WEBVTT - L.A.B. Golf – Part 8: “Glover Wins Again” - The Fire Pit w/ Matt Ginella 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:07.640 Any sense of what your success has done to Lab. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:12.760 Yeah, I had to give Will McKenzie one of my 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:15.800 backups because he couldn't get one until like the end 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:19.640 of September, and that's a pro. And then a friend 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:22.959 of mine, a friend of a friend, ordered one and 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:26.600 is like eight months back ordered. So yeah, I think 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:27.360 they're pretty busy. 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:34.800 Put another log on the fire. 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:40.160 Nobody he is getting time. 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:47.040 Welcome to the fire pit with Matt Chanella. 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.960 So Lucas Glover wins the Windham Championship and for anyone 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:55.560 paying attention, especially his inner circle of friends, it wasn't 0:00:55.680 --> 0:01:00.720 that surprising. Mac Parnhart, Glover's longtime friend and manager, literally 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:01.520 predicted it. 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:06.119 And Mac just said, man, this is this is incredible, 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:10.199 and you know this is amazing. And but he looked 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:13.240 over at me and he goes, He's going to win Greensburro. 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:16.479 That's the one. He's that's the one he's going. 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:17.680 To win again. 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.840 After three sessions with Jason Kuhn, the former Navy seal, 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:23.679 and after putting a LAB putter in play in Memorial 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:27.520 in June, Glover was on the definition of a heater 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:31.600 in his twenty four rounds. After Memorial and at Mirfield. 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:35.399 He had nineteen rounds in the sixties, which included a 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:39.240 sixty two, sixty three and two sixty fours. He had 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.760 only one round over par a seventy two in the 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.319 second round of the Canadian Open. And now, after a 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:48.240 decade of dealing with yips in what climaxed at setting 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:52.160 the putter behind the ball and essentially push putting, Glover 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.400 had his fifth win on the PGA Tour from a 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:58.400 late Sunday night in Greensboro. As he got into his car, 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.480 took the wheel and allowed him self a massive exhale. 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:05.200 It was immediately onto Memphis, where he had just qualified 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:07.240 for the first FedEx Cup playoff event. 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:11.720 Now your mental switch that you've made with Jason, and 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.880 then this change with the weapon you're using on the green, 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.920 right like that's a tool. Right now, you've got a 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:21.720 new tool, a new mind, but you've got the same 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:25.840 old ball striking, and you've got that resolve and the 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:30.200 grit and grind. Of course you go back. Of course, 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.680 you validated the following week. 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:35.000 I mean, of course, you break through that finish line 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.240 as Mac described of a marathon runner in a collapse, 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:40.840 and then you get back up and run another race 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:41.680 and win it. 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.959 Yeah, yeah, that was Yeah. Like I said, you just 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:49.440 kind of keep riding, rode the wave. There was just 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:53.919 an extreme, extreme, extreme amount of confidence when I got 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.240 to Memphis for all of the reasons you just said, 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:58.680 And you've hit the nail exactly on the head by 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:02.000 the ways you just said it. And I did say, 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:05.200 you know, after Greensboro and in between that that you 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.360 used a perfect word there, a weapon, And then it 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.960 had been such a crutch for so long, and now 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:15.200 I'm showing up with confidence on the greens and something 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:19.640 I believe in and at a place again I like that. 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:25.639 I've finished third there last year, I believe. And Crystal, 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.960 in my wife, she was saying, you know, even leading up, 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:29.720 she goes, you just need to get to Memphis because 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:34.520 that's your course. And turned out Greensboro was and that's 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.440 how I got to Memphis. But you know, she she 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.040 called that one. If you just get there, you're gonna 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:40.600 do good. You know, you're gonna do well. I think 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.040 you can win there, man. You know, I agree with 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:47.160 you just got to get there type situation. But then 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.160 when we did get there, I was, you know, riding 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:53.640 the high but also still thinking, man, I'm still feeling 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:57.360 pretty fresh and still you know, love this place and 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:01.520 playing nice and just played excellent golf the last six 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:06.160 seven weeks. And you know, now the second season kind 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:11.000 of starts, you know, the playoffs, and now now we 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.560 can tick off some goals for next year, you know, 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:16.320 maybe get in some majors, maybe get in the big events, 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:19.640 signature events, And wouldn't pick a better time to be 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.240 full of confidence and right now, and so let's do 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.200 what we did last week and stick to what we've 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:27.880 been doing, and you know, go have fun Putton and 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:28.680 let's do it again. 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.159 Which makes you really dangerous. 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:38.240 Yeah, yep, every golfer, every athlete, you know, you confident 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:40.960 and confident in what you're doing and how you're doing it, 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:46.360 and you know feel fresh, pretty rested somehow. Yeah, very 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:50.560 dangerous any anybody in that situation, in this situation. 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:54.240 Glover opened with a sixty six, followed by a sixty four. 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.719 He shot another sixty six on Saturday and started the 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:01.560 final round with the lead. Some of the notable contenders 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:06.520 were Tommy Fleetwood two back, Rory McElroy three back, and 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:10.719 Patrick Cantley, who was five back. In the sweltering heat 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:14.159 of a Southern summer. Rory and Cantley made a run 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.359 and Glover seems to have finally hit a wall, but 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:22.080 not on the greens. He's struggling getting to them, which 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:25.679 is typically his strength and an indicator that he has spent. 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:31.360 It's his putter that's actually saving him. 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Okay, 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:05.520 let's go to CBS on that Sunday, August thirteenth, twenty 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.440 twenty three, as Glover, who has a one shot lead 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:11.480 over Cantley, has a long putt to save par on 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:13.680 the thirteenth. 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:15.320 Ah, He's done it. 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:23.360 Wow to look about clutch run to the next tea. 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:29.120 On that next t a par three, he rinsed his iron. 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.680 Here's Jim Nance and Ian Baker Finch on the call 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:36.039 as he hits his third shot back to fourteen. 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.080 Can he get it in close enough to make another 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:44.400 good putt for the bogie? 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:47.520 Here's Ian Baker Finch and Dottie Pepper on that putt 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:48.480 to save bogie. 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.800 Can he make two in a row? 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:53.240 Yeah, yes he can. 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:59.120 Water putt for Glover comm unbeliever twenty feet at the thirteenth, 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.719 thirty feet for body here at fourteen. 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:04.839 After a par at fifteen, he birdies the par five 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.560 sixteenth to get back into a tie with can't lay 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:11.880 at fifteen under this for par at seventeen. Baker Finch 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.480 back on the call. 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:18.239 Lind up straight, struck it straight and straight in the middle. 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:27.559 Lurcus Glover has hung in there once again. 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.480 After making par on the eighteenth, it was off to 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:31.880 a playoff. Here's Jim Nance. 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:37.640 Two men will battle it out in Memphis, Lucas Glover 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:38.840 and Patrick Cantlay. 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.560 Cantley rinsed his first playoff te shot and after Glover 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.440 lagged up for an easy par, Patrick Cantley had a 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.040 twenty two foot putt to extend the playoff back to. 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:51.440 Nance has to make it or Glover is the champion. 0:07:55.640 --> 0:08:02.160 Got a chance? Oh sends the edge and Lucas Glover 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:07.560 goes back to back, including the opening leg of the 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:12.440 FedEx Cup playoffs one for the old guys. 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.960 This was win number six for the forty three year 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:20.880 old Glover, a life changing and career altering stretch of golf, 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.720 with the yips seemingly in the rear view mirror. Back 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:25.640 to mac Barnhardt. 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:30.280 He went back to back on the PGA Tour against 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:33.280 two of the best fields in the game, coming in 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.240 with the FedEx Cup and all the pressure in the. 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:42.600 Back that that that you can't believe. And then to 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:44.440 add ind to that, you know it's it's one hundred 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:47.199 and eighty thousand degrees. You know they're playing on the sun. 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:50.960 You know, he hits it in the water on fourteen, 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:55.280 whereas before you know that might have had a little 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.080 Lucas did. I watched very closely when he hit in 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.160 the water. He didn't, he didn't really do anything. You know, 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.000 them just kind of went and walked over to the 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:05.080 drop area. You know this guy, I mean, he's a 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:09.000 he's a warrior now you know. But yeah, nobody will 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:10.760 never know. No, And I'm glad you know that. I mean, 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:15.720 nobody understands just the distractions of going from I don't 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:17.079 know what was he one hundred and tenth and fed 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.640 X to I don't know where he was, but he 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.920 went to the top seventy FedEx or somethwhere top fifty. 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:27.360 That alone is enough distraction to kind of go, let 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:32.720 your outsigh relief. You know, I've made it. That's what happens. 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:34.760 It's like the guy that finishes the race. They run 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:36.560 through the tape, you know, they put their arms out 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:38.240 and they run through the tape and then they collapse. 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.120 Because that's kind of what went in the god urnament is. 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.440 I mean, it takes so much out of you and 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:45.000 when and so for him to come back in the 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:49.560 heat again, same heat, to be rested and against the 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:53.240 testament to Kobe who trains him and keeps him in 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:57.079 line like that. But he's forty three too. He's not 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.280 not a child. I mean, he's in GoF he's he's 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.760 he's been playing twenty years out there to get that 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:08.960 mental stamina to hang in there. It doesn't shock me 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.000 with him, but it's still I mean, you would have 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.800 been okay if he'd finished top five. He just said, Man, 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.240 that was a great run to come back in a 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:21.440 playoff and beat Patrick Cantley. Yeah, that was. I mean, 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.439 for me, it's one of those things I'm standing there watching. 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:28.400 I I mean, I was stunned. I don't. I think 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.600 stunned is as easy as best all I can say 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:32.040 to me. 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.000 It goes at that point, it goes from being a 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:35.680 golf story to a sports story. 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:36.679 I agree. 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:37.480 I agree. 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.440 He's a sportsman, so it would make sense, you know, 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:47.959 and you know that is when you know you know Lucas. 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.560 I think it was he hit nine greens on Sunday 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:55.880 at Memphis, and I remember I think he said to 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:57.960 me he didn't feel like that mini greens or something 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:01.480 kind of but and I was like, I remember saying 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:05.600 to him, I said, Amen, I go, these guys can't 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:11.000 let you beat them hitting nine greens. Got we got 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:15.000 some we got They better be paying attention because you know, 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.920 Lucas is the thirteen fourteen green guy day right, and 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.000 you can't let him beat you hitting nine dreams. 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:24.760 Back to Lucas Glover again. Our conversation was in September, 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.040 a few weeks after his back to back wins in 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:28.520 August of twenty twenty three. 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.800 You're in the bloodstream, You're you are, this is you. 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:35.600 This is your personal story. Are you able to see 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:39.040 that it goes from like that's a damn good golf 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.880 story to holy shit, this is a sports story. 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:46.560 Yeah? I think so, But mainly for the reasons I 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:50.959 mentioned earlier. Is those you know, the stories of perseverance 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:54.679 and the stories of self belief and hard work and 0:11:55.840 --> 0:12:00.560 believing in yourself and all those cliches that we attached 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:06.080 to sports, and unfortunately not enough to two people outside 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.040 of sports that that are doing the same things in 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:13.680 different ways. But but yeah, yeah, I see that, and 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:17.560 I hope I hope people see it or some one 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:21.800 person sees it and changes their mindset about something. Just 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.800 that'll be enough for me. But but yeah, I do 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:32.960 understand the influence is the right word. But I do 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:36.920 understand the impact. That's the there's the word that that 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.880 that it could have and that makes me. That makes 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:44.240 me happy and more thankful is that, like we said, 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.640 we can I can use this to to push my 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:50.520 kids in a in a positive way, and then other 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.559 people that that may be able to use this as 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:55.120 as a as a motivator. 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.440 Isn't it really just about like your son or your 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:00.800 daughter saying, I'm proud of you, daddy, and that now 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:05.600 you've given them, You've given them the thing that they'll 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:07.720 be able to hold on to for like you know, 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:11.480 you're referencing your grandfather and the accomplishments he's had. You know, 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.120 they'll be able to reference you for the rest of 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:14.720 their life. 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:15.960 And I saw my. 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.439 Because they're at an age where it's not like they're 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:22.240 one or two or even you know, thirty or thirty two. 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:26.440 They're at a very tender, impactful agent. Isn't that what 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:27.320 it's about? 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.959 One hundred percent? One hundred percent you know if you yeah, 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.480 you hope in life you reach them first, you know 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:38.960 your bubble. If not, you're doing it wrong, right, You 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:42.040 just hope you get that chance one hundred percent. Yeah, 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:47.160 well yeah, absolutely and yeah, but yeah, back to what 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.439 we said, you know, practice what you preach, and now 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:51.800 I can have a I have something I can point 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.520 to and say, remember you were there, that's that was 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:58.320 that moment, that's where it all came and h and yeah, 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:03.720 just to have that opportunity to have that, to have 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.880 that potential impact on them, it was all that all 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.960 that any of us care about as parents. 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:14.360 Amen to that. Back to Michael Simms, Glover's longtime friend. 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:18.000 Again, Matt, it was it was neat to see everything 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:21.720 kind of it was neat to see Mac do his thing, 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:27.160 you know, and put pieces of the puzzle kind of 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.640 on the table, and then to watch them all get 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:37.520 put together is uh, it's exciting, It's really really cool. 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.320 A big part of what was put together was Jason 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:45.560 Kohn again, the former Navy seal. 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.880 To win a PGA Tour event is bonkers. There's only 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:52.920 like you know, there's only one every week and the 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:59.520 rest are all losers in theory. So to see Lucas 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.560 do that at then to follow it up with all 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.400 the other distractions that come with a win and the 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:11.360 exhaustion that comes with with a win, mental, physical, you know, 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:13.400 you got to get up and then get to the 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.360 next venue and get right in and you're talking about 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:19.720 full field like, you know, these are He's not winning 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:23.960 low level events. These are elite level events. Playoffs would 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:28.480 be shocking to everybody else in this It's it wasn't 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.680 just a golf story. It was a sports story. This 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.440 was this was transcendent at that point. To win back 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:39.960 to back PGA Tour events is absolutely mind boggling shocking 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:43.320 to the general public and anybody who actually follows the 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:47.640 game at a high level. But was it surprising to you? 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:52.080 No, I mean I wouldn't say it was surprising a 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.880 little bit, of course, because of the odds that are involved. 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:58.200 But I've always felt like an underdog, and I've always 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.480 rooted for the underdog, and that's what we set out 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:04.000 to do, you know. And I mean, yeah, originally it's 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:05.880 We're going to overcome the yips and get your game 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.760 back on par and start moving up the ladder and whatever. 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:12.560 But you won back to back. 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:15.080 I mean, you know, I mean with. 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:16.720 Our intention though, that's what we want to do. We 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:20.400 want to keep that up, you know. And yeah, I 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:24.680 mean it's I was just I guess I've had a 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:26.680 surprised of course, a little bit. But you know, I 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:30.560 think that critics and the low odds, rather than being 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:34.920 defining characteristics of our capability, they're natural properties of difficult tasks. 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.360 That's what makes them special and worthy of pursuit. And 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:40.280 it's the pursuit of an aim that keeps our soul 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:43.120 alife more so than the accomplishment of it. And so 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:47.440 why limit ourselves with Okay, well, if we get in 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:49.600 the top twenty, that'll be good enough, you know, Or 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:51.400 if we get in this that or the other thing, 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:53.520 that'll be good enough. Like let's set our sites on 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.200 winning this and winning all of them. Why wouldn't we, 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:02.240 you know, And we'll see what happened. But that's the intention. 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:03.600 I mean, we don't go out on a mission and 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:05.439 the Seal teems to kind of feel it out and 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.400 see how it goes. We're going out to absolutely dominate, 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:14.320 you know, destroying, destroying, demoralize on our opponent as soon 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:17.000 as possible. Now in competition, of course, there's some moral 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.159 ethical boundaries that are different from combat and things like that, 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.720 but that's what we're going into. Absolutely crush the competition. 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.040 We're going in to win every single time, all of them. 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:30.760 It must be so rewarding it is to be you 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:34.960 and to have this kind of impact on people's lives 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:40.040 because they must feel so lost and so embarrassed. 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:45.040 We're so you know, angst ridden, and then you're able 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:45.960 to like bring it. 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:48.800 Back it's very meaningful to me, and it's incredibly rewarding. 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:54.600 And it's because when I was in college, I never 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:56.840 heard of the term yips. Until the years after I 0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:01.080 was done playing. I didn't know what had happened. I 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:04.879 just knew it was some sort of anomaly, you know. 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:06.880 I knew I wasn't mentally weak, and then I went 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:08.960 and I proved that by going through buds and seal 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:09.880 training and how weak. 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:11.880 But I never really knew. 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.760 But when I take myself back to that point in time, 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:16.119 and I think, I kind of try to not go 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:22.159 there too often. It was so dark, and it was 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:25.000 so hard, and it was so embarrassing, and it was 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:30.560 frustrating because you don't know how to describe it to anyone, 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:33.040 you know, and it's very lonely and you feel like 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.080 you're the only person in the world. This was before 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.800 social media, so you can't get on there and look 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:41.280 it up, you know, like AOL I think was coming 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.320 around about that time or something, you know, the dial 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:46.560 up internet, so it's not like you can hop on Google. 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:48.600 And even if we had, I wouldn't know what the 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:50.399 college because I've never heard of the yips, you know, 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:54.720 I just it was so hard, but I found God 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:58.240 through it, I developed I learned about myself through it. 0:18:58.280 --> 0:18:59.800 I got better through it, and I think that implosion 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:03.879 of made me a person capable of becoming a Navy seal. 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:07.560 And then through the sealed teams, the experiences, relationships developed, 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:13.880 and confidence gained, all sorts of things helped me develop 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:17.479 a solution for this problem. And it's incredibly rewarding and 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:21.080 meaningful to me to help athletes with it. And that's 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:24.520 why it's it's always a different version of the same story, 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:26.639 you know, when they come to me and start talking 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:28.159 through it, and. 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:32.520 Yeah, let's go back to Glover. 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:35.760 Was it just like this massive stress test and then 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:38.800 you now you're able to kind of stop down, reflect 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:42.120 and reset and reconfigure your future. 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:46.720 Yeah yeah, yeah, for sure. You know, go from Memphis 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:51.240 to Chicago and still kind of riding the high there, 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:53.240 just didn't play that great and then kind of ran 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.679 out of gas in Atlanta. To be honest, I was exhausted, 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.880 but yeah, got home, yeah, yeah, and then got home 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:05.760 and I've just been home. Man, it's been awesome and 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.440 just yeah, I don't haven't been talking about it much, 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:16.000 but I've sure been thinking about it a lot, and yeah, 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:21.320 it's just reflecting on it. But again, I'm not really 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:24.120 that way. I'm like, well, all right, let's use this, 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:27.960 let's use this, let's go have the best year we've 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:31.040 had next year. And I'm in all the majors, I'm 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:35.080 in all the signature events. And you know, I got 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:37.639 home and Sunday night and Tuesday I was in the 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:42.520 gym and and just motivated, just and happy and it's fun. 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:47.439 And I played golf one time since Atlanta, and but 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:52.639 it's not ever too far from my brain. And just 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:54.440 trying to get back in shape and get my body 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.000 where I wanted and play a couple of times this fall, 0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.800 and and uh, just stay fresh for twenty four. 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:01.800 So fun. 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:04.800 Absolutely, it is so fun. 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:06.440 Back to Michael Simms. 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:09.280 You know, it wasn't until after the Tour Championship that 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:12.359 I got to say some of the things that I 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:14.840 wanted to really say to him, just really really proud 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:16.640 of really proud of them, and. 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:18.399 Give me a give me a nugget or two of 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:21.679 what you really wanted to say to them. 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:31.080 I think that's just between Lucas and I. Some things 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:39.600 are best left unsaid, you know. 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:41.480 There there. 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:46.080 I mean I love the man, So it's it's uh, it. 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:48.400 Was nothing, but really really, you know, it was it was, 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:54.040 it was great things, it was, it was really cool. 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:56.359 It was nice. It was a really really nice conversation. 0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:00.000 A person like Michael Simms, What what is it about 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:05.119 out him and that relationship? That's that that you know? 0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:09.280 Is that just like best friendship? Is that the best 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:12.280 way to describe a relationship like with a guy like Michael. 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:18.320 Yeah, he's he's very good at wording things in ways 0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:22.520 that make you He just tells it like it is. 0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:25.520 He just says, You're never ever ever going to admit 0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:28.280 to me that how awesome that was. But I'm here 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:31.720 to tell you that was awesome, and you're never ever 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:33.639 ever going to brag about it. But I'm going to 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:36.160 brag to you. So you have to hear it. And 0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:40.000 just you know, everybody needs that friend. When it's good, 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:42.680 he reminds you. And then when it's bad, it's never 0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:46.800 that bad. But yeah, he's seen it, he's lived it, 0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:52.359 he's played the game, he struggled with the game, and yeah, 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:55.840 you know, he but he's not the type of friend 0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:58.479 that tries to fix everything. He wants to hear it. 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:01.080 From me. He wants to hear my struggles, and then 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:04.760 he thinks about it for a little bit, and then 0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:07.080 a few days later, you know, I've been thinking about that. 0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:11.960 And it's never that quick fix. It's never that knee 0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:14.960 jerk reaction. It's always well, let me you know. And 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:16.600