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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's movie podcast. I

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Speaker 1: am in my tuxedo hoodie. Let's talk about the Oscars

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Speaker 1: last night. Biggest surprise was that a Nora swept. Didn't

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Speaker 1: really see that coming. I didn't feel confident in one

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Speaker 1: movie to dominate. I thought it was going to be

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Speaker 1: more scattered all over the place. If I had to

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Speaker 1: pick a heavy hitter going into the night, I thought

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Speaker 1: it was going to be The Brutalist. But the way

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Speaker 1: the Academy voted, I feel was a little bit more

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Speaker 1: progressive this year. Sometimes they just go with the movie

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Speaker 1: like The Brutalist because of what the movie stands for

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Speaker 1: and all those things that they look for in the movie.

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Speaker 1: I just thought that the momentum that Anra had from

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Speaker 1: the fans wasn't going to carry over into the voting.

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Speaker 1: I was wrong. It dominated. The other surprising thing to

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Speaker 1: me is I did not realize Sean Baker, the director

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Speaker 1: I think it's because a lot of his movies are

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Speaker 1: so sad and they have a very gloomy demeanor. It's

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Speaker 1: hard to see him up there except the Wars being

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Speaker 1: so joyful and I was like, oh man, I started

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Speaker 1: rooting for him, Like to see him win for Best

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Speaker 1: Director from Quentin Tarantino, one of the best directors of

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Speaker 1: all time. I have to imagine that was an awesome

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Speaker 1: moment for him, for anybody, like seeing Mikey Madison after

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Speaker 1: taking a picture with a glass of champagne and her oscar.

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Speaker 1: That is such a cool feeling. So I don't have

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Speaker 1: any connection to these people, but I think that's why

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Speaker 1: I love the Oscars, just because it's so hard to

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Speaker 1: win an Oscar out of all the award shows. Winning

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Speaker 1: an Oscar is like winning the MVP in the super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: Like a lot of people have Super Bowl rings, but

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Speaker 1: to get that MVP that's given out once a year

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Speaker 1: or so, to win the Oscar for Best Actor or

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Speaker 1: Best Actress that is given out to one person. I

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Speaker 1: was happy for everybody involved in Anora. But let's talk

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Speaker 1: about my predictions. How well I did. I was kind

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Speaker 1: of scattered all over the place. Hour one. I went perfect,

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Speaker 1: but I put so much of my eggs in the

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Speaker 1: brutalist basket because that's how I thought the Academy was

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Speaker 1: going to vote. Initially, I had the substance winning for

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Speaker 1: Best Picture, Honora took it home. It won five of

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Speaker 1: its six categories dominant, and I think for me, I

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Speaker 1: wanted The Substance to win so bad. I still love

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Speaker 1: that movie. I had a tier of movies in this

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Speaker 1: voting period that I really enjoyed, the Brutalist, and I

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Speaker 1: got behind that one more because that's how I thought

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Speaker 1: the Academy would vote. I love The Substance. The two

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Speaker 1: movies I feel from the category of Best Pictures that

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Speaker 1: that are people are going to actually come back to,

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Speaker 1: and some might even call it their favorite movies. It's

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Speaker 1: going to be The Substance and Anora. Now, the Substance

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Speaker 1: had a lot just against it is because the Academy

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Speaker 1: just doesn't vote for horror movies. So just for it

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Speaker 1: to get nominated, it was an honor in itself, really

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Speaker 1: hard for it to win, and I think at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day that is what held it back

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Speaker 1: That is when I got wrong. Best Actor. I said

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Speaker 1: there was no contest there. It was going to be

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Speaker 1: Adrian and Brody. If you look at everybody else here,

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Speaker 1: they all did great performances. Now they all did good performances.

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Speaker 1: He did a great performance. I feel as a whole

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Speaker 1: role aside from Adrian and Brody that I thought deserved it.

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Speaker 1: Even the clips they played a Timothy Shalomey as Bob

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Speaker 1: When I watched the movie, I thought he did a

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Speaker 1: pretty good job. I said, there were moments where you

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Speaker 1: could tell it was Timothy Schallomag and that bled through

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Speaker 1: Bob Dylan. But the clips they played, I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh man, could they have not picked better clips? Isolated?

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Speaker 1: He didn't seem as strong in that performance. But I

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Speaker 1: he'll get there again. I think a biopick. You don't

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Speaker 1: win it with just like your your performance, your own

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Speaker 1: here went to Adrian Brodie. I said that was easy.

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Speaker 1: Best Actress. Ah, Again, my heart wanted the substance to

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Speaker 1: She got it at the Golden Globes. But I could

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Speaker 1: Mikey Madison, being as young as she is, not even

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Speaker 1: Oscar win her first for Best Actress. That's amazing and

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Speaker 1: you can't help but root for her. You can't really

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Speaker 1: help but root for everybody behind the Nora. So wasn't

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Speaker 1: As opposed to Best Actor. The Best Actress category was stacked.

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Speaker 1: Everybody had amazing performances in that category. That was tough.

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Speaker 1: I wish they did. I know no award shows do this,

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Speaker 1: but if I could see some numbers, see the tallies

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Speaker 1: I would like to see how close that was, much

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Speaker 1: like to do for the President show us the percentages.

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Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people were complaining about

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Speaker 1: He had the world's record for the longest award show

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Speaker 1: speech at the Oscar. Five and a half minutes. Is

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Speaker 1: what I believe I would say, if they want to

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Speaker 1: no disrespect to them, it is cool to see those

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Speaker 1: and accept their awards. But also you have to move

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Speaker 1: then whoever is behind you in votes, they suddenly get

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Speaker 1: know this will take away from the artistry of the Oscars,

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Speaker 1: but it would make the show more entertaining. It would

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Speaker 1: But just my idea to make it a little bit

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Speaker 1: But I was glad to see Mikey win four Best

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Speaker 1: Karen Kolkin, he was the standout here. To me, I

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Speaker 1: his speech. He is very kere and holkan in all

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Speaker 1: I feel like he is that a little bit off camera,

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Speaker 1: but him telling his wife and not bringing it up

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Speaker 1: fourst kid if they're up for it. Best Actress in

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Speaker 1: a Supporting Role, I got that one. Rise always Alnana.

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Speaker 1: She was very emotional in her speech to the point

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Speaker 1: much Amelia Perez's only win. They also won for song,

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Speaker 1: Substance in all these categories. But it went to Sean

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Speaker 1: pretty hard last night because he is a really innovative director.

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Speaker 1: He has made movies for I believe they made a

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Speaker 1: Nora for eight million dollars, So that kind of shows

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Speaker 1: you that just have that vision, you have that passion

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Speaker 1: Like giving me some inspiration there. I think that is

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Speaker 1: I thought no Saratu would win for that. I thought

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Speaker 1: empty handed the Brutalist one for that, and I thought

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Speaker 1: the cinematography and the Brutalist was good, but I guess

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Speaker 1: The craziest thing about that scene that wasn't even like

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Speaker 1: Statue of Liberty shot one. I'm that Oscar for Best

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Speaker 1: International Film. I thought Amelia Perez would get this, just

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Speaker 1: I didn't think they were gonna win too many awards.

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Speaker 1: They weren't gonna win the big ones. I thought this

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Speaker 1: You have to bring in movies that people do know

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Speaker 1: Why not throw a tribute to Shrek in there, attribute

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Speaker 1: They win the Oscar, and then we just got to

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Speaker 1: You got to bring in more musical acts. So that

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