1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Before we get into today's episode, we have an announcement 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: to make The time is almost here, folks, come join 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: me and the brightest female founders, thinkers, and creatives at Shinaway. 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: If you've been, you know Shinaway is more than just 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: an event. And if you haven't been yet, what are 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: you waiting for? It is a two day celebration that 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: invites you to step into a world of joy, depth 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: and discovery. The lineup is out now and I cannot 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: wait to see all my faves like Morning Show star 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: Karen Pittman, Power Pause author Naha Rouche. And I'll also 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: be sitting down for a special edition of the bright 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: Side with entrepreneur Chrissy Teagan. Plus, if you're like me 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: and reading along with Reese's book Club, get ready to 14 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: go behind the scenes with authors like Rainbow Rowl and 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: Temby Lock. It's all going down October eleventh and twelfth 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and tickets are selling fast. 17 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: So get here is now today. 18 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: On the bright Side, Malin Ackerman is here. She's the 19 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: star of the Netflix series we can't stop talking about 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: The Hunting Wives. We're getting into her undeniable Chemist Street 21 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: with co star Britney Snow. We'll learn how they hype 22 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: each other up to film the show's most intimate scenes, 23 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: and you'll hear why forty seven is Mollin's best year yet. 24 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 3: I have felt really sexy, and I have felt really 25 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: confident and proud of all the work that I've done 26 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 3: on myself and in the world, and proud of the 27 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: mother that I am to my son. And it's like 28 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: a lot of growth has happened in my forties. 29 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm simoone voice, and this is the bright side. From 30 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine, From iconic rom coms like The Proposal and 31 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: twenty seven Dresses to the bingeworthy Netflix series The Hunting Wives, 32 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: Malin Ackerman has proven there's nothing she can't do. I've 33 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: been watching Mollin light up the screen for years, but 34 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: until today, I never truly understood the source of that 35 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: deep well of emotion that she draws from. So you're 36 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: about to hear it all how she made it, from 37 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: her breakout role in the two thousand and five comedy 38 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: The Comeback, through Motherhood, career, dry Spells, and heartbreak, to 39 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: now stepping into her newest chapter as a queer icon 40 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: with her fearless turn as Margo Banks in The Hunting Wives. 41 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: This is Malin Ackerman. Like you've never heard her before, y'all. 42 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: She is unfiltered, radiant, and unmistakably in her prime. 43 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 4: So let's get into it. 44 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: Malin Ackerman, Welcome to the bright Side. 45 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 4: Thank you. 46 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: I'm so happy to have you. You have had quite 47 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: the year, lady, Yes, ma'am, I sure have. I mean, 48 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: your twenty. 49 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: Twenty five is on fire, The Hunting Wives exploding on Netflix. 50 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: You presented at the VMA's the Emmys. I know that 51 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: you've been in the industry for decades because I remember 52 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: being an entertainment reporter, like a baby entertainment reporter, and 53 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: starting out and just seeing you everywhere and I was like, Wow, 54 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: she's just like she's doing it. 55 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: She's working so much, she's everything. 56 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: But how does it feel to show up to these 57 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: events now as the star of a hit show of 58 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: this magnitude. 59 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 4: It's pretty wild. 60 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: Wild has been at the top of my vocabulary lately, 61 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 3: because that really is what it feels like. I've, like 62 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 3: you said, I've been in this business a long time. 63 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: I've never experienced anything quite like it. And it's really fun, 64 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: it's really really exciting and I'm so happy because we 65 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: love this show so much, everyone who worked on it, 66 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: so to see everyone else enjoying it as much as 67 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: we did and do is just fantastic. And we said 68 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: at the end of shooting season one, we all were 69 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: keeping our fingers crossed to saying, you know, all we 70 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: want is just a season two because we just want 71 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: to keep working together. But you know, as much as 72 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: this moment is fantastic and lovely, it's a moment and 73 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 3: we all know Hollywood, and the moment's come and go, 74 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: and so I'm basking in it for right now and 75 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: I'm loving it and it's wonderful and I hope it 76 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: leads to more seasons and maybe some other new fun jobs, 77 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: but it comes and goes. So you know, I'm not 78 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: trying to be too attached to it. 79 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 4: That's real wisdom right there. Well, it's been in it 80 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 4: for a while. 81 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: Yes, completely, Yeah, Well, we can all let out a 82 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: big cyb of relief at least for now because we 83 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: know that The Hunting Wives has been picked up for 84 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: season two. 85 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 4: Yes, and that just. 86 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: Felt like a no brainer with the outpouring of support 87 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: that the show has gotten. But I'm so curious how 88 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: did the role of Margo Banks come to you? And 89 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: more specifically, where were you in your life and professional 90 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: life when this role landed on your desk. 91 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: I was in the point in my professional life at 92 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 3: a bit of a standstill right after the strike. It 93 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 3: was a bit stagnant for most of my friends who 94 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: are in the industry. 95 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: We all were kind of texting each other going are 96 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: you working? 97 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 3: No? Are you what's happening? And so it was a 98 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: bit of a. 99 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: Weird and concerning moment. 100 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 3: And as an actor, you know, you never have a 101 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 3: steady job and so you always think this is it, 102 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 3: Like this is I'm done, Like I'm done, I'm not 103 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: relevant anymore. 104 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: This is it. 105 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 3: You know, new kids are coming in and that's it out. 106 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 3: So it was a really weird time and I just 107 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 3: felt like I really need a little boost. I need 108 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: something that's really great to come along, and boom in 109 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: came the Hunting Live scripts. And I say scripts because 110 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: normally you're sent a pilot, like the first episode, and 111 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: that's all you get, and then you just they promise 112 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 3: you the world and you hope that that's what you 113 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 3: get with a character, and you just never know. But 114 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 3: this was all eight episodes fell into my inbox. I 115 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 3: was in Sweden actually promoting a Swedish movie. It was 116 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: around Christmas time. My husband was flying in the next 117 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 3: day I started reading it and loved the character of Margo. 118 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 3: Was a little concerned about many things within the script. 119 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: You know, really, yeah, I can't imagine why. 120 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, finally enough, it wasn't really all the 121 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: intimate stuff. It was just more like the politics of 122 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 3: it and all these. 123 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: Topics that are very hot button topics. 124 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: I just thought, okay, I have to really take a 125 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: moment and go what is this, what are we saying? 126 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 3: And how do I feel about it? And the more 127 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 3: I read, I just went, oh, okay, I see what 128 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 3: this is. This is brilliant and it's tongue in cheek 129 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: and it's just an incredible environment and an incredible character. 130 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 4: So I had my husband read it. 131 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: So what do you think they could give me your 132 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: honest opinion with it? Four episode? Reading four episodes, you 133 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: just went, are you kidding me? Why are you even doubting? 134 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 2: You have to do this? It's tailor made for you, 135 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: which is also. 136 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 3: Concerning when someone says Margo Banks is tailor made for you, 137 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 3: but he then explained, you know, I think it's just 138 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: a nice way to showcase all your talents. So that 139 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: was really lovely of him to say, But it's true. 140 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 3: I think this character of Margo Banks is just so 141 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 3: multi dimensional and so juicy and nuanced and fun, and 142 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 3: really trying to keep her grounded and not become a 143 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 3: caricature of something right was the challenge, Right, keep it, 144 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: keep it real as much as you can within this 145 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 3: wild world. 146 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: One of my favorite ways to get to know a 147 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: character is by asking this question, Yeah, what do you. 148 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 4: Think Margo Banks's dating profile would say? 149 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 3: Well, it would probably be something along the lines of 150 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: I like to do whatever the fuck I want to do, 151 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: and if you want to come on this wild ride 152 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: with me, then click. 153 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: So I don't know, what do you do? Swipe right, 154 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: swipe left. Yes, you know, I think she'd be pretty straightforward. 155 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: There's no beating around the bush for that woman. 156 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: She's so messy and magnetic and charismatic and complicated. And 157 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: you said that she's one of your favorite characters to play. 158 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: Why is that what made her so irresistible to you? 159 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 3: I guess there's the freedom in her that we all 160 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: want to live vicariously through. I mean, she makes bad choices, 161 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, terrible choices, but the fun bits 162 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: of her are just so intoxicating, and I loved playing that, 163 00:07:59,520 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: you know. 164 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: But I also think that. 165 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: For me, it's just the different layers of Margo Banks 166 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,559 Speaker 3: that are super interesting building that character and going right. 167 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: You know, she comes from this She is really a survivor, 168 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 3: and the survival skills in this woman are top notch. 169 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: She's a master manipulator. 170 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: So it's a lot of fun to play all these 171 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 3: different nuances of a person. But I do think that 172 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: the most exciting bit is just the freedom that she has. 173 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: And I feel like all of us wish we could 174 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 3: just say like I want to do whatever the fuck 175 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: I want, you know, and go do it. 176 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 177 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: She seems like a person who really doesn't care what 178 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 1: other people think. Yeah, And as much as I want 179 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: to convince myself that I'm that way, I don't know. 180 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: I don't know that I am. 181 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 3: We all try, we all say it out loud, and 182 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: we're like, I don't really care, but we do because 183 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 3: we're human and we all want to be seen and 184 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 3: we all want to be accepted. But I think the 185 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: fine line there is who do we want to be 186 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 3: seen by? And who do we want to be accepted by? 187 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: And let's be careful picking that because we're not not 188 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 3: everyone ever is going to like everything that we have 189 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 3: to say or what we do, and that's an acceptance 190 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: in and of itself. 191 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 4: And I think Margo caras too. 192 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: Of course she does, but she just makes us feel 193 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 3: like she's free as a bird. 194 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: Some people are better at hiding it than others, exactly well, 195 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: I think the reaction to the show is so fascinating 196 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: and it kind of lets us in on who we've 197 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: become as people, and like where we are as consumers 198 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: and what we want because I mean, the Hollywood Reporter 199 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: calls it a deliciously trashy drama. Even the creator, Rebecca Cutter, 200 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: referred to it as anti prestige. It does feel like 201 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: this rejection of some of the more I don't know, 202 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: pretentious prestige dramas. What do you think that says about 203 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: what audiences want? 204 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: Dependulum always swings right. 205 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: So Prestige came in, and I love myself a good 206 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: prestige show. I love all these beautiful shows that have come. 207 00:09:58,480 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: Out, and you've been in them. 208 00:09:59,600 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: You were in. 209 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: Billions is a great example. 210 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: But I do think once one thing hits, everyone wants 211 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: to do the same thing and get that hit show 212 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: in that vein, you know, and then we get an 213 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: abundance of that, and then all of a sudden, when 214 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: you get something that's so off kilter, like The Hunting Wives, 215 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 3: that's so unexpected because everything else has been chasing this 216 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 3: prestige thing that's been going on, it hits like a 217 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 3: breath of fresh air. Yeah, and really, I mean I 218 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: think the other thing was there's a few factors to 219 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 3: the hit of this show, and that is for when 220 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: it was meant to be on Stars. So we made 221 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: it as a Stars show, which is a little bit 222 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: more salacious than most networks. And so when it cut 223 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: to Netflix, I think it was quite shocking. I mean, 224 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: they didn't censor any of it, which I'm so glad 225 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 3: they didn't, and they shouldn't because we're all adults there 226 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 3: too on Netflix. 227 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: But I just feel like. 228 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: There were things that maybe you would expect when you 229 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: turn on Stars, that you didn't expect when you turn 230 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: on Netflix. 231 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 4: And that was fun. 232 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: Well, one of the reasons why the show works is 233 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: because your chemistry with Britney Snow is just electric and 234 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: you'd think that you two were best of friends for years. 235 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: But I mean that's the magic of finding the right 236 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: collaborators right and finding the right performers. I read that 237 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: you didn't even do a chemistry reader, there was none 238 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: of that development beforehand. 239 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 4: What do you credit that chemistry too? 240 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 3: Well, first, I have to take my hat off to 241 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 3: the casting director who went these two, put these two together, 242 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 3: and like has obviously met us throughout the years and 243 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: been through a lot of different auditions and projects. But 244 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: I think that we got really lucky as well that 245 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 3: we did hit it off, because yeah, without a chemistry read, 246 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: I was very nervous. I mean I had seen Brittany 247 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: once in passing at a party, so I couldn't tell 248 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: you anything about her. I just knew that she was 249 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: in the same circles as I was. So I thought, 250 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 3: all right, well that's good. I mean, these are good 251 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: people that I was with, and yeah, so hopefully she's 252 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 3: good people too. And we all landed in Charlotte. She 253 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 3: and I just said, all right, we got a lot 254 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 3: of things to do in this show, so why don't 255 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: we go out for dinner and just get to know 256 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,479 Speaker 3: each other a little bit, and that one dinner solidified. 257 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 3: It was like that first date night where we were 258 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: just like, oh, this is. 259 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 4: Going to work. 260 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: We have so many similarities and such an interesting history 261 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 3: both of us. It all just resonated. And she's so 262 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 3: easy to get along with. She wears her heart on 263 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 3: her sleeve. I mean, she's one of my many best friends. 264 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 3: But I just adore her as a human being, as 265 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 3: a woman, as an actress. So yeah, we were lucky 266 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: that we hit it off, and not just us, but 267 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 3: the whole gang, all the women. We all hung out 268 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 3: every single weekend, every single night when we could. I mean, 269 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 3: we couldn't get enough of each other. 270 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: I really believe that the right collaboration can change you 271 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: as a performer and as creative. What have you gained 272 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: from this experience of collaborating with her and the entire cast. 273 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 3: Well, when you go in two roles, you either trustfall 274 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 3: or you don't. And that trustfall only happens if you 275 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: feel like you have collaborators who will hold the space 276 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 3: for you and going into scenes that are so vulnerable. 277 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: If you don't have the right collaborator, then you're not 278 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 3: going to give you all because you just you don't 279 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 3: feel safe enough to do that. You don't feel like 280 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 3: your partner's going to catch you. But that wasn't the 281 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 3: case in there, and that's all around from the top up, 282 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: from Rebecca Cutter to our directors, to Britney to everybody 283 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 3: who was around supporting. It was such a great set 284 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 3: that we went, Okay, I feel like I can trust 285 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: this process. I feel like I can trust you. Let's 286 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 3: just jump in headfirst. And that does make a difference 287 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: in your performance. I've had the opposite where I've had 288 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: to go into performance where you're going, do. 289 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 4: You want to see me fail? 290 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: Because this is just an I'm just feeling like this 291 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 3: is all Often I don't trust you at all. I'm 292 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 3: doing a bad job because I'm just in my head. 293 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: So definitely made a huge difference to have Brittany. 294 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: We've got to take a short break, but we'll be 295 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: right back with Malin Ackerman. When you show up to 296 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: a set at this stage in your career, do you 297 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: feel like you've been able to let go of some 298 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: of those insecurities that younger Malin might have brought to side. 299 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 3: God, yeah, I mean just on set and in life. 300 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: My people pleasing was out of control when I was younger. Yes, 301 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 3: it was my answer because I didn't want to ever 302 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 3: disappoint anyone or make anyone mad. Now I try to 303 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 3: lead with no just go let me just think about 304 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 3: it for a second. Is this something that I really 305 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 3: want or don't want? But yeah, I think of course. 306 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: I mean I didn't know then what I do now. 307 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: And the more it's a muscle, the more you do it, 308 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 3: the more your body sort of understands what you're doing 309 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: and how to access certain parts of yourself, and the 310 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 3: more experience you have in life that bleeds into your performances. 311 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 3: And becoming a mother was a huge one, and going 312 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 3: through a divorce was another milestone that just affected me 313 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: in different ways in different parts of my body that 314 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 3: I now have access to that I didn't when I 315 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 3: was twenty. So, you know, life experiences and work experiences 316 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: they build you and make. 317 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 4: You what you are, especially in this craft. Right. 318 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: I think it's so insane that for years we tried 319 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: to act like an actress's expiration date was what thirty 320 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: forty before she even has life experience. 321 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: It's crazy, Like, I just I'm so happy that I'm 322 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 3: living in a time now where that's not the case. 323 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 4: You know, it's all just changed so much. 324 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: I remember a director saying when I was in my 325 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 3: twenties and I had gotten a role and they the 326 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 3: director had said, you know, yes, so and so was 327 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 3: really after this role, but she had just had a 328 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: baby and no one wants to see her naked anymore. 329 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: And I just I just went, oh, is that how 330 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 4: it works? No idea? 331 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 3: She was early thirties and that was that such a 332 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 3: big statements that I think about often. That doesn't ring 333 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 3: true anymore, which is fantastic. I mean, Margo Banks is 334 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: a good example of that. I'm a forty seven year 335 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 3: old woman who's had a child, and you know, it 336 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: seems like some people want to see that. 337 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: Still, Yeah, she's hot. 338 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 3: So I just feel like it's a different time for 339 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 3: women and I'm very happy about that, and not just 340 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 3: about getting naked, but just that the roles are more 341 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 3: developed and just as women we become older and it 342 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: doesn't have to just be woman. Anybody who's in this 343 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 3: business with the experience that you get. My stepdad's an 344 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 3: architect and he I remember him saying to me when 345 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: I was younger, he said, you know, I don't understand 346 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 3: why people want to retire when they're sixty five. When 347 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: you're in a creative business, you're just hitting your peak 348 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: at that point. 349 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: Wow. 350 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 3: You just He's like, I'm getting better and better as 351 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: I go. And I think that's true of all artistic avenues. 352 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 4: And hopefully we have many peaks. 353 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely. 354 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: Okay, let me fact check something that I read Tequila 355 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: shots before sex scenes. 356 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,239 Speaker 4: Was that happening on set at all? 357 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: Once? 358 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 3: Okay, So the first time we ever had an intimate 359 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: scene together, Brittany and I had brought literally it was 360 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: literally one shot each. 361 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 4: We had this little tiny bottle. 362 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: It was like a little some sort of little tupperware, 363 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: and we were in the bathroom getting ready and like 364 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 3: getting all the body makeup put on, and you know, 365 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 3: we were so we were excited and getty and nervous, 366 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 3: and it was more just like, all right, we're choosing 367 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 3: to this. 368 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: We're going for a girl. 369 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 4: And we did a. 370 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 3: Little shot tequila with the scene because we were so nervous, 371 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 3: so just a calmer nerves, and then we went for 372 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 3: it and we're like, oh, this is great, this is 373 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: so easy. It's you, It's you and me, babe. Like, 374 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 3: this is how lovely is this? This is amazing? 375 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: Well, because of that undeniable chemistry that you share with Brittany, 376 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: you have become a queer icon. You've become a queer icon, 377 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: and you've earned the title of mother. I mean, you're 378 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: up there with Nicole Kidman, Catherine Han cap Chat bring 379 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: it baby. 380 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 2: Well okay, so bring it? 381 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 4: What does that mean? 382 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: What does it like stepping into that kind of cultural 383 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: embrace at this stage? 384 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 3: It's beautiful to be embraced in general, just by anybody, 385 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 3: and to be called mother is an honor. 386 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 2: I get it. 387 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 4: Margo is worthy of that. 388 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 3: She's quite the character, but also just so happy. You know, 389 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 3: I'm not the spokesperson, but I definitely feel so happy 390 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 3: to be embraced by the queer community and to have 391 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 3: some sort of representation for them, because I feel like 392 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: this is a good moment for that and very needed. 393 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 3: This show is not necessarily it's not the L word 394 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 3: going this, here's your gay show. But that's also what 395 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 3: I love about it, because then you have people who 396 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 3: are tuning in who might not have tuned in, and 397 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 3: then might be questioning themselves and might get curious and 398 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: might it might open up a lot of doors. So 399 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 3: it's exciting all around, but absolutely honored and happy to 400 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 3: be accepted. 401 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: I mean to get an endorsement from the queer community. Yes, 402 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: it's baseless, bring it. Do you have any plans for 403 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: this new title of yours as mother? 404 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 2: My queer community is very important to me. 405 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 3: You know, I was in the modeling world and so 406 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 3: dancing is part of my life and I love you know, 407 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 3: West Hollywood is where you go to dance. 408 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 4: But yeah, it is. 409 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 3: It's just it's nothing new. But maybe now I'll wear 410 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 3: a wig when I go out and do Margo. 411 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, please thank you. 412 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 3: Imagine my husband and I we actually fell in love 413 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: at Drag Queen Bingo at Hamburger Mary's. 414 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 2: So we're very invested in the queer community. 415 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 4: We love them. 416 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 3: They just bring a little extra sparkle and shine and 417 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 3: magic to the world. 418 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: So I'll continue to be out there. 419 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 4: We need to see Margo Banks on a float. 420 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 2: Yes, please we go that there. 421 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm manifesting that well, moll And you make me really 422 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: excited about my forties because you've said that at forty seven, 423 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: you finally feel like you're really stepping into yourself. What 424 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: do you think has shifted for you in this chapter 425 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: of your career and just your personal life and the 426 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: way you view yourself. 427 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 3: It's been a lot of work over the years of 428 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 3: figuring out who I am and what I want. I 429 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 3: like to look at it as like unpacking a suitcase 430 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 3: and pulling pieces out and going, is this mine? Or 431 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: is this maybe something that my mom gave me that 432 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: I didn't want, don't need and put it over there? 433 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 4: Is this mine? 434 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,959 Speaker 2: Or is this something that society told me? 435 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 3: Or so it's that unpacking that has happened over many, 436 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 3: many years and not caring as much anymore, truly, because 437 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 3: you know who your people are and you know what 438 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: you need from your people, and then the rest is 439 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 3: just chatter. And especially now in this age of social 440 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 3: media and everyone having an opinion, everyone's entitled to their opinion, 441 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 3: but I don't have to take it in and I'm 442 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 3: not going to please everybody. 443 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 2: And I'm really truly okay with that. 444 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 4: You know. 445 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 3: I have an incredible husband. I just feel really good 446 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 3: about myself. I do take care of myself mentally, physically. 447 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 3: I just have figured out who I am right now, 448 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: and it takes a while to do that. And so 449 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 3: my forties have been I have felt really sexy, and 450 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 3: I have felt really confident and proud of all the 451 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: work that I've done on myself and in the world, 452 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 3: and proud of the mother that I am to my son. 453 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 2: And it's like a lot of. 454 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 3: Growth has happened in my forties, and listening to my 455 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 3: gut has been the biggest one where I was very 456 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 3: scared to do that in my twenties and started to 457 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 3: look at that in my thirties. But I'm excited for 458 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 3: my fifties. I think it only gets better and better. 459 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 4: Us I think so too. Yeah, what do you credit 460 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 4: that growth to? 461 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 3: I inherently am a curious person as far as I 462 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 3: wanted to become a therapist. I studied psychology at university 463 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 3: only for one year and then acting kind of took off. 464 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: But a lot of self help books, just that kind 465 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: of that world has always been interesting to me. I 466 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 3: was raised a Buddhist and so just the philosophies within 467 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 3: Buddhism have been really helpful, but absolutely therapy, and that 468 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 3: started later on in life in my thirties, I would say, 469 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 3: and coaching, doing courses on becoming a coach and certified 470 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 3: youth and child development coach, and all of that stuff 471 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: has just been the curiosity of people and the mind 472 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 3: and my own inner workings and my own gremlins and 473 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: quieting them down and letting you know, the rest of 474 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 3: the positivity sort of shine through and my gut be 475 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 3: louder than anything else. So yeah, a lot of journeying 476 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 3: and being more honest and open and brave enough to 477 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 3: be vulnerable with my friends and asking for help when 478 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: I need it, because that I used to feel was 479 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 3: a weakness and now I realize that that's a strength, 480 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 3: and that's brave to go and ask for help from 481 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 3: your friends, your partners, your family, whatever it is. 482 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you brought up your child psychology 483 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: work because I think that's my favorite mall. In fact, 484 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: I love Malan the actress, but I love that you 485 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: have this heart for children and this heart for helping 486 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: them articulate their feelings. I read that you were certified 487 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: as a youth and child development coach during COVID, Yes, 488 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: and that you actually conducted group sessions with boys in 489 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: juvenile hall. Yeah, tell me about that. 490 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 3: So the juvenile hall, So that happened before I was 491 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 3: certified because another friend of mine is a coach. She 492 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 3: has her own company called up Level Productions, and she 493 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 3: trains leaders how to be better leaders and has done 494 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 3: it for like twenty five years. And so she asked me, 495 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 3: she said, I'm going to create a twelve week course. 496 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: For boys in juvenile hall. 497 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 3: Why don't you come and do one weekend course at 498 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: my coaching institute so that you like understand it and 499 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 3: I'll build the course and you be my co leader. 500 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 4: And so we did. 501 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: We went in and we did every Saturday for twelve weeks, 502 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 3: for four hours a day. We go in and work 503 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 3: with these boys and doing a hall and you know, 504 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 3: walking in, we're like, we're coming in to coach you 505 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 3: and like teach you values mining and aligning yourself with that. 506 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 3: And funnily enough, we were the ones who were coached. 507 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 3: I mean, these boys are the most emotionally intelligent humans 508 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 3: I've ever met. You know, they have a lot of 509 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 3: adversities and they have to be street smart. But boy, 510 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 3: when you start getting them to share and seeing them 511 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: aligning with their values and speaking to us about what 512 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 3: their lives look like and how we can bring ourselves 513 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 3: together and figure out a way forward. It was just 514 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 3: like magic happened. And then my friend who started this course, 515 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 3: she ended up moving out of LA and so I went, 516 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 3: how am I going to get back in there? I'm 517 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 3: not certified, you know. I can't just walk in and 518 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 3: be like, hey, I just want to talk to the boys. 519 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 3: So I decided to certify myself and have yet to 520 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 3: start building a course and doing all of that again. 521 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 2: But it's a work in progress, but we'll get there. 522 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 3: But that is one of the things that makes me 523 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: feel the most alive is being in the trenches with 524 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 3: anybody really who just wants to be open and vulnerable 525 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 3: and talk about real things. 526 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 4: Why do you think it makes you feel so alive? 527 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 4: What does it give you? I think it's humans connecting. 528 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 3: It's seeing and being seen and being curious and discovering things. 529 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 3: It's journeying again, you know, but truly journeying in an 530 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 3: authentic space. We take all our guards down and it 531 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 3: just makes us all feel like we're okay. We're all 532 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 3: experiencing the same thing things. We're all having a human experience. 533 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 3: But a lot of us are taught to put your 534 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 3: best foot forward, put on a happy face, and everything's 535 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 3: good and be positive, and that certainly has been my 536 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 3: motto of my whole life. And I do want to 537 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: look for the good things in life, but we also 538 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 3: have to break ourselves down and be real, be transparent, 539 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 3: and otherwise everything just feels shameful and you're going but oh, you're. 540 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 4: Also doing that. 541 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 3: You also feel that, Oh no, I don't feel as 542 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 3: much shame because that's normal. So I think that's what 543 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 3: I get out of it. 544 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 4: So you could work with adults. Why do you have 545 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 4: a heart for children. 546 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 3: Because I saw it so much as a child's went 547 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 3: through it myself as a child, growing up with a 548 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 3: parent who struggled with depression her whole life, and it 549 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 3: was really hard because she didn't have the tools to 550 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 3: speak to me about it, and I didn't have the 551 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 3: vocabulary to talk about it or understand. I never spoke 552 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 3: to friends about it. I never It was just kind 553 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 3: of taboo. Mental health wasn't a thing like it is now, 554 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 3: and so I felt lost. I didn't understand if it 555 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 3: was my faults. And I saw other kids who were 556 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 3: struggling at school. I had two friends at school that 557 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 3: took their own lives in high school, and just people struggling, 558 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 3: and I think that children really just don't have the tools, 559 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 3: and all you have are the people that are in 560 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 3: your house. Usually those are your main mentors, and they're 561 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 3: not always well equipped to help you in life. And 562 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 3: so if we could find a way to give every 563 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 3: child a mentor who has the tools to guide them 564 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 3: at least with that kind of stuff, just to give 565 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: them vocabulary and tell them it's okay to talk about 566 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 3: things and to talk about feelings and it's not their 567 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 3: fault that their parent is angry right now or. 568 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 4: Whatever it is. 569 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 3: But I just have a soft spot because kids are 570 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,719 Speaker 3: so vulnerable, and they also have so much opportunity. You know, 571 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 3: we have this opportunity here to plant some really great 572 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 3: seeds so that they can move forward with tools and 573 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 3: get a better chance at it. 574 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: Earlier on more from Malin Akerman after this quick break, 575 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: and we're back with Malin Akerman. You grew up in 576 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: a Swedish households and culture. What does that mean to 577 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: you to be Swedish? What's the most Swedish thing about you? 578 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 2: Meatballs? 579 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 3: No, the Swedish culture to me is very logical. I 580 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 3: feel like it's quite open minded. I feel like because 581 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 3: we're such a small country. We learn many languages in school. 582 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 3: Right off the bat, we know that if we're going 583 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 3: to go out in the world, nobody speaks Swedish, like 584 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 3: we're a minority, and so when you go out, you're like, Hi, 585 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: what is there to learn? Like, what's out here? What's 586 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 3: this language? So there's an inherent curiosity, and I also 587 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 3: feel like there are a lot of things that make 588 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 3: sense to me. Body consciousness. Bodies are natural, they're presented 589 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 3: as a naked body is a. 590 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: Natural thing versus a sexual thing. 591 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: You know, growing up, I would be naked and asana 592 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: with all sorts of family members and you go skinny, 593 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 3: you know, at the lake and you get in the 594 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 3: side like there was nothing sexualized about it. 595 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 2: It was just natural. 596 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 3: So there's an openness with you know, your body, and 597 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 3: which I think translates because people always ask like. 598 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 2: How do you feel about being naked on set? 599 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 3: You know, getting into these intimate scenes, and of course 600 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 3: it's uncomfortable. It's not like, oh, I'm Swedish, it's fine. 601 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: Well, you don't have all these like gaffers and grips 602 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: watching me. 603 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 3: It's very, very different when you're on a set and 604 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 3: it's not the day that you jump and jump for joy. 605 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: But I also don't feel like it's crazy and wild. 606 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: It's just part of being human. 607 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: Is there a Swedish word or concept that can't be 608 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: translated that you really love? 609 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if I love it, but it's 610 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 3: actually one that there's two that I can think of, 611 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 3: and I don't love either one to be honest with you. 612 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 3: One is logom, which is like it's somewhere in the middle. 613 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 3: You're like, it's, oh, well, I guess you can. I 614 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 3: guess you can say kind of it's just right, it's 615 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 3: just enough, but it's more of a negative connotation like 616 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 3: don't do too just do it. 617 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: Log the like just do it. 618 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 3: It's kind of like trying to just be don't be 619 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 3: better and don't be less, like just melting. And then 620 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 3: the other one, which is in the same vein as 621 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 3: yum the log, which is also like we have this 622 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 3: unspoken rule in Sweden. 623 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 4: Where its yuan the log. 624 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 3: It's a law that is just be just melt in 625 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 3: like don't be don't think you're better than, or don't 626 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 3: be too much or don't be just just right. Everything's 627 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 3: kind of like, you know, there's a lot of Yeah, 628 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 3: just blend in it, just blend it. 629 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: Don't do anything too crazy, exactly exactly. 630 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: I mean it sounds like a pretty peaceful society to 631 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: live in based off of those rules. 632 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, but then you don't get the inspiration and the craziness. 633 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 2: I like people going for it, you. 634 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 3: Know, which can come with a lot of crazy, but 635 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 3: sometimes it's good crazy. 636 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: Well, that is something that I think America does well, 637 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: this idea of you can be anything you want to be, 638 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: You can create whatever business you want to create. Anybody 639 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: can be president. And when you travel and talk to 640 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: other people, you realize, oh, that's actually not a philosophy 641 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: that transfers to other societies. 642 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 3: No, it's not at all. And that's the beauty of it. 643 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 3: That's why we're here living out our dreams exactly here 644 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 3: we are. 645 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 4: Look at us. 646 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: Well, I am so thrilled to see you getting all 647 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: your flowers, because, like I said, you have been out 648 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: here working girl. And one of my favorite roles of 649 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: yours is on the comeback with Lisa Kudrou And I 650 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: know that that was your big break in the industry, 651 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: and I was thinking as you were coming here today, 652 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: it must be so interesting to reflect on that role 653 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: now because the character that you played was this young 654 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: Angenoux who is kind of disrupting the industry. She's breaking 655 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: in and she's essentially dethroning Lisa Kudro's character, who's like 656 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: this older actress who's like looking for a comeback, looking 657 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: to break back in. It's so layered now considering where 658 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: we are and where you are what we were. 659 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 4: Just talking about. 660 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 3: Yes, I was like, it's just a moment, so let's 661 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,239 Speaker 3: just calm down. Someone younger and new is waiting for 662 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 3: that to step in it. But there's a What I've 663 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 3: realized is that there's a cycle and that you can, 664 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 3: you know, reinvent yourself over and over and over again. 665 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 3: So it's okay, you can have a moment and it 666 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 3: can disappear. You can reinvent yourself. But yeah, I mean 667 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 3: that it's so true to this business where I keep saying, 668 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 3: you know, that was I'll say this with quotes, like 669 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 3: the easiest role of my life, only because I just 670 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 3: had to emulate real life. They just said, you're this 671 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 3: new young actress coming in and you get to work 672 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 3: with someone that you've idolized your whole life, which I had, 673 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 3: so it's like, oh, so I just have to play 674 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 3: myself because it's Lisa Kudro, Michael Patrick King, Like what 675 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 3: is not to love about this? So it was really 676 00:32:54,800 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 3: interesting and now looking back, you know, twenty years, just 677 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 3: going wow, this is it is so true. 678 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 2: This is how this business works. 679 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 3: They were so onto something with this show, and they 680 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 3: are and they continue to be. So it's exciting that 681 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 3: The Comeback was the beginning for me and they gave 682 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 3: me life in this business. 683 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 2: Is really what happened. But it's kind of meta. It 684 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 2: really is. 685 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: It really is so meta. And we're getting a season 686 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: three of The Comeback. Yeah, third and final season. Yeah, 687 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: I hear, as of right now, you're not involved? 688 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: Do we have more? 689 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: Oh? I don't know. No, no, no, no, you know 690 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: what y'all. It is giving me a coy smile right now. 691 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I know there's a third season. 692 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 3: I love everyone who's on it. 693 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 2: I've been in this business long enough to know that smile. 694 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say anymore. 695 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 3: Excited for them season three and for all the fans 696 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 3: gonn me great. 697 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: Well, I am so excited to see that and also 698 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: so excited to see season two of The Hunting Wives. 699 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: You have called this role the role of a lifetime 700 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: to be able to jump back in and now expand it. Yeah, 701 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: what does that mean to you? And what are the 702 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: layers that you're hoping to dig into. 703 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 3: I feel like we've done pretty deep already, but I 704 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 3: am so excited to go back and get to continue 705 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 3: as Margo Banks. I think the excitement comes from the response. 706 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 3: You know, to go back and get to reprieve something 707 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 3: and know that there are fans out there waiting for 708 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 3: us to come back as these characters is so exciting. 709 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 4: I know that Rebecca's. 710 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 3: Freaking out a bit because she's never written under so 711 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 3: much pressure before. 712 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's like, I've really got to make the fans happy. 713 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 3: You know. She's the sweetest and I know she'll succeed, 714 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 3: but I really don't know how we top that first season. 715 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 3: That's why I'm not the writer. That's why I'm not 716 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 3: the mastermind mind this. I'll just go play the character. 717 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 3: But I've said that about many shows where just you know, 718 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 3: you finish the season, You're like, that was so good, 719 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 3: how are they going to make it as good or better? 720 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 3: And they succeed. So I have faith that Rebecca will 721 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 3: do something great with this next season. 722 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 4: Have you seen any scripts yet? 723 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 2: Nahing yet? I mean, the poor thing she's it just 724 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 2: got announced. We need them now and usually get like a. 725 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 3: Five month writer's room, but we start in November already, 726 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 3: so she's you know, she's hustling right now, just to 727 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 3: give the fans a summer release. 728 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,399 Speaker 2: That's what they want, that's what they get. 729 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: Well, Malin, I love to end each episode by asking 730 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: each guest, what are you celebrating right now? 731 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, right now, I'm going to continue to 732 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 3: celebrate this season, to pickup and the success of this show. 733 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 2: Because it feels really at. 734 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 3: The surface of everything. It's what's bubbling on top. So yeah, 735 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 3: I'm going to write it for a minute. 736 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 4: Yeah you deserve it. Thank you, Thank you, Molan, thanks 737 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 4: so much. 738 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: Malin Ackerman is a Swedish Canadian actor catcher right now 739 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: in Netflix's The Hunting Wives. Before we wrap today's episode, 740 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to take a minute to share a little 741 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: parenting hack brought to you by Microsoft. I have shared 742 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: quite a bit of my parenting journey with you on 743 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: this podcast, and one thing I didn't expect when I 744 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: became a mom, was the constant buzz of background worry. 745 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: My boys are four and five now, and it's just 746 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: the rumination over how they're doing, what they're doing, and 747 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: if I'm doing the right things to support them. This 748 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: is the constant inner monologue that I face. When they 749 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: were younger, it was things like are they going to 750 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: fall off the monkey bars? Did they eat enough vegetables? Today? 751 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: Have I given them too much sugar? Definitely guilty of that. Well, 752 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: now they're a little older and we've graduated from the 753 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: monkey bars to full blown rock climbing walls, and my 754 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: anxieties have evolved too. As my kids begin to reach 755 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: for phones and computers, my worries have shifted into the 756 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: digital space. I catch myself wondering is that game download harmless? 757 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: Or is it opening a door to a scary virus? 758 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,479 Speaker 1: Could their personal information be out there before they even 759 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: get their driver's licenses? 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Defender takes some 769 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: of that invisible weight off my shoulders so I can 770 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: spend less time worrying and more time just being present 771 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: and enjoying watching them grow up. Because at the end 772 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: of the day, that's what mindful parenting looks like. Knowing 773 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 1: where to focus your energy and having tools that help 774 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 1: you protect. 775 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 4: What matters most. 776 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: To learn more, visit Microsoft three dot com. 777 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 4: Slash Defender. 778 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: The bright Side is a production of Hello, Sunshine and 779 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: iHeart Podcasts and is executive produced by Reese Witherspoon and 780 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: me Simone Boyce. Production is by a Cast Creative Studios. 781 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: Our producers are Taylor Williamson, Adrian Bain, Abby Delk, and 782 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: Darby Masters. Our production assistant is Joya putnoy Acasts executive 783 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: producers are Jenny Kaplan and Emily Rudder. Maureen Polo and 784 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: Reese Witherspoon are the executive producers. 785 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 2: For Hello Sunshine. 786 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: Ali Perry and Lauren Hansen are the executive producers for 787 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: iHeart podcasts. Our theme song is by Anna Stump and 788 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: Hamilton lighthauser