WEBVTT - Financially Lit ft. Jannese Torres 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:08.400 Hey ba fam, I am joined today by an incredible guest. 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:11.959 She has been on the show before and after. Now 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:14.280 that I've had the conversation with Denise, I just written 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:16.319 I talk to her, I'm like, Oh, you're actually a 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:20.320 human ray of sunshine and such a like a real 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:26.200 down to earth, powerful, quietly powerful woman who just is 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:30.160 really grounded in her impact. She's grounded in what she 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:33.320 wants out of life and the value she brings to others. 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:39.680 And I just feel better after spending time chatting with Denise, 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:41.880 And I'm just so excited for her, and her book 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:43.479 is coming out. You guys are going to hear all 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:47.160 about it. But let me tell y'all for those who 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.839 are not aware of Denise Torres, my one of my 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:53.400 favorite people just in life. Right now, I'll tell you 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:55.280 a little bit about her before we get into our chat. 0:00:55.360 --> 0:01:00.720 She is an award winning Latina money expert in entrepreneurship coach. 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:05.760 She became an accidental entrepreneur after job loss led her 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:09.920 to create a successful Latin food blog called Delish Delights. 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:12.880 But as you'll hear in our conversation, that is just 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:17.480 one of almost ten different business revenue streams that she 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:21.120 has built for herself over the past decade and today, 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:25.080 Janice helps clients and listeners build successful online businesses that 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:29.240 allow them to pursue financial independence and freedom, not just 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:31.760 from the nine to five grind, but the freedom to 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.920 redefine what success means for you. And we'll talk about 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:38.880 how Janice has redefined what success means for her even 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:42.600 as an influencer and entrepreneur herself. Like there's things that 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:44.640 she's been like, oh, hell no, I can make money 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:46.520 from that, but no, I don't want to because I 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:49.559 actually want some free time. So if we get into 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:54.680 everything everything from her dating life after divorce to building, 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:58.120 like we said, the multiple businesses that she has and 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:02.440 sort of how the how building a business online can 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:08.040 even make you feel disconnected from reality and from community, 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:11.359 but how she's counterbalanced that so that she has created 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:16.280 this incredible yokidto de Naro family. And Janice has always 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.960 focused on her impact. She's on a mission to educate 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:25.200 marginalized communities on entrepreneurship, investing and building generational wealth. And 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.880 her podcast Jokito di Nero, you have to go check 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:31.320 it out. And without further ado, let's just get on 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.200 into our conversation with Denise. Oh and by the way, 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:38.040 don't forget to go pick up her brand new, first 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.680 ever book. You will be hard pressed to miss it 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.120 on bookshelves because you just look for the sign that 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.679 says financially lit with the gorgeous blonde and the hot 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.600 pink power suit on the cover. It is everything. Please 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:52.320 go pick up your copy. You can also head to 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:56.800 financially litbook dot com. And Jenis is going on a booktory. Y'all, 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:58.440 so join me. I'm going to be at her stop 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.280 in New York City on May second, I believe, So 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.880 join us celebrate this incredible woman and all she has 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:07.440 to offer, and I will let I'll get out of 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.000 my way. So y'all can hear my conversation with Jennie's 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:13.919 right now? All right to be a fam? I almost 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:18.280 said me hyn't they? But I guess totally can say mehn, Hello, 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:22.200 v a fam. I am joined by friend of the show, 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:27.519 friend of me, the beautiful, the talented, the incredible Janie Torres, 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:31.280 who has a brand new, gorgeous book coming out. I 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.840 know that it's full of facts and insights for anyone 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:37.960 who wants to learn how to get their financial issue together. Jenise. 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:41.800 But can I just say the cover, it's everything, Thank 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:45.600 you Barbie. Before did you even know Barbarie was going 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:50.480 to be a cultural phenomenon? I did not the memo. Okay, 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:56.720 that the hot pink with the blonde that is serendipitous 0:03:56.760 --> 0:04:00.440 on another level. But your brand new book, financially Lit 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:02.960 the mod I'm reading it from behind you The Modern 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.440 Latina's Guide to level Up? Wait, read the whole thing. 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.119 What's it called? I'm always bad at the subtitle? 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.520 Yes, it's financially Lit. The Modern Latina's Guide to level 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:15.160 Up your dinetto and become financially bodosa O. 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:20.400 I love that. So, if you guys have not heard 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.320 our show with Jeannie's in the past, give the folks 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:26.120 a little tidbit. How would you describe yourself today? Sort 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:28.679 of like what is the Jenese package people can expect. 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:33.599 Yes, So, I am a personal finance podcaster, educator, business coach, 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:38.440 and serial entrepreneur that helps women of color financially level up. 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:40.480 And I do that in a lot of different ways. 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.719 I love focusing on the areas of financial independence and 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:47.360 entrepreneurship because that has been my path to breaking out 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:51.960 of the corporate rat race, retiring from my engineering career 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.560 in my mid thirties and now being able to pursue 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.640 basically a life built around options and freedom. And it's 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:00.760 all been thanks to learning about money. 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.000 Yes, absolutely, and Denise, I was a fan before I 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.320 was a friend. I think forget I went through this 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:09.800 moment when I launched my business a few years ago. 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:14.359 It'll be three years this June, my business adversary, and 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:16.520 I remember I probably told the story before, but I 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.480 remember kind of thinking, oh, I need new friends because 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:21.080 I don't have a lot of friends. I mean, obviously 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:23.840 I have Tiffany, but it had been the pandemic. It 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:25.560 had I had been in a nine to five, more 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:29.120 traditional career, and even like I said with the podcast, 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.000 I really just knew Tiffany. I didn't go out of 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:36.040 my way to form new connections because see also pandemic baby, right. 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.840 I was in a little bit of a haze anyhow. 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.599 But one of my the very first work trip I 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:45.000 ever took was to finn Con. But prior to that, 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:46.680 which is I got to meet you in person them, 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.240 But prior to that, I was like, I need to 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:51.880 reach out to people that I'm seeing, like really kill it? 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.640 Who are fun and seem fun, and you're one of 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.360 the first people I reached out to just to be like, Hi, Ah, 0:05:57.760 --> 0:05:59.039 I'd love to talk on the internet. 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.520 Yeah, the pandemic was a really special time for like 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:05.360 personal finance influencers. I think it was just like a 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.880 boom and we got to meet so many interesting, incredible 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:10.040 people thanks to the algorithm. 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:14.640 Yeah, a shout out to those algos and we love them, 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:18.520 but we also hate them. Yes, I actually wanted to 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.440 talk to you. I know that I was texting just 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:22.040 to kind of see what you wanted to touch on today. 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:24.560 And I for sure want to chat about the personal 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.360 and where that sort of intersects with the business side 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.400 and the financial side for you. But Ai, I'm dying 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:32.960 to talk to you about it because you know, a 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.000 huge part of your entrepreneurial journey has been teaching people 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:38.839 how to start side hustles with a blog, right. And 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:43.000 I also I have had blogs over the years, but 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:46.080 my backgrounds and journalism as a journalist for many years, 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.480 I still kind of am like somewhat a journalist. I 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:52.240 don't know, I hold myself accountable. But also I was 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:56.080 in content marketing, which is SEO. It's search engine optimization. 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:59.240 It's creating content that Google is the algorithm again, is 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.599 gonna up on a silver platter on the search results page. 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:07.599 And I just know, like before I left that, before 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:10.040 I left that space content marketing in twenty twenty one, 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.280 it was like AI was becoming a thing, and I 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:17.360 remember feeling really uncomfortable about other sites competitors of ours 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:20.640 that I heard who were using AI to create content. 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:23.840 I don't want to go down that rabbit hole just yet, 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:28.560 but I'm just like bookmarking it in my brain for later. Yeah, 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.800 but let's bring it to the book. Okay, your book 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:35.160 is coming out. If you guys have not gotten your copy, 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:36.800 where can they go to grab one? Do you have? 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:38.280 What's the main website? Is it? 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:42.040 Financially litbook dot com? Super easy to remember, and you 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:45.320 can order both the hard copy and the audiobook version. 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:49.640 Which I was just informed that we were named one 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:54.480 of Audible's most buzzworthy releases of twenty twenty four. WHOA, 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:56.760 which is wild because you think about just like how 0:07:56.760 --> 0:08:00.400 many audiobooks come out in a single quarter. It's like, 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:03.200 holy crap, somebody's listening to this and somebody likes it. 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.080 Well, the thing is like if you love which you know, 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:09.200 your podcast Yo Kioto Dinano, which everyone should check out, 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:11.840 is wonderful, and I think you can listen to. I mean, 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:13.280 how many hours is your audiobook? 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:15.280 Oh, it's I think at least like eight hours. 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:17.840 I hope that's like eight episodes of the show, you know, 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:20.080 So I feel like if fans have been hearing you 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:23.240 in that format, it's I think it's great. I love 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:26.280 audio books myself. Yeah, me too, But let's take that off. 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.240 You're going on your book tour, so you're gonna be 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:29.840 hitting some big cities. 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:36.840 You're coming to Yo, coming to New York, Dallas, La, Tampa, Miami, Orlando, and. 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:38.200 More stops on the way. 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:41.360 So I'm really excited to just see and hug real 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.959 life people because, you know, just like you, my personal 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.960 finance brand blew up during the pandemic, so I'm still 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.400 like just getting a chance to get out there and 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.640 be amongst the community. And I think that's honestly my 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.800 favorite part of this whole thing. Do you feel, genuinely? 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:59.720 Because I was just to like ticket some more real 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:02.880 not that we haven't been real, but I was listening. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:04.480 I told you, I was blow drying my hair and 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.559 I was listening to in between the blow drawing. You 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.440 know you have downtimes resting my arm. I was listening 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:14.160 to this incredible episode of I Love Estare Perell's podcast, 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:17.360 Where Should We Begin? She's a relationship sex expert. You know, 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:21.520 she's gone viral on multiple TED talks and anyway, her 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.440 and Brene Brown got together at I think it was 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.000 south By What happens in Texas? Was it south By? South? 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:30.000 I think so, yeah, I think Austin, Yeah, something in 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:34.839 Austin AnyWho, And they were talking about AI a little bit, 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:38.280 but really they were talking about like the the level 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:42.360 of loneliness even though we have so many friends online, 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:46.400 which isn't necessarily a new topic, but something that they 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:51.080 said really resonated with me. It was like the kind 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:54.120 of content that does so well even though you know, 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.880 being online is sort of like this. It's like a 0:09:56.920 --> 0:10:00.520 shield that we use to connect with people who but 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.160 we're not really like you have a thousand friends, But 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.320 who's going to feed your cat? Is the question that 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:09.319 they pose. However, they do draw this connection to how 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.720 the content that really goes viral and connects with people 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:17.880 is often very personal, very like vulnerable, and I think 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:21.280 of you in there, because you have been I think 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:25.440 vulnerable and sharing a lot of your personal journey, not 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.679 just from working nine to five and that toxic culture 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:32.360 and engineering and all that, but even in your your 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.400 personal life, personal personal life. You know, you talk about 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:37.839 deciding how long has it been? Has it been a 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:41.360 year yet? Two years? Yeah, it'll be two years in November. 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.439 In November, okay, so here and a half ish since 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:48.400 your since you separated from your then husband and you've 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:52.720 been divorced, and you, you know, you share that, And 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.920 I just wondered, as you're talking about getting to hug 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:59.360 and like physically be present with your community, have you 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:03.079 felt that human connection through the community that you've built 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:07.600 to feel like authentic and real and how has that 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:11.400 helped you during these like difficult times, not just personal 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.360 but the pandemic on top of that. Yeah? 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:16.200 Absolutely, I mean, I think the impact of what we 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:20.240 do as financial educators. You can see metrics, right, you 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:22.800 can look at your analytics and just how many downloads 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:24.920 did the podcast get or how many likes did this 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:28.000 post get. But when you meet actual people and they 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.600 burst into tears meeting you, which has happened to me 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:34.200 multiple times, or I get like spotted out in the 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.400 world and they're like, oh my god, it's you. 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:37.960 I listened to your show. 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:42.160 You realize that, like these are whole ass humans that 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:45.600 are listening to your content, that are taking in your information. 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:49.360 And I think it's a good reminder for me to 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:53.040 just like take the job seriously because you can have 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.360 real impact, you know, and when people trust you, I 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.560 think that's the most valuable form of currency that we 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.640 can have as business owners. That is literally how brands 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.520 are built on trust. And so I take that very 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:08.040 seriously and I'm not afraid to, like, you know, put 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.560 my flag in the sand and like this is where 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:12.040 I draw the line. And I'm not just going to 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.480 go hop on another trend because that's what people are doing. 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:15.320 Like if I don't. 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:19.680 Genuinely endorse something or just believe something, I'm just never 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.280 going to be the type of creator that takes a 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.920 big enough check to you know, look the other way. 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:29.439 And yeah, I mean for me, as somebody who primarily 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:31.200 obviously works from home, a lot of the work I 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:34.480 do is virtual, it's great to just get out there 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:38.120 and remember that these are actual people people that buy 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:41.200 my courses and that review the show and that support 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:42.480 the work that I'm doing. 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:46.120 It's it's very humbling and I'm really grateful for it. 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.880 I'm really excited for you to get that experience too, 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.960 to be loved by your people. Thank you, you know, 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:55.480 and I'll be there cheering you on as well. Yay, 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:58.960 which I'm excited to squeeze you too, you little nugget. 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:01.760 I remember meeting you for the first time being like, oh, 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:02.960 everybody is such a peanut. 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:06.959 Yes, everything so much taller on social media than they are. 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:11.560 Those angles. We know how to make an angle. But 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:15.160 uh yeah, and not only that, but well, I also 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:17.560 I think about you and your love for Zoomba, which 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.120 I was a diehard zoom for Freak as well. I 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.800 kind of fell off because there's not a good class 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.199 up here where I live in my goodness. Yeah, it's 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:28.959 very annoying. There's no flavor. That's not true. There's flavor, 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.800 but not and there's not not you know, convenient to 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:34.880 me and where I live, but Zoomba too. Like, I 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:36.600 just wonder what are some of the ways as an 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:40.920 online entrepreneur yourself that you have found to stay connected 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:44.080 and to not get into that trap of working in 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.680 a vacuum, and what is all this for. I don't 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.720 have anybody like you've got. You have so much. You 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.880 have a rich life, not just in business and finances, 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:56.120 but how yeah, how what are the ways and strategies 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.800 that you use just to keep grounded and to stay connected. 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.960 I think it is having an entire life off of 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.600 social media. You know. It's like this is just one 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.360 small part of what people see. But you know, I 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.120 have friends. Two of my best friends are people that 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:11.840 I went to like grammar school with that we've known 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:13.680 each other since we're eleven years old, you know, and 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:14.880 they're just normal people. 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.160 They're not out here like always jealous of stories like that. 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:20.920 I ain't got nobody from my grammar school years. College 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:21.920 is where I kind of pick up. 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.680 Yeah yeah, I mean like there's just you know, my 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:26.960 family is still just sees Janie. 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:27.240 You know. 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:30.360 My partner didn't even know like what I did when 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.200 we first met, and he's still like, Okay, that's cool, 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.040 but like that's not why I'm with you, you know. 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:39.920 So there's just like so many reminders that our identities 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.000 as entrepreneurs and as creators. 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:43.560 That's just like one small sliver. 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.680 And I think the best way that I do or 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:48.560 the best way that I can stay grounded, is just 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.160 not letting that consume me and not letting that be 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:54.080 the focus of all of my energy, because you know, 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.840 at the end of the day, like they say, nobody 0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:00.400 writes your title on your tombstone. You know, that's not 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.320 why people remember you. It's about the impact that you had, 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:04.840 the time that you poured into the people that you 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.440 care about. So that has to be the focus because 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:09.280 what was it all for at the end of the day. 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.640 So what is it that makes your life outside of 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:16.200 like work and the online grind and this book tour? 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.320 What are you doing that is feeding you back? 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:22.360 Well, I'm definitely involving my family in like a big 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:25.520 part of this journey. So my sister is actually going 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:29.560 to moderate my talk in Tampa. My dad's going to 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.640 be going with me to WNYC Studios to like watch 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:33.640 me do an interview. 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:35.760 My mom's going to be coming on the book tour. 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:37.960 So just like the fact that I get to share 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:40.560 what I'm doing with them in a way that you know, 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:42.040 they say it online and stuff, but they don't get 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.880 to experience it on that level. I'm really excited to 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:48.240 just bring them into my world because they've been the 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:49.160 biggest support. 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:50.480 You know, even though they thought it. 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.720 Was nuts, they also have just understood that, like I 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.920 had a vision and to trust me with it. So 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:00.680 I'm super excited about that. And also just like putting 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.960 some downtime in, you know, like taking vacations. And I'm 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.440 also not putting pressure on myself to like achieve some 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.760 sort of metric when it comes to business. You know, 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:15.760 I don't have this this like insatiable hunger to continuously 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.840 scale and to get on the New York Times bestseller 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.920 list and all these things. I'm just like whatever is 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.360 meant to be will be. And just the fact that 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:28.400 I get to do this incredible work, which is not 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:31.240 even work. It's just like ridiculous that I even get 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.560 to just talk about money and connect with people and 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.920 call this a career. Like I'm so grateful for that 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:41.520 that anything else that comes out of it, accolades, titles, opportunities, 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:43.600 blah bla blah whatever, that's just bonus. 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:46.600 But that's never my focus. Heyba fan, We're going to 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:48.800 take a quick break and be right back with more 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:54.920 with Denise Torres. I'm so happy, So I mean maybe 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.400 I sort of knew I was going to be speaking 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:59.480 to you, and I started thinking about we don't have 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:01.360 guests at time on the show, but we have had 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.320 some guests where and I'm always like, dang it, I 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.520 don't know if that was the bright person, only because 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:08.480 I really want to be careful with who we share 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:10.600 our audience with, because I want people to be learning 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:14.120 and engaging with people who have sort of their eye 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:17.120 on the big picture, like people who can still go 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:21.639 outside and appreciate the sunshine and appreciate the little things 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:25.320 and human connection and are not chasing a huge goal 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.360 and chasing numbers and accolades. Like you said. Those things 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:31.200 are incredible and they will come. But I just love 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:34.240 the mindset that you have. And I'm reminded again why 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:37.199 I was like, Deanie, we must be from because you 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.760 just are someone who gets it and at least gets 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.960 it on a level that I also get it. Where 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.960 for me, it's I love what we get to do. 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:48.879 It's fun. It doesn't feel like work unless you start 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.840 being tied to the algorithm and then it is a job. 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.400 But getting to sort of show up authentically and share 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:59.040 little nuggets has been working, and so and I was 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.080 kind of talking to Tiffany this morning, and by the way, 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:03.760 she's sorry, she's actually in Florida. Oh good for her, 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:09.520 can't be with us today anyhow. But yeah, I was 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:11.879 talking to her and I was like, yeah, I remember 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.639 this guest, and they just felt like they felt like 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:16.399 they weren't enjoying any of it. They were going on 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:19.040 this book tour and they were talking about it as 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:21.320 if it was like a huge drag. But then I'm 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:23.160 hearing you and I was like, well, dang, I would 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:25.639 love to be able to like get a crowd at 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.160 a huge venue, you know, just to talk about your book. 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:31.240 Are you kidding me? Like, that's that's the dream. But 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.680 it wasn't, you know, for them, it wasn't where their 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:38.000 goal posts were, which is which is fine and fair. 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.159 But for me, what I'm craving is I feel like 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:44.080 what you're craving. And especially as I am on the 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:46.360 very beginning of my book journey, it feels like I've 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:49.320 been on the very beginning for a long time. It's 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:51.800 great to have an example to look at of, oh, 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:54.480 you're actually not driving yourself that shit crazy, you know, 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.560 and trying to get on the bestseller lists and all that. Yeah, 0:18:57.600 --> 0:18:59.000 I mean, like what's the point. 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:02.359 And I think so many people fall victim to like 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.560 wanting to live out somebody else's version of success because 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:07.840 that's just what they think they should want. And that's 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:09.520 something that I touch on in the book. Is just 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:13.600 this idea of all those things that are on your checklist, 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:16.880 like who put them on there? Is it your family, 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:20.879 your community, your friends, Like who's influencing the decisions that 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:22.960 you make when it comes to your career and how 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:25.880 you spend your money and the things that you prioritize, 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:28.240 you know. I know for me, I had a lot 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:30.480 of these things on my checklist that now looking back, 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:32.200 I'm like, I didn't even put this stuff on here. 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:34.760 This was just projected onto me, like I need to 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:36.960 go become an engineer because that's going to make me 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:39.199 a lot of money. I never asked myself like, is 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:40.520 that actually what you want to do? Is that going 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:42.560 to make you happy? Are you going to feel fulfilled 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:45.800 by this decision? The same thing with home ownership. It 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:49.080 was the pressure of well, you're turning thirty, and this 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:52.040 is just what responsible thirty something year olds do they 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:55.520 buy homes. But then looking back, I realized I don't 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:58.600 even like living in New Jersey at the time, Why 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:00.280 the hell would I buy a house to and be 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:03.480 stuck here, you know. And then it also represented me 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:05.320 having to stay in a career because. 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:06.879 I didn't want to do it. But now I have 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.280 this mortgage. So it's like all these things. 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:12.680 I had to dismantle this belief system about what success 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:15.960 looked like for me financially and be okay with like 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:17.359 disappointing a lot of people. 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:22.400 And that's hard, especially when they are the people who 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:25.919 I don't know, maybe before the Internet. I mean, I 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:28.000 think we were around long enough before the Internet, Like 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:30.760 we're the generation we built it, y'all. Okay, we really 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.679