1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 2: It's to show that she is the secrets of success 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 2: experience firsthand by marketing and Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: will know he's giving me advice on many occasions. And 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: in case you didn't notice, I'm not broke. You know 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry. 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: Decision make because it's what he likes to do. It's 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: what he likes to share. 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: Now it's time to hear from my man, Rashaan McDonald 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: money Making Conversations. 11 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: Here we go. This is Rashan McDonald had to grab 12 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: the mic because I was in there dancing because you know, 13 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: we're about to talk about some great music. I know, 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: I know, I know, but I'm about to mention some 15 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: song gonna bring back some memories today because next month 16 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: is that's June is a Black music month, and we're 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: gonna talk to music. But let me let me get 18 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: the intro started and so I can just lay everything correctly. 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to money Making Conversation master Class. As you know, 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm your whole Rashaan McDonald. Our theme is that there 21 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: is no perfect time to start following your dreams. I 22 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: recognize that we all have different definitions of success. For you, 23 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: it may be the size of your paycheck. Mine is 24 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: inspiring you. That's right, you who are listening, You who 25 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: are driving, you, who are streaming this show nationwide? To 26 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: accomplish your goals and live your very best life, It's 27 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 1: time to start reading other people's success stories and start 28 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: living your own. The reality is is that when I 29 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: do this show and I look at myself, cause I 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: get up every morning at four thirty Monday through Friday. 31 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: I get up and I tell people when I get up, 32 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm not a happy It's not about a happy get 33 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: up at four thirty in the morning. But to achieve 34 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: my dream, to achieve my goals, I have to get up. 35 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: I can't hit this snooze button. I can't think about 36 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: what if somebody else did what I needed them to 37 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: do so I can be successful. In the end, your 38 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: dream is your dream. To achieve your dream, to make 39 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: your dream happen, you have to make it happen. And 40 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: I always tell people this. Everybody has a gift, not gifts. 41 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that gift. Let's hone in and that 42 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: one town, that one skill, that God has given you. 43 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: Lead with that gift, and don't let your friend's family 44 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: or coworker stop you from planning or living your dreams. 45 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: I will tell people this, between the ages of eighteen 46 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: and twenty four, you are invincible, You're immortal, You're a dreamer. 47 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: Can't nobody tell you nothing. When you get forty, fifty, sixty, seventy, 48 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: get that same attitude back that can't nobody stop you, 49 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: that you're invincible, that you're gonna live forever. Because even 50 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: at eighteen, there was no guarantee that you would live forever. 51 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: So why should you not have the same mentality when 52 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: you're forty, when you're fifty and sixty, that you're going 53 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: to live forever. Because your dreams, your legacy you create, 54 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: can make you a legend, can make you a memory, 55 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: can make you a person that has changed other people's life. 56 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: I remember when I was diagnosed for cancer, and when 57 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: you get diagnosed for cancer, the thing about it is 58 00:02:54,960 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: that your light flashes before your eyes, and all I 59 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: could think about was my future. But I settled down, 60 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: I realized what I had done in my life. At 61 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: that point, I was really comfortable if cancer was going 62 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: to bring an end to my life. Unfortunately for me, 63 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: it has not. So you have to live each day 64 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: with a goal, with a desire to understand that when 65 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: you wake up, have a sense of purpose when you 66 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: wake up, have a goal. When you have that goal, 67 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: achieve the plan that you are trying to achieve out 68 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: of that and don't let nobody stop you from achieving. 69 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: I guess she's that person. One of my favorite people 70 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: I interview on my shows. You know sometimes on NPR 71 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: you can't like promote or say you like something, but 72 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: I gotta say I like her. She's one of my 73 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: favorite people. My guess it's Deana Williams. She's the broadcaster, celebrity, strategist, curator, 74 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: live event producer, celebrating fifty years in the music, broadcasting 75 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: and entertainment industry. Professional. That's what she is. She's the 76 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: person that's been there. Because it's really interesting and we're 77 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: going to talk about this. We talk about longevity because 78 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: when you're successful, you really doesn't think about longevity. To 79 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: you get to that longevity part and then somehow you 80 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: get nervous because you look it back, look back on 81 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: what you've achieved, and you wonder if you can continue 82 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: to achieve that some of the archives are really now 83 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: in the library of Congress co founder. Check this out, 84 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: Black Music One. It's on the National Museum of African 85 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: American Music and Nashville Board. A regular TV wants Unsung 86 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: and is referred to as the mother of Black Music One. 87 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: She's established and she's going to get a big proclamation 88 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: in the city of Philadelphia. Please welcome the one and 89 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: only the Money Making Conversation Masterclass, Deanna Williams. 90 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 3: How are you doing, Diana, ooh blushing, I'm another collar. 91 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness for san Now you know I love, 92 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: love any opportunity to interact with you for a myriad 93 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: of reasons. One, you are so inspiring. You are when 94 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 3: we talk about success, you are helping. You're giving the 95 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 3: blueprint to listeners, to viewers of success because you are 96 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: bringing on the air people who are grustlers, grinding and hustling, 97 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 3: and you are a master grustler. So I'm honored to 98 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 3: be with you today. I'm wc Okay, all right now, 99 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: my daughter went to she went she attended school there, 100 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 3: and shout out to David Lynton and. 101 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: The oh David Lynton, he's sitting in here. 102 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 4: Okay, he's sitting in the room. 103 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 5: And I didn't know that that's my boy. 104 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: You know, he got me on over here boy too, 105 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: because you know, everybody has a dream, and I was 106 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: talking about that earlier. But when you say, like, I 107 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: remember when I when out, I left IBM, and I 108 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: wanted to pursue a career as a standing comedian. I 109 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: just wanted to do it. You know, I was just 110 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: I was twenty six years old at the tem cauld't 111 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: nobody tell me nothing, because I felt that I had 112 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: to do it. And a lot of people said, don't 113 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: do it. You're leaving a great job like IBM. And 114 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: then thirty came, and then forty came. And I really 115 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: tell you this to be honest, that it wasn't into 116 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: my forties did I really realized that I had a gift, 117 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: that I had the ability to do things that everybody 118 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: else wanted to do. And people were starting to come 119 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: to me for advice and starting to understand that I 120 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: had a different way I looked at things when it 121 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: came to marketing and branding. When I did this show, 122 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: bringing people like you on the show. Let's talk about 123 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: that journey in the early years when you were just 124 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: a voice, but you were an incredible voice. And when 125 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: did you realize that you were seeing things and giving 126 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: advice to people that was a little bit different than 127 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: they were getting anyplace else. 128 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: Well, salute to you again for helping craft the careers 129 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: of many super successful individuals. I wish i'd met you 130 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: younger in life difference. But the person who inspired me 131 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: there were two people other than my parents, my mother 132 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 3: Nancy Newman and my father George Williams. And other than 133 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 3: my parents and my grandparents, my family, my foundation, it 134 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: was my ex Kenny Gamble and my best friend Kathy Hughes, 135 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: who was the founder of everything with the one in It, 136 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: Urban one TV, the Dollar one, everything. And so those 137 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: are the individuals that helped shape me. But a good 138 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: friend of mine, Hubert Law said to me when I 139 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: was in college. He says, you have a great voice. 140 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: You should do radio. So he was one of my 141 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 3: you know, he was one of my early advocates. So 142 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 3: I would give credit to those individuals. And a gentleman 143 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: by the name of Van j And lastly, the person 144 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: who gave me my first job with health benefits, his 145 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: name Bob Nighthawk Terry, and he saw the movie Talk 146 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: to Me. 147 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 4: He was in the movie with P. D. 148 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 6: Green. 149 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: Nighthauw Terry was the gentleman who came in with the dogs. 150 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 3: That was my former boss who gave me my first 151 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 3: job in radio. 152 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: Well know, not today. You know you got to have 153 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: that boys back in the day. You have to talk 154 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: certain way, got to have a voice. And as about personality, 155 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: you really get really don't have to talk like you talk? 156 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: Are the way everybody to have the articulate every word 157 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: came I clear, But now everybody throw out the word authentic, 158 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, organic, relatable. How is that? How have you 159 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: seen that? Has that changed the business? 160 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: You know? Back I come from the era of radio personalities, 161 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 3: where people who are very vibrant personalities like Frankie Crocker, Yes, 162 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: By Higginson, who is the woman who inspired me, who 163 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: was also on the air at WBLS in New York 164 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 3: on one O seven point five. Uh. You know it 165 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: kind of got wortered down at a certain point. But 166 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 3: I think radio personalities we come for that tradition. You know, 167 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 3: the great Jocko Henderson and Georgie Woods, the guy with 168 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 3: the goods. These are legendary broadcasts. 169 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 4: Mary Mason Louise Williams Bishop. 170 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 3: That's that's what I come from. And while I am 171 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 3: currently celebrating my fiftieth anniversary, I've seen all kind of 172 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: changes in radio broadcasting. But at the end of the day, 173 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 3: it's personalities. People want to hear a voice that they trust, 174 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 3: they can rely upon, that they can set their watch. 175 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 3: Oh wait, we don't set our watches anymore, but you 176 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 3: know what I mean. They want they want that familiarity, 177 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 3: they want somebody who feels like family. And that's the 178 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: style of radio that I've always engaged. And even though 179 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 3: now I'm doing talk radio, I've done music radio my 180 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 3: entire career. But I'm a guest commentator on w u 181 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: r D, which is progressive black talk radio in Philadelphia, 182 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 3: So I get to do what you do. 183 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: What you do, well, we know the beauty of you know, 184 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: because you threw out a name. You know, you throw 185 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: out a name just in my ex nite. 186 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: Which one, oh my EXX you know, Piker Rock of 187 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 3: my family and my very very dear friend Kenny Gamble, 188 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: who is one of the architects of the found of 189 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 3: Philadelphia with his partners. 190 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: Don't go past that too fast, now, you know, South 191 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: of Philadelphia. Come that music. We gotta talk about that 192 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: music loop, Okay, because you see a lot of people 193 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: don't know all they is the artists all if they 194 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: hear the singer, they don't know who the master behind, 195 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,119 Speaker 1: mastermind behind, I miss you. 196 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 3: You know Kenny Gamble, Leon Hoff, the great Drummer, Young Love, 197 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 3: the Ojs, Kenny Gamble again. 198 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 4: And Leon Hull ain't no stopping us now. 199 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 3: Big Fadin and Whitehead, Gin and John great producers and songwriters. 200 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: That's just a few, y'all. Because of the fact that 201 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: you know, the soul trained thing. 202 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: The soul Trained theme with Don Cornelius was done by 203 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 3: Gambling Huff and it featured the three degrees and mss 204 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: turn off the lights, my my borrow a cup of sugar, 205 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: neighbor and my best friend until he made his transition. 206 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: Theodore pender Grass, Teddy Pendergrass Girl. 207 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: That was my song back in the day, boy, turn 208 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: off get me excited because now going back to my 209 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: younger days, when you know when when when a slow 210 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: song meant something back in the club. 211 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 4: Dates, Yeah, you know, you look across the you. 212 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: Look across the floor and made eye contact. That's all 213 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: you needed. If she looked your way, you looked that way, 214 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: and you just did the head now, the head up 215 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: or the head to the right of the head up, 216 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: and she went cool. Then y'all made our way to 217 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: the floor and. 218 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: Exactly exactly, and you know what, Sad Jones, mel Lewis, 219 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 3: Gambling Huff died two albums. I believe with them, the 220 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 3: great Dexter Wanzelle, who was coming from a jazz tradition 221 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 3: as well. So incredible musicians. They called from the Philadelphia 222 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 3: Orchestra string layers and then they had the fiercest rhythm section. 223 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 4: I love the music of the sound. 224 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: Of Philadelphia, Philadelphia. 225 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: International, you know the music, but it had a message 226 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: in it too a lot of times, you know, like 227 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: wake up everybody, they're sleeping in. 228 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes again with Teddy Pendergrass. 229 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: Family Reunion for the Old James, the reunion. 230 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 3: I got to have. And you know what, how about 231 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 3: I always loved my mama. Dambling huffros that one as well, and. 232 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 4: I always loved my mama come on, my favorite girl. 233 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: Well, you know the thing the thing about it is 234 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: that are we are now this generational Okay? You know 235 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: you had pop but then you had rock and then 236 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: you had the mothership landed. You know, it landed. You 237 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: know it landed. When I was playing basketball in the 238 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: early seventies, when the when the when the pea fonk came, 239 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: make mother funk the phone come on now. But nobody 240 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: was stopping them boys in Philadelphia. 241 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 2: No, not at all. 242 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 3: And they were inspired. I thought, I heard you say, 243 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 3: Barry Gordy. Barry Gordy and Motowns and Detroit set the 244 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 3: standard for Gamble and Huff. They actually flew out. Gamble's 245 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 3: first airplane ride was to Detroit to visit Motown, where 246 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,479 Speaker 3: they were interested in speaking to them to be songwriters 247 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 3: producers at Motown. And when Gamble and Huff saw what 248 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 3: Barry Gordy had done. And if you've ever been to 249 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: the studio, which I'm sure you have, absolutely in a house, 250 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 3: it's small, no way, all that great, big music from 251 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: all those artists Stevie Wonder, Martha Reeves and the Bandelas, 252 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: Mary Wilson, Diana Ross and the Supremes, the Temptations, you're. 253 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: Right there, you know, because sometimes we be in the mix, 254 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: and so you know, it's like it's like you just 255 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: be rolling through it and you don't realize you understand 256 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: what's happening, but you don't really appreciate it because it's 257 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: just happening. And you enjoyed a moment because greatness was 258 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: all around you from those sounds and artists. And what 259 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: was your head at at that moment? 260 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, very great question. I often reflect back to it. 261 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 3: I knew that great things were happening. I was very 262 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 3: cognizant of the fact that I was around tremendously talented people, 263 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 3: not just my man, but the people that he signed 264 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: to the roster. Junie carn is godmother to our children, 265 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 3: Gamble and I had three children, So I was I 266 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 3: was aware, and I was on the radio. So I 267 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: was on the air. 268 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 4: The first at WBLS. 269 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 3: Then I went into television for a minute. Then I 270 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 3: came back to Philly and I was on w d 271 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 3: a S one oh five point three when it is 272 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: a monster heritage station absolutely in Philadelphia, and that's the 273 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 3: station where you know great like for instance, there's a 274 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: woman named Patty Jackson. She has been on the air. 275 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: Full lea because I gotta go to break you know 276 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: the rules and radio. 277 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 3: Yes, if I do, I got to go. 278 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: I'm coming right back. Now, we're gonna talk about your 279 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: proclamation in Philadelphia. Come back, We're going to talk about 280 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: black music, money, We're going to talk about the museum 281 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: in Nashville, all these things. My friend has had a 282 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: major book. See that's where you bring friends on because 283 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: you got to remind them of the blessings they've given us. 284 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: Be right back with more money making conversations, Deanna Williams. 285 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 7: We'll be right back with more money making conversations. Masterclass 286 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 7: with Rushan McDonald. 287 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 8: You are now tuned into the money making Conversations. Minute 288 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 8: of Inspiration with Rashaan McDonald. 289 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: Comedian Kim Coles is known for her famous role as 290 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: a cast member on the hit TV series Living Single. 291 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: Now Kim has been sharing her gifts of public speaking, 292 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: motivation and training leaders in community groups, companies, and women conferences. 293 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 9: And what it really is about is creating a community 294 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 9: of like minded individuals in which my business partner and 295 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 9: I coached them through building their business. We did a 296 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 9: masterclass on self care. It really means rest setting boundaries. 297 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 9: It means saying nowhere, saying yes, deplete you further. It 298 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 9: means filling your cup so that you can serve fathers. 299 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 9: My ladies are more busy now than they were before 300 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 9: the pandemic hit because they realized, all I've got a vision, 301 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 9: I've got to keep going, and I'm building an empire 302 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 9: that will last longer than me. This is about building legacy. 303 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: If you want to hear this full interview with Kim Cole, 304 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: visit Moneymaking Conversations dot com. Keep winning. 305 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 7: Now, let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashaun McDonald. 306 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: Well, I'm talking to Deanna Williams. She's been proclaimed oftentime 307 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: as the mother of Black music monk. But before if 308 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: you've watched TV ones on song, you've seen her. You 309 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: have seen Dianna Williams. You already heard all this music. 310 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: So when you try to go back and get one 311 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: of those those greats, they gonna roll her in. Go queen, 312 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: start talking. Give give us the truth, because you know 313 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: the truth because you saw it all you saw. Not 314 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: only you saw it, you played it, You participated. You 315 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: at the concerts, used at the events where the music 316 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: was revolutionizing the sound. But it was all coming off 317 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: the East coast, and then you had Detroit, then you 318 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: had the West coast. Those sounds and that music, and 319 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: I be remiss because I want you to go back 320 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: and talk about my girl, Patty Jackson, because I cannot. 321 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: She's done so much for my career. She's done so 322 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: much as you've done for my career being able to 323 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: give me a voice and given the talents that I've 324 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: worked with a voice. Because people don't understand black radio 325 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: is a little bit different in our community because black 326 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: radio tells us how to vote. Black radio tell us 327 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: where to go, tell us about the weather, tell us 328 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: how to get up in the morning, tell us when 329 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: to go to bed, tell us makes us feel good 330 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,719 Speaker 1: about ourselves. It makes us party about our says, remind 331 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: us of respect. Black radio is powerful and it should 332 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: never go away because of the fact it's an emotional 333 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: tool to our future. 334 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 3: Do you agree exactly? 335 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 4: I completely totally agree. 336 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 3: Black radio is the clarion voices of our community and 337 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 3: it has been and will continue to be as long 338 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 3: as humanity exists. And prior to the break, what I 339 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 3: was saying about Patti Jackson is that she has been 340 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 3: on the air in the same time slot for thirty years. 341 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 3: Unheard of white, purple, Polka Dot orange. She is a 342 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 3: voice in the community and as you reference my career 343 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 3: celebrating fifty years. Patti Jackson and I are part of 344 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 3: a group called the Inaugural thirty thirty Black women broadcasters 345 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 3: from all over the country. Our archives last Friday were 346 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 3: installed into the Library of Congress. We started the morning 347 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 3: out at the White House with Steve Benjamin and the 348 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: new Press Secretary Well she's a year in her position, 349 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 3: Carine Jean Pierre, and Erica who's in charge of African 350 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 3: American media, Erica Lowe. It was incredible, but shout out 351 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 3: to all those women for their illustrious careers and being 352 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 3: voices on the regular in our community. As you said, Rashaan, 353 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 3: where do you go vote? 354 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 4: Who's coming to town? 355 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: What place did you be? What you know? It's voting, 356 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 3: it's time to register, Where to go, where to get help? 357 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 3: Where to get social services? Where who's hiring? Job theres 358 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 3: That's what we do. We do more than just play 359 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 3: feel good music. We are the voices in our community 360 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: to alert, to inspire, to inform. 361 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting. Like I'm from Houston, Texas, 362 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: I can remember or stationed down there called Magic one 363 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: oh two. I can tell you right now today the 364 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: very first song that that station played in nineteen seventy 365 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: seven when it came up with Johnny get talk on 366 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: Johnny Guitar Watson song ah Wait one. Do you remember 367 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: real Mother for you? 368 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: Oh? Yes? 369 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: And you know. And so that's how powerful music is 370 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: because it can lock you into an emotion. It can 371 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: also inspire you to be great. Now when you talk 372 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: about black music, when I cannot get off this air 373 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: is talk. Let people hear the story of how that 374 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: came about, how you very instrumental alone with mister Gamble 375 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: and coming about tell us about how black music mark 376 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: came about. And now it is recognized every June. 377 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 3: Well credit goes to Kenny Gamble. Again, we were a 378 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 3: couple at the time, so obviously as a couple we 379 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: worked together on everything, including the children. But Gamble went 380 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 3: to Nashville and he saw what the Country Music Association 381 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 3: was doing with their unity, carving out a region calling 382 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 3: it Music City, being very smart about the economics of 383 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 3: the creativity, and he said, we need to do that 384 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 3: in the black music industry. And so he came back 385 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: under the offices of another organization that he established called 386 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 3: the Black Music Association. June Black Music Month was born 387 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: and Clarence Avons, who's known too many in the industry 388 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 3: and outside as the Godfather, called the White House as 389 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 3: President Carter's administration to host an event at the White 390 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 3: House for the Black music industry. 391 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 4: And it was a little bit of everybody. 392 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 3: Billy Eckstein was there, Chuck Barry, Evelyn Champagne, King, MFSB, Dexter, Wanzell, 393 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 3: Andre Crouch, They all performed and in the audience was 394 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: Barry White, Gloug Robert Gordie, just Frankie Crocker, myself, Dabele 395 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 3: and I. You know, it was my first time going 396 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 3: to the White House. So June seventh, nineteen seventy nine, 397 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 3: Jimmy Carter declared June Black Music Month, and that was 398 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 3: forty four years ago and we've been celebrating ever since. 399 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 3: Myself as well as DJ ed Wright worked with Gamble 400 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 3: for the further establishment of June Black Music Month. And 401 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 3: in two thousand, I went to President Clinton, I went 402 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 3: to Congress, I got legislation passed a bill called the 403 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 3: Black Music Month Bill, acknowledging the multi billion dollar industry 404 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 3: that black music is all genres. With Sean, you know, absolutely, 405 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 3: it's not just it's all genres. But the number one 406 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 3: genre in the world right now is hip hop music. 407 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 3: As we celebrate fifty years of hip hop. So that 408 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 3: was the origin gamble Ed Wright and myself carving out 409 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 3: a month for us to highlight. That doesn't mean that 410 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: July first, we don't celebrate black music. It's the three 411 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: six five celebration. But June is a concentrated period of 412 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: time for us to elevate and celebrate. 413 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: Now, now this is amazing when I hear all this conversation, 414 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: because you know, you can say, you know, hip hop 415 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: is the number one stream music, but guess what. Guess 416 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: what he's sampling from? 417 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,239 Speaker 3: Often from R and B and jazz, no question about that. 418 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 3: And tribe call quest with a Q tip. They definitely 419 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 3: borrowed liberally sampling from jazz and R and D. 420 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: Absolutely Now the nash New Museum of African African American 421 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: Music in Nashville, Now what is that museum in Nashville. 422 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 3: The museum is in Nashville because it became a partnership 423 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 3: between the public and private sector and they raised, we raised, 424 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 3: I'm on the board, hundreds millions of dollars necessary to 425 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 3: build the museum. So people overlook and I didn't know 426 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 3: this either, Rashaan, that Nashville a rich tradition in gospel 427 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,239 Speaker 3: as well as jazz. Jimmy Hendricks was there in the 428 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 3: late sixties. Jimmy Hendricks was living in Nashville, so and 429 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 3: country music. I know some people want to dispute this, 430 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: but the reality it came from black people. White people 431 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 3: developed their own style of country music. The country music 432 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 3: and black folks and the blues and gospels always in Nashville. 433 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 3: And the biggest ambassadors around the world in the eighteen 434 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 3: hundreds were the Jubilee singers, and people overlook that as well. 435 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: Well, you know that a lot of people forget all that. 436 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: You know, the Tennessee, Alabama, you know if you look 437 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: at you know, the whole when you look at the 438 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: Aretha Franklin, her story when she was going down to Alabama, 439 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: you know, muscle shows, that's what she was going down 440 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: that she was going all the way down there to 441 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: get the best musicians. 442 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 3: And absolutely a local musicians. 443 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 4: And hey, all those early Aretha Franklin. 444 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 3: Songs that we love, we're backed by a lot of 445 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 3: white boys and black people too. Bernard Party was was 446 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 3: a great. 447 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: I wonder why she's on on the song all the time. 448 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: It's like, I just actually like to just shut up 449 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: and just let her talk because you're so elegant, first 450 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: of elegant in your tone and also the information you 451 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: just throw out. You know, it's like, you know, like 452 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: I said, you know, it's never too late to manage somebody. 453 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: So you know we'll talk later. Off there, you know, right, 454 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: I met you earlier. 455 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 3: Now, oh well, sure, sure we're connected forever. So Nashville 456 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 3: is the home of the National Museum of African American Music, 457 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 3: located on Fifth and Broadway in the heart of downtown Nashville. 458 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 3: One side is the original grandelopri the other side is 459 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 3: the Bridgestone Arena. So we are like in the heart 460 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 3: of downtown and we cover all genres and sub genres 461 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: of Black music from field Hollows straight through to hip 462 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 3: hop right now. So you got to you gotta come 463 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 3: see the museum. And I encourage everyone to go to 464 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 3: n m a a m dot org. That's name a'am 465 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 3: and that's the acronym of the museum, so. 466 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 4: You can peruse it. 467 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 3: You can see our galleries. We have seven galleries, fifty 468 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 3: six thousand square foot facility, a Contemporary her Story and 469 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 3: History Museum of Music. 470 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: Now you've got a proclamation coming up in Black Music 471 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: mont Wise in Black Music Month. I wonder why this 472 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: happened in Philadelphia, but tell us about it, and uh, 473 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: you know, I will tell you this. I was honored 474 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: recently at the Black Media Awards and went over there, 475 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: and you know, you don't get old when people recognize you. 476 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: It doesn't get old in the fact that you have congratulations, 477 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: thank you know, congratulations on you. Because of the fact. 478 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm just reminding everybody that you know, when people knock 479 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: on your door, they call you or remind you of 480 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: what you're doing now or what you've accomplished, it's truly 481 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: a blessing. And and for you to be honored in 482 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: Philadelphia in Black Music Month, tell us about it and 483 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: tell us, Uh, your expectations are they gonna let you 484 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: talk or you gonna take their wards? You're gonna walk around, 485 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: take some photos? What's going on? 486 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 4: Oh that's beautiful. 487 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 3: We're gambling. I as two of the founders that live 488 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: still in Philadelphia, are being recognized by Philadelphia City Council 489 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 3: on June eighth, and we are receiving proclamation for our 490 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 3: work as the co founders of June Black Music Month 491 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 3: and still living. We're champions of music and Philly. I'm 492 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 3: on the board of the Recording Academy, which is the 493 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 3: Grammy organization. Gamble is still very active in perpetuating culture 494 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 3: amongst black folks and others in the city of Philadelphia. 495 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 3: So we are very excited, and our children very excited. 496 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 3: Their parents recognized. 497 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: You know, they just thought they just need to have 498 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: a party out there. You know, missus Me and Missus 499 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: Jones be jamming, love trained. The sound of Philadelphia. It 500 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: just be you know, the ship, a harship of horseship 501 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: of come on, n they can, just they can. It's 502 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: really amazing. The genius you have put the word genius 503 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: because there's something that that that I can't comprehend. My 504 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: degree is in math, so I know understand logic, I 505 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: understand numbers. I understand two plus two its four. But 506 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: the creativity, the process of being able to manipulate sound 507 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: and put together words and make those words just resonate 508 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: not only years but decades later. And the fact that 509 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: you were part of that is still a part of that. 510 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: Being able to tell this story on my show today, 511 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: I just want to thank you. I want to thank 512 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: you for taking the time to come on masterclass. 513 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you Rashaan for everything. Like I said, what 514 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 3: you do, you are a master. 515 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. But again, let me just tell you 516 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: this now. You know, I'm just letting everybody know the 517 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,479 Speaker 1: world know. She said, I wish I'd have met you earlier, 518 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: because you know, this about the This is about the 519 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: fourth time I've interviewed you, Diana. Okay, And every time 520 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: we always say we're gonna get together. Remember the first 521 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: time we supposed to, we were working on some TV 522 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: show where we're gonna go, Yeah, we're gonna be like 523 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: the masters, sitting over here and you know, talk to 524 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: young people trying to make careers out of that went 525 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: no where because guess what, we didn't talk no more. 526 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 3: Okay, it's not too late. 527 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 4: It's never too late. 528 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 3: That's an advocate of it. It's never too late to 529 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: actualize your dreams. 530 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: She threw out a word that I knew nothing. I've 531 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: never heard, actual lives. Because you know why, I would 532 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: never say that word, because I will fumble through it. 533 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 4: Actual I know you wouldn't know, you wouldn't. 534 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: I love you incredible congratulations and you know, uh, this 535 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: is live this live radio. I wanted people hear radio. 536 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: It's gonna get syndicated nationally through all my HBCU campuses 537 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: that carry my show and podcasts. But more importantly, you 538 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: are a You are an incredible person. Thank you for 539 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: coming on, Money Making Conversation master class, the. 540 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 3: One Queen, Thank you, the. 541 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: Mother of Black music. 542 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: Man. 543 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: If we celebrate every June. 544 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 3: And celebrate y'all read to your children, scream or by 545 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 3: the music of your favorite artists, go see live shows. 546 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 4: You know, there's so. 547 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 3: Many different ways you can and guess what consumers are 548 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 3: part of the celebration. It's not just for the artists 549 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 3: or the songwriters or the producers. It's the executives. It's you, 550 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 3: it's David Lynton, it's the listeners of double it's everybody 551 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 3: who consumes black music. So happy Early Black Music Month 552 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 3: to all, and. 553 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: We talked soon. I appreciate you, Thank you, Bye bye. 554 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: He is coming up next, Sergeant Major Keith L. Craig, 555 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: the super connected Hollywood whisperer. I'm gonna tell you something. 556 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: The word connected, the word relationship is why Hollywood works. 557 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: If you don't have the relationship. You don't know anybody. 558 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: Talent is there. Talent is important, but you gotta be 559 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: connected where I'm talking to next in my next break 560 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: a connector a connector, don't go nowhere. One Making Conversation 561 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Be right back with Sergeant Made There, 562 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: Major Keith L. Craig. 563 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 7: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass 564 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 7: with Rushawn McDonald. 565 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 5: HBCUs represent Black Excellence. 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You can click my HBCU story 583 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 5: to share your story. 584 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 7: Now let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashaan McDonald. 585 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Rashan McDonald. Welcome back to Money Making 586 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: Conversation master Class. I'm a dreamer, y'all. All right, Maybe 587 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: you don't know that about me, but I come from 588 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: the neighborhood. I come from an inner city, six sisters, 589 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: two brothers, And the interesting thing about me was that 590 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: I watched television, and television showed me a world that 591 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't living in. It showed me the possibilities. And 592 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: I used to always watch Jaques Cousteau was my man. 593 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: When I was growing up. I was so Joques Gusteau. 594 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: And when I went to college, guess what. I worked 595 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: offshore because I wanted that. I wanted that experience. I 596 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: wanted to be in the ocean. I were working eighty 597 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: miles out in the golf on a on an all rig. 598 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: They will fly me out there on the health helicopter 599 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: and I stay out there for two weeks. And so 600 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: I tell people, you know, if you don't dream it, 601 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: you don't think about it, you don't make it a possibility, 602 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: then it cannot happen. Well, my next guest is a 603 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: person who that's what he does. He makes the impossible possible. 604 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: Sergeant Major Keith L. Craig, the super connected Hollywood whisperers, 605 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: a go to for independent filmmakers, producers, directors, development deals, 606 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: finance options, distribution and budgets. I don't want to lose 607 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: anybody on this because because of the fact that if 608 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: he doesn't do what he do, then you don't watch 609 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: what you see on television. You need him. This year, 610 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: they have fifty new titles to be released across digital 611 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: platforms including Amazon, Google Play, Apple, Roku and then select 612 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: theaters in less than thirty days. Because he in partnership 613 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: poor to Craig clients, film will go global. Please welcome 614 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: to the money making Conversation mathterclass the one and only 615 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: Sergeant Major Keith L. Craig. How are you doing, sirt? 616 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 4: How are you doing? Thank you for the introduction, glad 617 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 4: to be here. 618 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: Well, guess what, Sergeant Major. Let's let's start right there. 619 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: First of all, thank you for the service. Let's get 620 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: a history there, because you let me know there's a 621 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: military in you. How did it all get started? 622 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 4: A long time ago, age seventeen, I went into the military. 623 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: So it was a really long time ago, sir. Was 624 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: lasted last week, can be last week? It was. 625 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 4: It was a long time ago, you see in a 626 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 4: storyteller already. 627 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely do you think? Do you think, sir? 628 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 4: But yes, a long long time ago, at age seventeen, 629 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 4: my mom actually actually had to sign me into the military. 630 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 4: I heard you earlier say that, you know, you're from 631 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 4: a community that was it wasn't it wasn't supportive as 632 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 4: far as launching you into you know, your tomorrow. So 633 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 4: with me, you know, my mom and I was once homeless, 634 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 4: you know. So you know it's from there that I 635 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 4: actually you got my wheel to succeed, right, So my 636 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 4: you know, I had some people in my past once 637 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 4: told me that I wasn't going to amount too much 638 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 4: because I didn't necessarily like to do what you know, 639 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 4: we were doing down there. As far as shark sharecropper 640 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 4: was concerned. But uh, fast forward, I went to the 641 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 4: military and and just had some great assignments and and there, 642 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 4: you know, I learned the I learned discipline. I know, 643 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 4: you know, the power of you know, having morals and 644 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 4: values and integrity and honors, being honest and selfless service 645 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 4: to others, and and that pretty much led me to 646 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 4: to have some great assignments. And actually was deployed six times, 647 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 4: spent over two years in in Iraq. In one of 648 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 4: those years, I was part of intelligence brigade that actually 649 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 4: gathered the intelligence that led to the captives of dam 650 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 4: Hussein was at the time arch Emmy number one. Fast 651 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 4: forward twenty ten, I actually uh took three thousand men 652 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 4: and women over to Haiti for poor the Prince to 653 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 4: help to sustain the city that were you know, over 654 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 4: there because of the earthquake. Twenty eleven, twenty twelve, I 655 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 4: was part of the logistical unit in Afghanistan in between 656 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 4: Kabul and Kandahar. Will actually supported see a team six 657 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 4: as we crossed the burn into to take out a 658 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 4: summer bin laden. So as you can see, I've been 659 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 4: around and with the places I've been and the people 660 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 4: I've met, throughout the years, I was able to excel 661 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 4: in the military and make it all the way to 662 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 4: the top one percent, which is a sergeant major. And 663 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 4: for those those you listeners who don't know what the 664 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 4: sergeant major is, because Hollywood has done an awesome job 665 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 4: of teaching people what you know, a colonel is or 666 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 4: a general is or at role is right, but they 667 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 4: don't know this that every one of those rushan has 668 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 4: a sergeant major as a senior advisor. They don't make 669 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 4: a move unless they, you know, unless they you know, 670 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 4: have dialogue with the sergeant major. You know what I'm saying. 671 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 4: So yes, and that's kind of how that was my 672 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 4: army career. 673 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: So let's go down on that career because I think 674 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: it's important as one of the things that you know, 675 00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: this big giant press releeve. People always saying how you 676 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: guests on your show for show, But sometimes I get 677 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: these press release that come out and I go, wow, 678 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: I need to talk to him because of the fact that, 679 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: you know, we talk about options in our community, we 680 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: talk about the negativity of you know, sometimes I'm gonna 681 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: tell you some sergeant made I look at television and 682 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: I see, you know, violence and I'm just praying it 683 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: they're not going to put a black person's face on 684 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: the screen, because it appears far too often than I 685 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: want to say it should. And so I remember once 686 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: when I was really an advocating military service. You know, 687 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people in the black community, like you know, 688 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: trying to were resisting the values that I was trying 689 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: to say that a young person who doesn't may not 690 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: have the options to go to college should at least 691 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: look at it, don't just announce it. Tell us about 692 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: the values, because I don't want to go past that, 693 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 1: because because it still holds a lot of tremendous values 694 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: right now, and quite frankly, the military community is struggling 695 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,280 Speaker 1: to enlist people, to get people to enlist. 696 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 4: Okay, well, yes, obviously I actually a hold an MBA now, 697 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 4: but you know I got that inside of the military, 698 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 4: you know, And I also have no student loans because 699 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,800 Speaker 4: of that, because as as as a as a soldier 700 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 4: that's in the military, you actually have the ability to 701 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 4: go to school and get your education while you're serving. 702 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 4: So it's kind of like, you know, you it's a 703 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 4: win win for those who don't want a student loan. 704 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So, you know, oftentimes we 705 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 4: talk about society, you know how it kind of steers 706 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 4: us to it kind of presents a road map to us, 707 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 4: like you you should go to college right as you 708 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 4: go to college, that that will determine your job, but 709 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 4: that also determines a certain amount of debt as you 710 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 4: as you leave the university, you know. So, So I 711 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 4: was actually this past weekend speaking at the Howard University 712 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 4: and one of the things I spoke to people about 713 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 4: was professional score. You know, believe it or not, society 714 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 4: is keeping score of the things that you've done before 715 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 4: you leave college. As you enter college, for instance, it's like, 716 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 4: what was the GPA, what was the NCAP scoreps? You 717 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 4: know what was Were you part of community out there? 718 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 4: You know when you go to church, boy scout, girl scout? 719 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 4: So you have to always build. 720 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: On your brand. 721 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,439 Speaker 4: So the military forded me an opportunity to go get 722 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 4: educated and be able to have a launch point to 723 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 4: choose anything that I wanted to do from the military, 724 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 4: because it's obviously it brands you to where it doesn't 725 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 4: matter what color you're choosing, red or blue, whatever side 726 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 4: you choose, and everybody accepts people have served their country 727 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 4: because we believe red, white and blue, you know. 728 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: You know, so, so what when did you start to 729 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: transition into seeing Hollywood or entertainment as an option. 730 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 4: When I was deployed over in iraq U, I saw 731 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 4: organization that would bring over entertainment to try to take 732 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 4: our of mind off of combat for two or three 733 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 4: hours you know year because we spent three sixty five, 734 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 4: three and sixty five days uh in deployments. So but 735 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 4: I never saw any entertainment that looked like us, you know, 736 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 4: saying for us the minorities. Right. So it was at 737 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 4: that point as a senior, as a senior advisor, a 738 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 4: senior soldier in an elements soldiers came to me, uh 739 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 4: and asked me, you know, sergeant major, what can we 740 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 4: do to have somebody that we like? 741 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: Right? 742 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 4: I started to reach out and and reach out to 743 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 4: Hollywood and and meet a few people and then brought 744 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 4: over the likes of BB King and the temptations and 745 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 4: things that nature and it you know, it kind of 746 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 4: felt good to make people happy. So that's what I 747 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 4: you know, I started, I got the bug right then, Like, okay, 748 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 4: so you so you. 749 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 1: Started out basically a promoter you're producing shows, bringing in 750 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 1: talent that was appealing to to an artist that felt 751 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: that they were not getting to they were they were, 752 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: they were happy to be entertained, but wasn't really feeling 753 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,280 Speaker 1: the entertainment. 754 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 4: Right, right, It's absolutely right. The most of the entertainment 755 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 4: was from Kentucky or Tennessee. If you understand that mean 756 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 4: right absolutely. 757 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: Like I said, until you participate that you put yourself 758 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: in a position to be able to have power. And 759 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,240 Speaker 1: like I said, as a position you in sergeant major, 760 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 1: you positioned yourself to be a promoter, to be a 761 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 1: producer skill set that guess what people do every day, 762 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, Promoters are just advertisers. Promoters are just you know, 763 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 1: companies that somebody promotes these grocery stores, somebody promotes these cars, 764 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: somebody promotes these football games, these basketball games. That's all 765 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 1: he was doing in the smallest stage. But you were 766 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: learning to skill and that skill allowed you to start 767 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 1: starting seeing beyond what you were doing in the military. 768 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 4: Correct, absolutely absolutely. As a and I was a senior 769 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 4: logistation in military. So when I got that call to 770 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 4: go out to Hollywood's and meet some executives out there, 771 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 4: and I was looking around. You know, what could I do? 772 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 4: You know, there was producer, there was there was distribution, 773 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 4: there was you know, theistic things that nature. The one 774 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 4: thing that I saw that the science connected and the 775 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 4: science made sense to me. Logistics and distribution is pretty 776 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 4: much the same, right. You know, there's a there's a need. 777 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 4: Uh you know, there's a component that needs to be 778 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 4: carried somewhere and people need that thing, so you help 779 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 4: delivered that. So that that made sense to me. So 780 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 4: I just went to u c l A And got 781 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 4: certified in the Business of Entertainment and from there it 782 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 4: started on my plights. 783 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: Now, now let's let's put it. Let's be honest about it. 784 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: This is this whole relationship you in the military. Sergeant 785 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: made you. Yes, you cared a certain amount of respect 786 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: when you walked in the room. People. I know, I'm 787 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,240 Speaker 1: gonna give you my respects. Thank you for your service. 788 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: Cause first wall, you protected me and you don't even 789 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: know me. So that is that is a that's a 790 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: mindset that people have to wrap their head around. There 791 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 1: that somebody has chosen to protect this entire country in 792 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,879 Speaker 1: parts that person may never go or never see. And 793 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: but that's a special person that does that. But when 794 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: you walk in the room with these producers, these executives, 795 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: these these individuals who are decision making, do you feel 796 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: that because you were in the military allowed you a 797 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: certain ability to make a better make stronger relationships, or 798 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,399 Speaker 1: create relationships you might not have had if you were 799 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,280 Speaker 1: not in the military. 800 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 4: I would say being in the military, it taught me 801 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 4: how to enter a room. Right, there's a certain way. 802 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 4: There's a certain way as a man, you know, Oh woman, 803 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 4: you have to carry yourself right, you know what I'm saying. 804 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 4: There's a strict there's a certain dress code associated with that. Because, 805 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,320 Speaker 4: believe it or not, we we we are always judged 806 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 4: and scores always kept on how we move. So it's 807 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 4: very important that you know, they always want to put 808 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 4: us in a box based on our pigmentation. So it's 809 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 4: very important that you move as a you know, like 810 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 4: a professional. Yes, you know, because you are being so 811 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 4: it's it's. 812 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: How you move, and it's really and it's important that 813 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,439 Speaker 1: you people hear that, you know, because of the fact 814 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: that you know, we could, we could, you know as 815 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 1: young people. We all were young. You know, I had 816 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 1: to before I lost all my hair. I had a 817 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 1: big afro. I remember, in fact, we're going to go 818 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: to break when we come back and tell this a 819 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: little short story about how I didn't want to conform 820 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: to my company's dress code and guess what, there was 821 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: no success for me. Frustration and that's all he's talking about. 822 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 1: Be right back with more Sergeant Major talking about he's 823 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: a whisper, y'all, but he talks loud on my show. 824 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 7: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass 825 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 7: with Rashawn McDonald. 826 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 8: You are now tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute 827 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 8: of Inspiration with Rashawn McDonald. 828 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: This week, I sat down with award winning actor, best 829 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 1: selling author, and entrepreneur Heal Harper. He stopped by and 830 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: talked about how his thyrout cancer diagnosis led to his 831 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: role as a health and wellness ambassador, teaching everyday people 832 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 1: how to live healthier lives. 833 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 6: We believe that a lot of the root cause of 834 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 6: cancer has to do with what we put on our skin. 835 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 6: Our skin is the largest organ on our body and 836 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 6: endors everything. Just as if you ate it, your ender consistent, 837 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 6: your liver, your kidneys have to deal with it. And 838 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 6: they said the reason why it'll never be tested because 839 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 6: the same companies that make the lotions that contain the aluminum, 840 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 6: the petroleum, the paramis and the oils and all these things. 841 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 6: The same companies who make that are all the same 842 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 6: companies as a drug company, So they're never going to 843 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 6: do a long term study of the effects of their product. 844 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: If you want to listen to this full interview with 845 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: hell Harper, it's available on money Making Conversations dot com. 846 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 7: Now let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashaan McDonald. 847 00:45:55,320 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm on the phone with He's here, Sergeant Major Black Panther. 848 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: I want to bring up that movie. I'm pausing because 849 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about how important that movie was for me personally, 850 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: how important that movie was for me in the in 851 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: the in the industry, because we had never had a 852 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: movie come out that that sold the tickets that it sold, 853 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: that was directed by a black director, and you happen 854 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: to be a distributor, probably the long African American distributor 855 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: on that movie. Tell about your tell us about your 856 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: role and some of the achievements that you were able to, 857 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,879 Speaker 1: groundbreaking achievements that you were able to do with the movie. 858 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 1: Black Panther. 859 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 4: Yes, I was part of the team, and you're right, 860 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 4: You're correct, I was the only black guy that was 861 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 4: part of the strategy for distributing Black Panther. And what 862 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,880 Speaker 4: I mean about distribution, Uh, you know, I was one 863 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 4: of the people that designed the strategy as far as 864 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 4: what what demographic market aread of Black Camp will be 865 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,959 Speaker 4: released in right, and that's based on know everything from 866 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 4: Race Creed, you know. So yes, I was a part 867 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 4: of that, uh, that strategy on how he was going 868 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 4: to launch that and Black Panther went on to make 869 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 4: one point three billion dollars. So yes, at the time 870 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 4: when questions were asked of me, do you think that 871 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 4: this would be a successful movie, because, like you said, uh, 872 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 4: it was directed by black you know, Ryan Coogler, a 873 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 4: black director, and it was the first film in history 874 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 4: to have an all black cast, which was you know, 875 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 4: angela basket far As with a good chat with Bozeman, 876 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 4: Michael be Jordans on and so forth. You know, it 877 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 4: was a risk for the studios from their vantage points, 878 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 4: you know. So but yes, all those things were factors 879 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 4: in it, and and even all the way down to 880 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 4: when we were talking about you know, what months should 881 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 4: we should we release it in and uh, obviously you 882 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 4: know I see the month of February. Why because it's 883 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 4: Black History Month. You know, that means something to us. 884 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 4: So absolutely, I was very proud to do that, and 885 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,839 Speaker 4: also excited to get get phone calls from the likes 886 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 4: of stars that were actually renting out the theater so 887 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,399 Speaker 4: that the underprivileged community could actually go and screen the movie. 888 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, the ones that couldn't afford it. 889 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 4: So very proud of my people, if you will, my 890 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 4: brothers and sisters who who did things like that, who 891 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 4: had the means to make that available to everybody. 892 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: You know, Sergeant Major, I'm talking to Sergeant Major Keith L. Craig. 893 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: You know, I've been in Hollywood since ninety three, went 894 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: out there in nineteen ninety doing stand up comedy. I 895 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 1: actually started writing on television shows in ninety four and 896 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: been fortunate to write on anywhere from The Parkers, the 897 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: Jamie Fox Show, The Sister Sisters, the Robert Townsend Show, 898 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,239 Speaker 1: The Parkers I mean Robert towns to Your Parenthood, as 899 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: well as Arsenial Hall and that whole period of writing. 900 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 1: And I hope put it is distributing the whole put relationship. 901 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 1: Tell everybody what exactly is your role in Hollywood? 902 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 4: Well, my role in Hollywood is, like say, I think 903 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 4: the young people call the plug, right, because my clients 904 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 4: are the networks. When you talk about hbos, the Stars 905 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 4: to show Times, you know, the the netflixes and all 906 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 4: those along with it, broadcasting the digital pieces of it. 907 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 4: You know, I have the ability to when people have 908 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 4: finished films, to get their content, to find they find 909 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,280 Speaker 4: a good home for their for their content. 910 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 3: Right. 911 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,240 Speaker 4: I think that's very, very, very important. And I also 912 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 4: you mentioned earlier why they called me to holl with whisper. 913 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 4: I think it has something to do with us trying 914 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 4: to protect the filmmakers because you know what we we 915 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 4: We speak to five and six filmmakers every day, and 916 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 4: what we're noticing is they go into the filmmaking piece 917 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 4: of it with understanding that it's three it's three pieces 918 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 4: to filmmaking, the pre production and production the post production. 919 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 4: So the flaw in that though, is by the time 920 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 4: you finish post production, your editing, so and so forth, 921 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 4: you actually are out of money, you know. So it's 922 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 4: what my partner and I, Jeff Porter, what we do 923 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 4: is we teach people there are six phases. Maybe teaches 924 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 4: the wrong word, but we we coach teach a mentor 925 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 4: that there are six phases. 926 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 7: You know. 927 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,760 Speaker 4: The additional three phases is branding, marketing, and then distribution. 928 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,479 Speaker 4: So it's very important that you say almost a third 929 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,720 Speaker 4: of your budgets that you're looking at as a production 930 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 4: budget to make sure that you'll feelm actually it does 931 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 4: the business that you wanted to do at the box office. 932 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you this, because you know the 933 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,760 Speaker 1: streaming is out here. You got a big old writers 934 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 1: strike going on, and you're in distribution, and then you 935 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 1: got all these titles. You know, I look at a 936 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: lot of streaming channels out there and that go and 937 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 1: they say the word free, and then I see all 938 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:45,399 Speaker 1: these these movies, these blockbusters from back in the day, 939 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 1: and they start and collect all these catalogs. As a distributor, 940 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 1: how do you align yourself with certain channels or streaming 941 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 1: channels to say this is where I want to take 942 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 1: your product or do you wait for them to ask 943 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 1: you for the opportune to distribute your products? 944 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 4: Do you mean the filmmakers, Yes, sir, you you know, 945 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 4: we we both right, we we we look for films 946 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 4: that we you know that we're interested in right and 947 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,840 Speaker 4: also you know, filmmakers look for us people that are 948 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 4: interested in getting results, because as we make a name 949 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 4: for ourselves, obviously my my resume you know, makes people. 950 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 4: You know, let's let's at least just check these guys 951 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 4: out and from there we just do good business, you 952 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. We, like I said earlier, we're 953 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 4: all about transparency and integrity, things that nature. And we 954 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 4: have direct relationships with these platforms. So if you bring 955 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 4: a film to us, it's not a it's not if 956 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 4: you can get it there. We have relationships. We know 957 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 4: what these networks and these digital platforms are looking for, 958 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Even when we shit on 959 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 4: a monthly basis with these broadcasters, these network stations, right, 960 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,800 Speaker 4: the conversation is, you know, we're looking for a BOC. 961 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 4: These are the components of what we're looking for right now. 962 00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 4: Whether it be all female lead driven cat with humor, 963 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Or is it are you 964 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 4: looking for, you know, horror with some mystery in it. 965 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 4: Well we know what those we know what those apps are. 966 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 4: So when we come back once we find a filmmaker 967 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,560 Speaker 4: that we we think either they're going into making the film, 968 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 4: you know, with with with those components you know of 969 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,800 Speaker 4: that production there, or we you know, we take what 970 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 4: they have, we find what they already have, and we 971 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 4: shot and we bring it to the networks and that 972 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 4: you know, we sign a liscens to deal. 973 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 1: Well know, it's interesting because I'm really trying to wrap 974 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 1: my head around this because you know, it's like, you know, 975 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 1: as a writer, I knew I got a check for 976 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 1: writing there's a stand up. I got a check for 977 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 1: telling my jokes. As a manager, I got commission check. 978 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 1: How does it you know, I'm not trying to get 979 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 1: in any detail, but how does a person like you 980 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: make money? So people can understand how the process works. 981 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 4: Sure, as as as a distributor, right, there's obviously there's 982 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,359 Speaker 4: services fees. Right, so when you bring a movie, a finish, 983 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 4: a finished movie to us whatever, there's a there's a 984 00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 4: services fee attached to that based on we service you. 985 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. We get your film on Netflix, 986 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 4: then you know, become a partner. It's a partnership. Okay, 987 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,800 Speaker 4: So you say, you say, you know, you say, Sergeant 988 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 4: Major Stargy, Major Craig, I have a film. Okayon simme 989 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,439 Speaker 4: over Screenlink's take a look at it. You know, once 990 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,399 Speaker 4: we look at that film, we say, okay, we think 991 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,080 Speaker 4: we got a home for that film. Let's let's send 992 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 4: it over and talk to you know, this personal with 993 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,440 Speaker 4: this network. See what they say and from Once we 994 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 4: get the the the ya from that network, we come 995 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,959 Speaker 4: back and reports to this is this is the offer. 996 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 4: You know, we got a offer. We're gonna do a 997 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 4: counter and ask for these type of you know, these changes, 998 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 4: these stipulations. 999 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,880 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Now you got my mind flowing. Now, okay, 1000 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 1: so do you do? Do you do like specials like 1001 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 1: music specials if it's produced, could I bring that to you? 1002 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 1: Or you just do films a series? What what can 1003 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:54,840 Speaker 1: one bring to you? 1004 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 4: Well, if you could bring everything for us to take 1005 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 4: a look at it, right, Obviously the full features are 1006 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 4: the most sought after things by the broadcasters. But when 1007 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 4: you're talking about the music productions, right, obviously you have 1008 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 4: to have their clearances associated with that, right, So you 1009 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 4: got to make sure all your homework are done. If 1010 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 4: you got song that somebody else own, well you got 1011 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,800 Speaker 4: to go get clearance right, right, for all of that, 1012 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,720 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So, and we would require 1013 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 4: all of that. You got to make sure you got 1014 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,840 Speaker 4: e ando insurance arison no missions insurance. This is the 1015 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 4: insurance is to cover you if somebody assues you because 1016 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,839 Speaker 4: you didn't get total clearance. Are your work or your 1017 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,359 Speaker 4: move too fast? You know what I'm saying. So it's 1018 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 4: very important, you know, to just check all your blocks 1019 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,279 Speaker 4: out and we'll make sure if you're bringing something to us, 1020 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 4: first of all, it has to have the production value 1021 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 4: based on what you say in the budget was right, 1022 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 4: you know optically. These people are professionals, so they know 1023 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 4: what something costs or did not cost, you know what 1024 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,600 Speaker 4: I'm saying. So we look at the production value to 1025 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 4: make sure you got the red cameras or the black 1026 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 4: magics and so on and so forth, and and the aalent, 1027 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 4: you know, the acting, the talent. Everything is you know 1028 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 4: a component of for successful you know, partnership. 1029 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 1: Wow, hey, sergeant major, please tell people how they how 1030 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 1: they can reach out to you. Is a website? 1031 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 7: Is it? 1032 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 3: Uh? 1033 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 1: What number? How they can reach you? Because I next 1034 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,240 Speaker 1: time I bring you on, We're gonna start this different. 1035 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna take some phone calls because you you pushing 1036 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,360 Speaker 1: that information that people need to know because don't nobody 1037 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:19,800 Speaker 1: know where to go. 1038 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 4: Understand, I'm saying you can find us at pcfimimedia dot com. 1039 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 4: That's pcfimimedia dot com. I'm on Instagram at official Keith 1040 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 4: al Craig Official Keith. 1041 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 3: Al Craig All one word. 1042 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 4: I also have a website Keith Craig dot org or 1043 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 4: r G or you can email me at Keith dot 1044 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,359 Speaker 4: Craig at pcfmimedia dot com. 1045 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 1: Okay, now, slow that down. That gonna get busy. That 1046 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,879 Speaker 1: that that gonna get busy right now. So because your role, 1047 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 1: if somebody has projects, don't just be emailing Sergeant may 1048 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 1: just be emailing them. If you got content that you 1049 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 1: don't know where to take it, content that you want 1050 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 1: to some advice on where to distribute it, then Sergeant 1051 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:02,960 Speaker 1: Major can get you that. Can you give out that 1052 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 1: email address one more time, Sergeant Major? 1053 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:11,719 Speaker 4: Sure, that's Keith dot Craig at Pcfilmanmedia dot com. That's 1054 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:16,040 Speaker 4: one word, Pcfilmandmedia dot com. Spell it out one word 1055 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 4: admia dot com. 1056 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,880 Speaker 1: Wow, you know you're whispering to me? Now, you're not 1057 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 1: only whispering you're talking to me right now because because 1058 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,279 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you man, as a black person, we 1059 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,279 Speaker 1: don't know where to go. We don't know where to go. 1060 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:29,719 Speaker 4: We don't know. 1061 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,759 Speaker 1: We're just being creative. We're making stuff. At least we're 1062 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 1: getting a professional person telling us this wont work, or 1063 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,360 Speaker 1: this work, or you need to do your homework, do 1064 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,360 Speaker 1: better production, invest more timing. You got the wrong cameras, 1065 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,320 Speaker 1: You need to get your license, you need to get everything, 1066 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,480 Speaker 1: your release on, all your talents. Stuff like that. We 1067 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 1: don't know. But if you contact him here, get you 1068 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,719 Speaker 1: started in the right direction. Sergeant Major, thank you man 1069 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 1: for coming to my show. And I want to bring 1070 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 1: you back, man, if you don't mind, I want to 1071 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,800 Speaker 1: take phone calls so people can ask you questions and 1072 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 1: let's do it like a class on money making conversations. 1073 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 1: Master class. Good with that. 1074 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 4: I would I would love to come back. I would 1075 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 4: love Rashwan. Please, it's been it's been an honor and 1076 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 4: and and you know, a gift to come on. Thank 1077 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:09,880 Speaker 4: you so much for having me. 1078 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,359 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. He's the whisperer, y'all, but he talks 1079 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 1: me loud. Sajan Major, thanks for coming on. Money Making 1080 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 1: Conversation Master Class. We talked soon my friend. I want 1081 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 1: to thank everybody for listening to my show mate. I 1082 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 1: cannot do this show without you. Guys. I get up tired, 1083 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 1: but when I get to this show man, I am 1084 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,920 Speaker 1: fired up. Talk to you next time on Money Making 1085 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 1: Conversation Matter Class. This is Rashan McDonald. 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