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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Giant Total Podcast, brought to you by Citizens,

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Speaker 1: the official bank of the New York Giants. The Giants

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Speaker 1: return to MetLife Stadium this weekend to play the Patriots

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Speaker 1: after going one to two on a three game road trip.

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Speaker 1: They are coming off a thirty one to nineteen win

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Speaker 1: over the Commanders, and we're now joined by a man

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Speaker 1: that called the game with Jonathan Vilma for the NFL

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Speaker 1: on Fox. They'll have the call once again this week

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Speaker 1: against New England Versatile, played by play announcer who also

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Speaker 1: has a new book out entitled A Mic for All Seasons,

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Speaker 1: My three Decades announcing the NFL, NHL, NBA, MLB and Olympics.

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Speaker 2: Selfishly, I would say.

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Speaker 1: The most important part of his resume is that he's

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Speaker 1: a fellow NYU Violet, none other than Kenny Albert Kenny

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Speaker 1: got Lance Meadow here on Giants dot Com.

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Speaker 2: Always good to speak with your Hope Pole as well.

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Speaker 2: How's everything on your end? That?

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Speaker 3: That's great to be with you.

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Speaker 4: A lot of fun calling the Giants Commander's game on Sunday,

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Speaker 4: and we weren't there at the same time. I'm a

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Speaker 4: lot older than you, but we are both graduates of

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Speaker 4: WNYU Radio.

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Speaker 3: So proud to be a member of that club with you.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely an honor and a privilege. And I want to

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Speaker 1: get into your history as we delve into the book.

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Speaker 1: But let's start with the Giants connection first.

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Speaker 2: Kenny.

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Speaker 1: I know you appreciate statistical trends. It's quite interesting you

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Speaker 1: call the game in which the Giants quarterback was sacked

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Speaker 1: nine times and a Giants quarterback never won a game

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Speaker 1: under those circumstances, and the opposing team has six opportunistic

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Speaker 1: takeaways to basically balance the scale. What did you make

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Speaker 1: of just the whole ebbs and flows of last week's

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Speaker 4: It was one of the craziest games that I've ever

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Speaker 4: called lance with DeVito getting sacked five times in the

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Speaker 4: the Giants coming up with the six takeaways. I actually

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Speaker 4: posed the question to our statistician, Dave Chorus, when it

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Speaker 4: had the lead. I said, can you look up and

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Speaker 4: ask the statistical folks that we work with, what is

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Speaker 4: the record you know for most time sacked in a

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Speaker 4: Giants win? And it turns out previously it was eight

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Speaker 4: get that note during the broadcast up on a graphic

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Speaker 4: mentioned it in the fourth quarter. But you know, the

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Speaker 4: Giants defense, they were tremendous right from the start. And

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Speaker 4: Tommy DeVito, what a story. And we talked to him

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Speaker 4: leading up to the game, and there's been so much

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Speaker 4: you know, aside from the sacks, he was terrific through

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Speaker 4: for almost two hundred and fifty yards three touchdowns, set

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Speaker 4: two starts. So it was a fun game to call

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Speaker 4: and look forward to this Sunday against the Pats.

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Speaker 1: You brought up Tommy DeVito's personality and you bring this

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Speaker 1: up in your book, how your interactions with Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: being around Tommy DeVito, anybody else come to mind in

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Speaker 1: terms of his flavor and flash and what perhaps could

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Speaker 1: going from an unngrafted guy to now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: Well my first thought after the game, and I'll get

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Speaker 4: back to his personality in a second, But we've seen this,

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Speaker 4: practice squad, who's the third quarterback? You know, who knows

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Speaker 4: how long the career lasts. And again it's only two starts,

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Speaker 4: So that was my first take. I'm not comparing him

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to think that's a good question of other guys.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're not in the locker room on game

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Speaker 5: You're ready for a change. Pay Day comes early with citizens,

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Speaker 5: so go to that retreat, knew you move to the country.

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Speaker 5: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are

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Speaker 5: you ready for all that life brings?

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Speaker 1: So speaking of storylines, as you hit on, he now

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Speaker 1: has to solve a Bill BELICHICKI in defense this week,

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Speaker 1: and we know rookie quarterbacks haven't fared very well against

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. I'm sure you're just delving in to your

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Speaker 1: Patriots prep. And interestingly, Kenny, you recently called the Commander's

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Speaker 1: act for these two opponents against the Giants, the challenge

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Speaker 1: that Tommy DeVito was facing this week. And how much

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Speaker 1: of a bit of a mirror image do you think

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Speaker 1: the Giants and the Patriots are given some of their

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of similarities.

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Speaker 4: And we did have that Patriots Commander's game a couple

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Speaker 4: of weeks ago, and you're right about Bill Belichick against

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Speaker 4: the offense is struggling, but it's a really good defense.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: He might not have the stars the Hall of Famers

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Speaker 4: He was really impressed with the Patriots defense leading up

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Speaker 3: Really looking forward to it.

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Speaker 4: So many storylines, Belichick against the Giants, the rookie quarterback

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Speaker 4: despite the records, somebody asked me earlier, how do you

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Speaker 4: prepare for a game, you know, involving two teams with

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Speaker 4: great storylines out there, so it couldn't be more excited.

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Speaker 4: It's actually for our crew a two week stretch at MetLife.

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Speaker 4: We have the Giants Pats this week and then the

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Speaker 1: And quite the luxury for somebody like you who's traveling

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Speaker 1: based on your book. On a related note, Kenny, to preparation,

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Speaker 1: I would think it's quite the luxury given all of

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Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, it's huge.

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Speaker 4: It cuts down on at least I would say five

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Speaker 4: so it's one last game to watch back on tape

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Speaker 4: because we did the game, had Arizona two spray weeks.

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Speaker 4: Like you said, Green Bay a couple of times. Now

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Speaker 1: bring up in your book, Kenny, that this is now

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Speaker 1: Fascinating that a Fox executive, if I have this right,

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Speaker 4: Ruper Murdoch makes this crazy bid late in ninety three

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, you were bringing back horror stories about negotiating with

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Speaker 1: We're going through the ins and outs of his experience

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Speaker 1: assignment And how did that impact your prep work compared

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Speaker 1: to something else when you know you can map out

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Speaker 1: what you have up ahead for weeks.

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Speaker 4: And months, right, That was a bit of a scramble,

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Speaker 4: but so exciting to get the call. Unfortunately Doc had

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Speaker 4: to pull out at the last minute, so it was

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Speaker 4: about a week before I had to travel to Salt Lake,

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Speaker 4: and I remember watching the Rams Patriots Super Bowl, the

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Speaker 4: out of vinitary game winner in my home office in

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Speaker 4: New Jersey and preparing for about twenty four different hockey teams,

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Speaker 4: men's and women at the Olympics. And it was so

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Speaker 4: much fun though, to be involved in the Olympics for

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Speaker 4: the first time, and you know, you never know, you

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Speaker 4: get a phone.

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Speaker 3: Call and all of a.

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Speaker 4: Sudden, looking back, I've worked eight Olympics. If not for

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Speaker 4: the dock situation, may not have ever worked any so

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Speaker 4: right place at the right time. Similar back in ninety

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Speaker 4: four when I got the call to work NHL radio

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Speaker 4: for the Rangers Canucks in the Stanley Cup Final about

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Speaker 4: a week before the start of the series, a week

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Speaker 4: to ten days because how He Rose, the Great how

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Speaker 4: He Rose had done the NHL radio the previous season

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Speaker 4: when the Kings played the Canadians, But as the Rangers

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Speaker 4: kept winning and moving along in the playoffs in ninety four,

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Speaker 4: it was apparent that if they won, he would have

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Speaker 4: his Rangers and WFA and radio duties. So I got

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Speaker 4: called out of the bullpen for that one. A little different.

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Speaker 4: It was only two teams, not twenty four, but just

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Speaker 4: as exciting to get that out opportunity.

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Speaker 5: You loved turf, You're good at it, so you start

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Speaker 5: a turf biz business grows, your savings, grow, become the

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Speaker 5: most celebrated name in turf. Are you ready for all

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Speaker 5: that life brings?

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Speaker 1: On the topic of the Olympics, the one that I

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Speaker 1: found a bit comical for the lack of a better

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Speaker 1: phrase is when you were younger and you were doing

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes work at the nineteen eighty eight and

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two Summer Olympics, that you had to maneuver

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Speaker 1: your NYU course schedule in eighty eight because it overlapped with.

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Speaker 2: The start of the fall semester.

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Speaker 1: And here's an example, Kenny, we're knowing the president of

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Speaker 1: the chancellor of the university and the journalism professors perhaps provided.

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Speaker 2: A bit of an aid.

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Speaker 1: But how much did you have to think twice about

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Speaker 1: whether or not that wouldn't interrupt your educational studies and

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Speaker 1: whether or not it was worth that sacrifice or was

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Speaker 1: that not even a debate at that point?

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Speaker 4: I didn't think twice because it was such a great

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Speaker 4: life experience, learning experience, work experience to go to Barcelona

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Speaker 4: for the Olympics in eighty eight. I missed the first

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Speaker 4: I think two weeks of class, maybe two and a half,

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Speaker 4: but I worked it out. You mentioned the chancellor at

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Speaker 4: the time, Jay Oliva, the late great Jay Oliva, who

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Speaker 4: those of us who worked for WNYU, the five or

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Speaker 4: six of us in the sports department, we became pretty

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Speaker 4: good friends with the chancellor because he was such a

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Speaker 4: proponent of the athletic department, and he would be at

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Speaker 4: all the home basketball games and he would travel to

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Speaker 4: a lot of the away games with the team, So

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Speaker 4: we got to know Chancellor or leave it very well.

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Speaker 4: He became a good friend, and I was honored to

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Speaker 4: speak at an event at NYU when he retired at

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Speaker 4: the score Ball Center, probably about fifteen years ago now,

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Speaker 4: but I remember going up to his office one day

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Speaker 4: and I said, how do you think I can make

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Speaker 4: this work? Missing the first two or three weeks of

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Speaker 4: class my junior year, and he agreed that it was

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Speaker 4: a great life learning experience to go over there and

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Speaker 4: work as a runner researcher for NBC in Barcelona. So

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Speaker 4: you had to take it normally. It took sixteen credits

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Speaker 4: back then sixteen per semester. There are four credits each class,

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Speaker 4: so four classes, four credits you had to take at

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Speaker 4: least twelve to live in the dorm. So I wanted

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Speaker 4: to stay in the dorm. And the way that we

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Speaker 4: worked it out, we hatched a plan that I would

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Speaker 4: take twelve credits that semester.

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Speaker 3: I'd make up the other.

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Speaker 4: Four later on, which is pretty easy, and I took

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Speaker 4: only two classes that semester, and then I worked out

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Speaker 4: I did an independent study with the journalism's apartment, which

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Speaker 4: is basically writing a couple of papers on the experience

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Speaker 4: at the Olympics for four credits. And then the two

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Speaker 4: professors Mitchell Stevens in the journalism department and Jack Peckett

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Speaker 4: was a history professor, but he also I think he

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Speaker 4: might have been the wrestling coach, so I knew him

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Speaker 4: through the athletic department as well. We worked it out

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Speaker 4: where I would their classes, the two classes I would

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Speaker 4: take work with me to Barcelona for the first two

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Speaker 4: weeks that I was missing, and then when I came back,

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Speaker 4: caught up on some of the work and also did

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Speaker 4: a presentation in each class on the experience at the Olympics.

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Speaker 3: So we made it work. Chancellor relieve it was a

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Speaker 3: great man went on to become the president, but he

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Speaker 3: definitely helped me hatch that plan to miss the first

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Speaker 3: two or three weeks of college my junior year and

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Speaker 3: go over to Barcelona to work for NBC.

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Speaker 1: One of the most unique independent study courses in the

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Speaker 1: history of the college curriculum. I would say, not as

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Speaker 1: an NYU, but even beyond and Mitchell. Steven's name I'm

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Speaker 1: very familiar with because I later took a course with

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Speaker 1: him too. So Chris goes to show you it's a

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Speaker 1: small world in violet Land. And speaking of a small world,

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Speaker 1: I want to bring your career full circle because people

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Speaker 1: who are.

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Speaker 2: Very familiar with your work also very familiar with the

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Speaker 2: Albert name.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just your father, Marv, but your two

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Speaker 1: uncles have had very decorated broadcasting careers as well, Steve

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Speaker 1: and Al who wins thatt Ley Kenny. You know they

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Speaker 1: all went to my high school, Abraham Lincoln High School

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Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, New York. So it's amazing the connections I

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Speaker 1: have with the Albert family from an educational standpoint, But

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Speaker 1: I know that you talk about this in your book

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Speaker 1: Household Meals. It sounded like a sports talk show, but

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Speaker 1: from a stylistic standpoint, Kenny, what stood out about the

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Speaker 1: three and how did you pick and choose, Hey, Marv

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Speaker 1: does it this way, Steve does it that way, Al

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Speaker 1: does it that way? And how to sort of navigate

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Speaker 1: what you found beneficial from early all three of them?

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Speaker 4: Right, it's a great question. And when Alan Steve would

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Speaker 4: come over when I was younger, and I would sit

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Speaker 4: there and listen to their stories, the three of them,

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Speaker 4: it really did seem like the first all sports radio station.

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Speaker 4: They would talk about that, the various teams and leagues

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Speaker 4: and networks that they worked for.

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Speaker 3: I've never gotten that question before.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that I necessarily took, you know, something

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Speaker 4: different from each of them. The number one thing that

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Speaker 4: I did learn though, from all three was the preparation.

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Speaker 4: That was something ingrained in my head from a young age.

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Speaker 4: And I have a checklist that I go through before

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Speaker 4: each and every game, which involves a lot of reading

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Speaker 4: and watching previous games and preparing charts and going through

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Speaker 4: notes and statistics, and talking to players and coaches, going

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Speaker 4: to practices, listening to press conferences. But I was a

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Speaker 4: big radio listener lance when I was younger. We didn't

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Speaker 4: have cable TV until I was seventeen, so not only

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Speaker 4: family members, but I would watch and listen Rangers, Islanders,

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Speaker 4: Devils once they came in eighty two, Nicks, Nets, Giants, Jets, Mets, Yankees.

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Speaker 4: I would listen to every game you know that I

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Speaker 4: can get a hold of on the radio. I would

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Speaker 4: watch the over the air broadcasts as well, and whether

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Speaker 4: it was you know, Marty Glickman towards the end of

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Speaker 4: his career, Spencer Ross, Bill White, Frank Messer and Phil

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Speaker 4: Rizzuto on the Yankees, Bob Murphy, Lindsay Nelson, Ralph Conner

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Speaker 4: on the Mets, and then as it moved along, Howie Rose,

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Speaker 4: Sam Rose and Jigs McDonald, Mike Emerck, Jim Gordon back

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Speaker 4: the day with the Giants and Rangers. So I would

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Speaker 4: listen and watch to every announcer, probably took a little

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Speaker 4: bit from each of them. And you know, still to

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Speaker 4: this day, really enjoy watching so many of the great

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Speaker 4: broadcasters that are out there. But you know, at a

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Speaker 4: young age, I had a tape recorder as a president

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Speaker 4: for my fifth birthday and started announcing games, you know,

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Speaker 4: in my bedroom off the television. And it kind of

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Speaker 4: came full circle. During the COVID years, we were all

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Speaker 4: announcing games off monitors, you know about about you know,

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Speaker 4: forty five years after I was doing that in my

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Speaker 4: bedroom on Long Island.

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Speaker 1: Well, speaking of COVID, Kenny, does this book actually come

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Speaker 1: to fruition that I'm holding up right now if it

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Speaker 1: wasn't for the pandemic, Because with your schedule, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's amazing. You have time to prepare for everything that

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Speaker 1: you're doing from a broadcasting standpoint, but you need time

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Speaker 1: to tape down and sit down and really reflect on

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Speaker 1: your entire career. So how does the dynamics change you

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Speaker 1: think with respect to this book.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not.

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Speaker 4: It might not have come to fruition if not for

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Speaker 4: that period when I was home for one hundred and

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Speaker 4: forty six straight days from March of twenty twenty until

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Speaker 4: I left for the NHL Bubble playoff Bubble at Edmonton

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Speaker 4: in early August. I had always thought about it in

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Speaker 4: the back of my mind. Putting pen to paper, I

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Speaker 4: felt like I had a lot of stories. My family,

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Speaker 4: kind of my wife and daughters, you know, pushed me

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Speaker 4: to do a book at some point, but never really

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Speaker 4: felt like I had the time. And during the pandemic,

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Speaker 4: I had received an email several years prior from a

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Speaker 4: book agent, Andrew Blowner in New York Blounder Books. We

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Speaker 4: didn't know each other but had some mutual contacts, and

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Speaker 4: he emailed and said, if you ever thinking about writing

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Speaker 4: a book, let me know I might be able to

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Speaker 4: hook you up with a publisher. And sure enough I

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Speaker 4: got in contact with Andrew and Triumph Books out of

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Speaker 4: Chicago signed on and it was a lot of fun

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Speaker 4: over about a two and a half year stretch. Started

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Speaker 4: during the pandemic. Came up with an outline, started writing

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Speaker 4: some sample story powagraphs chapters, and then I was told

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Speaker 4: we need seventy thousand words by September twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 4: so it sounded a little bit daunting. I remember when

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Speaker 4: I was at about thirty thousand, thinking to myself, how

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Speaker 4: will I ever get to seventy thousand, and eventually wound

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Speaker 4: up with eighty thousand.

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Speaker 3: So once.

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Speaker 4: You know, sports started up again and we all began traveling,

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Speaker 4: got a lot of it done in hotels, on airplanes,

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Speaker 4: really whenever I could. And then the summer of twenty two,

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Speaker 4: when I didn't have a lot of work, a couple

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Speaker 4: of games here and there, really finished it up during

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Speaker 4: that period, and then once I submitted it in September

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Speaker 4: last year, we went through the editing process with Triumph,

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Speaker 4: and just so proud and excited when the first boxes

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Speaker 4: arrived at my house in late August. It came out

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Speaker 4: to the public in October last month, and surreal to

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Speaker 4: see Wayne gretzkyin wal Clyde Fraser on the cover, they took.

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Speaker 3: Part in the forwards, and so.

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Speaker 4: Many other really nice blurbs and paragraphs from other colleagues

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Speaker 4: and friends, people that I've become close with through the years.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's an extremely enjoyable read, Kenny. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: just saying that because I have you on. I took

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to delve into it, and as a broadcaster,

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Speaker 1: obviously I'm passionate about the topic, but also it is

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Speaker 1: great to hear your own experiences.

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Speaker 2: It's a mic for all seasons.

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Speaker 1: My three decades announcing the NFL, NHL, NBA, MLB and

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Speaker 1: Olympics can't recommend it enough. You could check it out

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Speaker 1: online and wherever books are sold. Now, Kenny, before I

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Speaker 1: let you go out of my own curiosity, I've seen

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Speaker 1: in passing that your father, Marv Albert actually went to

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Speaker 1: NYU after Syracuse. I need a confirmation, and I want

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Speaker 1: to know can NYU claim him as opposed to Syracuse?

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Speaker 2: So you got to set the record straight for me here.

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Speaker 4: He did finish up at NYU, graduated from was it

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Speaker 4: Syracuse for three full years, possibly into a fourth year.

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Speaker 4: I'd have to check the exact math. But Marty Glickman,

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Speaker 4: the great Marty Glickland who I referenced earlier, longtime voice

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Speaker 4: of the Giants. When when my father was at Lincoln

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Speaker 4: High School, he met Marty who was doing a high

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Speaker 4: school football game of the week at that time, and

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Speaker 4: he started keeping stats for Marty and he would intern

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Speaker 4: for Marty Glickman. He was also a Knicks ball boy,

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Speaker 4: and I think that's how he first met Marty who

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Speaker 4: was doing the Knicks at the time. So he had

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Speaker 4: a couple of jobs during his high school years. He

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Speaker 4: was a Knicks ball boy, he was an intern for

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Speaker 4: the Brooklyn Dodgers, and he wrote for the Lincoln Lot,

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Speaker 4: the high school newspaper on Lincoln School. I've heard all

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Speaker 4: these stories and I mentioned some of them in the book.

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Speaker 4: So he met Marty, I think at the Knicks game.

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Speaker 4: Initially started keeping stats for him at the high school

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Speaker 4: football game of the week, and then Marty asked him

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Speaker 4: if he would move to New York. Marty was a

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Speaker 4: Syracuse brad as well. Marty needed an intern slash assistant

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Speaker 4: slash fill in broadcaster. So because of the opportunity with Marty,

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Speaker 4: he moved to New York and finished up at NYU

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Speaker 4: after the three years at Syracuse and wound up filling

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Speaker 4: in for Marty on a Nick Celtics game that was

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Speaker 4: his first real broadcast in either nineteen sixty two or

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Speaker 4: sixty three. I know I write about it in the

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Speaker 4: book as well, but it was the work with Marty

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Speaker 4: Glickman that led him to the transfer from Syracuse to NYU.

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Speaker 1: So there is an NYU degree with Marv Albert's name

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Speaker 1: on his Is what you're saying?

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Speaker 3: Finished up at NYU?

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Speaker 2: Yes, there we go.

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Speaker 1: Little history here on the Giants Huddle Podcast, So Washington

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Speaker 1: Square News, the Lincoln Log, we covered it all here

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Speaker 1: on the Huddle, brought to you by citizens, the official

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Speaker 1: bank of the New York Giants. Kenny Da, Thank you enough.

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Speaker 1: It's always great to catch up with you. Always great

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Speaker 1: to reminisce. Best of luck, calling Giants Patriots, and who knows,

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Speaker 1: maybe you've been witnessed to both pick sixes this season

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Speaker 1: for the Giants with Jason Pinnock and then what Isaiah

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Speaker 1: Simmons did, So maybe we're up for a third one this.

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Speaker 4: Week, Jason not tying the franchise record one hundred two

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Speaker 4: yards in Miami. But Lance really appreciate you having me on.

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Speaker 4: I remember coming on your show. The Chief seats at

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Speaker 4: WNYU as a dot so we've come full circle. The

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Speaker 4: book has its own Instagram account run by my daughter

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Speaker 4: who works as a video editor producer at the National

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Speaker 4: Hockey League, so in our spare time she runs the

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Speaker 4: Instagram account. It's a mic for all seasons. It follows

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Speaker 4: the travels of the book to various arenas and stadiums

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Speaker 4: and cities that I go to. And the book can

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Speaker 4: be found in bookstores online, Barnes and Noble, dot Com, Amazon, Target.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate you reading it and your support. And one final thing,

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Speaker 4: it's not only for sports fans, as I think you

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Speaker 4: would agree. You don't have to be a sports fan

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Speaker 4: to read the book. There's a lot about family, hard work,

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Speaker 4: dedication as well, and a couple of references as you said,

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Speaker 4: to the Washington Square News and the Lincoln Lot.

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Speaker 1: And also it's a great lesson and in terms of

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Speaker 1: how to grind things out, work hard and in the

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Speaker 1: end it could pay off immenseally, as you certainly have

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Speaker 1: shown that in terms of your career. Coming to Fruition

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Speaker 1: Kenny always a pleasure and look forward to speaking down

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Speaker 1: the road.

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Speaker 4: Thanks again, Thanks Lance, and congratulations in your career to

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Speaker 4: a fellow NYU student in Wnyu Sports Guy. Have enjoyed

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Speaker 4: listening and watching and hope to see you out there

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Speaker 4: on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely my pleasure is. This is the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: the Giant Total Podcast. You can check it out on

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Speaker 1: giants dot com, the mobile app, and your favorite podcast platforms.