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Speaker 1: That's how hard this climb is going to be. And

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Speaker 1: they're relevant teams on their schedule leaving up to the deadline.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into Northside Territory Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 2: Sahadev Sharma with Patrick Mooney, where your Cubs beat writers

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Speaker 2: at the Athletic Uh. We are covering the hot Cubs

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Speaker 2: who have won five of two games. Man, if it

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Speaker 2: wasn't for that Saturday doubleheader sweep, this tone would be

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Speaker 2: hyping this team. I think one more win there would

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Speaker 2: would make it feel a lot different. But Patrick, I said,

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Speaker 2: coming into these the seven game series, if if they

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Speaker 2: went five and two, that's the type of thing that

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Speaker 2: staves off a cell for a little bit. They did that,

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Speaker 2: they won the first four, so five and two almost

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Speaker 2: feels like a little like a little anti climactic. But

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Speaker 2: they played really well for they've played really well for

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Speaker 2: about ten games now. The games that they didn't two

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Speaker 2: of them were just blow up losses, and Saturday night

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Speaker 2: for the two months that we saw the poor play, right,

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Speaker 2: But other than that, we saw the team that kind

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Speaker 2: or at least more frequently. Sunday, I think is a

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Speaker 2: dream scenario of that we're just not going to see

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Speaker 2: very much because I don't I don't think this team

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Speaker 2: has that type of power. I think Craig Council would

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Speaker 2: I don't want to act like a Sunday is like

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Speaker 2: week and a big road trip, and and Councils said

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Speaker 2: best case scenarios to end the first half. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed reading your Takeaway's piece on The Athletic this morning,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's funny how like it might have

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Speaker 1: they're playing really well. Now they're gonna be iced for

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Speaker 1: several days and get it back going again. I guess

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, this was this was a pivotal,

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Speaker 1: and like they passed, and so I think we're still

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Speaker 1: I think they could incrementally add on maybe what like

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Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, I don't know how you do that unless

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Speaker 2: Those are the types of trades that they love, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: So you right right, they're not celebrating yet because they're like,

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Speaker 1: This is not like some new regime that like inherited all.

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Speaker 3: like there should be arms like popping now.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we don't, you know, not to put this

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Speaker 1: the second half, Like we don't know. I wouldn't like

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Speaker 1: bet on it, but they've clearly bet on all of

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Speaker 1: these players here, Like this is not Bio's team, this

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Speaker 1: is not prior regime, Like this is all about Jed

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Speaker 1: and this is you know, they're already this far in

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Speaker 1: around the CBT, like they're supposed to win this year.

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Speaker 1: And I think you have to, you know, put all

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Speaker 1: your energy towards that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it and like I'm I think, like this

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Speaker 2: is kind of random, but I was just thinking about

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Speaker 2: the Luke Little injury and how you kind of shift

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Speaker 2: the bullpen around it, Like they're they're gonna have to

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Speaker 2: get someone else in there. They can't allow what happened

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Speaker 2: to met mark Leider Junior to happen again, right, like

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Speaker 2: things like that, Like so they they if they're planning

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Speaker 2: on contending, they need to fortify the bullpen for sure,

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Speaker 2: Like they need to find a left handed pitcher that

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Speaker 2: council can go to and trust, because like Smiley is

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Speaker 2: a good guy, a veteran and and he can definitely

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Speaker 2: eat innings and get you out. He's not a lefty specialist.

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Speaker 2: It's not like he dominates lefties. And that's like they

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Speaker 2: need to find someone that can do that and maybe

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Speaker 2: not even just dominate, but that you can trust in

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Speaker 2: bigger situations. So I mean, that's just you know, one

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Speaker 2: of a few needs. And they're not like they're not

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Speaker 2: these like massive buys, right, like there is We've talked

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Speaker 2: about it enough that there certainly they could do the

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Speaker 2: massive buy and it would help the team, right, but

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Speaker 2: that there are ways to improve this team and just

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Speaker 2: kind of strengthen random weaknesses or slightly improved like Catcher, right,

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Speaker 2: like just slightly improve the offense there, and you're and

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Speaker 2: you're talking about a very different you're feeling very differently

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Speaker 2: about about spots in the line line up and not

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Speaker 2: feeling like they are these massive gaps in the lineup. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think this is going to be These next two

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Speaker 2: weeks are going to be fascinating because I don't, like,

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Speaker 2: I'm very curious to see how they pull it off.

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Speaker 1: Patrick, Like, what, right, I mean they're having these same conversation,

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Speaker 1: like a version of this conversation right in between draft

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Speaker 1: picks or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, right, absolutely, they're not there. It's I mean,

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Speaker 2: the conversations have already shifted in the past week like these,

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Speaker 2: Like it happens so quickly, and and if things go

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Speaker 2: bad this weekend, it can shift again. So we'll see

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Speaker 2: how it goes. Uh, what exact needs pop up? Like

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Speaker 2: I think it's clear, but we'll see how aggressive they

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Speaker 2: are and and and how they address those needs. Because

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Speaker 2: I think sitting still is not Jed's mo. He loves deadly,

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Speaker 2: he loves making he he knows that this can be

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Speaker 2: a stagnant league. And he likes to take advantage of deadlines,

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Speaker 2: moments when it's like people have to make moves right now.

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Speaker 2: He likes to take advantage of that because there are

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Speaker 2: a few times when you can really impact a roster

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Speaker 2: during the season as a front office exec, and this

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Speaker 2: is one of them. And he's going to He's going

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Speaker 2: to do something. He doesn't sit still. All right, I

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Speaker 2: think we'll be back for two more episodes this week.

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Speaker 2: Get right back at it. This is a north Side territory.

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