering out there. There's a good

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Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison. I'll go Marvin Harrison.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So the back to back for you was who

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Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison, June.

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Speaker 2: Laddin, I got what, Ladi McConkie, and Marvin Harrison.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this inside of trading. But that's cool.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go I'm gonna have my own little inside

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Speaker 1: of trading. Maybe Brian Thomas Junior re emerges, particularly if

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Speaker 1: Number sixteen can play.

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Speaker 3: For the Jacks this week.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And then that leaves Rhett with the final pick,

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Speaker 2: and he's gonna go with Caleb Williams. All right, well,

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Speaker 2: I'll see if we can run him down here. Man,

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Speaker 2: So Buck, you ended up with bo Nick's neighbors and

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Speaker 2: BTJ I ended up with Jaden Daniels, Laddi McConkie and

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Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison and Rhett who's leading the show here? He

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Speaker 2: gets Bucky Irving, Brock Bowers and Caleb Williams. So we'll see. Uh,

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Speaker 2: maybe this is the key. Maybe we just need him

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Speaker 2: not to show up for the draft. And uh didn't complain.

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Speaker 3: About it, though he's gonna complain about it if it

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Speaker 2: we as we work our way towards Thanksgiving. Anything else

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Speaker 2: We'll have one more show coming up Wednesday, by the way,

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Speaker 2: anything else you want to add, Bock?

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, look, we just got to get to

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Speaker 1: We gotta hope you can close the gap on HTT.

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Speaker 1: Redd is having a very unorthodox, unusual, uncommon fall. We

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're doing it. We're gonna reel him in. We're

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Speaker 2: going to close this thing down. And uh, and just

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Speaker 3: All right, there you go.

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Speaker 2: There's a quick one today. Appreciate you guys hanging with us.

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Speaker 2: We'll see it tomorrow. Right here on, move the sticks.