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Speaker 1: starts now. Hello, Hello, happy week nine people. My name
Speaker 1: is Rachel Banana. That is Greg rosen Fall. Since they
Speaker 1: Freeland and Patrick clay Bann are you happy to stay?
Speaker 1: Are happy tried to trade me this? I'm like cam
Speaker 1: Akers showing up to work this week. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: be professional and we're all like, no, we didn't. We
Speaker 1: never wanted you to leave everything's all good here. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're like halfway through the season. It pains me to
Speaker 1: say that I am sad that it is week nine.
Speaker 1: Time is moving too quickly. We're all having a great time.
Speaker 1: I don't want this to end, and I hate to
Speaker 1: bring this up. I hate to bring up the past,
Speaker 1: but we have to. Greg. You couldn't help yourself. You
Speaker 1: just couldn't. We've got the pictures. Sometimes it pays to
Speaker 1: stick with your well no, I mean, I what are
Speaker 1: you talking about. I uh, I've informally appealing this pick.
Speaker 1: I made the correct picks. Yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys saw the game. The Panthers outgained the Falcons
Speaker 1: by about a hundred and fifty yards. They had the
Speaker 1: best play of the year with d J. Moore and
Speaker 1: p J. Walker. They set up two game winning short
Speaker 1: kicks and I'm going to take that victor. Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1: Shoes and hand grenades, Greg, I love that you. Basically
Speaker 1: every single week is just a different variation gray jacket.
Speaker 1: It's a nice okay. The last time Patrick Mahomes faced
Speaker 1: the Titans, it didn't go so hot. Three points, that's it,
Speaker 1: the fewest he has ever had as a starting quarterback,
Speaker 1: no touchdowns, throw a pick? Who is this? He's never
Speaker 1: beaten the Titans in the regular season? Greggy there and
Speaker 1: a half point favorite. And it does this change? Alright,
Speaker 1: Roquell coming at me strong early in this show, I
Speaker 1: don't think it will change. I think the Chiefs are
Speaker 1: gonna win this game by quite a bit. I believe
Speaker 1: that the past protection for the Chiefs is better than
Speaker 1: it's ever been. I look deep into Cynthia's model. She
Speaker 1: let me get in there this week, and it said
Speaker 1: that the best past protection group in the league, according
Speaker 1: to her win shares, which is amazing. And it makes
Speaker 1: sense when you watch that last game they had against
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes got touched three times, Like, what is more
Speaker 1: dangerous than Patrick Mahomes with all the time in the world.
Speaker 1: At one point in that game, they six touchdowns in
Speaker 1: seven possessions and on the seventh theat a touchdown overturned
Speaker 1: by penalty. It is getting outrageous. So I know the
Speaker 1: Titans are good up front, but they're gonna protect Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes because they do every week. I'm right in line
Speaker 1: with you. I think you have what eleven points different?
Speaker 1: I've got more than I've got thirteen points different I
Speaker 1: have thirty one to eighteen in this matchup in favor
Speaker 1: of the Kansas City Chiefs. I want to point out
Speaker 1: that the secondary for the Titans, they're allowing the highest
Speaker 1: completion percentage sixty five point to the most yards on
Speaker 1: an average basis, and a very very high passer rating
Speaker 1: on deep passes. This is not a good matchup when
Speaker 1: it comes to stopping Patrick Mahomes. So not only is
Speaker 1: the pressure not going to be super effective, but also
Speaker 1: on the back end, those deep passes have a really
Speaker 1: good chance of being complete. It's not a great way
Speaker 1: to win, especially because if the Titans were to win,
Speaker 1: they have to use ball control and Zerick Henry, but
Speaker 1: then you can score quickly, So it's it's it's advantage
Speaker 1: Chiefs for me. I hear ball control and Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1: I think the Tennessee to are fine playing that game,
Speaker 1: and I think the acquisition of Darius Tony is a
Speaker 1: little bit of an admission. Uh, the plan coming into
Speaker 1: the season wasn't exactly playing out as the Chiefs needed.
Speaker 1: Cynthia mentioned deep passing opportunity. I think Darius Tony is
Speaker 1: gonna free up some things for that but I would
Speaker 1: like to talk about Jeffrey Simmons because somebody needs to
Speaker 1: talk about Jeffrey Simmons as an interior defensive lineman. He's
Speaker 1: got five and a half sacks, contending for the league lead.
Speaker 1: He's a couple of way playing on the interior. He's
Speaker 1: just so good and that creates some problems. I see
Speaker 1: a Chiefs win, I agree, but eleven points, thirteen points,
Speaker 1: twelve and a half points too much for me. Kansas
Speaker 1: City wins seventeen and a grindout game that has thirty
Speaker 1: six Derrick Henry Carrious because what else are they gonna be? Wow?
Speaker 1: Wow wow Wow. Alright, Queen sweet Memler, first Memler of
Speaker 1: the show. I'm going Casey as well by a big
Speaker 1: win thirty to twenty. I know Halloween has passed, but
Speaker 1: I want to tell you what is terrifying. Okay, think
Speaker 1: of Andy Reid. You know he's got the smile, he's
Speaker 1: got the cute cheeks. He is absolutely lethal when he
Speaker 1: gets just a little it more time to prepare. He
Speaker 1: is twenty in three in the regular season after a
Speaker 1: by including a perfect four and oh with Mahomes as
Speaker 1: his starting QB. The Titans offenses in last place, and
Speaker 1: then you got the Chiefs off into his averaging thirty
Speaker 1: points a game that is insane. I think that they're
Speaker 1: absolutely going to outplay, outwit, out, terrify the Titans. I
Speaker 1: just like that when you think and you read, the
Speaker 1: first thing that comes to mind, cute cheeks. The world
Speaker 1: cheeks come on. He's like a cute grandpa. Let Andy Reid. Okay,
Speaker 1: the last time we saw Tom Brady go up against
Speaker 1: the Rams, we thought it was the last time we
Speaker 1: would see him on a football field. The Rams one
Speaker 1: thirty seven in the NFC Divisional round. The Bucks made
Speaker 1: a late comeback but came up short. Of course, Brady retired,
Speaker 1: then unretired. Now probably wishes he'd stayed retired. It's time
Speaker 1: for the Drive to Excellence presented by Marcedes ben Sin.
Speaker 1: Bucks are favored by three at home. Loser of this
Speaker 1: game is in a very dark place. Would be like
Speaker 1: on Sunday. I think that the Bucks take this one.
Speaker 1: They avenge that loss. I have twenty four to twenty
Speaker 1: as my final score. I want to talk about just
Speaker 1: how good We talk about the Bucks defense, and there
Speaker 1: are some holes, but they're good at generating pressure. The
Speaker 1: third most and Matthew Stafford has been under tremendous pressure
Speaker 1: this season. On third one third of his dropbacks, he's
Speaker 1: been under pressure compared to just twenty two last season.
Speaker 1: That's a significant increase. And not only has it been
Speaker 1: like more pressure, but it's also been more direct pressure meeting.
Speaker 1: He's been on the ground after it. Not just you know,
Speaker 1: a guy comes comes at his face and he's not
Speaker 1: really you know, getting hit. He's taking actual body blows
Speaker 1: more often this season. I like the bucks in this
Speaker 1: game too. I have the exact same you. You know,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be right out of the computer grid. I'm
Speaker 1: stuck inside the model when you are these two teams
Speaker 1: you mentioned, Matthew Stafford, I wish and modeling these great jackets.
Speaker 1: I'm still recovering. It wasn't. It wasn't okay. You know,
Speaker 1: you you concentrate on what you know, what works for you,
Speaker 1: okay exactly, and what works for Tom Brady, by the way,
Speaker 1: this year is like throwing the ball down the field. Well,
Speaker 1: look at some of the best throws that he's made
Speaker 1: this year. The difference between these two teams is it's
Speaker 1: hard to put together a Matthew Stafford highlight reel. Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, has three or four throws every
Speaker 1: week that makes you think, Wow, he's still got it.
Speaker 1: It's good that he came back. He's actually second in
Speaker 1: the league. Only Josh Allen has more big time throws
Speaker 1: this season than Tom Brady, according to pf F. So,
Speaker 1: when I look at the Bucks, I see a bad team.
Speaker 1: That a good team. Rather, that's like making mistakes and
Speaker 1: playing like a bad team. Sometimes when I look at
Speaker 1: the Rams, I just see a bad team. And so
Speaker 1: I think the Bucks are gonna tell your daughter. Your daughter,
Speaker 1: she's been asking all week what I'm gonna do, and
Speaker 1: I've been telling I'm kicking against the Ram. She says,
Speaker 1: when you pick against the Rams, they always lose. And
Speaker 1: I said, well, that's their fault, not mine. Is daddy's choice. Okay,
Speaker 1: hard lessons for Elis. I agree with you, guys, uh
Speaker 1: in terms of the Buccaneers winning this game. I also
Speaker 1: agree that we have two defenses that are struggling. Cynthia
Speaker 1: mentioned the Buccaneers ability to get the quarterback on the ground.
Speaker 1: The problem is with Shaq Barrett's injuries that their ability
Speaker 1: to generate pressure severely diminished and honestly good news for
Speaker 1: both teams. Neither one of these defenses can generate pressure,
Speaker 1: so both Matthew Stafford and Tom Brady will have a
Speaker 1: chance to sit back there and pick some defenses apart.
Speaker 1: But it's just there's just been too much time. In
Speaker 1: terms of pressure percentage, both of these teams are in
Speaker 1: the bottom five of the entire NFL, and consider what
Speaker 1: they've done in recent years. What that means. Teams featuring
Speaker 1: a guy who's going to the Pro Football Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame and Aaron Donald and this Bucks team that won
Speaker 1: that Super Bowl that was so close a year ago
Speaker 1: cannot generate pressure. That leads to a lot of this
Speaker 1: just guys running down the field wide open quarterbacks being able, Like, look,
Speaker 1: Jimmy g is making plays, but what are we doing?
Speaker 1: What's going on? Jimmy slander on this more points than
Speaker 1: we expect. I am going Bucks as well. I feel
Speaker 1: like I've been back and forth on this game all
Speaker 1: week long because I just don't know who who to trust.
Speaker 1: And then it came out we were talking about this
Speaker 1: in in the pre show meeting. Sean mcveighs. Maybe some
Speaker 1: whispers of like how he wants to retire when his
Speaker 1: core guys are are going to be gone. And you
Speaker 1: know there's like a million other players on this team,
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh that are going to be probably pretty disappointed
Speaker 1: to hear what you say. But then I look at
Speaker 1: the two quarterbacks. Okay, who can take us home in
Speaker 1: this game? Brady is about two eclipse like a hundred
Speaker 1: thousand passing yards. That's insane, right, that's the numbers for you.
Speaker 1: What are we giggling about. I'm just saying that. Still,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady him, we almost have the exactly that's making
Speaker 1: my brain. I know, I feel so bad to my family.
Speaker 1: But I think if ever we're gonna get a mime
Speaker 1: alert wrong here, it's with the exact same score. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this might be the one. Okay, let's talk for this
Speaker 1: other game. Ravens Saints spoiler alert. All of our scores
Speaker 1: are very close. Sin. Who do you like on Monday Night? Faball?
Speaker 1: I have the Ravens by two points to five to
Speaker 1: twenty three. Roquan Smith, Welcome to the Ravens. What a
Speaker 1: great edition. This off ball linebacker is going to make
Speaker 1: it very difficult for Alvin Kamara to have the kind
Speaker 1: of gains that we've seen him have and obviously it
Speaker 1: started off a little slow, but he had picked it
Speaker 1: up in recent weeks. It's gonna be much more difficult
Speaker 1: from that standpoint. Also, when I'm looking at this matchup
Speaker 1: and I'm seeing kind of what's going on on Monday,
Speaker 1: you know, no Michael Thomas means it's going to be
Speaker 1: a lot more alliance on maybe shorter passes. So I
Speaker 1: just think Rokean Smith makes a big difference. I think
Speaker 1: he does too, but I don't think it's enough. I
Speaker 1: got the Saints winning this game. It's similar score, but
Speaker 1: it's twenty five to twenty four, and I've been anxious
Speaker 1: to reveal, like whether it's actually here. But it's here, people.
Speaker 1: The Dalton aissance is here. That Dalton renaissance is happening.
Speaker 1: He's playing good football, he's making good decisions. And yes
Speaker 1: he had those pick sixes on hairs. Take care what
Speaker 1: happened and there Gino. Of course, I'm not putting Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton at that level, but he's been playing without his
Speaker 1: starting receiver's Landry and Thomas. It looks like he gets
Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry back for this game. The running game has
Speaker 1: been better. Chris O Lobby is a true Number one,
Speaker 1: he's the guy who gets the ball to Camara. A
Speaker 1: little more on that later in the show. That's what's
Speaker 1: called the tease, and I really do think he's Are
Speaker 1: you like claim and you have to if you watch
Speaker 1: him snap to snap this year, he's been good. This
Speaker 1: is this is the best version of Andy Dalton that
Speaker 1: we've ever seen. That's even better than the playoff years
Speaker 1: with the Cincinnati Bengals. And the best thing about him
Speaker 1: is he throws the ball to Alvin Camaro, which makes sense,
Speaker 1: which is why Cynthia pointed out, if you're Eric to Costa,
Speaker 1: you make some call, you go get Roquan Smith. I
Speaker 1: know people have cried off ball line. Okay, uh, if
Speaker 1: if you have a linebacker that can cover you win,
Speaker 1: you win. Look at the teams that have won Super
Speaker 1: Bowls and what they've been able to do with linebackers
Speaker 1: that can cover. Yes, it's not like, hey, Roquan, just
Speaker 1: go get Alvin. It's going to be difficult, but it's
Speaker 1: a spot that the defense needed to improve, and that's
Speaker 1: why I have the Ravens winning. Greg gets this Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton points. But the way Lamar played, especially in the
Speaker 1: second half against the Buccaneers. That version of Lamar is
Speaker 1: going to win games. It's just gonna happen. One version
Speaker 1: of Lamar. It's a toss up every single week. Who
Speaker 1: which Lamar weekending, the one that's healthy, the one even
Speaker 1: you lose Mark Andrews, you lose Rashod Bateman. It didn't
Speaker 1: matter DeMarcus Robertson as the number one ride receiver with
Speaker 1: scoring points. It just I was just informed that you've
Speaker 1: picked the Ravens every week. I have, I am et
Speaker 1: and had they not turned the ball over in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter for three consecutive games, I would have been
Speaker 1: right off. That's all, like, this is this bananas, I'm
Speaker 1: picking a good team to win every week. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say it's weird. Split right there in the middle, having
Speaker 1: a close wine, and I just want to echo every
Speaker 1: single thing that Greg said. That's theirs night football games.
Speaker 1: That and that Andy daughter. We're back on good terms.
Speaker 1: The antie all absolutely bawled out three d and sixty
Speaker 1: one yards four touchdowns. We're not going to talk about
Speaker 1: the picks, but you know what that Thursday in a
Speaker 1: football game is called. It's called prime time, baby, and
Speaker 1: they're playing in another prime time game on Monday, and
Speaker 1: he shows up for those, and so do the Saints
Speaker 1: on Monday Night football. There are six and two in
Speaker 1: primetime since let's go New Orleans. Okay, guys, less than
Speaker 1: a week away next Wednesday. Oh, this is delicious hard
Speaker 1: knocks in season with the Arizona Cardinals. For their sake
Speaker 1: and the sake of the NFL film screw that has
Speaker 1: to be around them for the rest of the season,
Speaker 1: they have got to win this game. I have not
Speaker 1: been this excited for a season of hard knocks maybe ever.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be so juicy and so good. Sin
Speaker 1: Cardinals are a one and a half point favorite, and
Speaker 1: you still haven't picked the Seas to win. Eight times
Speaker 1: you have doubted them. Will you do it again? Yeah?
Speaker 1: They got the model. Let's go Seattle's one point with convincing.
Speaker 1: I think this is an interesting one. But Ken Walker
Speaker 1: has been a huge difference maker for this team. The
Speaker 1: Michigan State products have to get up then in there
Speaker 1: contractually appligated great yards after contact, yards after the catch.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would say it's really going to be
Speaker 1: hard for anyone to top him for Offensive Rookie of
Speaker 1: the Year. So when I'm looking at this game, the
Speaker 1: control that's no situation to be able to turn the
Speaker 1: ball over right. The more you have a nice ground game,
Speaker 1: the better opportunity you have to complete those deep passes
Speaker 1: and keep Jito Smith doing what we've seen Gino Smith doing.
Speaker 1: There is a producer on the show that we really
Speaker 1: care about that wants you to know, as a Michigan grad,
Speaker 1: you don't have to Missigan every single time. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you know I like Michigan too. I actually like them both.
Speaker 1: I understand that doesn't make any sense to anyone, but
Speaker 1: I'm from there. So that's when you have seventeen degrees,
Speaker 1: you like a lot of college football from none of
Speaker 1: them from any schools I I do. Despite Cynthia's mathematic,
Speaker 1: medical knowledge and capability, I agree with her. I'm not
Speaker 1: inside the model. I just have looked at this Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals defense and I've seen what they are not good at,
Speaker 1: and that is pressuring the quarterback. Guys have a lot
Speaker 1: of time. They are twenty five in sacks, and you
Speaker 1: would think the key to stopping this Gino revolution would
Speaker 1: be getting pressure on the quarterback. But that's the problem.
Speaker 1: Gino against pressure is the one of the best quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in the league right now. He's he's so hot and
Speaker 1: as Greg Rosenthal has written for a decade plus, uh,
Speaker 1: people are sleeping on Gino. I'm a little nervous about game.
Speaker 1: I have Gino and the Seahawks winning. Of course, can
Speaker 1: if he couldn't conquer the Model like he can conquer
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. Please, it's twenty four to twenty. And
Speaker 1: one of the reasons he's been so good you mentioned
Speaker 1: against pressure, Patrick, is that he just stands in the
Speaker 1: pocket and he's not worried when the pressure is in
Speaker 1: his face. And oh, by the way, he can scramble
Speaker 1: out of pressure. I didn't really understand that Gino Smith
Speaker 1: had the movement skills that he did. It's one way
Speaker 1: I underestimated him. And the Cardinals are a particularly bad
Speaker 1: team in the secondary. Even when they do get pressure.
Speaker 1: They're among the league's worst in terms of giving up
Speaker 1: quarterback rating as a defense when they're giving it. What
Speaker 1: are you laughing at you? Well, it's just like a
Speaker 1: very common score. I guess I gotta get more creative.
Speaker 1: We'll look into its like better under pressure though, you
Speaker 1: know that, m guys, the Seahawks are very fun. They
Speaker 1: are very good right now to Reak Wolen, defensive Rookie
Speaker 1: of the month, Kenny Walker, the third offensive rookie of
Speaker 1: the month, NFC Offensive Player of the Month gives me
Speaker 1: it is Geno Smith. Okay, these guys are super fun.
Speaker 1: I watched that Giants game, every minute of it. It
Speaker 1: was a the last not to mention. This defense, which
Speaker 1: all of us just attacked all season long, has improved.
Speaker 1: Allowed a hundred and six point five passer rating on
Speaker 1: passes of ten plus are yards in week one to five,
Speaker 1: allowed a seventy six passer rating on such passes the
Speaker 1: last few weeks. They are getting better. There's nothing to
Speaker 1: make fun of here, okay. And I'm talking to myself
Speaker 1: because I did times this week nine times. That's not
Speaker 1: true this season. Okay. Coming up around the break, we
Speaker 1: are talking Porpoises versus the Bears. This is gonna be
Speaker 1: a good one. I cannot wait to see two a
Speaker 1: fall out. Don't go anywhere, okay, Greg Justin Fields has
Speaker 1: been better. The Bears run game has come a live.
Speaker 1: They are home underdogs this week against Miami. Who do
Speaker 1: you like? I like the Dolphins to win. I think
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are getting better every week. I have them winning,
Speaker 1: but I don't care because I'm excited to watch Justin
Speaker 1: Fields play football. And I feel like we don't talk
Speaker 1: about the Bears enough on this show. And let's just
Speaker 1: give the man some flowers because I've been waiting six years,
Speaker 1: ever since my guy Jay Cutler left the Bears for
Speaker 1: an entertaining viewing experience watching Chicago each week, and it's
Speaker 1: taken six years to get here. But we're here two
Speaker 1: hundred plus yards uh in terms of their rushing attack
Speaker 1: four times this year, and Justin Fields is making great decisions.
Speaker 1: We asked for design runs, they gave us design runs,
Speaker 1: Like we asked them to throw the ball deep more
Speaker 1: he's doing it. And oh, by the way, they got
Speaker 1: Chase Claypool. I know I picked Miami. I think the
Speaker 1: Miami's really changed, but I saw backy boys defense. Maybe
Speaker 1: I should make it closer, but that's little splinters gonna go.
Speaker 1: You should. Maybe we've asked for all these other things
Speaker 1: we've gotten, and maybe if you ask for a win,
Speaker 1: you'll all think that we don't know what's going to happen,
Speaker 1: but we do know, like what's gonna make us happy
Speaker 1: watching Justin Fields makes me I have a close one.
Speaker 1: I have twenty one in this matchup. I do still
Speaker 1: have the Miami Dolphins winning the game. Two things. Number One,
Speaker 1: you talked about ro Kuan Smith being a raven, Well,
Speaker 1: it means he's not a bear anymore, which means the
Speaker 1: opportunity for Rheem Moster in this matchup to be a
Speaker 1: big factor gets even better. So I think that's very interesting.
Speaker 1: Also when you're looking at the maybe potential game script. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do like some Justin Fields, but I do think
Speaker 1: that the Dolphins come out first. They've increased their pass
Speaker 1: rush capability. Justin Fields might be running for his life.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a tease right there. But I still
Speaker 1: think it's dolphins fun to watch him run, even when
Speaker 1: it's just breaking out of pocket, even when the runs
Speaker 1: aren't designed. We like seeing Justin Fields run. I have
Speaker 1: a close game. It's not as close as Cynthia as
Speaker 1: it's one point off anyone Dolphins, and it's a lot
Speaker 1: of the similar reasons that Cynthia mentioned about the departure
Speaker 1: of roe Kwan Smith, But I'll take another part of
Speaker 1: this offense. As much as we saw Tony Pollard running
Speaker 1: down on those outside runs. Just torching this Bears defense.
Speaker 1: Jalen Waddles leading the NFL in yards per catch this year.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people last year like he
Speaker 1: had thirteen catches for like eighty yards. Like okay, so
Speaker 1: now we're two years back because they're annoying. Because I
Speaker 1: say annoying things. The guy was coming off a broken
Speaker 1: leg and he didn't have he wasn't didn't have that
Speaker 1: many explosive players. Well, how do you like him? Now
Speaker 1: he's getting deep shots. It's gonna be tough. They have
Speaker 1: to contend with the r p o s, the crossers
Speaker 1: in the middle, and he does stuff like that. He
Speaker 1: just catches one in houses because he's fast and good.
Speaker 1: You know, we're just making poking fun at Kurt Warner
Speaker 1: for wearing the Dolphins costume. You you literally literally waddled
Speaker 1: on this show. There was once upon a time where
Speaker 1: you got up. Yeah it was like six weeks ago
Speaker 1: and you made me do and I don't regret it
Speaker 1: at all. Going Dolphins as well. Dolphins seventeen. I'm actually
Speaker 1: very excited for this game. You've got the Bears top
Speaker 1: bypassing defense versus Dolphins third best passing offense. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys saw to a this week.
Speaker 1: He's he's feisty, he's we're in a spicy to era.
Speaker 1: I think the press asked him what have you improved
Speaker 1: on the most and he's like, thought about it for
Speaker 1: a second. He's like, pretty sure the deep balls. What
Speaker 1: do you guys think? I think I've improved on the
Speaker 1: deep balls? What do you guys think? And he's like,
Speaker 1: just you know, that's a subtle jab Like he's so
Speaker 1: not used to jabbing people. He had to clarify, just
Speaker 1: do you all know that's for you? That's like what
Speaker 1: I would do to love to us so much. He's
Speaker 1: got a chip. Okay, this is a challenge for him.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see him do it. Okay to sorry
Speaker 1: for this guy or that guy. Sin FanDuel has pretty
Speaker 1: even rushing totals for Justin Fields and David Montgomery. You
Speaker 1: think either of them goes for over fifty yards this week?
Speaker 1: It's fun, you know, I do think Justin Fields goes
Speaker 1: for more than fifty rushing yards this week? Why because
Speaker 1: you talk about that Miami pass rush. They've got now
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb there, So I think this is gonna be
Speaker 1: one where the designed runs increase. In the designed runs
Speaker 1: like we talked about, as well as scrambling yards are
Speaker 1: going to add up to more than fifty. I also
Speaker 1: think David Montgomery, you know, Kalil Herbert could take some
Speaker 1: of those from him. So for me, it's Justin Yeah,
Speaker 1: what about that other guy, this guy, that guy or
Speaker 1: that other guy, Khalil Herbert. That's right. So I'm going
Speaker 1: with Justin Fields. Justin Fields love it? Okay this time
Speaker 1: for quick picks. Uh, Cynthia, we're staying in the NFC
Speaker 1: North Lions packer. You've taken the Lions twice this year,
Speaker 1: which is I think pretty crazy for you. They've lost
Speaker 1: both times though this week against green Bay, can they
Speaker 1: do it? No? Twenty two? It is green Bay. Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers is going to pass for the most yards he's
Speaker 1: passed for. And Aaron Rodgers is gonna do terrible things
Speaker 1: to this year. Why why stay with Aaron Jones? Stay
Speaker 1: with a j Dillon? Watch this? Do you remember two
Speaker 1: thousand fifteen? Do you remember where you were? Well? I do?
Speaker 1: I was watching this ready and a hail Mary, and
Speaker 1: why are you doing this? It's complete Rogers to Rodgers
Speaker 1: Dagger that was at Ford Field. Let's be honest with you,
Speaker 1: like this is this just happens all the time, Like
Speaker 1: it doesn't even matter, I think, I hope so, like
Speaker 1: we're alls, so I know the terrible things happened to
Speaker 1: the Lions, like I deserve to have terrible things happen
Speaker 1: to me. That's generally how I feel. But especially for
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do here, I'm not letting you have
Speaker 1: a prime number. Stop it switching to just blocking her.
Speaker 1: This is the first time I think I've ever done
Speaker 1: this something. I'm like now the survivor, remember back playing
Speaker 1: the game, I'm blocking you on that story. What doesn't
Speaker 1: feel right? I thought we were all in Unison except
Speaker 1: for Cynthia, and we're going to roll in here next
Speaker 1: week laughing Rogers, No way. Okay, next time we got
Speaker 1: Panther's Bengals spread here is seven, and I say, not
Speaker 1: only do the Bengals cover, I've got them winning by
Speaker 1: hen whole points. The Bengals Browns game was so bad.
Speaker 1: It was so bad, and that is obviously a very
Speaker 1: important a f C North battle. Okay, every single time
Speaker 1: these guys play it is fun. The Bengals just look like,
Speaker 1: look at that, just not even alive. In the slightest
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow said something interesting. He said, down the stretch,
Speaker 1: that's what we were so good at last year, finding
Speaker 1: ways to win. It might not be pretty, but we
Speaker 1: found ways. And we've got to get back to that
Speaker 1: in those ugly, tough divisional matchups, the games on the
Speaker 1: road where things might not be going great for you. Well,
Speaker 1: the Bengals are back home. This is a bounce back spot.
Speaker 1: We've all got the Bengals here, so we all clearly
Speaker 1: believe that game was so ugly beast in the secondary.
Speaker 1: They should feel good after the Panther's victory last week
Speaker 1: for me on that, you know, kick p J Walker
Speaker 1: with that great throw. They're gonna do it again, keep
Speaker 1: it click up momentum on a moral victory. Keep telling
Speaker 1: himself that Falcons being in the playoff race Serie first
Speaker 1: place in the end of South Gregg. They have got
Speaker 1: the Chargers this week. You have picked against them every
Speaker 1: single week coins apparently, so that shocks me. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna end it right now. I'm to be Chargers three
Speaker 1: to twenty. Now. You're making me realized. I gotta work
Speaker 1: on these scores here, but I like it because of
Speaker 1: the coaching matchup. You look at Arthur Smith and you
Speaker 1: look at Brandon Staley, and you look at one guy
Speaker 1: in Atlanta who has eighty five million dollars in dead
Speaker 1: money on his salary cap. The Chargers had eighty five
Speaker 1: million dollars more to spend on their roster. But who's
Speaker 1: got the better record here? It's Atlanta and Arthur Smith.
Speaker 1: And you look at what Brandon Staley was trying to
Speaker 1: fix in the off season. It was their run defense.
Speaker 1: And you know what, they haven't really fixed their run defense.
Speaker 1: And to me, that's coaching. And the Chargers are a
Speaker 1: team where they plug one hole in terms of a
Speaker 1: problem and then another problem pops up, whereas Atlanta I
Speaker 1: think they max out their talent. I think he's done
Speaker 1: a really good job and they can run all over them. Well,
Speaker 1: I have a incredibly convincing Chargers score is super convincing
Speaker 1: in this one. I want to talk about Austin Ekeler,
Speaker 1: huge difference maker. Obviously a lot of people are out
Speaker 1: in this one for the Charges. We just saw Keenan
Speaker 1: Allen not playing, Mike Williams not playing. But it's going
Speaker 1: to be difficult. There's a lot of things that are
Speaker 1: that's not ideal. However, the Falcons are missing pieces in
Speaker 1: their secondary as well. And while I've seen some interesting
Speaker 1: things from pressure against Justin Herbert in this offense, I
Speaker 1: think that the ultimate outlet has been Austin Ekeler. They've
Speaker 1: had some time to kind of regroup here. So the
Speaker 1: model thinks Austin Ekeler is the difference maker in this
Speaker 1: matchup and gives them hugely, hugely convincing one. Usually, if
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen, it has to be Austin. Considering who's missing,
Speaker 1: I'll say the injuries and the Falcon secondary and the
Speaker 1: injuries on the outside for the Chargers wash each other out.
Speaker 1: And we just have to look at how these teams
Speaker 1: have played this season. And Greg already mentioned the problems
Speaker 1: that Brandon Salley's defense has had against the run. How
Speaker 1: about this from the Atlanta Falcons and their quarterback and
Speaker 1: his ability, Marcus Mariota. In four games at home, the
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons have averaged over a hundred and eighty yards rushing.
Speaker 1: They do that every time out there. Their lowest total
Speaker 1: was just over a hundred and sixty yards at home.
Speaker 1: I see the Falcons running all over this Chargers team
Speaker 1: for it convincing Cynthia put victory at home in Mercedes
Speaker 1: been Stadium where they run Rachel. Oh, I am giving
Speaker 1: it to the Falcons as well to one cry. There
Speaker 1: you go, Cynthia. Obviously the injuries on the charge of
Speaker 1: speaking of injuries, it's it's no secret. I feel like
Speaker 1: Justin Herbos just not looked himself the whole season. Since
Speaker 1: he's been injured, the Falcons have been feisty. I think
Speaker 1: three out of the four losses have been by one
Speaker 1: score or less. They can stay in games, So there
Speaker 1: you go against the Chargers. Okay. Is it too early
Speaker 1: to think about the draft? Huh No, never. I love
Speaker 1: the draft and not maybe not for the loser in
Speaker 1: Jacksonville this weekend, the Raiders and the Jags both holding
Speaker 1: picks in the top six if the season ended today,
Speaker 1: good news for both of them. Doesn't end today, Gregg,
Speaker 1: The Raiders scored zero points a week ago. Zip uh
Speaker 1: slight favorites this week against the jackson I like the Raiders.
Speaker 1: I like both these teams better than the record. I
Speaker 1: don't think they'll be in the top five of the draft.
Speaker 1: When we get to the end of the season, they're
Speaker 1: oh and ten. These two teams combined in one score games,
Speaker 1: so they've been close. They just haven't quite gotten it done.
Speaker 1: But I trust the Raiders were because I trust their
Speaker 1: offense more, especially against this Jacksonville defense, which has spent
Speaker 1: money in a lot of bad places. Trent Balky, their
Speaker 1: general manager, has outlasted about seven different coaching changes between
Speaker 1: his last two jobs in San Francisco and Jacksonville. But
Speaker 1: he just keeps hanging on and you look at where
Speaker 1: he spent his money this offseason. They're the second most
Speaker 1: expensive defense in the league. Darius Williams is given up
Speaker 1: big time plays in the second Dary Foyer Loicon an
Speaker 1: off ball linebacker paid huge money, not playing well at all.
Speaker 1: And then Trayvon Walker. I think he's going to get
Speaker 1: there eventually, but he's not really helped them out as
Speaker 1: a pass rusher as a number one overall pick. So yes,
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence hasn't been great, but the defense has been
Speaker 1: even more disappointing over the last month. To me, well,
Speaker 1: I have the opposite situation. Okay, I have the Jags
Speaker 1: another really convincing one here. One Tree is my pick.
Speaker 1: Travis DTAN has been just this difference maker and obviously
Speaker 1: no more James Robinson means that at N and his
Speaker 1: ability to earn first downs on the ground reliably through
Speaker 1: the air of the shore passes has made a huge
Speaker 1: difference for Trevor Lawrence. I don't think that the Raiders
Speaker 1: defense is something that you're soon having like, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is awesome, Like they're so good and you know they're
Speaker 1: stopping ignored that part of the argument when you're building
Speaker 1: your case, you got it, Okay, Well, you know, look,
Speaker 1: I acknowledge that there are some areas where the Jags
Speaker 1: defense could be better, but I think that the Raiders
Speaker 1: defense also has some areas of improvement as well. So
Speaker 1: when I'm looking at this and I think that the
Speaker 1: run game and the ability the ability to give stability
Speaker 1: to travel Lawrence through Travis E. T N makes a difference. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the area where those problems get highlighted. And we
Speaker 1: saw the Raiders issues with Alvin Camara out of the backfield,
Speaker 1: and of course a lot of teams are gonna have
Speaker 1: issues with Alvin Camary out of the backfield. With the
Speaker 1: Travis E TN presents a unique problem and I think
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram does as well. You've seen so many players
Speaker 1: this season where the Jags left tackling Cam Robinson is
Speaker 1: out in front blocking getting him and out in space
Speaker 1: against the corners who can't necessarily challenge him a pie
Speaker 1: like like this exact play right there blocking for Evan Ingram.
Speaker 1: It's it's like we get to pick this video. I
Speaker 1: just the Raiders were exposed come on so many times
Speaker 1: this year and I've gotten and I have to and
Speaker 1: we've all gotten burned. Don't you just words. I'm just
Speaker 1: That's why I have never learned a lesson in my life.
Speaker 1: I can. I am going the Raiders as well. I
Speaker 1: know these teams all we don't want to look back
Speaker 1: on the past too much. Raiders. You the last week,
Speaker 1: putting up a goose egg has got to be one
Speaker 1: of the most humiliating, humiliating things that you can do
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And Derek har has actually done it before.
Speaker 1: And then he turned around the next week and put
Speaker 1: up a career high pass raining on forty and beat
Speaker 1: the forty Niners. Okay, this guy takes that seriously. That
Speaker 1: is humiliation wished upon no one in the NFL. I
Speaker 1: think that they bounced back and they went twenty over
Speaker 1: the Jacks who have lost a million games in a row. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Custins back in Washington against his former team. Revenge. Do
Speaker 1: we like this? I mean revenge on who you let
Speaker 1: me get paid? And not beyond the Washington Commanders are
Speaker 1: another Michigan State product. The crazy thing is they should
Speaker 1: have kept him. Don't go anywhere. We're talking this game
Speaker 1: after the break list. I know Kirk Rumbles is very
Speaker 1: Kirk Cumbels, k Kirk cousins of very humble man, is
Speaker 1: what I was trying to say. But I feel like
Speaker 1: he really needs to just lean in all the way
Speaker 1: to do you like that merch? Like I'm talking Baker May,
Speaker 1: we're bringing it back, Bgs, just go all in. It's
Speaker 1: too good. It is too good. Let's talk about Kirk
Speaker 1: Cumbels in this game. Vikings only favored by three, Will
Speaker 1: they pull it out against the Commanders? Right? Well, sorry, no,
Speaker 1: it's fine. There are those people out there that think
Speaker 1: Kirk crumbles in these situations, and that could be his
Speaker 1: line of artisanal cookies. But I am looking at this
Speaker 1: Vikings defense, especially Zadarius Smith, because I have the Vikings
Speaker 1: winning this one and the Kirk Cousins revenge game one
Speaker 1: because Darius Smith is leading the NFL and sex and
Speaker 1: as much as we love Taylor Heineke running around for
Speaker 1: several minutes and throwing yolo balls to Terry McLaren, which
Speaker 1: is the best bet the commander's offense has right now. Uh,
Speaker 1: this Vikings defense makes that particular thing tough and that's
Speaker 1: why I have a Minnesota win. Oh yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think Kirk Coumbo's crumbles in Washington. I mean this is
Speaker 1: a true revenge game. You get major motivation Kirk cumbells
Speaker 1: in Washington, so you have a closer game. What do
Speaker 1: you think about this one? When I'm looking at this matchup,
Speaker 1: it's more about game pace. I think that Dalvin Cook
Speaker 1: wib be used and it's not necessarily like an indictment
Speaker 1: of anything bad with the Vikings. Is just more that
Speaker 1: I think we've see Taylor Heineken connect with with Terry mccoran.
Speaker 1: We've seen some of these things happen, and I think
Speaker 1: they'll slow down the pace. All right, Crumbles, do your thing, Greg,
Speaker 1: Patriots Colts, remember when this game used to be really
Speaker 1: fun to watch. Manning Brady how about Ellinger Jones this.
Speaker 1: I know it's like it's buried early. The main announcers
Speaker 1: aren't on this game, but I just want to see
Speaker 1: Mac Jones play a little better. I have the Patriots
Speaker 1: winning this game. I trust them more. Jonathan Taylor is
Speaker 1: out for Indianapolis. Ellinger was fine last week. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's really going to make or break their season.
Speaker 1: But Mac Jones is going to make or break the
Speaker 1: Patriots season. And he's looked considerably worse this year than
Speaker 1: he did as a rookie, and that game against the
Speaker 1: Debts I thought was one of the worst games of
Speaker 1: his career. So I'm getting a little concerned as a
Speaker 1: resident or former resident of Massachusetts. Um when I'm looking
Speaker 1: at fantasy situations here, Damian Harris has been ill, so
Speaker 1: perhaps that means an even bigger opportunity for Montrey Stevenson,
Speaker 1: who already had a very big projection. But Stevenson like
Speaker 1: the top six five back in the league. He's like,
Speaker 1: absolutely and you want to have you even more shares
Speaker 1: of him this week. Ellinger Jones, by the way we
Speaker 1: talked about, could be like the next James Bond for sure.
Speaker 1: Like if somebody names their child back the American version
Speaker 1: all the way. The Bills are double digit favorites against
Speaker 1: the Jets this week. I have got the Bills by
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Sin what does the model say? Model says
Speaker 1: twelve point seen in this matchup. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people are excited to see maybe this Sauce gardener
Speaker 1: or says Stefon Diggs, But unfortunately it's probably not going
Speaker 1: to happen very much because of where everyone lines up.
Speaker 1: Sauce has not been traveling, it'd be weird for him
Speaker 1: to start doing that now, and then of course you
Speaker 1: have to find Diggs lining up all over that formation.
Speaker 1: So it just seems to me like this isn't going
Speaker 1: to be the kind of fun matchup that we were
Speaker 1: maybe hoping. When you watch and Greg, what on the
Speaker 1: score eight points? Has Dan seen this? Well? Do you
Speaker 1: know when you score a touchdown and you get six
Speaker 1: and then you can go for two, that makes eight?
Speaker 1: That makes sense? How about Zack Wilson is one of
Speaker 1: the worst NFL quarterbacks against pressure in the history of
Speaker 1: the league. Just like the numbers say that in the
Speaker 1: Bills are one of the best teams, if not the
Speaker 1: best teams, creating pressure it all makes sense, so they
Speaker 1: get the two point conversion though. But yeah, it's time
Speaker 1: for right this down. These are things that we're feeling
Speaker 1: pretty confident about four week. For Week nine, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go first. I am going to say that the Chiefs
Speaker 1: are going to put up the most points of week nine.
Speaker 1: They are rolling on offense. Like I said at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the show, Andy Reid with his cute little cheeks,
Speaker 1: is actually terrifying coming off of by having a little
Speaker 1: bit more time to prepare. That's more than Kirk Cumbele's,
Speaker 1: more than Washington more than Kirk Cumbel's, Kirk Crumbles, whatever
Speaker 1: you want to call him, more the most. Actually, it's impressive.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Alvin Camara. I've been hearing all
Speaker 1: this talk during the show and during the week. Ro
Speaker 1: Kwan Smith is gonna shut down Alvin Camara. That's disrespectful
Speaker 1: to Alvin Camara. No linebacker shuts down Alvin Camara than
Speaker 1: receiving her. Well, that's why you got to write it down,
Speaker 1: because you're like, oh, wow, that's that's obvious. Well that's
Speaker 1: like sixty. Then write it down every week to be
Speaker 1: more than sixty. Sure, I'll go more than whatever, but
Speaker 1: all you need is more than thirty. I'm feeling so
Speaker 1: confident more than thirty. I'm just saying we got the
Speaker 1: Camara back. There's no linebacker in the league that's gonna
Speaker 1: slow him down that much. Okay, well, I almost threatened
Speaker 1: to not tell you might write this und unless you're
Speaker 1: doing push ups. But I'll let you off the hook
Speaker 1: for this week because I love the pushups. But we
Speaker 1: talked about the Raiders offense, and you told me, Rachel
Speaker 1: that after a not so great showing, Derek Carr comes
Speaker 1: out and he just crushes it. Well, you know who
Speaker 1: else has to crush it, then, Davante Adams. You talk
Speaker 1: about a low number six receptions against the Jaguars. I
Speaker 1: think this is going to be something that happens in
Speaker 1: perhaps even I don't know the first three quarters. I
Speaker 1: don't even know four quarters for that one. So I'm
Speaker 1: looking at this one. That one seems like very nice.
Speaker 1: We're setting the bar loaf. It's okay, Well, it's also
Speaker 1: one of those things. He had one catch last week,
Speaker 1: and so it's just they know they gotta do it
Speaker 1: to just to make him happy, and yeah, get him
Speaker 1: all those targets. Everyone quiet, Yeah, this has not been
Speaker 1: what he's expected. I'm sure yea, and try to score
Speaker 1: more than no points that we're asking. We all collectively
Speaker 1: picked the Cincinnati Bengals to win. We like the opportunity
Speaker 1: for for Joe Burrow. I do not think he will
Speaker 1: have two hundred and fifty five passing yards because this
Speaker 1: Panther's defense is good. It's I just kept everybody was
Speaker 1: talking about maybe Brian Burns at the deadline. Also, how
Speaker 1: about the second year for j C. Horn and when
Speaker 1: he's done outside There was the certain and Horn discussion
Speaker 1: coming into the draft. Pat has played great. J C
Speaker 1: has played great too. We're sleeping on this defense. I
Speaker 1: think the Bengals win, but I don't think Joe hits
Speaker 1: two at home. J Horne's arms being longer than pass
Speaker 1: her tans that was the difference, Yes, huge hand and
Speaker 1: arm length draft a couple of years ago. I love
Speaker 1: the details that we get into on this show. By
Speaker 1: the way, I know that we're always expecting a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl hangover, but it's always disappointing when you actually see
Speaker 1: it happening in real life. They'll they'll this one happened
Speaker 1: to the Bengals, right, we didn't pick the Empire. Take
Speaker 1: that as inspiration, like prove us wrong this Try extra hard, everybody.
Speaker 1: We just get healthier, hydrain, you get rid of banana?
Speaker 1: So how you get rid of it? Anywer? I think? Guys,
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