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Speaker 1: When at least He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson on your home of the Black and Gold

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly

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Speaker 1: here with Matt Williams and uh, Matt, it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a something we haven't seen in a month almost. It's

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Speaker 1: a it's a victory Monday here in Pittsburgh. And uh,

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Speaker 1: well the weather warmed up, was not nearly as cold

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Speaker 1: as it was just day. I wonder if it was

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Speaker 1: the deep freeze that we were stuck in there the

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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. Was that because the Steelers weren't

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Speaker 1: winning football games? Yeah, there's some kind of the only

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Speaker 1: thing I can think of. Who's the heat maister or whatever?

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Speaker 1: Some kind of Christmas mean guy that freezes everything came

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Speaker 1: came by for a couple of a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: and made made everybody miserable. And now Christmas Joy has

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Speaker 1: come and warmed everybody up and warmed all the cockles

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Speaker 1: of our hearts. Yeah, the Steelers are now a f

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Speaker 1: C North champions. They had three chances to uh to

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Speaker 1: do that. They finally, uh, they finally knocked the door

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Speaker 1: down and beat the Indianapolis coltson I'll be quite frank

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Speaker 1: with you, after watching the first half of that game

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, I was not I would not have been

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Speaker 1: on that happening, uh, the way that game was going.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I did say this on we have

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Speaker 1: a like a little running uh group chat where we

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Speaker 1: do commentary on d K Pittsburgh sports dot com during

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Speaker 1: the game, and I noted this Matt at the end

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Speaker 1: of the half. The three throws that Roethlisberger made when

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Speaker 1: they got ball back with with very little time left

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Speaker 1: and a half, Uh, it was a deep deep ball

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Speaker 1: to Deante Johnson that Johnson um broke in on instead

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Speaker 1: of he took inside leverage instead of staying outside, and

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger threw it to the outside. Um, if he stays

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Speaker 1: outside on that, it might be a touchdown. And then

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Speaker 1: the two throws right after that did Juju Smith Schuster,

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Speaker 1: I think it was gains of eighteen and seventeen yards.

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Speaker 1: Um kind of open things up. I thought for the

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Speaker 1: Steelers are like, hey, wait, we can do this. We

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Speaker 1: can make we can make these kind of throws against

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Speaker 1: these guys because it's not like that, It's not like

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Speaker 1: the culture and a prevent in that situation. But all

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Speaker 1: that the entire first half, I'm watching that game and

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Speaker 1: at the snap of the ball, on every play, the

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Speaker 1: Colts safeties were coming forward. And then in the second half,

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Speaker 1: after they started making some of those downfield throws, you

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Speaker 1: you saw that middle open up a little bit more

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Speaker 1: because they backed the safeties off the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: It's a really good observation by because I'll be very honest,

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Speaker 1: I mean that part of the game I was screaming

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Speaker 1: to coach Tomlin for not using time outs and didn't

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Speaker 1: understand that at all. And I don't mean to start

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Speaker 1: with a negative. And at that point I had looked

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Speaker 1: at the Steelers performance in the first half and thought,

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Speaker 1: this team is gonna be eleven and six. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: be one and done in the playoffs. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a six game losing street after winning eleven. What a shame.

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Speaker 1: They're really in a bad place. But as you were

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Speaker 1: just saying that right now, I'm picturing those plays in

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Speaker 1: my head, going, yeah, I mean he was taking shots,

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Speaker 1: the ball came out of his hands, well they were

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Speaker 1: Maybe that was the door opening up finally, or the

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Speaker 1: light shining in realizing this is what I need to do.

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Speaker 1: And I'm really stressing Ben more than they here, I'm

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Speaker 1: saying him not absolutely, Yeah, I mean they're so dependent

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Speaker 1: for rich or poor. And once that light went on

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Speaker 1: for him, and you know, you you really late it

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Speaker 1: out last week about all his slow starts. And sometimes

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Speaker 1: the slow stars last a quarter, sometimes they last half,

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Speaker 1: they always are there once. And while they lost the

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Speaker 1: whole game like Cincinnati, and you're right, I mean that

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Speaker 1: probably was a turning point because they had to throw,

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Speaker 1: you had to be aggressive, and he did and maybe

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Speaker 1: that was just kind of breaking the seal. As I

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Speaker 1: said in my in my ten thoughts of the game today, Uh,

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Speaker 1: one thing you always hear from from coaches in any

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Speaker 1: sports shooters. Shoot. If you're a home run hitter, you

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Speaker 1: swing for the fence, you know what I mean, You're

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Speaker 1: sling the football down the field. And I think Roethlisberger decided,

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Speaker 1: I've done my entire career enough of this dinking and

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Speaker 1: ducket and he and he's still there were still, you know,

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Speaker 1: some short passes in the second half. They're good at it.

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Speaker 1: And and you saw the room that was created again

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Speaker 1: points late in the third quarter. But they could have

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Speaker 1: the safeties off the line of scrimmage. They also backed

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Speaker 1: that first half, Uh, there was a number of times

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Speaker 1: then they would back a couple of guys off at

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm Ben Roethlisberger and I'm looking to

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Speaker 1: they're showing a blitz. Well then they you know, they

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Speaker 1: weren't blitzing. The Colts don't blitz and so you know,

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Speaker 1: you take those shots and and he finally started hitting them.

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Speaker 1: And I think that bodes well for the rest of

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Speaker 1: the season. That if he can play like that, this

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Speaker 1: is a dangerous football team. Yeah, you're right, you know

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Speaker 1: play downhill, I mean first first, much easier to go forward. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that. And if you can change that mindset,

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Speaker 1: that in itself has a lot of value. And I

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Speaker 1: think we should pat ourselves on the back a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how many hours on the air here do

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Speaker 1: we talk the last two or three weeks about. The

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Speaker 1: key to the run game is the deep passing game,

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Speaker 1: the intermediate passing game. Even if you have a great

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Speaker 1: you're you're not gonna run people out of the style

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Speaker 1: of defense they've been playing. You're gonna have to pass

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Speaker 1: to open the run. It's not gonna be the other

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Speaker 1: pretty decent back. Yeah, I thought that they did well

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Speaker 1: You know, we we saw some of that beneficial too.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely true. And I think Benny snells okay at that,

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Speaker 1: but Connor's really good at it. That's one thing that

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Speaker 1: just thought he showed a nice feel for getting out

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Speaker 1: you know, Connor didn't have a monster game. He had

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Speaker 1: ten touches though for sixty yards. Oh yeah, he was helped. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: again is not that's not what you're looking for. But again,

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Speaker 1: And I actually kind of looked at that big picture,

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Speaker 1: you saw that with Taylor yesterday exactly. I mean maybe

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Speaker 1: He falls forward. Um, that's that's a I noted that

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Speaker 1: is guy's we're gonna try to run you over, and

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Speaker 1: all too often Benny still again missing holes, uh and

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Speaker 1: that's the decision. Yeah, that decisiveness, and when they do

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Speaker 1: hit it, it's way different than what the Steelers have absolutely,

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Speaker 1: that's goal number one in the off season is to

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Speaker 1: terms of possessing the football, taking some shots down the field.

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Speaker 1: and especially after the book was written on them. You know,

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Speaker 1: it took a little while, but I'm sure there's people

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Speaker 1: out there saying, well, boy, Glad Feating are finally opening

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Speaker 1: and figured this stuff out. I don't think that's what happened,

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Speaker 1: And Randy Feaker is not gonna come out and criticize

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger straight out, but he did say last week,

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Speaker 1: you know, Ben's important to this offense. He's the guy

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Speaker 1: who throws the football. Yeah, and that's correct. You can

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Speaker 1: But if the quarterback won't throw it, it's you're never

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Speaker 1: gonna You're never going to complete it. Yeah, you can

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Speaker 1: have five guys run, you know, it's just if he's

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Speaker 1: But if you're seeing open receivers, the play called the

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Speaker 1: they can't execute for you. And I fear that I'm

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Speaker 1: I want you to put on your your coaching uh

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Speaker 1: agree on these who you got that you would sit out. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if Spillane comes back, you can't afford to get Vince Williams,

424
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 1: hurt Um and Terrell Edmonds. Um, you can play Sean David. Yeah,

425
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 1: you could play Sean Davis and Jordan Dangerfield at safety

426
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: and be okay, that's not a bad one. He gets

427
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 1: overlooked with his importance, the amount of time he's been

428
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: on the field since he's been a professional football player

429
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: and including this year. I mean, he's always out there.

430
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: He's young. You don't think about him in that light.

431
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: But if Tomlin would pull him aside and say would

432
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: you rather sit or would you rather play? Be honest

433
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 1: with me, I mean, you're not gonna lose any tough

434
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: guy points. He probably says I'll take the break, don't

435
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 1: you think. I mean most guys would. I think he

436
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 1: would say I'll play. But that's that's just knowing how

437
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 1: he is. I mean, he doesn't want to come off

438
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: the field. But I think I think you could get

439
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: some valuable playing time for not that Davis necessarily needs it. Um,

440
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 1: we've been seen a lot of them. We haven't seen

441
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: a lot of them. I'm sure Davis will would like

442
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: to to get some tape out there. Um, you know,

443
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: even if it's just a one game. But to me,

444
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: I mean Dangerfield and Davis is not a horrible backup plan.

445
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: I you know, I think you're okay there with those guys. Yeah,

446
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: you're certainly okay with those guys. I think, you know

447
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: in the cornerback position, Yeah, you've got you've got Cam Sutton,

448
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: you got justin Lane, you got James Pierre Um and

449
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: you've got you know, I can't see sitting Mike Hilton

450
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: in this game. I was thinking him too, But maybe

451
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: you do that too, and you go with those, you

452
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 1: go with those other four corners and the other approach

453
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: you could take, because this isn't to take a sidetrack,

454
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: but you could dress Hilton or Vince not just in case. Yeah,

455
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 1: because you don't want to. You can't, that's the thing.

456
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you could. You could dress Tyson and Luilu

457
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: as well, exactly just in case something happens one of them,

458
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: because you're only gonna have four. You can't. You can't

459
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: go into the game with just for defensive lineman. Um.

460
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: You know, maybe, but that doesn't mean you have to

461
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 1: play the guy unless you're absolutely, you know, positively need

462
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: to do it. Yeah, I mean you have there's only

463
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: so many inactive spots you might as well address. Some

464
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: of these people were mentioning, including like a villain a wave. Yeah,

465
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: just you can't be putting tight ends to tackle if

466
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: you have injuries hit you or something like that. So

467
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: maybe that's the approach. Or hey, Vince played the first

468
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: series and we plan on shutting you down in case

469
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: of emergency, or you know, or just we're interesting to

470
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: shut you down in case of emergency, or you know,

471
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: all these guys will be playing every snap of special

472
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: teams to your Davis and danger fields and all the

473
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 1: outside linebackers were talking about to play and so they're

474
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: gonna get somebody's gonna twist an ancle or you know

475
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: what I mean, right right? Um, I think yeah, I

476
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: definitely think you need that defense needs to be intact

477
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: going into the PLAYFFS. They can't afford another major injury

478
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: on defense. So you you you gotta rest as many

479
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: of those guys as possible offensively. You know, this is

480
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 1: a chance to take a look at Anthony McFarland. Yeah,

481
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 1: it's a chance just to see what he can do.

482
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: This is a chance to to see Okay, uh, you know, um,

483
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: if if let's let's say Juju or let let's say

484
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: you sit the Aunte Johnson or Juju or one of

485
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: those guys. Hey, Chase Claypool, can you be the number

486
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: one receiver in this game and you be the guy

487
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: that carries a load? Yeah? Can it be? You know

488
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: what if we put you in James Washington out there,

489
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: because hey, you know, after this season, let's say Juju

490
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: is gone in free agency. There could be a lot

491
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: of times next year we're Chase Claypool and James Washington

492
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: are on the field together with Rayray McLeod. Yeah, I mean,

493
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: this is Bowl game practice time. Play your freshman to

494
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: see if they can step up, or do we have

495
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: to go get a J C guy to come into

496
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 1: left guard or whatever? You know what I mean, Right,

497
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,479
Speaker 1: it's valuable. I mean, you don't brush this week off

498
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: like a let's just get out of it healthy. I

499
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: don't care what happens. I think you go in with

500
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: a specific strategy for the long term. Then here's a

501
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: little more Kevin Colbert front office influence than coaching influence

502
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 1: to win this game of let's get sixty snaps of

503
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 1: McFarland of you know, let's see twelve fifteen targets for Claypool.

504
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: I think we already know this answer. But if Gentry

505
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: had showed more, maybe Gentry could be your starting tight

506
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: end on you know, from start to finish. Although I

507
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: think that ship has probably say you know what I mean,

508
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: but guy, you know, umh one of those I'm a

509
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: little worried about, because all of a sudden he has

510
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: immense value too. But I don't think you the luxury

511
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 1: is sitting him is high smith, you know, like they'd

512
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: be in trouble if he twists an ankle or something.

513
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: But he's not in that category. He can't be steading.

514
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: He's not. And I think, you know, signing Cassius Marsh

515
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago not so bad. I mean,

516
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: there's a guy who at least has some starting experience

517
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: in the league and and has done some stuff, so

518
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: you have a little bit of you know, room to

519
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: play with there. But Highsmith, I think can only benefit

520
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 1: for more playing time. Yeah, it might help him more

521
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: than hurt him. Yeah, especially you know, we'll see what happens.

522
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: You know, the Browns put their left tackle on on

523
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: the COVID list. You know, I don't you know what

524
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 1: the situation is, will he be back or not? But

525
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: certainly in that kind of situation, you know, can Highsmith

526
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: continue to build on what he's already doing? Can he?

527
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: You know, by the third quarter, right they get you know,

528
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: by the end of that game, they were doubling him.

529
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: I went back and looked at the tape. I mean

530
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: the last play where he affected the throw from Philip Rivers,

531
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: forced a bad throw and hit and hit Rivers. They

532
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: doubled him. They had the running back come over and

533
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: chip him instead of lot because they knew their left

534
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: tackle was was not good. Uh, and so you know

535
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: they came. They came over with Hines to put a

536
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: chip on him, and instead Highsmith put an inside move

537
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: on him and spun to the inside and got the

538
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: hit on the quarterback. So there's some reality there. Um,

539
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: he just needs to finish some of these plays. So

540
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: I think there's some definite benefit to playing him in

541
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: this football game. There's no choice. I mean, he's definitely playing.

542
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: I just would hate to lose him because I was

543
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: very impressed with him. Yeah, I think he has a

544
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: potential to be a long term book end of t J.

545
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: He's way exceeded my expectation expectations. I thought he was

546
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: a very effective pass rusher yesterday and flash that even

547
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: before he became a starter. Uh, I need some work

548
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: about just being a very powerful edge setter in the

549
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: run game. And he'll he'll still bite on you know,

550
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: some quarterback keepers and things like that. But he hasn't

551
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: played much football. Yeah, I mean that's especially at a

552
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: at a high level. I mean, you know, you just

553
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: you're just not He's just not there yet. So every

554
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: game that he can get under his belt I think

555
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: is beneficial, which is why I play him in this

556
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: football game. Um, he's sitting. Let's see what happens. I

557
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: was just gonna bring it up. We'll see what happens

558
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: with Boswell. But I don't see any need. I mean,

559
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: if he's dealing with a groin issue, that that I think,

560
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, could linger here. I don't play him again

561
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: this week. I think I think you just go with

562
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: Matthew right right. And I don't think writes a great

563
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: kickoff guy. He he's a borderline NFL type kicker. In

564
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: the world of kickers, he's a backup kicker if there

565
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: really is a thing. But in COVID world, he's there.

566
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: You need a backup kicker, and he's fine in that capacity.

567
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: There's an obvious drop off. But if Boss has anything

568
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: wrong with them, sit him. Yeah, I agree, I would not.

569
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: I would not the risk that at all because he's

570
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: you know, you play the game. You mentioned the the

571
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: the end of the first half stuff. Um, I really

572
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: think that's why Tomlin saved his time out in that situation,

573
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: thinking that, Okay, are we gonna be able to execute

574
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: if we only have one time out? Running Matthew right

575
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: onto the field and getting a field go off uh time,

576
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: because he just hasn't really done. They practiced that, but

577
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: they practice it with Boswell. Yeah, so you know, and

578
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: Boswell didn't go on the injury report until last Friday,

579
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: so you wouldn't really have had a chance to practice

580
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: with Matthew right in that situation a whole lot. So

581
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: you know, I think that played a part in that.

582
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be interesting, and you know, I'm sure

583
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin will give us more of insight, uh perhaps

584
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: into what he's thinking on that. And I think perhaps

585
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, what Buffalo does tonight against New England may

586
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: have a factor in that as well. Yeah, and it

587
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: certainly is carries a little bit of weight. Um too

588
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: quick questions for you, would you play Daubs the fourth

589
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: quarter or a series or zero? Or would you get

590
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: him any snaps? It wouldn't be my main concern, um,

591
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: you know, unless unless Rudolph just getting beaten up. Um,

592
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: you know, they can't block for him and he's a

593
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: sitting duck back there, then maybe you know, you you

594
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: you pull him and say, hey, we're just we're looking

595
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: up for your long term health here, you're you're our

596
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: number two. Let's put Josh in there and let him

597
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: run around a little bit Uh, but yeah, that's not

598
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: that's not a major concern for me in this game. Yeah,

599
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: I would love to come out of this game thinking

600
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm a little more confident now with Rudolph as my

601
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: number two, not my successor next year, because you know,

602
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: we we just haven't seen it because with no preseason,

603
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: he hasn't had a chance to show us if he's

604
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: any better. Really, I don't really don't know that answer yet. Yeah,

605
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: And you know, you get asked that question a lot,

606
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: and you can't tell from practice. Rudigious can't not when

607
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: they're you know, most of the time running the other

608
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: team's stuff. That that just doesn't tell you a whole

609
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: lot about that situation. So we'll see again when Mike

610
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: Tomlin addresses the media tomorrow. Uh, you know what his

611
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: feelings are in that. But that's like, I think that's

612
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: how we're both leading. Is definitely I would sit guys,

613
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: no heavily. And then I guess my last question for

614
00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: you left the right, what's your starting offensive line look like? Uh? Uh,

615
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: it gets a little, it gets a little hair. If

616
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit uh, if I'm gonna sit a core four,

617
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: or I'm gonna sit Villaneueva. I'm putting a core four

618
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: at left tackle. Uh, I'll have Danny as a Dora. No,

619
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: I guess you have. You have Dawson left guard, Um,

620
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: you have Haws and I aren't center. Danny is a

621
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: Dora at the right guard, and then Hawkins at left

622
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: tack or right tackle? Can Hawkins? I mean my only

623
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: issue with that is why not just leave Chookes it

624
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: right and Hawkins it left? Well, I think you want

625
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: to see. Can you see can you can choos can

626
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: choose play left tackle? You know he's there's Villaneueva is

627
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: gonna be a free agent at the end of the year.

628
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: Is a core for your your your answer long term

629
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: at left tackle? Or do you is that Zach Banner?

630
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: What do you need to do there? Do you need

631
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: to go draft to left tackle? Because that's you know,

632
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: that's not easy. Um, much easier to find a guy

633
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: to play right tackle. Um, you know, maybe maybe a

634
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Speaker 1: core force better on the left side. You just haven't

635
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: gotten to see it now. I mean, I know he

636
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: has experience, he's done both. I just wouldn't want to.

637
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: My only thought with that is why mess him up

638
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: with his footwork and his punches and stuff like that.

639
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: To hear you, I hear you on that. And there's

640
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: also this. You know, Villa Nueva's uh tied for the

641
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: second longest consecutive games played streak and uh at at

642
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 1: the offensive tackle position in the NFL. Uh. So maybe

643
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: he won't want to sit, Maybe he takes maybe he

644
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: takes some pride in the and he just wants to

645
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: go out there and play. Yeah, he seems one. You like,

646
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: you have to dress at least back to that conversation, Yeah, yeah,

647
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be interesting. We'll see easy. No, it's

648
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: it's not. And again, if you do all that, you

649
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: don't have anybody on the bench, No, not at all,

650
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: and your special teams are light and yeah right you

651
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: got issues, Yeah, you got issues there. So some of

652
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: those guys are going to have to dress us and

653
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes. But he is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to the drive here on

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Uh. The Steelers, of course, clinched the

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Speaker 1: a f C North playoff spot or a FC North

657
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: championship on Sunday. Let's take a look at that playoff

658
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Speaker 1: picture and what might happen this week. When we return

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Speaker 1: right after this your Tunes About Drive on Home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio, we are back

661
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: Dale Lally here with Matt Williamson here on the drive

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00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 1: and Matt looking at the a f C and NFC

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Speaker 1: playoff pictures as things currently stand, this of course, before

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Speaker 1: tonight's game where the Bills play at New England Kansas City.

665
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: The one seed at fourteen and one, although they struggled

666
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: mightily yesterday against the Falcons, uh and haven't really looked

667
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: quite as I mean, you know, they look good at

668
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: times against New Orleans two weeks ago. Um, yesterday, they

669
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: just kind of slept walk through that game. The two

670
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: seed right now as the Steelers at twelve and three.

671
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: Of course, Buffalo holds that tiebreaker. If they win tonight,

672
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: they move up into that two seed and the Steelers

673
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: fall to the three. The four seed is Tennessee despite

674
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: losing yesterday. The five seed is Miami of all teams,

675
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: the six, yeah, the six is Baltimore, and the seven

676
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: is Cleveland over in the NFC. The culture on the

677
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: outside looking in Green Bay's number one seed in the NFC.

678
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: Two is New Orleans, three is Seattle. Four is Washington

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00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: at six and nine. Five is Tampa. Six is the Rams,

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00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: who are seemed to be in trouble, might not have

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00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: golf and if that's a broken thumb, as some people

682
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: were saying, they might have the rest of the year. Uh.

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00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: This in the seventh seed the Chicago Bears. Yeah, I

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00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: mean arizonas on the outside looking in. Arizona isn't so

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00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: really that you know, if you look at it that

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00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: the Rams, uh game against Arizona next week is almost

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00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: a winner. You know, that's a playoff game. It's a

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Speaker 1: playoff game. So let's assume I think we both assumed

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Speaker 1: that Buffalo is going to win tonight. I think so,

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00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: and I think they'll win huge, to be very honest

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00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: with you. And then I think they'll rest everyone next week.

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Speaker 1: So here's what that does end too the a f

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Speaker 1: C playoff picture. Buffalo moves up to the two seats.

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Speaker 1: They would play Cleveland in the opening round. The Steelers

695
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: are moved down to the three seat. They would play

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Speaker 1: Baltimore in the first round. Tennessee Miami. Uh, stays the same.

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Speaker 1: But let's then move on to week seventeen. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: got Miami at Buffalo. Who do you like in that game?

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Speaker 1: I just assume Buffalo Buffalo Nation Radio is having the

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00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: same conversation we just did. I'm sitting now and I'm

701
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: sitting Diggs saying a lot. I agree, And if Miami

702
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: needs it to stay alive, then I like Miami. They

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00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: say Miami wins. Let's say Miami wins at football game. Uh,

704
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Speaker 1: that game doesn't affect it. Okay, Baltimore is at Cincinnati.

705
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: I think we can assume that Baltimore wins that game.

706
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's on two game winning streak. Cincinnati's is on the

707
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: two game winning streak, and a couple of years ago,

708
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: Baltimore went to CINCINNI played Cincinnati needing to win the game,

709
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: and the bank Wills beat them to knock them out

710
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Speaker 1: of the playoffs. But let's just for the sake of arguments,

711
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: the Baltimore wins that game. Yeah, Okay, Steelers in Cleveland.

712
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: Let's say the Steelers do rest. Everybody in Cleveland wins

713
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: that game. I would think so. But yeah, I remember

714
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: the year I was working for the Brownies and one

715
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: Willie Parker exploded in Week seventeen against the Bill. Absolutely,

716
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: it happens, it does happen, and along those lines, somebody

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00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: will be a Willie Parker in a week seventeen where

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Speaker 1: you go, Yes, somebody's somebody one of these teams to

719
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: get a loose. Okay, let's say Titans play the Texans. Texans,

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Speaker 1: Titans win that game, less win that games? Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: because they need to win the game that to win

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Speaker 1: the division. H Let's say the Colts beat the Jaguars. Agreed,

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Speaker 1: they have they have owned Lawrence at this point. Yeah,

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00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: Kansas City probably plays their guys because they get the

725
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 1: buy wrapped up. So they're playing the Chargers really for something,

726
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: but they can't nothing, No, they yet. If that's how

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00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: things go, nothing changes in the playoff picture to the

728
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Speaker 1: Steelers host Baltimore, the Steelers the host Baltimore. So the

729
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: matchups will be Cleveland at Buffalo, Baltimore at Pittsburgh, Miami

730
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Speaker 1: at Tennessee. Okay, that's my least favorite team to play

731
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Speaker 1: of the potential ones. And I think, yeah, I think

732
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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin takes the proper approach to this. We respect

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, but we don't fear him. M hm No,

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Speaker 1: without question, I think they give him the hardest time

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Speaker 1: of anyone that he's faced as a pro. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: so um, you know, I think that's the likely how

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Speaker 1: things likely happen in this game. Let's say, for example, okay,

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Speaker 1: let's say Buffalo finds a way to instead beat Miami

739
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Speaker 1: that puts the Colts in the playoffs as the seventh seat.

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Speaker 1: I know thee just beat the Colts, but I would

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Speaker 1: rather the kind of go back on the Tomlin thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't respect or fear the Dolphins are Browns. I respect,

743
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Speaker 1: I respect the Colts. I respect and fear the Ravens

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00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: from a fan's perspective, you know what I mean. I

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00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: don't like Yeah, you know what I mean. Let's say

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Speaker 1: let's say that the Steelers would happen to beat Cleveland. Well,

747
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: now they move up to the two seed. The seventh

748
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: seed is the Colts. Baltimore then goes to Buffalo in

749
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: Miami remains the five seat. That's what you want, but

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Speaker 1: not enough to not rest your guys to do it right.

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00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: That would be nice because Baltimore would be And then

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Speaker 1: if Baltimore beats the Bills, Baltimore goes to Kansas City

753
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: in which two that's what you want, unless you want

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Speaker 1: Baltimore in the playoffs because they can hurt your opponents,

755
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: but they can hurt you too. Obviously at some point

756
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to play Baltimore though, if they hurt

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00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: your opponents enough, you know what I mean. I mean,

758
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have an easy road no matter what.

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00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: Especially No, it's the playoffs. I mean that's yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens, Miami and Cleveland. If they win, they're in.

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Speaker 1: If they lose, they could, they're they They're not out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Colts could with the Colts bump all

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Speaker 1: three of them. With the Colts win and a lost,

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Speaker 1: any of those three, well I lost. Yeah, okay, I

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Speaker 1: just did this. Now I'm looking here to play. So

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Speaker 1: let's say Buffalo wins, Pittsburgh wins all of a sudden.

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00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: Now that changes things. Buffalo remains the two seed. Buffalo

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Speaker 1: plays Miami at ten and six. The Steelers then play

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Speaker 1: the Colts, and Baltimore jumps up to the five seat.

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Speaker 1: I think that's highly unrealistic though, that Baltimore and I

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00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: don't see that happening either. But if if that were

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Speaker 1: to happen, that's what would happen. So the steel the

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00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: Steelers would still be the three c but they would

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Speaker 1: get instead Indianapolis and then Baltimore would go to Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: If you're if you're the Bills, is that is that

776
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: enough to get? Do you want Miami in the playoffs?

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00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: Would you like to play Miami again? I would think so.

778
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: I think everyone wants to avoid Baltimore. But I don't

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00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 1: think the Steelers are Bills change their who's active, who

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00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: to rest? Enough for just that? Yeah, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. See, I don't know that. I I don't

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00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: know that. I mean, Baltimore is a good team, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know. But I don't know that there is

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Speaker 1: good as they've been the last couple of weeks. I

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00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: think some of that. Some of that's who they played too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about this before they started a stretch.

787
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: They're gonna win their last three games, and everybody just say, oh,

788
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,479
Speaker 1: they're back. You know, they're they're suddenly world beaters again. Yeah.

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00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's necessarily true. I still think

790
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 1: there are some fundamental issues with that team that there's

791
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: there's some flaws with that team that they don't fix.

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00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: They haven't fixed through The Ravens are better than the

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00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: two thousand, twenty Ravens. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. I think that

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Speaker 1: they can run the ball a little bit better because

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00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: Dobbins is a better back than Ingram, But they don't

796
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: throw them behind a little, you know, like they're they're

797
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: overcoming some of their issues, but they still don't. They

798
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: don't throw the ball as well as they did last year,

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Speaker 1: and they're not as good defensively as they were last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree with all that. I mean, I'm not suggesting

801
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: that they're gonna knock off the Steelers or their bills

802
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: and then go to Kansas City and wipe the floor

803
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 1: with them and then beat the Packers in the Super Bowl.

804
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: But they just scare me more than the Colts, Miami

805
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: or Cleveland, and a lot of that just because I

806
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of respect for my Cleveland. I mean,

807
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: they're doing good things, but I don't think they're going

808
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: the gaming. I don't think they're being anyone in the

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00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: first round. I don't think that you have to. I mean,

810
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: we've seen it with Baltimore the last two years. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's a reason why, you know, Lamar has not learned

812
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Speaker 1: how to to win the playoff ship. You don't want

813
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: that to be this year. If you're playing him, but

814
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: there is there are steps that have to be taken there,

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Speaker 1: and you know he's made some Well, you know, last

816
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: two years ago, they lost that playoff game because Lamar

817
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: did not play well. It was a lot to do

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Speaker 1: with the charge to the Chargers last year. I thought

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00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: he played okay, he played better than he had the

820
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: year as a rookie, but everybody else around him wasn't

821
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Speaker 1: ready for that game. There's a lot of turnovers, failed

822
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Speaker 1: four point fourth DOWND conversions, things like that. Yeah, you know,

823
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: running into Derrick Henry was the last guy they wanted

824
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Speaker 1: to see two. Yeah, you know right now, I don't know.

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00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: I mean, they're banged up in the secondary um, but

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Speaker 1: I think Lamar will be better this time around than

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00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yes, just to take a step back to

828
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Speaker 1: last segment, I was going to mention that about Josh

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00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: Allen too, you know that. Do I really care if

830
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: the Steelers are two or three or half to go

831
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: to Buffalo? Allen's had a much better year than bad.

832
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: He's had a much better year than just about anybody.

833
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: But is he ready to swim with the Sharks getting

834
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Speaker 1: the playoffs or is he ded a year you know

835
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Speaker 1: what I mean. Now I hear you on that one too,

836
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Speaker 1: But it should be interesting. It should be interesting to

837
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: see what happens over in the NFC as well. But

838
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: that's all to be played out yet. Can you inter

839
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: to real quick? Yeah, if if the Colts win and

840
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: any of those other three wild card teams lose, are

841
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: they out? The Colts get in? I think so, yeah,

842
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: because the Colts will get to eleven and five and

843
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: one of those other teams it would be a tenant six. Yeah.

844
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: And you know what kind of interesting too, is imagine

845
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: if there wasn't seven playoff spots, this would be yeah,

846
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: just be nuts and it's completely I mean, you'd have

847
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: would be battling for that by and they would be

848
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: playing for anybody in week seventeen, and then two really

849
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 1: good teams that double did you wins would be out. Yeah.

850
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: It goes back to the to the story about the

851
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 1: the uh, the Buccaneers a few years ago when Raheem

852
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: Morris was their coach and uh, you know, they just

853
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs at nine and seven. So they get

854
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: t shirts made up and said in the tenant six

855
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: on them for training camp and then lo and behold

856
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: they went ten and six that year, but they still

857
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs. I mean, it happens. You know, you

858
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: you your goal is to make the playoffs. Your goal

859
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: is not to get to any level of wins. You know.

860
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: We just want to have a winning season, or we

861
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: want to get the ten wins. Ten wins doesn't get

862
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: you in sometimes and eleven wins this year might not

863
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: get somebody in. Yeah. And on the other side of

864
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: the coin, if this was a year ago or two

865
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: years ago under these rules, would be like bounce yours

866
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs. We'll see what happens. They've been

867
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: se right, so um yeah, it's gonna be gonna be interesting.

868
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: Can't wait for that to start. But we got another

869
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: game left to uh to get out of the way. Here,

870
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. He is Matt Williamson. I'm

871
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: Dale Lolly. We're gonna talk fantasy football in the next segment. Uh,

872
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: Matt had some good d some good stuff happened to

873
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: you over the weekend in fantasy football. We'll talk about

874
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: that when we return right after this. Welcome back. I'm

875
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: Dale Ally here with Matt Williamson and Matt. There were

876
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: some guys this week that if you had them, you

877
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: were going to win no matter what. You had one

878
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: of those guys in a couple of your Dynasty leagues,

879
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: did you not, Well, Yes, I had a really good week.

880
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: And first of all, I'm in seven Dynasty leagues, made

881
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: the super Bowl and three, which is pretty impressive. I

882
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 1: must say, had Kamara in all three of those, and

883
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: two were locked up. I just needed a couple of

884
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: little I need Josh Allen to get more points than

885
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox tonight, things like that. But the other one

886
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: I lost, and he had all the other guys that

887
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: blew up, like I had Kamara, and I'm like, I

888
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: got this thing locked up. But what's interesting is like

889
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: all the Saturday games had a guy like that too,

890
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: Like he had Mike Evans, he had Gascon's and he

891
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: had Wilson with the Niners. Like there was a couple

892
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: of monster performances out there. And even with that, I

893
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: was going into last night's game, I had already had Kamara.

894
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: We were tied. Going in the last night's game, he

895
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: had Davante Adams and I had Aaron Jones and Derrick Henry.

896
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: I'm like Adams, I lost, and I lost bad, and

897
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: I thought I liked my chances here though, I got

898
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: two stud running backs against Davante Adams. So he had

899
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: like every other stud butt Kamara and beat me and

900
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: I had Camara. Crazy. Yeah, that's what happened in in

901
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: my main league. Um, the the championship game came down

902
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: to the the guy who had Derrick Henry went into

903
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: last night's game with a fourteen point lead, then the

904
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: other guy. The other guy had Davante Adams. So it

905
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: was Derrick Henry against Davante Adams and that wasn't even close.

906
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 1: Turned into a route. That's how mine was. I even

907
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: at Aaron Jones. Yeah, it was crazy. But looking at

908
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: this week's scoring leaders, uh, Camarrow fifty nine points, my god,

909
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: six touchdowns. You would like to have seen him catch

910
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: a few more passes, but you're not gonna, you know,

911
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: you playing about the you know that kind of point total.

912
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: He could have had seven back. I don't know if

913
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: you're watching that game, but yeah, when I thought it

914
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: was their last possession, they pulled him out and he

915
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: was kind of anti on the sideline on the one

916
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: yard line and Tayson ill ran Um. Looking at the

917
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: quarterback play this week, and this was one. I did

918
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: a Saturday DFS lineup, and I've won this thing easily,

919
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: easily want it because I started talking. I started a

920
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay buccaneer stack. I had Tom Brady, I had

921
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, I had Mike Evans, and I had Leonard

922
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: four Nett. Brady let all quarterbacks. He led all quarterbacks

923
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: and points in this uh this week with forty one

924
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 1: three forty eight yards of four touchdowns and as you said,

925
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: didn't play the second half. That to me was more

926
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: about the Lions just completely mailing it in. Yeah, not

927
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: that Brady, not that Brady was bad, but they just

928
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: they didn't want to be there. That all their coaches

929
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: were on the COVID list, they weren't there, and they

930
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: just looked completely disorganized. Yeah, and we actually had kind

931
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: of a funny conversation on my podcast today about would

932
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: you rather be Denver playing a game without a quarterback,

933
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: or would you rather be the Lions without a coaching staff.

934
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't have a head coach, a coordinator

935
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: on either side of the ball. They had an analytics

936
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: guy from their front office calling the defensive plays and

937
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: then that and then then Matt Stafford goes out of

938
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: the first series and doesn't come back. Like we were

939
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: talking about it like that. The strategy should have been, like, hey, Stafford,

940
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,959
Speaker 1: pretend like you're drawnning unitis and just call every play.

941
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: I mean you might as well. And then he gets

942
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: hurt on the first series. He gets hurt in the

943
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: first series, and it just goes to show you that

944
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: strictly going by the analytics doesn't work. Because Tampa Bay

945
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: did whatever it wanted to in that game offensively. They

946
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: kept their guys. Yeah, even after playing gab came into

947
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: the game. Blaine Gabbert came into the game in the

948
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: second half. It was nine forty three yards of two

949
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: touchdown passes. He was one of the top scoring quarterbacks

950
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: in the league last week and a half your point

951
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: with the Lions. I would pick the Bengals, the Jets anyone,

952
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 1: but maybe Jacksonville over the Lions right now. Yeah, they're mess,

953
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: just a complete mess, especially if Stafford doesn't play. Andy

954
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: Dalton comes up with a three three seventy seven yards,

955
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 1: three touchdown passes, one interception, five carries for fifteen yards.

956
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 1: He had the second highest scoring week of any quarterback

957
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: last week. Yeah, and Zeke was big to all their

958
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: weapons were used. Well, um my two takeaways from that,

959
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: which kind of go hand in hand, are, boy, Philly

960
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: has corner problems. I mean like, yeah, they just didn't

961
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: cover and you know they've they'd slay and no one else,

962
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: So just don't throw it, sleigh and somebody's gonna be open.

963
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: But it made you think of I remember that Dallas

964
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: offense from last year that was right there with the

965
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 1: best in the league with Doc and you know Tyron

966
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: Smith and those guys that, hey, you run that thing

967
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: back with back next year, they'll be pretty good on

968
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: that side of the ball. Yeah, they just need to

969
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: get some defensive help. DeShawn DeShawn Watson in a loss

970
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: to the Bengals three four yards, three touchdown passes, five

971
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 1: carries for thirty eight yards still wasn't enough. He couldn't

972
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: play Superman in that game. Those were I know, since

973
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: he won and they put up big numbers and Houston's

974
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: in a bad place. No defense in that game since

975
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: the versus none whatsoever. And there's fifteen defenses that are

976
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 1: terrible right now in the league. Yeah, Brandon Allen threw

977
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: for three on the other side of that. Uh, in

978
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: two touchdown passes. Uh. Aaron Rodgers had four touchdown pass

979
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: the line last name twenty one five with four touchdown

980
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 1: passes only two thirty one yards, but did throw an interception? Uh?

981
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: Did he? Did he wrap up the uh MVP award

982
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: last night? I think so. My homes numbers haven't been

983
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 1: blown you away, and he didn't really help his fantasy

984
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: teams much this week. Homes that is, I think Rogers

985
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: has less around him, with all respect to Adams, who

986
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: I think is the best prest receiver in the league.

987
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: But I didn't realize that they flashed, you know, going

988
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 1: right into the opening series. They show you know, Roger's

989
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: numbers as that game started. I think he had a

990
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: forty to four touchdown to interception ratio and he threw one.

991
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: He did, big news, But I think he threw four

992
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: touchdowns too. I mean, yeah, you're you're forty four, forty

993
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: five to five TD ratio. That's unbelievable. We've kind of

994
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: gotten a little you know, it used to be I

995
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: remember when Dan Marino had his big year, Oh my god,

996
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: and then nobody had anything close to that for the

997
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: next fifteen years. Well, now we're seeing guys get above

998
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: forty touchdown passes on a yearly basis that it's like

999
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: you kind of become numb to that because you don't

1000
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: realize how good that is. Ben Roethlisberger was actually tied

1001
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: with Rogers for the fifth best UM week of the season.

1002
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: H h. He had three forty two yards three touchdown passes.

1003
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: UM was just magnificent in the second half of that

1004
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: game after the slow start. Kirk Cousins one and three

1005
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: touchdown passes, Lamar Jackson one three and two touchdown passes,

1006
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: thirteen carries for eight yards, and that went over the Giants. UM.

1007
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 1: It kind of looks a little bit more. Yeah, uh

1008
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: m m r biski uh to sixty two touchdown passes.

1009
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 1: Also ran for a touchdown on with ten yards rushing,

1010
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: so that's uh, you know, that's not going away. And

1011
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: then Jalen Hurts and Derek Carr Brandon Allen as the

1012
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: afore mentioned Brandon Allen all had thirty points each. Hurts

1013
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: at three forty two and a touchdown but three two interceptions,

1014
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: nine carries for sixty nine yards. He's gonna be a

1015
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: one of these guys that going into your fantasy drafts

1016
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: next year. People are gonna be going. You know, you're

1017
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Jalen Hurts and if teenth round and

1018
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a league winner. Yeah. Except I think

1019
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the fifth going. I think people are

1020
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: gonna need to use a fifth round pick, gonna go

1021
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: crazy on the guy. Uh, you know, always linemen are

1022
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: coming back. The offense is perfect, now, you know. I

1023
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: mean he's he's very appealing for fantasy. I mean, there's

1024
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: no way around that. And I think he's almost guaranteed

1025
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: to be the Eagle starter at this point, don't you think.

1026
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: I think so, Yeah, at this point, and Wentz will

1027
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: be somewhere else at the running back position. Um. Again,

1028
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: Kamara was far and away the the leader in the clubhouse.

1029
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: He had almost twice as many points as the next

1030
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: closest guy, and that was Myles Gaskin had him in

1031
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: my lineup as well on that Saturday. Again. I just

1032
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: ran away with that one. He had fourteen carries for

1033
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: eighty seven yards, five catches for eighty two yards, and

1034
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. Um. Just uh. If not for Kamara's game,

1035
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about Wow, Wow, Miles Gasking, what a great week.

1036
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: Hundred sixty total yards on nineteen touches. Yeah, and one

1037
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: thing I think we've known. I wonder if files Gascon

1038
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: and Robinson and Jacksonville are have done enough of come

1039
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: from nowhere guys to be next year's starter. And we

1040
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: think we're set at the running back position. But what

1041
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: I was gonna say is, I think we've kind of

1042
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: get the known that under Flores they've used a lot

1043
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: of running backs, but on a game by game basis,

1044
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: they pick one and feed them. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's

1045
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: been the uh, what they've done over the course of

1046
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: the year. Jeff Wilson with the big game against Arizona

1047
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: one three one catch for twenty one yards and a touchdown. Uh.

1048
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: You know, if you're playing Jeff Wilson this week, you

1049
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: played that of course at the right time. How about

1050
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: this one. We talked about this guy a couple of

1051
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: weeks ago, So marj p Ryan for uh for Cincinnati,

1052
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: and this is more a Houston Texas thing than it

1053
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: is anything else. But he had thirteen cares for yards

1054
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns. Also caught four passes for forty one

1055
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: yards on four targets in that game at a thirty

1056
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: one point game. Uh, that's as you said there was

1057
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: no defense played in that game. But but if I'm

1058
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: the Bengals, I'm looking at this one. Yeah that's not

1059
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: you know, maybe he's he's your your Joe mixing back up. Yeah,

1060
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: I was thinking that too, And um, he has some

1061
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: pedigree too. I think it was a third round pick

1062
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: out of Oklahoma that he There's some injuries there, but

1063
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: a lot of those guys, you know that you get

1064
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: him and he could be a Mike Davis, you know

1065
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: what I mean, like that had some pedigree, bounced around

1066
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: a little bit, found a home, sit behind the stud

1067
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: and have a really good career. Uh David Johnson with

1068
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: a thirty point game, hundred twenty eight yards rushing in

1069
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: that game. A J. Dillon last night? Where did that

1070
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: come from? Twenty one carries for hundred twenty four yards,

1071
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. He was not in anybody's lineup, just like

1072
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: p Ryan, Like nobody's starting those guys. And they both

1073
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: have monster games. Monster games. And I mean Jones got

1074
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: a little banged up early, which opened the door for

1075
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: Dylan and then they got a big lead and he

1076
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: just kept mashing him and doing his Derrick Henry impersonation.

1077
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest Dylan fan, but they used a

1078
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: second round pick on the guy. You can't ignore that.

1079
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: And Jamal Williams and Jones are free agents after this year.

1080
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: There's no way both are coming back. Yeah, and they

1081
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: have to look at that and go, okay that maybe

1082
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: this kid can now that was against again Tennessee and

1083
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: their defense is not. Yeah, how about this guy? Though,

1084
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: David Montgomery has kind of reinvented himself in a touchdown

1085
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: two for twenty six David Montgomery next year. I I

1086
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: drafted David Montgomery this year in the last round of

1087
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: one of my league's just because he's gonna go third

1088
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: round next year. Earlier, I think he's gonna be a

1089
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: twelve top fifteen guy because not to me, but that's

1090
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: where his numbers are now. I mean, since Bill Lasers

1091
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: taken over his offensive coordinator, Robinson and Montgomery get the

1092
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: ball a ton. I mean, he's done a nice job

1093
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: and Trabisky is numbers are good. I wonder like that.

1094
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: There's a couple of teams. I don't think the Jets

1095
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: are in this mold, but a couple of teams that

1096
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: have one a few games that I wonder if the

1097
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: owners just like we'll run it back with GM coach

1098
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: quarterback in Chicago, or you know a couple of these

1099
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 1: teams that we thought for sure we're Billy, that we're

1100
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: definitely gonna be on the ounds. I mean the Bears

1101
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: might make the playoffs. Yeah, I mean it's unbelievable. Um. Yeah,

1102
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: looking over at the wide receiver slash tight end spot. Um,

1103
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: there were some monster games here as well. Davante Adams.

1104
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: We talked about Levin catches hundred forty two yards, three touchdowns.

1105
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 1: That's a that's a league winner. Mike Evans ten catches,

1106
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: one yards, two touchdowns, again league winner. But Jamison Crowder

1107
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: seven two in a touchdown, also had a carrier for

1108
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: fourteen yards and through a forty three yard touchdown. Yeah,

1109
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: I mean he seems to do well with Donald. He's

1110
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: he's he's a typical slot machine. He has a I

1111
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: mean that's a hard thing to count on with him, obviously,

1112
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: but there's probably a lot of people had him in

1113
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: their lineup it last week or this week and are

1114
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: very very started him. Your your wide receiver three hoping

1115
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: for ten points and he gets your thirty one. Yeah,

1116
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: because he's got he's got a high floor. Yeah, Michael

1117
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: Gallup speaking of guys who probably weren't in the lineup,

1118
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: six for one one and two touchdowns. Nelson Aghilor. We've

1119
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: talked about him constantly, five for one fifty five and

1120
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Um Brandon Cooks had seven for one one

1121
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: in a touchdown. Uh Juju with nine six in the

1122
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,919
Speaker 1: score was right there with the top score. Ceedee Lamb

1123
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: only three catches but for sixty five yards and a touchdown,

1124
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: and also had a nineteen yard rushing touchdown. Yeah, I'm

1125
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: excited about him next year for sure. Yeah. I mean

1126
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: there's some there's some big games out there from the

1127
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: from the receiver position. And how about this guy Jimmy

1128
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: ram catches for yards and two touchdowns. Who was counting

1129
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: on that? That's that's some of these old tight ends.

1130
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: They just fade away slow and last just catch touchdowns

1131
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: till they're thirty five thirty six. He's always had that skill,

1132
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, boxes people out. He's that rebounder at the

1133
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: you and throw it up high to him and he

1134
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: brings it down. I mean, he can't run, but it

1135
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Speaking. A guy who can run is a guy.

1136
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,439
Speaker 1: Another guy that we've talked about a lot recently. Herb

1137
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: Smith Jr. Night targets yesterday six for fifty three and

1138
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. He's somebody that might be my twelveth round

1139
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: pick next year, you know, the ninth tight end off

1140
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: the board type guy and ready to really take a

1141
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: step up next year. Yeah, that's one to keep an

1142
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,439
Speaker 1: eye on for sure. But hey, there's still still another

1143
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: week of football FFT. If you're doing the DFS, don't

1144
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: forget about that, and you can also do some things

1145
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: with that. But we'll continue to talk fantasy football here

1146
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: throughout the week. We're gonna take a break now. He

1147
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to the

1148
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. Your tunes about Drive

1149
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 1: on Home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

1150
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and Matt, it's we're getting closer now to

1151
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: awards time. We're going into week seventeen, and of course

1152
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with the guys sitting not sitting

1153
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. Um, we talked a little

1154
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: bit before about Aaron Rodgers perhaps wrapping up the NFL

1155
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: Defensive or NFL MVP Award. Did t J. Watt wrap

1156
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: up the NFL Defensive Player of the Year award on Sunday.

1157
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: I tried to be as unbiased with these things as

1158
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 1: I possibly can, but I think that answer is yes.

1159
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Aaron Donald is the best defensive

1160
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: player on the planet and one of the best I've

1161
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: ever seen, you know, since Lawrence Taylor. I mean, I

1162
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: think he's and when he goes into Hall of Fame,

1163
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: he'll be a top team, top tier Hall of Famer

1164
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: on the Joe Green, Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White scale. But

1165
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: I think TJ is more deserving this year. I'm looking

1166
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: here at the numbers. I got to what leads the

1167
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: NFL and sacks with fifteen that's one and a half

1168
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: more than Aaron Donald has um what and the next

1169
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: closest guy I might add in the a f C

1170
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 1: is Myles Garrett with twelve and then step onto it

1171
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: with ten. Yeah to to It's actually the third Steelers

1172
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: defensive lineman since too when sacks became an official statistic

1173
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: to reach double digits in sacks. The other two are

1174
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: cam cam Heyward and Keith Willis, and they don't count

1175
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: the Porters and Guilden's defensive lineman you're talking about, Yeah,

1176
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: those are those are the outside linebackers. Yeah. Um. More impressively,

1177
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: when you look at tackles for losses, what has twenty six?

1178
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: The next closest guy is a Sawn Reddick with nineteen

1179
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: and his all have come lately too. I mean he's

1180
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: he's not in the equation. Yea Reddicks reddicks up that

1181
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: he's got twelve and a half sacks and nineteen tackles

1182
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: for a loss, but he's kind of yeah, he's on

1183
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: his contract. Push here. Um, that's the one that I

1184
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: would look at. Yeah, yeah, um, you know, I think Garret.

1185
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: I look at that Garrett. Yeah, Garrett hasn't been the

1186
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: same since he came back from having COVID. You know. Now,

1187
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: maybe he goes out and gets three or four sacks

1188
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: in this last game against US. I was just thinking that, like,

1189
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: how crappy would that be if Watts sitting there watching

1190
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 1: from the press box and it's Owl's back up, back up,

1191
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: and Garrett gets four sacks and wins Defensive Player of

1192
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 1: the Year like that STIGs You know, that shouldn't that

1193
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: shouldn't even be a factor Because I look at watts

1194
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 1: numbers across the board fifty three tackles. Garrett has forty four.

1195
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: Now it's in two fewer games, but all right, nine tackles,

1196
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: and he's got three more sacks. He's got seven passes defense,

1197
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: he's got an interception to force fumbles. He leads the

1198
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: league in quarterback hits. You're talking about what Garrett, right,

1199
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm talking about what? Yeah? I mean, he's just been

1200
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: the better player and and and a dominant player all

1201
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 1: season long. I think he's had the best year. The

1202
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: only other curve ball could a big time interception guy

1203
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: a Xavian Howard, you know, somebody like that. I just

1204
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 1: don't see that though, because I don't think right. And

1205
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: and the the thing about that is, you know, Stefan

1206
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: Gilmore got a lot of a lot of publicity last

1207
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 1: year because he was doing it for the Patriots, and

1208
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: it's the Patriots. Is anybody really banking on Weavian Howard?

1209
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: He's just been I don't even hear that. He's been

1210
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: good this year and he's got nineteam pass defenses, he

1211
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 1: got nine interceptions, and his his season has probably been

1212
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 1: every bit as good as what Gilmore did last year.

1213
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: But Gilmore won that more that was more of a

1214
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: team award to me than it was just Stefan Gilmore. Right, Like,

1215
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,799
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, the Patriots have a really good defense.

1216
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 1: Somebody on that defense has to be the Defensive Player

1217
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 1: of the Year. Gilmore is the best guy. Will give

1218
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: it to him. Yeah, he covers number ones and he

1219
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: had a great year, obviously, But a couple of notes

1220
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: on that to your point that Patriots defense got so

1221
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 1: much publicity, I mean, especially like the first ten twelve games,

1222
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 1: because it was ridiculously dominant against bad competition. But you know,

1223
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: they were scoring more points than they were allowing, and

1224
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: every fantasy team wanted that defense on on your roster.

1225
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 1: And then they came back to earth a little bit,

1226
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: and we're right there with the Niners and Steelers and

1227
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: to all respect, the wat and a couple of the

1228
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: other top dudes. Last year I didn't think as defensive

1229
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: m v P years ago, it was a particularly strong one.

1230
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: So it was kind of a good year to give

1231
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: it to a Gilmore or somebody like that. And going

1232
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: back to mel Blunt, I think only like four corners

1233
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: have ever won it. I mean, that's a tough award

1234
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 1: for a corner. It's absolutely is, because you just don't

1235
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: get the opportunity to get the sacks and and things

1236
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: of that nature that you know, the numbers. Uh. I'm

1237
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: looking back here at J J Watts. Uh. Two thousand

1238
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: twelve through two thousand fifteen seasons, he won three of

1239
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: them in that stretch. His first one was in two

1240
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 1: thousand twelve. He had twenty and a half sacks and

1241
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: thirty nine tackles for a loss. Yeah. Um, he wanted

1242
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 1: again in two thousand fourteen, again twenty and a half sacks,

1243
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: twenty nine tackles for a lost, fifty one quarterback hits. Uh.

1244
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,919
Speaker 1: He wanted again in two thousand fifteen. He had seventeen

1245
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: and a half sacks, twenty nine tackles for a loss,

1246
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 1: and fifty quarterback hits. So if you start looking at

1247
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 1: TJ's numbers for this year, uh, and he's probably again

1248
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 1: not probably not going to play this last game, but

1249
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: he's got fifteen sacks, twenty three tackles for a lost

1250
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: forty one quarterback hits. Not that far off from from

1251
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: big brother JJ. You know, by the way t J

1252
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 1: drops in the coverage, something very good point. And I

1253
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: mentioned that upper tier of Hall of Fame defensive players.

1254
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: Big brothers in that one too. I mean, in terms

1255
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 1: of one of the best defensive players I've ever seen,

1256
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 1: you win three over what a four year stretch. I mean,

1257
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 1: that's remarkable. I mean, that's Aaron Donald like, and Donald

1258
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 1: has taken that mantle from big brother as just the

1259
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: truly elite player. And for t J to be in

1260
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 1: the same breath with those guys again, this is Joe Green,

1261
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor reath, in my opinion, is awesome in itself.

1262
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: And you're right, he doesn't get quite as many opportunities

1263
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: because he drops into coverage and I think he probably

1264
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if he sees quite as

1265
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: many double teams as JJ and Donald, but he sees

1266
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,560
Speaker 1: a lot, you know. I mean it's just on the interior.

1267
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 1: They get it every snap where they get and they

1268
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: get they get two U three to three h pounders. Right,

1269
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 1: it's not a back tight end, right, But he's also

1270
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 1: if he's also fifty pounds later than those guys. Yeah, right,

1271
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: And once in a while he runs with the tight

1272
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: end downfield and does things they don't do as well.

1273
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 1: They don't get any receptions either, pass breakups, you know, right,

1274
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking at that that four year stretch that JJ

1275
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 1: had from two thousand, he has sixty nine sacks in

1276
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: that four year period and he missed well, he was

1277
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 1: hurt that that two thousand thirteen season only he only

1278
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 1: had ten and a half sacks that year. That's insane.

1279
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 1: My god. Uh, he guys stretches. Any defense players ever

1280
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: had ten ten fumble recoveries. He had a hundred ninety

1281
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: quarterback hits in four year span. I don't know if

1282
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 1: passes he batted down. It's like three game it goes down.

1283
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 1: Let's get down his past defenses. He had forty one

1284
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: pass defenses. He had a hundred nineteen tackles for a loss,

1285
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 1: So he averaged almost thirty tackles for a loss per

1286
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: year to a game. I mean, that's insane. I know

1287
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 1: we make fun of profitball focus sometimes, but I remember

1288
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: when he was doing that, they wrote an article saying J. J.

1289
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 1: Watts kind of broke our scale. We didn't think this

1290
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 1: was possible, and he's grating better than we can even

1291
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 1: show on paper. You know, like, this is impossible, it's amazing. Well,

1292
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: I think t J is breaking into that. He's in

1293
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 1: the same level. He's at that level. Here. Here's his

1294
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: numbers over the last three years. We'll take away his

1295
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 1: his rookie year, so he's played in forty seven games.

1296
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: He's he's appeared in every game the Steelers have played

1297
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 1: since his rookie year. Uh, he's got three interceptions. He's

1298
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: got eight teen pass defenses. He's got sixteen forced fumbles.

1299
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: Big brother only had ten. Like I mentioned J J.

1300
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 1: Swatton things. TJ has become the fumble creator, you know,

1301
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 1: like that he's a ball. He's only gotten two this year,

1302
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: but they've come lately. Um, you know, he's starting to

1303
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 1: pick up his game. There, he's got four fumble recoveries.

1304
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: He's got forty two and a half sacks in a

1305
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: three game, three year span. He's got nine quarterback hits

1306
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: in that three year span. Again, that's that's averaging. That's

1307
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: that's averaging thirty quarterback hits a year. And he's got

1308
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 1: forty nine tackles for a loss. Wow. I mean, he's

1309
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 1: This is another Pro Football Focus number because I think

1310
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 1: they're the only ones that measure pressures. But I think

1311
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:50,560
Speaker 1: I sent it to you. The Steelers have three or

1312
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: even four of the top eight in the league, and

1313
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 1: pressures and I'm pretty sure he's by far number one.

1314
01:13:57,680 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly sure how they define it, but

1315
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 1: that's one of the you have to you have to

1316
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: be within like six ft of the quarterback when he

1317
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,759
Speaker 1: throws to football or something like that. Like Alex. Alex

1318
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: Highsmith yesterday only got credit for two quarterback hits, but

1319
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 1: he had pressure. He didn't get a quarterback hit on

1320
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 1: the interest they forced interception that Hilton had where he

1321
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,759
Speaker 1: forced Philip Rivers to get rid of the ball before

1322
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: he wanted to. But his pressure on that one, Rivers

1323
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: felt him coming and let the ball go because he

1324
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: knew that he knew the pressure was coming from his

1325
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 1: front side. And that's that's what a quarterback pressure is.

1326
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: Um a lot more than those numbers indicate, right, And

1327
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: so I just think, to me, I know it's you know,

1328
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna go down to a vote, and I know

1329
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: a lot of people you know who vote for these things,

1330
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: they've already made up their mind. They're going with Aaron

1331
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 1: Donald on this. But I think when you really look

1332
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 1: at the numbers and who's had the better year, it's

1333
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 1: t J. Watt. I agree. Here's a number no one

1334
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 1: will ever know but I'll take the Pepsi challenge against

1335
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 1: any defensive player in the league that t J. Watt

1336
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 1: leads the league in should have called holding on plays.

1337
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's unbelievable. The one that that happened yesterday,

1338
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 1: and it was a big completion down the field. I

1339
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 1: believe um around the neck, just choking him the around

1340
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 1: the neck, right in front of the quarterback, right in

1341
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 1: front of the back judge. And immediately when it happened,

1342
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: like that should have been a hold. And then they

1343
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 1: showed the replay and and Tony Romo was like, this

1344
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: should have been a hold on Like obviously I saw

1345
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,640
Speaker 1: in real time he had him around the neck and

1346
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 1: he you know, what's coming around the back side, and

1347
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 1: he's obviously holding the you know, he's obviously being obstructed

1348
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 1: from getting to the quarterback by the hold. He has

1349
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: to lead the league and that's that. I mean, I

1350
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: can't believe there's anybody close. And I know what happens

1351
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 1: to every team. It's not just the Steelers that holding

1352
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 1: doesn't get holdings on a legal anymore. But wow, I

1353
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: mean it's worse than Harrison and his prime. I can't

1354
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: remember anybody that gets held as often as he does

1355
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: that doesn't get called. It's gotta it's gonna be so

1356
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:14,919
Speaker 1: frustrating as well. Man. The other thing, God, you're expending

1357
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 1: all that energy to get to the quarterback and they're

1358
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:19,560
Speaker 1: and they're not going to call holding penalty like that

1359
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 1: where you've the guy's got guy's got you in a chokehold. Yeah,

1360
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 1: it's gonna be frustrating. M The other thing is starting

1361
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 1: to bug me along that those lines, like it's obvious

1362
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 1: now everyone's playing the same rules. Holding is not illegal.

1363
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 1: But as the season's gone on, and this is just

1364
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 1: something I'm kind of stirring in the back of my creatium.

1365
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:40,560
Speaker 1: Offensive tackles are jumping early all the oh yeah, and

1366
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 1: it's a huge advantage. Somebody asked me about the lack

1367
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: of holding penalties um this year, and I said, well, look,

1368
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 1: it's you know, we've we've documented this is it hasn't changed.

1369
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:54,560
Speaker 1: They're still at one point eight per game. It was

1370
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 1: it was two point seven nine last year. They're calling

1371
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 1: a full holding penalty list. But it's those kind the

1372
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: things that they're not calling. And I think you know, somebody,

1373
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 1: so what's the reason for this. It's a contract here

1374
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 1: with the TV with the television state networks. They don't

1375
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 1: want a bunch of flags putting offenses in bad spots. Yes,

1376
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 1: And I don't know that, I don't really want. You'd

1377
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: never find a memo that probably says that maybe there's

1378
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 1: an email out there, Hey guys, let some of this

1379
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 1: stuff go. There was a there was a play yesterday

1380
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: where Rivers the clock went to zero, it was well

1381
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 1: passed zero, and they snapped the football. They were down

1382
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 1: in the red zone and I think it was on

1383
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: their their their field goal drive to open the second half.

1384
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 1: The clocks obviously at zero. What gets up and starts

1385
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 1: pointing at the clock and they snapped the football. Oh yeah,

1386
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 1: there's no call. There's no call. The things I want

1387
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 1: to mention about that too, is okay, it is only

1388
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 1: one holding call per game, which is a lot. But

1389
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 1: now every offensive lineman knows it, and they know it more,

1390
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, when you thought you might get called,

1391
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 1: you're not gonna hold as watch as you do now.

1392
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 1: You know, you heard a couple of weeks ago when

1393
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 1: when the Castro got called for one and the and

1394
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: the referee left is Mike on and he's talking to

1395
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: the Castro between places as well. You know, I don't

1396
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 1: want to call holding, but I don't usually call holding penalties.

1397
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 1: If you don't usually call holding penalties, you shouldn't be

1398
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 1: in that position then because that's your main job. Your

1399
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 1: main job is that back job? Is it called the

1400
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 1: holding penalties? Absolutely right? I mean I don't like to

1401
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: call holds, right, I mean, what are you doing out here?

1402
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: And I think you're right. I mean there's no memo.

1403
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 1: H Roger Goodell didn't call or text all these guys directly.

1404
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,959
Speaker 1: But it's like the mob. I mean, I think there's buffers.

1405
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 1: You know that he tells the console yetti, who tells

1406
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 1: the capo, who tells the soldier. This is how business

1407
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 1: is done in the in the family. Don't throw a

1408
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 1: lot of flags. And if people are jumping off sides

1409
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 1: on offense or false starting, that's okay. And you're seeing

1410
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 1: even defensive ends jump more too, because the guy that

1411
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 1: they're looking at jumps and there's a lot of priests

1412
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 1: that stuff going on to let alone a million holes.

1413
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 1: Just yeah, but they are calling and again this leads

1414
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 1: to the offensive side of things, a lot more pass

1415
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 1: interference penalties. What does that lead to? More points? Points, points, points, points, points.

1416
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: It's all about the points, and they were worried. Obviously

1417
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 1: they don't want to lose viewers during the whole COVID

1418
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 1: mess and people aren't stands. I mean, I get it,

1419
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 1: but you mentioned JJ's it Cheapen's it cheapens the game.

1420
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: It does and it really hurts the stealers. But you

1421
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 1: mentioned jj sack numbers and production. I guarantee you that

1422
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 1: if TJS would be better under JJ's rules, which wasn't

1423
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: he have twenty plus right now? Yes, exactly, Yeah, there's

1424
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 1: not a doubt in my mind he would have twenty

1425
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 1: plus sacks more. Yeah, I mean I just went through

1426
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 1: the numbers for the NFL. Uh that the guys who

1427
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 1: have double digit sacks, and there are six. There's seven guys.

1428
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 1: I mean I haven't looked back at a previous years,

1429
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 1: but seven guys. There's only three guys in the a

1430
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 1: f C who have double digit sacks and looking at

1431
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:11,919
Speaker 1: this um, the only guys who uh you know, Emmanuel

1432
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 1: Ogba has nine and nobody else is close to coming

1433
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: Olivia Vernion. Olivia Vernon has eight in the a f C.

1434
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, these guys are going to get

1435
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: to double digit sacks. That affects the defensive guys too.

1436
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys have things written into their

1437
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,560
Speaker 1: contracts like if you get a certain number, you know

1438
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 1: you you get you know, if I'm if I'm a

1439
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 1: defensive player, I'm going, what the hell is going on here? Yeah?

1440
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 1: It really is unfair against them. And I mean even

1441
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 1: let alone was in your contract, but what about your

1442
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 1: next contract? You know, like the Bucks say, hey, we

1443
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,680
Speaker 1: just gave seventeen million to Shaq Barrett because he had

1444
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 1: twenty sacks and you only had nine, so we'll give

1445
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: you half that. Like, hey, I was just as good

1446
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 1: a year. I got held four hundred times, you know,

1447
01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 1: the whole season holding me Um. Yeah. I just think

1448
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 1: it's you know, I hope it goes back to a

1449
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 1: little bit more normalcy next year. I don't know if

1450
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 1: it will. I don't know. And I don't think either

1451
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 1: one of us wants to see every holding penalty called,

1452
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 1: but the obvious ones that are clearly clearly keeping the

1453
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 1: guy from getting to the quarterback should be called. Agree,

1454
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,480
Speaker 1: And I often look at it from a team building standpoint,

1455
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 1: from Kevin Colbert standpoint, like if this is gonna be

1456
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:29,640
Speaker 1: the norm in holding is no longer illegal. Well, I

1457
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 1: can't spend a ton of money on what am I

1458
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 1: gonna spend? Am I gonna spend twenty million dollars on? Right?

1459
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:39,679
Speaker 1: Exactly like if he's if he is a massive advantage

1460
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 1: and can't use it, well, I'm gonna use that money

1461
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: on a wide out right, um I will I will

1462
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 1: say this though Dupri had Dupri still tied for fifth,

1463
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 1: that's in the a f C with eight sacks. And

1464
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 1: yet somehow we didn't talk about this at all. Somehow

1465
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: Matthew Judo made the Pro Bowl. Oh, I know, that's terrible, terrible,

1466
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 1: which is ridicus, just ridiculous when they've both got franchise.

1467
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 1: I thought they were on the same tier, you know,

1468
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: both good players. Strong. Robin's not Batman's. Bud's way better

1469
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 1: than him. Now, yeah, it's not. I don't even know

1470
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 1: if it's close. To be honest with you, I think

1471
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: he's that much better. But anyways, that's for me, neither

1472
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 1: here nor there. But we're gonna take another break. He

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01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to the

1474
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 1: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. Your tunes about Drive

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01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:32,719
Speaker 1: on Home of the Black and Goals Steelers Nation Radio.

1476
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lally here with Matt Williamson. You're

1477
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 1: listening to the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And Matt said,

1478
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 1: so more takeaways from Sunday's game. UM. I don't know

1479
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 1: if people appreciate, truly appreciate, um, how rare it is

1480
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 1: to see comebacks like what we saw yesterday. Uh, that

1481
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 1: was the first time under Mike Tomlin that the Steelers

1482
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 1: had come back from a seven team point second half deficit.

1483
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 1: Hadn't had I mean, it's not like Tomlin has only

1484
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 1: been here a couple of years. That's that's quite the

1485
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 1: That was Ben Roethlisberger's thirty fifth career fourth quarter comeback.

1486
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 1: That marks that puts him in fourth place on the

1487
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 1: all time list. That moves him out of a tie

1488
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 1: with one Johnny Unitis. Maybe people have heard of him. Um,

1489
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,639
Speaker 1: he's got thirty five of these things. The guys ahead

1490
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 1: of him on the list, Roethlisberger is now in fourth

1491
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 1: place by himself, Peyton Manning with forty three, Tom Brady

1492
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 1: with thirty nine, Drew Brees with thirty six, and then

1493
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 1: you ever Rosburger with thirty five. Of those right, And

1494
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 1: so I I tweeted that out last night and somebody said, well,

1495
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: it just means he was behind a lot, you know, No,

1496
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't know it like I mean, those guys aren't

1497
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 1: a bad teams. I said, look at the guys who

1498
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 1: are ahead of him, and oh, by the way, you

1499
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 1: know you have to you have to still manufacture the

1500
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 1: comeback because you look at the guys who are you know,

1501
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 1: tell me of these guys who's not any good? Number

1502
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 1: one I mentioned Manning, Brady, Breeze, Roethlisberger United. Number six

1503
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 1: is Dan Marino with thirty three. Number seven is John

1504
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: Elway with thirty one. Number and tied with him with

1505
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 1: thirty one is Matthew Stafford. Now you can say, okay,

1506
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford isn't belonging on that list, but okay, Ryan

1507
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: his night and there's a guy who's been behind a lot.

1508
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 1: You know, Matt Ryan is ninth with thirty and then

1509
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: tied for tenth. You have Philip Verse with twenty nine,

1510
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: Frand Tarkend with nine. If any Testaverty with twenty nine.

1511
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 1: If you know, if you build a top ten quarterback

1512
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 1: ever list, the top six you mentioned l Way and

1513
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 1: better or pretty much all on there, right, you know

1514
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like the elite of the elite absolutely,

1515
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:26,640
Speaker 1: and they yes, they've done it a long time. But man, uh,

1516
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 1: you know you trust those guys with the ball in

1517
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 1: their hand late in football games. And a lot of

1518
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: it is I'm a believer in clutch. Don't get me wrong.

1519
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm not as food by much of a believer. And

1520
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna put he has it on my scouting report,

1521
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, and leave it that. But some of it,

1522
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 1: especially lately, is teams start to figure out defenses. This

1523
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 1: is really true in the NFL now that once you've

1524
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: figured out all the defenses, checks and you know, if

1525
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 1: we give them this motion, they always checked the cover too.

1526
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 1: You know there's a mental side of it too. That's

1527
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 1: not just boy. I'm just you know, gonna will my

1528
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,679
Speaker 1: team to victory or whatever cliche you want is I've

1529
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 1: figured you out. Your Your work week of practice wasn't

1530
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 1: enough to make any more adjustments. We know where you are.

1531
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 1: You have to out execute us, and I'm gonna throw

1532
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: cover two beaters at your time and time again, you know.

1533
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 1: And there's something he said for that, and I thought,

1534
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 1: that's what you know, on the defensive side of things,

1535
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 1: what the Steelers did well at the end of that

1536
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 1: game to close out Philip Rivers. Yes, he you know,

1537
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 1: he didn't have any time outs left and so he

1538
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: had to use the sidelines a little bit, but they

1539
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:40,560
Speaker 1: got into position and the defense kept him out of

1540
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 1: the end zone. And you know that's not easy. Again,

1541
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy on this list. He's got

1542
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 1: twenty nine. He's he's tied for tenth on this list,

1543
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: so you know he he has done this in the

1544
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 1: on his own right as well. Um, looking at Roethlisberger,

1545
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 1: he leads a league this year and fourth quarter comebacks

1546
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 1: with four. Interesting. Um, yeah, that's that's a that's a

1547
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: league high. Uh. He's got forty six game winning drives

1548
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 1: now in his career, including the four this year. And

1549
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 1: those are those are defined a little bit differently. If

1550
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 1: you put your team ahead in the second half. Um,

1551
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 1: he gi credit for a game league, yeah, and then

1552
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: you stay ahead. Uh. He's got forty or six of

1553
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 1: those with yeah, which ranks high on the all time

1554
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:29,640
Speaker 1: list as well. But he now leads the league and

1555
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 1: completions and attempts, and I know when we went into

1556
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 1: this season, we thought, well, there's no you don't want

1557
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger leading the league in completions, in attempts. You don't

1558
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:41,560
Speaker 1: want him throwing six d seventy five passes that he

1559
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 1: threw in two thousand eighteen. He's pretty close. He's got

1560
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 1: six hundred eight and he's probably so he's probably not

1561
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 1: going to get there. And he you know, he may

1562
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: not end up leading the league this year, but he's

1563
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 1: also got thirty three touchdown passes he set you know,

1564
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 1: he set the team record for touchdown passes in two

1565
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen with thirty four. If he played in this

1566
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 1: game against the Browns, he would have thirty five, thirty six,

1567
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, because he would throw some in

1568
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,679
Speaker 1: this game against the Browns as well, because they can't

1569
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 1: stop anybody. Um, it goes back to what we were

1570
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:19,600
Speaker 1: talking about last week. I don't think he's anywhere near done. No,

1571
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 1: and I think he I think he showed that yesterday.

1572
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 1: They like the old Cowboys still has some the old

1573
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:27,639
Speaker 1: gun slingers still have some bullets in the gun. Yeah, agree,

1574
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 1: and I won't lie. I mean, even at halftime, it

1575
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 1: was starting across my mind that okay, you know, maybe

1576
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 1: this this great career is on the eighteenth hole, you know,

1577
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: and as opposed to this is just a bad run.

1578
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's crossed all of our minds,

1579
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 1: um And maybe that second half yesterday was a fluke,

1580
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 1: and he finishes out the year horrible and all next

1581
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: year is terrible, and we all say, yeah, he probably

1582
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 1: hung it up. You should have hung it up, you know,

1583
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 1: after two thousand twenty. But I tend to lean towards no.

1584
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 1: I mean I I just think that he's got a

1585
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 1: lot of natural ability. This team leans on him so much.

1586
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 1: To your point earlier, I think they have to do

1587
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 1: a better job this offseason of taking a little bit

1588
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 1: off his plate. And we wouldn't have said, boy, the

1589
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 1: Steelers were going to be the division winner and the

1590
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 1: second or third seed in the playoffs if he leads

1591
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 1: the league in attempts again. But it just shows how

1592
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 1: good he still is that they got those things with

1593
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:32,679
Speaker 1: him doing that, you know, without a running game. Yeah.

1594
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 1: The Sunday's game was the first time since UH Week

1595
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 1: ten that he had been over eight yards per per average.

1596
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 1: Air yards per attempt the last the last week eleven

1597
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 1: against Jacksonville was five point seven yards per tempt by eight. Yeah. Uh.

1598
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 1: Week twelve it was four point seven three, five point

1599
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 1: six six, three point seven oh against the Bills, three

1600
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 1: point eight two against Cincinnati, and then it jumped up

1601
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 1: to eight point two uh this week against the Bills.

1602
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 1: If you look at the early run in early in

1603
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 1: the season, week one, it was nine point oh three

1604
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:18,719
Speaker 1: against the Giant, seven point four six against the against Denver,

1605
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 1: seven point six nine, eight point seven nine, eight point

1606
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 1: to seven. Uh. The game against the Titans was really

1607
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 1: where it went down to three point five three, but

1608
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 1: then it jumped back up in the in the first

1609
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 1: Baltimore game, the six point nine four, then eight point

1610
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 1: seven one against Dallas, eight point nine eight against Cincinnati

1611
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 1: the first time around. If they could keep him around

1612
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 1: that eight number, I think that this offense will be

1613
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 1: okay because I also think that opens things up to

1614
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 1: run the football a little bit as well. Without question,

1615
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 1: And the number that just jumped off the page to

1616
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 1: me was three point seven against the Bills. You know,

1617
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying if they if they go

1618
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 1: to Buffalo in the second round, that they're gonna win,

1619
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:01,559
Speaker 1: but I promise you that number won't be three point

1620
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 1: seven If these teams can't be and therefore they have

1621
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 1: a better chance to win. Yeah, I agree, and I

1622
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,519
Speaker 1: think that you know, I think they see that, um,

1623
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 1: you know and say okay, we gotta you know, that's

1624
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 1: something you show him and say, look, what do you

1625
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,320
Speaker 1: see about these last few games that jump out to you.

1626
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 1: Look at these area yards. You're not going down the field. Um,

1627
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 1: when you go down the field, we have success. When

1628
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:28,560
Speaker 1: you don't, you know, the offense bogs down like it

1629
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 1: did in this game. So I think that's very critical

1630
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 1: for them to do that. And you know, something that

1631
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 1: we talked about last week finally here, Um, you know,

1632
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 1: we we when we talked about this last week, it said, well,

1633
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 1: you know that Colts team probably the only defense, the

1634
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 1: second best defense going into the A f C playoffs.

1635
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 1: First of all, they may not be in the a

1636
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 1: f C playoffs because if if things end, you know,

1637
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 1: if it ended right now, they would not be. But secondly,

1638
01:31:56,200 --> 01:32:00,680
Speaker 1: if that's the second best defense Steelers and not in

1639
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 1: that shape, yeah, I mean you know that that's that's

1640
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 1: not a bad thing. Buckner and Leonard didn't show up

1641
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 1: as a phenomenal player, and they figured it out and

1642
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,680
Speaker 1: had the guys open all day, you know, And when

1643
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 1: you opened a segment you said, I'm not sure people

1644
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 1: will understand how rare it or or appreciate, and then

1645
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 1: you did all his Roethlisberger facts. I had a hunt.

1646
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna say how open Deonte Johnson has been all year.

1647
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. I mean some of it's been on bend,

1648
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 1: some of it's been on injuries, some of it's been

1649
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 1: on his drops. That guy is open all the time.

1650
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 1: And that is so rare in this league. Yeah, it

1651
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 1: really is. And and it doesn't seem to matter. Um,

1652
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 1: he gets off press coverage. Uh, he he gets deep,

1653
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 1: he can he can beat double teams. Um. Yeah, he's

1654
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 1: he's a special player. And that's why you don't give

1655
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:54,599
Speaker 1: up on that guy. I know he had a stretch

1656
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 1: here where he was struggling, you know, with the with

1657
01:32:57,080 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 1: the drops. But he's been good to last two games. Uh,

1658
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:03,759
Speaker 1: you know, you haven't seen that problem. And yeah, he's

1659
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 1: a guy that opposing teams have to account for. Same

1660
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 1: with Chase Claypool. I know he dropped a touchdown yesterday,

1661
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 1: but he makes them a better offense when they when

1662
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,560
Speaker 1: they incorporate him. And you saw them come out in

1663
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 1: the second half of that game after not targeting him

1664
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 1: the entire first half. And I'm not gonna say they

1665
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 1: forced the ball to Claypool, but they definitely wanted to

1666
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:28,639
Speaker 1: incorporate him in the downfield game. Yeah, And I thought

1667
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 1: that was one of the most encouraging things big picture

1668
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 1: for the playoffs. That by no means is he you know,

1669
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 1: flash in the pan or this rookie wall is going

1670
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 1: to destroy him. And I liked your point about make

1671
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:43,600
Speaker 1: him a wide receiver one in week seventeen and just

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Speaker 1: four feet in the ball, see what happens. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: what's the worst that could happen? He did? You know,

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Speaker 1: he comes, he catches a touchdown, or we haven't. You

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Speaker 1: haven't seen him even when the ball has been overthrown

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Speaker 1: to him in those situations, they haven't turned into turnovers.

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Speaker 1: At least gets a hand on the football or breaks

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Speaker 1: it up, or you know, draws a past interference penalty.

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Speaker 1: There's all kinds of things that happened there. A lot

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Speaker 1: of good stuff happens when you throw the football down

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Speaker 1: the field to him. Um, the worst it seems to

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Speaker 1: happen is it it falls incomplete right and you know,

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Speaker 1: even without a lot of people around him, I gotta

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Speaker 1: think Rudolph's group of receivers will be pretty good for

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Speaker 1: him in week seventeen. You know, I think he'll get

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Speaker 1: more help than he did last year from his pass catchers.

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Speaker 1: And I think, you know, he's got another year under

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Speaker 1: his belt, as do all those receivers, which isn't a

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Speaker 1: bad thing. And you know, again he's I just think

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Speaker 1: he'll play better than what he has, uh than what

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Speaker 1: he did last year. We'll see, but certainly gonna be

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Speaker 1: interesting here. I also add this, the Steelers now second

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Speaker 1: in the NFL and points allowed Miami number one and

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Speaker 1: eighteen point eight. We'll see if that holds up and

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Speaker 1: if they can get back up into that top spot.

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Speaker 1: I have my feeling that that's not gonna happen, but

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Speaker 1: they'll take they'll take the twelve wins and ways. But

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Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for our show today, So for

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Speaker 1: my partner Matt Williamson, for Jacobeck in site keeping us

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Speaker 1: on the air. We'll be back again tomorrow. We got

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Speaker 1: a show tomorrow and Wednesday, and then of course off

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Speaker 1: New Year's Eve and New Year's Day as well. But uh,

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Speaker 1: we'll keep bringing a game or coverage all throughout the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally. We thank you for listening to this

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Speaker 1: edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio