1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: All right, well, good hoopson, I here at the volume. 3 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: Happy Tuesday, everybody. Hope all of you guys are having 4 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 2: a great early part of your week. Out A Jampack 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: show for you guys. Today, we're going to be reacting 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: to Memphis versus Golden State from last night. Got some 7 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: thoughts on both teams, my first impressions on the Memphis 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: Grizzlies this year. After that, these Sixers end up beating 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: the Magic to continue their undefeated start to the season. 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: I want to talk about Philly's number one offense in 11 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: the NBA as well as what is going on with 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: the Orlando Magic. I know they're one in three, twenty 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 2: fifth in offense to start the season, but I actually 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: came away from that game a little bit more bullish 15 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: about them in the big picture than I had been 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: in the early part of the season. So we'll talk 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: a little bit about their offense, and then at the 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: tail end of the show, I just had some brief 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: thoughts on Jamal Murray, who had a forty three point 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: outburst last night against the shorthanded Minnesota Timberwolves, and talk 21 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: about some of the strong indicators we're seeing from him 22 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: to start the season and what it means for this 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets team. You guys owe the joke before we 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 2: get started. Subscribe to the Hoops Tonight YouTube channel so 25 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: you don't miss any more of our videos. 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And then, last but not least, 33 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: if you want to get questions into our mail bags. 34 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: We're going to have mail bags on most Fridays throughout 35 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: the rest of the season. Make sure you drop them 36 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: in the YouTube comments with mailbag with a call in, 37 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: write your question and we'll get to them on Fridays 38 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: throughout the remainder of the season. All right, let's talk 39 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: some basketball. So a fantastic game for the Warriors role 40 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: players sixty eight combined points from Jonathan Kaminga, Brandon Pajemski, 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: Moses Moody. This allowed Steph Curry to play more of 42 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: a passive role throughout the game as a scorer. Still 43 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: hunted his opportunities when he can hit a couple of 44 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: nasty shots, you know, trying to shed off Cedric Coward 45 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 2: for a little step back jumper on the left wing. 46 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: He's gonna mix that sort of thing in, but didn't 47 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: need to over exert himself. The Warriors controlled the game 48 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: without him needing to really hit the gas as a scorer, 49 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: and that sort of thing is super valuable over the 50 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: course of an eighty two game regular season. I talked 51 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: a lot about before the season, if you guys remember, 52 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: I talked about how I expected Steph to come out 53 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: guns blazing this year, and in large part because I 54 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: was pretty pessimistic about the Warriors' overall offensive talent, and 55 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 2: so I thought Steph was gonna need to score a ton. 56 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: And I just am a huge believer in these APEX 57 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: competitors when they sense a real opportunity to win the trophy. 58 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: So I was expecting really good things out of Stephan. 59 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: And by the way, I think Steph's looked fantastic to 60 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 2: start the year. But the more ights like this where 61 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: Steph doesn't need to go drop thirty thirty five points. 62 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 2: That is actually better for the Warriors in the big 63 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: picture because it makes it more likely that Steph and 64 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: Draymond and Al and Jimmy will actually make it through 65 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: the season intact. So nights like last night where you 66 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: get sixty eight points from your three best young players 67 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: are really important for the big picture goals that the 68 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: Warriors have this season in surviving the regular season. So 69 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 2: let's actually start with Brandon Pajemski here. He started the 70 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: game with John Murran guarding him, and he burned him 71 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: a bunch of times by hitting threes. He actually ran 72 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: an action for him to start the game with him 73 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: coming off of a little flare screen from Steph Curry. 74 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: John Moran ran into the pick wide open look for 75 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: Moses Moody. He or excuse me for Brandon Pajemski. He 76 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: knocked it down, beat him in help a few times 77 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: when Joe was just not paying attention roaming around. But 78 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: in the second half, Brandon really started to get going 79 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: as a score in action. He hit some floaters coming 80 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: off of screens, hit a super tough floater at the 81 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: end of the third quarter, there's a big shot that 82 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: helps stiff arm Memphis as they were trying to advance, 83 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: you know, out of a classic back and forth. Golden 84 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: Say goes up twenty Memphis starts to work it down. 85 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: There's some big shots late in that quarter, including a 86 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: tough deep floater from Brandon Pajemski, and then he started 87 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: hitting iso threes. He's been getting that little bit of 88 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: like jab step space where he just kind of stands 89 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 2: on the perimeter, just throws a jab. Guy gives him 90 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: some space he can rise up and knock down the 91 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 2: jump shot. And it was actually fascinating because he was 92 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 2: scoring so effectively that he generated one of those patented 93 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors blitz sequences. Runs a ball screen about 94 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: thirty feet off the left wing, draws a second defender, 95 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: hits Trey Jackson Davis on the short roll. Trace makes 96 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: a quick little drop off pass to Gary Payton Junior. 97 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: Gary Payton the second excuse me, he gets a layup 98 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 2: like that's the kind of sequence that you typically only 99 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: see from Steph Curry, but that was the kind of 100 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 2: sequence Brandon was drawing. Because he had twenty three points 101 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: on fourteen shots, six assists with no turnovers, four rebounds, 102 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 2: just a really nice game from Brandon Pajemski against Memphis 103 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: last night. And then we had the Moses Moody show 104 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: in that second half, and like he was an absolute 105 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: wrecking ball in that third quarter. Really was the guy 106 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: in my opinion, that sparked a run that blew the 107 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: game open. And it wasn't anything overly complicated. He was 108 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 2: hitting his catch and shoot threes over and over again, 109 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: even drawing a three shot foul on Jaron Jackson off 110 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 2: the right wing when Jaren started reacting to how well 111 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: he was shooting the ball. And then on the other 112 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: end of the floor, he just on defense annihilated Santi 113 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: al Dama, just blocked him on a quick post up, 114 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 2: stripped him when he wasn't protecting the basketball, spooked Santy 115 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: so bad that Santy had a third ISO attempt against 116 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: Moses where he just settled for some garbage little right 117 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: shoulder fade away from like twenty feet away from the 118 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: rim that had no chance of going in. Like just 119 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: a classic three and D sequence, knocking down shots, playing 120 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: defense and guarding one of the more important offensive players 121 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: on the other team, and it helped blow the game 122 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: open and then for Jonathan Kaminga, he just kind of 123 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: continued that trend of having somewhat uneven first halves but 124 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: then being excellent in the second half. Like he scored 125 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: really well in the first half. He boldied his way 126 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: to the rim a bunch of times for buckets and fouls, 127 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: but he missed some jumpers and took a couple questionable 128 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: jumpers and had a few off ball defensive mistakes. I 129 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: thought he got lucky in the late first half because 130 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: he left Contavious Cabo Pope and Santi Aldama for two 131 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 2: wide open looks on a couple of transition plays where 132 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: he just kind of fell asleep. Fortunately both shots were misses. 133 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: But then Kaminga came out in the second half and 134 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: immediately made a bunch of plays in a row that 135 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: blew the game open. He started to have Steph gets 136 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: beat off the dribble I think by Jalen Wells off 137 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: the right wing, Jalen drives, Jonathan Kminga comes flying over 138 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: and blocks the shot with two hands, a really nice 139 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: help a help sequence at the basket to help Steph out, 140 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: and then he did a ton of damage as a 141 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: cutter in the second half. He ended up getting this 142 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: like super fascinating lob that Steph threw that was like 143 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: off target off the glass, but instead of like going 144 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 2: to try to get it off the glass, Kaminga stayed 145 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 2: back and like redd it right and caught it bouncing 146 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: off the glass and like immediately put it back up 147 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: in the basket. He had a really nice sequence with 148 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler where Jimmy drove off the left wing and 149 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: Jimmy gets down to like the block kind of a 150 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: slashing towards almost the baseline, and Jonathan just kind of 151 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: relocated up right in front of the rim and basketball 152 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: they call this teeing up. So like, essentially, when you're 153 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: a cutter, there's two different reads that you're trying to make. 154 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: You're always off the ball in the dunker spot when 155 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: you're a cutter, right, so like wherever the ball is, 156 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: you want to be opposite of where the ball is, right. 157 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: But again, if a guy is driving towards the baseline, 158 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: it's a different read than if he's driving towards the middle. 159 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: So like if Jimmy slashes across the middle from the 160 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: left wing, then Jonathan's job would be to cut along 161 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: the baseline to the opposite dunker spot to make himself available, right. 162 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: But if Jimmy drives more towards the left side of 163 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: the basket, then instead of kaminga standing there and a 164 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: dunk Chris spot, he's going to want to tee up, 165 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: meaning he's going to want to locate right in front 166 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: of the rim, because essentially, you want to stay in motion, right. 167 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: You never want to be standing still. That's what makes 168 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: you easy to guard. Your help defender is watching man 169 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: and ball. If he's looking back and forth and then 170 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: all of a sudden he gets keyed in on the driver. 171 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: He's counting on you being in one place, but if 172 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: you move, you can make yourself available. Get a really 173 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: nice tee up cut off of Jimmy Butler another easy 174 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: bucket right there in front of the rim. Finished with 175 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 2: twenty five points in this one. Got to the foul 176 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: line eight times with this physicality attacking the basket. Johnathan 177 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: Minga continues his really impressive start to the season. And again, 178 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: as I mentioned earlier in the show, the more of 179 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: these kinds of nights that the Warriors get from their 180 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: young guys, the better off they're going to be in 181 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: the long run with their health in this eighty two 182 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: game regular season. Now on the Grizzlies front, this was 183 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 2: my first time checking out the Grizzlies this year, and 184 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: I was incredibly underwhelmed. Their spacing is really poor. Like 185 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: Jaws a gifted passer, and he did a great job 186 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 2: beating the Warriors back line help whenever they would like 187 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: load up and get two keyed in on him and 188 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: guys would kind of slip along the baseline, similar concept 189 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: to what we were just talking about with relocating it 190 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: from dunker spot to dunker spot, and he kept hitting 191 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: guys down there for easy layups. And Jos still an 192 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: insanely good short range finisher. He hit a bunch of 193 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 2: floaters last night. He's now ten for fourteen on the 194 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 2: season on floaters, which is just outrageous. Strong indicator of 195 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: the stuff that's always had me so excited with joh 196 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: like downhill force, quality playmaking, and the ability to stop 197 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: and pop from like five to eight feet from the 198 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: basket for these little short floaters that he hits. The 199 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: problem is is the spacing is super poor, like this 200 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: Memphis team to start the season is bottom five and 201 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: catch and shoot efficiency, and what it's causing is a 202 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: problem where John Moran is dealing with a lot of 203 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 2: defenders in front of him and he's got no choice 204 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: but to settle for jump shots, and that just highlights 205 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 2: Jaw's biggest weaknesses. Of his biggest weakness, which is that 206 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: he can't shoot the basketball. Was five for fourteen on 207 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: jump shots against Golden State. Fourteen attempts is a good 208 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 2: example of what I'm talking about with the spacing and 209 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: him kind of having no choice but to settle for 210 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: really tough shots just because of the dynamic he's dealing 211 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: with in front of him. And John right now is 212 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: nine for thirty eight on jump shots to start the season. 213 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: That's just zero point five to three points per attempt, 214 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: two for twenty on threes, and so like all of 215 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: his years in the NBA, he's just never improved on that. 216 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: He's never become a better jump shooter. In fact, he's 217 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: become worse as the years have gone by. And the 218 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 2: problem is is that the roster is built in a 219 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: way that kind of depends on his ability to shoot 220 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: because of the way that they can't space the floor 221 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: for him. And it's just going to be a problem 222 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: as long as one of those two things doesn't change. 223 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: If they can't figure out a way to space the 224 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: floor for him, or if he can't figure out a 225 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: way to become a better jump shooter, it's just going 226 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: to continue to be a problem. Jaren Jackson was bizarrely 227 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: uninvolved in the offense. They didn't really try to start 228 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: feeding him until the third quarter, and he finished with 229 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: just nine shot attempts in the game. Missed a handful 230 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: of little easy kind of like hooks and floaters that 231 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: he's gotten good at over the course of his career. 232 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: It wasn't all bad like jack Landiald did some damage 233 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 2: on the offensive glass. 234 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: I thought Cedric. 235 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: Coward looked good, a big athlete with a high motor, 236 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: spent some time guarding staff, he shot the ball well. 237 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: Then I just found them to be really underwhelming and 238 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: a lot like last year. 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Yesterday I mentioned how 272 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: the Sixers have become one of my favorite teams to 273 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: watch here in the early part of the NBA season, 274 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: but that was actually not why I chose to watch 275 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: them yesterday. I was keyed in on the Orlando Magic. 276 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: We're off to a one in three start. I really 277 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: want to talk about some of their struggles. I have 278 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: some thoughts about that here in a minute. Obviously, we're 279 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 2: gonna start with Philly because they won this game. But 280 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: the Magic ran much better offense last night. They actually 281 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 2: logged to one twenty seven offensive rating, and so I 282 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: have some stuff that I want to get into there, 283 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: because there were some interesting details in the way that 284 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: they kind of got their offense going last night, but 285 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: as a result of me keying in on that game, 286 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 2: got to watch Philly again. As I mentioned, Philly's been 287 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: one of my favorite teams to watch early. Philly wins 288 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: this one one thirty six to one twenty four, and 289 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 2: like big kind of physical dynamic that stands out when 290 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 2: you're watching as like as big and as athletic as 291 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 2: Orlando is. Philly looked like the much faster team in 292 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 2: this game, and they cut the magic to pieces twenty 293 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: seven transition points, had a one to fifty nine offensive rating, 294 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: and transition super efficient there. And there's just this consistent 295 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 2: dynamic with their perimeter players, with Maxi and edgecomb and 296 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: even Kelly Oubray just cutting through Orlando's perimeter defense and 297 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: either scoring in the lane or kicking out the shooters. 298 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: Philly scored twenty five points on isolation possessions in this game, 299 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: including passes and converted spot ups as a team at 300 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: one point four to four points per possession, which is 301 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: outrageously good. And there's just a lot of variety, Like 302 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: Tyrese Maxie's frying everybody in the entire league, like he's 303 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: looking like some sort of freaky, lightning fast version of 304 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: Steph Curry. To start the year, he's averaging thirty seven 305 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: points per game on sixty two percent through shooting. He's 306 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: shooting forty six percent off the catch. He's shooting forty 307 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: six percent off the dribble, so there's no drop off. 308 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: Mem that was a kind of a connection that he 309 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: struggled with in the pass, where he'd be really good 310 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: off the catch, but he'd struggle off the dribble. He's 311 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: got that off the dribble efficiency up to where he's 312 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: off the catch efficiency is he's shooting sixty percent on floaters, 313 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: which is making him so difficult to guard because he 314 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: comes cruising downhill off of any drive or like off 315 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: ball screen or on ball screen right, and then he 316 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: just comes screaming down the lane, and if you bump 317 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: him at all, because he's so good at shooting that 318 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: little floater, he'll just draw a shooting val and he's 319 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: knocking down that floater again. At sixty percent, he's getting 320 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: to the foul line ten times a game because of 321 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: that speed that he's attacking with downhill, and guys are 322 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: just out of position and they're bumping him. He's got 323 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: the step back three and the pullback three completely dialed in. 324 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: He's shooting well on the move. He's just looked like 325 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: an all NBA player here in the early going of 326 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: the season. He's just on an absolute heater and then 327 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: with VJ edgecomb, I'm finding it really hard to not 328 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: get overly excited here. It's becoming undeniable, like he's scoring 329 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: in the flow but also. 330 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: Scoring on an island. 331 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: He once again last night hit a couple of really 332 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: tough buckets against great defense when things broke down, and 333 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: feels like he gets good separation even on the ones 334 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: he misses. He's hitting his catch and shoot jumpers at 335 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: thirty nine percent. He's seventy two percent at the rim, 336 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: which is insane for a guard that's like Yanni's type 337 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: of prime Yannis type of numbers there. He's driving closeouts 338 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: and finishing at the rim. He's finishing in transition off 339 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: of different pieces of footwork and traffic. He's forty four 340 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: percent on floaters, and this is a big part of 341 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: how he can score in action. When he comes curling 342 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 2: off the screens, he runs into that rim protection. You 343 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: could just stop and pop off the ground and hit 344 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: that little floater, and then again he's hitting thirty nine 345 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: percent of his off the dribble jump shots, just like 346 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: he's hitting thirty nine percent of his catch and shoot 347 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: jump shots. 348 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: So like that's given. 349 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: Him the ability to, you know, he's doing the basic 350 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: stuff in the flow right, scoring in transition, scoring off 351 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: the catch, scoring driving closeouts, but then he's also able 352 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: to come off of action and hit little floaters. And 353 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: then every once in a while and the things break 354 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: down and they need him to go get a bucket. 355 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: He's getting to his spots, hitting a decent percentage of them, 356 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: but like also feels like there's this otherworldly potential in 357 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: the future if he can add a little bit more 358 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: proficiency in his shot making. He had like a play 359 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 2: against Palette on Caro today or last night, excuse me, 360 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 2: where he like got him on a switch late in 361 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 2: the clock off the right wing was in the first half, 362 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 2: and he just like went downhill with this crazy dribble 363 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 2: combination into his step back and Pallow just buckled backwards 364 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: and VJ got tons of separation and rose up and 365 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: knocked down at three. He just looks like an awesome player. 366 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: He's averaging twenty five points per game to start the 367 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: season on fifty percent from the field and forty percent 368 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: from three in his first three games, and he made 369 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 2: some big plays on defense. In the second half of 370 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 2: this game, he had two help side defense plays where 371 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: he blew up possessions. He's averaging two point five stocks 372 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 2: per game here in the early going, and then one 373 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: of the revelations of Sixers basketball here in the early 374 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 2: going has been Kelly Oubre In addition to shooting forty 375 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 2: percent from three, which obviously is super helpful, he's doing 376 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 2: some really impressive work on his drives. He got a 377 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: lot of like one on one buckets against Orlando. He's 378 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: putting his head down and then getting into that short 379 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 2: to mid range where he's able to hit these little 380 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: short jumpers and floaters, and he's getting a lot of 381 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 2: self created buckets. He's four for five on off the 382 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 2: dribble jump shots to start the year. He's yet to 383 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 2: miss a mid range or he's pouring in the mid 384 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: range against Orlando. He's run eleven pick and rolls, ISOs 385 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: and post ups as the handler, including passes, and has 386 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: generated seventeen points up over one and a half points 387 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 2: per possessions. So some really impressive shot creation, albeit in 388 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 2: smaller volume for Kelly u Brady to start the season, 389 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 2: and then Quinn Grimes. What he brings that's super dynamic 390 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 2: to this team is aggressive catch and shoot shooting like 391 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 2: he doesn't need a ton of space. He's good at 392 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: just elevating over the top, and so he's manufacturing a 393 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: lot of points and fouls by just being aggressive off 394 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: the catch when he catches on the three point line. 395 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 2: Philly has the best offense in the NBA here in 396 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: the early going. They have a one twenty five offensive rating, 397 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 2: and it's just because they're so damn dynamic on the perimeter. 398 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: They have a guard in Tyrese Maxie who's playing as 399 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 2: well as anyone else in the NBA right now, and 400 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: three freaky athletes that are consistently attacking in space off 401 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: of him. They're pushing the ball up the floor. Lots 402 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: of contributions down the bench again, like Adam Bona came 403 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 2: in and blocked three shots in the opening minutes and 404 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: ended up I think with four in the game. Just 405 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 2: every you could just hear in the broadcast every time, 406 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: just give me that shit every single time he gets 407 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: a block, just bringing kind of like energy and rim protection. 408 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 2: Justin Edwards hit a couple of huge shots in the 409 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: second half of you had a three and they had 410 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: a driving, tough bucket, a little like left shoulder, right 411 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 2: shoulder hook with his left hand over the top of 412 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: Desmond Bane and crunch time. 413 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: That was a big shot. 414 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 2: We got a first Eric Gordon appearance and came in 415 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 2: and hit a couple of threes, a deep one, had 416 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: a driving layup as well, where he looked strong and athletic. 417 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: Three and zero start for the Philadelphia seventy six ers. 418 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 2: I've just been super impressed by them. And again they're 419 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: playing a super fun brand of basketball. Like if you're 420 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: basketball fan, you haven't had a chance to watch the 421 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: Sixers yet, I highly recommend you get yourself to a 422 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 2: television at some point on league pass and check them 423 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 2: out here in the next couple of weeks. On the 424 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 2: Orlando front, it looks bad. They're one and three. They're 425 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: twenty fifth in offense. The defense has been mediocre. They've 426 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: really struggled to guard speed and movement. That's one of 427 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: the things that stood out to me. And again, there's 428 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: some tough matchups in there, like Philly puts you in 429 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 2: a really tough spot with guarding their guards because your 430 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 2: bigs have to be up and they have to guard speed, 431 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 2: and that's just a really difficult matchup for most of 432 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 2: the bigs in the league. But I thought their bigs 433 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: did a really poor job of showing up to the 434 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: perimeter against Philly's off screen players in last night's game, 435 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: and in general, I thought they struggled defending in space. 436 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: But I want to focus on offense because I'm not 437 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: worried about Orlando's defense. Orlando is one of the very 438 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 2: best defenses in the league over the last couple of years. 439 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: I expect Orlando to be good on defense. The problem 440 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: is they're twenty fifth in offense. That's been a big 441 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: part of why they've struggled, And I did think last 442 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 2: night was a significant step forward for the Magic on 443 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 2: the offensive end of the floor. Like in large part 444 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 2: part of what they've struggled with here in the early 445 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 2: going is Palo hasn't been good, and they finally got 446 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: Paalo going last night. He had his best offensive game 447 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: of the season in my opinion. But a big part 448 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: of that is I thought they were running some really 449 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 2: rudimentary offense and making life harder for Paalo. So the 450 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: easiest way I can describe this is like when I 451 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 2: watch Fronz and Pallo and their dynamic, Like, Franz is 452 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: a much more deliberate offensive player, and what I mean 453 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 2: by that is he's like really picky and choosy about 454 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 2: how he attacks, so like he's going to try to 455 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: get into his ball screens where he can make his 456 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: reads right like you ran a lot of stack last night. 457 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: He's going to get into sequences where he can get 458 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 2: the defender trapped on his backside, get downhill into the lane, 459 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 2: and either get to his float or have the passing 460 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: reads that are available to him. He's kind of like 461 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 2: your traditional methodical pick and role player, and he like 462 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: even with his post up type of stuff, like he'll 463 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: be picky about getting a guard on a switch before 464 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 2: clearing aside and like getting to the left block so 465 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: he can kind of work with his right hand towards 466 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 2: the middle and once again get to his left shoulder 467 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 2: hook or be able to spray out to the passing 468 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 2: reads that become available in those situations. Like Fronds, to me, 469 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: is a guy that doesn't need as much like tactical 470 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: support offensively he's not as naturally gifted as Polo for 471 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: obvious reasons. Paulo is a bigger, better athlete, but like 472 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 2: with Franz, he's just a a He's a more methodical 473 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: offensive player and things come a little easier for him there. 474 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: Paalo can be his own worst enemies sometimes, like he'll 475 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: just attack one on one without much intentionality, without much 476 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: thought as to who he's attacking. And it's made harder 477 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: by the fact that because he's so damn big, a 478 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 2: lot of teams are happy to switch big, big actions 479 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 2: with him. 480 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: And then back in the past. 481 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: When they would screen for him with guard, it would 482 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 2: just be okay with those guys shooting out of hedges 483 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 2: because they weren't great shooters and so there wasn't much 484 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 2: consequence there, and it was just difficult for Palo right 485 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: And despite that, because of how freaky talented he is, 486 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: he obviously still had a lot of moments over the years. 487 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 2: But I was particularly hoping that Desmond Bain could help 488 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: with that issue by allowing Palo to play with an 489 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: advantage more, allowing him to get more easy opportunities to 490 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: bolster what he does with his tougher shot making. 491 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: Because of his supreme gifts right. 492 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 2: So one of the actions that I've been talking a 493 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 2: lot about over the course of the summer ever since 494 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: Desmond Bank got traded to Orlando is the idea of 495 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 2: using Desmond Bain as a screener for Palo. The reason 496 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: why I've been keyed in on this is I've just 497 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 2: seen so many examples of it elsewhere in the league 498 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: that have worked extremely well. We see when you have 499 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: a real shooter, like when you have a real shooter 500 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 2: screening for a bigger athlete, you can have a lot 501 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: of success over the years. In Golden State before the 502 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,479 Speaker 2: Andrew Wiggins trade, it was one of their pet actions 503 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: they have Andrew Wiggins dribble with Steph screening for him, 504 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: and then Wiggins would be able to get downhill. Yiannis 505 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: a ton of this kind of thing. Yiannis with like 506 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 2: AJ Green or Gary Trent Junior screening for him, he 507 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 2: has the ability to get downhill. Lebron in Los Angeles 508 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: has run a ton of inverted ball screens with Austin Reeves. 509 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 2: What ends up happening with these types of situations when 510 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: you have a really good offensive player that like a 511 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: really good skill guard, a guard that has like a 512 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 2: lot of gravity, so to speak, because he's a great shooter. 513 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: It puts the defense in a really difficult position when 514 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 2: they're guarding that action. 515 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: You have a big bodied. 516 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 2: Athlete guarding your ball handler, your Paolo, You're Yannis, your 517 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 2: Andrew Wiggins, your Lebron for the four examples that I 518 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 2: gave right, and then you've got a smaller, quicker guard 519 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: guarding the guard. Right and in these sequences, they don't 520 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: want to switch because then all of a sudden, you've 521 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: got a little guy that is guarding your big forward 522 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 2: who can immediately take him down to the block. Or 523 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: you have a bigger, slower player that's got a guard, 524 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 2: your freaky skilled guard in this type of action, right, 525 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 2: And so often what will end up happening is they 526 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 2: won't switch, in which case the bit your bigger ball 527 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 2: handler can just cruise downhill. Giannis will get all sorts 528 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 2: of dunks and easy opportunities out of at the rim, 529 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: out of this kind of stuff. Wiggins would get all 530 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 2: sorts of layups and shit coming off of those inverted 531 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: screens with Steph or they hedge, and if they hedge, 532 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you've got Steph Curry wide open. 533 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 2: You've got Austin Reeves wide open. You've got you know, 534 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 2: a really good offensive player slipping out of the action 535 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 2: into space where he's gonna hit shots. AJ Green was 536 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 2: gonna hit shots if you hedged on Giannis, and then 537 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: if you switch, you generate these quality advantages on both 538 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: sides of the action. It's just a very difficult action 539 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 2: to guard relative to traditional pick and roll where your 540 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 2: center is involved, where they can run no roller behind coverage, 541 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: simply because the big man is not as dynamic offensively 542 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: as the screeners that you're using in these inverted actions. 543 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 2: And so I really really wanted to see a lot 544 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 2: of Polo dribbling on the perimeter with a band coming 545 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 2: up to screen for him and then him slipping out 546 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: of the action so that Powlow could attack or have 547 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 2: an easy read that becomes available to him based on 548 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 2: how they're guarding it. And early in the season they 549 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: just weren't running it that much. It was driving me 550 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 2: crazy to watch them because they they would just kind 551 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 2: of play your turn, my turn basketball. 552 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: Well. 553 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: I charted every single possession that they ran it against Philly. 554 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 2: They ran it seven times in this game. Most of 555 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,719 Speaker 2: the time off of the left wing, although they ran 556 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: it in the middle of the floor once, but out 557 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 2: of the seven times they ran it, they got a 558 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: great shot every single time, and they scored on six 559 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: of them. And what's especially frustrating about this is like 560 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 2: that was a huge step forward, and I still felt 561 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 2: like they left a ton of meat on the bone 562 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: because they don't spam it the way that they should. 563 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 2: They go away from it. They'll run it a couple 564 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 2: times and then they'll do something else. So like they 565 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 2: run it twice in the middle of the first quarter 566 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: in that action, so they don't run it to start 567 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 2: the game. But then in the middle of the fourth 568 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 2: quarter first quarter, they run it two times in a 569 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 2: row off the left wing. The first time they hedge, 570 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: so when Bain slips out of it, Paalo throws an 571 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: easy behind the back pass. Bain is wide open, the 572 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 2: guy closes out on his right shoulder, he rips the 573 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 2: close out gets all the way the basket for an 574 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 2: easy layup. Then they run it again. On the very 575 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: next possession, they switch it. Pallo posts up. When he 576 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: posts up on Bain's defender, because he's a small he 577 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 2: immediately draws a double team, kicks out to Bain, they 578 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 2: close out, he drives that close out. Both defenders go 579 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 2: with Bain. Polllow gets a wide open three off of 580 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: the left wing and he knocks it down. So they 581 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: run it two times in a row, get a layup 582 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: in a wide open three, make them both and then 583 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 2: they went away from it. They didn't run it the 584 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: next few minutes while they were on the floor together. 585 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 2: They come back to it eight minutes and forty seconds 586 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: left in the second quarter, they get a switch. They 587 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: don't double this time. Palllo gets an easy little short 588 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: jumper over at Quinton Grimes and he knocks it down. Now, 589 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 2: remember with Paalo, it's getting inside of seventeen feet. When 590 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 2: he gets inside of seventeen feet, he's a very efficient score. 591 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 2: When he's outside of seventeen feet off the dribble, when 592 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 2: he's taken like eighteen nineteen foot off the dribble jump shots, 593 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 2: he's short almost all the time, and he becomes very 594 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: inefficient on that shot. And so getting the switch for 595 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: a favorable matchup with better spacing, because Bain just burned 596 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: them on a hedge and they burned him on a 597 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 2: double team by getting a wide open shot for Polo. 598 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 2: So Polo gets a good one on one, gets to 599 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 2: his right shoulder, fade right at like fourteen to fifteen 600 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 2: feet and knocks it down. Didn't go back to it 601 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 2: until three minutes left in the second quarter. So again 602 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 2: they're three for three, three great shots, all of them 603 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: went in three minutes in the second quarter. Pallo rips spaceline, 604 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: gets the defense in rotation, Bain gets a wide open 605 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: catch on the perimeter, He drives the close out and 606 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: hits a floater. So now they've run it four times 607 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 2: and gotten four great shots and didn't we go back 608 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: to it the rest. 609 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: Of the half. 610 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: Like right after running that action and getting Bain an 611 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: easy close out for a floater, they just go to 612 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 2: Jalen Suggs for a few possessions in a row. Like 613 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: there's not they're still lacking some of the intentionality that 614 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: they can get to there. They ran it with five 615 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: minutes left in the third quarter. That was the next 616 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 2: time they ran it, so they didn't run it for 617 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: most of the first stretch of that Like the first 618 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: seven minutes of the third quarter, they don't run it. 619 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: They run it with five minutes left in the third quarter. 620 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: Bain gets Tyrese Maxi excuse me. Palo gets Tyrese Maxey 621 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 2: on a switch. They run the action, they switch it, 622 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 2: Pallo gets Tyrese Maxey draw double team. Bain ends up 623 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 2: catching wide open, drives the close out again, kicks back 624 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 2: to Pallo. He is butt naked on the right wing 625 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: for three airballs. It but a great look again, So 626 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: you've run it five times and you've gotten five great looks. 627 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: He finally misses one. Whatever. They go back to it 628 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: in the mid fourth quarter. Four minutes and forty five 629 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 2: seconds left in the fourth quarter, Kelly Ubre dumps way 630 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: on the high side, so like Quentin Grimes is guarding Baine, 631 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 2: Bain goes to set the screen. Quentin Grimes is hugged 632 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 2: up on Bain and Kelly Ubray jumps way on the 633 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: high side off of the left wing, and Palo just 634 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: rips through and gets like the easiest little short driving 635 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: floater that he's gotten all night, because Kelly gave him 636 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: a driving lane, because Quintin Grimes wouldn't leave his man, 637 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: and because Kelly Ubray was trying to get ready for 638 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 2: a screen from Desmond Baine. Like super easy offense. They've 639 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 2: run it now six times, they've gotten a great look 640 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: every single time, and they've made five of them. They 641 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: go back to it a minute later, about three and 642 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: a half minutes left in the fourth quarter, Paalo gets 643 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: the switch. Desmond Bain sets the screen, they switch VJ 644 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 2: Edgecomb is now on Palo. Pallo backs him down to 645 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: the elbow. They double team off of Bain and Baine 646 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 2: throws an easy little kick or Palo throws an easy 647 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: little kickout to Desmond Baine in the left corner. He's 648 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 2: wide open and he knocks down the three. So they 649 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 2: ran it seven times in the game, and then they 650 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 2: got six makes, and I thought all seven shots that 651 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: they got were great. The toughest shot that they got, 652 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 2: the only really tough shot in that seven possessions, was 653 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: a great matchup for Paalo one on one left elbow 654 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: against a small guard and he got to a short 655 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: jump shot over his right shoulder and he knocked it down. 656 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: Like they're they just. 657 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: Are there is an easier way to do things than 658 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: they've been doing it. Like what's crazy is they ran 659 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: that with three and a half minutes left for the 660 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 2: seventh time, got great stuff on it every single time. 661 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 2: Right then all of a sudden, there's like a random 662 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 2: Jalen Suggs Wendell Carter junior pick and roll and Jalen 663 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 2: Suggs throws the lob out of bounds, and so this 664 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 2: is the crazy thing. Like you, Franz is obviously methodical, 665 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 2: doesn't need as much support. It looks smooth when he's 666 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: out there right then you get these easier opportunities for Paolo. 667 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 2: He ends up having his best game of the season, 668 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: and it still feels like they didn't intentionally go. 669 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: To it as much as they should. 670 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 2: Like when I was watching that game, it felt to 671 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: me like an action they should have run fifteen times. 672 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 2: It felt to me like something they should have worn 673 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: out because they weren't getting again out of those actions. 674 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 2: Only one time did they have to take a tough 675 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 2: isolation jump shot because they were getting wide open threes, 676 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: layups and easy close out attacks for short jump shots 677 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 2: that were like wide open or short floaters that were 678 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 2: wide open that were great looks. Again, it's about making 679 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 2: life easier for Paolo, offering him tactical support. That's the 680 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,959 Speaker 2: wonderful thing about having Desmond Bane that you didn't have 681 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 2: in the past. A guy that has to be guarded 682 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 2: by a very different type of defender, but that can 683 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 2: consistently make teams pay when he gets left open. 684 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: And so it just again, it was. 685 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 2: A good step forward last night, but I still feel 686 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: like there's a lot of room for improvement there, and 687 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: I really really want to see them continue. 688 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: To wear out that action. 689 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 2: Hugely encouraging that we see, you know, six of them 690 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: off the left wing, off the same spot with a 691 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: clear left corner, which is like a clear sign that 692 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 2: they're making some efforts to start running this action. I 693 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 2: just want to see it more. I want to see 694 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: it more. These inverted ball screens with the big ball 695 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,959 Speaker 2: handlers are a big market inefficiency in the NBA right now. 696 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 2: I want to see more and more of that from 697 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: Pallo and Bain. All right, last note before we get 698 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 2: out of here for today. Jamal Murray drops forty three 699 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 2: points last night against an undermanned Minnesota Timberwolves team. I 700 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: said before the season, if you guys remember, I ended 701 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 2: up ranking Jamal Murray twenty fifth in my player rankings. 702 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 2: I had him ahead of guys like Karl Anthony Towns 703 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 2: and James Harden. I ended up catching a lot of 704 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 2: shit for that and I'm not here to take a 705 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 2: victory lap because it's only been three games. I'm not 706 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 2: you know, I'm not into like overreacting to early seasons 707 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 2: stuff like that. 708 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: But that said, I. 709 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: Do think Jamal looks great to start the year, and 710 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 2: I think that that's a strong indicator for the Nuggets 711 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 2: in their future. First of all, the reason why I 712 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: put him at twenty fifth is because I am projecting forward. 713 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 2: The entire purpose of our player rankings as I'm looking 714 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: for this October through this June, not as necessarily what 715 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 2: happens in the past. We're using that to inform, but 716 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 2: it's not necessarily the end all be all for the 717 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 2: way I'm looking forward. So like, for instance, with Luca, 718 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 2: I had Luke at number two because I'm like, yeah, 719 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 2: he looked bad and fat last year, but I just 720 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 2: expected him, after the most humiliating moment of his career, 721 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 2: to come back in great shape. And guess what, Luca 722 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 2: came back and he looks fucking incredible, right, So, like 723 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 2: I've you know, was projecting what I expected to see 724 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 2: from Luca, similar from Jamal. I want to say, what 725 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 2: I was talking about was Steph Curry earlier, Like I 726 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 2: like these APEX competitors when they sense a real opportunity 727 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 2: to get the trophy. Jamal has caught some shit over 728 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 2: the years for showing up to camp out of shape 729 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 2: and not being at his best when his team needs 730 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 2: him to be. I looked at this year as like, 731 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 2: this roster is the best version of the Nuggets roster 732 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 2: since Nicole Yogis joined the team. You have this obvious 733 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 2: opportunity in front of you. I expected Jamal Murray as 734 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 2: a competitor to show to camp in shape and be 735 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 2: ready to attack the season. And he looked amazing last night. 736 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 2: He was hitting flow against drop coverage to start the game, 737 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 2: really got his three point shot going. And again, like 738 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 2: I know it doesn't seem like this, it seems kind 739 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 2: of counterintuitive, but that's a strong indicator of your legs 740 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 2: and your base. Like that's a deep shot. You're playing 741 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 2: physical basketball games. If you're getting your legs up into 742 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 2: your shot, that's a strong indicator of where your body's at. 743 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 2: So the fact that he's shooting the three ball so well, 744 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: I think is a really strong indicator. And then in 745 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 2: crunch time he started hitting like tough mid range shots, 746 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 2: like step backs, going to his right and turn around 747 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 2: right shoulder fades when he'd get a small Minnesota guard 748 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 2: on a switch like really impressive shot making. Is Denver 749 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 2: spammed the two man game down the stretch and Jamal 750 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 2: just looks amazing. He's averaging thirty points, five rebounds, and 751 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 2: six assists to start the season on sixty three percent 752 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 2: for shooting and lots of strong individual indicators. So, for instance, 753 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 2: he's shooting fifty two percent on off the dribble jump 754 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 2: shots to start the year, seven for fourteen on pull 755 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 2: up twos, and nine for seventeen on pull up threes, 756 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 2: and again, those are great signs of where his body's 757 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 2: at because he's got to hit a move to get separation. 758 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: He's hitting a dribble combination and covering ground and planting 759 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 2: his feet and then getting lift over a great defender 760 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 2: to knock a shotdown, especially on like those tough mid 761 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 2: range fadeaways and some of the longer jump shots further 762 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 2: away from basket. I think that's a great sign of 763 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,439 Speaker 2: where his body's at. And then he's fifty eight percent 764 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,720 Speaker 2: at the rim, which is really solid for a guard 765 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 2: his size who isn't an elite athlete. The floaters deadly 766 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 2: to start theory, he's killing it with that last night. 767 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 2: He's been one of the best pick and role players 768 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 2: in the entire league to start the year. This year, 769 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 2: he's run sixty three pick and rolls that have led 770 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 2: to eighty three points. Eleven NBA players to this point 771 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 2: in the season have run at least fifty pick and rolls. 772 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 2: Only Luka Doncic has has been more efficient including passes 773 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 2: than Jamal Murray has been to start the season. Obviously, 774 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 2: Nikola Jokic is a factor. There don'tant to like completely 775 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 2: gloss over that. But the point is Jamal looks great, 776 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 2: and I would argue of all the swing factors, and 777 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 2: there's a lot of swing factors, Like everyone's got to 778 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 2: stay healthy. Is Aaron Gordon gonna stay healthy? Different bench 779 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 2: guys got a pop. Camjjohnson hasn't been super involved in 780 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 2: the offense to start the season. Like they're gonna need 781 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 2: to get more out of Cam Johnson to get where 782 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 2: they want to go. Different bench groups and lineups have 783 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 2: to succeed a certain way. Different young players have to pop. 784 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 2: But I'd argue Jamal Murray being that legit number two 785 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 2: All Star type of option is the biggest and most 786 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 2: important swing factor for this team. I mean, when this 787 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: team won the title in twenty twenty three, this guy 788 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 2: averaged twenty six points per game on fifty nine percent 789 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 2: true shooting. He had eight thirty point games in that 790 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 2: playoff run for Denver. So again, like that, to me, 791 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 2: is gonna be the key indicator for them getting to 792 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 2: where they want to go. And like, he's still hit 793 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 2: shots in the playoffs, He's at clutch shots. He's had 794 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 2: big games. He had a monster game against Oklahoma City 795 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 2: last year. He had the game winners against the Lakers 796 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 2: two years ago. But there's been like an inconsistency, largely 797 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 2: fueled by the fact that his body hasn't been where 798 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 2: he's needed it to be. He come into camp out 799 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 2: of shape. Then as he's playing his way into shape, 800 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 2: he inevitably gets banged up because his body's not prepared 801 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 2: for NBA action. Then he's in and out of the 802 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 2: lineup throughout the year, and by the time he gets 803 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 2: to the postseason, he's not like really put together physically 804 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 2: the way that he needs to be. This season, he 805 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 2: looks like he's ready for the grind. He looks like 806 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 2: his body is ready which should make him more able 807 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 2: to avoid the like nitpicky injuries, the nagging injuries that 808 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 2: can happen over the course of the season. The team 809 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 2: is deeper, so they should be able to lighten his workload. 810 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 2: This is setting up. Like again, it's early, but these 811 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 2: are good check marks. These are good checkpoints for the 812 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 2: Nuggets in their championship pursuit that Jamal looks the way 813 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 2: that he looks here in the early part of the season. 814 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 2: All right, guys, that's all I have for today is 815 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 2: always to sincerely appreciate you guys for supporting us and 816 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 2: supporting the show. We would be back tomorrow morning with 817 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 2: another reaction to the Tuesday night slate. 818 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 1: I'll see you guys then