1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to Truth Hounds, a production of My Heart Radio. 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm Anna and I've been unemployed for two years now, 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: so I really have nothing going on. And I'm Kyle, 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: and in middle school I received the ward most Enthusiastic 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: to learn. So that makes me pretty special. And that 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: is what makes us the perfect investigative duo. We are 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: two friends who love each other very much, but what 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: we love even more is getting to the bottom of mysteries. 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: All mysteries, sure, but small mysteries specifically. Trust me, No 10 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: mystery is too small? No, no, no, Why don't you 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: trust me when I tell you we are ready to 12 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: sniff around? We are the The Truth Hounds, Episode ten, 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: What is Fear and Why Can't I Look Away? Part seven? Yeah, 14 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: check this out. I don't wish them. I don't wish that. Oh. 15 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: I had just motioned to a semi truck driver to 16 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: honk his horn and he did, you see. To pass 17 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: the time and to honestly avoid our fears of what 18 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: was to come, we played childish road games. I'll admit it, 19 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: we did. But come on, who doesn't love Hong Kong? 20 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: And hey, don't lie to me. So there we were 21 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: on the road on our way to confront beat Macromay, 22 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: and yes, it was pretty fun to play Hong Kong. 23 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: The journey to Vegas seemed long, but nothing compared to 24 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: the bigger journey of us getting to the road to 25 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: Vegas in the first place. All this time in the 26 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: car gave us time to reflect on what we had 27 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: been through. I had found a website with a spell 28 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: binding man who we would later dub Beep macromy and 29 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: I showed it to Kyle just google film festival. How 30 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: I heard it. I saw the website, I saw the man, 31 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: and I got scared. Oh what is that so far? 32 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: What is that scary? Yeah? I wanted to make Kyle 33 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: less scared, so I proposed we confront beat back for me. 34 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: Head on, I think we should make a movie to 35 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: submit to this festival. Oh my god. All we knew 36 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: about this man was that he ran a horror film festival. 37 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: So we made a short horror film in the hopes 38 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: of getting into the festival. In turn, your Living Room nine. 39 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: Turns out what we've just seen is a horror and hey, 40 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: let's not gloss over making the film and all that 41 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: had entailed. You know what, We're going to make the 42 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: short in four hours. We sought out the perfect director. Okay, 43 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: let's make some hired a screenwriter with festival experience. I've 44 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: written lots of shorts before, one of all went through 45 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: the Sundancial festival. Worked meticulously with our acting coach. What 46 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: the intention behind the world brought on professional actors? Well, 47 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: she just had the it factor. Spread our resources thin 48 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: raising funds for the hundred fifty dollar submission fee. We 49 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: are seeking your how today because we want to make 50 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: a short. Found it nearly broke our backs trying to 51 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: stay awake and upright through the long are Jewish shooting hours. 52 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: It's really interesting. I don't really know what factors do 53 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: this hard and do not forget about the pizza and 54 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: the salad. The pizza and salad had arrived, but it 55 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: seemed like no one and the crew scared all of 56 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: this to make a movie that we hoped would get 57 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: into the festival. And here's the thing it did. Then 58 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: we had to raise funds again to attend the festival 59 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: and get over the fact that the festival was taking 60 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: place on line, virtual screen or sufficient deadline. We are 61 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: currently organizing our virtual festival this year. We wouldn't get 62 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: the chance to meet Beat mcramay face to face. We 63 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: got mad, get me, get that rap rap, so mad 64 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: that we decided to take a few weeks off. Where 65 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: did that leave us? Didn't that mean we were done? 66 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 1: That was it? And then we got COVID. I'll have COVID, 67 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: Nanna also have COVID? And then we got even We 68 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: staked out his house. We were just two girls on 69 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: a drive, definitely not psyching it. And then we decided 70 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: we were taking it too far, so we reeled it 71 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: in by organizing our very own film festival. Festival is 72 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: a direct portal to the universe of the unknown, and 73 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: turned the tables on beat Macromy, inviting him to take 74 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: a step into our world. We had to book a venue, 75 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: select real films, conduct a real horror panel. There's so 76 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: much for going out the very film Festival. Wow, they 77 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: don't tell you until you get up here. Help writing 78 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: him and he didn't show up. Well, he emailed us 79 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: and told us he was away from his desk. I 80 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: have been away from my death. And then he saw 81 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: that there was another way. Beat Macromy was holding another 82 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: film event, this time in person but out of state, 83 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: and I saw an event happening in a couple of 84 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: weeks in Las Vegas. So we packed our bags, took 85 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: a detour to a psychic's place to make sure we 86 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: would be safe, then hit the road and on the 87 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: way there we hit a revelation, something that the psychic 88 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: had not predicted. Did you see what I just saw? 89 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: I cannot even believe the event we were actually driving 90 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: to was a sexy horror musical. And then we hit 91 00:07:46,160 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: something else. Traffic stop. We're stuck in a How long 92 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: is this stuck in traffic? And it's just a huge 93 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: jam At this point, it's I mean, like, where the 94 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: chances It's just crazy because what if we have to 95 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: We're trying to get to Vegans We're trying to get 96 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: to Vegas. I mean, what if we have to go 97 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: straight from the car to the damn musical sexy horror musically. Wan, 98 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: I'm be able to drop off my bags and slash 99 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: some water on my face. Yeah, I would love to 100 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: slash some water on my face before and you know, 101 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: this is too much, This is crazy. It seemed another 102 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: thing that the psychic had not predicted was a huge 103 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: traffic jam on the fifteen, But to be fair to them, 104 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: we showed the psychic a photo of beat macromy We 105 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: didn't show the psychic a photo of the highway, so 106 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: that was our mistake. We sat in the traffic jam 107 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: and lamented. You know what. Honestly, it's times like these 108 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: that I wish I had basically our podcast to listen to. 109 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: But we we there isn't a podcast like ours. There 110 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: isn't a podcast like ours for us, so I'm actually 111 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: envious of the listeners. The traffic didn't clear up, and honestly, 112 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: he started to get really bored fast, and eventually that 113 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: boredom seemed to drive us to madness. Well, between us, 114 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: we have one excuse me or excuse what? Why is this? What? Out? 115 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: There's a guy who was kind of staring at us, 116 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: and it was a little scary. But then I go, 117 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stare back at it because he doesn't maybe 118 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm scary. See he hasn't looked at us since he's 119 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: passing us right now. If I go, Kyle, you don't know, 120 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: maybe I'm scared. Okay, So someone comes into your house, yeah, 121 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: like attack you. I guess your tactic would be to 122 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: be like, I've ben't we for you? Yeah? You go, 123 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: they break into your house and you go. At last, 124 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: you go and come along. I don't even know what 125 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: we were saying back there. My Toyota Prius was turning 126 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: into a certified madhouse, no offense. But as time passed, 127 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: boredom read imagination, we found ourselves imagining what this sexy 128 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: Horn musical might be. Like it, let's just try to 129 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: picture what we're gonna see tonight, because I think there's 130 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: no way to get ready for what we're gonna see tonight. 131 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: But what about um? What about like like she moved 132 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: her spider legs, But you don't think it's like that. 133 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a lot like when I 134 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: saw my cousins. My cousin was in Macbeth play. Okay, 135 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: we're not in the theater, so it's okay, Scottish pocket 136 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: at my my cousin was in a sexy Macbeth play. 137 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: So like the three Witches at the beginning, we're just 138 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: like make a bed, okay, Oh like Chicago, like Cicero 139 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: lick shits, sex sex themselves, Oh myka, like let me 140 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: remove my lip ring before I kiss you on the mouth. 141 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: You know, but you love me? You wn by devil hole? 142 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: Do you think it's like that. Okay. We really didn't 143 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: know what to expect, but one thing was for sure. 144 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: We knew what we would be seeing would be life changing. 145 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: Then we sat in more traffic, and by the way, 146 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: the traffic was bad around us, a lifeless desert, hot air, tumbleweeds, 147 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: army man crawling their way across the barren land, bugs 148 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: that seemed to be dormant mid air. You looked to 149 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: the car on your left, and the driver looks like 150 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: he wants to kill himself. He looked at the car 151 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: and you're right, and there's a woman laughing maniacally. You 152 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: say to yourself, maybe she's not laughing at me. You 153 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: look back at her and she's nodding, holding up a 154 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: sign that says, we literally have been in this traffic 155 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: for over two hours. No, it's been an hour or 156 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: two two and a half hours now, So we can't 157 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: even go to the hotel. We have to go straight 158 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: to the fucking where the funk the thing is, and 159 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: it's got sauce baked on her shirt. You don't understand, okay, 160 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: So basically I didn't I didn't find you know, I 161 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: didn't find it necessary to say anything earlier. But basically, 162 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: I spelled a lot of ketchup in my black T 163 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: shirt earlier. He acts like intertwined with the fabric of 164 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: my shirts, baked into my shirts. It's also it's like 165 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: cotton and ketchup exactly. It's like in the DNA of 166 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: the shirt. I don't know if you've ever been there, 167 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: but sitting and stand still traffic in the middle of 168 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: the desert with ketchup baked into the DNA of your 169 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: shirt was hell. Which was ironic because we were on 170 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: our way to an event that was terrifying, and it 171 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: felt as if we had to walk through hell to 172 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: get there. It was almost like the universe was asking us, 173 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: are you sure you want to do this? And then 174 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: like all traffic out of nowhere, with no rhyme or reason, 175 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: it just ended. That's it. That's it. We had sat 176 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: in so much traffic that we were now forced to 177 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: drive straight to the event. There would be no time 178 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: to collect ourselves, splash water on our faces, get a 179 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: bite to eat. We would immediately be thrown into the 180 00:15:55,600 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: sexy horror musical den. Maybe, though well, this was definitely 181 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: a curse, you could also prove to be a blessing 182 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: because it would mean that there would be no time 183 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: to talk ourselves out of going. The fear was building. 184 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: Do you feel something something scary? I mean, yeah, I'm 185 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: definitely scared. I'm like, you can't not do it. There's 186 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: too many people who would be really mad and disappointed 187 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: in us. So I like, I feel like we're like 188 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: there's no way out. Yes, yeah, definitely, damn well os. 189 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: Up until this point, Anna was not afraid, and now, 190 00:16:53,720 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: with twenty minutes to go, she became very afraid. M Then, 191 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: now I'm starting to get a little nervous. So so 192 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: to calm my nerves, I proposed we rehearse what we 193 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: would say. I would play myself and Kyle would play 194 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: beat back. Romy She was really good at acting, so 195 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: I was certain she would do a hell of a job. 196 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: The reason for doing this was because we were getting 197 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: nervous and the psychic had instructed us to be concise 198 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: and straightforward. And then also that we needed to get 199 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: him to sign a release form that would be no 200 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: easy feat. And lastly, let's not forget we needed to 201 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: not fall in love. Hey wish us luck on that one. 202 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: So we got to practicing. I I'm so sorry to 203 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: interrupt it's totally okay. Um, are you deep macmay Um? Well, actually, yeah, 204 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: that I am. We we're actually wondering if it's okay 205 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: if we could like interview you, if that would be 206 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: okay for um, just like I ask you a public questions? Um, 207 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: thing is I say? I just kind of have to talk. 208 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: It could be really quick of you, like right now? Um, okay, 209 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: what what is it? More? Uh? We're actually might put 210 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: together a little podcast. Oh yeah. Once we had figured 211 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: how the conversation would flow and how we would approach 212 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: getting him to sign the release form, we talked about 213 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: what questions we would actually ask him, because keep in mind, 214 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: this was a once in a lifetime opportunity. But let 215 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: me ask you this. He goes, yeah, shoot, what do 216 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: you want to know? Okay? What are we about to know? 217 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: So I'm him, Okay, I don't know anything. Or nope, 218 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm asking you because I don't know what to ask. 219 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm him Okay, Okay, Well what's hell comes here? Yeah? 220 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: This time around, I would step into the cloak of 221 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: beet macromy you know his role, and Kyle would play 222 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: her very interesting self. Thanks so much for taking this 223 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: interview of A First question would be like, you're the 224 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: festival director of festival, when what all goes into putting 225 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: the other festival? That's a pretty big question, a lot 226 00:19:55,400 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: of moving parts. Okay, m hmm, I know things are 227 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: getting really good, but we have to take a break 228 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: for some ads, and the ad break is over back 229 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: to it. So there were three questions we needed to 230 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: ask beat macromy One we would ask him a psych 231 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: out question. We would go, so you run this amazing festival, 232 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: what goes into that? Truthfully, this was a decoy question. 233 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: Just get him feeling comfy, are thinking being Get him 234 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: talking about something he was passionate about while we stood 235 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: by and got over the shock of being in front 236 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: of him. Two, this was a real question. We had 237 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:14,239 Speaker 1: to ask him about film festival roster. Remember when we 238 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: first visited the site, we were dumbfounded at the frankly 239 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: contrasting lineup of festival staff. In case you need a reminder, 240 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: she said that his coordinated. She's holding up a metal 241 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: um demon. Yeah, this guy just looks cool. This guy, Okay, 242 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: that's actually the scariest picture of all be it just 243 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: looks like a guy in his house. He took his 244 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: picture by accident without his share and to finish off 245 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: the toughest and probably the most important question. We hated 246 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: to be money minded, but we needed to know where 247 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: did this man get off arging us a hundred and 248 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: fifty dollars to apply to his film festival, and hey, 249 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: don't forget about the additional fifty dollars for attending the 250 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: festival that was not in person but online. I'm scared 251 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: to do the one question. That one was a little 252 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: that's last. But I think the word, the way you 253 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: worded it was great. Actually, I don't know. I think 254 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: we have to. I think that's we have to. You know, 255 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: it's a exit. Yeah, since we were still scared, but 256 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: at least we were armed with a plan. We had 257 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: spent most of the drive preparing for whatever was to come, 258 00:22:53,760 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: and before we knew it, we were at the location. Yeah, sure, 259 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: there's no one here. There is kind of no one here. Okay, 260 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: there's no one here. There's literally no one, no one here, 261 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: that is true. Okay, should we go into the parking 262 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: lot here? Do you want to parking? Or maybe there isn't. Okay, 263 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: there's one guy that's the theater, so that's where it 264 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: will be. But there's little bays, so let's see. We 265 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 1: found it and parked. We were happy to discover that 266 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: the auditorium where the event would take place it was 267 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,959 Speaker 1: actually housed in a public building which seemed to be 268 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: really busy. That was a huge relief, and at the 269 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: same time, we weren't celebrating just yet, because who knew. 270 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: Maybe all the parked cars signified that the building was busy. Well, 271 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: the event, well that could still be ill attended. That's 272 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: the sound of my seatbelt. I'm going to take us 273 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: of a coffee because this is a lot. We walked 274 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: up to the building, wondering if this was the right place, 275 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: But we didn't have to wonder for too long because 276 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: immediately we saw something, something that was frankly scary, something 277 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: that confirmed both our doubts and our fears. I'm going 278 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: to do my best to describe it for you now. 279 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: M A wall of heat wafted in front of us. 280 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: We trudged through it. Yeah, and there on the gray 281 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: concrete steps leading up to the main entrance of the 282 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: building perched a gargoyle like figure sprawled across three steps. 283 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: Our gaze traveled upward feet to head plain white shoes 284 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: like heads, big jean shorts, black fannie pack, huge pink 285 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: T shirt, and then full stop h full zombie makeup, 286 00:25:54,119 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: dull gray skin resembling the flush of the undead, cuts 287 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: slashed across the face expose wounds, oozing green lizard like eyes, 288 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: darting around unpredictably, bright red hair the color of a 289 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: banner welcoming you to Hell, formed in a pixie cut 290 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: reminiscent of the movement of dancing flames. This woman was horrifying, 291 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: and even more horrifying was the confirmation we were in 292 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: the right place. As we tried to sneak past her, 293 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: her head rotated towards us, slowly, the pace of a 294 00:26:54,480 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: door knob being opened in a horn. Her beady eyes 295 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: stopped fluttering and for a split second, devoted themselves entirely 296 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: to us, as if to say, enter at your own risk. 297 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: Then she inhaled her cigarette and a cloud of smoke 298 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: entwined with her scarlet mane. Once we were inside, we 299 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: tried to get the lay of the land. We quickly 300 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: got lost. Oh to get to the auditorium to we 301 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: have to go outside. H okay, okay, thank you very much, awesome, 302 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: thank you. We followed the directions and rounded the corner. 303 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: We were tense. The next thing we knew, we were 304 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: in a brightly lit auditorium facing a grand stage. This 305 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: was not at all what we had been expecting for starters. 306 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: There were about thirty attendees scattered throughout the room, most 307 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: of them completely unremarkable, until the gargoyle from the front 308 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: steps darted into the room with the ferocity of a 309 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: startled bat. Looking just past her, our eyes focused on 310 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: another attendee who seemed to be how do I say this? 311 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: With her. Though they sat far apart and didn't appear 312 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: to know one another, they shared something in common, a 313 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: terrifying look. This person donned a brown cloak which appeared 314 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: to be dusty, as though it had been kicking around 315 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: a cave for the last few centuries millennia. Even his 316 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: face chalk white, black blood dripping from his mouth, his 317 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: arms skeletal, a permanent smile slit across his face, and 318 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: this really proved to be the pattern for the full audience. 319 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: For every five normal people, there would be one of 320 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: well them. Later we would come to find that this 321 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: was actually a costume contest, but in the moment we 322 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: did not know that we took our seats, breathing a 323 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: little sigh of relief. We were in Vegas at a 324 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: real in person event, attended by enough people to grant 325 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: us anonymity, and some of those people looked freaky. After 326 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: we waited for a few minutes, the lights dimmed. I 327 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: gripped Anna's arm. What the hell were we about to see? 328 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: And would beat Macro? Maybe there? I mean he would 329 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: be hard to miss, full face of makeup, white contact lenses, 330 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: a slithering tongue. Remember we were expecting a film festival 331 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: and now this was a live theater event. Music began 332 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: to swell. I don't know how to categorize this type 333 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: of music, but if you had a gun to my head, 334 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: I guess I would say it was a French bistro. 335 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: A few moments of music later, someone stepped out eating 336 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: and I welcome you to our Natalie. But monsters today 337 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: is the celebration, the celebration of blossoms. The voice sounded familiar, 338 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: but the person standing in front of us was a 339 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: complete stranger. It was the guy who looked completely normal. 340 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: Rectangular glasses, thin wire frame a k a. Lens craft, 341 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: grass looking glasses, average height, average build, wearing a button up. 342 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: Nothing really stood out, but that voice. The first I'd 343 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: like to thank you to a place of nowhere, Yeah, 344 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: where anything is possible. This is my old temper, and 345 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: this is my story where my tragedy begins. It is. 346 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: Here's an let Jean, I present you Park Bond of 347 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: that voice. There's something about that voice. We checked the playbill. 348 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: It was just some guy. The name didn't ring any 349 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: belts anyway. The completely normal looking host exited the stage, 350 00:32:51,800 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: and then the sexy horror musical had begun. The host 351 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: came back out, now an actor in the musical. Okay, 352 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: that's that's actually plenty. We sunk into our seats and 353 00:33:50,160 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: let the show envelop us. Yea. The show had all 354 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: the cornerstones of a typical musical. There was lots of music, blackouts, dancing. 355 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: The actor spoke with a dramatic cadence typical to a musical, 356 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: but if we were being honest, it was definitely a 357 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: bit homemade. Rulled over to a scientist is a detached observer? Yeah, 358 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: you know it was you know yeah. We sat through 359 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: a few scenes and then the completely normal protagonist and 360 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: host of the show came out holding a huge noose 361 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: a chorus of cloaked figures circled him. One set down 362 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 1: a chair. Instinctively, the completely normal guy and host stepped 363 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: onto the chair, and trigger warning attempted to hang himself. 364 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: Before he did, though, he opened his mouth to deliver 365 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 1: his swan song. A couple of notes in a chill 366 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: ran through our veins. This was a number that we 367 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: actually recognized. I knew about. Yeah, you can find them. 368 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: We knew this song. The reason why we knew it 369 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: was because we had to recreate it for an earlier episode, 370 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: because it was the exact same song that they had 371 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: played at the beginning of film festival. Here's a clip 372 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: of me recreating it. I was on anough pirate ship 373 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: and she was all I cared. I was on enough 374 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: pirate ship, and she was all I cared. We knew 375 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:42,240 Speaker 1: the song because we had heard the song, and in fact, 376 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: we had heard this very voice sing this very song, 377 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: and that voice had belonged to none other than Beep Macromy. 378 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: So this meant that this person singing right before our 379 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: very eyes. I don't know how to say this, this 380 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: was Beep Macromy. This normal looking guy lens Crafter's asked 381 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 1: looking glasses who had welcomed us to the event. This 382 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: this was beat Macromy. That's why his voice sounded familiar. 383 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it appeared like we had just driven 384 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: to Vegas to see Beat Macromy completely shed his lizard 385 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: skin and emerge in chrysalis as a completely average looking guy. 386 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: But it was still unclear what was costume and what 387 00:37:54,880 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: was real. Whoever this guy was, we had just journeyed 388 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: for hours to sit before him and watch him perform 389 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: a sexy horror musical which he was the star and 390 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: narrator of the show went on and on and on, 391 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: and to be frank, we started to get worried about 392 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: whether we would be able to make our dinner reservation. 393 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: All in all, there were three acts, and to be honest, 394 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: it got less and less scary, and to be even 395 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: more honest, we weren't quite sure it was ever even 396 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: technically sexy, except I guess the beginning number. Yeah, it's sexy, 397 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,919 Speaker 1: you know, because they go oh and uh and all 398 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Can we hear that again? Actually, 399 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: m m m, I actually really like that. Let's by jam. 400 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: After a few more numbers where people inexplicably kept trying 401 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, trigger warning to kill themselves. The show 402 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: ended MM, and now an ad break. The ad break 403 00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: is over. It was time to do the thing that 404 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: we had come to do, confront beat Macromay or this 405 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:14,240 Speaker 1: lens craft or asked looking glasses guy. Our fear level 406 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: was at an all time high. It was blinding. This 407 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: must be what people mean when they talk about mothers 408 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 1: lifting cars off their babies, bodies fueled by pure adrenaline 409 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: coursing through their veins. This was how we felt in 410 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: that moment. But we were immediately thrown into a difficult position, 411 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: one that we hadn't planned for at all. Be macromy 412 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: had been there in person. It was him, but as 413 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 1: soon as the cast took their final bow and the 414 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: curtains closed, he was con He had not planned for 415 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: this at all. We figured he would be constantly orbiting 416 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: around the event and we'd simply pause him on one 417 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: of these frankly routine orbits and go, hey, can we 418 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 1: interview you? But now it seemed like he was a 419 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 1: big star, and we lacked the all access credentials to 420 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: get even a lick of his attention. Then we spotted 421 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: someone else, someone who we recognize and knew could help us. 422 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: The second name under beat Macromy's on the roster of Misfits. 423 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: That was the staff of the film festival. We went 424 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 1: for it. Okay, I want to sry. We just want 425 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: to say we're really big fans of the festival. So yeah, Canna, yeah, yeah, yeah, Kyle, Yeah, 426 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: we went to the virtue of the virtual here. Yeah, yeah, 427 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: of course, yeah, this is great. Of course. We also 428 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: wanted to meet I don't know, do you know if 429 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: they'll come out and do you know if they'll come out? Okay, cool. 430 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,839 Speaker 1: I don't know if he would know off the bat, 431 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: but where We actually wanted to do a really quick 432 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: interview with him for a podcast. He would be down, cool, awesome, Well, 433 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Awesome, thank you so much. We 434 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: really love you. That. Oh my god. I don't know 435 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: what it was about what we had said, but immediately 436 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: jolted out of a seat to go grab b Macromid. 437 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: I guess he really wanted the guy to get interviewed. 438 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: We were thankful, but I did find kind of jarring. 439 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: This was the same mysterious guy who couldn't attend our 440 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: festival because he was away from his desk, But now 441 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: he was here and his colleague was eager to have 442 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: him interviewed. It was going our way, but seeing the 443 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: plan actually in motion completely caught a soft guard. After 444 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:31,439 Speaker 1: almost no time, someone emerged from the curtains. It felt 445 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: like a fever dream. One second he was peeking from 446 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,839 Speaker 1: behind the curtain, the next he was in front of us, 447 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:48,399 Speaker 1: two ft away. So I guess here we go. Oh 448 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 1: my god, you guys, the listeners, I hope you're sitting down. 449 00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: This is our conversation with be macromay. A great job. 450 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you. It's a pleasure. It 451 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: was so cool. We wanted to just ask you a 452 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:14,240 Speaker 1: few questions. Yeah, absolutely, and it's okay, we record, sure, okay, 453 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 1: so much because actually oh really yeah yeah yeah, and 454 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: we were wondering. We actually wanted to ask because we 455 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: kind of first knew you. Yes, yes, So we were 456 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: really surprised. We didn't even know when we showed up 457 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 1: to me that it would be quite frankly, you guys 458 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: would be out of out of garb. Yeah, so I 459 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: don't know. Are you Deem? Your name is? They're two different, 460 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: ended was the festival director. Fast. He's a he's a host, 461 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: he's a helpful hand behind the scenes and in front 462 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: of the scenes. Yeah, isn't uh an off prob By 463 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 1: actor worked in Hollywood for about ten years. Um, yeah, 464 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm an entertainer. We could tell you thank 465 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,240 Speaker 1: you really good. Yeah, it was great. It was an amazing, 466 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: totally different side of what we were expecting from you. 467 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: Thank you, I felt. I hope you enjoyed it. We 468 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 1: had a wonderful time putting it together. Oh my god, 469 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, look, the first question was great 470 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 1: because it bought us time while we adjusted to the 471 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: reality of being in his presence exactly as we had 472 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:33,359 Speaker 1: predicted in the car. But eyes on the price. Time 473 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: for questions two and three. Let's go. Yeah. We also 474 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 1: were wondering about some of the people who yes from 475 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:46,439 Speaker 1: the festival, as is the creator of shot festival fest 476 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: here Beat mcramad pointed to the guy who we just 477 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 1: talked to, and this entirely confused us because I guess 478 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 1: he had actually been the wanted to start the festival, 479 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 1: not Be Macromay. So Be Macromay was more of the 480 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,839 Speaker 1: face of the festival, like Tyra Banks and cover Girl. 481 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: She doesn't own it. Okay, I know we're getting off track, 482 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:23,479 Speaker 1: but so was he. Remember, we were trying to find 483 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: out why some of the festival staff looked frankly weird 484 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:34,320 Speaker 1: while others looked eerily normal but okay. Also worth noting 485 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,280 Speaker 1: was that here he kept referring to beat back remain 486 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: the third person, as if it wasn't him, But again 487 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 1: it was. He's the guy. He's the guy who hired 488 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,359 Speaker 1: over ten years ago, about ten years ago to host 489 00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:00,919 Speaker 1: the events. Yes, even around for a while as fest 490 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: and they came together around twelve. I would say something 491 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 1: like that, and it has been on board with Shockfests 492 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 1: ever since. I restated our initial question, how does like 493 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: how like? We looked through the about page and there 494 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 1: are a lot of different people involved. How do you 495 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 1: how does how do people get involved? Or how are 496 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: all these people a part of best? Like? How did 497 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 1: you guys all meet? Or it's it's been years in 498 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: the making. Some of the members of our team who 499 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: are managers have been on the team way longer than 500 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 1: even beep us or I have. UM. Some members are 501 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: new and we do have positions where we we opened 502 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: up for jobs and of course we look volunteering. UM. 503 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 1: If anybody's ever interested in being a part of Fest. 504 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 1: Just email us at Film Festival at gmail dot com. 505 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 1: We love meeting new people. I know that I've been 506 00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,320 Speaker 1: unemployed for two years now. I don't care about this 507 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: job opportunity with your festival. I just want to understand 508 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,800 Speaker 1: why some people on your roster look weird and some 509 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: people look normal. It was cool looking through the plotos 510 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 1: because it really seemed like there's a variety of types 511 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: of people. There is some people are people are from 512 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: some very diverse back super speaking to and then something happened. 513 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 1: He was whisked away. It was like he was on 514 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: the red carpet and we were working for entertainment tonight. 515 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 1: And then his pr person guided his lower back and 516 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 1: was like, you're needed over here. He dismissed us politely 517 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 1: and threw at an offer to speak to us. Later 518 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: to be frank. This offer seemed insincere, but eyes on 519 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: the prize. Our producers were very clear that we needed 520 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 1: him to sign a release form. So before he Cinderella away, 521 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 1: we made a Hail Mary with a second left on 522 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,479 Speaker 1: the clock. We just have something for him to sign, 523 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: just so it's okay that we use the audio, and 524 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,840 Speaker 1: then what if he okay if we use little bits 525 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 1: from the actual event would be okay, awesome, Yep, we 526 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 1: got people waiting downstairs. That's all good, that's all good. 527 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 1: You heard that right be back from me was big 528 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:39,879 Speaker 1: timing us. I'm sorry, but he was acting like both 529 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 1: Madonna and her bodyguard. We left the event confused about 530 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 1: what had just happened. It honestly felt like he was 531 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: too busy for us, Like I kind of because of 532 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 1: what the fight kick had said. I was very like 533 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 1: I didn't want him to like he he almost made 534 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 1: me feel like I was a loser. He made me 535 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: feel like I was a loser too. That's really interesting 536 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: because he was I don't know if you noticed he 537 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,359 Speaker 1: was looking away from it. He was looking beyond us. Yeah, 538 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 1: like he was like trying to go somewhere. And he 539 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 1: even the guy he even went a lot of people 540 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: to see so and he said, we can come back 541 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 1: to this. I mean that, I feel like he they Hollywood, 542 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 1: It does a kid't they like? Straight up Hollywood. I know. 543 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,240 Speaker 1: We couldn't even get out all of our questions because 544 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 1: they were like show she was away. That was literally insane. 545 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 1: I was so crazy. We were in shock. And then 546 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 1: as we were walking back to Kyle's previous we realized something. Okay, 547 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 1: I think we need to decide right now if it's 548 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 1: over or if we're going to wait around for him 549 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,840 Speaker 1: one more time, one more time, because now that we 550 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 1: have he signed the slip and we can use the audio, 551 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 1: we can literally ask him anything. Well, so what if 552 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 1: I were to see him again? I'd want to go. 553 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 1: I have a really good question. I'm so sorry, Um, 554 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 1: where do you get off charging filmmakers fifty dollars to 555 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 1: buy a ticket to go to their own screen or 556 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: a hundred fifty dollars systement to a festival? Um? So 557 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 1: kind of what's up with that? Because we already have 558 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:32,279 Speaker 1: the provision that was right, we were so bulldozed by 559 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 1: his celebrity essence that we didn't even have a chance 560 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 1: to ask what had originally seemed to be the most 561 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 1: important question. Why did beat Macromate charges so much money 562 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 1: to get accepted to a festival on zoom and attended 563 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:55,720 Speaker 1: on zoo? I wanted to go find it, but Kyle 564 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 1: had a different thought. I think it might be over. 565 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 1: H you think this is it? I think I just 566 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: don't know. I just don't see you getting a response 567 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 1: that you want. Damn, she was right. That's why she's 568 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: my girl. We had stood face to face with fear 569 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: itself and looked it in the eyes, and it turned 570 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 1: out that it was an aspiring actor who was completely normal. 571 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: The only thing scary about this guy is that he 572 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 1: didn't have time for us. Damn. That was a hell 573 00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 1: of a way to end the season. Ye. We made 574 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:06,760 Speaker 1: it to our dinner reservation and from there drove straight 575 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: to the beach to talk. Oh my god, Ah, how 576 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 1: are you doing. I'm so tired. I can't believe you 577 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:30,320 Speaker 1: made us drive from Vegas to Needles to l A 578 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:35,880 Speaker 1: to Malibu. Do you know how much d was a little? 579 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 1: I agree, I'm really sleepy. Mm hmm h m m m. 580 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:56,919 Speaker 1: It's contagious. Yeah, you get a stretch. Romen. Are you tired? Yeah, 581 00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:04,839 Speaker 1: I'm tired. I've drove it. Oh okay, well, Roman didn't 582 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 1: drive from Las Vegas that Malibu. But it's so beautiful today. 583 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you know what, especially after Vegas, which is 584 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:23,759 Speaker 1: so dry and kind of desolate and gross, to see 585 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,360 Speaker 1: this you like to stand at the edge of the 586 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 1: beach and be like life. And we met him. Yeah, 587 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 1: it's over, it's over. I can't believe it. We saw 588 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 1: we look, we saw him, saw him. I mean, he 589 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 1: was right there. We saw him for about two hours 590 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 1: to well, in that context, for about two hours, but 591 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 1: we saw him pretty close up. But then we also 592 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 1: he luckily for us, he granted us an interview. Is 593 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,440 Speaker 1: that funny that he barely I can't even like barely 594 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 1: gave it with nothing what I expected. I honestly, there 595 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 1: are so many answers that were given to us, two 596 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:16,799 Speaker 1: questions we didn't even know we had. But I can't 597 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 1: help but feel that some things are left unanswered or 598 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 1: definitely left unanswered. And this investigation is over, so we 599 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,879 Speaker 1: we never we never got an answer as to why 600 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 1: why he decided it was okay to charge a hundred 601 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:37,800 Speaker 1: fifty dollars for a submission pee plus another fifty on 602 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 1: top of that. So it's two dollars minimum to be 603 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:47,840 Speaker 1: in this festival. Yeah, it seems like the conclusion that 604 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:53,399 Speaker 1: we kind of came to is that, Okay, we didn't 605 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:58,840 Speaker 1: get all the answers we wanted, but when we looked 606 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 1: Fear and the face, it was just a guy with dreams. 607 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,400 Speaker 1: That's a really beautiful way of putting it. Actually, like 608 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,000 Speaker 1: this whole season, this whole investigation, we were like, what 609 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 1: is fear? Why can't I look away? Why is it 610 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 1: so tantalizing? And then if I guess this is what 611 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,480 Speaker 1: you're saying that if you really look fear up closed, 612 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,360 Speaker 1: if you're standing right next to it, it's not some 613 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:36,240 Speaker 1: mysterious and noble thing. Yeah, it's just a guy with dreams. 614 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 1: He doesn't have face paint on, he doesn't have white 615 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 1: contact lenses. He literally is just wearing a normal button 616 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:52,040 Speaker 1: up shirt and he has glasses and he's just completely 617 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,720 Speaker 1: I can't fear. The guy has glasses. And what's funny 618 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 1: is he has bad eyes. He's got a stigmatism. Probably 619 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm saying that because I have a stigma. 620 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 1: And he loves to sing. He loves to sing, he 621 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 1: has a song to sing. You know, it's crazy, is 622 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,279 Speaker 1: I think that the It's kind of like I'm just 623 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 1: thinking out loud, but like the why can't I look away? Part? 624 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,919 Speaker 1: Do you think that's because like I'm looking at someone 625 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 1: with dreams, that's what I can't look away from. Also 626 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 1: for me, not you, I look at this guy. Why 627 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,040 Speaker 1: the reason why I can't look away is because it's 628 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 1: like I'm looking in the mirror because of the glasses. Okay, 629 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 1: I do think you have to give yourself a little 630 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 1: more credit. I don't think it's like looking in the mirror. 631 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 1: I do think that you both have glasses, and I 632 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,480 Speaker 1: don't want to take that away from you. But I 633 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,280 Speaker 1: look at the guy and I see myself in it 634 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 1: because I also have dreams. Well, you have a stigmatism, 635 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 1: so you do see yourself. Okay, so you're right, but 636 00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 1: I don't know that he has a stigmatism. Is but 637 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,120 Speaker 1: prob he doesn't drive on the freeway too. He probably 638 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 1: can't drive it. No, I think he does drive at night. 639 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,120 Speaker 1: He had, he would have to drive in the freeway. 640 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 1: He's always driving a Vegas Okay. True, so maybe, but 641 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 1: maybe he does have a stigmatism. But he overcame his fear, 642 00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 1: and in that way, he's kind of he's both of us. 643 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 1: He's both of us, and I guess he's all of us. Well, 644 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,919 Speaker 1: congratulations on a great season. Congratulations over here shaking my hand. 645 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna shake your hand and look at the ocean. 646 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 1: We're open. I really wish you could have seen the 647 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:38,160 Speaker 1: musical because it was really kind of was. There's something 648 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:48,200 Speaker 1: for everyone. There's something to see you next season. We'll 649 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 1: be back before you know it. In the meantime, feel 650 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 1: free to keep in touch, send us your mysteries. 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