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<v Speaker 1>Google releases a new pixel, but it's not the one.

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<v Speaker 1>How to store a digital vaccine card on your smartphone,

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<v Speaker 1>Say goodbye to the magnetic strip on your credit or

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<v Speaker 1>debit card. Plus your tech questions answered? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Rich Demiro and this is Rich on Tech, the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast where I talk about the tech stuff I think

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<v Speaker 1>you should know about. It is also the place where

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<v Speaker 1>I answer the questions you send me. I'm the tech

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<v Speaker 1>reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. Thanks so

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<v Speaker 1>much for tuning me in. Welcome to the folks listening

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<v Speaker 1>on Facebook Live with their rooms feature, which I love.

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<v Speaker 2>It's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't always show up in my app. Sometimes when

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<v Speaker 1>I open the app, it's there, other times it's not there.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a fun way to reach a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people that may not listen to the podcast per se,

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<v Speaker 1>but then they get to see it on my Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>page and they say, hey, what's that? Let me let

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<v Speaker 1>me tune in and let me listen, and sure enough

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<v Speaker 1>they stick around sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's see what's been going on this week? Hm?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my mom was in town for so long that

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like I was on vacation in my own city.

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<v Speaker 2>We were you know, going out to eat.

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<v Speaker 1>We were staying out late, we were looking at sites,

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<v Speaker 1>we were going places. I'm sure you do this when

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<v Speaker 1>people come to visit you, but it's really interesting how

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<v Speaker 1>much there is to do that you just don't do

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<v Speaker 1>or you take for granted. Like we went to the beach,

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<v Speaker 1>we went to Malibu, we went to different restaurants. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to shout out my friend Brian Tong for okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm not a lobster person.

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<v Speaker 2>I've only had it like once in my.

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<v Speaker 1>Life, and I thought it was okay, but I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>consider myself like I don't really seek it out ever.

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<v Speaker 2>I know people go wild over lobster.

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<v Speaker 1>So my mom, which came out here, said the only

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<v Speaker 1>two things I want are fish tacos and a lobster role.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, all right, well, we're in California. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure we can find those things.

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<v Speaker 2>So fish tacos.

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<v Speaker 1>We found this little place that was a little hole

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<v Speaker 1>in the wall. Oh gosh, I can't remember the name,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was really it was really good and it

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<v Speaker 1>was just a little tiny hole in the wall. We

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<v Speaker 1>went there off a yelp and it turned out to

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<v Speaker 1>be fantastic. Giant portions.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I'm browsing Instagram and I see my friend Brian Tong,

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<v Speaker 1>you know who covers technology.

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<v Speaker 2>He posted about this place.

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<v Speaker 1>He went to in Malibu that was I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was called.

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<v Speaker 2>Broad Street Seafood.

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<v Speaker 1>Or something like that, and it was a lobster roll

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh, lobster roll in California, in Los Angeles, okay, So.

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<v Speaker 2>I texted him. I said, Brian, is this place legit

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<v Speaker 2>or what?

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, absolutely, So my mom and I go and

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<v Speaker 1>she gets the lobster roll. I get some fish tacos,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will tell you I had one little bite

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<v Speaker 1>of the lobster from her role, and oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I am a convert. Oh wow, it was so good.

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<v Speaker 1>It was basically just like something anything doused in butter

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<v Speaker 1>is really really good and that's it just tasted like

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<v Speaker 1>a butter soaked piece of fish, not even I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't really a fishy, but anyway, it was so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I feel like I have to go back for

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<v Speaker 2>a lobsterole. So it was great. We had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I've also been testing out the Galaxy foldable phones all

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<v Speaker 1>this week. Don't quite have my review just yet. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's one of these things where I love

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that Samsung is trying new things and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to love one of these phones and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to use one of them like forever, but I just can't.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's too many downsides for me. Like with the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger one, I just love that giant screen in the fold.

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<v Speaker 1>When you open it up, it's like having a tablet.

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<v Speaker 1>You can use it as a kindle, you can read books.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just have this like this romanticized version of myself,

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<v Speaker 1>like just pulling this phone out and like using it

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<v Speaker 1>for all kinds of cool things. But the reality is

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<v Speaker 1>it's big and it's bulky, and it's just it's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think it's ready for primetime just yet.

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<v Speaker 1>And the little flip phone is really cool, but the

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<v Speaker 1>cameras just aren't there and so and also you got

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<v Speaker 1>to flip it open every time, which back in the

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<v Speaker 1>day was really easy because you could do it with

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<v Speaker 1>one hand and it was a motorol eraser and it

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<v Speaker 1>was simple and it was lightweight. This is way more

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<v Speaker 1>complicated to open, to flip open every time you need

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<v Speaker 1>to use it. And yeah, they made the outer screen bigger,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's still not where it needs to be to

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<v Speaker 1>actually accomplish anything. So to do anything on this phone,

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<v Speaker 1>you still want to open the phone. So it's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of these things where I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my reviews will be good of these devices, I just

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<v Speaker 1>can't really recommend the average person to get them just yet. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you just want a cool flip phone and you're

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<v Speaker 1>not like a power user, the Flip is kind of cool,

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<v Speaker 1>but the price is still pretty high for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everyday person, like most of the people that text me

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<v Speaker 1>or email me or looking for a phone closer to

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<v Speaker 1>the five hundred range.

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<v Speaker 2>And so.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that goes right into my first story. Google

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<v Speaker 1>released a new pixel. It's not the pixel that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for, you know, I'm waiting for the Pixel six,

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<v Speaker 1>And mark my words, I will switch to the Pixel

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<v Speaker 1>six from the iPhone if it's any good. And by

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<v Speaker 1>any good, I mean they get the processor right, they

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<v Speaker 1>get the memory right, they get the storage right, they

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<v Speaker 1>get the screen right, they get the cameras right, which

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<v Speaker 1>they usually do, and they get kind of like the overall,

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<v Speaker 1>the overall package right. Like the pixel is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best cameras out there, but it's just every year,

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<v Speaker 1>like the package is like, ugh, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A little damaged. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like getting a box from Amazon that's just like

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<v Speaker 1>dented in on one side and you're like, ah, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't really like, I can't accept this package the.

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<v Speaker 2>Way it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So the new Pixel five A with five G say

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<v Speaker 1>that five times fast. They call it the latest A

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<v Speaker 1>series Pixel phone. So I was talking to my brother

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<v Speaker 1>about this and he's like, what does the A mean?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, well, I think it's just a.

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<v Speaker 2>Delineation that it's not as high powered.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's confusing because you're gonna have the Pixel six

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<v Speaker 1>come out, so you've got the Pixel five A and

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<v Speaker 1>then the six. So I guess that makes kind of sense,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. Anyway, the phone's gonna arrive in

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<v Speaker 1>August twenty sixth. It's a IP sixty seven water resistant.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just go.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's basically the Pixel four A five G

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<v Speaker 1>with a couple of little upgrades. Okay, the forur A

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<v Speaker 1>does not have water resistance. The for A, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess they're getting rid of.

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<v Speaker 2>The four A five G. This is so confusing, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's got a good battery.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got a forty six hundred eighty milliamp hour battery.

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<v Speaker 2>That is huge. I mean that is really really large.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, the memory is six gigabytes a RAM, which I

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<v Speaker 1>just wish they would stop scrimping on the RAM on

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<v Speaker 1>these Android phones and just put in you gotta do

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<v Speaker 1>minimum eight twelve is way better. So it's got six.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got one hundred and twenty eight gigs of storage,

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<v Speaker 1>which is fine. It's got a dual SIM it's got

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<v Speaker 1>a six point three inch full HD plus O lead

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<v Speaker 1>does not have the high refresh rate screen. It's got

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<v Speaker 1>all the camera features you need. It's got the rear cameras.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got a dual a twelve megapixel camera and an

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<v Speaker 1>ultra wide sixteen megapixel.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is fine.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be nice to have a telephoto lens in

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<v Speaker 1>there as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't get that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got that slower Qualcom Snapdragon processor, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven sixty five g boring.

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<v Speaker 1>But it does have a audio jack, which is really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would say, honestly, sight on scene, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I was not on the list of Google sent this

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<v Speaker 1>phone to pretty much anyone with a with a pulse

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<v Speaker 1>except me.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did I say something bad about the Pixel.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>They've sent me every Pixel since it ari, since it

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<v Speaker 1>came out, and this year they decide now we're just

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<v Speaker 1>not going to tell Rich about this. So every single influencer,

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<v Speaker 1>every blogger, everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Was tweeting, oh got my free gift from Google.

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<v Speaker 1>And someone like myself, who my audience is actually really

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<v Speaker 1>interested in this phone, they did not contact me to

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<v Speaker 1>get me this phone to reach. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>the deal is. I mean, Google, I thought we had

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<v Speaker 1>a good relationship. I guess not so anyway, sight on scene. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>this is probably one of the phones I will recommend

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<v Speaker 1>the most this year to the average person. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason I recommend this phone is because it is so simple.

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<v Speaker 1>It has all the features you need. And if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not a wild power user like you need the best,

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<v Speaker 1>the best, the best, the highest specs, the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Ram, the best screen.

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<v Speaker 1>If you just want a phone that you can pull

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<v Speaker 1>out of your pocket, make phone calls on surf the web,

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<v Speaker 1>look at Instagram, take amazing pictures on have great battery life.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be the Pixel five A with five G

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's the bottom line. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>this phone is four hundred and forty nine dollars. That

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<v Speaker 1>is a fantastic price. Under five hundred dollars. You buy it,

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<v Speaker 1>you get it. It works, it's gonna last for minimum

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<v Speaker 1>three years, and it's It's not the fastest phone in

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<v Speaker 1>the world.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the sexiest phone in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>But guess what it does what you need it to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And for that reason, I really like this phone. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not the Pixel six that someone like me, who is

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<v Speaker 1>a phone sort of power hungry phone nerd needs. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a phone for the everyday person and it you know, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you might say, rich, why not recommend a Samsung? Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the samsungs are fine, but they've they're so busy, They've

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<v Speaker 1>got so much going on that unless you're a Samsung person,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't necessarily need all the things that Samsung has

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<v Speaker 1>going on. I think the Pixel five A is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be just fine for a lot of people. So

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that I end up getting my hands on

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<v Speaker 1>one of these. But honestly, I'm buying the Pixel six

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what, so I will I will get that, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course I'll talk about that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get to the first question of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see, Ivory says rich, due to the price of

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<v Speaker 1>Adobe Acrobat Pro twenty twenty, what product do you recommend

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<v Speaker 1>that performs similar functions for a Windows ten machine. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Adobe Acrobat Pro.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty is wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it really four hundred and fifty dollars? WHOA, that

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see. So what does it do?

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<v Speaker 1>So it's basically the ability to create PDFs. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>us are just either printing out a page that is

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<v Speaker 1>a PDF, or we're filling in a PDF, or we're

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<v Speaker 1>working with PDFs, or we're converting something to PDFs, all

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<v Speaker 1>things that you can pretty much do for free. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to create and like really modify PDFs,

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<v Speaker 1>like if your business driven, you need something like Adobe

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<v Speaker 1>Acrobat Pro. And so what this does is it lets you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fill in forms, create and combined PDFs, send

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<v Speaker 1>documents with your for signature, send track and confirmed delivery,

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<v Speaker 1>add or edit text, reorder, delete or rotate pages. And

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<v Speaker 1>you also what's new I don't know anyway, So this

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<v Speaker 1>just this is like a This is like Microsoft Word

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<v Speaker 1>but for PDFs. So if you need that, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to pay for that. Now from what I'm seeing,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like it's about four hundred and fifty dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a lot of money. So Ivory if you

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<v Speaker 1>want an alternative, The only real product that I know

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<v Speaker 1>is from fox It software Foxit, and they have a

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<v Speaker 1>PDF editor that is not free. You know, you get

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<v Speaker 1>a free trial, but if you want to actually purchase it,

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<v Speaker 1>you do need to pay.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if you want.

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<v Speaker 1>The regular PDF editor, there's two versions. There's the PDF

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<v Speaker 1>editor and then there's the pro. So the regular one

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be one hundred and fifty nine dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>The pro is one hundred and ninety nine dollars, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's a one time fee.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Something that's less than half the price of Adobe, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>This is it, this is fox It.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have not truly played with this software enough

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<v Speaker 1>to give you a really good explanation of it versus

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<v Speaker 1>the Adobe software. And I assume Adobe is the leader.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got the brand name. There might also be a

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<v Speaker 1>circumstance where you can subscribe to the Adobe software and

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<v Speaker 1>get it for less every month, So that might be

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<v Speaker 1>another thing to look into. If you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do fox it and fox it. You know, it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be fine. I don't know the exact features that

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<v Speaker 1>you need.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you. Let's see did Ivory. Let's see did Ivory

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<v Speaker 2>write what features she needed? Let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, here we go, password protection, combine several documents into

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<v Speaker 1>one search, convert pdf into word, and vice versa. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I think that the fox at one is

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<v Speaker 1>probably going to do those things. Those are pretty basic functionality.

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<v Speaker 1>The convert PDF into word you can actually do with

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<v Speaker 1>with Google Docs for free. So if you just upload

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<v Speaker 1>a pdf into Google Docs, there's functionality that it will

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<v Speaker 1>be used to. Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done that before. It might not be pretty, the

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<v Speaker 1>conversion might not be pretty, but it will definitely do

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<v Speaker 1>something similar to that. All right, good question, good question,

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<v Speaker 1>good question.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's talk.

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<v Speaker 1>About the big story of the week, a cyber attack

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<v Speaker 1>on T Mobile. So these cyber attacks are really getting

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<v Speaker 1>gnarly because it's no longer because these companies have become

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<v Speaker 1>such mega corporations with millions and millions and millions of

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<v Speaker 1>customers and tons of data. Every time we hear about

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<v Speaker 1>one of these major hacks. They just get bigger and bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>And this T Mobile one is pretty scary because what

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<v Speaker 1>happened is they got a lot of stuff seven point

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<v Speaker 1>eight million current T mobile customers, includes first and last names, data, birth,

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<v Speaker 1>social security number, social security numbers, I say, social number,

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<v Speaker 1>driver's license. Those are all the things that you need

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<v Speaker 1>to steal someone's identity.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>They also determined that phone numbers as well as your Imei,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the number that oh my gosh, that identifies

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<v Speaker 1>your smartphone, was also compromised. Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>This is unbelievable. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>They also identified another five point three million customers that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have social security numbers or driver's licenses on their accounts,

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<v Speaker 1>but they still were impacted. So this number just continues

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<v Speaker 1>to grow. By the way, there was also forty million

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<v Speaker 1>former or prospective T mobile customers who had their oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, this is just wild who had their information taken.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically you're talking forty eight million plus another five

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<v Speaker 1>so you're talking over fifty million people. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>major buzzer alert for T Mobile.

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<v Speaker 2>And and I mean, look, what are you gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna are you gonna cancel T Mobile? Probably not

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<v Speaker 1>are you gonna switch to AT and T or Verizon?

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<v Speaker 1>It could have happened to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the deal is with T Mobile

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<v Speaker 1>systems how this happened. Uh, But you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>one of these things that leaves a really bad taste

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<v Speaker 1>in your mouth because this is your highly personal information

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<v Speaker 1>that is now floating around on the internet. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking floating around. I had a T Mobile account at

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<v Speaker 1>one time, and I'm wondering if mine is part of this.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean five point eight forty million customers former customers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>basically this is my information as well. So I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>angry here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>T Mobile says none of the information included financial, credit card,

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<v Speaker 1>debit or other payment. Well, who cares about that? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>don't use your bank account to pay bills, Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>number one. At least put a debit or credit card

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<v Speaker 1>between you now, you know, if you listen to my show.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a huge fan of credit cards because the implications

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Yes, I have one, I try to use

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<v Speaker 1>it sparingly, but I do like the idea that a

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<v Speaker 1>credit card does put a wall between you and your

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<v Speaker 1>bank account. So if T Mobile shares my credit card

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<v Speaker 1>number out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>Let them charge as much as they want on it,

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<v Speaker 1>because guess what, I'm not paying that bill. If it's

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<v Speaker 1>not me making that charge, I don't really care. Let

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<v Speaker 1>let American Express or Capital One or you know these

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<v Speaker 1>Bank of America figure that out. I don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about that debit card. You know, there are limitations

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<v Speaker 1>on your debit card, Like I remember at some point

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<v Speaker 1>it was like a on mine I had.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was like a five hundred dollars limit.

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<v Speaker 1>You can call your bank and ask them what the

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<v Speaker 1>limit is, and you can set like a spend limit

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<v Speaker 1>per day. So if let's say someone got a hold

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<v Speaker 1>of your debit card number, you can actually limit it

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<v Speaker 1>to only authorize like a thousand dollars of purchases a day, which.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's a lot for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I hope I don't spend that much in

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<v Speaker 1>a day, but if you did, you know it would

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<v Speaker 1>cut off. And that's smart because if a hacker did

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<v Speaker 1>get access to your debit card, you know, they can

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<v Speaker 1>only do so much damage before you know you figure

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<v Speaker 1>it out. And yeah, and in the end, with a

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<v Speaker 1>debit card, you'll still probably get your money back. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit more of a headache because it's

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<v Speaker 1>your money that's going out and now you have to

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<v Speaker 1>get that money back.

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<v Speaker 2>So banks, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The way that these cards work is that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if I use my debit card at Target, let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, something happens or it's fraudulent whatever, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Target doesn't get that money from my bank immediately. They

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<v Speaker 1>get it on like a thirty day rolling basis. So

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<v Speaker 1>if something goes wrong the bank, you know, let's say

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<v Speaker 1>it's Bank of America, they just say, oh, Target, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, we're not giving you that thirty three dollars

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<v Speaker 1>that rich spent there because that's being contested. And until

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<v Speaker 1>that money actually clears the system and everyone agrees that

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<v Speaker 1>the transaction was legit, then they'll get that money.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's how that works.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not like, you know, they get the money immediately. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's cash, yeah, it's it's gone. It's out of

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<v Speaker 1>your pocket and it's gone. If it's you know, any

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<v Speaker 1>other way to pay.

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<v Speaker 2>That, that's like immediate.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it's a debit card or a credit card,

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<v Speaker 1>they pretty much you know, have to wait for that

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<v Speaker 1>money to clear from the bank. All right, what else

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<v Speaker 1>do we need to know? So what is T Mobile

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<v Speaker 1>doing about this? They're giving people two years of free

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<v Speaker 1>identity services, identity protection from mcaffee or McAfee McAfee.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's a big deal. I mean, sign up for

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<v Speaker 2>that for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>T Mobile customers should sign up for the free scam

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<v Speaker 1>call blocking. Oh okay, let me block those scam calls.

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<v Speaker 1>They also tell customers that they should reset their pin

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<v Speaker 1>numbers on their account.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh. Interesting, they change their little website. Huh, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>They said to.

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<v Speaker 1>Activate account takeover protection, which I would definitely do. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's just one of these things. It's kind of a nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, it's out there, it's done. There's not

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<v Speaker 1>much you can do about it. It's it's just really

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunate that that happened. But my biggest advice is to

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<v Speaker 1>not share. Just limit how much personal data you share.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I mentioned this in the podcast last week,

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<v Speaker 1>but limit how much data you share. That is the

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<v Speaker 1>number one thing you can do is just try to

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<v Speaker 1>keep it, you know, keep yourself from you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>anytime someone asks you for something, think about, do I

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<v Speaker 1>really really need to share this information?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you know.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll ask anyone's welcome to ask for anything, and unless

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<v Speaker 1>they you know, they push you. Or there's that little

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<v Speaker 1>asterisk next to it on a website that says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're using this, you got to put in your

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<v Speaker 1>email address, your date of birth or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes I even fake it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put in a fake data birth. It's a random website.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do they need to know my actual data birth? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>no way, I'll just put a fake one in there.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, as long as there's nothing, no harm,

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<v Speaker 1>no foul, like, they don't need to really know anything

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<v Speaker 1>about me, all right. Next question comes from Christopher. Christopher says,

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<v Speaker 1>good morning. My boys are starting to walk to school.

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<v Speaker 1>Now is there an inexpensive way to track them? I've

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<v Speaker 1>been looking at AirTag and tyle, but I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>see what you thought. Thanks well, thank you Christopher for

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<v Speaker 1>inspiring a segment on KTLA. Future segment, I will be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about some of these things that I think parents

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<v Speaker 1>should look at for tracking their kids. So you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>the AirTag, and the AirTag is probably the first solution

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<v Speaker 1>that comes to mind for most people because it's, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a tracker. It's twenty nine bucks. It works with

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<v Speaker 1>my iPhone, and yeah, it's great.

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<v Speaker 2>It does work. It does what it says it does.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have to remember this is not meant for

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<v Speaker 1>people or pets. Now, that does not mean that people

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<v Speaker 1>are not using it for people in pets, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can there's no law against it. But if you use

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<v Speaker 1>an air tag to track your kid, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>know the limitations of the air tag. The air tag

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<v Speaker 1>is just a battery with a Bluetooth beacon on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's it. And so what it does is it

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<v Speaker 1>actually uses nearby Apple products to get its Internet connection

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<v Speaker 1>and then share that location, you know, or share its

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<v Speaker 1>location with the network. And so the good news is

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of iPhones around, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Mac computers, there's a lot of iPads, and as long

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<v Speaker 1>as one of those is nearby, it's gonna, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>update this little device and you're gonna see the location

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<v Speaker 1>on the find my app on your iPhone.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you have to remember the updates may not be

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<v Speaker 1>in real time, so you can see if your child is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at school, you can see where they are

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<v Speaker 1>at any given time as long as the air tag

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<v Speaker 1>has gotten a fresh connection or a recent fresh connection

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<v Speaker 1>to the internet using you know, a nearby device, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that's that's the simplest, cheapest, easiest way. But again

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<v Speaker 1>you need to know that it's not real time.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want real time again, you've got T Mobile

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<v Speaker 1>sync Up Tracker. This is a tracker that actually has

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<v Speaker 1>a cellular connection and GPS built in. Now, it's not

0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:12.840
<v Speaker 1>meant for kids again, but it can work for them

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<v Speaker 1>because you can put it on their backpack and you

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<v Speaker 1>can get real time tracking. You can check in at

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<v Speaker 1>anytime and it will actually connect to the Internet itself.

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<v Speaker 1>It connects to the T Mobile network and then you

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<v Speaker 1>can also get boundary alerts, so you can set a

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<v Speaker 1>boundary around your kids school and as soon as they

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<v Speaker 1>enter that boundary, you will get an alert to your

0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:32.159
<v Speaker 1>phone that they have entered, or you can do an

0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:35.960
<v Speaker 1>exit boundary as well. The battery lasts an average of

0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:37.760
<v Speaker 1>three to four DA's, so you're gonna have to charge

0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:40.400
<v Speaker 1>this thing pretty frequently, as opposed to the air tag,

0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:44.360
<v Speaker 1>which is like once a year. The T Mobile sync

0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Up is also sixty dollars plus five dollars a month

0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:49.840
<v Speaker 1>for service, so that costs money, but you're gonna get

0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:52.639
<v Speaker 1>more accurate reporting. Now, if you want something that was

0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:56.720
<v Speaker 1>made specifically for tracking kids, check out the geobit. This

0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:59.720
<v Speaker 1>is a monitor. I met with the I think it

0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:01.680
<v Speaker 1>was the founder of the company at CS a couple

0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:05.359
<v Speaker 1>of years ago, and he said, it's great for elderly folks,

0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:06.479
<v Speaker 1>it's great for kids.

0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:08.880
<v Speaker 2>You know. You has a.

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<v Speaker 1>Built in again, built in GPS, built in cellular. But

0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:15.879
<v Speaker 1>the magic here is that they optimized the software for

0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:19.640
<v Speaker 1>tracking kids. So that's like the main difference is that

0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the software was written specifically with tracking

0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:25.560
<v Speaker 1>kids in mind, so you can see real time GPS

0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:29.000
<v Speaker 1>location history, and like I mentioned earlier, the alerts when

0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:32.879
<v Speaker 1>they arrive or leave trusted places. Now this is a

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:35.800
<v Speaker 1>little more expensive. It's one hundred and thirty dollars plus.

0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:38.239
<v Speaker 1>The service starts at nine dollars a month. And by

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:40.400
<v Speaker 1>the way, when I say nine dollars a month, that's

0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:42.520
<v Speaker 1>if you you know, do like a three year.

0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Contract or a two year contract.

0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:46.160
<v Speaker 1>If you're paying by the month, all of these things

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:48.359
<v Speaker 1>are a little bit more expensive, like fifteen a month.

0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:52.159
<v Speaker 1>Next up is gab Watch. Gabb and I have not

0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 1>tested the gab watch, but I did meet with this

0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:59.359
<v Speaker 1>try another product from gab and they're basically a company

0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:03.560
<v Speaker 1>that's making like inexpensive unlocked wireless products that are just

0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:06.399
<v Speaker 1>pretty easy to use. So this watch is one hundred dollars,

0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 1>but it's a smart watch, and yeah it's no Apple Watch,

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:11.560
<v Speaker 1>but it's gonna let your kids make phone calls. They

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:14.080
<v Speaker 1>can text, but just to the contacts that you allow.

0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 1>There's an emergency SOS feature, there's a fun little digital

0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:20.440
<v Speaker 1>pet they can play with, and there's a step counter

0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:23.359
<v Speaker 1>as well. This service starts at ten dollars a month.

0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:26.920
<v Speaker 2>And finally, if you want like.

0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Sort of the most thorough solution, the Apple Watch with

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:35.720
<v Speaker 1>cellular can can really be the best solution, especially if

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:39.160
<v Speaker 1>you're looking for a bridge for your kids to have

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:42.760
<v Speaker 1>one of these tracker solutions but not have a full

0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:47.960
<v Speaker 1>fledged smartphone. So the Apple Watch, they introduce this feature

0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 1>called Family Setup, and so this means you can you know,

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:54.440
<v Speaker 1>typically an Apple Watch always required an iPhone to work,

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:55.879
<v Speaker 1>so you had to have an iPhone, you had to

0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:58.320
<v Speaker 1>activate it on your account, they had to work in Unison.

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Now they have this thing called Family set Up, where

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:02.000
<v Speaker 1>as long as you have an iPhone or I think

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 1>an iPad as well. You can just activate an Apple Watch,

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:06.679
<v Speaker 1>and once you do, it'll just live on its own.

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:08.920
<v Speaker 1>It just does its own thing. And there's two ways

0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 1>you can do it. It can live on its own

0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 1>which is Wi Fi, but if you want to use

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 1>the family setup feature, you have to use a cellular connection,

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and so that means you have to get the price

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:24.879
<v Speaker 1>her Apple Watch with the cellular connection. The cheapest is

0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:28.880
<v Speaker 1>the Apple Watch se with cellular that's gonna be about

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:30.360
<v Speaker 1>three hundred and thirty bucks.

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:32.120
<v Speaker 2>But this can do everything.

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.239
<v Speaker 1>You can make calls, it can track your kid, they

0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 1>can set them texts including I messages, you can they

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 1>can fully track their activity. They can listen to music

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:44.080
<v Speaker 1>on this thing. There's all kinds of apps on it.

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:45.879
<v Speaker 1>So I mean it's an Apple Watch. It's gonna be,

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:49.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, the gold standard of smart watches. And they

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:53.440
<v Speaker 1>have this cool classroom watch face which is less distracting

0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 1>and I don't believe that the messages come through when

0:25:57.200 --> 0:25:59.959
<v Speaker 1>they're in the classroom function, so you can have that

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<v Speaker 1>turn on a certain time and turn off at a

0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:03.120
<v Speaker 1>certain time during the day.

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:04.919
<v Speaker 2>So that's a really cool feature.

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 1>This is gonna be, Like I said, you gotta go

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 1>with the Apple Watch s with cellular, or you can

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 1>go Apple Watch four with cellular and above, and I

0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:18.639
<v Speaker 1>believe it's the four and it's three hundred and thirty bucks.

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, service runs about ten dollars a month.

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:23.280
<v Speaker 2>Apple Watch.

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Let me just see Apple Watch family set up. Let

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 1>me just see what it requires, because I think it

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:33.359
<v Speaker 1>was the Apple Watch for yeah, Apple Watch series four

0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 1>or later with cellular or Apple Watch.

0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Se with cellular.

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 1>So if you have an old Apple Watch like you're,

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:40.719
<v Speaker 1>but you have to have cellular on it for this

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 1>to really work. I mean, you can activate it without cellular,

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.639
<v Speaker 1>but it's just not gonna You're not gonna get the

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 1>features that you need without cellular. So I wouldn't even

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 1>bother if you didn't have cellular, because honestly, it's gonna

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:54.959
<v Speaker 1>be such a nightmare that sometimes you can get through

0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:57.639
<v Speaker 1>to your kid. Sometimes you'd be able to see where

0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:00.399
<v Speaker 1>their location is, and other times you wouldn't, based on

0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:02.639
<v Speaker 1>whether this thing can find a Wi Fi signal and

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.359
<v Speaker 1>also be connected to that Wi Fi signal. So for

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 1>that reason, I would definitely not go the Apple Watch

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 1>route unless you're prepared to do the cellular plan and

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 1>get the cellular model. Otherwise, I mean, unless they're just

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 1>using it in the house or something, that's the best.

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Way to do it.

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 1>All right, long answer, but good question, Chris, and thanks

0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:27.119
<v Speaker 1>for the segment. Watch for it on KTLA soon. All right,

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:30.120
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about Okay, we've all been on Zoom for

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, a year and a half. I wonder what

0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 1>the numbers are like on Zoom at this point, Like

0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 1>they must be so much lower than last year, because

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 1>so many kids are back in school and so many

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 1>people are back at work. Even though you know, it's

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 1>still this virus or whatever, COVID is still just wrecking

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:49.960
<v Speaker 1>havoc on our world. It's so wild that it just

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:56.959
<v Speaker 1>keeps going. But this this idea of a virtual reality

0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:01.439
<v Speaker 1>meeting room, this is what face Book has introduced with

0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 1>their new Horizon Workrooms through their Oculus brand. So Oculus,

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:09.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, is their virtual reality headset and brand, and

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.640
<v Speaker 1>so they introduce this thing called Horizon Workrooms, which are

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 1>free virtual meeting rooms. And I think this is so

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 1>so cool, but I don't see it taking off in

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:24.360
<v Speaker 1>a huge way just yet. But I totally think it's amazing.

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 1>And so what is it. It's a virtual meeting room.

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:29.960
<v Speaker 1>You put your headset on and you get into this

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 1>room with your colleagues and now you can see each

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 1>other as an avatar. You can pick the room that

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:36.719
<v Speaker 1>you want to meet in, so they've all got all

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 1>kinds of fun rooms. The rooms get bigger and smaller

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>depending on how many people are in there. This can

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 1>support up to sixteen people in VR, up to fifty total,

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>because not everyone has a VR headset in fact, like

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 1>nobody does, so you know, you might have one person that's.

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Like, can we please do the meeting in a VR please.

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 1>And everyone else like, uh okay, I mean no one

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>else has VR, but sure you can do VR rich

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll just call in so you can do that.

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 1>But they've got all kinds of neat features that you

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 1>would need in a meeting, like you know, your desk

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 1>and keyboard tracking so you can kind of do mixed

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>reality where you can when you're typing on your keyboard,

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 1>other people will see that. They've got hand tracking, so

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>you can actually write on like a whiteboard. They've got

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>your desktop or so you can actually show share your screen.

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>They've got all spatial audio, which is really cool too,

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>because spatial audio is allows you to hear people, and

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:34.239
<v Speaker 1>like let's say I'm sitting here at my desk and

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>i hear someone that's talking on my left, the audio

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 1>sounds like it's coming from the left.

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 2>That's what spatial audio is.

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 1>And we're seeing more and more of this, and I'll

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>have another story about that in a moment.

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 2>But it's just it's such.

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 1>A cool feeling because it literally feels like the person

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>is where they look like they are, if that makes sense.

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 2>So you've got spatial audio, you've got.

0:29:56.440 --> 0:30:00.080
<v Speaker 1>The virtual whiteboards, you can actually draw in VR and

0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 1>you can and you know, keep that and save whatever

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 1>you do. You've got all kinds of different virtual rooms.

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just everything you need to actually have

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 1>these meetings in the virtual world. But again, like I said,

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be really really tricky to take off,

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>because let's be honest. I mean, think about a meeting

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 1>that you have at your office. When you had meetings,

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's basically a bare bones conference room. You know,

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 1>people are on their phones, they're distracted, they get in there,

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 1>they're sitting on their laptops. Like it's not this like

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>idealized vision of the future where everyone's like okay, let

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 1>me strap on my headset.

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 2>And let's get to this meeting.

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Like even with Zoom meetings, I'm always like a couple

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>minutes late. I'm just plugging in my headphones, like I'm

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 1>literally adjusting like which input and output for my speakers,

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 1>or like my Bluetooth isn't working, Like it's a mess, right,

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Like we're lucky that we actually can, you know, do

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 1>some of these meetings and make them, and then you

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 1>know people are sick of them. They're you know, let

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:02.440
<v Speaker 1>me go, and they click off so fast that like

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:05.719
<v Speaker 1>you don't even say a bye practically. So to go

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:08.959
<v Speaker 1>from that to a virtual meeting room where everyone has

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 1>an Oculus headset and and they're sitting there like using

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>that Oculus headset and trying to refer to their notes

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>on their computer, I mean, it's it's gonna be pretty wild.

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 1>It's definitely a stretch. But I do see this kind

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 1>of thing taking off in the future because it is cool,

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 1>and I do think a large element of future work

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 1>is going to take place with virtual meetings instead of

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 1>face to face, just because people always want to meet

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>face to face. But I think is as companies can

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 1>save money on travel and people realize they don't necessarily

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 1>need to travel. We will see more of an emphasis

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>on this.

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>The other big thing about this is that you're talking companies, right,

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>And what do you think when you think you're discussing

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>stuff with your company, it's most of the time it's private.

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 2>You don't want this.

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Thing aired anywhere. So you have to wonder, okay, well

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>if this is you know, with Zoom, you know, it

0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>was a big deal when they first came out, like okay,

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>what's where is this stuff traveling through? Is it traveling

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 1>through servers in China? Is it here in America?

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 1>Where where is my stuff going? And you know, that

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>was a big deal when Zoom first kind of came

0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>to fruition, when people started using it a lot, and

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>so they got to the bottom of that and they said, hey,

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, they gave some clear indications of how your

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 1>stuff was being used, how private it was. You know,

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>they introduced end to end encryption, which you know satisfied

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the privacy issues. And so now with Facebook,

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:30.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, we need to know this. They didn't mention

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:33.680
<v Speaker 1>anything about encryption, so they didn't mention that word at

0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 1>all in their blog posts. So that's probably not happening.

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 1>But they did say it's designed to be safe, so

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 1>let's see what they say about safety. So safety and privacy.

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 1>So workrooms will not use your work conversations and material

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 1>to inform ads on Facebook. Okay, sad that they have

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 1>to say that, but yes, that's a consideration. The audio

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 1>contents of your meetings are processed on Facebook servers, but

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>they're not stored, but someone can record them and send

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 1>us a clip as part of a report. In this case,

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 1>we'll use the information to take appropriate action and then.

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Delete the recordings.

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>So that is a very interesting aspect of this is that,

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, think about this idea that these meetings are

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 1>likely to be recorded, and if someone is you know,

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 1>being a little bad in that meeting, or says something

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 1>that's not right, or someone doesn't agree with or whatever,

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>it could be a recording that you know, could not

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 1>only It's just there's a lot of implications of this,

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 1>so we'll see what happens. I think it's really cool. Again,

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 1>it's called Horizon Workrooms. It's from Oculus. I'd love to

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 1>try it out.

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't have an.

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Oculus, but this would this wouldn't be my reason to

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 1>get one, but it's definitely the VR stuff if it

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 1>came along a little bit more. It's so compelling to me.

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I just love virtual reality. There's just not that one

0:33:53.960 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 1>killer application just yet. All Right, Roy has kind of

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>a wow loaded question here. I'm interested in making my

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 1>home more automated with some smart devices. Might you recommend

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>products that work with home Kit for sensors, wall light switches,

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 1>light bulbs, Will light bulbs work by themselves? Or do

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 1>they need a smart plug? Smart plugs, outdoor cameras. Thanks

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 1>for all the time you put into your podcast, Roy, Well, Roy,

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 1>this is quite the question, and I'm gonna try to

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>break it down and explain. Now, home Kit is definitely the.

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 2>What's the word?

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I love the word fledgling, but I don't think that's

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>the right term here. Fledgling means, oh, it is a

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:42.359
<v Speaker 1>person or organization that is immature, inexperienced, or underdeveloped.

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:44.720
<v Speaker 2>So I'm right it is. Home Kit is the.

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Most fledgling of the three sort of standards when it

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 1>comes to smart home. You've got Google, You've got alex A,

0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:00.440
<v Speaker 1>you know Amazon stuff, and you've got home Kit. And

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 1>so with Google you've got basically ninety nine point nine

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>percent of smart home products work with both Google and

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Alexa A. Whoops, Okay, well alex A, so you know

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 1>ninety nine percent of the stuff works with them. Then

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 1>you've got home Kit, and you really got to look

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 1>hard because not too many things work with HomeKit. Now,

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:24.800
<v Speaker 1>if you want to look at home Kit accessories, you

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 1>can go to Apple's website and you can look at

0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Apple dot com, slash iOS, slash Home and they've got

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 1>all the different things, So you can look at all

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 1>the different stuff that works with it.

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 2>It's not that much.

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're talking a video doorbell, You've got Logitech

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Circle light bulbs, You've got Nano Leaf, Logitech cameras, Wemo

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Smart miniplug. So to answer your question, I think that

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>you have to look at some of these brands. So

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I think for your lights, I would go two routes.

0:35:55.719 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I would probably go Hugh Phillips. Hugh the most expense there,

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>but they're also the most flexible. So let's say you

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:05.879
<v Speaker 1>start building this thing out and you say, this home

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Kit stuff is just not doing it for me, Well,

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 1>you can switch to you know, the other two platforms,

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 1>no problem, because Hugh works with all three. So that's

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 1>number one. Number two, what else did you ask about?

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:20.440
<v Speaker 2>You said wall switches.

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 1>So when it comes to sensors and wall switches, I

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>think that you're.

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Gonna have to look at something like a u oh gosh.

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I think you know, like Weemo is gonna be for

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 1>like smart plugs. The wall switches, you're gonna have to

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 1>again go with Hugh. Sensors, You're gonna have to go

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:41.880
<v Speaker 1>with Hugh. Outdoor cameras are a little tricky because there's

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 1>just not that much And if I look at cameras

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>literally on on Apple's website there is the UFI Cameras

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 1>one model, and then Logitech and and oh and eve Eve,

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:00.040
<v Speaker 1>so you just don't get So for my what I

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I've done is I think I really like the the

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:07.360
<v Speaker 1>ring stuff for when it comes to like all around

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the house with cameras and things like that. I like

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 1>the hue when it comes to lights. And that's basically it.

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:16.719
<v Speaker 1>That's what I've built out, and I'm trying to stick

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 1>to those two things because they do work together.

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 2>They work pretty well.

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 1>And the home kit stuff is nice, Like I think

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:26.000
<v Speaker 1>that Apple did a really nice job designing like the

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 1>app and everything and it's built into the iPhone.

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 2>And all that good stuff. It's just not there. It's

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 2>just not like the stuff that you need.

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:34.919
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know what the reasoning is, like why

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:38.120
<v Speaker 1>these companies are so loath to like adopt it.

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 2>I probably think that it's just easier to do the

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:41.320
<v Speaker 2>other two.

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Less licensing, less hoops to jump through, and I just

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 1>think there's so many more products, And if you want

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 1>to go super cheap, you can get like a light

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 1>bulb for like five bucks at Walmart and it still

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 1>works with Google and alex A. So I mean, there's

0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 1>just so many more options when it comes to these

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 1>other platform I think the home Kit stuff is you're

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 1>going down a very narrow path with that. And yes,

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 1>it will get better, but I just think at this point,

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:12.279
<v Speaker 1>stick to Hugh, stick to Ring, and I think that

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:16.399
<v Speaker 1>those two products, those two product lines will really help

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:20.799
<v Speaker 1>you get you know, the most the most varied out

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 1>of you know, like the the most accessories out of

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 1>all the different things you can look for. But anyway, Roy,

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:30.319
<v Speaker 1>good luck with building it out and hopefully you know

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 1>it all works out for you, all right. I talked

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>about spatial audio a little bit ago, and Netflix confirmed

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 1>to I guess users on Reddit and there's a report

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 1>from I Generation. I'm getting this from nine to five Mac.

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 1>But Netflix confirm it's rolling out spatial audio support for

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>iPhone and iPad apps, which is huge. I remember watching

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 1>a movie in with spatial audio and it's just fantastic.

0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's really really cool. Yeah, to have air

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 1>pods pro or max to use it, but again, it

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 1>just means that the audio happens in the area where

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:08.720
<v Speaker 1>you'd expect it to happen.

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 2>So small thing.

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 1>But if you're on you know, i'd say on a plane,

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:13.839
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not even sure you'll be able to hear

0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 1>it on the plane, but I guess you would if

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:16.760
<v Speaker 1>you're with noise canceling.

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 2>But you know, if you're watching a.

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:21.759
<v Speaker 1>Movie or a TV show that supports it, and you've

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:23.799
<v Speaker 1>got it on Netflix, and you've got the iPad or

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:25.799
<v Speaker 1>the iPhone and you've got the air pods and all

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 1>these things are in line, and the stars are also

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>aligned as well.

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 2>No, that's not it.

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I thought I had like a no, okay, I thought

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I had the Princess sound effect, you know, like the

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Fantasy Land. But anyway, if all those things are all

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 1>those things are satisfied, you will hear the spatial audio,

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:48.479
<v Speaker 1>and once you do it is it is actually very cool.

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 1>All right, Since that was such a short story, I'll

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 1>just move on to the next story. This is a

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:58.319
<v Speaker 1>sad day in history. Well, you still got a couple

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:01.600
<v Speaker 1>of years, but the magnetic stripe we'll start to disappear

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:06.319
<v Speaker 1>from cards in twenty twenty four. So Master Card is

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 1>the first bank to say, you know what, we just

0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:11.479
<v Speaker 1>don't need these things anymore now, the magnetic stripe. There's

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 1>some history behind this. I don't know if you're old

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 1>enough to remember this, but back in the day when

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 1>I was a kid and i'd watch my parents use

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 1>their credit card, it was a by the way, it

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:25.360
<v Speaker 1>was always American Express, and it was one of those cards,

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 1>you know. You put it in this little machine and

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 1>it was like a metal like I don't know how

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:31.360
<v Speaker 1>you describe it, but you would physically place the card

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:33.919
<v Speaker 1>down and then there was like this roller thing on top.

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:36.000
<v Speaker 1>They put this little piece of paper with some carbon

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:38.760
<v Speaker 1>in between it, and it would they would go chick

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 1>and it would literally you would roll this this rolly

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:45.640
<v Speaker 1>thing over the card and make a physical imprint of

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 1>the card onto this little slip, and a lot of

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 1>times you would fill out this slip with like the

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 1>amount of the transaction and then you would sign this slip. Now,

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 1>that is just wild that we've gone from that to

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 1>tap and pay in my lifetime. I mean, that is

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:07.239
<v Speaker 1>pretty amazing. And so after the whole there was a

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 1>magnetic stripe, and the problem with it is that there

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 1>was no authorization. Now, I remember there were certain times

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 1>when it was like a big amount the retailer. And

0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm reaching way back into memory here and maybe this

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:23.320
<v Speaker 1>was just made up in my memory, but I remember

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:26.319
<v Speaker 1>like the retailer would actually have to call up like

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:29.840
<v Speaker 1>American Express and be like, hey, we've got Joe Schmoe

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 1>here and he's got a a four and seventy five

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:36.720
<v Speaker 1>dollars bill.

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 2>Can we authorize that?

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:40.400
<v Speaker 1>And they would give you like an authorization number that

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:42.960
<v Speaker 1>you can write down so that you knew the card

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:44.240
<v Speaker 1>was good for that amount.

0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, think about that.

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 1>When the magnetic stripe came along, it allowed companies to

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 1>in real time not only capture the data from the card,

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:58.239
<v Speaker 1>but also authorize the amount and the transaction. And so that,

0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 1>of course, I'm sure cut down on fraud. It cut

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 1>down on all kinds of stuff. It was just more efficient.

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 1>And then of course we've got the the the chip

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:11.400
<v Speaker 1>which they added to the card, and the chip brings

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:16.840
<v Speaker 1>another level of of security because now it's a unique

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:19.840
<v Speaker 1>number every time, So every time you dip your little

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:22.919
<v Speaker 1>card in the chip reader, it doesn't exchange the card

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 1>number from your card. It actually exchanges a one time

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:29.839
<v Speaker 1>number that is then authorized and the transaction goes through.

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:32.879
<v Speaker 1>So that's even more secure because if that card number

0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 1>ever got out there, well it wouldn't work again, so

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:35.880
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really matter.

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:37.440
<v Speaker 2>And so that was really cool.

0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:41.160
<v Speaker 1>And then kind of at the same time that the

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>man that the chip came out, we got tapped to pay.

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 1>And I remember doing a story with Apple Pay. Oh,

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 1>let me se how many years ago? This was Apple Pay.

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:50.759
<v Speaker 1>By the way, if you ever want to look up

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:52.600
<v Speaker 1>a story I did, all you have to do is

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:55.919
<v Speaker 1>type in the keyword Apple pay ktla DeMuro and that's

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:59.880
<v Speaker 1>it and that'll bring you. And so here November seventeen,

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen, is when I did a story when Apple

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Pay first came out, and I walked out, walked down

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Third Street promenade with Apple's Eddie Q and we kind

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 1>of went to Panera, went to Disney Store. Some of

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:19.760
<v Speaker 1>the early adopters of the tap and pay, which Apple

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:21.919
<v Speaker 1>never called it that, They always called it Apple Pay.

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 1>They wanted you to think it was proprietary, special to them,

0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 1>when in reality, you know you've got Apple Pay, You've

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:31.879
<v Speaker 1>got it's basically just RFID, and in fact, a lot

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:34.440
<v Speaker 1>of credit cards have it built in right on the

0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 1>card itself these days. I don't really see the point

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 1>of that because I always had my phone with me

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 1>and I'd always rather just tap my phone.

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 2>But I guess you know, it's good to have in.

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Case you haven't set up the the Apple Pay or

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Google Pay or Samsung Pay on your smartphone. But I

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:52.560
<v Speaker 1>just recommend doing that because it's more secure, it's easy,

0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:55.839
<v Speaker 1>it's simple. And I actually read an article, I think

0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:59.359
<v Speaker 1>it was life Hacker where someone said this was an

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:02.560
<v Speaker 1>added benefit that if you're traveling and you lose your

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:06.360
<v Speaker 1>physical card, they can update the digital card on your phone,

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:08.359
<v Speaker 1>so you actually would still have a way to pay,

0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:10.440
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of cool. I think I mentioned that

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:11.560
<v Speaker 1>on the podcast as well.

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, so with all that said, here is the deal.

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:19.359
<v Speaker 1>Newly issued master Card credit and debit cards will not

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:21.919
<v Speaker 1>be required to have a stripe starting in twenty twenty four.

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:26.000
<v Speaker 1>In the US it's twenty twenty seven, because we're just

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 1>slow here to adopt.

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Europe is like so much faster in Europe and Asia

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:33.960
<v Speaker 1>for the chip based transactions and the tap and pay

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:37.279
<v Speaker 1>are just so much so ahead of the US. And

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>then by twenty thirty three, no master card, credit or

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 1>debit card will have magnetic stripes. So there's a big

0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:46.799
<v Speaker 1>runway here. But I'm not sad to see it go,

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:50.560
<v Speaker 1>because I mean, it's called progress and we're all good.

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>So to me, if I could tap and pay everywhere,

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:56.840
<v Speaker 1>that would be amazing. I can leave my card behind.

0:44:56.920 --> 0:45:00.480
<v Speaker 1>But it's just not everywhere just yet. Restaurant being the

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 1>major holdout, and in the US especially, restaurants do not

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:07.919
<v Speaker 1>come to your table to let you tap and pay

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:10.640
<v Speaker 1>or put the chip in. Although I was at a

0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:14.279
<v Speaker 1>restaurant last week with my mom that did do this.

0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 2>It was called a Paradise Cove in Malibu. I know.

0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:20.400
<v Speaker 1>We went to Malibu, lat and to my surprise, the

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:21.680
<v Speaker 1>place was like a tourist trap.

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 2>It was great. It was on the ocean.

0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 1>You know it was beautiful, but we're talking like twenty

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 1>five bucks for a drink because it's like, you know,

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing on the menu that's less than like twenty

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:32.560
<v Speaker 1>dollars because it's a you know, it's you're paying for

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:35.160
<v Speaker 1>the view, right But when they came to my table

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:38.319
<v Speaker 1>for the bill, you know you could they came right

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 1>to your table with the little machine that they run

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:42.480
<v Speaker 1>the cart in right away, which I just love. You

0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 1>tap the card, it does it. Some restaurants i've been

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 1>to take it a step further they give you like

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 1>a portfolio and you can actually split the bill right

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:54.520
<v Speaker 1>on your check. That would be awesome. That would be

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:56.680
<v Speaker 1>my dream for every restaurant, especially when you go out

0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:59.400
<v Speaker 1>with friends. A lot of times, not everyone at the

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:02.520
<v Speaker 1>table is, you know, in agreement that you just want

0:46:02.520 --> 0:46:04.080
<v Speaker 1>to split it. Let's say you're with you know, three

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:06.960
<v Speaker 1>other couples. You know, some people want to split it

0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:09.279
<v Speaker 1>three ways. Some people don't, and I'm fine with that.

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:11.400
<v Speaker 1>If they don't want to do it, it's fine. Usually

0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:13.920
<v Speaker 1>there's an over under of about twenty dollars I've noticed,

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:16.279
<v Speaker 1>but some people are not comfortable. They want to just

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:19.200
<v Speaker 1>pay what they exactly had and that's fine, that's their progative.

0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 1>But the problem is it's a pain if the server's

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 1>trying to do that. And we have the technology where

0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:28.840
<v Speaker 1>give me a tablet, let me choose the five or

0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:32.320
<v Speaker 1>six things that we had, and give me my total

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:34.160
<v Speaker 1>including the tip in the tax, and I'll pay it

0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:35.960
<v Speaker 1>and then I'll move it to the next person. They

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 1>choose their five things and they pay their little portion,

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and then the final person gets hosed because they're on

0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:44.920
<v Speaker 1>the hook for anything that anyone else forgot. No, just kidding,

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:47.600
<v Speaker 1>it's just you know, it'll work out. But I don't

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:50.960
<v Speaker 1>understand why restaurants have not adopted that more often, because

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:53.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's a tip thing, or you know,

0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:55.920
<v Speaker 1>if waiters get cheaper tips because of that or what.

0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:58.440
<v Speaker 1>But it just it's probably just the expense of it

0:46:58.480 --> 0:46:59.760
<v Speaker 1>and the upkeep and the maintenance.

0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:02.680
<v Speaker 2>But it's just to me. I love the idea that

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 2>I can just say, Okay, I had.

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:08.480
<v Speaker 1>A iced tea, I had a salad, Okay, I had

0:47:08.480 --> 0:47:10.920
<v Speaker 1>that appetizer, I had that dessert, I had that main entree,

0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 1>and oh there's my total boom.

0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Uh, what was I talking about? I don't even know anyway,

0:47:16.880 --> 0:47:17.919
<v Speaker 1>credit card going away?

0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:22.080
<v Speaker 2>All right?

0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:27.080
<v Speaker 1>So we talked about in the last episode about extended warranties.

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:29.279
<v Speaker 1>I said that I never get them, and Tony wrote

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:32.279
<v Speaker 1>in and said, I myself usually don't buy extended warranties on.

0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:34.600
<v Speaker 2>TVs, but I did with a TCL. I'll tell you why.

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:36.880
<v Speaker 1>The version I was looking to buy I was getting

0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:38.959
<v Speaker 1>great reviews, but some people said they were getting ones

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:41.560
<v Speaker 1>with a dirty screen effect. So I bought the warranty

0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 1>just in case. It wasn't very much. If I remember,

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:46.400
<v Speaker 1>the TV costed about five hundred dollars. I bought it

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:49.080
<v Speaker 1>from Amazon. Sure enough, when I got the TV, there

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:52.080
<v Speaker 1>were some blotches on the screen whenever a screen was

0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:54.479
<v Speaker 1>showing a completely white screen or a blue sky.

0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Not a big deal.

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to go through the trouble of sending

0:47:56.840 --> 0:47:59.439
<v Speaker 1>it back and not having a TV. About a year

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:02.080
<v Speaker 1>or so later, I decided to go ahead and replace

0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:04.920
<v Speaker 1>it under the extended warranty. A repair guy called and

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:06.520
<v Speaker 1>asked what the problem was. I told him about the

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:08.440
<v Speaker 1>dirty screen effect, and he told me to email him

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:11.400
<v Speaker 1>pictures of the screen. He called back and said no

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:13.439
<v Speaker 1>need for him to come by and repair. I would

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:15.640
<v Speaker 1>just get a full refund. A few days later, I

0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:17.759
<v Speaker 1>got the full price credited to my Amazon account, so

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I basically got a free TV. And while I occasionally

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:22.920
<v Speaker 1>see those blotches, still it's not a big deal. I

0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:26.760
<v Speaker 1>thought you'd like to know, Tony Well, sounds like, sounds

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:28.920
<v Speaker 1>like it worked out in your favorite Tony and.

0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:34.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, honestly, I would. I get it. I get

0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:34.640
<v Speaker 2>what you're saying.

0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:36.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like you got your money backs, you can deal

0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:38.719
<v Speaker 1>with those little splotches. I am assuming this is not

0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:39.560
<v Speaker 1>your primary TV.

0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it is, but I get it.

0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Like there's Amazon does this thing now even when you

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:47.440
<v Speaker 1>try to return things, They've got some kind of algorithm

0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 1>that sometimes if it's more expensive for it to be

0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:53.839
<v Speaker 1>returned or more trouble for their system, they just say

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:57.719
<v Speaker 1>keep it. And you know, they're experimenting with a lot

0:48:57.719 --> 0:49:00.200
<v Speaker 1>of different things when it comes to returns. So you

0:49:00.280 --> 0:49:05.040
<v Speaker 1>bought the extended warranty, so so the reality is it

0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:08.000
<v Speaker 1>worked out, and yes, sometimes the extend of warranty will

0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:09.560
<v Speaker 1>work out like like it.

0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Did in this case.

0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 1>That's not always the case, but I'm glad that it did.

0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I still don't really recommend them, because you know, there's

0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:19.279
<v Speaker 1>you didn't.

0:49:18.960 --> 0:49:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Know what was going to happen here.

0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:22.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, you didn't know if this TV was gonna

0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you had to slap it back to somewhere,

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:28.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, and bring it back into the store. But

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:32.320
<v Speaker 1>it you know, again, it's just one of these things

0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:35.239
<v Speaker 1>where it worked out this time. But there's probably one

0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:37.319
<v Speaker 1>hundred other people that bought a TV in that month

0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:40.520
<v Speaker 1>that they never made a claim and Amazon just got

0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:42.840
<v Speaker 1>free money and split it with a surion or whoever

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:46.440
<v Speaker 1>provides the warranties at Amazon at this point. But anyway,

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad it worked out and it sounds great. And

0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:51.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I said, I'm not gonna fault you

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:53.320
<v Speaker 1>if you want to buy an extended warranty, and that

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:55.799
<v Speaker 1>makes you feel better when you buy electronics by all

0:49:55.840 --> 0:49:58.560
<v Speaker 1>means do it. I'm just saying there's a reason why

0:49:58.600 --> 0:50:01.800
<v Speaker 1>these companies offer it. Math works out in the insurance

0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 1>company's favor. It always does. That's why it's called an

0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:07.000
<v Speaker 1>insurance company. But it's also called insurance for a reason.

0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 1>It gives you peace of mind. And I am as as.

0:50:12.560 --> 0:50:15.040
<v Speaker 2>What am I with my money? I am not?

0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I am frugal and as frugal as I am with

0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:23.680
<v Speaker 1>my money. There is also something called convenience. There's something

0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:26.640
<v Speaker 1>called peace of mind, and there is money that you

0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:29.759
<v Speaker 1>have to spend in your lifetime that gives you those

0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:35.520
<v Speaker 1>two things. It also gives you enjoyment. And so you know,

0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:37.759
<v Speaker 1>if you stay at a nice hotel that costs one

0:50:37.800 --> 0:50:42.480
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars more than a bad hotel, I can't fault

0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:47.120
<v Speaker 1>you for that. You've you've got, you know, luxury in

0:50:47.160 --> 0:50:49.520
<v Speaker 1>your life. You've got a great feeling, You've got a

0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:52.520
<v Speaker 1>great memory. So money does a lot of different things,

0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:56.759
<v Speaker 1>and I don't like wasting money, and sometimes things fall

0:50:56.840 --> 0:51:00.640
<v Speaker 1>under wasteful spending. But at the same time, I'm not

0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:02.920
<v Speaker 1>going to fault you for directing your money to what

0:51:03.120 --> 0:51:06.080
<v Speaker 1>gives you a return on that money in any way

0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:07.880
<v Speaker 1>that you feel like that's a return. And if you

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:10.359
<v Speaker 1>feel tony that you got the return, that's great. That's

0:51:10.400 --> 0:51:13.160
<v Speaker 1>all that matters here. And so I'm just saying in general,

0:51:13.560 --> 0:51:16.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, there are circumstances where people feel like they

0:51:16.200 --> 0:51:18.399
<v Speaker 1>got ripped off or they feel like it didn't work out,

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:22.319
<v Speaker 1>and so for those reasons, I typically don't recommend the warranties,

0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:24.680
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not going to fault you if you go

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:28.360
<v Speaker 1>ahead and do it all right. Another big story this week,

0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 1>CS twenty twenty two says they will require proof of

0:51:32.480 --> 0:51:36.280
<v Speaker 1>vaccination to attend CS twenty twenty two, which is happening

0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:39.719
<v Speaker 1>in Las Vegas January fifth through eighth, twenty twenty two.

0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Now, as you might.

0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Recall, I did host the virtual show, the All Digital

0:51:45.560 --> 0:51:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Show last year, or I guess it was the beginning

0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:50.440
<v Speaker 1>of this year. I do not have any inside knowledge

0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:54.200
<v Speaker 1>of CS. They have not contacted me to host this

0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:56.640
<v Speaker 1>year's digital show. I don't know if that will happen

0:51:56.680 --> 0:52:00.360
<v Speaker 1>again with myself. I hope it does, but I don't know,

0:52:00.800 --> 0:52:03.359
<v Speaker 1>and I will be ready to do it if that

0:52:03.440 --> 0:52:06.560
<v Speaker 1>call comes in and I'm allowed to do it. But

0:52:07.560 --> 0:52:09.919
<v Speaker 1>with all that said, they are moving ahead with the

0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:12.640
<v Speaker 1>physical in person version of the show as well. It's

0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:14.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a hybrid. You're gonna have in person and

0:52:14.840 --> 0:52:17.879
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have digital. I'm assuming, and again I don't

0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:20.360
<v Speaker 1>know this, but I'm assuming the in person is going.

0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:21.120
<v Speaker 2>To be scaled back.

0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Typically there's over one hundred thousand people from around the

0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:28.040
<v Speaker 1>world that come to CS. I don't think that will

0:52:28.040 --> 0:52:29.239
<v Speaker 1>be the case in January.

0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:30.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Things are very fluid with this coronavirus and with COVID,

0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:37.439
<v Speaker 1>and so who knows, we could be in a really

0:52:37.440 --> 0:52:38.680
<v Speaker 1>good place in January.

0:52:39.480 --> 0:52:40.239
<v Speaker 2>We just don't know.

0:52:40.800 --> 0:52:43.040
<v Speaker 1>So I think that they're hedging their bets on this

0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:48.600
<v Speaker 1>year's show by requiring the proof of vaccination. And they're

0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:52.600
<v Speaker 1>also looking into accepting a proof of a positive antibody

0:52:52.640 --> 0:52:55.919
<v Speaker 1>test as an alternative requirement. That has not been solidified yet,

0:52:56.239 --> 0:52:58.680
<v Speaker 1>but I guess that's for folks that have had COVID

0:52:59.080 --> 0:53:01.160
<v Speaker 1>that may not have this shot, and they say, I

0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:03.440
<v Speaker 1>don't need the shot anyway, because I already had it,

0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:05.520
<v Speaker 1>and so I've got the antibodies.

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:07.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm good to go. You know.

0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that this is, you know, just the way

0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:12.520
<v Speaker 1>the world right now. This is what's happening. We're seeing

0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:18.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of places require the vaccine to admit I

0:53:18.040 --> 0:53:21.640
<v Speaker 1>see both sides of that argument. And you know, do

0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:22.120
<v Speaker 1>I have it?

0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes? And you know, I.

0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Got it because it's sort of the best I can

0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:28.239
<v Speaker 1>do to protect myself at this point, and I'm just

0:53:28.280 --> 0:53:32.120
<v Speaker 1>not going to keep myself from, you know, any downside

0:53:32.280 --> 0:53:34.920
<v Speaker 1>of of not having it, right, I just want to

0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:37.799
<v Speaker 1>do the best I can do. I know that some

0:53:37.840 --> 0:53:42.799
<v Speaker 1>people have reservations about it still, but again, I'm doing

0:53:42.840 --> 0:53:44.680
<v Speaker 1>what I did what's best for me in my life.

0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to travel to Hawaii. I wanted to travel

0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:49.080
<v Speaker 1>home to New Jersey. I want to go out and

0:53:49.120 --> 0:53:51.480
<v Speaker 1>do my stories. I want to interface with people, and

0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:53.839
<v Speaker 1>I just yes, I know that there's still always an

0:53:53.880 --> 0:53:56.680
<v Speaker 1>inherent risk right now with this thing. But again, like

0:53:56.719 --> 0:53:58.279
<v Speaker 1>I said, I did the best that I can do.

0:53:58.640 --> 0:54:00.520
<v Speaker 1>So CS is doing the best that they can do

0:54:00.880 --> 0:54:04.359
<v Speaker 1>by requiring this, and I'm sure that some people will

0:54:04.400 --> 0:54:06.080
<v Speaker 1>have a problem with that, but I am sure the

0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:07.759
<v Speaker 1>majority of people will be.

0:54:07.719 --> 0:54:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Totally fine with that.

0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:11.279
<v Speaker 1>Now, with all that said, since so many places are

0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:15.880
<v Speaker 1>requiring a vaccination card or a digital copy or whatever,

0:54:16.280 --> 0:54:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I have not run into this just yet, but it

0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:22.040
<v Speaker 1>seems like more and more places are doing this, and

0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:24.200
<v Speaker 1>so for that reason, I did a story on KTLA

0:54:24.360 --> 0:54:28.560
<v Speaker 1>about storing your digital vaccine pass on your phone, and

0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:30.880
<v Speaker 1>so there's not one official method. I think most people

0:54:30.880 --> 0:54:32.600
<v Speaker 1>are when they go on Google, they look up like,

0:54:32.800 --> 0:54:36.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, digital vaccination card, And honestly, I think that

0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:40.399
<v Speaker 1>the government probably should have thought about this when they

0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:43.640
<v Speaker 1>came out with this weird little cardboard card that someone

0:54:43.719 --> 0:54:46.799
<v Speaker 1>writes on that's a record of your vaccine. Like, give

0:54:46.840 --> 0:54:49.120
<v Speaker 1>me a break, I mean, come on, we're in twenty

0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:51.240
<v Speaker 1>twenty one. Like they there should have been a digital

0:54:51.239 --> 0:54:53.120
<v Speaker 1>component to this card from day one.

0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:53.560
<v Speaker 2>But there's not.

0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:57.480
<v Speaker 1>But different states have made their own, like here in California,

0:54:57.520 --> 0:55:00.279
<v Speaker 1>where I am. I was very surprised that you can

0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:03.719
<v Speaker 1>go on the California Department of Health website and apparently

0:55:04.080 --> 0:55:06.760
<v Speaker 1>wherever you get your vaccine, they feed the data into

0:55:06.800 --> 0:55:09.840
<v Speaker 1>this website. Because I put my information in and boom,

0:55:09.880 --> 0:55:12.960
<v Speaker 1>within a couple seconds, I had a QR code texted

0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:15.920
<v Speaker 1>to me. And then you take that QR code and

0:55:16.000 --> 0:55:19.000
<v Speaker 1>you can import it into various apps. I think the

0:55:19.080 --> 0:55:22.759
<v Speaker 1>easiest my okay, so bottom line solution that I came

0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:26.000
<v Speaker 1>up with. And if you get a QR code, like

0:55:26.040 --> 0:55:28.239
<v Speaker 1>one of these smart digital health cards that a lot

0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:34.719
<v Speaker 1>of these companies are using, CVS, Walgreens, Walmart, Carbon Health California.

0:55:34.800 --> 0:55:37.600
<v Speaker 1>If you get one of these smart health cards, you

0:55:37.680 --> 0:55:41.040
<v Speaker 1>download an app called common Pass and it will import

0:55:41.040 --> 0:55:43.600
<v Speaker 1>that card into the pass. It will make a nice

0:55:43.640 --> 0:55:46.239
<v Speaker 1>digital card that you can then show wherever you need

0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:50.319
<v Speaker 1>to show. It doesn't add to your Apple Wallet or

0:55:50.360 --> 0:55:53.640
<v Speaker 1>your Google Pay. It will add to Samsung Pay over

0:55:53.680 --> 0:55:57.120
<v Speaker 1>the next two weeks, so that's really cool.

0:55:57.239 --> 0:55:58.719
<v Speaker 2>I would hope they would.

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<v Speaker 1>Make it so that you can add it to your

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<v Speaker 1>app will Pay. I don't know why they didn't do

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<v Speaker 1>that off the bat, but they didn't. So anyway, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the easiest thing that I can see to do. There

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<v Speaker 1>are also a couple other ways.

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<v Speaker 2>You can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can obviously just use the Notes app to make

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<v Speaker 1>a scan of your card. You can use the drive

0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:17.040
<v Speaker 1>app on Android to make a scan. You can also

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<v Speaker 1>use if you're in New York, the Excelsior pass. Check

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<v Speaker 1>with your I would say, check with your state to

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<v Speaker 1>see if they have a digital passport. Check with your

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<v Speaker 1>the person who or the provider that gave you your

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<v Speaker 1>shot if they have a digital passport. Some of them do,

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<v Speaker 1>like Carbon Health, I call it digital passport. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>a digital copy of your card the Clear app if

0:56:37.400 --> 0:56:39.200
<v Speaker 1>you want to go, if you already have Clear, or

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<v Speaker 1>if you just want to use their app, you can

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<v Speaker 1>create a digital vaccination card on their app.

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<v Speaker 2>It is free.

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<v Speaker 1>It is different from their health pass If you download

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<v Speaker 1>the app, look for it just says digital vaccine card.

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<v Speaker 1>You click there or tap there, I should say, and

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<v Speaker 1>you follow the steps and you can make a digital

0:56:57.040 --> 0:57:00.759
<v Speaker 1>vaccination card. There is no subscription to Clear necessary, and

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<v Speaker 1>I like Clear because their app is really nice. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very well designed. But those are the basic ways Google

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<v Speaker 1>and Apple are actually.

0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:13.400
<v Speaker 2>They are gonna bring. Sorry for that.

0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I think you heard my phone ringing through the through

0:57:16.720 --> 0:57:20.280
<v Speaker 1>the podcast there. That's that's real high quality podcast there.

0:57:20.520 --> 0:57:22.960
<v Speaker 1>When you hear my phone ringing through the podcast, that's

0:57:22.960 --> 0:57:25.240
<v Speaker 1>because my phone is plugged in for the Facebook Live.

0:57:26.440 --> 0:57:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh anyway, so what was I saying?

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<v Speaker 2>I lost my train of thought.

0:57:33.960 --> 0:57:36.680
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, so that's the way to do it, vaccination

0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:41.000
<v Speaker 1>card on your smartphone. And yeah, I totally lost my

0:57:41.040 --> 0:57:42.080
<v Speaker 1>train of thought. But anyway, that's it.

0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Let's let's just get to a question. One of the

0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:49.479
<v Speaker 2>highest quality podcasts you can listen to. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 2>see here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I have time for one more question. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So Justin via Instagram says, hello, mister Demiro. I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>you on KTLA five. I have a question. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have any tips on how to clean up your Mac laptop?

0:58:04.280 --> 0:58:06.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes? I do. I do this very often.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one tip if you have not done this in

0:58:09.880 --> 0:58:11.760
<v Speaker 1>a while, and you're comfortable and a lot of your

0:58:11.760 --> 0:58:14.240
<v Speaker 1>stuff is in the cloud, just do a full factory

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<v Speaker 1>reset of your computer.

0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Now. On a Mac, unlike.

0:58:17.960 --> 0:58:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Windows, you can't just say hey, Windows ten has a

0:58:21.840 --> 0:58:24.600
<v Speaker 1>feature called like refresh and you just basically it's kind

0:58:24.640 --> 0:58:26.640
<v Speaker 1>of like on a smartphone where you can just factory

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<v Speaker 1>reset it. Mac doesn't have that just yet. Maybe they

0:58:29.720 --> 0:58:32.439
<v Speaker 1>will in the future, but you do. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of not know how involved, but you

0:58:35.280 --> 0:58:37.760
<v Speaker 1>can go through and if you look up online clean

0:58:37.800 --> 0:58:41.520
<v Speaker 1>install of you know, let's say, what are we on

0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:45.120
<v Speaker 1>big sur? So if you do clean install of big

0:58:45.160 --> 0:58:47.440
<v Speaker 1>sur you can follow the directions. It does take a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, but that's what I like to do once

0:58:50.200 --> 0:58:52.800
<v Speaker 1>a year, is do a clean install of the software,

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<v Speaker 1>and that way it gets rid of all little fragments

0:58:55.960 --> 0:58:58.880
<v Speaker 1>of garbage and junk and stuff and things slowing down

0:58:58.880 --> 0:59:02.640
<v Speaker 1>your system. That's like the nuclear approach. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>want a fresh, fresh computer, if you want to reset

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<v Speaker 1>the clock on your computer, maybe it's a little bit

0:59:08.200 --> 0:59:11.479
<v Speaker 1>of an older Mac laptop, you want to reset the clock,

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<v Speaker 1>give you another year before you have to buy a

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<v Speaker 1>new one. That's the best way to do it because

0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:17.680
<v Speaker 1>you really clean your system off and you get things.

0:59:18.480 --> 0:59:21.080
<v Speaker 1>You get to start from scratch once again. Now, if

0:59:21.120 --> 0:59:22.439
<v Speaker 1>you don't know how to do that, or you don't

0:59:22.440 --> 0:59:23.920
<v Speaker 1>want to do that, or you feel like that's too

0:59:24.040 --> 0:59:27.640
<v Speaker 1>much work, the next thing I would do is go

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<v Speaker 1>through your entire system and delete everything, all the apps

0:59:32.680 --> 0:59:35.640
<v Speaker 1>that you don't need, you don't recognize, you don't want.

0:59:36.920 --> 0:59:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I would do that, get rid of the big files

0:59:39.200 --> 0:59:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and you know, empty your trash, do all the software updates,

0:59:42.640 --> 0:59:45.800
<v Speaker 1>and restart your computer and that should bring things up

0:59:45.840 --> 0:59:46.720
<v Speaker 1>to speed a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The easiest way to do all those things that I

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<v Speaker 1>just mentioned is an app called.

0:59:54.480 --> 0:59:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Clean my Mac.

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<v Speaker 1>And so clean my Mac is like every other program nowadays.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually there's either like a subscription component or a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a fee component.

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<v Speaker 2>You can do a free trial.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it does everything for the free trial,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's the best thing I know of. I use

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<v Speaker 1>it all the time on my computer. I've used it

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<v Speaker 1>for ten years and it's just fantastic. So it's got

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<v Speaker 1>every single thing you need in there. It's your cleanup,

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<v Speaker 1>which cleans up your system, junk, your mail attachments, your trash, bins.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got malware removal, it's got privacy kind of optimizations,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got speed optimizations, maintenance, it's got an uninstaller that

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<v Speaker 1>will uninstall all the little fragments of apps that.

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<v Speaker 2>They may leave behind.

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<v Speaker 1>And also my other favorite thing is it can look

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<v Speaker 1>for large files taking up space or old files and

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<v Speaker 1>it does all of this stuff in one scan. It

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like an ad for Clean my Mac X, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not. It's just I'm a big fan of the

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<v Speaker 1>program and it just works really well. So the other

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<v Speaker 1>program that is kind of the competition, and for a

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<v Speaker 1>while it was actually kind of a crapwear, but it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is cleaned up its act and it's actually become

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<v Speaker 1>legitimate again. It's called mac Keeper, and so mac Keeper

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<v Speaker 1>is now legitimate and it will do similar things for

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<v Speaker 1>your computer. I have not tested mac Keeper as much

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<v Speaker 1>as I have the Clean my Mac because that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I have installed, is Clean my Mac. So I would

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<v Speaker 1>look at those two programs, see which one you think

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<v Speaker 1>works best for you. And that is my recommendation because

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<v Speaker 1>I think one of those two will we'll do exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what you need. Oh, look at that, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>that sound means?

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<v Speaker 2>It is the end of the show.

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