1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: To Teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamra Judge. 2 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of the tat Seat 3 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: with myself, Teddy Mellencamp. 4 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 3: And Tambra Judge, and we have a very special guest. 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 4: One of my dearest friends. Hi, that I never thought 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 4: would happened. 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 3: I still can't believe it when we say it, Tamra, 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 3: I still am like, yeah, I kind of really do. Digger. 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: So we've got Alexis Billino with us, which we noticed. 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 5: You didn't change your name and your Instagram yet. What's 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 5: going on. 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a minute. I am legally Alexis Janssen, okay, 13 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 3: court document wise, however I. 14 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 4: Talk of you have already changed your name legally. 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: Well, now I don't know how it all works. We're 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 3: still figuring all that out. I talk about you a 17 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: lot when people ask me this question. I'm like, you know, 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: when I met Tamra, she was Tama Barney and she 19 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: didn't just instantly change the tree. You're done three. 20 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 4: Legally, I didn't change it for three years because it's 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 4: a pain in the ass. 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 3: Well, what the kids is the other thing? 23 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 4: There's no VIP line at DMV or so security office. 24 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 4: There's none of that. So you it's just it's just 25 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 4: time consuming and. 26 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: People know me Alexis Blino. So for work, I feel like, 27 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: do I keep it? Do I change it? You turned 28 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 3: over and it was just fine and no piccups with that. 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, right now we're just in. I did put 30 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: it on my marriage license. I am going to be 31 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 3: Alexis Jansen. So then it's just now it's just all 32 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: the paperwork. 33 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 4: Like you said, Well, then, plus, when you have kids, 34 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 4: it's difficult when they're in. 35 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 3: School or doctors or any Yeah, it's like and they're 36 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 3: also like mom, but you're a blie or your kids, 37 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: and I'm like yeah, but a lot of people get 38 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: remarried and change their last time. 39 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 4: I would love for you to change that. It's personal. 40 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 5: Just throwing that business, it's personal. 41 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, well moving on. 42 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, let's just start off with the fact that 43 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 4: you're married. You got married. 44 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: I am. I got the extra band. See it's little 45 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: because I actually never saw the extra band. Yeah, can 46 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 3: you we put the extra band? We did just a 47 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: little the same one. Custom it's turned around now, but yep, 48 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: and I'm not going to solder them because I might 49 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 3: want to just take the big rock off at some 50 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 3: point and just wear the little skinny guy. 51 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. 52 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 5: I love how that looks when it's beautiful skinny guy. 53 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: And that's I'm married, Tam. 54 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 4: I know. Can you believe that? Can you believe it? 55 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 5: Now? 56 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 3: And when I first started dating him, I said, we 57 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 3: can just stay engaged. We never need to get married again. 58 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 3: We both have our kids, we both have everything, and 59 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: then look what happens in two years. 60 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: And what would you say is your biggest excitement from 61 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 2: it all? 62 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 5: Like what's what's your happy spot from? 63 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, the day was more than 64 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 3: I could have even like I went in knowing exactly 65 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 3: what I wanted it to feel like, and it was 66 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: ten times more than that. But I think there is 67 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 3: a definite difference with marriage. And I don't know if 68 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 3: you feel this or not because you've been remarried, you know, 69 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 3: twice around it's or three times in my case, is 70 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: it's I don't know. I didn't feel this my first 71 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: time around. But the minute that we said I do, 72 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: and the minute I mean, our sex was even better. 73 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: And I'm like, how is that possible? Because we all 74 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: know that that was always great with our life. And 75 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 3: then I'm like, there's just this feeling. I don't know. 76 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. I don't know if 77 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 3: you felt that, Tamra when you had that with Eddie, 78 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 3: but like, yeah, there's this. When we woke up the 79 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: next morning, we were like, it does feel different. It's 80 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: before God. It's like it does there is something about it. 81 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: So thank God I turned my mind around instead of 82 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: saying no, we can stay engaged forever and then doing 83 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: I do before your family and friends and God, it 84 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: was like. 85 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 4: You had a very spiritual ceremony. Yes, Now the pastor 86 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 4: that married you, is this a longtime friend? Is he 87 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 4: the pastor at your church? Like, and by the way, 88 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 4: it was hot. 89 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: I'm sure his wife will agree with you. 90 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: He was hot. 91 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: He has he's literally forty, just turned forty. He has 92 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: four children, two adopted and two biological. And so they 93 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 3: have four children at forty years old, from five to 94 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: like two. I mean, they're busy and they're in the 95 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,119 Speaker 3: thick of it. So the funny story about this church, 96 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: you know, I'm pastor Jens and Franklin Free Chapel is 97 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: where I actually come from. It's Donald Trump's private pastor now, 98 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 3: but anyway, he's the pastor I was. Pastor Jensen Franklin 99 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 3: is the pastor that I my family grew up with. 100 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: I've have like I have the cell phones. We've gone 101 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: to their family events, like we grew up in that church. 102 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: But anyway, so this new pastor that we've only been 103 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 3: at this church for about three or four years. James 104 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: plays on the worship team. James actually found this church. 105 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 3: It's a very youth driven church. It's a lot of 106 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: like when John and I go, we're kind of the 107 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: oldest people there, but there's like a lot of other 108 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: parents and everybody comes. Now It's it's growing huge. They 109 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: just bought their first building. James, when I was at 110 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 3: rockbottom with my mom and I was you know, I 111 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: told I shared this with you. I told God. I 112 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 3: hated him for a few months because I was so 113 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 3: I was so broken watching what my mom went through, 114 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: thinking there's people out there that deserve that kind of 115 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 3: a death. But my mom, who won't even kill a 116 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: spider and praises God and loves the world and loves people, 117 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: is going through this unbelievably horrible experience. So I did 118 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: say hey, God, and so James found this church and literally, James, 119 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: my son is one of the saving graces, and he 120 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 3: just kept praying behind closed doors, like bring mom back 121 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: to you Lord, and we I mean, it is our 122 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 3: home church now and we've been these games for years. 123 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 3: Very religious, I would say spiritual. He he does have 124 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 3: a pastoral heart. I wouldn't want that for him because 125 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: I know pastors have a very difficult life. But he 126 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: will find his own path. But yes, he plays on 127 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 3: the worship team. He goes, even Kenna, they go to 128 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: instead of going to parties. There are a Tuesday night 129 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 3: at church bringing all their friends and youth to Kenna 130 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: just started a church group at her public school high school. 131 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: Like they're they're very into. 132 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 4: Me and Kenna are now friends on Instagram. 133 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 3: I'm just o case. 134 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 4: She didn't know that. 135 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 3: Okay, well watch every posts. She's only seven, oh, turning eighteen. 136 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: We don't even watch every single thing. 137 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: Well. 138 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 4: James led the prayer at your wedding and I saw, 139 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 4: I mean I got teary eyed. 140 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: It was beautiful and he wanted to We wanted to 141 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: give each kid the where they wanted to be part 142 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 3: of the wedding because we didn't have a wedding party. 143 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 3: It was it was our children, and so the twins 144 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: wanted the cake because that they wanted the cake and 145 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: they wanted to do the cake cutting, but they also 146 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: wanted to say a toast. But when when James we 147 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 3: offered him you could either pray at the rehearsal dinner 148 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 3: or at the wedding. But the wedding's gona have one 149 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty people. Are you going to feel comfortable 150 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 3: with that? It's so I remember a week before the 151 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 3: wedding and I go, Babe, I don't want to I 152 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 3: don't want to be like the fly on the wall 153 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 3: or like the nat the bothering you. But like, you 154 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: can't just go out and wing it. You need to 155 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 3: write something for this wedding. And he's like, mom, I 156 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 3: got you. I'm like, are you sure? I'm like, and 157 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: I sent him a couple of examples of other because 158 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: he's not done a wedding before, and he's just like 159 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 3: he kept like rolling it off. He's like, Mom, I 160 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: got you. It's all it's fine, I got you. And 161 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 3: then that prayer made everybody in the room cry. There 162 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: was not a dry. 163 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 4: There was a lot of toasts that happened after that, 164 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 4: and I have to tell you, I don't know if 165 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 4: it was the champagne, but I wanted so bad. I 166 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 4: haven't even told you this. I so badly wanted. I 167 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: don't want to cry, get up there and talk to 168 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 4: you and toast to you and John, because you know 169 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 4: what we went through terrible times, like you know, being 170 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 4: on the show together was so difficult, but now our 171 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 4: friendship and our bond is so solid and so strong, 172 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 4: and I just wanted to get up there and cheers. 173 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 4: Did Jesus jugs, That's what I wanted to do that 174 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 4: I did, you know, when I'm in a lawsuit with 175 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 4: your ex husband, not me, I'm not you that I'd 176 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 4: standing up there with one of my good friends ex boyfriend. 177 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: I mean, you. 178 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: Can't even make this ship up. And I'm like, Tamra, 179 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 4: this is not your time. You just sit down, you 180 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 4: got I think I just would have said, like how 181 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 4: proud I am and I could see so much love 182 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 4: between the two of you guys, and how you know 183 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 4: the evolution of our friendship and where we are now 184 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 4: and how we are both different and in different spots 185 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: and in different marriages now, and how much I just 186 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 4: love you guys together. 187 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 5: That's nice. 188 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 3: My entire guestless probably would have loved you to do that. 189 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: I have to ask a guest this question because now 190 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: here we are. 191 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 5: What happened with Heather Dubrow? 192 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 3: Well, you guys are finding out at the same time 193 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: as I am, because Watch What Happens Live? Is really 194 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: what I mean? My text exchange with her doesn't show 195 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 3: the answer that she gave on Watch What Happens Live. 196 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 3: It's a different friendship that I feel like I thought 197 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: I had with her. 198 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 4: I'm what did she say on What Happens Live? 199 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: She said, gosh, okay, well now you're really throwing me. Okay, 200 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: so I haven't seen it in what two weeks ago now, 201 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: but something to the effect of give me a second. 202 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 3: It was something to the effect of, you know, well, 203 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: that's a complicated question because you know, I'm friends with 204 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: with with Shannon, and you know, Terry and I aren't 205 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 3: really friends with Alexis and John as a couple. I'm like, 206 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: what the F does that mean? And it's like, okay, 207 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 3: you're not because my text exchange show different. We've gone 208 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 3: to dinner several times together. I was I was literally 209 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 3: my chin was on the floor. But at the same time, 210 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, she's gonna come up with something like 211 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 3: there's gonna be something following up with this, And then 212 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: it was just so it was so cold. I felt 213 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: her disingenuine from her, from the energy I felt from 214 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 3: her at that moment, I saw a shift in her 215 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 3: and it was like I felt at that point, I go, Okay, 216 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: I am just a TV friend of hers. I was 217 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: only always collateral damage as a TV friend because you know, 218 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: also keep in mind, Tamera, as you know, she shared 219 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 3: information on the end of season eighteen and disclosed private 220 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 3: information that was given to Heather by myself only for 221 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 3: her ears, not for the entire world to hear. And 222 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 3: you and I both know we share things with each 223 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 3: other that is not meant for the rest of the world, right, 224 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 3: you don't have. 225 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 4: To share Not sure what information she shared. 226 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: When you guys filmed the final scene on season eighteen 227 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: behind my back, yes, and she said, he has footage 228 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 3: of you hitting him. The fact that like the fact 229 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: that like Heather shared that information about her hitting him 230 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 3: with you all, and knowing that I had given her 231 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: that as a private moment, it was I'm baffled. That's 232 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: the first slap in my face. The second slap came 233 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 3: at Watch What Happens Live? When I would think she 234 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: would be like, yeah, I love it lo because if 235 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 3: anyone would have asked me if I'd been in the 236 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: hot seat with Andy, and he would have said, what 237 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 3: do you feel about Heather? You know, why didn't she 238 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 3: come to your wedding? She had a family event. 239 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 4: At her She told that she had to go to 240 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 4: her daughters. 241 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 5: Why didn't she tell you she did. 242 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 3: The same thing. That's what my exactly the same thing. 243 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 3: It was just and so why couldn't it have ended 244 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 3: at that? Why does she have to then say, well, 245 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 3: I'm friends with by the way, at fifty years old, 246 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: Why can't we all be friends together and not have 247 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: to Well, I don't. 248 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 4: Think anybody should dictate who they should be friends with. 249 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 3: Well, by the way, if you're fifty or even thirty 250 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: plus and you have to choose a lane, then you 251 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: are you are feckless. That is the word I would 252 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 3: like to use you lacking initiative. Feckless is the word 253 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 3: for her. 254 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 5: I don't know. 255 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 3: I'm laughing. Initiative, lacking initiative and strength of character, that 256 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: is what it means, so you. 257 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 4: Can't use big words on this podcast with us because. 258 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 5: She knew well enough to give us the definition. 259 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 3: Do you guys know you know what last time I 260 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 3: was on this Last time I was on this podcast 261 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: with you guys not long ago, when we were going 262 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 3: to watch Janet Jackson, Do you remember I gave a 263 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: word and your whole the whole team was like, that's 264 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 3: not a word. I'm like, look it up. I grat 265 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: I had any I was going to be an English major. 266 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 4: You've got it. What you have to understand that me 267 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 4: and Teddy barely made it through high school, like we 268 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 4: barely did? 269 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 5: You barely make it through this part? 270 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 4: We play Devil's Advocate. She's on Live TV. She's asked 271 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 4: she's castmates with Shannon. Do you think she said it 272 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 4: because she didn't want to upset Shannon? 273 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: Yes, And that's why she's feckless, because honestly, you can 274 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: still be a friend of someone and still be a 275 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: friend of the other person. You don't have to. I 276 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: don't know what power this woman has over everybody else, 277 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 3: but but for anyone to dictate who I'm going to 278 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 3: be friends with, you would be gone. Have you gonna 279 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 3: talk to her about it. Heather, Yeah, I have sent 280 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: probably five you know, you know when you you you 281 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 3: press the text and you're about to sit send and 282 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 3: you're like, okay, a raise. No, not gonna say okay send, 283 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 3: No'm not gonna send it. I've done it probably five 284 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: times that I was going to send her a text, 285 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 3: and I still I did text her right after mm hmm. 286 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: Let me just give you guys the info. 287 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 2: Okay, let's just pull up exactly what you said, because 288 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: I don't want we don't want to mince words. 289 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 3: No, I don't want to. I wanted to be here, 290 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: I said, Heather. I saw watch What Happens Live and confused? 291 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 3: Are your answer? You sounded cold and distant, like we 292 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 3: were never friends, and as if we had not all 293 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 3: four of us gone to dinner several times, et cetera. 294 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: I thought we were friends. I guess I valued our 295 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: friendship more than you did. Did the show get in 296 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: the way of our friendship? Question? Mark? Valid? Right? 297 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 5: Did you right back? 298 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? Right away? 299 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 5: What'd she say? 300 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: That is not what I meant at all. I'm sorry 301 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 3: it came off that way. Reunion was yesterday and I'm exhausted. 302 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: Let's please talk soon and discuss heart But in my mind, 303 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, first of all, that was I get that 304 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 3: you're exhausted, Tam. We know we've done enough reunions. It's 305 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 3: you are You are drained and we don't want but 306 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 3: you're drained. So I get that. But at the same time, 307 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 3: I'm just like, it didn't matter. The answer was just 308 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: I mean, what did you guys think hearing that answer, 309 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 3: knowing you know that her and I are friends and 310 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 3: have in the comment. 311 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 4: Okay, did I think the answer is great? 312 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: No? 313 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 4: I think the answer was Shannon's a castmate and I 314 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 4: don't want to piss her off. That's how I'm taking it. 315 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 3: Feckless. 316 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: I think if there's already somewhere feckless, you figure out 317 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: a way to be there. 318 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 4: Everybody's feckless. 319 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 5: But that's kind of. 320 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, like you and you and fuck you. 321 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: You want to yeah, yeah, you want to be somewhere. 322 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: In my opinion, if I want to be somewhere, I 323 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: figure out a way to be there. And uh, the 324 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: fact that she didn't go and then what's just you 325 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: know you it could have been another reason. But then 326 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: on top of it to double down and say what 327 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: she said and watch what happens live. I think that's 328 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 2: what really hurt you. 329 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 3: I'm very hurt. 330 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 5: I think I think the double whammy is the problem. 331 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: Everyone knows my children come first. Everyone knows it would 332 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: not matter like I get that she and she did 333 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 3: have this event. She told Tamor that which date. 334 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 4: It was her daughter's family it. 335 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 3: Was parent night, parents week. It was not complicated. I 336 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 3: was friends with Jen and still am and I'm friends 337 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: with you. It's not complicated. It's it's you can be 338 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: friends as a grown ass, mature woman with two different people. 339 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: Because all of Newport is divorced and seventy five percent 340 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: divorce rate, it's like you're gonna have to not choose lanes. 341 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: You've got to be able to keep the peace with 342 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 3: both and love both for where they're at. I don't 343 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: understand where you know. 344 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: Why she just wouldn't say I had my daughter's event 345 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: and loved her. 346 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: And the other answer she gave was there was another thing. 347 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: Andy asked her. It's almost like she is trying to 348 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: ice me out or just like, I don't know, I've 349 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: got to get to the bottom of this. But anyways, 350 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: she said to Andy, she goes she's a sweet girl. 351 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 3: She's lovely. It's like, sweet girl, lovely dude. How many 352 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 3: deep conversations have we had about life that we're going 353 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: through together? Like, I'm just I. 354 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 5: It sounds to me like your friendship isn't a priority. 355 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: To her, but it was to me. So that's where 356 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: That's where there's got to be another conversation. 357 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: Do you think that she truly had a core, deep 358 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: relationship with you or you think it was a TV 359 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: friendship because that came up again this season. 360 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 5: With somebody else. 361 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 3: If you would have asked me that two weeks ago, 362 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 3: a month ago, I would have said, I have a 363 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: true friendship with Heather, and I would I would have 364 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: been I'm loyal to I'm loyal to my friends. Now 365 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: I'm questioning it because of that answer, and because of 366 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 3: what happened, you know, like what happened last year at 367 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: season eighteen, because when she gave the information and she 368 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: wasn't to share. I forgave her for that, because I 369 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: do feel like that, especially in this industry that we're in, 370 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 3: reality TV is not easy. We all know this, We've 371 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 3: all been there. You're friendships yes, within a cast, yes, 372 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 3: but there's also it's possible, Tamra, if you have a 373 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 3: good heart and you stand to your truth and you 374 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: have strength in your character. 375 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. 376 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 3: However, now I am definitely I'm I'm gobsbacked to be honest, 377 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, WHOA like I? Because you know I was 378 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 3: hurt by you because you were in that scene. But 379 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 3: how did we work through it, Tamra, because you know what? 380 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 3: We were honest and you said, lex, I am filming 381 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 3: a reality show. This is what you know? It is 382 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 3: it is. I got it. I get it. And here's 383 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 3: the dell. I have a very big capacity for understanding 384 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 3: the realm of what work we do. I get that 385 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 3: there is TV moments, and that's what I always called 386 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: it when everyone asks how can you be such good 387 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 3: friends with her? She has she crept on you, she 388 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: did this. I go, no, that was a TV moment. 389 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 3: It's fine. We moved past it. We talked it through, 390 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 3: we cried, we yelled, we did this, we did that. 391 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 3: Here we are. The friendship has enough of a core 392 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 3: strength in it itself that it doesn't the other stuff 393 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 3: is kind of manouche. However, I feel that now I've 394 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 3: had two knockdowns with Heather, and I just feel and 395 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: I want to move past this. I don't really want 396 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 3: to take all this. It doesn't as much time, but 397 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 3: I just I'm really hurt. And I also don't think 398 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 3: she realizes the weight of her words on that episode 399 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 3: and also the weight of her words on the watch 400 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 3: What Happens Live. I also don't think she considered or 401 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 3: even put herself in my shoes about disclosing private information 402 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 3: that was not hers to share with America. Was not 403 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 3: I told you, I told her. Guess whose mouth it 404 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 3: didn't come out of? You didn't tell I did not 405 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 3: them to do that scene did not at all. 406 00:18:54,800 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 4: Let's move on to happier news. Maybe Teddy not ready 407 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 4: to move from okay? 408 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 5: Is there anybody that anybody want to drink? 409 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 4: It could be a while. 410 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 5: Is there anybody that you disinvited to the wedding? 411 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 3: Yes, but obviously you saw that Teddy. 412 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: I don't know which you don't even have to say 413 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 2: the name. But there is somebody. And that's not a rumor. 414 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 3: It's not a rumor. No I did. But but we've 415 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 3: we have patched things up, and she did wish me well. 416 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 3: It's Jen Perdronte. Obviously it's all over the tabloids. We know, 417 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 3: but yeah, because here's the problem. My wedding list started 418 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 3: at eighty. I wanted to keep it very small. It's 419 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 3: a very intimate venue that we had it at, as 420 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: Tamber will tell you the room. I wanted more freedom 421 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: and more bigger space for all the tables. I didn't 422 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 3: want it to be, you know, crammed and they're like 423 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 3: sardines and all this. So my vision was one way. Well, 424 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: the list soon got up to one sixty, and the 425 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 3: capacity of the room is one fifty, so I might 426 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 3: mean people to catch the flu and like COVID and 427 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 3: things like fast. I'm like, I'm like, people need to 428 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: like drop off this list, like I don't know what 429 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: it is. Ok fine, your kids okay, fine, Okay, your 430 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: kid's got the boogers, Okay. 431 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're kind of ugly. 432 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 3: You need to be there. So I need people to cancel. 433 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 4: So if you're not on a zepic, fine. 434 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 3: So I send out my save the dates and and 435 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 3: then you know, a month goes by and Jen and 436 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 3: I are talking before this, we're talking almost every day. 437 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 3: She's known my wedding dress scandals and all the things 438 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 3: that are happening with everything, And because it takes a lot. 439 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 3: It takes an army to make a wedding happen. And 440 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 3: so anyways, all of a sudden, I'm going in for 441 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 3: this last minute boot like not really emergency, but kind 442 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 3: of emergency boob job. Didn't want to have them done again. 443 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 3: But by the way they look smaller girls, huh. 444 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 5: They look very cute, Thank you very frank. 445 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 3: I had a reconstructive job boob job done because here's why. 446 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 3: My left side had encapsulated, so it was like getting 447 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 3: hard and growing up here. 448 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 4: And then she had a boob under her chin. Okay, 449 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 4: I did. 450 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 3: I was starting to grow in or my chin. Yea, 451 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 3: it was going to be really bad. And the wedding dress. 452 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 3: So then but then also guess what happened my implant, 453 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 3: So I had two things on this side. So I 454 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 3: it was kind of emergency, but not really like I 455 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 3: wasn't going to die, but you know it was. It 456 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 3: was a big deal. Anyways, so I text her. She 457 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 3: doesn't text back, even after knowing that does not say 458 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 3: how to go you okay, And I'm like, this is 459 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 3: weird and it's been a month, so I disinvite her 460 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 3: because I'm like, I'm five months out from my wedding. 461 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 3: I'm not inviting someone to my very you know, I 462 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: need people to drop off. I'm like, I'm not inviting 463 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 3: her to my wedding when when like it's like she's 464 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 3: not even checking in after knowing that I just had 465 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 3: this happen. We have patched it up. By the way, Jen, 466 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 3: I'm sorry that this is all coming out now, but yeah, 467 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 3: we're invite somebody. I just text her and said, I'm 468 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 3: so sorry. But but she never really got the invitation. 469 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 3: She got the saved, she got to save the date. 470 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 3: But I just said, and you never were at right now, Jen, 471 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 3: we haven't spoken in a month. My wedding is five 472 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,719 Speaker 3: months out. I really I don't have the space at 473 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 3: the moment to I mean my space in my heart, 474 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: not the space in the venue. But like I feel 475 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 3: like we have distanced, there's some distance growing between us. 476 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 3: So at this point, I think it's just it's just 477 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 3: a better if if you know, we've so it was more. 478 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 4: About you guys, weren't talking like you used to. You 479 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 4: felt like she was pulling away. 480 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 3: Over in one month's time, camera and like people. 481 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 4: Lived like walking distance from time. 482 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 3: I know, and we we talked almost every like she'd 483 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 3: be in carpool. I'd be like, She'd like call you 484 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 3: right back, okay. And then it was like we were 485 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 3: talking like one or two times a day, one a day, 486 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 3: once every three days. I don't know, but there was 487 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 3: a weird you know, you know, when you know you 488 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 3: could feel. 489 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 5: A badness stop filming. 490 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 3: No, no, no. We were friends the whole time she's 491 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 3: been filming this whole season except for that. When that 492 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 3: one it's a month, it started to dwindle. And then 493 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, this is a weird. It just feels weird. 494 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 3: I don't want to invite someone in my wedding who 495 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 3: I haven't spoken to and over a month, because every 496 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 3: single person on that wedding list I've known for over 497 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 3: two and a half for years. She was one of 498 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 3: the newer friends that I had known. So I'm like, 499 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 3: you know, there are people that I still want to 500 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 3: have come and and you know, so it was just 501 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 3: it was. 502 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 4: Guys are in better terms now? 503 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 3: We are right now? 504 00:22:58,800 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good. 505 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 3: We have We have texted back and forth since then. 506 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 3: She text me on my wedding day and just said, 507 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 3: I know you're going to beautiful. I said, you know what. 508 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 3: I know, it's last minute. It feels like you should 509 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 3: be here if you can. Ryan want to slap on 510 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 3: a wedding you know, a wedding outfit and get here. 511 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 3: I'll make sure there's space for you. So I reinvited 512 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 3: her kind of and you know, yeah, I just we're 513 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,719 Speaker 3: in a good spot. She's like, I'm in San Diego 514 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: because my son's you know, getting his mareen some kind 515 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 3: of ceremony. So yeah, but we're in a decent space now. 516 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 4: All right, Well that's good and that's what met life's about, 517 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 4: right yeah. 518 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, see, that's how you can forward. 519 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 5: Tell you moving forward. 520 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 4: Did you hear from anybody that you were surprised to 521 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 4: hear from the day of your wedding? 522 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 3: Well, like, I mean, Heather text me the day before 523 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 3: and the day after I think, and then Andy co 524 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 3: went text me the day after when the People article 525 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 3: came out and was like, I don't remember now, so 526 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, you look beautiful. I'm so happy you fell 527 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: in love or whatever to move back and forth. I know. 528 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 3: So that was kind of out of left field. But 529 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 3: obviously we have a very good rule relationship because I 530 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 3: was the twelfth housewife. I know, you were number four, yes, 531 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 3: four of all, so think about how many hundreds of 532 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 3: housewives there are. 533 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 4: Now you were four and I was twelve. He's always 534 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 4: good about stuff like that. 535 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 3: Or eleven, I'm eleven. I'm sorry, I was eleven even. 536 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 4: I don't know what number I am, but I mean, 537 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 4: I feel like he is very protective of all his 538 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 4: housewives past and present. I agree, always stands up for them. 539 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 3: That was very sweet. I don't know how he does that, 540 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 3: but anyways, Yeah, so there were there were you know, 541 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 3: I mean, jim my ex text me. Yeah, yeah, he 542 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 3: texted me what wait for? What is your. 543 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 4: Ex husband text you the day of your wedding the 544 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 4: day before? He just day before, I hope you choke 545 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 4: on your chicken? 546 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: What? 547 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 4: What did he say? No? 548 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 3: It was actually very sweet. He goes, I'm wishing you 549 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 3: a blessed day or a happy day, or I hope 550 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 3: you have a great day something like that. Hope, but 551 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 3: was great day tomorrow something like that. So I think 552 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 3: that was it was very nice, very nice. 553 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 4: I didn't get that text from Simon. 554 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 3: With those texts that, I was like, Okay, oh my gosh, 555 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 3: you're close with Joe. 556 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: So Joe was there right, yes, yes, have you spoken 557 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 2: to her about Slade trying to act like a housewife 558 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 2: this season? 559 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 3: You know, she doesn't really talk about him a whole lot. 560 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 3: I think it's more of me wanting to talk about it. 561 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 3: She's like so over that doesn't even she's kind. 562 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 4: Of like married and she has moved on and it's 563 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 4: been like two decades decade or two yeah. 564 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 5: Two decads. But I can't help myself. 565 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: She's just kind of like, why did I ever date him? Alexis, 566 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 3: can you please remind me? And I'm like, I don't know. 567 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 3: We can say that to each other. 568 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 4: Let's talk about our relationship with as couples like me 569 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 4: and Eddie, you and John. So you know Eddie really 570 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 4: likes John and things did oh yeah, and he really 571 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 4: thinks you're just like the sweetest, kindest, never has a 572 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 4: bad thing to say about anyone. I mean even this 573 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 4: season us talking and you would say to me, no 574 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 4: matter whatever I was saying to you, like she was 575 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 4: so mean to me now, Tamra, Okay, let's think about 576 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 4: this even if it was Shannon, Let's think about this like, like, 577 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 4: let's talk this through. Maybe you don't need to be 578 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 4: mad at her, like you are a type of person 579 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 4: that can see both sides for sure. And Eddie has 580 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 4: acknowledged that and acknowledged just like the friendship, because trust me, 581 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 4: when I told him I was friends with you, he goes, not. 582 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 5: Jesus Jugs. 583 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 4: I know you told me yeah, And I'm like, yeah, 584 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 4: Jesus Jugs. And then after he's like, you know what, 585 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 4: she's a really good person. She's a really good person. 586 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 3: But you know what's funny, Tamara, I can never fault 587 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 3: you or Heather that season or Vicky Vicky kind of 588 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 3: Vicky not. You know, I'm talking about back when we 589 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 3: were filming like season eight. Let's say when you and 590 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 3: Heather were reading and I think you were you guys 591 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 3: were sniffing the you know, something wasn't right. I was. 592 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 4: I thought you meant. I thought you meant the booger 593 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 4: sugar or whatever. 594 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 3: You are sniffing out that. I think you and Heather 595 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 3: could sniff that my marriage wasn't perfect. Well, I think 596 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 3: that you don't see the love that you saw with 597 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 3: John and I maybe wonder could have seen that. Oh 598 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 3: good god. Well, but I mean when John and I 599 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 3: walk in a room, people are like, wow, you guys 600 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 3: like they feel the energy of the love that we 601 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 3: have for each other. Right, and I think that you 602 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 3: can feel that out of couples that really you guys 603 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 3: idly look related. Sorry, but I said. 604 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 5: It, we do. You go a little bit a little bit. 605 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we look related. That's not good because that's incest. Well, 606 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 3: you're not gonna have any kids. 607 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 4: So it's okay. 608 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 3: If I go down my chart and I find out 609 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 3: that he's a relative of mine, he's from Netherlands, I'm 610 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 3: from I'm from. 611 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 4: God, you're not having kids. 612 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 3: We're not You're not related. I'm not even let my 613 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 3: mind go you are horrible. I'm not letting my mind 614 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 3: go there. 615 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, he's your brother. 616 00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 5: That's okay. 617 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, kids, it's good. 618 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 3: You go look good. Who says it's fine is that 619 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 3: the Bible is her? 620 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 4: She gets done the Bible. 621 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 3: I'm just joking anyway. 622 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 4: But you guys, what I'm saying is, you guys make 623 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 4: a very good couple. I mean, he's handsome, you like. 624 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 4: You guys look like the top of a wedding cake. 625 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 3: Okay, well I could start that career. 626 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 4: That that's me giving you a compliment in some fucking 627 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 4: weird way. Okay, if your brother's brother and sister and your. 628 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: Fucking camra giving you a compliment by also alienating half 629 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: of our viewership. 630 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm just saying. 631 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 3: I'm learning Tambera's compliments. They come very far in fee 632 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 3: between you. But when they do, you're just the top 633 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 3: of a wedding cake. That's her. Hey, it's it's the truth. 634 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 3: And and you know John feels the same about Eddie 635 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 3: and you. I feel the same about you, and it 636 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: is weird. I just think it's very inspirational. First of all, 637 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 3: I told everyone watch our love story of Blossom, like 638 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 3: just watch, just if everybody just sits back last year 639 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 3: when I was crying, crying every single day in filming, 640 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 3: well when it started air, it wasn't crying filming. I 641 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 3: was crying when it aired. How it wasn't really the 642 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 3: true story being shown. You and me both system Okay, 643 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 3: so we got that together. But anyways, we trauma bonded, 644 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 3: as we've been Yes, we trauma bonded. Awesomely known fact 645 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: that we trauma bonded. But anyway, I just said, Johnny, 646 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 3: on nights we'd cry together or even with you. I've 647 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 3: said this to you. It's like when when America really 648 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 3: sees like, they give us a couple of years, let 649 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 3: it unfold. Let everybody get past the fact that, you know, 650 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 3: the hotter, younger castmate took the boyfriend that broke up 651 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 3: with the other girl. So if that's really that's what 652 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: America thought, that's what the that's what it looked like, 653 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 3: and that's what it came across as. And so I thought, 654 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 3: once everybody really sees how genuine it is and what happened, 655 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 3: you can't break that love story. It's just it's a 656 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 3: beautiful love story. And it's the same with our friendship 657 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 3: camera because arch enemies become besties. How does that happen? 658 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 3: It's just one of those arcs and in the story 659 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: that every producer wants. But it's true. 660 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 4: Well, I think people grow and people change, and that's 661 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 4: been you know, our situation. For sure. You're out of 662 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 4: a marriage that didn't suit you and I'm out of 663 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 4: a marriage that was not great for me, and we're 664 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 4: different places in our life. 665 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 3: And we both have good hearts. And that's what even 666 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 3: though reality different, but I know, well that's what I'm 667 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 3: going to say. Even though Reality TV doesn't always like 668 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 3: to show that. 669 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: No. 670 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 4: So you know, with reality TV, they're going to show 671 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 4: your strongest, you know, personality, and mine just happens to 672 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 4: be fuck you, fuck you, fuck your fuck you my opinion, 673 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 4: that's my strong that's that's me. And and I mean 674 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 4: it's worked long as running housewife. Not proud of it 675 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 4: about the. 676 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 3: Not proud of. 677 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 4: It, but you know, it's that's what they show. Do 678 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 4: they show other sides of me? 679 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: No? 680 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 4: Do they show me checking in on my friends and all, 681 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 4: you know, and being a good mom and no, But 682 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 4: you know, I I've accepted it. I took that villain 683 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 4: role seventeen years ago. 684 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, they just planted that hat on you. And 685 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 3: guess what role I took the dits even though I'm 686 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 3: coming in with words, y'all don't know, I'm I'm a 687 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 3: good one no longer. 688 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 4: I think they made a huge mistake not bringing you back. 689 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 4: Huge mistake. I think that it was the Shannon of 690 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 4: it all. If you came back in different circumstances, you 691 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 4: would steal be on the show. 692 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 3: If I would have came back where we were originally 693 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 3: talking and John Jansen was not in my vocabulary, I 694 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 3: didn't even know. I mean, he kind of knew who 695 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 3: I was, but I literally did not even know. I 696 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 3: had to go do a lot of research after that 697 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 3: night of Quite Woman because I was feeling the butterflies 698 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 3: and the weird things and I'm like, oh, guys, just no, 699 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna no no. But anyway, so then I 700 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 3: learned a lot and I maybe had seen one episode 701 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 3: because I wasn't even watching back then. At that point, 702 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 3: my mom was dying, so the only thing I was 703 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 3: doing with flying to call her out or to keep 704 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 3: my mom off her deathbed. But so it's just it's 705 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 3: so bizarre. But if I would have come back like that, 706 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 3: you know, the newly single Alexis, or even if I 707 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 3: would have just gotten a little bit better of not 708 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 3: such a skewed storyline, I think America could have liked 709 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 3: me and would have liked me. But it all works 710 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 3: out for a reason, and I feel that now I'm 711 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 3: exactly where I'm supposed to be, and it was all 712 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 3: exactly where it was supposed to happen. Like what happened 713 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 3: is God's timing, even though it doesn't make sense at 714 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: the moment, that was God's timing. 715 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, what I would say is, what would you 716 00:32:53,960 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 4: say to the people out there that doubt your relationship John, 717 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 4: even though you guys are now married, Like I posted pictures, 718 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 4: I got some hateful dms and I don't I mean, 719 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 4: I actually spend the time and said, you don't know 720 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 4: who she is? 721 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 3: Oh that's you. 722 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 4: Know, And normally that thing I would just be black bitch, 723 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 4: But no, I like took the time like and people 724 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 4: would say back to me, you know what, You're right, 725 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 4: You're absolutely right. So, like, does that stuff affect you anymore? 726 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 4: The people that are coming at you saying negative things 727 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 4: about your relationship with John. 728 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: You know. 729 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I would be lying if I said no, 730 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 3: it never affects me. But what I will say is 731 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 3: that I think going through watching rewatching Season eighteen unfold 732 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 3: the way it did from reality TV perspective and not 733 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 3: the reality of what the story really was. I think 734 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 3: that I was knocked down so low and I was 735 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 3: already solow you knew this and me coming back It took. 736 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 3: It took how many phone calls, exhausting phone calls on 737 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 3: me and you and hell saying nope, I'm not going 738 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 3: and you're like you guys were like begging me and 739 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 3: like all the exhausting phone calls. 740 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 4: Well, Heather rallied for you to come back to the show. 741 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 3: Oh, she was my number one reason why its me 742 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 3: on we spent. 743 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 4: Let me just tell you why this bitch got fired. 744 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 4: And instead of rallying for this bitch come back, she 745 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 4: was saying, I want Alexis back, I want a Lexus back, 746 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 4: I want I'm. 747 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 3: Hey, what about me? 748 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 4: Hello? You can have two friends, yeah, alexis a better friend. 749 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. But so anyways, being knocked down so hard on 750 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 3: season eighteen, and I didn't I kept asking God why 751 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 3: And I was still kind of saying, God, I hate you, God, 752 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 3: what are you doing this to be for? Why are 753 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 3: you breaking me even further down? And here's the truth. 754 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 3: And here's why God is so amazing is the entire 755 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 3: time I'd be on my knees doing that and I'd say, 756 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 3: I hate you. I hate you God. There's a word 757 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 3: for it begins with an L. And I'm now I'm 758 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 3: losing my dictionary brain. But there's a word that smart 759 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 3: in the not so smart. After all, in the biblical world, 760 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,240 Speaker 3: there is this L word and it is about how 761 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 3: God gives you the ability, like he allows the space 762 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 3: for you to have this hate for him at the 763 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 3: moment because you don't understand the entire story and so 764 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 3: and then all the while I'm on my knees just 765 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 3: like God, why, why me? Why? And he was always there. 766 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 3: I heard his voice as clear as day, and he'd say, Lexi, 767 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 3: I got you, Lexi. I'm here, Lexi. You're gonna get 768 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 3: you one something better for you. He's like, and so 769 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 3: here we are. I think at the end of the day, 770 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 3: breaking me down that Lobe being the most hated person 771 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 3: in America for Bravo World and a lot of America 772 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 3: for you know, six months of my life to where 773 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 3: I have to like basically hibernate and get in death 774 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 3: threats and you know all the things my kids had 775 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 3: to go through and. 776 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 4: Seeing your comments on insight shut off. 777 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 3: For six months, I mean it was it was really 778 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 3: not something I should have ever had to experience. But anyways, 779 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 3: coming full circle with that whole story, I feel like 780 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 3: God did it because he was like, I'm building you 781 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 3: up to be stronger and to show people that you 782 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 3: can make it through and whether that's storm and also 783 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 3: that maybe everything you see isn't what you think it is, 784 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 3: you know, because now look at how. 785 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 4: And I'm getting you off this fucking show. 786 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, and now you're happy. 787 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. And I mean if that's what I love is 788 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 3: when people see john and I out at a restaurant 789 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 3: or just anything, they come up they're just like, wow, 790 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 3: we see it, we get it, and that's. 791 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 4: All that's all that you have, like a. 792 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 3: And it's not it's not fake. And we didn't do 793 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 3: it for TV. We didn't do it for what everybody 794 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 3: thought we did because guess you, I mean all of 795 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 3: you can imagine we would have. I would have I 796 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 3: would have wanted to end it this, I. 797 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 4: Could all this, Hey could have destroyed your relationship with him, Yes, 798 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 4: very easily. Let's talk about what the wedding. 799 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: Like. 800 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 4: Let the listeners hear about like getting near the. 801 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 5: Hats, the hats what like? 802 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 2: Was that? 803 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 5: Kimo Sabi? I was like, what the heck is going 804 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 5: on here? 805 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 3: So when I was planning this wedding with Johnny, I said, Babe, 806 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 3: I go, you might not like my ideas we you know, 807 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 3: and he had. His idea was the circle of love, 808 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,439 Speaker 3: the round, you know. Because we were talking, I said, 809 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 3: what about a U shape? I don't want to do 810 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 3: just just people in rows? During the ceremony, during the 811 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 3: ceremony part of it, and he goes, well, what about 812 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 3: a circle of love? And I said, I don't even 813 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,439 Speaker 3: know if that's possible. So I call my wedding planner. 814 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 3: I'm like, is that do you think? What would this 815 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 3: look like? How could we do it? So we started 816 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 3: doing all these mock ups and these ideas and I'm 817 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 3: just like, we're going with it or do it. She's like, 818 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 3: I've never heard of it, never done it. Let's go 819 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 3: with it. So we did it because we thought we're 820 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 3: not having a wedding party. We don't want I didn't 821 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 3: want to walk down the aisle. The only reason I 822 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 3: walked down the aisle was because my children and John's 823 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 3: children were like, no, you have to walk to my dad. 824 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 3: You have to walk to John, like you have to 825 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 3: you have to walk to to see golf cart. 826 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 4: It half the way that Druss was out, I was 827 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 4: in the grass, so that the setting was we're in 828 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 4: like the woods, but you're it's yeah, and it's all 829 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 4: with huge like I want to say, oak trees and 830 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 4: then there's circle around you guys, right, and they get 831 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 4: to oak tree. 832 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 3: Can you guys can see it on my Instagram you 833 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 3: can see the I mean, I'm and I'm telling you 834 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 3: it was. It was breathtaking. And the reason we married 835 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 3: there because we were looking at destination weddings. We were 836 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 3: looking at a ton of venues. I walked in there. 837 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 3: My mom is from Colorado, so she's a mountain girl. 838 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 3: She's always loved the mountains. I'm a water girl. I 839 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 3: want to live on the ocean. We walked into that 840 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 3: venue and I'm literally it's probably the fifth place John 841 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 3: and I had looked at. And I walked in and 842 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 3: I was holding his hand and I stopped and I 843 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 3: like dropped his hand and He's like, what babe, And 844 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 3: I go, I feel my mom here, my mom. This 845 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 3: is where I feel my mom. This is where we're 846 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 3: getting married. He goes, done, where what they do you have? 847 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 3: They had no Saturdays for two and a half years. 848 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 3: There's not one Saturday you could get married on. And 849 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 3: in the months that we wanted to think you could 850 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 3: pick some of the off months. But so I'm like, 851 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 3: well that we have to get married on a Friday 852 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 3: or Sunday. And John's like, get married on a Friday whatever, 853 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 3: And so she, you know, we that day we didn't 854 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 3: even have I didn't have a wedding planner in mind. 855 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 3: I didn't have any other thing. I just said, my 856 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 3: mom is here, John, we are doing it here, and 857 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 3: he's like a million percent. 858 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: This is it. 859 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 3: And so then yeah, then you have to have golf 860 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 3: cards because it is a golf course, and you do 861 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 3: have to they close down the golf court. I mean 862 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 3: it's a wedding estate also. But yeah, it's unbelievably magical, 863 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 3: Like the whole thing was magical. 864 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 4: Your dress absolutely beautiful. 865 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 3: Wighs more than me, It weighed more than me. 866 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was all crystal and it was like a 867 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 4: champagne color. 868 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 3: Would you call it. It's champagne and then champagne and 869 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 3: tope and then all they're just all the jewels. And 870 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 3: so that was another thing. 871 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 4: I just was a long ceremony, it was, and it 872 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 4: was a very long like normally you go and do 873 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 4: the ceremony and twenty thirty it was. 874 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 3: It was thirty to forty. 875 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was probably forty minutes. But it was beautiful, 876 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 4: it was fun, it was entertaining. 877 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,399 Speaker 3: We didn't really want it to be that long, by 878 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 3: the way. 879 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 4: No, I thought, I don't thought I don't know that. 880 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 3: I don't know that people. 881 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 5: Loved when you say each other ceremony. 882 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 3: We're like, Okay, this is getting a little annoying because I. 883 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 4: Were the alling asleep or anything. I'm saying like it 884 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 4: was like fun, like your kids were involved and you 885 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 4: had different like it was like a it was like 886 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 4: a Broadway play. 887 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was kind of like we well, we definitely 888 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 3: wanted to both say vows to our children, like I 889 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 3: wanted to say it to his kids. He wanted to 890 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 3: say it to my kids, because we're not just marrying 891 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 3: each other, we're marrying each other's children. All six we're 892 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 3: all six glue now, and so that was part of it. 893 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 3: Not took what three minutes each speech and then or 894 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 3: or whatever vows to each other. And then John and 895 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 3: I's vows were three and a half. We were we 896 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 3: were like, did you practice your vowels? And like, yeah, 897 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 3: I cried every time. He's like, I've done it five, 898 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 3: I've cried every time. I'm like I've cried every time. 899 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm gonna have to say hemorrhoid every time. 900 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 3: I'm hemorrhoid, hemorrhoid eyd because it's like. 901 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 4: Dick and balls, dick and balls, dick and balls. Anytime 902 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 4: I changed in mind, anytime. 903 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 3: He started to get tear out'd be like okay. And 904 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 3: then because I just didn't want to ruin my two 905 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 3: hours of makeup. But so anyways, so that took time. 906 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,760 Speaker 3: And then our pastor is not long. Is long winded 907 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 3: because he knows us and loves us and obviously knows 908 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 3: a lot of the story behind it. So he end 909 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 3: up being a very long ceremony. Nobody knows this, Okay, 910 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 3: you don't even yes, you know, no, you don't, okay. 911 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 3: A week a week before my ceremony, the singer I 912 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 3: had one song I was gonna walk down to Alex 913 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 3: Warren's Ordinary Okay, it's so ordinary because it's now on 914 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 3: every top pop station anyway. So I'm like, okay, no, 915 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 3: I'm not doing that anymore because I don't want it 916 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 3: to be ordinary. So I was I was like, I 917 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 3: need God to be walking me down the aisle. So 918 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,760 Speaker 3: I was like going through all the songs my mom loved, 919 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 3: was going through all the all these things, and then 920 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Oceans popped up one day when 921 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 3: I was driving and it's on my list, my playlist 922 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 3: and I'm like, that's what I want. So I send 923 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,479 Speaker 3: it to my MC guy and the guy that's running 924 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 3: the production of the whole show, of the whole wedding. 925 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 3: I send it to my wedding planner. I send it 926 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 3: to Johnny and Johnny goes because it's the string cord 927 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 3: tet version right, And Johnny goes, too boring, can't do that. 928 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 3: It's got to have the words. He goes, the string 929 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 3: cord tet version of the song is not it's not 930 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 3: powerful enough, and I go, Okay. Then I'm getting a 931 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 3: singer called my pastor and text my pastor both pastors, 932 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 3: and I said, who can sing this from the church? 933 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 3: Who can sing this and nail it? And I go 934 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 3: it needs to be impacted, it needs to be nailed, 935 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 3: And they're like, Joey can do it. I'm like perfect. 936 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 3: So in a week's time, he practiced with the string quartet, 937 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,720 Speaker 3: nailed it, nailed it, and I was fighting back tears, 938 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 3: but I felt the Holy Spirit come in during that song. 939 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 3: Was exactly what we wanted. And then I said, I 940 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 3: took it even a step further and I said, when 941 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 3: I get to John, I don't want to just go 942 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,359 Speaker 3: right into the ceremony. I want to sit there and 943 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 3: really just talk to the Lord and just you know, 944 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 3: bring his presence full lee into the circle. And so 945 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 3: that's what we did, and it was beautiful. We had 946 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 3: chills and tears and all the good feels. 947 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 4: Alexis, what about you did a rose ceremony for your parents? 948 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 4: Can you tell us a little. 949 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 3: Bit about that? So yeah, that was another touch, which 950 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,760 Speaker 3: is why the ceremony went forty minutes. But we wanted 951 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 3: to I've I'm an orphan. I've lost both parents and 952 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 3: I lost my stepdad. So I've lost my dad and 953 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 3: she thousand and eight, my stepdad in twenty twelve, and 954 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,839 Speaker 3: my mom in twenty twenty four, so or twenty twenty three. 955 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,280 Speaker 3: So it's like, I you know, a lot of loss. 956 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 3: And then John lost his father figure whose name was Bill. 957 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 3: He lost him when he was twelve. That's who basically 958 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 3: John felt like raised him. So we decided to put 959 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 3: candles that were you can't have burning candles, so we 960 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 3: had the light up candles there and then they were 961 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 3: in that beautiful little caraft kind of thing, and so 962 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 3: we decided to stick roses in there just to honor them. 963 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 3: To another worship song just to bring ud. So yeah, 964 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 3: that was our way. Do you know what it took 965 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 3: for how many times I had to say hemorrhoid for that? 966 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 4: How many times? And by the way, do you have hemorrhoids? 967 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 3: Is that why I have a hemorrhid? But it just 968 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 3: it's funny to like talk about it. 969 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 5: I love that. 970 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 3: It's funny because it's like, who that's the ugliest word 971 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 3: ever you've ever heard? And it's like makes you laugh, 972 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 3: right see look at your face. Yeah, it makes you laugh. 973 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 4: So it's like it makes you laugh or it makes 974 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 4: you itch. 975 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 3: What's gonna make me not have a tear? And that 976 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 3: was the word that just comes to mind. 977 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 5: Oh, we love it. 978 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,879 Speaker 3: And then we went up to the reces option. Yeah, 979 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 3: and then let's talk about the hat. Okay, so this 980 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 3: is the other thing that I wanted. I told you, well, 981 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 3: on top of all the entertainment that you were there 982 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 3: for the violinists. 983 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,839 Speaker 4: Violinists, you had a rap song we did. 984 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 3: That was a surprise. That was that was that was 985 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 3: He's He's just incredible. But then the hats were something 986 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 3: where we were like we want them to really take 987 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 3: like a true like something home so the Rancher Hat Bar, 988 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 3: they do customize hats, which is funny because you guys 989 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 3: just filmed us on this episode. Emily was is. 990 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 5: That the same place? 991 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 3: No, But it was honest. 992 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 4: It was honestly like, I'm like, by the way, I 993 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 4: gave the name of that and I was supposed to 994 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 4: film there. 995 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,359 Speaker 3: Oh well that's honey, Yeah, just throwing that out there. 996 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 3: Do you know how many times that happens with the crew. 997 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 3: But anyway, we we The Rancher Hat Bar customized my 998 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 3: bachelorette hat too, and so when we were there, I 999 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 3: was just like, Johnny, this is what I mean. Each 1000 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 3: hat's like one hundred and eighty bucks and you get 1001 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 3: to put whatever jewels. Line never stopped because we had 1002 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 3: a d People try to get a custom hat and. 1003 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 4: It takes time. You know, you got to do the band. 1004 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 3: You gotta do the brand to kick out whatever you 1005 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 3: then you didn't have to do the branding. But we 1006 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,879 Speaker 3: thought it was called to have the aj A because 1007 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 3: then it's like it's from our wedding. It's just a moment. 1008 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had brandan on the back of my mom 1009 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 4: I thought everybody would do the inside. I did the 1010 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,959 Speaker 4: back it's a t heart e on the back. 1011 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 3: I love that, love that. 1012 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 4: But it was absolutely studying and beautiful. Are you guys 1013 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 4: going on a honeymoon. 1014 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,240 Speaker 3: No, we did a pre honeymoon. We will do a honeymoon, 1015 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 3: probably early summer because now we have tons of family 1016 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 3: birth like seven family birthdays, Thanksgiving and Christmas all in 1017 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:36,359 Speaker 3: the next two month. 1018 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 4: What about houses? 1019 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 3: We both have your own houses, we do, and you 1020 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 3: know what we're gonna do. We're going to keep them all. 1021 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 3: I had mine on the market, might put it back 1022 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 3: on I don't know after the holiday. I don't know. 1023 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 3: We're just we're going to keep both. And instead of 1024 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 3: going you know, we could have a house in Palm 1025 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 3: Desert and here. Instead we just happened to have houses 1026 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 3: in two towns only twenty minutes away from me. 1027 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 4: So you guys spend the majority of your time at 1028 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 4: your house because and then he's got one on the water. Yes, yeah, yeah, 1029 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 4: his is the vacation home. 1030 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 3: It's going to keep boat is We're going to keep both. 1031 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 3: Yeah for now. We don't know what the future looks like, 1032 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 3: but we've we've loved it the last two years, so 1033 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 3: we're not really in a hurry. To change anything in 1034 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 3: My twins are still in high school. So we're at 1035 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 3: my house down south. 1036 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 4: To day where you're at right now, and tell the 1037 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 4: kids are out of the school, out of school. 1038 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 3: And then they're all going to be flitting off to college. 1039 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 3: And but now Miles is like, Mom, I'm staying with 1040 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 3: you for four more years. I'm like, okay, Well. 1041 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 4: That's my Sophia, that is my Sofia. 1042 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,879 Speaker 5: Well, we really appreciate you coming on. 1043 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 2: We love hearing your love story and also all the 1044 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 2: funny tidbits herit. 1045 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 4: But I'm going to use that now. 1046 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 3: It's so great. 1047 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 5: Where do people find you if they want to chat 1048 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 5: with you? Get more information? 1049 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 3: I mean basically just Alexis Billino, which I don't know, 1050 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 3: stay tuned. I don't know what my Instagram is going 1051 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 3: to look like. Basically, you want to find me, you'll 1052 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 3: find me. 1053 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 4: Just become like Madonna. 1054 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 3: Says, there's a lot of Alexises out there, though that 1055 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 3: might be taken. 1056 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:05,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, Alexis. 1057 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Well, thanks guys for Alexis Alexis. 1058 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 4: Well, thank you so much. 1059 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,879 Speaker 3: Alexis. I love you so much, love you