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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Hey, hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: we got the band back Monday, and it's the all season.

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Speaker 1: But there are so many things to talk about. We

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Speaker 1: We got a quarterback that we can't get signed. We

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Speaker 1: got Jesse Holly back in the building. What's up? What's

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Speaker 1: going on? How you been? I'm good man, A long

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Speaker 1: time good. I'm good. How did did so? Did you

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Speaker 1: play yesterday? XFL? You're making a comeback? No, we'll get

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Speaker 1: to that later. We'll tell Where have you been? Where

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Speaker 1: has Jesse Holly been the last How long has it been? Kurt?

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Speaker 1: Three months? Three weeks? My mom asked me last week,

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Speaker 1: is Jesse still on the show? Yeah, as far as

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Speaker 1: I know, I think it is. So where you've been,

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Speaker 1: I've been everywhere? All right? We had miscommunication last week? Oh, yeah, yea, yeah,

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Speaker 1: last week was miscommunication. The week before that, I um,

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Speaker 1: I went to a very special uh event that Robert

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Speaker 1: New Jersey. Didn't I didn't realize you're forgotten that your

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Speaker 1: brother is in politics. Yeah, big time. Tell us about this.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of a big deal. How you don't want

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it was a really big thing. Man. Uh.

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Speaker 1: We had like two hundred people come to this luncheon.

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Speaker 1: Robert Kennedy Jr. Was there. It was he said some

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Speaker 1: political world. Oh that's cool. So yeah, he's been. My

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Speaker 1: they're they're they're the Kennedy compound thing. They want us

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Speaker 1: all right, excuse me, the Hollies we all showed up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't. I didn't know how big this compound was,

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Speaker 1: maybe you're gonna be all right not being able to

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Speaker 1: do social media while you're there. Yeah, you know, if

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Speaker 1: you notice, I've taken a social media hiatus. I haven't

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Speaker 1: been on social media for about a month. Really, are you? Okay? No,

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Speaker 1: here's why. Okay, because Chris Beam, if you're listening, Nate

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Speaker 1: like I've admittedly said this, I'm addicted to Twitter, and

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Speaker 1: Twitter is a toxic place. It's a very like social

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Speaker 1: media is a very toxic place, and you get so

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Speaker 1: consumed the especially during football, it's it becomes our job

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Speaker 1: But I don't follow but maybe fifteen people. I have

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Speaker 1: contract for it. Well, man, it is a third year

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Speaker 1: of it's a new contract. He got two more years

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Speaker 1: before he How would that be sound the deadlines in July,

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Speaker 1: isn't it? So? I mean you're missing all the RTA's

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Speaker 1: and mini camps you can't get Well, that's the right.

426
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Speaker 1: So there's a there's a deadline there between now and March,

427
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Speaker 1: and then there's another one between signing him to the

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Speaker 1: franchise and then so if they if they franchise him

429
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Speaker 1: and half nobody else can pick him up. But he

430
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Speaker 1: doesn't have to sign a deal until certain day, would

431
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Speaker 1: just sit out. Yeah, man, I hope this does not.

432
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Speaker 1: But I think before we go to break and I

433
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Speaker 1: may be wrong, but but I just believe this. When

434
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Speaker 1: it comes to the whole, you know, deadline makes deals.

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Speaker 1: I do think I think Jerry likes that. I think

436
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Speaker 1: he likes his team and his name and his quarterback

437
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Speaker 1: and his franchise always having to be in the discussion,

438
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Speaker 1: even when we aren't playing real football, like I think

439
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Speaker 1: he heading into the draft and too the combine. I

440
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Speaker 1: want my team name to always be talked about, because,

441
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Speaker 1: let's be honest, behind closed doors, we said this a

442
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Speaker 1: hundred times, Jerry doesn't have bad relationships, right, he doesn't,

443
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Speaker 1: whether it be with agencies or players, he doesn't have

444
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Speaker 1: bad relationships. So we sit on the outside and we're

445
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Speaker 1: saying he's gonna be upset, and we don't know what's happening.

446
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Speaker 1: Behind the scenes. Jarry's probably making a phone call like listen, Dack,

447
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Speaker 1: just relax. We're gonna were gonna get this thing done,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I think he likes

449
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Speaker 1: Jerry lights that he likes that, he likes that talk

450
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Speaker 1: about us talk about me, talk about my quarterback. Keep

451
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Speaker 1: us always at the top of you. Don't put us

452
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Speaker 1: in the C block. Nope, we're gonna be in the

453
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Speaker 1: A block. We're gonna be in the B block too.

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Speaker 1: I hope that's what's going on. And he probably, just

455
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Speaker 1: knowing his personality, he probably likes the wheel and deal,

456
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Speaker 1: you know he likes He doesn't absolutely be easy to go,

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Speaker 1: Yeah we want thirty seven. Here you go. No, No, like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, why don't we do thirty four? And

459
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Speaker 1: I'll throw this in. You can use the plane, you

460
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Speaker 1: can use the Helicophe. Negotiation makes Jerry Football horny. Yah.

461
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Speaker 1: That makes him morning like he loved like that's his business,

462
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Speaker 1: that's his life. I can negotiate these deals. And I

463
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Speaker 1: don't blame Doack in this organization for saying forty that's

464
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Speaker 1: that's how you do negotiations. I'm gonna go for the

465
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Speaker 1: top because I know that you're gonna go for the bottom,

466
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Speaker 1: gonna meet in the middle, and they won't meet somewhere

467
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Speaker 1: in the middle. But I'm not I'm not gonna go

468
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Speaker 1: thirty five because then you're gonna go thirty and I'm

469
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Speaker 1: gonna get less than what I really want to go.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask for forty, You're gonna stay thirty five.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say forty, you're gonna say thirty six. I'm

472
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Speaker 1: gonna say thirty nine. And next thing you know, that's

473
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Speaker 1: your thirty seven and a half deal. Deal didn't do

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Speaker 1: business with you, and we'll give you an apartment over

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Speaker 1: here at twelve and he walks off with a heart

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Speaker 1: a that's a break. That's a break time. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: off your first quarter. Yez Bryant, the man's been working

525
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Speaker 1: out for a few weeks and he's letting everybody know

526
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Speaker 1: on social media. You haven't been on in a while,

527
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Speaker 1: so you probably don't know anything about this. You probably

528
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Speaker 1: haven't heard any people send me the clip. You're not

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, that's where you send me putting most of it.

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Speaker 1: He's tweeted that he wants to come back, and I've

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Speaker 1: had and I I went back and forth with the

532
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Speaker 1: with the guy listens to the show, can't remember his name.

533
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Speaker 1: We d m back and forth on Instagram and he sat,

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Speaker 1: what up? Man? Sorry, what's up? Gee? Would you give

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Speaker 1: him a shot? And I'm like, he's thirty one years old,

536
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Speaker 1: he's coming off and a kill his injury. He can

537
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Speaker 1: say that he's not gonna be drama, but we all

538
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Speaker 1: know if if you bring him in here, he's not.

539
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be quiet the whole time he's here.

540
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: Is it worth? And I'm like, there's no way in

541
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: hell they would bring him back, But there's some people

542
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: that want to see him back on the team think

543
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: they might give him a shot. Stephen said he's he's

544
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: talked to Daz. Didn't say what he talked to him about.

545
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: He could have just been talking about business and family.

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Speaker 1: Would you bring Daz Bride back at a veteran minimum? Yeah,

547
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Speaker 1: I mean there's some what ifs in there about money

548
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: and such, But why wouldn't you see what he's got.

549
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: I guess that's my question. I just think, to me,

550
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Speaker 1: if he was the model wide receiver that didn't ever

551
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: cause issues, maybe, but there's a lot that comes with

552
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: that to me, and there's a tipping point where your

553
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Speaker 1: talents finn I already and needs to walking on. I

554
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Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know why. I guess my question is,

555
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 1: but he'd be your number four, right because you're signing

556
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Speaker 1: to Maori, right, yeah, yeah, and then you got Gallants

557
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: and he's not gonna play the slot, so he'd be

558
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Speaker 1: your number four. So he's gonna play special team. That's

559
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: the other party. He's not gonna play a special team,

560
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Speaker 1: so returner maybe, I don't know. I don't know, Jesse,

561
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Speaker 1: you'd be real quiet. Nate's looking like we're fools over here.

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Speaker 1: Goodn't it? No, Just whatever you say some reasons. I

563
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Speaker 1: know whatever you say gonna be the right thing. All right.

564
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Speaker 1: Let me first start by saying this, Okay, I think

565
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Speaker 1: we won't have a problem with Dez Bryant. The the attitude, Okay,

566
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Speaker 1: I think I think that part. I think he's to

567
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Speaker 1: a level of maturity where and I've had several conversations

568
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Speaker 1: with him, and when you've you've heard him say time

569
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Speaker 1: and time again before I gotta get my mind right. First,

570
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: I gotta get my mind right. And I think there's

571
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Speaker 1: a level of maturity that's been produced through that time,

572
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Speaker 1: through adversity, um, just just growth in that part. So

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Speaker 1: I don't think the old and even the old des

574
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: Bryant was still a really good teammate. There were moments

575
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Speaker 1: where he had, you know, situations, but if you go

576
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: into any locker room, you can you're gonna have that,

577
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Speaker 1: especially with guys who are that caliber of a player.

578
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Speaker 1: I say that to say he's not a fit here,

579
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Speaker 1: like as bad as he wants to be here, or

580
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Speaker 1: what do you mean by you can't make him your

581
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Speaker 1: number four receiver? Because here's the thing. Des Bryant's whole

582
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: career has been predicated on his freakish athletic ability, right

583
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Speaker 1: just to be able to go up and snag the

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Speaker 1: ball and do all that kind of stuff. And now,

585
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Speaker 1: at thirty one years old, you're trying to change your

586
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: game to being a route runner. And I saw some

587
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: of the clips. They're not good routes. See the reason

588
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Speaker 1: why guys like an Kuombolden and guys like Fitzgerald and

589
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Speaker 1: Jerry Rice and Steve Smith, um keenan Allen will be

590
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Speaker 1: able to the reason those guys had played well into

591
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Speaker 1: their thirties. They were route runners. That's not something he

592
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Speaker 1: can learn now. I guess it's just because he's His

593
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: whole game has always been about I'm just going to

594
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Speaker 1: be freakishly more athletic than you. Physically, I'm out jump you.

595
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Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a contort my body to do certain things.

596
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Speaker 1: And now you're asking him at an older age. It's

597
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Speaker 1: literally trying to teach an old dog new tricks. So

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Speaker 1: now if you're saying he's gonna be the number four,

599
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Speaker 1: where do you fit at at number four? Like, like,

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Speaker 1: what are we gonna have you do at number four? Right,

601
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Speaker 1: You're gonna doing a lot of standing around because the

602
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Speaker 1: number four receiver you play Corse special teams. And then

603
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: when when Amari does this because he ran two goal

604
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: routes and he's tired, that's when the number four comes in.

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Speaker 1: Or if a guy goes down, that's when the number

606
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Speaker 1: four comes in. So even having him here is not

607
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Speaker 1: And now do I think there's a place for him

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Yes, Do I think it's

609
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys. No, And the conversation Stevens probably

610
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: happened with him, is he stopped stopped tweeting us like

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like it's it's probably not

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Speaker 1: going to happen. Yeah. I love Daz. I think there's

613
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Speaker 1: a place for him in the National Football League. Not here.

614
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Speaker 1: It just isn't it just I think he'll get more

615
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: frustrated here than if he was somewhere else. What kind

616
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Speaker 1: of team mean think he fits in with? He? Does

617
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Speaker 1: he need to be a number two somewhere? Yeah, he didn't.

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Speaker 1: He needs to be in the rotation to not even

619
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Speaker 1: two three ish two three is he has to be

620
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Speaker 1: because even when Dez was at his best and that

621
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Speaker 1: that was the that was the great chemistry that he

622
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: and Tony Romo had, Tony knew, Okay, we've gone two series.

623
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Speaker 1: I gotta get him at the ball. If I got

624
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Speaker 1: to change the plane, just give him a smoke rout

625
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Speaker 1: here here, just here, take the ball because he needs

626
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: the ball, like he is that guy. He energizes and

627
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: feeds off getting the ball. So to have him stand

628
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Speaker 1: around and wait to be subbed in. But if you

629
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Speaker 1: can't get Cooper signed or you want to go cheap cheaper,

630
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Speaker 1: They're not saying that's a good idea. I'm just saying,

631
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Speaker 1: yeah again, if you all right again, Okay, you don't

632
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Speaker 1: get Cooper signed, and then now who slides into the

633
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: number one side? Yeah? And who slides into the number

634
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: two spot? Yes? So now you got a bunch of

635
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: nine route runners out there playing with Dak Prescott. Who

636
00:36:55,160 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: needs route runners? Right? What's wrong? Natena? Like I'm saying

637
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: that this show see questions y'all asking are great, but wow, man,

638
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: well we're gonna be eight and eight again. See when

639
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: are we ever gonna start talking from a winner's point

640
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: of view? And I'm being honest, it's certain people you

641
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: can name on this show all I have ever produced,

642
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: and their whole career is on a consistent basis. It's

643
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: eight and eight. And Jesse is an intelligent player. He

644
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: got a chance to understand. Okay, over here with the

645
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: Cowboys and this system has been eight and eight over

646
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: here with New England has been at least eleven and

647
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: whatever because of smart players that understand their roles, know

648
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: where they fit, and then when that time passed. They

649
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: just went to another team. We we just re we

650
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: just retread, and we re going back. Were revisiting and

651
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: all were revisiting. And Dean Sanders has told me this

652
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: and other great players. All we keep revisiting is the

653
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Speaker 1: eid and eight. When are we gonna get past the

654
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: aide and eight? Well, you know, to me, it's we're

655
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: conditioning the wrong way. He loved as you loved d

656
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Speaker 1: as you like. I love Daz, But I said his

657
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: third year, everybody should getting mad at me. You know

658
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: the little Twitter thing man. You hate Daz? You mean

659
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: you tell me I hate him because I want him

660
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: to become a route runner so he can play ten years.

661
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: So everybody hated me because in this third yesterday, that

662
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be enough, y'all. He's got to become a

663
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: route runner. I said he should get with Lara Fitzgerald

664
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: out for every season. If not Fitzgerald, get with an

665
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: kawhoon bowler outter every season and learn to read coverages

666
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: and matches routes. So everybody hated me, and he may

667
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: now he is. This dude been out of the league

668
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: how long? Two years? Two years? And now and now

669
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: now you want to show me some film how the

670
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: game that got so much faster and a little bit

671
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: more complicated and all of a sudden, you know this game? Yeah,

672
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: what makes what makes a good route runner? Is it

673
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: getting into your cuts? Quicker? Is it? What? Exactly? Everything?

674
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: It's honestly, it's everything. It's everything. It's you know that's

675
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: never good off the ball right again, he would welcome

676
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: to contact because he was like, all right, stay close

677
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: to me because at the last second, I'm gonna out

678
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: jump you. So one it starts, It starts in the huddle,

679
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: and they alluded to it. Okay, break what coverage is it?

680
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: What coverage is this? Because now this tells me how

681
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to run my route? Is it man? Is

682
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: it man free? Is it cover two? Is it buzz?

683
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: Is it cloud? Is it four? Is it you know?

684
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: Quarter quarter hat? That's first? Now, Oh okay, here's the coverage.

685
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: Now it's all depending on about how I'm gonna run

686
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: my route off this coverage. Then it's the line of scrimmage.

687
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: How can I release? Can I get a clean release

688
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: right now? Once I get down field? It's it's the small, small,

689
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: precise things. Uh, you know, am I stacking them? You know,

690
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: am I giving them something at the top of the route?

691
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: Am I coming out of my break? Am I break?

692
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: Am I coming boom boom? Coming out on my then

693
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: coming out Because if you're doing then coming out, he's breaking.

694
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: The babies are broke already. And it might work one

695
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: time in the fourth quarter, I mean the first quarter.

696
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: He's picking it off in the fourth where it matters.

697
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: So there's a whole bunch of things, you know, being

698
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: able to stay low in your route, being on when

699
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: the burst, when to have the subtleties, all that stuff

700
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 1: comes into play. But there's also made a comment and

701
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: I looked for what he said, and he was saying,

702
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: give me the give me the role that witting hat

703
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: what role was that wouldn't play? Seventy five percent of the

704
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,479
Speaker 1: the snaps wouldn't wasn't in the number four. So he's saying,

705
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: give me, give me Whitnen's roll, let me let me

706
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: run Witten's routes. Well, you were seventy Whitney got seventy

707
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 1: five percent of the snaps, So that tells me you ain't.

708
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: You don't want to sit on the bench, right, you

709
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: want seventy five percent of the snaps where when a

710
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: receiver goes up to the line, does he so his

711
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: route changes depending on the coverage. So is it just

712
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 1: like that? Seems like it would be a million different routes?

713
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: How would he stay in touch with the quarterback? I mean,

714
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: is it just this one? Or if I do this,

715
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: it's just two? I mean, it's just well, there's there,

716
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: it's depending upon there's And when I say run your

717
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: route off the coverage, you have some routes that you run.

718
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: If it's man covers, we run it this way. If

719
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: it's zone covers, we run it this way. But also

720
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: if it's if it's zone coverage, how much this guy's

721
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: gonna be, she's gonna be to the inside, he's gonna

722
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: be you know, shade it one side he's gonna be.

723
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: How do I get him the move? How can I

724
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: get off the line of scrimming there and man to man?

725
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: You know, And like I'm even I'm watching you know,

726
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: some of these routes, and I'm saying, like that's a

727
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: that's a rounded route, Like there's no in that route.

728
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: He ran an out route. The other is one of

729
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: he had he had an out route. Um where he

730
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: was running it and you watch him, he's like slipping,

731
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: like he's about to slip. He's too high. But you

732
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: hear the guy in the background saying, good route. And

733
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm like that in the good route because I'm looking

734
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: and I'm looking after the office line all my life,

735
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: and I'm looking like, when is he made a sharp break?

736
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: When is he made a sharp cut? When did you

737
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: When is he double tap and turned? Stopped and turned

738
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: around and was low? Everything he run is from mid up.

739
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: It ain't from mid down. And I'm saying aboutself. I

740
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: watched mikel Irv and I watched Kevin Martin. I watched

741
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: guys who could run routes and and and Mike wanted

742
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: to Christmas route running. But another thing that I learned

743
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: from Mike Mike's sometimes, Nate, I ain't running the perfect route,

744
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: but I know where Troy won't me at what time.

745
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: So timing has a lot to do with this too. Yeah,

746
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: I heard, and I wanted to ask you this just

747
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: um I've heard basically he said one time he goes,

748
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: I know where I need to be. It doesn't matter

749
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: how I get there. I just have to be there.

750
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: Was like that in England, right, what's Welker was like that.

751
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: But the thing is is that they get there. Is

752
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: that a common thing though? It's just like we don't care,

753
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: hey reached the twenty. You just be there, you know,

754
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: and be there. No no, no, no, no no. But

755
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: you got to do it in a way that it

756
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: don't interfere the other route. Right. Yeah. See, See he

757
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: could do a lot of junk moves and what he tended.

758
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: He could be sitting the floundery and all of a

759
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: sudden he take off his boom and make a sharp,

760
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: precise cut and he's right there. See a lot of

761
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: guys know the time and of the route, and they

762
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: see they know where. You got to know where everybody else.

763
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 1: So when you talk about a four receiver, a four receiver,

764
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: a smart one knows everybody's position. He ain't sitting back

765
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: there just knowing. Okay, I'm just an X guy. I'm

766
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 1: just watching amar He watching this slot guy. He because

767
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: if you won't Winnin's role, you're gonna be lining up

768
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: close to the line of scrims. That's I mean, you're

769
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: gonna be morning some shot. So have you ever done

770
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: that before? No? And also it comes down to it

771
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: where it's understanding where am I in the route concept?

772
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: Thank you? It's if I can fool around if I

773
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: know I'm the third read right, because if I'm out

774
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: one or two, that means he's going to quarterbacks going

775
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: one two then to me. So I might be able

776
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: to fool around a little bit and then go because

777
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: if I go too fast, he ain't coming to me anyway.

778
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: Right now. Yeah, So it's all about I know where

779
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: I fit at in this route concept. I know what

780
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: the coverage is. Oh, now it comes that safety coming down.

781
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,479
Speaker 1: Oh things just changed. Now I'm the number one because

782
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: he's blitzing and I'm hot. Now I'm the number one

783
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: read now, now I gotta go right now, whereas oh,

784
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: they stayed back. Oh I'm number three in this one.

785
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: If I'm the slot number three in this read it

786
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: it's just the more I hear about this, it just

787
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: amazes me all the strategies and intricacities of every single player.

788
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: And see that, and and that's why I asked people,

789
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 1: what are you thinking if we spend all of our

790
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: time going back, getting this old guy, going back, getting

791
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: this old guy, going back, getting this old guy, make

792
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: sure we got this old guy, how do we grow?

793
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: How do we become a consistent ten win team. Yeah,

794
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 1: some of those some of those videos, Kyle was showing

795
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:41,480
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796
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: That's right over here Baylor Scott White, like literally half

797
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: a block away that he's working out. So all right,

798
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: speaking of old guys, I don't know if that's not fair.

799
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: He's not old Football World, World, Football World, He's old.

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00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: Sean Lee had some things to say over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: You are my friend talking about a bunch of dudes

841
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: that none of us want on the team. The team,

842
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: And like I said off, I'm gonna always respect these guys.

843
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: I'm but these I'm gonna always respect him and I'm

844
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: always had love for him. If I see him in public,

845
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna speak to him with great joy. Hey, and

846
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm hey man, this is hey, this Jason Winton, This,

847
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 1: Sean Lee, this this this, I'm this is this, I'm

848
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: I'm always had love. But when it comes to winning

849
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: football and being in a position to win, I want

850
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: to talk about Hey, Jalen Smith, I want to talk

851
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: about Zeke. I want to talk about Dak I want

852
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: to talk about Blake Jarman. I read that because these

853
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: guys have the best opportunity at this time if they're

854
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: mentally and physically focus into this, giving us the best

855
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: chance to win. Let's talk about Shaun Lee said over

856
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: the weekend, um talking to someone from SI, I think, yeah, well,

857
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: I've seen ESPN too. He just he said, he's what

858
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: I've heard, he's playing. I didn't see the SI piece

859
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: and maybe he said more, what do he say over here?

860
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: What are you looking at? Just taught Archer said he's

861
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: playing that he doesn't nowhere. See he's not under contract

862
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: rights free agent, so he's playing. Do you bring him back? Well?

863
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: I was kind of opening vander Esche's status. You know,

864
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: there we go. Ian Rappaport College just pulled it up.

865
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: Shawn Lee, at thirty three years old, is playing in

866
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. His agent H Mike mcat Mike McCarthy Cartney

867
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: seven says, considering how strongly finished last season double digit

868
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: tackles in two of his last five games, this makes sense.

869
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: He'll test free agents, but also could return to Dallas.

870
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: What do you guys think? Yeah? Back, well, when you

871
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: when you can have double dude attacks tackles the last

872
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: two out of five games. It's because you didn't play

873
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: the first eleven. He beat up. But we know his

874
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: history has told us that Sean Lee can't can't play

875
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: a full season. I love Sean Lee like I love

876
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: one of the like he epitomizes what it means to

877
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: play the linebacking position. Smart, physical, I mean, just you

878
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: want he's a foxhole guy. He just can't play football

879
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: anymore physically, can't do it anymore. You you hear this

880
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: a lot, and I want to get y'all's opinions on it.

881
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: Is there value in bringing a guy just having a

882
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: guy around, like a locker room guy or a film

883
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: room guy. There's there really value because you hear a lot,

884
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, bring him, you know, bring this guy back

885
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: because he's a good locker room galler. He's good for

886
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: the young guys. Is there value in that or is

887
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: that over? No? No, no to me, I think there's

888
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: value in that because what you have is you have

889
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: a younger generation of just people who whatever profession they're in,

890
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: doesn't understand what it takes to be a professional, and

891
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: a professional just isn't going out there playing football. There's

892
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: a there's a preparation, a long list of thing that

893
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: you have to do to become a true professional or

894
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: in the building and outside of the building. I think

895
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: guys like Sean Lee, I don't think about guys like

896
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: you know, you'll look at NBA games, right, You'll be

897
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: like a Juwan Howard on the bench. They're still paying

898
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: Juwan Howard. You'll see, you know, you'll see guys like that.

899
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: He'll still be on the bench like they're still paying

900
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: that dude, Tyson I saw on Tyson Chan. They still paying.

901
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: Why this is a guy who is going to help you,

902
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: help the younger people. He's gonna keep the locker room

903
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: Galvin eyes, He's gonna, you know, practice hard. He's gonna

904
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: get guys lined up. He's gonna show God how to

905
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: be a professional. Show guys. Hey, take care of your body. Hey,

906
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: here's a chef, his nutritionist. Here's a chiropractice. Here's a masseuse.

907
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: Here's an accountant, here's a financial person. Stay out of

908
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: these clubs. Don't buy from that dealership. Here's a here's

909
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: a here's a real estate person. Like all of that

910
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: stuff is being a profile. Hey, you want to go

911
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: out cool here's my security used the security company. They're great. Hey,

912
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: you know what if someone's come to something to work

913
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: at your house, don't get no jackie people. They don't

914
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 1: they do something in your own home. Hey, use these people.

915
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: All of that is so so valuable in a locker

916
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: room to younger players, and I think Sean Lee embodies that.

917
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: Out of all the guys you can talk about, that

918
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: guy is it. Yeah, he is it. He is it.

919
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: He gave up his position and then moan grown, he

920
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: is it. That's the out of all the guys that

921
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,479
Speaker 1: I would bring back. That guy right there, he would

922
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 1: have a spot because I would be telling him, brother,

923
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: as soon as that, as soon as you don't want

924
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: it no more, you you on my coaching staff somehow,

925
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: some way, because he got just enough in him to

926
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: not only share his knowledge mentally and show you physically,

927
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: but he got enough enough to tell you when you're wrong.

928
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: He got enough to say, man, what you're doing is wrong.

929
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: So that is oh, yes, sir, yes sir, with me

930
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: with me, yes sir. When a man can look at

931
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: you and say, hey, man, Jess, I can't do it

932
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: no more. Man, it's your deal. I'm gonna help you

933
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: so you can get out on that field and prosper.

934
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: So I can prosper. And I'm saying, but jes that

935
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: wrong right there, or we shouldn't have been. But that club,

936
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: I'm coming to get you for here in that club.

937
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: That's Sean Lee bro Now tell me out of the

938
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: guys y'all mentioned, that's like that, that's gonna give it

939
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: all for the team. It was one thing the holly

940
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: you for the team, but all of a sudden you

941
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: ain't for the team. It's long as the team for me,

942
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm for the team. Come on, man, trying to leave

943
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 1: for the team. So Nates ringing in back hurt. Yeah,

944
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: I'd like to see him back. Plus again, I I

945
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: don't I don't want him starting sixteen games, but vander As,

946
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: you just don't know what his situation is and I'd

947
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: like to have a little bit of a safety that there. Yeah,

948
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: and see you can do that with Philip is announced

949
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: Joel h No, no, no. With Thomas Thomas. Between Joe

950
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: Thomas and that guy, you can do that. It's a

951
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: two for one. But you can do that because you

952
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: got a younger guy playing the majority of you got

953
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: him in special situations but I'm gonna tell you something

954
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: we don't and I know we but if but if

955
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: my man can recover, and I'm talking about Jalen, if

956
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 1: he can recover and get that drive back, and it's

957
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: a big if. If he can recover, then it don't

958
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: matter who we put it that wheel. If this dude

959
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 1: can do, if this dude do his job, it's no matter,

960
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: no matter we put it that wheel. All you gotta

961
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: do is I to find you a Sam, somebody that's

962
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: that don't mind eating up some blocks along with them

963
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. Then you got because all you need is

964
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: two active linebackers. All you need is two active linebackers. Jesse,

965
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: you bring them back. I put him, I put him

966
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: in one of these nice polos somehow. But with you,

967
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: whether it's like player or whether it's a coach, you

968
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: gotta bring it back. Yeah. As a coach, man, I

969
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: just I just don't see him. He's not gonna make

970
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: the season. Like I don't, I don't see. I'm not

971
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: wasting I'm not I'm done wasting roster. I'm done putting

972
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 1: guys in uniforms and taking up roster spots to guys

973
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: that I can develop for the future. I convince him,

974
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: maybe I give him a little extra I give him

975
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: a pair of cocks. Don't let him get out of

976
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: his building. I can't let I give him a pair

977
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: of cacus in a polo and I say, listen, this

978
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: is this is gonna be a transition year. This is

979
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: gonna be your year where your assistant linebacker coach for

980
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: the future. But I just we have to stop going

981
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: back to that mentality having that eighties, like that uniform

982
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: can be used for a guy that we can develop,

983
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: like I want to start developing guys we don't. And

984
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: the Jason Garrett tenure, we didn't have two guys, three guys.

985
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 1: I just want a super Bowl in Kansas City that

986
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: were here. Don't even go there that we're here, Miss

987
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 1: Vins that were here? Who were your three guys? Hitchens, Wilson,

988
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: who's the third one? Award? Uh, what's her name? Various Ward? Yeah?

989
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 1: They him? And then remember and the guy didn't finished

990
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: the season this year, but our six round, our six pick. Oh.

991
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: And this is the funny thing about it, that's four.

992
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something about coaching. And see, people

993
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: don't the super Bowl was one for cause of two

994
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: people one we know, and that's the quarterback along with

995
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: the head coach. You gotta give us for love. But

996
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: the one you don't know and don't refuse me is

997
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator. Spagnola, Spagnola, however you pronounce it. He

998
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: was the Giants Stephens a coordinator when they won the

999
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He was the coordinator. He brought a team

1000
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: together with a bunch of misfits. Brashad Brelan. Do we

1001
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: know that name? Can? We beat up on him in

1002
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: Philadelphia and got an interception in the Super Bowl and

1003
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: played the hell of a part in the Super Bowl.

1004
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: And the guys that were here that we couldn't pay

1005
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: because one of us, the second league tackler M was

1006
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: a third league tackler on this team that got better

1007
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: and better and got into the playoff and exploded and

1008
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: shut down a potent running game and passing game in

1009
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: the second half to win a Super Bowl. Brother, That's

1010
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: my thing. It's all about developing these guys like that.

1011
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: This is this is how, this is how teams are

1012
00:57:55,720 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: able to be successful long term, is because coaches are

1013
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: able to come in and develop guys. If I can

1014
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: get a guy, I can develop at six hundred thousand

1015
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: dollars a year, then that he's my starter. That's good value.

1016
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: But if every time I turn around, I gotta have

1017
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: a Jaylon Smith, I gotta have a Lake vander Esh,

1018
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: I gotta have a Maori. I gotta have Zeke at

1019
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: every position. I have to have a guy of just

1020
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: superior skill set. That tells me you can't develop, because

1021
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: you're telling me that you can't get the most out

1022
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: of a guy on a consistent basis. And every time

1023
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: you put eighty eight in the uniform, at eighty two

1024
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: on the uniform or fifty in the uniform, those guys

1025
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: who had great careers, those are three other guys who

1026
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: are not in a uniform that are not being developed,

1027
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: who will then either get to a point in time

1028
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: where they go somewhere else or you don't use them properly.

1029
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: And now we're saying, well this guy never showed up,

1030
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: You're like, well, hell, he never got a chance to do.

1031
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: You can give you all the practice stuff you want.

1032
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: You gotta get guys into the game. Get him into

1033
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: the game, get that game experience. They got three guys

1034
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: that played in the Super Bowl that we had here

1035
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: on our roster on our roster and one week and

1036
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: one we used to justest religiously hang out a hat

1037
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: on that we was gonna beat him deep once once

1038
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: a game, breathing, I keep brother. I had to go

1039
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: get the second week of the player. I had to

1040
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: go get a thing and say I heard this breathing

1041
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: cat cat before and he wasn't doing all of this. Yeah,

1042
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: who did he to Washington? It was Washington, Washington. I'm

1043
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: looking at It's the same that we used to laugh

1044
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: and joke about. And now he he and now him

1045
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: in the hunting badge up cussing out the Diva's a

1046
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: line to y'all. But the feel these gaps because I'm

1047
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:55,959
Speaker 1: tired of tackling. Yeah, well, fellas, this was a fun show.

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Speaker 1: We didn't even get to talk about the XFL. Man,

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Speaker 1: give me your hands man has been wi Yeah, thank

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Speaker 1: you man. It's better. While we got to is get

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Speaker 1: mama gross and we'll get her on Monday. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: what's what's six every month? Everybody, we'll get on. We'll

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Speaker 1: get on this Monch six nine. It's nine six six

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Speaker 1: three six three six three. We gotta get He's got

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Speaker 1: to lout with the eight hundred kids who got cut

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Speaker 1: your cut your Way has a show coming up, Cut

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Speaker 1: your Way coming up here in March. In March, I

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Speaker 1: think like March to show Country. Wayne has a show

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Speaker 1: coming up. We'll get free tickets. We called ringing free

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Speaker 1: times pay tickets coming. They got to sing the Jordan.

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Speaker 1: We got all these guys tele State Cowboys fans. We've

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Speaker 1: lost the ball. See what they don't go right? Don't

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Speaker 1: Maybe we need to bring them back, bring them back right,

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Speaker 1: give them a uniform too. This was fine. Kirk, good Sea, Jesse,

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Speaker 1: good back. Let's see you man. Wow, Kyle, thanks for

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Speaker 1: keeping us up to your seat the other day. Man,

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Speaker 1: you can listen, you can, you can, you can have

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Speaker 1: the shoes. I don't mean you're gonna walk well on

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Speaker 1: comes up Monday, Mama Gross, we'll call in after morna grawl,

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Speaker 1: she called out, the Mardy grawl. Well, our money grawl

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Speaker 1: in North Louisiana and Monroe is this weekend. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: make it back. So I'm going, Yeah, I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 1: leaving Friday and driving over and you gonna make throw

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Speaker 1: beads to here. Yeah, they throw beads. So it's Fridays

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Speaker 1: and Friday. We might be this Friday, Sara Dan Sunday.

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Speaker 1: We might be off Friday for what in the holiday?

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Speaker 1: I don't know it. Is there black History Mom? Kurt, Yeah, Martina,

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Speaker 1: Jane Martin, the Kings in January. What would you say? Oh? No,

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Speaker 1: the Parise Saturday. I can't keep all right, we'll figure

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Speaker 1: out this out, We'll be This has been a production

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Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 1: How about you going there?