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Speaker 3: Put another log on the fire.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to the fire pit with Matt Chanella.

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Speaker 6: So Lucas Glover wins the Windham Championship and for anyone

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Speaker 6: paying attention, especially his inner circle of friends, it wasn't

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Speaker 7: And Mac just said, man, this is this is incredible,

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Speaker 8: That's the one. He's that's the one he's going.

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Speaker 2: And you've hit the nail exactly on the head by

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Speaker 6: Glover opened with a sixty six, followed by a sixty four.

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Speaker 6: let's go to CBS on that Sunday, August thirteenth, twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty three, as Glover, who has a one shot lead

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Speaker 5: Ah, He's done it.

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Speaker 11: Lind up straight, struck it straight and straight in the middle.

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Speaker 6: Cantley rinsed his first playoff te shot and after Glover

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Speaker 14: Nance has to make it or Glover is the champion.

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Speaker 14: Got a chance? Oh sends the edge and Lucas Glover

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Speaker 4: He went back to back on the PGA Tour against

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Speaker 14: You know, he hits it in the water on fourteen,

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Speaker 14: I think it was he hit nine greens on Sunday

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Speaker 1: So fun.

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Speaker 7: I think that's just between Lucas and I. Some things

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Speaker 6: second question from Doug Ferguson.

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Speaker 12: I know this has cappened kind of fast, but in

435
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Speaker 12: the last I don't know five starts. Has the Ryder

436
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Speaker 12: Cup gotten on your mind at all? About fifteen minutes ago,

437
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 12: what'd you think? I think I've never made it and

438
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 12: I want to.

439
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Speaker 17: And if you, I think you'd have to win next

440
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 17: week to earn your spot onto the team.

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Speaker 12: If you don't, would you pick you.

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00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 2: Right now? Yes? Playing pretty good golf, and I think

443
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: I'd be pretty good in the team room and be

444
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: a good partner, So yeah, absolutely I would.

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Speaker 6: After the win in Memphis, Glover finished T. Twenty two

446
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Speaker 6: at the BMW Championship, and in the Tour Championship, his

447
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 6: ninth event in ten weeks, he finished T. Eighteen and then,

448
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 6: as we all know by now, on August thirtieth, Glover

449
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 6: was passed up by captain Zach Johnson to play for

450
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Speaker 6: Team USA. Here's Mac Barnhart.

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Speaker 2: If you're Zach.

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Speaker 1: Johnson, would you have put him on your team?

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Speaker 14: Two seconds? Two seconds? Jackson neighbor down the road here.

454
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Speaker 14: I mean, I've been in that war room with Davis

455
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 14: when they're doing pigs. It's not easy.

456
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: It's not easy.

457
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Speaker 14: But I mean he and Keingan Bradley, I mean, probably

458
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Speaker 14: two hottest players in the world. Yeah, you know, like

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Speaker 14: I say, we're gratefully disappointed. We're disappointed and that we

460
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Speaker 14: didn't do it. We're grateful that we were even part

461
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Speaker 14: of the conversation. I'm like that, but would not to

462
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Speaker 14: take Lucas Glover if he gave you any hint that

463
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Speaker 14: he was ready to play. I don't even I can't

464
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Speaker 14: even find them what anybody was thinking. I mean, Brian

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Speaker 14: Harmon and Lucas Glover. Put them together, and they're not

466
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Speaker 14: going to miss the fairwell, they're not going to miss

467
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Speaker 14: a green and both of.

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Speaker 2: Them can pie.

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Speaker 1: Michael Simms, if you're Zach Johnson, do you pick Lucas

470
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: Glover to be on that Ryder Cup team?

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Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, I do, you know, but that's

472
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 7: that's neither here nor there. He's got so many great

473
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 7: things to look forward to in these next you know,

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Speaker 7: with this next season and moving.

475
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 8: Forward with his with his own career, Like.

476
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 7: You know, that stuffs great, but you know it's it's

477
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 7: a it's a nice little show. And then and that

478
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Speaker 7: I would love for him to be a part of

479
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 7: because I know what I know what that means to him.

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00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 7: You know, he's he's played on the Walker Cup team and.

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Speaker 8: It would have been really really special.

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Speaker 7: Let's just say that, and and uh, but I know

483
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 7: there's a lot of other things that are involved, and

484
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Speaker 7: it's pretty neat that he's in the conversation again, awesome

485
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Speaker 7: that he's in the conversation when I picked.

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Speaker 8: Him, Yeah, he's hot. Would I want Lucas putting for

487
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 8: me right now?

488
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 7: Absolutely? Would I want him hitting the T ball for me? Yes,

489
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Speaker 7: what I want. And he's a team player, and you know,

490
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 7: like I said, he's got a lot of heart and

491
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 7: like Mac always says, you can't measure that.

492
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 6: Let's give Glover the final word on the Ryder Cup.

493
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Speaker 1: Would you have picked yourself to be on that Ryder

494
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Speaker 1: Cup team?

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00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: Yes, I said it then, I'll say it now. And

496
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 2: you know, they they revamped the system to pick the

497
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: hot guy, and he was pretty hot. You know, gave

498
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: out a gas there in Atlanta, didn't have the greatest finish,

499
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: but you know, I felt like I fit the criteria.

500
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: I guess I kind of understand why I didn't, But

501
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: you know, I, uh, one hundred and one under par

502
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: since Detroit, I would think that's pretty hot.

503
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: Mac called it grateful, disappointment, grateful, grateful to be in

504
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: the conversation, disappointed to not be in the tournament.

505
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. And that's exactly what Tommy said

506
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: as well. A texting texted him that we weren't going,

507
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: and he says, well, back in June, if we you

508
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: told me we were having this conversation, uh, we just

509
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: said you're crazy. But but yeah, that's perfectly termed grateful disappointment. Yeah,

510
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: exactly right.

511
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: Zach is you know you guys are you guys? Are

512
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: you guys?

513
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: Are in?

514
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 9: Been been in and around, You've been been friends, you know, peers, competitors,

515
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 9: you know a long time?

516
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: Was that it was it? Do you think it was

517
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: tougher on you or tougher on him to to make

518
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: that call or feel that call?

519
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 2: Probably him. I've talked to several former captains and they said,

520
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: that's the hardest part of the gig. And uh, you know,

521
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: Zach came, Zach and I came out together and four

522
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: on tour in the same class on corn Ferry and

523
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: O three and been friendly and friends, very friendly ever since.

524
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: And in the back of my head, knowing that how

525
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 2: difficult that was from hearing it from other people, I

526
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: just didn't make it any harder than I knew it

527
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: was for him. Just said, amen, I understand, no problem,

528
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: good luck, and uh, I'll be pulling for you and

529
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: that you know, So yeah, I can only imagine how

530
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: difficult that was, because you know, as the captain, how

531
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: how much everybody else wants it, and uh yeah, I

532
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: had to be very difficult in that conversation.

533
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: Does he just simply tell you that that he wasn't

534
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: able to pick here or does he tell you that

535
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: he picked someone up?

536
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 8: Like?

537
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: Is it just a short conversation? Probably not long?

538
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: No, No, wasn't long. I made like I said, I'll

539
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: try to make it as short as possible and as

540
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: easy only as possible. He just said that what in

541
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: uh uh what in the what in the fit? He

542
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: was looking for type conversation. So that's fine.

543
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 6: Meanwhile, let's go back to lab golf. Here's Sam Han

544
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 6: reflecting on Glovers back to backs.

545
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 17: I'm just so happy for him, man, I mean this

546
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 17: is you know, as anybody who's in the golf world knows.

547
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 17: I mean, this is one of golf's best dudes. Like,

548
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 17: just so awesome, and I applaud obviously, the resurgence is

549
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 17: incredible and staying on, you know, committed to trying something different.

550
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 17: All that stuff's really impressive. What I find equally, if

551
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 17: not more impressive, is the fact that the dude kept

552
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 17: his card for ten years with the yips like that.

553
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 17: That takes a level like and and now that I

554
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 17: think about it, when I realized that that he did

555
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 17: that he kept his card with the yips, which nobody does.

556
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 17: Like the dude who finishes one hundred and ninety eight

557
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 17: on tour and putting loses his card every year, period

558
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 17: like period.

559
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: And he didn't.

560
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 17: And he didn't because he had a level of acceptance,

561
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 17: you know, about what he was dealing with, and you know,

562
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 17: and you'd see him miss short pots. I'm sure he'd

563
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 17: get mad, he slapped his leg or whatever, but like

564
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 17: for the most part, you miss your your your fourth

565
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 17: four foot of a round, that next drive is going

566
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 17: in the fucking trees and then you're hitting the tree

567
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 17: trying to punch out, and then you're shooting seventy six

568
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 17: and you're going home. And he didn't, you know, he

569
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 17: had this, he had he had enough of the ability

570
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 17: to compartmentalize his putting that allowed him to maintain his

571
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 17: extraordinary ball striking. And he's one of like two guys

572
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 17: that I can think of pretty much, him and Sergio

573
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 17: Garcia the only two guys that have that have transcended

574
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 17: horrendous putting with other worldly ball striking, and he did it,

575
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 17: you know, and he compartmentalizes putting with sings another yuy, yeah,

576
00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 17: absolutely great call, great call yeah, And and totally exact

577
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 17: same thing, where these guys just didn't let their shitty

578
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 17: putting bother them and they knew they were going to

579
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 17: hit it well enough to maintain.

580
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: And then.

581
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: Ben Hogan for that matter, fucking he tested fucking putting.

582
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 17: Of course, he said they should be two different games,

583
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 17: and before Lab I used to agree.

584
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 6: In two weeks of wins, Glover doubled his career earnings

585
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 6: in the previous five years out on tour, which included

586
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 6: a win at the John Deere.

587
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 17: By the way, what.

588
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: Does that meant for the LAB business? How many putt?

589
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: Like?

590
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 18: What?

591
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: How obscene? Is this from a business perspective?

592
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 17: It's obscene, but not catastrophic. Explain if he'd have won

593
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 17: with a conventional directed force, it would have been catastrophic.

594
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 17: I mean, we'd have had way more orders than we

595
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 17: would have been able to fulfill in the next six months.

596
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 17: It's been a massive explosion for sure. I mean business

597
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 17: is virtually doubled overnight, but it didn't quadruple because it

598
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 17: was a broomstick, so so which is interesting too, Like

599
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 17: I have it in my head that if it had

600
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 17: been Adam winning two weeks in a row. Yeah, Lucas's

601
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 17: win definitely validated the technology in a lot of minds.

602
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 17: For the for the avid golfer who knows who we

603
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 17: are and starting to see him pop up at their

604
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 17: country club and seeing them around wondering what these things about.

605
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 17: Lucas winning definitely validated some of the tech. It also

606
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 17: validated broomsticking because I think in the mind of the

607
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 17: average golfer, I would say that him switching to a

608
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 17: broom was probably more relevant in their minds than than

609
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 17: the technology in that room. And so it's been really funny.

610
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 17: I would I guarantee guarantee that we've broke an all

611
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 17: time global broomstick sales record in the last two weeks.

612
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 9: This is what like give me like you you went

613
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 9: from like selling five putters a week or whatever the

614
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 9: number was.

615
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 17: We sold more broomsticks in the last week than we

616
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 17: had in the last two years combined. We had one

617
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 17: we had one one entity.

618
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 2: What they called uh.

619
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 17: Golf Golf Supply like in Alabama or something like that

620
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 17: called up the next dame about one hundred and twenty brooms,

621
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 17: which is greaty.

622
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 5: They sell it five hundred bucks apiece or or or

623
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 5: seven Yeah.

624
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean we we got all kinds of fun

625
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 17: custom upgrades. I think if you're growing straight steel, yeah,

626
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 17: maybe it's like five fifty five seventy five something like that.

627
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 17: Next shaft up is going to be six fifty, which

628
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 17: is probably the acroshaft, which is probably the most popular

629
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 17: of everybody ordering these things up. And then you know

630
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 17: you put the the you know, a couple other high

631
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 17: end chefts that we have in there. You know, you

632
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 17: spend a thousand bucks pretty quick on one of those things.

633
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 17: And yeah, I mean it's been crazy, and so we've

634
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 17: got so many first time broomstickers, which, like I said,

635
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 17: I think if it was Adam, I don't think it

636
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 17: would have had that effect. It might have had the effect,

637
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 17: it would have had the effect on lab like it

638
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 17: would have had. You know, we would have seen massive

639
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 17: sales increases and all that, but I don't think it

640
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 17: would have been nearly as broomstick specific as it was

641
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 17: with Lucas because of how well documented his short putting

642
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 17: woes were.

643
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: And so.

644
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 17: You know in the way he's telling the story too,

645
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 17: kind of I think makes broomsticking seem like less intimidating,

646
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 17: less scary. By the way.

647
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 2: I love putting with a broomstick.

648
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 17: It's an awesome way to put and I had never

649
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 17: touched one until we started prototyping for Adam, and I

650
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 17: developed my own technique on my own, just most of

651
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 17: so I could figure out which feels good and understand

652
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 17: the feedback that he was giving us on how to

653
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 17: make these things and how they were supposed to look

654
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 17: and feel and whatever. And I think it's an incredible

655
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 17: way to putt. And it's just so funny, like when

656
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 17: people grab it. When I'm putting with one, and people

657
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 17: grab it to try it. You got four seconds. They

658
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 17: pull it back. It's so heavy, they feel it fall

659
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 17: to the inside, they loop it around. It feels all

660
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 17: completely out of control, and they're like, geek, not for me,

661
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 17: and they don't give it another try when all it

662
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 17: takes is another fifteen seconds and somebody's saying like, no,

663
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 17: this is how you make it work, and then it'll work.

664
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 6: Back to Adam Beach, owner of my Golf Spy and

665
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 6: independent company testing anything in everything, A golfer buys and uses.

666
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 9: What are your thoughts knowing what you know about LAB

667
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 9: putters and this technology, and then knowing how hard it

668
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 9: is to keep your card and be Lucas Glover and

669
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 9: then to win back to back, what are your thoughts

670
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 9: on that?

671
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 5: Is it validation or is it a some.

672
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 9: Or what.

673
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 19: Lots of golfers over the history of time have found

674
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 19: the putter that work for them, right, So LAB is

675
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 19: not unique in that. Right, Lucas Glover found the putter

676
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 19: that is working for him.

677
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 2: That's great.

678
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 19: But the interesting thing is we're finding that with so

679
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 19: many people and it's not broken out into the tour

680
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 19: yet because it is an oddity. So where you're seeing

681
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 19: it is and people that were willing to take a

682
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 19: chance to solve a really hard problem.

683
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 16: Adam Scott.

684
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 19: A lot of the people on the live you're seeing

685
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 19: play with it, Lucas Glover, and it's solving the problem.

686
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 19: But what you're not seeing on TV because they don't

687
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 19: cover amateurs, is this putter is solving problems like that

688
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 19: for people all over the world that aren't professional golfers,

689
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 19: which is the really cool thing.

690
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: You know.

691
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 19: The other thing too, that I think is great for

692
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 19: Lucas Glover Lab golfers in general is like you said,

693
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 19: at the end of a tournament, the camera is focused

694
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 19: on the putter, right, And if a putter can win

695
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 19: a big tournament, go back to Payne Stewart and Seymour Putters.

696
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 19: I was actually involved with Seymour Putters at a time

697
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 19: like that, and I remember there were thirty thousand orders

698
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 19: that came in and actually bankrupted the company because they

699
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 19: couldn't keep up with the orders. LAB is going to

700
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 19: have a similar situation. And here's why. If it was

701
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 19: just a Scottie Cameron winning, a few people would go

702
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 19: out and buy it. But not only is this putter

703
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 19: winning and helping a golfer, but it's such a polarizing

704
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 19: looking design like Seymour's was back in the day that

705
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 19: people go Every golfer is looking for the solution, the

706
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 19: club that can take them from a ninety to seventy two,

707
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 19: and they actually think there's a single club for a

708
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 19: training aid.

709
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 14: That can do that.

710
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 19: So this gives them hope, right, and every golfer is

711
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 19: looking for hope. I just talked to my dad. He's

712
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 19: eighty years old, and look, he's never figured it out.

713
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 19: But he calls me, he said, I think I finally

714
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 19: figured it out. So Okay, sure, I mean he's still

715
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 19: he's still got that hope.

716
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: You know.

717
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 19: So when people see that lab putter, help a guy

718
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 19: like Lucas Sclover that has had the yips with a putter,

719
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 19: and they they also relate to that struggle because all

720
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 19: of us have struggled like that. That's human, right, that's amateur.

721
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 19: And now see an amateur be able to put as

722
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 19: well as he has with this putter.

723
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: That's real.

724
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 19: I mean, it's just authentic.

725
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: You know.

726
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 8: You can't you can't.

727
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 6: You can't manufacture that from Adam Beach to Adam Scott.

728
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 9: Okay, now here comes Lucas Glover. Where where at what point?

729
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 9: At what point do you uh, where was it or

730
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 9: how was it in which you had a conversation which

731
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 9: you know, Lucas ultimately ends up with a lab in

732
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 9: his bag?

733
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't know.

734
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 20: What I did notice this year wash and last year

735
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 20: was a few guys came to talk to me about it.

736
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 20: Charles Waltzel talked to me about it last year at

737
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 20: the Byron Nelson and Thursday morning he was still unsure whether.

738
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: He should put it in or not?

739
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 20: Uh, And I said, well, you know, I'm not here

740
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 20: to tell you whether you should put it in play

741
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 20: or not, but why don't you just do the same

742
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 20: things you did in practice, which she told me was

743
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 20: so good today. How it couldn't be worse, Like he

744
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 20: wasn't putting or playing particularly well. I said, I don't

745
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 20: think it can be worse, so you should just think

746
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 20: of it the same you were making everything you said,

747
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 20: And he went out and made like twenty six birdies

748
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 20: that week and shot twenty something under and finished top

749
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 20: ten for his first top ten in a few years

750
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 20: on the tour. And he then left to live but

751
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 20: he won the first live event with the lab. You know,

752
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 20: kind of a little bit out of nowhere, respectfully saying

753
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 20: that about a Master's champion, but you know, he had

754
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 20: him in playing well. And then this year I kept

755
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 20: watching more and more guys put labs in play around

756
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 20: the world, and I saw Ben Arnes. James Hahn first

757
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 20: switched and he led strokes game putting his first week

758
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 20: in Hilton Head. Ben Arnes switched and turned his game around.

759
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 20: That was kind of midway through the season, and that

760
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 20: about the same time Lucas Glover opped in and put

761
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 20: it in play as well, and obviously we saw very

762
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 20: well what he did, you know, And to me, it

763
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 20: just looks like it's complimenting the rest of their games,

764
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 20: is what it looks like it's doing, and giving them

765
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 20: the freedom to play the way that they know they can,

766
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 20: and obviously giving them a hell of a lot of

767
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 20: confidence to go out and make some putts on the greens.

768
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 9: Lucas being an example of obviously the wherewithal or the

769
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 9: perseverance and the toughness to do what he has done,

770
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 9: which is keep his card for for so long, regardless

771
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 9: of putting struggles for so long, very very very famously

772
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 9: infamously now at this point where he just you know,

773
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 9: we saw him. Every anybody who's a golfer can somewhat

774
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 9: relate to just that, that pain and the the optics

775
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 9: of it all. Just so nobody wants to look right

776
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 9: and then and then to go on and uh and

777
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 9: to win back to back against formidable fields and and

778
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 9: and literally resurrect his whole career. Do you you do

779
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 9: you remember any kind of conversation you had with him,

780
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 9: or or anything in which did he come to you,

781
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 9: did you did you at that point then become almost

782
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 9: like the shepherd or the sherpa, helping people get up

783
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 9: to the to the top to the top of their mountains.

784
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:39,959
Speaker 10: Yeah.

785
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 20: No, I joked that we're starting a little bit of

786
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 20: a cult and we're going to have meetings every uh

787
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 20: every Friday evening out there. But no, Lucas didn't come

788
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 20: to me. But you know, we played college golf at

789
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 20: the same time. We are similar age and we've known

790
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 20: each other a long time. Uh, And you know, he's

791
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 20: he's a think his mind. I don't know much about

792
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 20: his game and what he gets up to with his game,

793
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 20: but you know, here's a guy who likes doing crosswords

794
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 20: to activate his brain. And you know he's a smart guy.

795
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 20: And there's no doubt that when you're struggling with your

796
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 20: putting like he has, it's just it's just such hard work.

797
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 20: You know, anyone who's felt a tough time on the

798
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 20: greens can relate. You know, I think back to that.

799
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 20: My frustration levels was so high in twenty ten, with

800
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 20: good putting and bad putting. I just didn't know what

801
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 20: was going to show up. It was either good or terrible,

802
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 20: and I just couldn't do it anymore.

803
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 8: So I said, that's it.

804
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 20: I'm going to learn something new. Yeah, I see more

805
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 20: guys doing it. And it doesn't it doesn't have to

806
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 20: be a broomstick. I just feel like I've just been

807
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 20: on a search for the last ten years and like,

808
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 20: what is the best piece of equipment that will help

809
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 20: me hit more good putts? And you know, that's kind

810
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 20: of the path I'm still going down. And I think,

811
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 20: you know, a lot of the tech, all the technology

812
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 20: in a lab start you in such a good place.

813
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 20: You know you're getting you're giving yourself a great chance

814
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 20: before you've even moved it, and then when it moves,

815
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 20: it moves better.

816
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 6: To Kelly Slater, who we learned about in episodes three

817
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 6: and four, was one of the early adopters of the

818
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 6: lab Look and Results. It was Slater's putting at Pebble

819
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 6: Beach that led Adam Scott to try and one.

820
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 16: There's something there that's really special.

821
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 10: And I'm really super glad to see that FROs are

822
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 10: catching on to it, because that's what becomes accepted by

823
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 10: the masses after that.

824
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 16: But you know, to see Lucas when when.

825
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 10: When obviously he's had some putting woes, over the years,

826
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 10: and I think there was three or four in the

827
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 10: top seven that same week. He's in the lab Putter.

828
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,959
Speaker 10: I think most of them on the MEZ. A couple

829
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 10: of guys are on the directed force that I like.

830
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 10: I prefer the directed force myself, but I think visually,

831
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 10: if probably people have a problem with the directed force,

832
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 10: they end up leaning towards the mez and trying that,

833
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 10: and it just for me, it didn't. It didn't square

834
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 10: up as well as the directed force.

835
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 16: It does for me.

836
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 10: But you know, Charles Howe's using them as Adams using

837
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 10: them as I think Lucas using them as Yeah, I've

838
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 10: I've bought a few for other people too, or ordered some.

839
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 10: I actually played with Obama and he was he was

840
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 10: checking the buttter out, like what is this thing?

841
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 16: So I had Sam sending one. It's just been a

842
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 16: fun journey.

843
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 10: I really enjoyed feeling like I have some small partner,

844
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 10: but also watching something that I knew was great start

845
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 10: to become something.

846
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 16: And it's fun to feel like you're like going on

847
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 16: that journey with them.

848
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 9: You know, little validation, right, little validation of your instincts,

849
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 9: your sense of technology of validation for them and what

850
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 9: their their journey as a company. I mean I would

851
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 9: imagine all of that just and then to watch Lucas

852
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 9: the ultimate grinder, who's kept his card for ten years

853
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 9: regardless of all these putting wo for him to go

854
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 9: back to back, all of it is like such feel good.

855
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 16: It's insane.

856
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 10: Yeah, I get goosebumps when you just said that, because

857
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 10: it's so cool.

858
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 9: Man.

859
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 16: It's yeah.

860
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 10: I mean, I love seeing my friends succeed, and so

861
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 10: it's great. You know, Sam and I have become buddies

862
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 10: over the last few years, and I just love that

863
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 10: it's being accepted and and and sort of run with

864
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 10: by people. You know, A one putt two putts in

865
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 10: any tournament changes these guys' lives. Yeah, like, but it's

866
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 10: it's amazing, and I'm surprised that I'm surprised none of

867
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 10: the big guys have seen this and tried.

868
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 16: To come in and buy the company.

869
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 10: And I think now that it's finding its own footing,

870
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 10: it's maybe it's too late.

871
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 13: You know.

872
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 9: There is telling me that they were all playing, like Liam,

873
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 9: the Rep, and the skuy madd who works with them,

874
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 9: and they're all in these three different groups playing their tournament.

875
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: When Lucas was at the window.

876
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 9: And they all ran and they just ran to each

877
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 9: other and jumped up and hugged and celebrated when they

878
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 9: when you, yeah, it's and they've now doubled the sale.

879
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 9: The total sales of the company up to this point

880
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,919
Speaker 9: has doubled in the last month.

881
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 10: No, that's amazing, man, Now cool is that what a

882
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 10: success story?

883
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: Great?

884
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 10: It's a snowball, you know, because not just the pros

885
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 10: now so many more people are gonna be seeing that

886
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 10: putter at their courses, and then more people, oh let

887
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 10: me try that. Oh my god, I gotta get one

888
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 10: of those. It's just it's gonna be like it's a sensation.

889
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 10: I just knew it was kind of bubbling below the

890
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 10: surface and at some point everyone's.

891
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 16: Gonna go, Okay, we get it.

892
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 10: A product like this is like it reversed as the

893
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 10: sponsorship thing, where like the player has to pay a

894
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 10: little back to the company. That'd be kind of funny.

895
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 6: It was Brett Rumford, the Australian journeyman and short game

896
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 6: guru back in episode five, who said something similar as

897
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 6: it relates eats the ball and equipment deals, especially relating

898
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 6: to the putter. Here he is again reflecting on Glover's wins.

899
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 21: If you're a yipper, I mean, that's another world, isn't it.

900
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 21: I Mean that's like he's come from the full on

901
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 21: world of yipping. Like that's like that goes beyond a

902
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 21: sales pitch. That to me, to take someone that for

903
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 21: fifty was it fifty nine or sixty you had that

904
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 21: part from a foot and almost came out of the

905
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 21: circle te of the Scotty Cameron that who was using

906
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 21: like almost missed, almost missed the golf ball from foot

907
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 21: and a half.

908
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 13: You missed the whole by about two inches.

909
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 21: This is a guy that's on an absolute runner, like

910
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 21: he's he's got a put for fifty nine, so, which

911
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 21: is crazy.

912
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 13: But when that starts to set in, it's in.

913
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 21: But when you take someone that's that's a yipper to

914
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 21: a back to back winner like that, that goes beyond

915
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 21: the sales pitch, That just goes beyond, you know, that's

916
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 21: that's more the intuitive awareness that unlocks certain things with

917
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 21: an player that just frees them up, doesn't it. You know,

918
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 21: just that giving up control. He's you know, maybe for

919
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 21: the first time in his career. You know, he's literally

920
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 21: just given up control. He's had the feeling of it

921
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 21: anyway that he doesn't have to have this you know

922
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 21: control that we all have on the putter, so which

923
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 21: is just amazing. And that's just like walking my analogy

924
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 21: from before. It's it's really hard to try and give

925
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 21: up that control. But I think the technology is is

926
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 21: that there's just there's just no micro muscles that's holding

927
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 21: up any part of the putter. So all you're doing

928
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 21: is holding up sure the part of whatever lineboard that's in,

929
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 21: you're holding up the mass of the putter, but there's

930
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 21: this zero twist in your hands, so I mean you

931
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 21: can literally just put it with two.

932
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 13: Fingers and the thing just just swings by itself.

933
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 21: It's an amazing story, but it's you know, there's so

934
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 21: many facets to it that could be basically analyzed and

935
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 21: broken down. And I'm sure there's there's sykes out there

936
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 21: that just what I spend thirty minutes with him speaking.

937
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 21: I'm sure there's like the brain connection everything else. Like

938
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 21: psychologists are kind to basically say, yeah, that was me.

939
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 21: I'll be working with him for the last three months,

940
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 21: you know, studies put it, you know, says putting his

941
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 21: hand up and I'm sure it's a bit of a

942
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 21: concoction of everything. But for me, it is like I

943
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 21: say to my dad. You know, for all these psyche

944
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 21: gurus that are out there, I said to my dad,

945
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 21: I give him like a five stack of books. You know,

946
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 21: these guys here are like working with the best players

947
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 21: on the PGA tour.

948
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 13: So read that, Read all those books, and you'll be

949
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 13: on the seniors tour next year. He plays off twelve.

950
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 21: But there's still a point, right, there's still a point

951
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 21: where there's the genius of the player, you know, the

952
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 21: talent of the player that's played, you know for his

953
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 21: whole life. There's still that that work ethic that you need,

954
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 21: isn't it.

955
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 13: Then you need the information on top of it. It's a

956
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 13: bit of a blood of everything.

957
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 21: But and then when you get this, you know, this

958
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 21: technology in his hands. You know, he's got the golf

959
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 21: and DNA, he knows how to play the game. All

960
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 21: of a sudden, it just it just frees him up

961
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 21: and unlocks that that player within, doesn't it. And all

962
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 21: of a sudden it now just becomes he's a ball striker.

963
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 21: And now he's got the feeling that he's a winner.

964
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 21: And then that's that's a powerful concoction.

965
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 6: Liam Bedford of lab Golf, who built Glover's original putter.

966
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 22: That is my number one objective is to help people

967
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 22: play better. That doesn't matter who it is. If I

968
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 22: can help someone put better, I've done my job. Like

969
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 22: that's what I feel like my job is. All I

970
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 22: want to do is help people put better. And even

971
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 22: if that's not even in our product, Like if I can,

972
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 22: if I can go out to the tour, a tour event,

973
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 22: and you know I will, we will be will be

974
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 22: messed around with a bunch of different putters and then

975
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 22: there's I mentioned something that they notice and they start

976
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 22: feeling something different and they start rolling in all parts.

977
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 22: Like that's all I can ask for. If you use

978
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 22: my part of that's just a bonus, but it is cool.

979
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 22: Like I worked in the customer service team for my

980
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 22: first year with the company, and the amount of emails

981
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 22: we used to get, even back when we're small, like

982
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 22: of you guys have changed my golfing career, like golf life,

983
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 22: like I now love I hate a dreaded getting on

984
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 22: the greens and now that's my favorite part of the game.

985
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 22: And like just getting those emails, because there was a

986
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 22: bunch a lot of times that we were we were

987
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 22: a small company, were bugged down. We didn't have enough

988
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 22: people to do all of the jobs, and sometimes it

989
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 22: was pretty overwhelming. But then you'd get, you know, once

990
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 22: a week, twice a week, you'd get these emails from

991
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 22: guys that would just make all of it okay. It

992
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 22: just be like, all right, this is this is why

993
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:23,919
Speaker 22: we put in the hard work, and this is why

994
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 22: we work so hard, is to help these guys and

995
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 22: make people enjoy golf more.

996
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 6: Stuart Smith, an accomplished pro from Reno, an early adopter

997
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 6: of lie angle and balance, who we heard from in

998
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 6: episode two.

999
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 18: You can only applaud Lucas Glover. I mean, eventually, I

1000
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 18: think what I've heard. We hear many definitions of the yips,

1001
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 18: and basically it comes down to where you're expecting, you're

1002
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 18: mechanically you're not able to meet your expectations, so it

1003
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 18: creates an anxiety and once you're in that situation, it just.

1004
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 13: It just kicks in.

1005
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 18: So for him to overcome that and probably not even

1006
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 18: fully yet, we still know that he's liable to miss

1007
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 18: from eighteen inches. Still always such a great bass striker,

1008
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 18: but he has something that he believes in. Now he's

1009
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 18: been able to maybe wrestle that demon away from himself

1010
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 18: to where he can literally step in and keep a

1011
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 18: clear mind and roll it like he knows that he

1012
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 18: that he can.

1013
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 16: We all believe we can.

1014
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 18: I mean I suffered with the Yipps as well, where

1015
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 18: I would have never went to anchor and anchoring the

1016
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 18: putter still probably putting mediocre at best, maybe there, but

1017
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 18: still it's just that it's that one little thing that

1018
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 18: has helped him overcome and maybe that has helped him

1019
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 18: either mechanically to now meet his expectations better when he's

1020
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 18: putting in an event or has pressure on him, and

1021
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 18: he's able now to perform right without anxiety. That's the

1022
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 18: whole deal. You perform without anxiety, and the lab Hutter

1023
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 18: will l A B. Hudder will help you overcome some

1024
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 18: of those demons. I'm a big believer in.

1025
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 9: That if you talk to Bill or send him a

1026
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 9: text or any any interaction of congratulations or kind of

1027
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 9: thoughts on feeling like you're the company and the technology

1028
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 9: and everything that you've seen and used and believed in

1029
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 9: for so long has been validated at this point Oh.

1030
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean Bill and I talked pretty regularly, so

1031
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 18: he's still you know, he I never know when he

1032
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 18: is coming in town, but he's always asked me to

1033
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 18: play golf. We we usually always go out and play.

1034
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 18: Funny enough, we'll use our La B putters, but we'll

1035
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 18: go out and use some old forged irons and some

1036
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 18: Persimmon clubs, and he loves to play these hickory sticks.

1037
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 18: So usually I'll take my per Simmons and my sixties

1038
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 18: irons out and he'll take his hick resticks and we

1039
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 18: just go out and we kind of have a blast,

1040
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 18: but the La B putter stays in the bag.

1041
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 6: And once again we'll end this episode with the man

1042
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 6: and who started it all, Bill Pressey, who as a

1043
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 6: kid in mcwan, Wisconsin, in a basement tinkering with clubs.

1044
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 6: His grandfather once told him there are four ways to

1045
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 6: make money. You can win it, marry it, sell it,

1046
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 6: or invent it. As we learned in episode two, Pressey

1047
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 6: went from living and working out of his car to

1048
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 6: inventing the revealer and the technology behind lie angle and balance,

1049
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 6: and he did it in his garage.

1050
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:36,439
Speaker 9: What has been the uptick in business? Can you quantify

1051
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 9: for me the difference between where you were in June

1052
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 9: to where you are in August, now that Lucas has

1053
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 9: gone back to back.

1054
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 23: Yeah, I suppose it's a dicey question. But the next

1055
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 23: day broomstick sales for pass shortcutter sales. That's pretty big.

1056
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 23: That's a big that's a big big. I don't know

1057
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 23: if it's still I haven't seen the recent sales reports.

1058
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 23: But just like when Jack won with the response, the

1059
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 23: same things happened the LAB. There's no I can't put

1060
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 23: numbers out there, but it's off the hook, and I

1061
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 23: feel bad for all all of our workers and the

1062
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 23: builders are just double time over time, expanding, hiring, training,

1063
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 23: to scale up to keep this demand. Thank god we

1064
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 23: didn't get a tour win earlier. Thank god, because I

1065
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 23: wouldn't have been able to capitalize LAB, we wouldn't have

1066
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 23: been able to keep up. If this is what happens

1067
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 23: when you win a tournament, thank god it didn't happen earlier.

1068
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 23: I mean, it would have been cool, but yeah, that's

1069
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 23: the business sense of it. The dangerous thing about business

1070
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 23: is you can sell so much you'll put you out

1071
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 23: of business. And there's so sort of grow and sustain

1072
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 23: growth is uh, you have to be scaled to take

1073
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 23: advantage when you when the time does come, and you

1074
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 23: don't want that time to come too soon.

1075
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 2: You know.

1076
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 9: Do you get the sense that they're within this story?

1077
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 9: There is there is a sense of hope and uh

1078
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 9: and and inspiration that people can garner from your story,

1079
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 9: you know, Uh, Lucas's story.

1080
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:32,959
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, Like.

1081
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 9: Kelly's story, there is something here beyond. There's something at

1082
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 9: work far beyond like a putter.

1083
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 23: Yeah, there's.

1084
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 16: I think it comes from within.

1085
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Speaker 23: I mean, you're doing your theme right, and you've been

1086
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 23: with some pretty big companies before, and you know, there's

1087
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 23: something that drives us to do this, and whether it's

1088
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 23: resetting our own expectations for what we want in life.

1089
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 23: And I had always had a desire to contribute to

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00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 23: the golf, the history of golf. And I was always

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00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 23: a very skilled, you know, persuemon club repairman and refinisher,

1092
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Speaker 23: and I worked, you know, I learned the old old

1093
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 23: clubs and the whole trade. And I always felt that

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00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 23: I had a calling. And I told this to my

1095
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 23: friends in high school. I'm fifty almost fifty four, and

1096
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 23: I told him I'm going to change the golf industry.

1097
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 23: Didn't know how. I didn't know, but I knew way

1098
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 23: back then that I was going to have an impact,

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Speaker 23: But I don't know.

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Speaker 16: It wasn't.

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00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 23: Consciously done or anything like that. It's just it's it's

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00:59:53,960 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 23: a drive from within to do something a dream and

1103
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 23: to you know, get out from under the machine. And uh,

1104
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 23: you know, when you when you wake up in the morning,

1105
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 23: the scariest thing is is knowing that you can do

1106
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 23: what you want to do, but also knowing that you

1107
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 23: gotta do what you got to do, because if you

1108
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 23: have the ability not to do that, nobody's gonna yell

1109
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 23: at you. And you have to make that conscious decision

1110
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 23: to work harder and sacrifice everything for years to achieve something.

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01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:37,439
Speaker 2: That you want.

1112
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 23: And I think along, I know my goalposts have moved

1113
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 23: over the years. When I started off, my expectations are

1114
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 23: far lower than where we're at now. Ah for sure.

1115
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 23: I mean even in the director forced days, it was

1116
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 23: just to make a little putter company so I I

1117
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 23: could stop teaching full time at Golf Tech and raise

1118
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 23: my kid because I was a single parent and so

1119
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 23: you only have so much time in the day to

1120
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 23: cook clean, you know, get the kid to school and

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01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 23: do all this stuff. And so when you're working forty

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01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 23: to fifty hours a week to pay the mortgage and

1123
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 23: do all that stuff, I decided right then and there

1124
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 23: that I wanted a different life than to work for somebody.

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01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 23: And golf Tech was a great organization. I learned so

1126
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 23: much from golf Tech, but the reality was it wasn't mine,

1127
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 23: and I wanted something that was mine.

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Speaker 14: And when I.

1129
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 23: Found the opportunity to expose the bullshit of face balance

1130
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,439
Speaker 23: and toe hang marketing being a golf pro, I saw

1131
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,439
Speaker 23: that immediately, and I'm like, oh, I'm gonna watch this thing.

1132
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 23: I'm going to ride this I'm going to ride this

1133
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 23: pony and this revealer into the sunset. And you know,

1134
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 23: you got to go through a lot of hills and

1135
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 23: valleys to get to that sunset. It's a hell of

1136
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 23: a ride.

1137
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 9: It's sometimes the best story is your own story. And

1138
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 9: I gotta feel like, I'm not sure you're ever gonna

1139
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 9: stumble upon a better story than your own story.

1140
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 23: It's been a long ride, you know, I overcame a lot.

1141
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 23: It's hard to talk about.

1142
01:02:47,760 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 3: Put another long fire. Nobody here getting tired settle down,

1143
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 3: and sudden in the story here is about to begin,

1144
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 3: the circles starting to take its shape, seats filled and

1145
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 3: the tiredsome landsns escape, and everybody's got some glory, just

1146
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:35,439
Speaker 3: wait on to unfold. Everybody's got some story, Just wait

1147
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 3: un to be too. The place for.

1148
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 9: That is here.

1149
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 3: All those smiles and all those tears, Let them go.

1150
01:03:54,000 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 3: Put another log on the fire. Nobody hears getting tired,

1151
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 3: Settle down, and settle in the story hears about to begin.

1152
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 3: Tales were told of war and going, lovers lost in

1153
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 3: a lifetimes dreams our soul. Maybe you should stop and

1154
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 3: listen at the wisdom and me. Maybe you should pour

1155
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 3: your heart out.

1156
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 9: We ain't going the way.

1157
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 3: Find your mercy and the sound as the smoke gets

1158
01:04:52,920 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 3: pushed around in your soul. Put another log on the

1159
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 3: five Nobody hears getting tired, Settle down, and settle in

1160
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 3: the story hears about to begin. The story hears about

1161
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 3: to begin. The story hears about to begin,