1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined as always by my trusted 3 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: colleague West Hodkowitz. Were coming to you here from our 4 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: studios at lambeau Field. West were another day closer to 5 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Packers Dolphins Back at home. Packers have a home game 6 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: for the only time in the month of November. Here 7 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: day stretch. By the way, this is the only home game. Wow, 8 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: all right, well, Central Time kickoff on Sunday afternoon at 9 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: lambeau Field. Gonna be a little chilly, sounds like mid 10 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: thirties and uh a Florida team coming up here to 11 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: lambeau Field. So the Packers need to use that to 12 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: their advantage. But where I wanted to start today's show 13 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: is talking about a young defensive player who, quite frankly, 14 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: West has the opportunity of his career in some respects 15 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: right now. And I'm talking about second year safety Josh Jones, 16 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: a second round pick out of North Carolina State a 17 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: year ago. In the last couple of weeks, the Packers 18 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: have traded ha Clinton Dix, they have released Germaine Whitehead. 19 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: Josh Jones is going to be getting a lot of 20 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: snaps and if he wants to prove that he can 21 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: be a regular, a fixture in this Mike Petton defense 22 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: for the rest of this season and perhaps going forward, 23 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: now's his chance. This is all he wanted, Mike. It 24 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: was really interesting listen to him talk at his locker 25 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, actually spoke for aboute fifteen minutes with reporters, 26 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 1: just kind of overlaying what this last you know, two 27 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: months has been like for him. You gotta remember, Mike, 28 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: this is a guy that came in as a second 29 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: round pick, ran a four four, had you know, just 30 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: sky high expectations, and then played a lot as a rookie, 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: played over seven d defensive snaps, started seven games, played 32 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: in all sixteen. Then he ends up having an ankle 33 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: injury at the end of training camp, miss is the 34 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: first three games of this season, and when he gets back, 35 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: he's on special teams. Actually it only played six defensive 36 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: snaps in his first four games prior to the Patriots. 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: So I don't want to portrayed as like a fomo, 38 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 1: like a feeling of missing out thing with all these 39 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: young defensive backs, but to a certain extent, he was 40 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: really champing at the bit to get that opportunity to 41 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: get out there and show again why the Packers drafted 42 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: him in the element he can add to his defense. 43 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: You know, he really wasn't going to get into, you know, 44 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: all the personnel stuff and what's led to get him 45 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: to this point. But he said there was a lot 46 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: of anticipation. There was a lot of excitement going into 47 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: that game Sunday because he knew he was gonna have 48 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: some kind of role. I think the unexpected aspect of 49 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: it is is how big that role ended up being. 50 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: He played the fifth most snaps on defense. After the 51 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: injury to Kentroll Bryce and the fact that you know, 52 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: Jermaine white had also got ejected. Yeah, and Kentroll Bryce 53 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: was back on the practice field on Wednesday on a 54 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: limited basis, so signs pointing to potentially that that injury 55 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: not um being all too serious. But getting back to 56 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: Josh Jones for a second, this is just my observations 57 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: from what I've seen. He know, and I think he 58 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: knows this, but he needs to be a more disciplined 59 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: football player. And what I mean by that, I'm not 60 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: talking about discipline in the Germaine Whitehead extracurricular after the 61 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: play since. But we've seen in the first season and 62 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: a half of his career, with a lot of snaps 63 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: that he's had on special teams, he's had a lot 64 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: of penalties called, and some of the penalties, you know, 65 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: frankly being somewhat inexcusable because it is just a lack 66 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: of focus or a lack of discipline that's led to 67 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: those penalties, and those kinds of things can make it 68 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: hard for a coaching staff to trust you necessarily. So 69 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: with everything that's gone on this season, now he has 70 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: to just it's almost as though he's starting fresh right now, 71 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: doesn't it seem like, Yeah, it does seem like this 72 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: is a chance to kind of turn the page a 73 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: little bit. He did address that at his locker on Wednesday, 74 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: the fact that he got a full start penalty on 75 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: the opening kickoff off side of yeah uh, and he 76 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: actually said he's like, yeah, it was my bad. It's inexcusable. 77 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: But he just chalked it up to that's how much 78 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: excitement he had that he he just needed to get going. 79 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: He wanted to get going. He was ready to play 80 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: some football, and as it turned out, with playing as 81 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: many snaps as he saw in defensive special teams. It 82 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: ended up being that kind of day. But the thing 83 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: I did like, and you pointed out what you might 84 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: have missed. I mentioned it in the story I wrote 85 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: on packers dot Com that that play he made on 86 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: the goal line. I really liked it for a number 87 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: of reasons. One, it was critical in the game. It 88 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: was the first downplay of the four down stand that 89 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: they had second sorry uh. And the fact that you know, 90 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,559 Speaker 1: he had to dive inside Nick Perry, got inside James 91 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: Devil and I should say with corter All Patterson to 92 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: be able to get into the backfield to make that play. 93 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: Everybody kind of had their man on the offensive line 94 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: for the New England Patriots. He had to be the 95 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: unaccounted defender and he stepped up to that made a nice, 96 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: you know, pretty much textbook leg tackle on Patterson that 97 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: helps set up the four downs. We talked so much 98 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: about his big playability we saw last year some of 99 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: the things he did against Cincinnati and Cleveland, but it's 100 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: plays like that where you're just fulfilling your assignment that 101 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: are really going to help him stay on the field. Yeah, 102 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: one of the things I liked about that play the 103 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: second down the second and goal play. When I went 104 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: back and looked at it, was just seeing how disappointed 105 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 1: he was when it was initially ruled a touchdown because 106 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: he knew he had made a good play, he had 107 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: done exactly what was supposed to do. He thought he 108 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: got Patterson short of the goal line, and then they 109 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: signaled touchdown. Anyway, as we know, the replay reverse that 110 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: and the ball was still inside the one yard line. 111 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: But when you look at the video of it, his 112 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: dejection almost as he's walking off the field after, like, oh, 113 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: I thought, I just you know, it's like we had 114 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: that and you know, then it didn't go the Packers 115 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: way initially. So a passionate player, I think there's no 116 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: question about that. I think you know, you mentioned it 117 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: with the play on the opening kickoff. It's it's about 118 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: containing that passion and using it in the right way 119 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: and not using it in an undisciplined way that can 120 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: lead to some silly flags. Yeah. No, I mean that's 121 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: what you have to be able to do to avoid 122 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And the thing that I did, 123 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: we were talking to him about it's going to be 124 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: interesting now, is that okay? So, as you said, Bryce 125 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: actually did practice on Wednesday, Tremont Williams is playing Sums 126 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: safety uh Ibraheim Campbell that the Packers actually claimed off waivers. Now, 127 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: he's gonna need time to get up to speed with stuff, 128 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: But he actually does have a connection to Petton. He 129 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: was drafted there during drafted to Cleveland during Petton's second year. 130 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: Is the head coach there, so he has familiarity with 131 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: him as well. Whatever the case may be. Josh Jones 132 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: feels really confident he can find a role in this 133 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: defense and really thriving it. If it needs to be 134 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: a deep safety. Fine if it ends up being the 135 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: in the box rope because there's no more Germaine Whitehead. 136 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: He's cool with that slock cornerback whatever. He just wants 137 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: to play, and I think getting those fifty one defensive 138 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: snaps and getting that comfort familiarity with Tremont Williams even 139 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: said it he was a calming presence and helped relax 140 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: him back. They're working with him just based on his 141 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: knowledge in what he knew and just being able to 142 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: assume that control. Yeah, he feels like there's a lot 143 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: of potential despite what they've lost in that back end, 144 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: to be able to build something you're going forward. Alrighty, well, 145 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: I'll remember Packers fans, stop in at your local Quick Trip, 146 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: pick up your Packers cup today and get eighty nine 147 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: cent refills on your Cafe Cruba coffee all season long, 148 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: Cafe Cruba Coffee. That's that's a mouthful that I have 149 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: to work on. That. Have to smooth that one out 150 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: here as we as we move along. But another young guy, 151 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: think West, and we've already talked about him a lot already. 152 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: But I did a little bit of statistical research, you 153 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: might say, on rookie receiver Marquez Valdez scantling. Did you 154 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: got it right? You got it right. I'm just saying 155 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: that that was a big thing this week. Yeah, it 156 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: was Mark Quez. Yeah, because he hears his name. He 157 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: hears his name pronounced Marquez all the time, and he says, no, 158 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: it's Marquez. Got to hit that heavy cue. Yes, it's 159 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: the cue, it's the queu. Okay, now, I used I 160 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: started to get worried for a second that I messed 161 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: it up, because that's the last thing I want to 162 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: do to this young man. But um, but statistically West, 163 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: he has three fifty eight yards receiving through eight games, 164 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: and since eight games in a sixteen game season makes 165 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: the math easy if you project that out, he's on 166 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: pace for over seven hundred yards receiving. Here's an interesting 167 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: little fact for you. Only three rookie receivers and Packers 168 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: history have had more than seven hundred yards receiving as rookies. 169 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: If you want to try Sterling Sharp. Sterling Sharp is one. 170 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: James Jones, Nope, James Jones was just under seven hundred. No, 171 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: he was also just under seven hundred Nope. Arnett James Lofton. 172 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: James Lofton is too. And the guy at the very 173 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: top of the list has put up a huge number 174 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: that perhaps no rookie will ever touch. No Billy Houghton, 175 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: we would have been here for three more episodes, and 176 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: I was trying to get Holton had over twelve hundred 177 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: yards in nineteen fifty two as a rookie receiver. He's 178 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: the one at the top of that list. James Lofton 179 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: and Sterling Sharp, both with right around eight hundred yards 180 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: give or take. Those are the only three in Packer's 181 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: history to have rookie seasons of more than seven hundred 182 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: yards receiving. And when you look at the fact that 183 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: actually three hundred and fifty five I believe of Valdes Scantling, 184 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: Street and in fifty eight yards have been in the 185 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: last five games. Because he hardly played the first three 186 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: games of the season. He's on pace for for really 187 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: quite a rookie season. Here Geronimo Allison's on injured reserve um. Again, 188 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: the the opportunity will be there. It will be interesting 189 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: to see just where this rookie season for him ranks 190 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: when it's all said and done. So you wrote a story, obviously, 191 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm Packers dot Com. My favorite quote, probably, honestly, Mike, 192 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: my favorite quote from MVS this entire year was the 193 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: fifth round pick. You gotta remember out of South Florida. 194 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: I could are less about where I got drafted. I couldn't, 195 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, Um, I'm in the store. 196 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: That's all that matters. I love that phrase. I love 197 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: that mentality because if you go back, Mike, we talked 198 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: about it right from the get go, and the Packers 199 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: coaches I mentioned this to Valda Scantling looked like the 200 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: rookie that was always kind of there is a number four, 201 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: so to speak, right from the beginning, and I think 202 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: if you would have just lined up all, you know, 203 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: just put all the rookies on the field, not just 204 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: the receivers, and said, okay, tell us where all these guys. 205 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: Which round they got taken. I mean, obviously you'd probably 206 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: still think JayR Alexander was first round just based on 207 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: how he carries himself. But Valdis Scantling looks like a 208 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: second or third round. He looks like a guy that 209 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: just came in with expectations and has just been living 210 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: up to them. You don't really understand that this is 211 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: a guy taken sort of during that Siberia of Day 212 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: three where it's just kind of like, oh, come on already, 213 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: let's get to the next round. No. I mean, this 214 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: ended up being a really critical draft pick for the Packers, 215 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: and you know, I think Davante Adams was talking about 216 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: it as locker on Wednesday as well. Nobody really acted 217 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: that these rookies were gonna have to come in and 218 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: play as much as they had. I think everybody knows 219 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: how things happen in Green Bay. At some point you're 220 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: gonna be called upon. But they felt pretty good about 221 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: how things looked with having Randall Cobb, having Jimmy Graham 222 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: and in Geronimo Allison and the heck the middle of 223 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: training camp we were talking about Jake Kumero. Well then 224 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: here comes MVS, here comes Equanimia st Brown, and both 225 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: of those guys have really been rising to the occasion. Uh, 226 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: and they're gonna need him, Mike. We talked about it 227 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: earlier this week. Allison is not coming back anytime soon. 228 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: Felt this scantling is off to a really good start, 229 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: had five really good contests. Packers need another five from him, 230 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: now they need another eight. One of the things I 231 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: realized in talking with him with some other reporters at 232 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: his locker on Wednesday after practice is just how confident 233 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: he is. We talked about the confidence of Jaire Alexander 234 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: and how he kind of wears that externally. The thing 235 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: I figured out in a sense talking with MVS is 236 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: that he's just as confident a player, but he kind 237 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: of kept it inside a little bit. He knew he 238 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: was walking into a situation. One of three rookie draft 239 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: picks at his position, Geronimo Allison was the guy starting 240 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: in the offseason program as the number three receiver, and 241 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: a job that Alison did not give up. Did not 242 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: really let anybody challenge him for it. Unfortunately, injuries have 243 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: have derailed his third NFL season, but he absolutely never 244 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: doubted what he could do in this league. And he 245 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: and he he doesn't come across, as you know, crossing 246 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: that line too arrogance, so to speak. He's just really 247 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: confident in what he can do. And I loved his 248 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: answer when he when he was asked, well, when did 249 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: you know you had earned the trust of Aaron Rodgers, 250 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: And he said when he started throwing me the ball. 251 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: I mean, but in a sense that that's really how 252 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: simple it is. And we've seen over the years West 253 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: rookies it can be difficult to make a huge impact 254 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: as a rookie in this offense with Aaron Rodgers as 255 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Now. Part of that is because the Packers 256 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 1: have been pretty well stocked at wide receiver over the years, 257 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: so they haven't had to ask a lot of rookies. 258 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,239 Speaker 1: But when you look at it from a statistical standpoint, 259 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: Davante Adams with four dred and forty six yards that's 260 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: the most receiving yards of any rookie in the Aaron 261 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: Rodgers quarterbacking era. And Valdes Scantling is less than a 262 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: hundred yards from already jumping over that. And it's just 263 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: it's very difficult in this league, not just Green Bay, 264 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,599 Speaker 1: for a for a rookie receiver to come in and 265 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: have those type of seasons. The cornerbacks are too good, 266 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: the schemes are too you know, complicated. It's tough to 267 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: be able to go and do it. What I like 268 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: about Valda Scantling is he has certainly the physical makeup, 269 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: but it's just some of those little things, as I've 270 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: reiterated a few times now, his footwork, some of the 271 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: stuff he does off the line of scrimmage, how he 272 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: gains separation as he gets down the field. It isn't 273 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: just all about his speed. It's not all about the 274 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: four three seven. It's about the other things he does. 275 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: And to get back to a point you made a 276 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: couple of minutes ago that I really like about him, 277 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: and as it relates to confidence and you know, jo 278 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: your Alexander to take you inside the locker room a 279 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: little bit. I mean he's walking around, he has the swagger. 280 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: He comes off the practice field, he has his headphones on. 281 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: Uh you know, he's saying hi to everybody. He's just 282 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: he's so extroverted, right, Valdis Scantling just comes in, he 283 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: sits in his locker, the old Jeff Janice locker. I 284 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: probably should have said that right at the end of 285 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: the receiver's row. He's on his phone, he's taken his time, 286 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: he's always there and he's just been that way since 287 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: the beginning. And if he comes up, he's cordial, he'll 288 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: talk to you. But it's just it's not like it's 289 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: it's extravagant or boisterous. It's just who he is. And 290 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: I really respect that. I think that's allowed him to 291 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: have a lot of success. The other underrated part of 292 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: his game is and I remember doing a story on 293 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: him back in the early I think it was towards 294 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: the end of O t A S actually about how 295 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: he was lining up in a lot of different spots, 296 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, on the boundary in the slot and what 297 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: I and the underrated part of his game is his 298 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: intelligence and how quickly he's picked everything up in this offense. 299 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: And Davante Adams said yesterday when he was asked about him, 300 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: said that was one of the things that stood out 301 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: from day one is that this is a smart dude, 302 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: and he's used he's used that intelligence to his advantage 303 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: to to be versatile right from the get go. And 304 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: then you combine six plus pounds four three speed, and then, 305 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: as I said, the confidence that he attributes to kind 306 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: of coming up on the rough side of St. Petersburg, Florida, 307 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: but a market that produces a lot of high caliber 308 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: football talent. He felt coming out of there. You know, 309 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: things didn't go the way he wanted at NC States, 310 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: so then he transferred to South Florida. That might have 311 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: created you know, some of the draft day weight, so 312 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: to speak, for him all the way to the fifth round. 313 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: But as you said, the quote that you pointed out, 314 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: he doesn't care about where he got drafted. Now he's 315 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: in the door and he's making an impact on this team. 316 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: And everybody's players path is different once they get the NFL. 317 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: Some guys, you know, it took Jordy Nelson three years 318 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: to get going. That's just the way it goes sometimes. 319 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: But what I like about Veldi Scandlings, he follows a 320 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: very similar path. When you look at Corey Linsley, when 321 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: you look at Brian Blog at Davante Adams. You know, 322 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: these young guys, Aaron Jones last year, I get thrown 323 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: in early and really can thrive. It's it's tough and 324 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: it's not easy to do, but if you're able to 325 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: do it, there's a really good opportunity for you to 326 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: have success in this offense moving forward and in the NFL. 327 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah all right, um, well, quickly West, before we run 328 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: out of time, it is time to enter the Cousins 329 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: Subs Best Seats in the House promotion. 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Okay, quickly we 337 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: mentioned the injury update with regards to Kentroll, Bryce, Brian 338 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: Bolaga back on the practice field on Wednesday, A good 339 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: sign for the Packers offensive line, and I'm Blake Martinez 340 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: back on the practice field too. I was surprised with that, 341 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: considering they were talking about the swelling I saw him 342 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: walking through the locker room. It's like you wouldn't know 343 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: anything that happened. And you look at the replay of 344 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: that ankle Injurne, it just it kind of makes you cringe. 345 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: But but yeah, Blake seems to be all right. But 346 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: to your point with Bolaga two, he's played through a 347 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: lot through with the course his career. I don't think 348 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: he gets enough credit for his toughness and what he's 349 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: been able to play through and play at a high 350 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: level with. But he'd be a huge addition for them 351 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: go into this game against Miami. If you can have 352 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: the two book end tackles available, yeah, absolutely, Well with that, 353 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: we need to call it a wrap on this edition 354 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: of Packers Unscripted. 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