Speaker 1: It's nine O gene one engine with Jenny Garth and
Speaker 1: Tory spelling.
Speaker 2: So, you guys, I feel like we the podcast us
Speaker 2: were holiday by holiday in line in sync with the
Speaker 2: show for a while. Now we're totally thrown off. It's
Speaker 2: spreading here and the show is talking about Thanksgiving, so
Speaker 2: we're half.
Speaker 3: A year off. Cool. I don't know what happened. Is
Speaker 3: it us or is it them?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not close now because it's almost like I'm
Speaker 4: ignoring that it's Thanksgiving because it looks so sunny and
Speaker 4: spring like and it's spring in the world that I'm like, eh,
Speaker 4: I'm just.
Speaker 2: Gonna aside from a few mentions in the last scene,
Speaker 2: you don't really know it's Thanksgiving anyway, so you could
Speaker 2: just like.
Speaker 4: That, and even then you're still like, oh, they're having
Speaker 4: Thanksgiving at the you know, Habitat for Humanity House.
Speaker 3: Yeah I was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't feel Thanksgiving at all.
Speaker 3: No, no, oh, not at all.
Speaker 1: It didn't feel like Thanksgiving. It felt like, I don't
Speaker 1: even know nothing.
Speaker 4: It didn't feel like summer. You're driving up the coast
Speaker 4: to Montecito and it's like it seemed like the middle
Speaker 4: of summer in California.
Speaker 1: It is like that a Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3: Yea true, so true.
Speaker 4: Wait, what do you guys think of this episode overall?
Speaker 4: Because we're back to sort of like three very disjointed
Speaker 4: storylines almost four no connection whatsoever. Not crazy about it, really, Jenny.
Speaker 1: It was a lot. There was a lot going on,
Speaker 1: a lot of jumping back and forth, and it felt
Speaker 1: weird because they were so different, Like David's story was
Speaker 1: so different than the group, and then Kelly and Mark
Speaker 1: and the Steve. It was a lot.
Speaker 4: It's very different storylines and very different tones. You have
Speaker 4: such a serious storyline going while simultaneously you sort of
Speaker 4: have this like drama was Steven Brandon, but then the
Speaker 4: habitat for humanity is kind of like a lighter. And
Speaker 4: then you've got the two of you driving up the
Speaker 4: coast in this relationship that's suddenly like, I mean, that's
Speaker 4: pretty serious, the two of you going away for Thanksgiving
Speaker 4: and then just diarrhea City.
Speaker 1: So it's just like, ew, I don't even want to
Speaker 1: think about it.
Speaker 2: Really, they were all, I guess more serious. And it's
Speaker 2: shocking that Jason directed this one because it was the
Speaker 2: tone of it was not his directing at all.
Speaker 4: I agree with you, Tori. It was not how he normally.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's very he directed it well, but it's
Speaker 4: Brian's stuff is really serious.
Speaker 3: It's really good.
Speaker 1: Dare we say this was the moment when his directing
Speaker 1: kind of took a turn, like he started to really
Speaker 1: up his game and do drama instead of such like
Speaker 1: silly fun stuff.
Speaker 4: And big directing. Because you really are driving up the
Speaker 4: coast and it didn't look cheesy and how sometimes car
Speaker 4: rides look in TV shows. It looked really good. You've
Speaker 4: got the house build, he's got big stuff he's doing
Speaker 4: in this episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I feel like that's the thing about
Speaker 2: Jason directing, even back then, is he always thought big
Speaker 2: and wanted to step it up and wanted to include
Speaker 2: big you know, big shots, screenshots like things to elevate
Speaker 2: the show through the vision of our cast. And yeah,
Speaker 2: he always got it. So I guess if anyone was
Speaker 2: going to get that luxury, it'd be Jason. So they
Speaker 2: allowed him to push that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jenny, do you have any memory of driving up
Speaker 4: the coast with the guy that you had no chemistry with?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: None.
Speaker 3: I don't even rememb where he's going. Zero.
Speaker 1: I don't know where.
Speaker 3: I don't even remember that storyline.
Speaker 4: It's almost like they pulled over in Malibu, shot a
Speaker 4: bunch of stuff and then went back to like yeah,
Speaker 4: sets with a weird restaurant scene and a creepy they
Speaker 4: wouldn't call it a motel six what did you guys
Speaker 4: call it a best motel or something?
Speaker 1: But it was actually the surf rider in Malibu.
Speaker 4: Were no way?
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you see that exterior shot of it?
Speaker 4: No? No, First of all, if you're it's not like
Speaker 4: Santa Barbara is in Texas, like you can just drive home,
Speaker 4: like people drive to Santa Barbara for dinner and go.
Speaker 3: Homes had a pack day.
Speaker 4: They had to get back to say you needed the
Speaker 4: I guess it was called the Best.
Speaker 1: Nest Best Nest. They though, no, he had They had
Speaker 1: this special romantic weekend planned. I guess hi area matching
Speaker 1: Satin Jammi's wait, let's just tell.
Speaker 4: The matching Satin jammies were hysterical.
Speaker 1: I tell everybody what we're talking about. How about that
Speaker 1: we are talking about season seven, episode eleven. If I
Speaker 1: had a hammer.
Speaker 4: If I had a hammer, you're doing a hammer.
Speaker 1: In the mall, oh boy and had him and the
Speaker 1: Eve Man, you.
Speaker 2: Guys just hammer out all my joy anyways. Synopsis. Thanksgiving
Speaker 2: and Beverly Hills turns into a cornucopia of complications. Steve's
Speaker 2: cheating scandal intensive eyes when he faces expulsion, Brandon's career
Speaker 2: hangs in the violence when he's charged with collusion. David's
Speaker 2: cafeteria chaos prompts a psychiatric evaluation, and Mark and Kelly
Speaker 2: head to Montecito but wind up with Mona Zuma's Revenge instead.
Speaker 1: Directed by Jason Priestley, written by John well.
Speaker 4: Lee, the dumb storyline for me, I'm sorry is the
Speaker 4: is the stolen paper. It's like they're trying to make
Speaker 4: something out of it. Like Steve needs to just say
Speaker 4: I stole this. Brandon had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 4: I stole it, and like that teacher coming back and
Speaker 4: being like now he's like, ah, this is how I'm
Speaker 4: gonna get Brandon Walsh like it's just stupid. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: just like.
Speaker 1: Come on, I know, I don't understand how it's such
Speaker 1: a big deal and why Jason's involved. He had I mean, Brandon,
Speaker 1: he had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 4: Because I guess we're supposed to believe that even though
Speaker 4: he had nothing to do with it. That professor who
Speaker 4: what's that guy's name, Professor Randall? Randall is like, payback's
Speaker 4: a bitch, Brandon Walsh, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean? It's just like soda going to
Speaker 3: come back.
Speaker 4: I don't think so she's long gone.
Speaker 1: What can we talk about first? What do you want
Speaker 1: to do?
Speaker 4: You want to should we keep? So we should just
Speaker 4: finish with the dumb paper storyline, which goes on and
Speaker 4: on and it's like make it in And the only
Speaker 4: thing that I'm happy about is that Brandon is mad
Speaker 4: at Steve and he should be.
Speaker 1: Why did they bring what is his name, mister Randall
Speaker 1: back in?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Professor Randall just a queink eating But then he's going
Speaker 2: to go for it because Brandon was the brightest student
Speaker 2: he ever had, and he's buried in term papers and
Speaker 2: it's like he happened to read it and he's like
Speaker 2: this sounds oddly familiar and then pulled it back up
Speaker 2: from years ago.
Speaker 4: But Steve can just say I stole it. He had
Speaker 4: nothing to do with it, because he says that, and
Speaker 4: then they're like, oh, he's still going to be in trouble.
Speaker 4: What why? Like that's like it's a crazy storyline. That's
Speaker 4: just trying so hard. Now, would this really happen in
Speaker 4: real life?
Speaker 3: In college?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody could steal a paper. But if you blatantly
Speaker 4: steal a paper, it's not like I gave you my paper.
Speaker 4: You stole it like you stole a car. You're not
Speaker 4: going to be in trouble for someone stealing your car.
Speaker 3: Would he be expelled? Steve correct uh later?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if you'd get expelled. Okay, because
Speaker 4: here's what happens in college. People don't steal other people's papers.
Speaker 4: They plagiarize a book. You know what I mean. You're
Speaker 4: writing a paper and you just take too much from
Speaker 4: a passage in a book, like a Remember cliff notes?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Remember encyclopedias?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Do you guys remember Encyclopedia?
Speaker 3: Yeah, had a whole set.
Speaker 1: Now it's AI.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, people use AI.
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh huh so crazy.
Speaker 4: Notice whenever I Google something, it comes up AI. Now
Speaker 4: the top thing is now AI. So if you googled,
Speaker 4: like what did Kelly eat to give her diarrhea? And
Speaker 4: then it'll come up like AI.
Speaker 3: SA answer for you? Of course you do?
Speaker 4: Were you vomiting? I feel like you guys vomited, not diarrhea.
Speaker 4: But I just am using this as an opportunity.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Kelly and Mark. We can get away.
Speaker 4: It's just like you don't want to be there. That's
Speaker 4: all I can say, is like, you don't want to
Speaker 4: be in that car, you don't want to be on
Speaker 4: that trip, you don't want to be in that restaurant.
Speaker 1: But honestly, he was fun and he had like some
Speaker 1: you know, good energy in this yeah episode, I felt
Speaker 1: like he was like he's in it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like he's just a guy that's going
Speaker 4: to get friend zoned, right, Like you're like, I want
Speaker 4: to like him, but I don't like him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she already has too many friends, so.
Speaker 1: Well Kelly's friend book at all full. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, She's like, I just don't. This isn't I'm not
Speaker 4: feeling this even though I want to, and this is
Speaker 4: a good dude took me to a fancy restaurant and
Speaker 4: gave me Caviare no, something gave you diarrhea? What was
Speaker 4: it cavier?
Speaker 1: Or maybe the lobster?
Speaker 4: Oh so rich? I would have diarrhea too. It's like
Speaker 4: nobody can eat.
Speaker 3: That just made me hungry.
Speaker 1: I was so grateful that they that she got food
Speaker 1: poisoning because then she didn't have to, you know, do
Speaker 1: it with him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I thought about the food poisoning in that
Speaker 4: gross motel room. I was like, nothing is worse than
Speaker 4: being sick. I once, I will tell you as a
Speaker 4: story that no one will care about. I once got
Speaker 4: so sick on a trip to Vegas at the Tropic Camera. Ooh,
Speaker 4: and nothing is.
Speaker 2: Worse like coming out both ends, just the poops.
Speaker 4: But it was so bad that I felt the need
Speaker 4: to clean the bathroom.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 4: I was like, I had to go to CVS and
Speaker 4: get four to nine and clean the I was like,
Speaker 4: this is.
Speaker 3: Like explosive, like on the walls and stuff.
Speaker 1: No, she had to do that. Wait, she cleaned it
Speaker 1: before she had the No.
Speaker 4: I cleaned it after too, because I was like I
Speaker 4: have to stay. No, because you guys, I had to
Speaker 4: continue staying in this hotel room for like four more days,
Speaker 4: and I was like, I can't. I can't on the walls.
Speaker 1: I'm so curious.
Speaker 4: Didn't go on the walls.
Speaker 3: There was something on the walls.
Speaker 4: I know toy is saying that, I'm just saying I
Speaker 4: wanted to clean the toilet and just the sinks and everything.
Speaker 4: I was like, so gross. I'll never forget it. I
Speaker 4: was so sick. And then I but you know, once
Speaker 4: you have diary, you feel a lot better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're going to have to have it, it's
Speaker 3: better at like a she hotel.
Speaker 4: I highly recommend trying to count how many times to
Speaker 4: say diary in this episode.
Speaker 2: It's like a it's better than hammer if I but.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, stop my kids.
Speaker 4: That motel room was gross.
Speaker 3: I was not.
Speaker 4: I was like, just go back to Bevero.
Speaker 1: You guys, come on.
Speaker 4: Where'd you get the matching gyms?
Speaker 1: You both need to face a little adversity. Clearly that
Speaker 1: was a very nice hotel.
Speaker 4: The no, that motel room was not nice, but it.
Speaker 1: Was not like gross.
Speaker 4: It's a surf rider, I know, but it was supposed
Speaker 4: to be sort of the best nest. They were trying
Speaker 4: to say motel six like it was not nice.
Speaker 2: The surf rider is legit now, it wasn't that back then,
Speaker 2: any guys.
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, we never went anywhere. We
Speaker 1: didn't travel, we didn't go on airplanes, we didn't have hope,
Speaker 1: we never went to a hotel. And I remember the
Speaker 1: first hotel that we went to. It was a holiday inn,
Speaker 1: and that for us was the lap of Lug.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, I remember that. Back in the day,
Speaker 4: the holiday inn was like totally fine at a pool,
Speaker 4: maybe even like a breakfast buffet.
Speaker 3: Oh now it's like a four star hotel holiday and.
Speaker 4: Holid is not.
Speaker 1: I think it's gone down hill too.
Speaker 3: It's not cheap, you guys.
Speaker 4: No, nothing's nothing is cheap.
Speaker 3: It's like two hundred dollars a night. You guys.
Speaker 4: Remember when that Holiday Inn in Brentwood, that Circle building, Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1: I love I stayed there when I first came to La.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of iconic.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, but no, uh. Motel six used to be
Speaker 1: like nineteen dollars a night, seriously.
Speaker 4: With cable TV. Remember when that was always on the
Speaker 4: signs we have HBO.
Speaker 1: And then they would always say we'll leave the light
Speaker 1: on for you.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we'll leave the light on for you. I
Speaker 4: think they still say that. So all of them are fine,
Speaker 4: Like I think that today, Like it's like Radison High
Speaker 4: Att Hilton, you kind of like go that out, you
Speaker 4: know you're gonna be all right.
Speaker 3: Mm.
Speaker 4: I stayed in some diicy places in my day, not
Speaker 4: gonna lie.
Speaker 1: Where do we say that? One time in Pennsylvania, what
Speaker 1: was it? Hilton, No, Marion by the Freeway.
Speaker 3: The one we thought was haunted. No. No.
Speaker 1: We had brown everything and we went to eat There's
Speaker 1: and all the food was fried, every single thing.
Speaker 3: It was like our worst nightmare.
Speaker 4: I've stayed in a motel with a heart shoved heart
Speaker 4: shaped hot tub in the room.
Speaker 3: Oh that's creepy. Did you get in it?
Speaker 1: Was it the Madonna?
Speaker 4: That's what the madonna in is iconic?
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: I stayed at the Fantasy and Lodge in Lake Tahoe
Speaker 4: and we would pile like eight people in. It wasn't
Speaker 4: not romantic. It was like a bunch of no into
Speaker 4: the room.
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, but did you get in a heart shaped
Speaker 2: hot tub?
Speaker 3: You know what? Like floats in that?
Speaker 4: I think we put our feet in. I don't know
Speaker 4: that anyone was like, let's get in that. Yeah, but like, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's what you would do on ski trips in college.
Speaker 4: You just shove like as many people as you could
Speaker 4: into the cheapest hotel you could find, and everyone's living
Speaker 4: their best lives. There's a couple of times where I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, this is I'm not even sure this
Speaker 4: has hot water.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just happy that they didn't have to do it,
Speaker 1: That's all I know.
Speaker 2: So they keep making a point of them almost but
Speaker 2: like not making a point of it.
Speaker 3: So what does this mean? Like where's this leading to.
Speaker 2: Show?
Speaker 4: Obviously? But goodbye, goodbye the dumb paper story We're stuck
Speaker 4: with for a minute.
Speaker 3: What it's so, Oh, it's not over.
Speaker 4: We have to deal with this brea stupid stolen paper
Speaker 4: with Steve being an idiot.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot better if you put it
Speaker 1: on like like to point five. You know, you like
Speaker 1: increase the speed goes a lot quicker.
Speaker 4: No, I cannot do that. That gives me like ajua,
Speaker 4: I cannot watch things in fast.
Speaker 1: You can do that, Yes, you can speed her up.
Speaker 4: Did you know people listen to podcasts like that and
Speaker 4: it just makes me one One time I accidentally hit
Speaker 4: that button and I thought something is wrong with my brain,
Speaker 4: like everything's in pa. Oh my god, the panic attack.
Speaker 1: Was serious and I'm strapped for time. I will fully
Speaker 1: put it on one like one and a half so
Speaker 1: that I can get my edits done quicker.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. No, Hi, you guys need to enjoy more.
Speaker 4: I even this episode I sat. I think I watched
Speaker 4: it like five days ago because I was like, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna sit back with my yummy dinner and watch this
Speaker 4: like having a real night of it. It's not homework
Speaker 4: assignment for me, you guys. It's like, oh good, okay.
Speaker 4: I think I had a baked potato with some butter
Speaker 4: on it, and I just lived my life.
Speaker 3: You know. I love a good baked potato. Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: Two more episodes for Mark two more. It's coming to
Speaker 3: an end.
Speaker 4: So what do we think of the Habitat for Humanity?
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't understand. Are they building this house for Willie?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it. There was. They gave enough background
Speaker 4: as to why, and it was nice for everyone to
Speaker 4: chip in and work. And they did not finish the home.
Speaker 4: The home is not even remotely done.
Speaker 3: I remember filming that.
Speaker 1: Were you there?
Speaker 3: I was there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you come back, you're there? And then Brian
Speaker 4: Slash David comes.
Speaker 3: And he's like, okay, m h.
Speaker 4: He bounced back quick. Yeah, a little too quick, but
Speaker 4: very well done. That storyline. Psychiatrist, famous actor, tough, tough psychiatrist.
Speaker 1: I like him.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so psychiatrist Tony Todd, who was you know,
Speaker 2: guys know I love horror films.
Speaker 3: He was the O G. Candy Man. Yeah. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: candy Man him in that voice and it comes in
Speaker 3: the bees. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: It was my favorite horror film growing up because I'm
Speaker 2: wondering like, why him, why did they pick him? And
Speaker 2: then watching it back having that adult view now of
Speaker 2: like so much of my life was put into that
Speaker 2: when I was young, I'm like, wait, did my dad say,
Speaker 2: like we want to put him on the show? Like
Speaker 2: I had no idea. But he's also been in all
Speaker 2: the Final Destinations and oh.
Speaker 4: He passed away, but he will be in the new
Speaker 4: Final Destination tour.
Speaker 2: Okay, because he's such an intricate like og part of it.
Speaker 4: That voice, I mean, he's a amazing actor. Like that
Speaker 4: was a I know he was very young, but like
Speaker 4: he played that part well and the dream sequence was scary,
Speaker 4: like it was done well, it's just too much of
Speaker 4: a bow on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was fangirling working with him.
Speaker 2: I remember filming with him and I was so nervous
Speaker 2: that I couldn't remember, like I felt like my lines.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, remember your lines. You're
Speaker 3: working with Candy Man, and I was like, oh.
Speaker 4: God, Caroline Lager felt she was very good too. But
Speaker 4: I had a very strange thing happen. Not gonna lie guys.
Speaker 4: Suddenly her Instagram's popping up in my feed and it's
Speaker 4: like somehow, yeah, and I didn't watch it on my phone.
Speaker 4: I watched it on the TV. And then now I'm
Speaker 4: getting her and I'm like, that's.
Speaker 1: Interesting, creepy, that's what that is. Creepy or yeah, one
Speaker 1: of those Serendipit is like.
Speaker 4: Might be just luck. But like at the same time,
Speaker 4: I was like, that feels this a little bit weird.
Speaker 4: And I think it's because I was talking to Lorraine
Speaker 4: on the phone about trying to track her down, so
Speaker 4: it's like the phone heard me say it, and then
Speaker 4: now she's in my Instagram feed.
Speaker 3: This is creepy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, weird, Okay, so what let's talk about It talked
Speaker 1: about the diarrhea and the so David should we go Yeah?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 1: Because what's her name? Val did not have her own
Speaker 1: sort of storyline.
Speaker 4: She sort of had nothing doing yeah or Claire really
Speaker 4: or yea. I barely remember them even being in this episode.
Speaker 1: They did have a good scene while they were supposed
Speaker 1: to be building the house, which was a nice little
Speaker 1: backstory for both of them, where she talks about her
Speaker 1: dad used to build things in her town. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and then it's so blurry what happened? She goes he
Speaker 1: blew his brains out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you could blink and miss that. And then it
Speaker 4: was so like whoa jarring? Mm hmm, I forgot about
Speaker 4: that moment.
Speaker 1: Let's get into the David.
Speaker 4: Very well done. Mel is really stepping up as a
Speaker 4: good dad here. I feel like mel and Donna are
Speaker 4: really really trying to help.
Speaker 1: But why does he leave? He's not at the hotel
Speaker 1: sleeping on the couch like Donna.
Speaker 4: Wait, that was the hospital?
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, sorry, the hospital. It starts with an
Speaker 1: age close enough.
Speaker 4: Yeah, where does it start? Where do we pick up?
Speaker 3: We pick up at SeeU and.
Speaker 4: Oh, yes, he's very many because he hasn't slept and
Speaker 4: he has that outburst. Thank you, Tori.
Speaker 3: Yes, and Jennifer do you see Jennifer was in it?
Speaker 1: Yes, our stand in.
Speaker 3: She like grew up.
Speaker 2: With us like on like all ten seasons. And then yeah,
Speaker 2: she had a line in her first line.
Speaker 4: That was an intense scene. He really erupts and kind
Speaker 4: of goes crazy, right, and doesn't he throw the coffee
Speaker 4: and something breaks and he cuts his hand.
Speaker 1: There we go.
Speaker 4: That's how we end up at the hospital.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: We would in that scene. So good.
Speaker 4: And also, you know how I sometimes think on this
Speaker 4: show's like round peg, square hole. That isn't right. They
Speaker 4: do a nice job of like he they have this
Speaker 4: scene at a place we know he has the outburst,
Speaker 4: he cuts his hand. Ah, that's how we're at the hospital.
Speaker 4: And then we get the you know, it flows as
Speaker 4: opposed to these sort of like oh, we somehow ended
Speaker 4: up in this car driving to Santa Barbara and then
Speaker 4: we're in a weird hotel. It's like it's so like
Speaker 4: that doesn't seem like that would happen, right, Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: why this storyline's like really good because it feels it
Speaker 4: has a nice flow, it feels real, it's dramatic, it's
Speaker 4: acted well, it's written well. Everybody that would be there
Speaker 4: is there.
Speaker 1: It sort of feels like when Kelly was with Jimmy
Speaker 1: in the hospice.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, removed.
Speaker 1: From the rest of the show, but it was really
Speaker 1: good and interesting.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, that's a great comparison. It's a heavy storyline,
Speaker 4: but it's done well. It's almost like this is crazy
Speaker 4: to ask, is there like the best writer is writing
Speaker 4: the A and then like the other people are like, Oh,
Speaker 4: I guess we got to do something with these people.
Speaker 4: Let's steal a paper and let's bring it back, professor.
Speaker 4: It's like, yes, they're like in some room just throwing
Speaker 4: spaghetti against the wall where this other thing is like
Speaker 4: very brilliant.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I think that's probably what happens right to
Speaker 1: where they put like their their head writer or somebody
Speaker 1: that really knows how to write that kind of stuff
Speaker 1: on that, and then the rest is just like, eh.
Speaker 4: We need to fill eighteen more minutes.
Speaker 2: So for this one, like John Welpley was the writer,
Speaker 2: so he oversaw the whole episode, probably wrote the A storyline,
Speaker 2: but then if other staff writers would go and write
Speaker 2: the B or C storyline, he would.
Speaker 3: Then he was in charge of editing it because it
Speaker 3: was his name on it.
Speaker 1: I'll right right, I'll tell you what I enjoyed. I
Speaker 1: enjoyed David's dream when he was all wet.
Speaker 4: It was scary.
Speaker 1: I thought it was really scary, but he yeah, I
Speaker 1: liked him.
Speaker 4: And doesn't he bump into another day too?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he because they talk about Donna says when
Speaker 2: we found his mom, she was s filthy alleyway, so
Speaker 2: they go back to that in his dream, but then
Speaker 2: he turned into his mom.
Speaker 4: It's very large, like that storyline plays out, like, of
Speaker 4: course Donna is going to stay at the hospital because
Speaker 4: that's what Donna would do. Mel is there and kind
Speaker 4: of being the father figure he you know, he does
Speaker 4: have to find a way to remove himself and go
Speaker 4: back to the dental office sort of. The mom comes
Speaker 4: in her way, she behaves is very how we would
Speaker 4: want it. You know, it just plays out. It's dramatic.
Speaker 4: The doctor is really a good doctor, giving some tough love,
Speaker 4: pushing the you know, it's all like, yes, it has its,
Speaker 4: you know, little bumps, but like it just feels better
Speaker 4: to me than this like far fetched bs.
Speaker 1: With the paper, like what when Fla came though, when
Speaker 1: his mom came, she looks great, like she looks like
Speaker 1: on beds and she's taken care of herself, which is
Speaker 1: very nice. But she also said that she was she
Speaker 1: felt guilty because she had passed on her mental illness.
Speaker 4: Which is what a mom would feel. Yeah. The only
Speaker 4: thing that was like a little weird is I think
Speaker 4: they sort of play up like David only has a small,
Speaker 4: small mental illness. It's very small, do you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? Like I feel like I kind of heard that,
Speaker 4: like she is extreme and he's small. Like I just
Speaker 4: that's what my takeaway was.
Speaker 1: And I was like, hmm, yeah, he said mild mild. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's it go? Manic depressed?
Speaker 3: What do you say?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't remember, but I remember mild And I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, okay, But like I feel like they
Speaker 4: had to throw that in there, so we aren't like
Speaker 4: because David's gonna be fine in two weeks, do you
Speaker 4: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: But like in the nineties, is that how they categorized it?
Speaker 2: Like now, no idea, they're more open about it.
Speaker 4: Oh, I guess they called him a minor league manic depressive.
Speaker 4: I never heard that diagnosis before.
Speaker 1: But it's so groundbreaking to be talking about mental illness
Speaker 1: in totally ninety whatever it is.
Speaker 4: And that they didn't sugarcoat it. They didn't sugarcoat it.
Speaker 4: They went hard.
Speaker 1: Like with the main character.
Speaker 4: That's yeah, it was they went hard. That's why this
Speaker 4: show is awesome and still amazing today because I think
Speaker 4: they're doing it as well as Chicago Med does it.
Speaker 1: Frankly and just great because it's from a teenage perspective totally.
Speaker 4: And also like he's open, you know, like it's not
Speaker 4: this thing he's hiding, like the gang knows, right. There's
Speaker 4: so many things that are so good. There's so many
Speaker 4: things that are so like, are you kidding me, Brian?
Speaker 2: If like, if that's something you know we all had.
Speaker 2: Our storylines are like serious storylines that people would come
Speaker 2: up to us and be like I had that or
Speaker 2: I have this, and I was intimidated to talk about it.
Speaker 2: But you guys did I wonder if dealing with mental illness,
Speaker 2: if that's something they talk to him about about his character,
Speaker 2: I'd be curious.
Speaker 4: That's such an interesting thing, do they What did I
Speaker 4: come up to you guys and say what stands out
Speaker 4: the most? For some reason? I think the eating disorder?
Speaker 4: But I don't know. Jenny and Tory, you guys say
Speaker 4: what people say the most.
Speaker 3: How about you tour for me?
Speaker 2: I mean it's obviously her virginity, like you need it,
Speaker 2: okay to normalize it that a girl or boy? Yeah,
Speaker 2: so curmular, you could still be accepted of course and
Speaker 2: hold on to your.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, hold on to that.
Speaker 4: How did I not think of that?
Speaker 2: And another one they talk a lot about is Donna's dyslexia,
Speaker 2: which is only in one episode, but I to mention that, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's hard for me because that Kelly went
Speaker 1: did so many.
Speaker 4: Things right, and they kind of go, they go a
Speaker 4: little nuts with you. She's attacked, she's burned, she's eating disorder,
Speaker 4: she's a drug addict.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I have people from each of those storylines
Speaker 1: kind of checking in and saying that I was dealing
Speaker 1: with that too. But I love Lately, I've just been
Speaker 1: getting a lot of messages from women about the idea
Speaker 1: of choosing themselves and that makes me feel really good.
Speaker 1: I know one of our one of our super fans
Speaker 1: to our Aaron, she was watching it and that prompted
Speaker 1: her to back out of a marriage that she wow
Speaker 1: went to and she chose herself. That that was a
Speaker 1: big deal for her.
Speaker 4: So cool. It's like, yeah, there were there were things
Speaker 4: that taught us stuff. I remember that too, Like you're like, oh,
Speaker 4: I know that because it was don know which is
Speaker 4: like it makes me laugh, but it's true.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, because nobody was talking about that, especially from a
Speaker 1: team perspective. There was no programming whatsoever for teens dealing
Speaker 1: with real life issues.
Speaker 4: Bold stuff, Torri. How involved was your dad at this point?
Speaker 3: Very involved? Still?
Speaker 4: Like, because I feel like I will always say, and
Speaker 4: I know I'm going backwards, but like, I'm certain that
Speaker 4: the aid storyline was solely because he wanted that in there.
Speaker 4: Was Darren still involved at this point or was Darren Moore?
Speaker 4: Like he wasn't around as much?
Speaker 1: I think it was me onto Sex and the City
Speaker 1: at that point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, wait what year is it? Yes, you're writing,
Speaker 4: Oh my god, You're totally right. So he had done
Speaker 4: Melrose and was doing Sex in the City I think
Speaker 4: in ninety seven or something.
Speaker 1: Ye, right, great time with all those I mean, what
Speaker 1: a fun show to go onto. They didn't really deal
Speaker 1: with major issues like this, not like this, no relationships. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love whoa God he's rich and now Emma He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 4: Oh did we talk about everything?
Speaker 1: Kind of, we talked about all the storylines. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's happening though with Brandon and Tracy.
Speaker 4: She just keeps being gone, she comes back and she's
Speaker 4: just gone for the holidays all the time. Yeah, they
Speaker 4: still continue something I can't remember. There's a storyline. Oh,
Speaker 4: by the way, shout out to the person that keeps
Speaker 4: reminding us we need to zoom in on the whiteboard
Speaker 4: on her door, because I guess, like, so basically a
Speaker 4: lot of people in dorms or sorties have that white
Speaker 4: and you could leave a message like hey Lisa, like
Speaker 4: meet me in the TV room or whatever. And I
Speaker 4: guess there's like funny messages on there that were that
Speaker 4: we're not paying attention to. We might actually go back. Yeah,
Speaker 4: people are like there's always a thing on there. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so I know. And I have noticed her whiteboard, I
Speaker 4: just never like paid I did notice it, and I
Speaker 4: noticed the message has changed, but I didn't pay attention
Speaker 4: to what's on it.
Speaker 2: Oh that's exciting. We are Donn and David getting back together.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: We should go back for a second too and tell
Speaker 1: tour like your acting was so good too?
Speaker 4: Was it all hit very good? In the last two
Speaker 4: episodes with this whole thing, I couldn't get.
Speaker 2: Past my hair this episode, So thank you for saying that.
Speaker 2: You know, I feel not good with my hair back?
Speaker 2: Why was my hair back in a ponytail the entire episode?
Speaker 2: Almost the entire episode.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe you just didn't have the time to fuss
Speaker 1: with your hair.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're racing to the hospital.
Speaker 3: Were we doing double ups at this point? I'm sure
Speaker 3: if we were.
Speaker 1: Wait, I can see what's on her dorm room whiteboard? Oh,
Speaker 1: dropping list, and then it says D cells for pocket rocket.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's a you know what it is?
Speaker 2: A stapler, A vibrator to this day, strongest vibrator ever.
Speaker 3: I don't think they've made a stronger one. That was
Speaker 3: a good one.
Speaker 1: Why they have a pocket rocket? You sell like a
Speaker 1: fat D battery, big battery.
Speaker 2: That's a big pocket rocket.
Speaker 1: Well that is weird. Who would write that on there?
Speaker 1: Probably Brandon.
Speaker 4: To keep your eye on that white board, Jason.
Speaker 3: Note it funny.
Speaker 4: The satin pajamas still get me on this one. I'm like,
Speaker 4: why where do they get these matching pajamas?
Speaker 1: It's okay she has satin pajamas on.
Speaker 4: But it's just not okay that he does.
Speaker 2: Well, you're taking him down this road. First you get
Speaker 2: him what three hundred thread count sheets? And now you
Speaker 2: guys have matching satin pajamas.
Speaker 4: It's just so you know what I can say. Here's
Speaker 4: what I can say for everybody listening if they want
Speaker 4: words of wisdom. Diarrhea is either gonna make or break you.
Speaker 4: It's either gonna really make you, make a relationship just solid,
Speaker 4: or it's it's gonna break you. Any Schumer has some
Speaker 4: funny bit she did long time, getting sick with some
Speaker 4: date and like just being like, I know it's over.
Speaker 4: I know we're over.
Speaker 3: You know what that is? Funny? You said that. I'd
Speaker 3: never thought of it.
Speaker 2: But one of the reasons I married my first husband
Speaker 2: is because I got food poisoning one night and didn't
Speaker 2: and everything was so bad and he took hear of
Speaker 2: me that I always reflected on that moment. I was like,
Speaker 2: I agree, Oh my god. He nurtured me, like, he
Speaker 2: didn't run, he wasn't shaming like, and he took care
Speaker 2: of me. And he's going to be a great husband.
Speaker 4: You know your relationship is solid?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Wow, when you can talk about diarrhea everything.
Speaker 1: We want to ask this question, what if you had
Speaker 1: stayed with him?
Speaker 2: Oh, Jenny, I think about it, Jen, I just thought
Speaker 2: about it last week. Jen give an answer, what do
Speaker 2: you think? I don't know, because I don't believe in regrets.
Speaker 2: I believe everything happens for a reason. I definitely wouldn't
Speaker 2: have my five beautiful babies because Dean and I created
Speaker 2: them together, So I would have a different version of
Speaker 2: this lifetime with different babies, and that feels wrong. But
Speaker 2: I think if I had stayed with him, I don't
Speaker 2: know what do you think would have happened. He's married,
Speaker 2: he has two kids, beautiful kids, and he moved back
Speaker 2: to Peabody, Massachusetts just recently, I think in the last
Speaker 2: five years. But he was out here with his wife
Speaker 2: and kids, and we had reconnected.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. What do you think would have happened?
Speaker 1: Oh, well, it would have been so different. I can't
Speaker 1: even you know.
Speaker 2: I wanted kids so bad, and obviously I love kids.
Speaker 2: I had gotten to the point where I didn't want
Speaker 2: kids anymore. And that's how I really knew that it
Speaker 2: wasn't working.
Speaker 1: You didn't want kids with him?
Speaker 3: With him? Correct?
Speaker 1: Wonder why?
Speaker 3: Because it was like friend zone.
Speaker 1: He was so he was too nice to you, right,
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 2: So nice, But I also couldn't be me and that
Speaker 2: was really dimming my light.
Speaker 3: I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I had to be like the Donna Martin version, very
Speaker 2: PG version of Tory, and so I couldn't show all
Speaker 2: sides and that was starting to really wear on my soul.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, I can't imagine you being PG.
Speaker 3: I know, and I had to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't like a wife, you know, girl that
Speaker 2: was going to be his wife talking like that. And
Speaker 2: I understand everyone has a version that works for them.
Speaker 1: Interesting to think about, though, I know that's so funny
Speaker 1: because I was just thinking about my first wedding to Dan.
Speaker 3: I know, what if you had stayed with Dan?
Speaker 1: What if I had stayed with Dan, Well, neither of
Speaker 1: us would be right here where we are today. So
Speaker 1: I'm grateful that I didn't stay with Dan and you
Speaker 1: didn't stay with Darth.
Speaker 3: Same.
Speaker 1: That's it, Okay, So what do you give it? Guys? Amy,
Speaker 1: what's your score.
Speaker 4: On this last part of the podcast? Is a ten
Speaker 4: out of ten? I tell you, guys, h the episode's
Speaker 4: like a seven. Eh. Brian is a ten. Yes, he's
Speaker 4: a ten, and toy you're right with that, but the
Speaker 4: rest is a seven.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to give it a seven because Brian,
Speaker 4: I mean, he is an amazing actor.
Speaker 3: Yeah he is.
Speaker 4: Brian is an amazing actor. He's really good. He doesn't
Speaker 4: quite get the credit he deserves because he's good in
Speaker 4: all those other shows. I loved him in that Terminator
Speaker 4: thing or whatever it was, too. He doesn't get credit
Speaker 4: for being a really good actor.
Speaker 3: I think, unfortunately because he started on nine O two one. Oh.
Speaker 3: It's just like yeah, which isn't.
Speaker 4: Fair because it was a music career and people just
Speaker 4: put him in this box over there, like, oh, that
Speaker 4: guy when he's an amazing actor.
Speaker 3: He can be anything he wants to be, but he'll
Speaker 3: always be David Silver.
Speaker 4: Nine two one. I is a blessing and a curse
Speaker 4: for all of y'all because it was so big. You're
Speaker 4: always that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, until it's so crazy to think, until our last
Speaker 1: breath on this earth and beyond, until the end of time.
Speaker 1: We are all associated with one another. When someone talks
Speaker 1: about Brian in the press, they'll reference us. When someone
Speaker 1: talks about Tour in the press, they'll reference us. You know,
Speaker 1: it's all like we're all so connected in that way.
Speaker 4: Because even if you say, like Jennifer Aniston, right, who's
Speaker 4: like winning awards for the morning show you're still like friends.
Speaker 4: And then you're like, oh, and I like the morning show.
Speaker 4: It's always this, it's the second yeah thing, even Noah Wiley.
Speaker 4: If you guys watch the Pit, the Pit is amazing,
Speaker 4: but you're still like, oh, it's doctor Carter and now
Speaker 4: he's like a different doctor. Like you still are just
Speaker 4: like it's the one that brung you. You can't escape it,
Speaker 4: the one there was.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 4: I stole that from Trisha yearwhen and I use it
Speaker 4: all the time because she said I'll never forget it,
Speaker 4: and I use it in my work all the time.
Speaker 4: Sing the one that brung you, And it's like you
Speaker 4: gotta sing the hits so you can't not love nine
Speaker 4: O two one.
Speaker 1: Oh, I heard you say that before I say.
Speaker 4: It all the time. I said, I'll sing the one
Speaker 4: that brung you because it's what people want from me.
Speaker 2: I want what they connect it with you initially over Yeah, Well.
Speaker 4: I don't watch you in other things or love you
Speaker 4: in other ways, but you still always got to sing
Speaker 4: the one that brung you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, embrace that, you know, because that
Speaker 1: that is why we are all here together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Trisha Year, what should really I quote her a
Speaker 4: lot on that thing. I don't know if people somebody's
Speaker 4: got to tell we use that quote from her regularly.
Speaker 1: Wait, what's the next episode, y'all?
Speaker 4: It's all about the stupid day.
Speaker 3: It's all about that. I don't want to I'm want
Speaker 3: to be so mad.
Speaker 1: Season seven, episode twelve is judgment du Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: I'm going to use that technique Jen. I can't watch
Speaker 2: those scenes about believing.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna watch it for real, but I'm going to
Speaker 4: be irritated. Whoa who, I love you guys, by the way.
Speaker 4: That's like, I love how much you share with everyone here.
Speaker 4: It's like some so nice, like it's actually really cool.
Speaker 1: We like, yeah, it's nice to right. I wanted to
Speaker 1: tell you had those of Steve med and Chunky Laform
Speaker 1: and they were like bricks basically. I literally just wore
Speaker 1: them two days ago.
Speaker 2: No, like, they're almost like sandily but the brick like
Speaker 2: the brick.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love them because they make my legs look longer.
Speaker 3: I forgot about those, Gosh.
Speaker 1: I still have them. Either I still have them or
Speaker 1: I they came back and I got them.
Speaker 3: Because all that came back.
Speaker 1: Well, that's it, you guys.
Speaker 4: D In next week,