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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast. Hour or two of Clay and Buck

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Speaker 1: gets going right now, everybody, thanks for being here with us.

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Speaker 1: What's what's the Churchill quote? Right? Democracy is the worst

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Speaker 1: form of government except for all the other ones that

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Speaker 1: have been tried. Yeah, that's kind of how I feel

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Speaker 1: about the whole jury of our peer system sometimes, right,

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Speaker 1: it's it's better than the alternative. Right, you don't want

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Speaker 1: some bureaucrat, although people can actually ask for a bench trial,

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Speaker 1: but you generally don't want some bureaucrats, some man or

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Speaker 1: woman of the state to just determine your fate, or

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Speaker 1: have government employees who do receive their paycheck from the

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Speaker 1: apparatus from the system. So we got peers, we got people, right,

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Speaker 1: jury duty? What was it? But do you remember the

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Speaker 1: last time you did jury duty? Clay? I do what

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Speaker 1: about you? Do you remember? Yeah? I was like two thousand. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say it on air because I

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Speaker 1: don't want them to come after me. It's been a while,

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Speaker 1: it's been a while. I had to do it, and

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Speaker 1: I got nervous because it was a trial that might

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Speaker 1: take a couple of weeks, and I, first of all,

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Speaker 1: I'm an attorney, so I thought I would get knocked

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Speaker 1: out just based off being an attorney. And then I

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Speaker 1: got all the way too seated on the jury panel.

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Speaker 1: And then one of the attorneys said, you know what

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Speaker 1: I really like listening to. This is when I was

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Speaker 1: doing sports talk radio locally in Nashville, so it's probably

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Speaker 1: been like ten years ago. The guy one of the juries,

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Speaker 1: one of the attorneys, like, I really like listening to

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Speaker 1: mister Travis on his radio show, so I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: strike him. And so I got out that was when

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Speaker 1: I was doing sports talk radio based on based on

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Speaker 1: that fact. Otherwise I would have been seated potentially for weeks.

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Speaker 1: And for what we do, it's actually noticeable when we

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Speaker 1: don't go to our job. So I've always been afraid

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Speaker 1: of just like, I don't want to miss the radio

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Speaker 1: show for two weeks because I'm sitting on a jury trial. Right,

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Speaker 1: So the jury system that we have is Look, our

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Speaker 1: system is imperfect. But if you even no matter what

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Speaker 1: one may think of Andrew Tate and his possible innocence

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Speaker 1: or guilt of the charges in remaining, remember Andrew Tate

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Speaker 1: was just a few months ago on Tucker's show, the

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Speaker 1: most Googled man in the world, I think for a

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Speaker 1: couple of months. I mean, that was a real statistic.

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Speaker 1: You know, they've just extended his pre trialed attention another

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Speaker 1: thirty days and there may not even be a trial.

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Speaker 1: There have people who don't know, Like, this is why

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Speaker 1: you got to be super careful when you're out of

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Speaker 1: the country, because as much as you might not like

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Speaker 1: our justice system, my goodness, look out if you're elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: I do think there's it's quite a coincidence that the

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Speaker 1: charges that have come against mister Tate have come when

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Speaker 1: they have, and against his brother that's not I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but no one knows because no charges of Actually, they

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Speaker 1: could hold you in remaining for six months before you

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Speaker 1: even get to go before a judge and say, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm guilty, you're not guilt six months now. I know

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Speaker 1: a lot of you are saying, hey, Buck, what about

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Speaker 1: the j six defendants. Yeah, yeah, we got problems with

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Speaker 1: our We got problems with our system too. We're bringing

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Speaker 1: all this up though, because it is quite a reminder

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Speaker 1: of what we are, what we're dealing with sometimes here

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Speaker 1: with the various legal efforts, and I would argue extra

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Speaker 1: legal and abusive efforts to try to get Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're doing it is actually hard. We'd do

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Speaker 1: this for a living. And to keep up with all

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Speaker 1: the different there was the non criminal civil trial against

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Speaker 1: the Trump organization in New York. There was the Russia

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Speaker 1: collusion Muller probe. There's now you know, e Gene Carroll

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Speaker 1: saying that Trump sexually assaulted her thirty five years ago,

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Speaker 1: and she's going to sue. I mean, to keep up

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Speaker 1: with all of these, none of them ever go anywhere,

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Speaker 1: none of them ever. I mean, the only thing that

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Speaker 1: they would say is the Trump organization paid like a

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Speaker 1: million dollars fine, which for an organization of that size

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Speaker 1: is the equivalent of a parking ticket. There's also this

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Speaker 1: Georgia grand jury proceeding. And this is how seeing reports

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Speaker 1: on this because they have a four person. Can't say,

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Speaker 1: foreman anymore, the four person and just give a time

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Speaker 1: it will be a four they You see it wasn't it.

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Speaker 1: This singer recently referred to fisher they Sam instead of fishermen.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about, Sam. I didn't even

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Speaker 1: see that story. Oh yes, he wants to be called

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Speaker 1: a fisher They not a fisherman because he likes to

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Speaker 1: go fishing anyway. Four person I Digress, of the Atlanta

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Speaker 1: based grand jury investigating Donald Trump for attempts to overturn

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Speaker 1: protected speech legal theories. I mean, the whole thing is nuts.

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Speaker 1: This is the four person who has been doing a

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Speaker 1: person who is running the jury basically of this possible

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Speaker 1: criminal indictment of Donald Trump. I wanted to hear from

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Speaker 1: the former president, but honestly, I kind of wanted to

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Speaker 1: subpoina the former president because I got to swear everybody in,

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Speaker 1: and so I thought it'd be really cool to get

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Speaker 1: sixty seconds with President Trump of me looking at him

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Speaker 1: and being like, do you solemnly swear I'm getting to

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Speaker 1: that would be an awesome moment. The American jury system

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Speaker 1: on display, folks well, and I think as ridiculous as

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Speaker 1: that audio sounds, her squirrelly movements while she's giving it,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that she's doing interviews for MSNBC and

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Speaker 1: media ecosystem. She is a, according to people who have

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Speaker 1: tracked down her Pinterest page, very obsessed with witchcraft. And

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Speaker 1: sometimes I was saying this off air, I think Trump

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Speaker 1: is benefits from his foes because they are such poor representations,

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Speaker 1: even of the anti Trump movement, that a lot of

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Speaker 1: people just roll their eyes. But the bigger picture here

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Speaker 1: is you have got these democrat jurisdictions. And for people

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Speaker 1: out there who don't understand this, when we were when

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Speaker 1: I was in law school back in the day, and

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Speaker 1: then when I started practicing law, forum shopping is a

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Speaker 1: big deal. It's not discussed that much in the general public.

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Speaker 1: But what I mean by that is when you decide

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Speaker 1: where to file a lawsuit, very often astute lawyers will say,

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Speaker 1: I want to file in this state or this jurisdiction

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Speaker 1: because the legal climate favors me. And therefore that's why

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Speaker 1: they call it forum shopping. It's like you're looking around

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Speaker 1: at all these different potential localities. So buck, when I

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Speaker 1: practice law in the Caribbean, if you could, I was

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Speaker 1: in the US Virgin Islands. For people who don't know,

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Speaker 1: I love By the way, This is one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite Clay facts that you moved to the Caribbean and

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Speaker 1: you were a lawyer, and you didn't pitch this as

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Speaker 1: a screenplay to ABC or something. You know. I was

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Speaker 1: and I haven't heard about it. In the US, I'm

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Speaker 1: still paying for the license. The US Virgin Islands and

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Speaker 1: Tennessee's passed the bar in both those jurisdictions, But Buck

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Speaker 1: I took the US Bar exam the Virgin Islands Bar

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Speaker 1: Exam in a courtroom basically overlooking the Bay in Saint Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I practiced in this law firm for a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Everybody who could sue in the US Virgin Islands would,

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Speaker 1: And I'll give you an example. American Airlines flew in

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Speaker 1: negligence complaint against American airlines, you filed it in the

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Speaker 1: US Virgin Islands. Average juror eighth grade education population of

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Speaker 1: the US Virgin Islands only around one hundred thousand people.

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Speaker 1: It was considered to be a planeiff's paradise, and so

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Speaker 1: of the plane offf law firm is exactly what is

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Speaker 1: going on with Donald Trump. DC is basically a rigged

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Speaker 1: jury pool. Fulton County in Atlanta is basically a rigged

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Speaker 1: jury pool. They can get indictments against a publicans affiliated

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Speaker 1: have a jury pool that is convinced that the people

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Speaker 1: they're investigating or evil. And here is again this jury

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Speaker 1: four person, Emily Cores, who is speaking out about what

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Speaker 1: the grand jury has done here, which you're also not

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Speaker 1: really supposed to do, but they're just putting her on

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Speaker 1: TV anyway, play fifteen. It's not a short list, so

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Speaker 1: we're talking about more than a dozen people. I would

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Speaker 1: say that, yes, are these recognizable names, names that people

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Speaker 1: I don't think that there are any giant plot twists coming.

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Speaker 1: as in Donald Trump is not going to prison over

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Speaker 1: the jury or rather over the election Georgia thing. And

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Speaker 1: yet again I just worry that are First of all,

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Speaker 1: lawfare that has been waged against Donald Trump, stretching back

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Speaker 1: the abuse of a legal system, really, the destruction I

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Speaker 1: So whether you think he's guilty or not, and there's

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Speaker 1: no due process. Donald Trump has suffered process attacks of

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Speaker 1: all kinds. And eventually, what you realize is, even though

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Speaker 1: not going to certainly get a prison sentence, Clay, the

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Speaker 1: process is the punishment. This is what's so unfortunate. They've

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Speaker 1: just used this all along to just try to wrong

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Speaker 1: it's four D chess, he can handle it all. Well,

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Speaker 1: what about the people that were in his White House

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Speaker 1: the twenty five year old staffer who's terrified of you know,

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Speaker 1: Muller trying to entrap them. You know, talk to George Poppadopolis,

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Speaker 1: talked to Carter Page about you know, yeah, Trump can

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Speaker 1: handle it, but it's more than just Trump that they're

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Speaker 1: You have a Fulton County prosecutor who has to make this,

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Speaker 1: so you think they are You think they are going

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Speaker 1: to indite him. I think I think that in Georgia

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Speaker 1: they're going to indict him. Wow. But now it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a violation I believe of state law. I don't

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Speaker 1: gonna be a total clown show. I just I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's the people who are moving in. And to me,

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Speaker 1: that is the signature question that cannot be answered by

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Speaker 1: Gavin newsom acolytes in California. If he did such a

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Speaker 1: great job, why has California lost population for the first

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Speaker 1: time since it became a state under Gavin Newsom's leadership.

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Speaker 1: Think about how crazy that is. California became a state,

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Speaker 1: I believe in eighteen fifty from eighteen fifty to twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: every single year California added people. Twenty twenty was the

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Speaker 1: first year California lost population. Twenty one and twenty two

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Speaker 1: all together, seven hundred thousand people have left there, including

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Speaker 1: Buck Gavin Newsom's own in laws who moved to Florida,

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Speaker 1: and our donors to RHN de Santis. If there were

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Speaker 1: truly a case that it were safer, people would be

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Speaker 1: flooding to California and fleeing California and fleeing Florida. That's

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Speaker 1: not what we're seeing at all now. The big challenge

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Speaker 1: to me on the national divorce is one move to

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Speaker 1: red states and make them redder. That's the way that

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Speaker 1: you can get a default version of this. That's what

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Speaker 1: people are doing now is they realize they can work

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Speaker 1: remotely many different places. They're still even in red states. However,

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Speaker 1: our blue islands Nashville, Memphis in my state, for instance,

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Speaker 1: are going to continue to vote blue. But the state

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Speaker 1: at large it's as red as red can get. I

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Speaker 1: want as many people who are going to vote red

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Speaker 1: to move here. One final thought, one of my favorite stats,

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Speaker 1: more people voted for Donald Trump in California in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty than in Texas, and a lot of your minds

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Speaker 1: are blown every time you hear that. Obviously, that's partly

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Speaker 1: a function of California having so many people, but regardless

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Speaker 1: of which direction you go, there are still a lot

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Speaker 1: of people left behind who are blue or red in

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Speaker 1: states that would otherwise have substantial majorities in the other direction.

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Speaker 1: I also think it's worth noting that when you and

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Speaker 1: I were growing up, which I guess I'm emitting, was

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Speaker 1: around the same time. I like to say it was

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Speaker 1: decades apart, but no, you know, when I was in

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Speaker 1: junior high and Clay was in high school, California in

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Speaker 1: the nine in America was the ultimate Americ injury. You know,

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Speaker 1: it was reflected in all of our Yeah, Hollywood was

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Speaker 1: out there, so that was part of this, but in

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Speaker 1: our movies, our entertainment, I mean, California was just the

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Speaker 1: place where people from all across the country wanted to go.

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Speaker 1: To the fact that Democrats, in let's call it two

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Speaker 1: generations maybe less a generation, have flipped that around, so

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Speaker 1: that California is now the place where if you're born

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Speaker 1: and grew up there, you're fleeing from there. Just goes

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Speaker 1: to show you that state government matters, and that's what

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Speaker 1: really saw during COVID. It used to be I think

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Speaker 1: everyone just said, oh, the president of the federal government,

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Speaker 1: that's what matters to me. State government matters, local government matters,

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Speaker 1: your school board matters. To your point, buck on California

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Speaker 1: as like this promised land. I had never been to

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Speaker 1: California until I was in college. We went on a

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Speaker 1: spring break trip in like two thousand and two or

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Speaker 1: something like that to California, to San Francis Cisco, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, this place is amazing. I can't believe.

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Speaker 1: We went down to the Redwoods, or up to the Redwoods,

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Speaker 1: the Murre Forest, I think, went to the beach, like

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Speaker 1: checked out all of San Francisco. I was like, this

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Speaker 1: place is flat out amazing. One of my best friends

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Speaker 1: got married in San Clemente, California in two thousand and five.

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Speaker 1: My wife had never been to California, and we took

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Speaker 1: the PC and drove all the way down from San

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Speaker 1: Francisco to Orange County, and I was like, my goodness,

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Speaker 1: this is one of the most beautiful, unbelievable places in

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Speaker 1: the entire world. It speaks to how bad Democrat leadership

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Speaker 1: is that basically, so many people would be willing to

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Speaker 1: leave America's Garden of Eden because that is in many

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Speaker 1: ways what the natural topography geography of California is. Look,

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Speaker 1: I think it's heartbreaking for a lot of New Yorkers

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Speaker 1: who still see New York as you know, if you're

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Speaker 1: a New Yorker, you always think New York is the

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Speaker 1: greatest city in America and the greatest city in the world.

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Speaker 1: People have left. I know a lot of people who

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Speaker 1: have said that maybe they'll come back in five years

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Speaker 1: or ten years, but they don't. They don't want to

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Speaker 1: see how this plays out while the lunatic left continues

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Speaker 1: to run the show there. So we'll come back to this.

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Speaker 1: By the way, big update Clay from Andrea Mitchell. Oh oh,

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Speaker 1: we got something for you already. We're gon We're gonna

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Speaker 1: bring that to you here in just a second. Stay

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Speaker 1: with us. A big update on that one. Look, I

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Speaker 1: and play Travis buck Sexton Show. We were just talking

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Speaker 1: about Andrea Mitchell and her false questioning of Florida well

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Speaker 1: was actually based on Florida Governor Rod de Santas, but

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Speaker 1: she was questioning Kamala Harris and this is her response

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Speaker 1: to the why that she spread in her question. I

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Speaker 1: haven't even heard this yet. Let's listen. In my interview

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Speaker 1: last Friday with Vice President Harris, I was imprecise in

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Speaker 1: summarizing Governor to Santas's position by teaching slavery in schools.

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Speaker 1: Governor de Santas is not opposed to teaching the fact

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Speaker 1: of slavery in schools, but he has opposed the teaching

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Speaker 1: of an African American studies curriculum, as well as the

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Speaker 1: use of some authors and source materials that historians and

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Speaker 1: teachers say, makes it all but impossible for students to

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Speaker 1: understand the broader historic and political context. But behind slavery

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Speaker 1: it's aftermath in the years since, he didn't think that

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Speaker 1: an ap high school course in African American studies should

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Speaker 1: be focused on CRT and queer theory. That was the

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Speaker 1: actual objection. Andrea Mitchell is still whining because she said,

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Speaker 1: do we have that audio? It's not enough to say

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Speaker 1: I was imprecise. Can we play the audio of her again?

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Speaker 1: She specifically says that you can't teach slavery and it's

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Speaker 1: aftermath in Florida, which is a flagrant lie. Let's play

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Speaker 1: that audio. I thinks Governor Rhnda Santis not know a

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Speaker 1: black history and the black experience when he says that

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Speaker 1: slavery and the aftermath of slavery should not be taught

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Speaker 1: to Florida school children. I mean, this is crazy. So

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Speaker 1: I have a theory, Clay. It's always great to try

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Speaker 1: out my theories to you in real time with you know,

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Speaker 1: a couple of million people listening. But here's my theory.

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Speaker 1: I think that because you know you just read the

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Speaker 1: press secretary for Rhonda Sas in his response to this.

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Speaker 1: If you what half an hour ago. I think that

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Speaker 1: there's a recognition that the old days where Republicans would

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Speaker 1: just show up and get punched in the face by

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Speaker 1: the media, that's not going to work, specifically with Ron

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Speaker 1: De Santis, meaning he's perfectly comfortable just not playing their

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Speaker 1: game now Trump. It's very interesting. Trump actually liked to

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Speaker 1: go on offense against the media and was super effective

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Speaker 1: in using the fake news to his benefit in the

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen election cycle. I think later on in his presidency, though,

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Speaker 1: I would have said, I think he sat down with

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Speaker 1: the New York Times a few too many times. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I do think that that's and I believe that people

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Speaker 1: that are ardent Trump supporters would agree with that when

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Speaker 1: they see that it's just, you know, he wasn't outsmarting

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Speaker 1: what's her name, Maggie Haberman. She was just running hit

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Speaker 1: pieces on him day in a day out. I think

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Speaker 1: that De Santists and even some other Republicans, they're not

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Speaker 1: going to let this game be played the way it

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Speaker 1: used to be, where where oh, NBC News, You'll lie

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Speaker 1: about me and then I'm gonna give you an interview

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Speaker 1: a week later. I don't think so, because Democrats don't

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Speaker 1: do that. By the way, Remember they wouldn't let Fox

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Speaker 1: News host a Democrat debate. They wouldn't let Fox News

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Speaker 1: interview Joe Biden before the president before the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: as is usually the case with the President. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Redfern at the Santist Campaign already responding once again.

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Speaker 1: Andrea Mitchell is imprecise in her description because she relies

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Speaker 1: on unnamed historians and teachers. Florida's statute requires the teaching

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Speaker 1: of slavery and its aftermath. We just know that queer

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Speaker 1: studies has nothing to do with Jim Crowe. Good response there.

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Speaker 1: I would also say this, you guys out there listening, No,

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Speaker 1: I love Carry Lake. I think Carry Lake is a

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Speaker 1: stud campaigner. What she did is something that I've been

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Speaker 1: doing for years, and I would incur courage every Republican

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Speaker 1: politician to do it, and this would include Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Any interview that you do, put out the full transcript

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Speaker 1: of the interview. Don't allow yourself to talk to a

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Speaker 1: reporter for thirty forty five minutes an hour and have

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Speaker 1: them pull three sentences out of that interview and craft

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Speaker 1: a story based on it. If I talk to a

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Speaker 1: reporter for a story. I want the full transcript of

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Speaker 1: my story recorded by my team, which is what I

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Speaker 1: do at out kick, so that we can post the

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Speaker 1: full transcript. You guys know, I talk to you every

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Speaker 1: day for three hours. I'm not running from any of

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Speaker 1: any of my opinions. But I don't want somebody to

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Speaker 1: talk to me for thirty minutes or an hour and

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Speaker 1: then be able to craft their version of what I said.

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Speaker 1: I want the audience to be able to see exactly

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Speaker 1: what I said, and I would encourage every Republican politician

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Speaker 1: to adopt that as well. Speak in a Trump club.

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Speaker 1: He has, I think, had a real moment here, making

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Speaker 1: a strong move going out to East Palestine, Ohio to

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Speaker 1: visit with that town the aftermath of that chemical train

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Speaker 1: derailment disaster. He's getting there before Mayor Pete. He's going

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Speaker 1: to be showing solidarity with the people of Ohio affected

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Speaker 1: by this. I think it's a strong move. I think

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Speaker 1: we should talk about just what the implications of this are,

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Speaker 1: and also where's the Biden administration. Well, Joe's tripping going

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Speaker 1: up the stairs, but yes, we're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: East Palestine. Trump on his way there right now, and

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Speaker 1: what the impact is of the Midwest as we all

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Speaker 1: start to turn towards next year in the next election,