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Speaker 1: Wherever you may be and however you may be listening.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for making us part of your day. You know,

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Speaker 1: jmck you said something about five minutes ago, as we

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Speaker 1: were sitting here at jotting some notes down the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the NFL is like the bottom of the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Now there are some bad teams. Two of them may

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Speaker 1: be in New York. It was done a good weekend

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Speaker 1: for New York sports, Yankees, Giants, Jets, even Buffalo upstate.

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Speaker 1: But we've been sitting waiting for Philadelphia if they keep winning,

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Speaker 1: and we keep waiting for Philadelphia to lose, and finally

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Speaker 1: they met their match.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, Denver Broncos, your guy Bonicks yep.

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Speaker 3: So in football and in.

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Speaker 1: Life, drip drip drip, like people don't wake up and

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Speaker 1: just decide, let's get a divorce. There were signs companies

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Speaker 1: don't go from great quarterly earnings too, we're bankrupt. There

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Speaker 1: are signs, warning signs, red flags, arguments. Philadelphia has been

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Speaker 1: a leaky faucet for five weeks. We've been talking about this.

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Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley, his production's been cut in half. The Lions

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Speaker 1: have two running backs that are more productive than Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 1: They labor to get the ball to Aj Brown, an

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Speaker 1: elite wide receiver. The offensive line used to be the

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Speaker 1: best in the sport. Middle of the pack doesn't even

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Speaker 1: look close to Detroit's now. So I've been preaching this

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Speaker 1: for three years. Nick Seriani is not a scheme guy, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so he is very offensive coordin dependent, all right, So

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Speaker 1: when he has a great coordinator, he gets the Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: He hired Brian Johnson, didn't work circle the drain. He

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Speaker 1: missed on a coordinator. Hired somebody in the building that

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Speaker 1: had never called plays before.

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Speaker 3: Could be a good coach, but right now.

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Speaker 1: At this moment in that coach's life, probably not the

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Speaker 1: right fit with this veteran offense. And it just it

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Speaker 1: took a half. But bow Knicks, who's still a kid.

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Speaker 1: Bo Nicks has played what twenty two starts in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna have bad halves, he's gonna have bad throws.

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Speaker 1: But in that second half, Sean Payton and this is

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Speaker 1: what he does, maybe as good as any coach in

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Speaker 1: this league. That's second half. Sean Payton extracted every yard

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Speaker 1: out of that offense. Two point conversions on the road,

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Speaker 1: noisy crowd, everybody involved, multiple receivers running the ball. Another

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Speaker 1: very good Denver draft. All these guys can play, and

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Speaker 1: bow Knicks, that dude is athletic, and he is fast.

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Speaker 1: He used to hold the ball a little long last year.

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Speaker 1: Bow Knicks is seeing it and let it rip. So

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Speaker 1: the better team, the better coach, and yes, the better quarterback.

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Speaker 1: By the second half of that game, we're on display.

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Speaker 1: And this is nothing against Nick Sara Janni, but he's

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Speaker 1: got a stacked roster. And don't even try to convince

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Speaker 1: me forty five yards rushing. The big plays are gone.

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Speaker 1: They were a good big play team. They're done. They're

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Speaker 1: Deavonte Smith, Saquon Barkley, Jalen Hurts. They're seven their middle

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Speaker 1: of the pack on big plays. Yards per play has tanked.

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Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley's getting touched a yard into the carry, not

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Speaker 1: two and a half. So this is not on the players.

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Speaker 1: The players were great last year. What did they do

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Speaker 1: all eat twinkies in the offseason? Give me a break.

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Speaker 1: It's a coordinator higher and that's okay. A lot of

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Speaker 1: coaches in this league are not Kyle Shanahan. Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night, goes out with backups everywhere and out coaches

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay. He's a scheme guy. Coordinators much less relevant

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Speaker 1: It's not the players, it's not the effort, it's not

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Speaker 1: the toughness. Coaching matters. We've seen this more and more

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Speaker 1: coordinating matters in this league. Second half of that game,

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton put on a clinic bo Nicks with twenty

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Speaker 4: I think that the guys have worked extremely hard in preparation.

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Speaker 4: I see the same hunger that was there prior to

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Speaker 4: us winning the Super Bowl. So I don't think it's

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Speaker 4: it's anything like that again, just this name of this

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Speaker 4: game is always going to come down to, you know, detail,

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Speaker 4: and you know, as far as us as coaches and players,

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Speaker 1: Usually my second story on a Monday isn't about a blowout.

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Speaker 1: But when Dak Prescott broke into this league, Zeke was

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Speaker 1: a great running back. The O line, Tyron Smith, Zach Martin,

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Speaker 1: it was the best O line in a decade in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Dak got a lot of credit and didn't

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Speaker 1: have to do a lot of heavy lifting.

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Speaker 3: He had a babysit Dez Bryant. That was about it.

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Speaker 1: But he was a little overrated now, Dak, this Dak

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Speaker 1: is not getting enough credit. They don't have a number

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Speaker 1: one receiver currently, the offensive line is still in a

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Speaker 1: rebuild mode. Running game okay, staff, fine, defense, last in

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Speaker 1: the league, Okay, Dak Prescott, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield. It's

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Speaker 1: like they've hit the ten thousand hour rule. Like they're

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Speaker 1: just I mean, they're all smart guys, but they have

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Speaker 1: reached another level of football IQ and Dak's gone from

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Speaker 1: a little over rated to now underappreciated. If I had

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Speaker 1: an MVP vote today, I would vote probably Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: one and Dak two. I would give Baker it because

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Speaker 1: he's won more games and he's won them late. But

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Speaker 1: also Baker Mayfield has the better general manager, the better

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Speaker 1: rookie receiver. I think the overall roster in Tampa is

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Speaker 1: much better than the Cowboys roster. But right now, what

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Speaker 1: you're seeing Dak Prescott do this is the best stack

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. First of all, I think he's lost

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Speaker 1: weight and gain strength. They're missing three offensive linemen. Ceedee

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Speaker 1: Lamb's a top five receiver. Doesn't have him running backs

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Speaker 1: kind of by committee. Okay, not special, And listen, Brian

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Speaker 1: Schottenheimer deserves a lot of credit. We don't think he's

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Speaker 1: Andy Reider Sean Payton. So again, I I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: MVP right now. And here's the other thing to remember

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Speaker 1: about Dak where he deserves a lot of credit. Everybody

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Speaker 1: said when des Bryant left, he was in trouble. Nope,

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Speaker 1: when Zeke left, he's in trouble. Tyron Smith left, Micah left,

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Speaker 1: the great Zach Martin, all these great players have left

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Speaker 1: in every time, as long as Dak Prescott is upright,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys win double digit games. I mean, that's let's

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Speaker 1: be honest. Sometimes it takes a long time. You got

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Speaker 1: to read to the end of the book.

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Speaker 1: I ever read a mystery or a murder mystery and

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Speaker 1: you kind of figure it out with a fourth or

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Speaker 1: fifth chapter, and then they're really great books. Like like

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're like, in chapter ten twelve, Dak,

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Speaker 1: you got to peel this onion.

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Speaker 3: You gotta peel this.

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Speaker 1: There was the a little over hype Dac with a

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Speaker 1: great o' line in a great run game, and Jerry

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Speaker 1: Jones at the time felt, you know, not quite as meddling.

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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, it's Mike McCarthy and

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Speaker 1: and Dak's actually putting up better numbers. And now McCarthy leaves.

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Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer, who nobody loved, Ceedee Lamb is hurt, Mike

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Speaker 1: is gone. It is a lot of c plus players

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Speaker 1: and they're still rebuilding this offensive line and Dak looks unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: He was getting envy chance in New York and he

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Speaker 1: was asked about it after.

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Speaker 5: I mean my hears work, so I heard it, but

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Speaker 5: I didn't hear it. To your answer, it's week five,

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Speaker 5: I don't care. I don't care if it was week seventeen.

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Speaker 5: I've told y'all what I want to win. The team

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Speaker 5: goals right now. The success and the continued success is

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Speaker 5: going to happen is just a beneficiaria of all the

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Speaker 5: guys in that locker room.

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Speaker 3: Again, Oas says the right thing.

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Speaker 1: He is a dropped pass against Philadelphia from being three

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Speaker 1: to one and one. Don't pay attention to the two

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Speaker 1: to two and one. He is playing next level. Remember

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Speaker 1: they tied green Bay, and I mean the way green

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Speaker 1: Bay was running the clock late in that game could

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Speaker 1: have won it. They had Philadelphia beat Ceedee Lamb at

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Speaker 1: his worst game as a pro. Three drops one, I

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Speaker 1: mean right in the bread basket, So you can't. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: the record doesn't belie the truth. Dak's planned out of

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Speaker 1: his mind, so is Baker, so is Darnold. It's these

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Speaker 1: old guys they got the ten thousand hours, but I

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Speaker 1: think I would vote Baker Mayfield MVP of the league today.

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Speaker 1: I think I would have right now Dak runner up

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Speaker 1: from you know, a little over hyped to is everybody

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Speaker 1: paying attention to what's happening here? Coaching staff, ownership, O line.

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Speaker 1: I mean, find me a guy in the league that's

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Speaker 1: working with a bunch of mid that's putting up those numbers.

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Speaker 1: Well it's the Jets. Well the Jets look pretty good

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Speaker 1: against the Steelers. The Jets didn't look that bad last week.

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Speaker 1: Whatever's happening. Dak goes on the road. It's one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite picks of the week. I mean that thing

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Speaker 1: on a clinic that is amazing. So j Mack, who

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Speaker 1: did you went five and one in your picks? I

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Speaker 1: had a winning week as well, So we know, taking

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Speaker 1: over a less talented team and rebuilding it, it's hard, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: to Aaron Glenn's great example, but it's not that hard,

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Speaker 1: just like anything in life, taking over a building, a business,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, for a therapist, fixing a rocky marriage,

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Speaker 1: it's hard, but it's not that hard. Competent people can

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Speaker 1: do it. How about New England. How about what Mike

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Speaker 1: Vrabel's doing and Drake May's doing.

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Speaker 2: Drake May looks amazing, incredible fourth quarter line.

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Speaker 1: York Jets had more high end players when Aaron Glenn

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Speaker 1: took him over than New England had. I don't and

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Speaker 1: a more experienced quarterback and justin fields. So again, same division.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it isn't hard, but you're seeing a

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Speaker 1: gap between Mike Rable and Aaron Glenn in a month.

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Speaker 3: It's not even.

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Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that. It's easy to beat up

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Speaker 1: on Buffalo. I don't think last night was about the

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Speaker 1: has a stinker. They fumbled it, it was ball security

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Speaker 1: was a mess. We'll talk about what's happening in New

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Speaker 1: an absolute clinic yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo does not lose at home. J Mack with the News.

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Speaker 6: This is the herd line News.

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Speaker 2: If you want to buy low stock Patriots, here's who

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Speaker 2: They're gonna win like eight or nine games before December.

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Speaker 3: So do you realize this is gonna be my fifth string?

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Speaker 1: My favorite bet every year is the what team will

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Speaker 2: The good news is if we could get the Ravens

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Speaker 2: They still got the Steelers twice. That's interesting. Now, let's

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Speaker 1: I mean, but when you watch the Colts, they gave

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Speaker 1: that game away against the Rams. They gave that thing away.

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Speaker 1: This Colts team's gonna win this division because I think

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Speaker 1: Kansas City beats Jacksonville tonight. This is not about the

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Speaker 1: Raiders being awful. It's Pete's first year. This is about

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Speaker 1: a GM who has built a really good roster and

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Speaker 1: they've been sitting there since the late Jim Rsey forced

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Speaker 1: Wins to leave.

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Speaker 3: They've been bailing water at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Well, Daniel Jones may not be an a, but with

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Speaker 1: Stichen he's pretty damn good.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting the Colts went and got Daniel Jones. Pete

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Speaker 2: Carroll wanted Gino Smith. Here's Pete Carroll after the loss.

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Speaker 3: I'm processing it poorly.

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Speaker 11: I'll tell you the truth, because I did expect to

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Speaker 11: win right out of the shoots. They I executed this

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Speaker 11: in the throwing and catching part of it, and we

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Speaker 11: weren't able to get off the field, and that's why

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Speaker 11: they sustained their drives.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see a lot of upside with this team, Colin,

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna round out herd line. Here was another

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Speaker 2: negative story, and that's Bill Belichick and North Carolina football.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you watch this Saturday all yet

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Speaker 2: out at Sports Day first.

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Speaker 3: Player of the game. Didn't Clemson go to the trucks?

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Speaker 11: There?

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Speaker 3: It is?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and you know, look at North Carolina

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Speaker 2: five yards trailing here. It was bad. Thirty eight to

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Speaker 2: ten beat down was never close. I'm pretty sure this

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Speaker 2: was thirty five to three for a while. Meanwhile, Clemson

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Speaker 2: is not even good Bill Belichick. His team has scored

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Speaker 2: a touchdown on four of twenty nine drives against Power

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Speaker 2: five conferences. That sound good. Here's Belichick after.

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Speaker 12: The l We just got to do a better job

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Speaker 12: of coaching. I had a better job of playing, and

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Speaker 12: I'll just eliminate the mistakes. They're they're fixable. I mean

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Speaker 12: that there's honestly not that many things that we can't

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Speaker 12: get right. But we got to do a better job

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Speaker 12: of it. And we can't give up plays like that

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Speaker 12: defensively at the beginning of the game. Obviously, it just

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Speaker 12: till the score. Yeah, it's too much. So get back

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Speaker 12: to work here tomorrow. And you know, I think if

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Speaker 12: I expect the players to rebound like they did last

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Speaker 12: week and have another good week here.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know, I watched some of this game and

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Speaker 1: I just go back to the last six drafts in

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Speaker 1: New England. Bill controlled it and could not draft and

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Speaker 1: clearly doesn't have a great eye for college personnel because

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Speaker 1: they just don't have any good players. It's just I mean, defensively,

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Speaker 1: Kate Klubnick had struggled all year. It was pitch and catch.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what his numbers were. Was he like

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Speaker 1: twenty four of twenty six. Very I mean it was

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Speaker 1: like practice. So I think college football to some degree

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Speaker 1: is a young man's game.

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Speaker 3: But if you are middle aged or older like Stay,

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Speaker 3: and you have to have great energy mac Brown before him.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, good, very good personality, very good energy, very

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Speaker 1: good recruiter. So as Saban Bill's not an engaging personality,

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Speaker 1: and he and Mike Lombardi they're Sunday guys. They're not

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Speaker 1: Saturday guys. So I don't think they have a feel

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Speaker 1: for it yet. That doesn't mean they couldn't turn it

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Speaker 1: around next year maybe, but this feels like arch Manning. Hey,

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Speaker 1: this was an exciting offseason story.

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Speaker 2: Everybody was bumped. And no, it's just a big.

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Speaker 1: Reason transfer portal seduces a lot of coaches. You think

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Speaker 1: you can solve a lot of your problems. You can't

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Speaker 1: bring fifty new guys to a football team and build

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Speaker 1: a culture. That's what I worried about. Remember I said

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Speaker 1: this about New England when Mike Brable came in. I said,

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Speaker 1: they spent so much money to get the NFL roster

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Speaker 1: of the Patriots just up to like NFL standards, There

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Speaker 1: were so much Remember how bad they were in the

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Speaker 1: first couple of weeks and I said, you got to

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Speaker 1: give me a break. New England start playing too many

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Speaker 1: new people. Well then it took up all week three,

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Speaker 1: Week four, Week five, everybody was banging on New England.

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Speaker 1: Well think about this. You're doing that with college guys.

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Speaker 1: So Belichick's got fifty new guys. You just can't do that.

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley still can't get his defense right. When you

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Speaker 1: live and breathe with a transfer portal in college, you

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Speaker 1: can't build a culture. You can build an offense if

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Speaker 1: you get a great quarterback, or you can have some

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Speaker 1: explosive plays, but they just don't have enough good players

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Speaker 1: and none of these guys have played together before.

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Speaker 3: Jaymck with the news.

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Speaker 6: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 6: herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: So it's one of these things in life that's never fair.

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Speaker 1: You know. They always say when men and women meet,

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Speaker 1: men take eight seconds, women take eight minutes, but they

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Speaker 1: decide first date. Yeah, I'm gonna hook up this. Personal

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Speaker 1: work and first impressions in pro sports are rough. Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold's twenty one he goes to the completely dysfunctional New

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Speaker 1: York Jets and then Baker Mayfield goes to completely functional Cleveland. Now,

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Speaker 1: Baker was much better than Sam, but it does get

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Speaker 1: embedded in your mind and you kind of hold it

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Speaker 1: against Sam well he's having another decent year, or you

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Speaker 1: look at Baker and you're like, oh, it'll implode.

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Speaker 3: He's cocky.

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Speaker 1: If you'd never watch Donald in New York and you'd

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Speaker 1: never watch Baker in Cleveland, and you just watched that

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Speaker 1: game yesterday, you would think you have Brady manning. Those

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Speaker 1: guys were unbelievable. Mayfield goes twenty nine to thirty three

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Speaker 1: three hundred and eighty yards. Donald goes twenty eight to

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Speaker 1: thirty four. They both have a passer rating at one

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five. It's one of the best offensive

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Speaker 1: quarterback games I've ever seen in my life. And Baker's

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Speaker 1: missing Mike Evans, he's missing Bucky Irving. Seattle's defense was

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Speaker 1: a little banged up. I mean, it's the NFL. You're

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Speaker 1: not going to be healthy. Baker was unbelievable. I'd give

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Speaker 1: him my MVP today. This is the best Baker's ever played.

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Speaker 1: That Seattle defense is it was banged out, but it's

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Speaker 1: a good defense. That's a tough place to play. But again,

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Speaker 1: Brady and Manning played over fifteen times. We went and

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Speaker 1: looked it up this morning. They never had a matchup

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Speaker 1: with this kind of offensive productivity. If you didn't get

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Speaker 1: this game in your local market and you got stuck

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Speaker 1: with the Cardinals and the Titans, the NFL owes you

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Speaker 1: an apology. That is one of the best quarterback games

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. The game had nine

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Speaker 1: touchdowns and ten incompletions, and Baker was amazing. Sam's a

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Speaker 1: little more athletic, Baker probably better just throwing strikes from

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Speaker 1: the pocket. And I both what I watched was two

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Speaker 1: great quarterbacks, two great GM slash rosters, two very competent

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Speaker 1: head coaches. I mean, and Baker was not playing with

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Speaker 1: a fully healthy team and Seattle wasn't playing with a

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Speaker 1: fully healthy defense.

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Speaker 3: But you know, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: Both these guys obviously take the coaching because Sam Donald's

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Speaker 1: biggest issue was really reckless and accuracy issues, and he

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Speaker 1: had a slow wind up. Donald gets rid of that

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Speaker 1: ball fast and he's really accurate. So four straight years

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Speaker 1: Donald's accurate see has improved. The other thing is they

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Speaker 1: both have a great young wide receiver that is growing

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Speaker 1: with them, so they didn't inherit. You know a lot

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Speaker 1: of egos. They went to good coaches, defensive coaches who

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Speaker 1: let them be their own personality. But here was Baker

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Speaker 1: after a scintillating win.

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Speaker 3: We're built different.

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Speaker 13: That's just the way the locker room's wired, the way

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Speaker 13: they built this roster, and I love it.

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Speaker 3: It's a group that plays with an edge.

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Speaker 9: And I always say we're always in the fight, but

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Speaker 9: I love this team and I love the way they fight.

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Speaker 1: And both Baker and Sam can have their reckless moments,

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Speaker 1: but we looked it up. Manning and Brady played seventeen times.

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Speaker 1: They never had a single game. We're both through for

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Speaker 1: over three hundred, so that they need neither ever played together.

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Speaker 1: And both teams scored over thirty five points, so that

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Speaker 1: shootout was rare. But again, if you go back to

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Speaker 1: your first impression, Donald's twenty one, he goes to New York,

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Speaker 1: the Jets or the Jets, they could make anybody look bad.

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Speaker 1: Think about how many people in this league today are

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Speaker 1: flourishing that are former Jets. The coach of the Bucks,

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Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, the quarterback for the Seahawks, Sam Darnold, Davonte Adams.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's remarkable how many former Jets. But again,

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Speaker 1: when you're in twenty twenty one, twenty two, twenty three

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Speaker 1: and you walk into a dysfunctional business, you're not established.

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Speaker 1: It'd be one thing if you're thirty seven. Donald and

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Speaker 1: Baker now could go to a dysfunctional team, right, and

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Speaker 1: they'd have the buy in from players. But if these

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Speaker 1: two teams, Seattle and Tampa met in the NFC Championship,

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Speaker 1: I would not be shocked. That's what I watched, and

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Speaker 1: these teams weren't healthy playmakers, quarterbacks, coaching speed. That's one

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Speaker 1: of the best games I've ever seen.

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Speaker 6: Honestly, be sure to catch live editions of the Herd

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Speaker 6: weekdays and noon Easter not a em Pacific.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow, it's a pair of game threes in the Alds,

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Speaker 2: starting with the Mariners taking on the Tigers. Coverage begins

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Speaker 2: at three pm Eastern, Then in prime time, the Blue

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Speaker 2: Jays head to the Bronx to take on Judge and

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Speaker 2: the Yankees at eight Eastern, all on FS one.

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Speaker 3: Mariners even the series. Keep your eye on the Mariners.

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Speaker 1: So I have this theory that everything now because of

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Speaker 1: TikTok and Instagram, is performative. Nobody can just have lunch

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Speaker 1: or a conversation with a friend, and you can't go out,

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Speaker 1: or you've got to take pictures of your food, and

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Speaker 1: you've got to show where you're at. People can't just live.

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Speaker 1: And I think this trend among young people, this need

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Speaker 1: to constantly be performing and be cool. And I believe

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Speaker 1: this is happening in the NFL because I've now seen

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Speaker 1: it like three four times and it's disturbing. Yesterday, Arizona

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Speaker 1: running back Amari Demarcado breaks free. Man. It's a bad trend.

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Speaker 1: Trying to be cool, drops the ball at the gold line.

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Speaker 1: This would have sealed the win. They would have gone

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Speaker 1: up twenty eight to six. They would have sealed the win.

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Speaker 1: Every yard counts in the NFL. Every play counts in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Do you know how hard your teammates work,

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Speaker 1: how hard it is to be an offensive lineman to

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Speaker 1: create that whole How hard football practice is? I mean

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Speaker 1: this is that's literally like showing up late to work

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Speaker 1: the week your company's having layoffs.

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Speaker 3: Hello self awareness.

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Speaker 1: By the way, last week, Indianapolis wide receiver another show

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Speaker 1: voter Ady Mitchell does the exact same thing. This could

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Speaker 1: have sealed the game for the Colts, and this guy

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Speaker 1: never scored a touchdown in the NFL, still has it.

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Speaker 1: What in God's name are you thinking? Stop show voting,

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Speaker 1: get into the end zone. By the way, this week

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Speaker 1: he played six snaps. Thankfully, I'd cut him. I'd have

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Speaker 1: no problem cutting guys that do this. Losing jobs in

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Speaker 1: the NFL because of this. Coaches, coordinators, teammates. You know

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Speaker 1: how hard it is to score in a long touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Run in the NFL. There are very few of them.

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia now can't run the football and they got Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowlers everywhere. It's hard, it's so selfish and so disrespectful.

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Speaker 1: The Jets had a guy that did this last year,

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Speaker 1: Malachi Corley, shocking, he's never scored a touchdown. Most of

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Speaker 1: the great players get it, but you have to be

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Speaker 1: so self absorbed, lacking in total self awareness. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Arizona was missing two starters at running back. Bro,

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Speaker 1: it's your moment, it is your moment. Remember this last

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Speaker 1: year with the Jets. A guy that's never scored a touchdown, performative,

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Speaker 1: trying to be cool. I mean, this is the NFL goldgen.

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Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers this year they're every single play matters.

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Speaker 1: I mean to do that to your teammates. I mean,

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Speaker 1: baseball practice as a kid was fun. Basketball practice is

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Speaker 1: a good sweat. Soccer practice. Football practice it's often in

646
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Speaker 1: bad weather pads. It's cold, it's hard, you're getting hit.

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Speaker 1: Football practice is hard. You get me that selfish of

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Speaker 1: a human being. That's selfish of a teammate to all

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Speaker 1: your brothers who worked so hard. You know how rarely

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Speaker 1: you get a fifty yard touchdown run in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: This thing was going to be a seventy yard touchdown run.

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Speaker 1: Those just don't happen. The good teams don't get those.

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Speaker 1: The bad teams never get them. All that work and

654
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Speaker 1: you're going performative. Don't tell me you couldn't see the line.

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Speaker 1: Not that hard to figure out. Here was the coach after.

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Speaker 2: As a coach, what do you say to him? That's

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Speaker 2: never about one play. We have coaching points that I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to tell you. Guys, now, is this the

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Speaker 2: worst thing you've felt after all lost year? I don't

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Speaker 2: know that. Boy, you think, Bob, We've had some bad ones.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, on the sideline, that coach was furious. I don't

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Speaker 3: blame him.

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Speaker 1: I mean that coach was absolutely I'm surprised so many

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Speaker 1: players were consoling him. That is an l I mean

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Speaker 1: it is, man, you got to be a selfish coworker.

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Speaker 1: You really got to be selfish to do that. A

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Speaker 1: d Mitchell bro You've never been in the end zone.

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Speaker 1: The culture, good team. You're on the road, you're facing

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Speaker 1: the Rams. Daniel Jones is playing his butt off. Your

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Speaker 1: offensive line's given great production, and you're trying to perform.

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Speaker 1: I sort of got I think this is TikTok and

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Speaker 1: Instagram and nobody can just have lunch. Nobody can just

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Speaker 1: have lunch without taking a picture of it. Can we

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Speaker 1: just live a little bit not have to constantly show off?

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Speaker 1: Speaking the show off, bo Nick's got to In the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, fourth quarter against the Eagles on the road,

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Speaker 1: bo Nix was nine of ten, three or three on

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Speaker 1: scoring drives, a one on one on two point conversion.

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Speaker 1: A lot of you guys are rooting against bon Nicks.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna work. I mean he's going against Vic Fangio's

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Speaker 1: defense and that roster. He's really been able to speed

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Speaker 1: up his delivery. He held onto the ball last year

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Speaker 1: too long. He plays super fast right now. He is,

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Speaker 1: and he's also really athletic. I'd make an argument you

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Speaker 1: could run him more. He is really athletic. And here's

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Speaker 1: the thing that you see. I say this all the time.

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Speaker 1: Watch a game and watch the play calling. A coach

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Speaker 1: will tell you what they think about a player by

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Speaker 1: the plays they call. Okay, there's no handholding here right now.

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Speaker 1: Bo Nicks leads the NFL in pass attempts yep, more

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Speaker 1: than any other quarterback. That is trust. There's no handholding

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Speaker 1: going on in Denver So and the other thing. One

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Speaker 1: of the great things about Brady is Brady didn't take sacks.

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Speaker 1: Brady had no problem throwing it way, dirting it, getting

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Speaker 1: rid of it. Bow Nick doesn't get sacked, and they

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Speaker 1: faced some real defenses. He's been sacked five times all year. Now,

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Speaker 1: you know how last year we said a lot of

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Speaker 1: times Caleb Williams was getting sacked and it wasn't always

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Speaker 1: the offensive line's fault. Matt Hasselbeck said that a lot

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Speaker 1: of people said that, well, he's only sacked five times,

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Speaker 1: that's not all the offensive line getting credit.

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Speaker 3: He gets rid of it fast.

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Speaker 1: And again, he's only played twenty two games, so it's

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have Drake May had a horrible interception against

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. Bad plays are going to happen. But when

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Speaker 1: I watch him and his ability to get rid of

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Speaker 1: the ball get first downs with his legs, I mean

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Speaker 1: intellectually physically at ball's out. Here's Sean Payton. After the

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Speaker 1: road win and the decision to go for too.

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Speaker 13: We felt situationally with time left on the clock. You know,

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Speaker 13: we came here to win a game, and I had

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Speaker 13: two or three calls that I loved. The executed it

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Speaker 13: was perfect, but we felt, I think, there's seventy seven

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Speaker 13: and a half minutes, let's do that, Let's keep let's

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Speaker 13: keep being aggressive.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, the play was designed perfectly. It's

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Speaker 1: interesting about going for two because a lot of times

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Speaker 1: I think coaches tend to be math professors. Before they

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Speaker 1: need to, they start playing to the numbers. That was

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Speaker 1: one of the rare instances. I'm like, listen, Philly doesn't lose.

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Speaker 1: They haven't loss since win December something last year. You're

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Speaker 1: on the road on Philly. When you're on the road,

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Speaker 1: you go for it. If you're on the road and

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Speaker 1: you're an underdog, that's a go for it moment. If

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Speaker 1: you're at home and a heavy favorite, you may just think, listen,

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Speaker 1: we want to get to overtime. We got the better players.

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Speaker 1: We're at home, our players are comfortable. Let's get to overtime.

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Speaker 1: I got the better roster. But if you believe we're

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Speaker 1: on the road, we're an underdog. We were getting shell

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Speaker 1: that half. We have all the momentum. I like to call,

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Speaker 1: and again, I think it's situational. I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: an always do it. But again, you have momentum. Bonix

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Speaker 1: is hot. The Eagles are a little backpedaling. It's it's

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Speaker 1: you're on the road. You're an underdog. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Kansas City just be You gotta think about all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Kansas City faces Jacksonville tonight. Kansas City just crushed Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: Here comes Kansas City. My take is, we're not gonna

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Speaker 1: play it safe against the Chiefs. We're not gonna play

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Speaker 1: it safe against the top teams in the NFL. Let's

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Speaker 1: go for it. So that was the rare instance. Usually

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, dude, just tie it up, don't be.

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Speaker 3: A math professor. I don't know J Mack how you feel.

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Speaker 1: But that was one of those, like, dude, when you

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Speaker 1: get Philadelphia chance to step on the neck a little bit,

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Speaker 1: I think you go for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree, because Philly has this weird thing.

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Speaker 2: They don't, you know, play to the whistle. Remember they

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Speaker 2: had Tampa down twenty four to six and just stop

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Speaker 2: playing up seventeen three and the fourth kind of stopped playing.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you on the Eagles, Colin. We know

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Speaker 2: they're good. They were number one and hurt hierarchy. So

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Speaker 2: because Cedee lamb drops passes, they beat them. Travis Kelce

753
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Speaker 2: bobbles the inners. There's no great team in this league.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how good they.

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Speaker 1: There are great units, there are teams that have great games.

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Speaker 1: There are no great teams in this league. There are

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Speaker 1: awful teams, two of them may be in New York,

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Speaker 1: but there are no great teams in the NFL. Colin Wright, Colin,

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Speaker 1: wrong hour to first one flew by.

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Speaker 3: It's the hurt