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Speaker 1: and I think they feed as dinners that right, Mike,

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Speaker 1: and that's all. I'll surprised. See. It's a New Faces

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Speaker 1: out with Christian Bush. Other than that, here we go

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Speaker 1: All Right, thank you. I don't know want to thank

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Allen's here. You're good, Yeah, man doing great. Did

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Speaker 1: you live in your car for a bit? Is that true? Yes?

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Speaker 1: It is. It was not a fine point. I was

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Speaker 1: blunt in country music. You can't say what you feel. Yeah,

424
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Speaker 1: you're not supposed to. I've been trouble a lot people

425
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 1: behind closed doors. Yeah, it must to be kind of

426
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 1: the people that opened the gates. And so I just

427
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 1: came and I was probably a little too much, too quick,

428
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,439
Speaker 1: and I just kicked the gates and I kicked him

429
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,199
Speaker 1: and kept kicking him. And they didn't always fall down,

430
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 1: and they kick them all down. But I appreciate your

431
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 1: honesty though, man, Like I'd rather somebody just be honest

432
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 1: and you know where they where they are versus you

433
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:47,919
Speaker 1: know now. I just try to put the honesty in

434
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,639
Speaker 1: places I feel most important. It's like I pick a

435
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 1: lot of battles because man, I didn't care about battle.

436
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 1: I was just shooting everybody down. I was like, you suck,

437
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 1: you suck, you suck, and they now, I may feel

438
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Speaker 1: that way, but I just really to go out to

439
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 1: people I think it really it's that. And so I

440
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 1: wonder because I came in this format, people said you

441
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 1: don't look like we think you're supposed to look, and

442
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,679
Speaker 1: I wondered if that dude, man, I've I've felt it.

443
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 1: And I get asked a lot of time. I had

444
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 1: this guy like tweet me actually he was like, Jimmy, like,

445
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,880
Speaker 1: is your music country at always a straight hip hop?

446
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 1: I wanted to be like, dude, do you haven't even

447
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 1: heard hip hop? My music is not even close to

448
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 1: hip hop? Bro, Like, it's not. I wanted to like

449
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: retweet it so bad to me, but but I was like,

450
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,160
Speaker 1: you know what, there's always gonna be that. But for me,

451
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: country music is a lot about how you're raised, your morals,

452
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 1: what's important to you, and storytelling and the music being

453
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 1: authentic to you. That's country music to me because I

454
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 1: grew up on like, you know, Aaron Tipping mcgommery, Gentry

455
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 1: Garth Brooks, Alabama. That's all the artists my dad like

456
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 1: listen to, you know, and um, but you know, I've

457
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: have a musical power that has grown like like us

458
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 1: all you know, we'll go from Kid Rock to Keith

459
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: Urban to jay Z and everybody does that. Everybody does that.

460
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: It's just a super vocal minority that does it, but

461
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: don't want to admit they do it publicly because they

462
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: can't be the vocal minority. Are you getting these conversations

463
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 1: a lot with people who say, hey, we're trying to

464
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: create something that's a lifestyle brand. What would you do?

465
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 1: And I say, well, the last thing I'll do is

466
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,479
Speaker 1: chase the vocal minority. What you want to do is

467
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: go to that majority that's actually consuming the product and

468
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 1: enjoying it so much. They're not saying anything and we

469
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 1: don't feel like they're the people reacting. But when you

470
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: eat a good sandwich, do you send an email to

471
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Speaker 1: the sandwich people and go, hey that's a great sandwich. No,

472
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Speaker 1: just if you get a hair in your sandwich, Hey,

473
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: there aren't so many hair and sandwich. It's just those

474
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Speaker 1: are the people that that the very mind minute secret

475
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,479
Speaker 1: of people that are piste off that it's not going

476
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: to directions of the one screaming all the time. If

477
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: you listen to people and just listen to who's yelling

478
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm the worst thing to ever happen in the format,

479
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: the absolute worst. Why do you think that? Why do

480
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 1: you feel that? But oh, all the time, every time

481
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: I hit my ant reply on Twitter, it's people cursing

482
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 1: my name or it's blogs how terrible I am. But

483
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: that being said, they're still talking about you. Yeah, and

484
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: you know, I don't care about that so much. But

485
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: I have eight to nine million people. They aren't saying

486
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: anything because they're consuming the product and they're satisfied by it,

487
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: and they continue to consume that by tickets. Don't have

488
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: comedy shows, they listen to my radio show. But we

489
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: get so fixated on people yelling at what they don't like.

490
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: That's just in a small box. And if there aren't

491
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 1: people yelling that they don't like you, that means that

492
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: they are not gonna people yelling they do love you.

493
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: It's same thing with the music. I'm not trying to

494
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Speaker 1: get my theory one that I understand. Man. There there

495
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: was one moment when I came into uh, you know,

496
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: because I was doing what I'm doing now, I was

497
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: doing in two thousand and seven, but country was saying

498
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: I was too pop back then because I was even

499
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: before darties came over, and you know, there was no

500
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Speaker 1: uh current like Sam Hunter, Thomas Rhett. The pop country

501
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: for a guy thing wasn't really happening, you know. And

502
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: then I was two country for pop. So it was

503
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: like there were years when I kind of just sat

504
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,719
Speaker 1: in this box and people were like, WHOA are you

505
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: really country or you just trying to be country because

506
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: you couldn't get a pop deal. Well, I was offered

507
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,959
Speaker 1: a pop deal. I just turned it down because they

508
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 1: told me you had to lose my boots. I couldn't

509
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: talk about my small town. They wanted to make me

510
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: an urban one Republic black. Yeah, they said they wanted

511
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: me to make me a black version of one Republic.

512
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: But I was like, man, I can't. I can't not

513
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: be who I am, you know, so, and what's a

514
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: black version of one Republic? One Republic? But black? I mean,

515
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: but even I hear one Republic and I don't a

516
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: race with that, dude, I'm telling you. And if the

517
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Speaker 1: funny thing is people we still here with our eyes

518
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Speaker 1: because I you know, like, for instance, somebody heard my

519
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Speaker 1: music once and I'm thinking they would say it reminds

520
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Speaker 1: them of like you know, Sam Hunt, tr F G

521
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Speaker 1: L more of that. They're like, man, your stuff sounds

522
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Speaker 1: just like they're this rucker what staying with and just

523
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: da man, dude, It's it's so funny like that, Like

524
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 1: and everywhere I go when Darius is in town, if

525
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 1: I go somewhere that Darius is true story. So when

526
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: he him and John Mellencamp did their uh their Crossroads,

527
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,959
Speaker 1: I was there right so I went because they were

528
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: in the like the theater downstairs, the bridge downs. I

529
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: went to the bathroom and I'm just trying to get

530
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: to the bathroom. The security lady stops me and saying, hey,

531
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 1: you are you looking for Darius. I was like, nah,

532
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: I go to the bathroom. She's like, okay, cool, but

533
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: no words. Soon as you come back, I take you

534
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: to darius Is room. I was like, I don't I'm

535
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: not here with Daris. I don't even know Daries, like

536
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 1: I've met him twice, but I don't know what she said,

537
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so sorry. Coming back out, I

538
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: was at the rhyming not rhyming but gran Old operate

539
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: for CMA week last year, um backstage, same thing that

540
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: this guy was like, so you're looking for Mr Ruckers Room.

541
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: No you're You're not with Darius, No No, but it's hilarious.

542
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: I get a kick out of it. Home to You,

543
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544
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545
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Speaker 1: wherever you are you want to get you. Yeah, it's

546
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: funny to mention being too pop into country for wherever.

547
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: When I was in pop and hip hop, I was

548
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: too country to do pop and hip hop. When to

549
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: get the country, I'm too pop to because still and

550
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: wherever I go, I've just never fit. But I'm telling

551
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: you, you you know what makes you fit the most, it's

552
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: not fitting anywhere. The greatest thing to ever happened to

553
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: me was not fitting anywhere because it made me like

554
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: everybody else. Not I like to them, but it made

555
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 1: me like them because nobody fits into any specific little cabinet.

556
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: And whenever you don't fit, you were like to the

557
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: other people who And that's the people don't fit exactly.

558
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: Because we look at our phones, that's all we we

559
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: have it all kinds of music, movies, Netflix shows. There

560
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: just isn't a cabinet. We have to get into No,

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00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: not at all. And I'm sure if you went down

562
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,359
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563
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: People might like one of your movies, another twenty might

564
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567
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569
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Speaker 1: or like just go to like trivia night, Like what

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00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,840
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Speaker 1: and that's how you pay your bills. So there was

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Speaker 1: a couple of like talent shows I did. That's saying

603
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: like a trivia not a local bar, like a talent

604
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Speaker 1: But that only happened. Whoever wrote that money like exaggerated

605
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: a little bit. It was only like three times. It's

606
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: like three times I went and uh, I one like

607
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Speaker 1: a local talent show, you know, and a little stuff

608
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 1: in Delaware. It's like four hund dollars here, hard dollars here.

609
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: I would go to like Philly and do like open

610
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Speaker 1: mics in a couple of dollars here. I think I

611
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Speaker 1: made total like maybe like tan grand over the span.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good. It was spent like two years though,

613
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Speaker 1: but it was enough for me to, you know, financially,

614
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: take care of what I needed to take care of,

615
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: and just get back to the next you know, to

616
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: the next talent show whatever. So you were so close

617
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: to New York, like that seems like the place you

618
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: would go to try to sell your music, right, It's

619
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: just I thought about it, but it just didn't fit me,

620
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: you know. In New York for me was scary, like

621
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: coming from Milton, like going to New York, Oh my god,

622
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: did like it was just all these people. Everybody was

623
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: different because I got used to, you know, small town.

624
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: You know everybody, everybody dresses like this, we talk like this,

625
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: you say hello, you speak to everyone. I'm not used to,

626
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: like people like me, mugging me, like walking down the street.

627
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: Like my first time going to New York was horrible.

628
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Speaker 1: Like when I took the Chinese bus there for people

629
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: that don't know what the Chinese. But it's twenty five dollars,

630
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: like round trip. You catch the bus at Womanton, Delaware.

631
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Speaker 1: It takes you to New York to Chinatown. It just

632
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: drops you off, like it's not great, hounding nothing, Like

633
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: there's nothing on the bus. It's just an Asian dude

634
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: driving the bus. It's like, but I've saying so much

635
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,959
Speaker 1: money taking the Chinese bus to New York. I went

636
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: there by myself. I think how it was like seventeen

637
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: I think, and then freaked me out. But I got

638
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: lost on the subway. But I'm glad I did it.

639
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: Like it really opened me up to a world where

640
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: I knew nothing, and I had to accept the fact

641
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: that you know, I don't know anything. I need I

642
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: either need to learn or shut up and stay in

643
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: my hometown. So so you know, down to Nashville, I

644
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: mean that's a further trip, so it's harder to go home.

645
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: That's across the country. Yeah, I feel like it's better

646
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: to pull the safety net when you feel like when

647
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: you pull a safety that whether you're safety that is family,

648
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: a plan B. I feel like you're not able to

649
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: really put into what you're doing because you're like, if

650
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: it don't work, I'm good. But when you have no

651
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: option but to succeed and be successful, you have you

652
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: have no choice but to work hard and literally give

653
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: every part of who you are to what you're chasing.

654
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's when you become You find

655
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: who you are first, you become stronger, and then you

656
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: become successful. You know who you are now? Yes, who

657
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: are you? Man? I am a guy for Milton Delaware

658
00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: that uses music to, you know, one, make myself happy

659
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: because I love it, but also I use my story

660
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 1: to motivate people to not give up on what they're chasing.

661
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: That's I honestly believe that's why I went through everything

662
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: I did because I feel like there are so many

663
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: people that are chasing different careers. Um, whether it's a career,

664
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: whether it's a relationship, it's just that underdog mentality that

665
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: don't quit that you set your sight on something, you

666
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: practice your network, you do whatever it takes to be

667
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: ready for that opportunity, because I all, I honestly believe

668
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 1: we're all giving at least one opportunity to get everything

669
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: that we've worked so hard for. But it comes down

670
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: to are we ready when that opportunity presents itself. And

671
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: that's just me, man, I'm like, I'm like a cheesy

672
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: positive dude, Like that's just that's just how I see life.

673
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: I always see like there's a way to win, even

674
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: when you know the odds are against you. Like, if

675
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: you push a little bit harder, eventually whoever is holding

676
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: you back and whoever's fighting for you not to win,

677
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: they'll get tired of trying to hold me back before

678
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: I get tired of trying to press forward. And that's

679
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: just a mentality you have to you have to keep.

680
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: So how did you decide on your current record label?

681
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: I love the radio staff, um. I love that it

682
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: was small, it was family oriented. I love that I

683
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: could just text back and forth with the VP of

684
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: the label. I love that you know BMG came and

685
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: I was a huge fan of that cats when he

686
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: was with Bluga Hights, Jason Derrillo and all those guys. Yep.

687
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: So my thing was, man, all right, the good people.

688
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: You know that they're accessible, you know, they're honest, they're

689
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: hard working. Um if I could get you know, BBR

690
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: to help with the US radio, I can get BMG

691
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: to come in and help with US and internationally, you know.

692
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: So I felt it first as a personal family vibe

693
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: and then a business you know. I was like, okay, cool,

694
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: we we won't just go here, and I have the

695
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: opportunity to be a guinea pig, you know. And um,

696
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: I was the first artist that they signed out to

697
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: the merging. They they signed me, then they signed Chase

698
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: Rice and Kid Rock, and I was the only one

699
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: without a fan base, you know. And I felt like, man,

700
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: I'm forever great for the John Loeba for taking that

701
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: chance signing me three months after them being bought, because

702
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: he put his neck on the line for me because

703
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: I had nothing going on, you know, So him investing

704
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: that much faith in me made me want to work

705
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: even harder because I felt like we all have something

706
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: to lose, you know me, John, the head of the

707
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: new head of promo at Stony Creek Byron Like, I

708
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: feel like we're all like in this for the first

709
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: time at these new positions, and we wanted you know,

710
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: we're we have a good time, but we we work

711
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: equally as hard and we all want the same thing,

712
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: which is to be successful. I feel like listening to

713
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: you talk. For a long time, my only goal was

714
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: to destroy all haters. That it was just people that

715
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: told me my whole life I wasn't talented enough I

716
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: get a voice. But as I've gotten older, instead of

717
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: wanting to destroy the haters, I've wanted to really show

718
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: the people that supported me. I wanted to show them

719
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: they were right more so than tell the people that

720
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: they're wrong. I always want to tell the people that

721
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: were right, like I appreciate that and I want to

722
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: prove you right. And he was a lot more weight, man,

723
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: did you ever feel like because for me and my family,

724
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: I felt like I can't give up on my dreams

725
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: because I had sisters cousins that were looking up to me,

726
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: and I feel like I was always the one that

727
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: was stepping out the trailblazer and if I gave up.

728
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: How would their confidence be if I'm always the one

729
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:43,959
Speaker 1: that they were looking up. So part of my reason

730
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: for never giving up was I knew I had two

731
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: little sisters that were watching everything I did. And one

732
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: of my sisters actually told me, she's like, Jimmy, I'm

733
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: glad you didn't quit because every step you made I

734
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: watched And if you didn't quit, I don't know what

735
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: I would have done. And and like you said, you

736
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: being different, you stepping up, Like I feel like there

737
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 1: are people, whether your family of your friends, that were

738
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: watching you every step, you know what I mean? Like, like,

739
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: you know, I just feel like we motivate more people

740
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: than we know. Man. You know, I hope I motivated people.

741
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: I wrote a book and it was you know, I

742
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: really got inside of my life. I don't have any

743
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: family really, so my my mom died, it's just forty

744
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: six died drugs and alcohol. I don't know my real dad.

745
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: And so for me, it was never I want to

746
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: show my family, but it was I want to show

747
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: people like me that we're told you can't do this.

748
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: You're from a small town. Your food stamp kid, You'll

749
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: never be able to make it, that food stamp days. Yeah,

750
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: and my food stamps. We didn't have a card we had,

751
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: that's what they just switched that. I think like the

752
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: last what ten no, not in ten years? Eight years?

753
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: We had the boy those are the most embarrassing things

754
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: to pull out and the the yellows and yeah, so

755
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: did you have to do we have? What did you have? Wick?

756
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: I don't know? So Wick was like it basically it

757
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: looks like a menu that used to sit in a

758
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: plastic bag and you get like kick cereal milk, juicy juice.

759
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: So we didn't have that, but we would go stand

760
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: in line for for government cheese and government rice. So

761
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: we didn't get a bag, but we did have probably

762
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: different program where it was similar to that and they

763
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: would give you this box full of stuff. Yeah, we

764
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: would go down to the church and once a month

765
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: we go away in line. But that those are the

766
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: kind of people that I want to say, I'm you

767
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: if I can get out, and some people getting out

768
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: doesn't mean success in radio music. It means having a

769
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: family and being able to support them. Success is different

770
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: for everyone, but it's if I can have success, and

771
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: then you can have success. So that's who I like

772
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: to step out and have a scholarship in my high

773
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: school that I do every year out here for someone.

774
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: So it's things like that that I care about. So

775
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: and eventually I have a family. If I get somebody,

776
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: keep me welcome to the club. Club, man, let me

777
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: welcome to the club. What you got, no girl? Man? Man,

778
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: I I said, Man, No, I meane some recent or

779
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: something that's something to do. And you know I have

780
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: you know someone that I am you know very got

781
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: too much into it, right, that's a podcast. It will

782
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: lift forever. So I'm probably But you know you're never married? No,

783
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: I never been married? Man? Been close? H Yeah, me either.

784
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 1: I've had some great relationships. I've poisoned them all thought

785
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 1: about it. You know what. I wonder what what poisoned

786
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: it for you? Um? Insecurity? Uh, scared of commitment, starting

787
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: to get too good. Um My last relationship with Lindsay

788
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 1: who's on your label, not even label on your imprint,

789
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: even Sony Creed it was fantastic. Um. But then yeah,

790
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: I start to go, oh, I'm probably gonna do something.

791
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: I'd start. I don't know. I've been to therapy much.

792
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: I'm broke all that did do that? Man? I have? Man,

793
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: there's just you know, there's just going now. It's very

794
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: just you know, just special and you know, and and

795
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: I think it could be something, you know that could

796
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: definitely last forever. But my fear that creeps into my

797
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: head and lies, will I will I mess it up?

798
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: You know, because you have a lot of your insecurities,

799
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, come in, whether it's you know, not feeling

800
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 1: you know adequate, you know, if it's you know, abandonment issues,

801
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: things that you beat ourselves up a lot. And you know,

802
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: she's she's amazing, and I'm sure she should be listening

803
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: to this um but you know, she's man, she's special.

804
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: She's one of the times. So I always felt like

805
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: if I were to lose my job or whatever job

806
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: it is, because if I were to leave my current company,

807
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: there are about three other companies that would go im

808
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: pounce immediately. But if I were to lose this for

809
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: some reason, I would think, I don't know that I'm

810
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: worth being with. And I think that really poisoned it.

811
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: What I'm wondering makes you think that, well, because no

812
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: one ever stayed with me. I mean, I raised myself basically.

813
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: My mom wasn't around. If she was just physically she

814
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: you know was and I my mom has your fifteen,

815
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: so she she never really had a shot at it either.

816
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 1: So and I have a dad so heavy abandonment issues,

817
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: so I don't trust anyone to be around, so I

818
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: don't trust myself and also think having poster syndrome where

819
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm really as good as other people think.

820
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: So I go, Okay, I'm just faking everything out, and

821
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: actually I'm gonna be found out and then everybody's gonna leave.

822
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: But the crazy thing is, man, through all of our insecurities,

823
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: all of our mess, there is someone out there for

824
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: all of us that will love us through what we feel.

825
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: They might not love us, do you would think? Yeah?

826
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: And and and I mean I'm a hopeless romantic me.

827
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: I'm a sack bro like I believe it, you know,

828
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: I take that back. I think that my last couple

829
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: of girlfriends would have been there NonStop nons especially Lindsey

830
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: and NonStop. But I I killed it. They didn't kill it.

831
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: I killed it because I was afraid of it. I

832
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: was afraid eventually they would piece out because they would

833
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: realize what a fraud I am. Yeah, man, And I

834
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: think the crazy thing is it's weird as that is.

835
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: I think that ties into everything, like I think that

836
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: stuff like that's what messed my career for so long.

837
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: I was so worried about I'm not good enough, you know,

838
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: thinking that, you know what, I can't be who I

839
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: really am because nobody will think I'm cool. I want

840
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: my music, so I found That's why I found myself

841
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: for so many years doing what everybody else wanted me

842
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: to do, because I felt like, you know, what they

843
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: see me, so they get it, you know, looking for

844
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: for validation and and other things, versus accepting myself who

845
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: I am. Insecurities at all and using that too push

846
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 1: me to find out who I really am and where

847
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: I want to go, like because it's it's crazy how

848
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 1: your insecutor can legit kill everything and strengthen. I believe

849
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: I have been successful in my career because of my insecurity.

850
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: But I'm on a microphone. I can have a conversation

851
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: that I can never have with a human without one.

852
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: I would never have this conversation with these microphones more

853
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: in front of us, shut down, boom. It's that I

854
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: can say anything on the radio show because I get

855
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: pretty personal. I talked my book, I talked about a

856
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: bunch of really personal stuff. If I'm having a human

857
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: conversation with no microphone, it didn't feel like it's play. Yeah,

858
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 1: I got nothing minus via text. I can text anything

859
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: anything I feel, but face to face, I'm a coward.

860
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: She is, she's proud. Man. My dad is like so

861
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: happy that I went back country because he is like,

862
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: if it wasn't to my dad, I would be dressed

863
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: like John Party, I would happen. No, Lie, I would

864
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: have a huge belt buckle but a tiny button up

865
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: in a cowboy hat. And I said, Dad, there's no way, bro, Like,

866
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: there's no way. Like boots. I love boots, always wear

867
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: boots and Chuck Taylor's boots. Yes, the big belt buckle,

868
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: I wore it once in like ninth grade. There was

869
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: a fad in Delaware where we will wear big buck

870
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: buckles with Hawaiian button up shirts. It was horrible, like

871
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: it's it was bad. That's a fat, that's a definition

872
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: of a fat. It seemed like it's not even a trend.

873
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: That's a fat and fat. Bro. It was a bad idea,

874
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: that's what it was. I don't even know own a

875
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: pair of cowboy boots because I got so upset with

876
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: people telling them I needed to wear cowboy books about

877
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: I'm never wearing cowboy books. And I wasn't account I

878
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: didn't grow up, and I grew up in a town

879
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: of eight hundred people, and it was and it still

880
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: has segregated. There's a railroad track, and there's the white

881
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: quarters in the black quarters. It's still like that today,

882
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: and it's two thousand and eighteen. Yeah it's And so

883
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: it's like going back in time when I go home,

884
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: how is that it's just a really poor town. So

885
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: they haven't even progressed mentally at all. No one's mentally,

886
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 1: I would say, yes, but no one moves, so when

887
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: you're in, you kind of just die there. And it's

888
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: still there's a railroad track and it separates, and I

889
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: love my hometown and it's all I know. And it's

890
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: not a we versus them versus. It's just not that.

891
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 1: But there's always been a black quarters in the white quarters.

892
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: I don't know it any other way. And then when

893
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: I when I step back and think about it, it's

894
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: crazy to think that right here we are and it's

895
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: still like there's no law, there's no rule that says

896
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: that you have to say there, but that's just how

897
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: they that's just how everybody lives. When I was in Delawares,

898
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: everything was different. Like we had like we had four friends.

899
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: It was I was a black guy. We had a

900
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: Mexican a motto and two white guys Drew and Stephen,

901
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: and like we did everything together, man, like built forts,

902
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: tree houses, set stuff on fire, you know, shoot down

903
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: be highs and be be guns. And I didn't really

904
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: see the whole thing, like not really paying attention to

905
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: skin color, Like we just treat everybody the same, Like

906
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: my parents would discipline them their their parents would discipline me.

907
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: And man, it wasn't really until I went to college

908
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 1: and um, you know, you start seeing people treat you different,

909
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: even black people, because you know, I dressed. I didn't

910
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: dress like a stereotypical like black person. You know. I

911
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: remember walking on college campus and I got on these

912
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: like these jeans and like this blazer and like this

913
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: tiny Hollister shirt with this choker chain. Man, the looks

914
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: I got my black people, what you're doing, white boy?

915
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: Like what do you mean I'm not white man? Like

916
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: you know, and and then you know, then I see,

917
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, I you know, I met a few white

918
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: guys that were just like, you know, you know, I'm

919
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: not really sure, man, you know, because of the whole

920
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: black thing, Like it's man, it's crazy. And I've had

921
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: play people said, well, Jimmy, do you think you're white

922
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: because you went cowboy bootster? But I said, no, it's

923
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 1: my skin. Color does not define what I wear, who

924
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: I date, what I listened to. If I wear cowboy boots,

925
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 1: well I'm a black guy that wears cowboy boots. If

926
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: you're if you're a white, you're a white guy who

927
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: wears cowboy boots. That has nothing to do Like it

928
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: used to always just upset me how people want to

929
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: um assigned different things at different races, you know what

930
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it kills me, Like if you're white,

931
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be wrapping, you know, Like but yeah, Eminem

932
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: is one of the best rappers of all time. You know,

933
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: if if you're black, you shouldn't be doing country music.

934
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: You know. It's the stereotypes are hilarious, Like, yeah, I

935
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: think I think it's funny. I've had a couple of

936
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: boots companies come and offer me deals and say, hey,

937
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: we want you to wear boots and we've paid a

938
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: good amount of money. I was just told when I

939
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: moved here, I had to Again, I never had cowboy

940
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: boots as a kid. I didn't grow up. I was

941
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: on a Cowboy and nobody said, hey, here are boots.

942
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: So I never wear cowboy boots. And but but when

943
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: I came to Talent, it was like, hey, where's your

944
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: cowboy boots? Like that's this? Yeah, I don't. I wanted

945
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: not now and I probably would have if I wasn't

946
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 1: told I was supposed to. And so as we sit here,

947
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I got my I got my Easy. You

948
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: have never worn a pair of Easy. It's not worth

949
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: the money. Yeah, you know the truest thing with them.

950
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm hoping i'd get to know Tanye and given to

951
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: him for free. Yeah, let me get some shoes, bro,

952
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: what's time? I am eleven and a half twelve, that's it.

953
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: I taller you. I am like six ft right on

954
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: the dot. How would you weigh I am to ten? Okay,

955
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 1: that's where it is. I'm s's not what I would

956
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: love it because I'd be easy hook up. Yeah, let

957
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: me see. Let me see what I can do, because

958
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: I think I have. But the thing is you can't

959
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: get them anytime. So I have a hook up and

960
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: I'll get a note, Hey I got new shipment in

961
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: do you want to pair? And I say yeah, and

962
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: so I'll get them for for actual price, which is

963
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: super cheap compared to having to go online to pay

964
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: eight to um And so yeah, I'll keep it. I'll

965
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: keep eye on next because I don't always get that

966
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: because I don't. I have a bunch of shoes. I

967
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't say. I wouldn't say I'm a sneakerhead. No, but

968
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: I do enjoy shoes a lot. I like all shoes,

969
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 1: sneakerhead guys that just do tennis shoes, but I like

970
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: dress shoes like slides. So I'm just a shoe flip guy.

971
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: At times, I've got about three or four good and

972
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: I rotate them. What's I get a new pair of like,

973
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: I'll throw the last pair, donate them to do somewhere else.

974
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 1: You can't keep flip flosh? Can you get your flip printing?

975
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: Especially if you're taking them to like the beach and

976
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: go to the beach. Now, I went to Hawaii, hated it.

977
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm getting I'm not even miserable. I just I've never

978
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: been to ocean until I was probably twenty two years old, right,

979
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: because I never leave Arkansas until out of college, and

980
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: then I've never been to ocean. So what I gonna

981
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: do at the beach? And then it's salty and you

982
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: can't really swimming it because the waves. But you live up,

983
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: you loove up near a coast, you probably I grew

984
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: up going to the beach like skin board and we

985
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: would serve the hurricane skin boards skin boarding and skin

986
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: board skin boarding yea like skin boarding that sounds like

987
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: skin boarding in and we we would serve doing like

988
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: hurricanes because our ways won that big. And can you

989
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: serve a little bit? I wiped out a lot, And

990
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: I think the lungs I've ever still upon the surfboard

991
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: was like maybe like three seconds three maybe half. Maybe

992
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: you can't serve if you don't only send it three seconds. No,

993
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: But I go all the time, and I'm still bad

994
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: at it. But I just love it. Kept more as

995
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: a huge, huge and he I don't hang out with

996
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 1: really anybody in the industry keeps hey come out to Hawaii.

997
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 1: First of all, I don't hang out with it by Nashville.

998
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm don't want Hawaii to hang out with any but

999
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: I went out and uh. I told the story on

1000
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: the air and I got on standup peddle board. Looks

1001
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: like Grandma's doing it. I was like, man, could you

1002
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: stand up on it? Briefly? But the problem was, you

1003
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: know there's a you tied this rope to you so

1004
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: the board doesn't fly away. So I guess that's the

1005
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: thing because a wave crashes and the board shoots off.

1006
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: I had it tied to my wrist end of the

1007
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: difference supposed tied to your ankle, and so like, I'm

1008
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: an idiot and have the thing tied to my wrist

1009
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 1: and I can't fully get my balance. Many kid senys

1010
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: me a picture a video of him strapping it on

1011
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 1: his ankle over and over again. Alright, but I'm also

1012
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm an okay athlete, but I'm a hard worker, so

1013
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 1: I wasn't going enough athlete to get it at first.

1014
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: I can't stand up on us on a wakeboard. Oh,

1015
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: I can wakeboard, but that's a lake. So I grew

1016
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: up on lake. I wouldn't say a pro, but I

1017
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: got wait, I can wake skate. How do you get up? Like?

1018
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: I've never never to get my butt out of the

1019
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: water at all. Probably the same way. Yeah, it's it's

1020
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: it's tough. You hold your knees in tight and eventually

1021
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: it's like riding a bike where once you feel it,

1022
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: once you try to get back to that spot and

1023
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: you try to get up one and once you start

1024
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: to I don't know, it's hard to explain, but I

1025
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: think once I get up, I'll be great. It's just

1026
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: the getting up problem. Once you get up, you hardy

1027
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: to go. I'm up, I'm up. Boomah, what'd you get up?

1028
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: All right, dude, I'm gonna hear some of this. This

1029
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 1: is a Jimmy Allen, one of the first guy would

1030
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: run in for a guy, your girl for class, some

1031
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: good class issue. I think. So it's good over your

1032
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: bounce with you. But I'm not saying I'm a little

1033
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: bas because it's you know what I'm saying. Good, give

1034
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: him up. Shot, We've got some stuff for it. Come

1035
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: to all you we guys with we're gonna do stuff.

1036
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 1: This year is gonna be real cool, be real cooling.

1037
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: You want you try to say something over there, You're good,

1038
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: you have a quite you everything I want to say, Jimmy,

1039
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: we're good, You're good. We're hanging like, got a little

1040
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: deep there for a minute. Yeah, spill your emotions in

1041
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: this coat. Have a drink up my tears, Jimmy, and

1042
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 1: then tell me what you feel like they get. Yeah,

1043
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: Jimmy throws some stuff with a blackmailion with Yeah. I

1044
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: feel like it's good sometimes to just be real man

1045
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: and take some layers off, you know, I think I

1046
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: think it's important to do that. Time transparencies, how people

1047
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: love you the most and the unless you're my personal life,

1048
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: I'm completely transparent. And when you date me, I had

1049
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: more walls, so you want to get close to me.

1050
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: Enjoy these seven new walls. Yeah, okay, uh, well we'll see.

1051
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: We'll have you on soon, have on. We're gonna have

1052
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Speaker 1: you on the show real soon too, So man, looking

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Speaker 1: forward to it. But till you're out back tonight. More

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Speaker 1: radio tour, Yeah, more radio tour. How long you have,

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Speaker 1: Beny more weeks on this thing? Um? Well, one person

1056
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Speaker 1: told me till the end of Mars. The other person

1057
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Speaker 1: told me, and tell the rest of my life. Yeah,

1058
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Speaker 1: that's that's the rest of your life until you get it,

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Speaker 1: until you get a number one, and then then it's

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Speaker 1: always still even that still, man. It's just I really

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Speaker 1: enjoy meeting people like I love it, Like I can't

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Speaker 1: imagine doing anything else. I get the travel country and

1063
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: sing songs that made up like it doesn't get much

1064
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: better than that. So you come a long way a

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00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: long way. You've even just come a long way from

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Speaker 1: just in Nashville. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy, dude. I have

1067
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: so much more respect for you now, Like hearing your

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Speaker 1: story and I knew your story, I still didn't know

1069
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 1: your story. You know, we have somebody story tell you man,

1070
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Speaker 1: you really don't man, and you know hearing yours man

1071
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: about you know this, you know, getting the food stamp thing.

1072
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Speaker 1: And we used to have this stoopid Milton where we

1073
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: would get free lunches from you know. I mean one

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Speaker 1: time we had our electric shut off, and my mom

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00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: that week she said, uh, I acted like it was

1076
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Speaker 1: a camp out, Like I didn't know electric was off

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Speaker 1: until I got older. She told me, she said, hey,

1078
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: guys are gonna do like an indoor camp out for

1079
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: a week because the electric got shut off, you know.

1080
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: And one time we had nothing in the covered to

1081
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: eat but like crackers. And then his family from the

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Speaker 1: church came and brought us groceries. Save the life man.

1083
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: So you know hearing you, you know, tell your story

1084
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: like that, dude, I get it. But you know what

1085
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: you can do and it's something that I tried to

1086
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: do now, is that you can help people that were

1087
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: like you and they're like you. Now do you do that?

1088
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: You should do the dollar thing, man. I started this thing.

1089
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Speaker 1: The guy gave me a dollar changed my life. There's

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Speaker 1: one time when I was in my card and eat

1091
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: for two and a half days. Um my guy gave

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Speaker 1: me a dollar. I gotta make chicken a half on Wednesday,

1093
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: don't half on Thursday. So what I do now is

1094
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: I keep two dollars cash in my pocket on purpose

1095
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Speaker 1: and at the end of the day. By by the

1096
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: time of day is over, I have to give him

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Speaker 1: away if somebody asked me for it, or if I

1098
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: just see someone and give it to him. But I

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Speaker 1: have to get because that dollar can really change somebody's life. Man.

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Speaker 1: It's I used to think I was very selfish, and

1101
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Speaker 1: I still at time to take I'm selfish about the

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Speaker 1: causes that I support because they all are personal to me.

1103
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Speaker 1: I go, why don't I just help birds or something? Instead?

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Speaker 1: I want to help people that were likeing me, and

1105
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Speaker 1: I go, I'm just trying to help meet years ago.

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Speaker 1: But there's nothing wrong with that. I mostly feel that way.

1107
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Speaker 1: I still felt a bit selfish my high school. Recently,

1108
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Speaker 1: I didn't get to play ball a couple years because

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Speaker 1: I couldn't afford the shoes. And I was too embarrassed

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Speaker 1: that I couldn't afford the shoes, so I just didn't

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Speaker 1: play ball. And so I was like, I don't want

1112
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Speaker 1: to basketball because I could, I couldn't afford the shoes

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Speaker 1: to match, and I'd rather not tell anyone because there

1114
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Speaker 1: were years where church would bring food and they'd bring

1115
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Speaker 1: tris president because we didn't have any. And so what

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Speaker 1: I'm able to do now is I did it with

1117
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Speaker 1: my football team, or I bought the uniforms for the school,

1118
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Speaker 1: but I buy the entire basketball team shoes. Not because

1119
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Speaker 1: I wanted to buy the entire team shoes, because I

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Speaker 1: knew there were two kids that couldn't afford it, and

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Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna buy two kids shoes because then they're

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Speaker 1: the ones who, oh you go. So if I go, hey,

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Speaker 1: I can buy the whole team shoes, then it's just like,

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Speaker 1: oh wow, oh, bones know, he's crazy. He's got money.

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Speaker 1: But but that's not what it's about. It's not about

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Speaker 1: it's just those two kids that I don't that. I

1127
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Speaker 1: was one of those kids and it had people help

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Speaker 1: me out when I was younger. So it's that type

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Speaker 1: of thing and that was years ago. I'm not calling

1130
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Speaker 1: anybody out now, but uh yeah, man, like your your

1131
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Speaker 1: story is great, man, and I'm rooting for you. I

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Speaker 1: wasn't untill now, but I guess I will now. I

1133
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Speaker 1: guess I'm in because I'm in, all right, So check out,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Allen. This is the best shot. This is single

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Speaker 1: now before you. I'm not saying that I'm perfect, os girl,

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Speaker 1: you know I'm not put out every saying I'm good.

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Speaker 1: Give you my bishop, Mike. How long has been? We

1138
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Speaker 1: went longer than we thought. Damn, look at that we're

1139
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 1: ending up. You got person, Yeah, yeah, got the old

1140
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Speaker 1: rectal check. That's how personal. I got here. I got

1141
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Speaker 1: a hemorrhoid. You know, a real personal. We're going to

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Speaker 1: a medical history. Yeah all right, we'll see uh see

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Speaker 1: you next time. And thanks for our sponsors. This is

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Speaker 1: the Bobby Cast and now we'll talk to you soon.