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Speaker 1: to be one. Hi, Welcome to week two of Just Be.

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Speaker 1: going to be an incredible show. Uh, Dorinda is here.

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Speaker 1: thinking about what my next steps were. And that's when

427
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: I went and met with all the Fragrance companies and

428
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 1: did my first deal with car Lux, and now today

429
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 1: I have just released my twenty seven Fragrance UM So yeah,

430
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: I think The Simple Life was definitely that turning point

431
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: in my life where I knew with this platform, I

432
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 1: could build a huge business. So that's interesting for people

433
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 1: that are listening that aren't on TV, that may not

434
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 1: be on Instagram, that you is. We have the same thing.

435
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: So what I'm finding is through interviewing really successful people

436
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 1: that there are just similar things that I have in

437
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 1: common or that we all have in common that are

438
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: just coming out and I want to know, how are

439
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 1: you the talent and also the CEO. Well, since the

440
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: beginning of my career, I've that's how it's always been

441
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm like kind of like this walking

442
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 1: live billboard brand for my business and my brand. So

443
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 1: I've always had to be the CEO and being in

444
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: charge of my business because it's such, you know, a

445
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: like massive empire that I've built, and I feel that

446
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: if you really want things to get done in the

447
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: correct way, you need to do them yourself. So I

448
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm there for all of it's It's it's

449
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: a lot that goes into it, especially when you have

450
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 1: to be that public person and you have to be

451
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: on all the time and and and really putting yourself

452
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: out there, and then also being in the boardroom doing

453
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: all my business with all my different brands and all

454
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: the companies I work with. Right, And it's funny that

455
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: you say that, because there's one thing I took away

456
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: there is that you do have to do it yourself like,

457
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 1: but there are other people around you in business that

458
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: you could trust, if I mean from like a creative

459
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: understanding your brand. Are there those people? Yeah, of course,

460
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: I'm there for everything I do, but I also have

461
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: amazing people helping you, you know, behind the scenes, supporting

462
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: me and helping make everything happen. Because you know, you know,

463
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: that's a really important part of being a businesswoman is

464
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: really putting together that team of people. If you don't

465
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: have the right team, it's it's just makes it so

466
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: much more difficult. And how hard is it to find

467
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: that it doesn't It take years and you have people

468
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: you can't trust and people that are morons, and how

469
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: long does it take to get your dream tame? Years

470
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 1: and years? It's it's really I've went through so many

471
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: different people, and I've been burned so many times, and

472
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: I've had people take advantage of me and steal from

473
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: me and lie to me and use my name as

474
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,479
Speaker 1: It's just I've been through hell and back in that

475
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 1: area of my life, because it's it's really hard to

476
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: get someone that either understands you or that doesn't become

477
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: greedy and start trying to do these side deals without

478
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: telling you. It's just there's so much that goes into it,

479
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: and when before, when I was constantly traveling, it's hard

480
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: to really even know what they're doing behind the scenes

481
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: and what they're getting away with until everything always comes

482
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: to light. Though I feel that I always find out

483
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: when something is happening, I might not find out right away.

484
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: But you know, the truth always comes out agreed. And

485
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: it seems like you used to be much more open

486
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: and I was the same way. I trusted everybody, and

487
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,719
Speaker 1: you've got to be you have to be a gangster

488
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: about it. You know, you can smell it. You can

489
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: smell it. You could just you know, when something feels wrong.

490
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 1: It could be off the littlest thing, the littlest charge,

491
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: the littlest weird thing. And then if that's one thing,

492
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,479
Speaker 1: it's like if there's one rat, there's a hundred of them.

493
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: So then you're like, oh no, no, I gotta look

494
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: down this thing because this is and then I'm just

495
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: Once that happens, I'm done with the person. I can't

496
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: trust them, and that's when I just I can't have

497
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: them in my life or my circle. How decisive are you? So?

498
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes for me, like I could take a long time

499
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 1: to order a pasta, but I could decide about my

500
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: business or buying a house in two seconds. So how

501
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: decisive are you? In business? I really just go with

502
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: my gut feeling. And even sometimes my team will be like,

503
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: I don't think you should do this, and I will

504
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: think of it because I'm always thinking of long term,

505
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: and I feel that a lot of people always think

506
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: short term because all they care about is the commission

507
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: on that one deal right away. And I don't know.

508
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: I've always been the type of person who thinks into

509
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: the future and thinks ten steps ahead. You're a big

510
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: picture thinker. If you could say, they're playing checkers in

511
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: your playing chess exactly. I love all your analogies. I'm

512
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: gonna some things. You can steal them. That's why I'm

513
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: giving them, so you can steal them. So you talk

514
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: about family and children, can you think about a relationship

515
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: partnership like the way that you invest in business, and

516
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: that specifically your business. I just mean with the same

517
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: sort of passion and intensity and capability as you as

518
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: you have in business in relationships. Because I asked myself

519
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: this question before, No, like before, I was only focused

520
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: on my work, and I think just the relationship part

521
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: of it was more me always pretending, like portraying like, oh,

522
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: this is the perfect life, have the perfect boyfriend, all

523
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: of that. But I was never truly happy because I

524
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: was just traveling. I was working so hard, so I

525
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: didn't really have time to invest into my relationship. It

526
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: was just all about my business, and you know now,

527
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: I I think that your relationship is the most important part,

528
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: and now, especially during this pandemic, to have so much

529
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: time together, I feel like the especially my boyfriend and I,

530
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: we have lived like what most couples would experience, like

531
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: in five years, in these past nine months together. So

532
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: it's broughten us so close. And I think your relationship

533
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: has to do with everything, your happiness, how you feel

534
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: the future of your family and your life. So I'm

535
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: investing more into my relationship now than I do into

536
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: my businesses because that's more important to me. Well, that's

537
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: an interesting gift from the pandemic. You had this intense

538
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: exploration that if you were distracted running everywhere, I might

539
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: not have gotten so deep in this time. Yes, definitely,

540
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: So that's a gift. Um, So explain your different path

541
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: from Nikki's, because you guys used to be one identity.

542
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: You were Paris and Nicki, Paris and Nicki, and you

543
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: really took different paths. And um, you know you're she's

544
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 1: portrayed even in the and it's not portrayed, it's maybe true.

545
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: I mean I know you both, and she's very calm.

546
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: I would say call her to silent assassin. She's very

547
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: calm and you know, but she's tough, Like I don't

548
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: think people realize how tough she is. Um and you

549
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: both have a lot of your mom and you and

550
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: your grandmother because you don't forget I knew your grandmother too.

551
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: You talk about her in the documentary. I remember her

552
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: hiding all her jewelry and the Manni's jar and like

553
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: she she was totally nuts and fun and like abroad

554
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: she was abroad, and I you know, I loved that

555
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: about her. How did that path separate? Had that path diverge? Yeah?

556
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: We started our career together as teenagers and we went

557
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: to Tokyo and that's when we started the brand of

558
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: the Hilton Sisters. And then as we grew up then

559
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: Nikki Nikki was always I think definitely when people see

560
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: the film, they're gonna see see what you decaid that

561
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: she's just such a boss, so strong, and she's always

562
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: even though she's my little sister, I've always looked up

563
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: to her like my big sister. She's always been the

564
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: one who just tells me how it is. And I

565
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: don't really have a lot of people in my life

566
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: who were like that. It's so true. And I think

567
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: she seems she comes off as hold, she's really thoughtful,

568
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: like I had, I had a loss, I lost my

569
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: fiance passed away, and you know, she really I could

570
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: tell she really felt it, like she felt really you

571
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: know bad. She really does care, and she also seems

572
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: like she cares about the people she cares about, and

573
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: then the rest she doesn't really you know, you have

574
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: that whole thing, you keep your circle tight, definitely, And

575
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: I think she also became that way because seeing me

576
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: go through so much and seeing me get burned by

577
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: people or just things that have happened to me, I

578
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: think have really affected her. And yeah, she does come

579
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: off like cold and stern, but actually she's just super

580
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: sensitive about things and it's just the way she is.

581
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: She's just such just a strong person. And I don't

582
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: know what I would do without her. One superficial question

583
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: about stuff, I feel like you need a c s oh,

584
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: a chief stuff officer. I could do that if I retire.

585
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: If she really all goes to ship with this podcast,

586
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: I could be a chief stuff officer. I would run

587
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: that ship like a tight ship. You have no idea

588
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: like I'd be this comes in that goes out this

589
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: goes here? Do you really give a shit about the

590
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: stuff of it? What are your three or a few

591
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: prize possessions that are not you know, not your pets,

592
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: not people like material objects? What would you? What are

593
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: your prize possessions? Um? My things I love. I love

594
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: my Slive mobile, which is my my BMW I, which

595
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: I had wrapped in like holographic. It looks like Unicorn

596
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: mermaid skin. It's like amazing. Okay, I love that. And

597
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: I love my twenty one birthday dress as something that

598
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: I love and cherish because I think it's just such

599
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: an iconic piece of fashion and like history. Okay, and

600
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: then what else do I love? I love my doggy mansion.

601
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: You have a dogy mansion. I love it because when

602
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: I was little, I just springs back so many memories. Um,

603
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,479
Speaker 1: when we used to live at Stradella and bell Air,

604
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: we had this dollhouse that my parents had for us,

605
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: and I said, one day, when I have kids, I'm

606
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: going to build them a dollhouse like this. And because

607
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: I don't have kids yet, I built this house for

608
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: my for babies, my little dogs, and it's just it's

609
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: so cute because it's like a miniature version of my house.

610
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: It looks like exactly the same on the outside and

611
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: has like furniture and like really cute wallpaper and the

612
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: chandelier and it's just it's so cute. Oh, I love it.

613
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: And it's in l A. Yes, is that the house

614
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: that that Jacqueline Smith used to live in? That was

615
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: like the biggest thing that I could ever even imagine

616
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: back then. Yes, exactly. Oh my god. I'm so happy

617
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: for you, and I really know how much time this

618
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: means to you, and I just want people to really

619
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: understand how hard you have to work day and day

620
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: out to make it happen, which is also how people

621
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: decide whether to do it or not, because you've got

622
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: to be up first, their last, keep your eye on

623
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: the prize at all times. You know, you have your

624
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: eye on the prize, and that's why you're you know

625
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: where you are. Hard work is very important, but also

626
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: just being a good person, because I feel that a

627
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: lot of people when they do come in this industry,

628
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: they forget where they came from and they turn into

629
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: this different person and they end up thinking they're better

630
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: than people. And my mom always instilled that on me.

631
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: The night before the simple life airage. She said, when

632
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: this air is on Fox tomorrow, your life is going

633
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,719
Speaker 1: to change forever. And I want you to remain and

634
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: stay the same, sweet, down to earth Paris that I

635
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: love and know and and not never let this get

636
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: to your head. And that's a piece of advice I

637
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: always used and always we'll use for the rest of

638
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: my life. And I'm so lucky to have that support

639
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: system of my family to give me that advice, because

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of kids in Hollywood they don't

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Speaker 1: you'll that's the kind of parent you'll be, and you'll

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Speaker 1: just pay it forward and the cycle will continue like

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Speaker 1: it did with your grandmother passing all this wisdom onto you,

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Speaker 1: and you'll pass it on to your kids and so on.

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Speaker 1: So I thank you so much. Just I'm glad you

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Speaker 1: trusted me today because I you know, I just wanted

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Speaker 1: really makes you you. So I appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. It's so much fun talking with you. I

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Speaker 1: miss you, I love you. I love you too, Thank you, Paris.

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Speaker 1: I was going to see maybe Niki later, so she

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Speaker 1: asked me for a margarita recipe the other day, so

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Speaker 1: I guess she's not living on planet Earth, because I

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Speaker 1: don't know who doesn't know how to make a margharita.

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Speaker 1: But um, I will talk to her and tell her

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Speaker 1: how great it was, and I love you too, and

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Speaker 1: the best of success, and try to sleep same time

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Speaker 1: bed every night if you can when you can, because

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Speaker 1: I have the same issues. But we'll talk about that offline,

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Speaker 1: all right, excecause yes, bye the bye. I am so

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Speaker 1: happy about that interview. I just feel that people are misunderstood.

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Speaker 1: And you just see you can't judge a book by

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Speaker 1: the original icon on and Paris Hilton talks no differently

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Speaker 1: and thinks no differently about business than Mark Cuban does.

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Speaker 1: And the the average person would not think you're putting

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Speaker 1: Mark Cuban and Paras Ulton in the same sentence. But

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Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is I had Paras Hilton

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Speaker 1: on the show because she is a business person. The

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Speaker 1: bottom line is there a certain tenants that everyone has,

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Speaker 1: which is like, if you want to do something right,

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Speaker 1: you have to do with yourself. It's that you have

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Speaker 1: to be working harder than anyone else. It's that you

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Speaker 1: can't really trust everybody. All these things. We're hearing these

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Speaker 1: to Bosama st John who is the head of marketing

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Speaker 1: at Netflix, to Paris Hilton. And that's what's fascinating to me.

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Speaker 1: So I'm loving it, and we're getting deeper and deeper,

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Speaker 1: and I'm really grateful. So thanks for listening. Remember to

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Speaker 1: come back next week and remember to rate, review, and subscribe.

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