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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did. My name is Millie to Jericho.

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Speaker 2: And I left my wallet in El Segundo.

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Speaker 1: Hmm, did you now?

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Speaker 2: I'm also Danielle Henderson. I'm listening to my boom Bat

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Speaker 2: playlist a lot this week.

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Speaker 1: Is this some playlist that has like buster rhymes? So

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Speaker 1: what's going on with this playlist? You said you're listening

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Speaker 1: to a bust of rhymes or something?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just like had this.

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Speaker 3: You don't have Spotify will do the day list for

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Speaker 3: you sometimes, or I guess they do it every day,

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Speaker 3: but I only check in on it sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Yah.

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Speaker 3: And I checked in one day and it was just like,

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Speaker 3: here's your nineties rap playlist and I was in.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god. Low end theory, like

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Speaker 2: just shit, I have just forgotten about Yeah, oh god, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm on it.

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Speaker 1: That is why you did leave your wallet at Elsegundo

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Speaker 1: and then you left the state of California and moved

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Speaker 1: to New York and your wallet is still there.

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Speaker 3: My wallet is still in El Segundo and it will

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Speaker 3: be metaphorically forever.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever go to Elsegundo when he lived in California?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Could you have to go through it to get

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Speaker 2: to the airport.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't spend much time there, Actually I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I did spend a lot of time in a lot

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Speaker 1: of the places that are named checked in songs about la.

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Speaker 3: I tried not to, but that was one that like,

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Speaker 3: whenever I saw the sign, I was like, oh, I'm

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Speaker 3: in elsegundo ho cool?

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Speaker 1: But I just got back from there, did you? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I went, I went.

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Speaker 1: I went on a work vacation.

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Speaker 2: Tell me how you're doing? What is up?

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Speaker 1: Just fine? I have to say we I think we

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Speaker 1: talked about this in a on a previous episode, but

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Speaker 1: it's been a horny spring. Do you feel that?

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Speaker 2: Yes, what is happening?

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Speaker 1: So I'm not even I defined it the last time

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Speaker 1: we talked about this, but the spring has been so

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Speaker 1: horny and I can't even I can't even figure out why.

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Speaker 1: And when I say horny, okay, let me just coveyat

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Speaker 1: this by saying, yes, it's a horningness for individuals, but

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Speaker 1: it's also a horniness for life, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Where you have this like Pallen infused burst of energy

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Speaker 1: where you're just like really like hitting it hard. You

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Speaker 1: want to like go out every night, you want to

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Speaker 1: like get drunk every night, you want to like make

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Speaker 1: out with people every night. It's that feeling, a horny feeling,

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Speaker 1: and weal and I talked about this because I kind

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Speaker 1: of felt it like right as the seasons turned, like

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Speaker 1: in I must have been March or maybe like early

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Speaker 1: March or something when we talked about this, which I'm

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Speaker 1: calling horny spring, I guess, but it hasn't stopped. It

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Speaker 1: has not stopped. I'm like waiting for summer, for dirt

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Speaker 1: right now with all of the possibilities of like things.

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Speaker 1: So when I was in La, I was basically like

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Speaker 1: running around like a twelve year old, literally like a

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Speaker 1: I gotta get like a breakfast brito here, and then

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Speaker 1: I gotta go to git Lauda and get this like

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Speaker 1: super spicy soup that I loved, and then I've got

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Speaker 1: to go to this part ten. I was like like

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Speaker 1: going to all my old spots and then flirting with

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Speaker 1: everyone really free one dude, I actually I didn't tell

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Speaker 1: you this because I was like this, this is weird.

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Speaker 1: I actually googled whether or not extreme horniness was a

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Speaker 1: symptom of perimental pause. But I was like, is that

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Speaker 1: a bit ah oh good?

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Speaker 2: Like what are these hormones?

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Speaker 3: Can they be explained by the next piece of my life?

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Speaker 1: I know, I thought it was a medical condition. I

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Speaker 1: flirting with everyone, Like I went was the car dealership

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Speaker 1: was like there was no discretion. I was flirting with

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what is wrong with me?

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Speaker 2: The way? There is something so hilarious to.

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Speaker 3: Me about the way that you google things as if

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Speaker 3: they are a medical problem. Remember when you when we

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Speaker 3: did that movie The Machinist, and you were like, I

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Speaker 3: think I also have this illness where I can't fall

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Speaker 1: Forever I die by insomnia. What was it called? It

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Speaker 1: was like some kind of like extreme insomnia or something.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I know, and that's any extreme emotion. You're like,

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Speaker 3: this is definitely going to kill me. This is a diagnosis.

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Speaker 1: Well, because I live by myself and I'm always in

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Speaker 1: my own head, and I'm just like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I'm so horny for life right now? Is this medical?

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Speaker 2: Is this?

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Speaker 1: I just had a birthday. Maybe something flipped good. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. But what I think is actually about now,

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Speaker 1: we're having a lot of fun here. But what I

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Speaker 1: think is actually about is that I always find that

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Speaker 1: in my life whenever I'm under extreme levels of obligation.

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Speaker 1: Right I'm in grad school, I'm working like forty five jobs.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, doing everything. I have very little

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Speaker 1: free time. My instinct is to rebel on all of it.

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Speaker 1: Is to be like, no, I don't want to show

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Speaker 1: up to class. I don't want to write papers. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to grade papers. I don't want to do

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I don't want to work my contract jobs

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Speaker 1: and do all my commentaries and all my bullshit. I

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Speaker 1: just want to go out until four o'clock in the

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Speaker 1: a maniac, Like I don't want my responsibility.

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Speaker 2: That makes total sense to me. Yeah, a result.

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Speaker 3: I mean, when you're super over When I'm super overwhelmed,

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Speaker 3: I'm likely to do one of two things, one of

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Speaker 3: which is that where I'm like, I'm just gonna go

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Speaker 3: hard and do whatever I want because I deserve this time.

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Speaker 3: I deserve it. The other thing I do is just

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Speaker 3: sit catatonic in a chair and stare into space. So

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Speaker 3: either way, you're wasting time, so you may as well

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Speaker 3: be spending that time doing hilarious and fun things.

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Speaker 1: I know, and I just it's just been so I

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Speaker 1: can't even. It really feels like the energy is about

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Speaker 1: to pop out of my chest. Like I'm just like, ah,

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Speaker 1: like I'm like Beavis. I'm Beavis, Like I'm court Holy owing,

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Speaker 1: like I'm like doing this thing. And my friends are like, girl,

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Speaker 1: like you're the only one that wants to go out

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Speaker 1: wants DMS in your in your Instagram, Like you're like

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Speaker 1: everybody else goes to bed early. You're the one that's

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Speaker 1: like that's a fucking party, and no one. So no

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Speaker 1: my own horny world, and.

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Speaker 2: So that's this.

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Speaker 3: This is where it becomes crucial to befriend people who

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Speaker 3: are at least two decades younger than you. That is,

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Speaker 3: that is what they are there for. I know, you're

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Speaker 3: twenty something year old. Friends will always go out with you.

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Speaker 1: I know, and listen, I do have friends in their

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Speaker 1: up for it. So yeah, maybe that's the solution.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I was always like, I have a lot of friends

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Speaker 1: feel like this is a special instance where I'm just like,

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Speaker 1: I really am like bugging out and amplified. It's amplified,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know, I think, like I said, I

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Speaker 1: extreme amount of obligation that I have right now, plus

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Speaker 1: having a birthday. Plus Okay, so here's the thing. So

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Speaker 1: I have a horniness for life. It is horny spring. However,

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Speaker 1: I am also in what I call a crush desert.

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Speaker 2: Oh I think I know what that means.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like zero crushes right now? Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Same.

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Speaker 1: I don't even have celebrity crushes right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, none, no crushes.

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Speaker 3: I went out for a long walk with a friend

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Speaker 3: of mine yesterday and talking about this exact thing, and

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Speaker 3: it's kind of it's a boring way to live.

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Speaker 2: I love a crush, Yes, I love.

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Speaker 1: A crush till I don't if you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But the very beginning is so fun.

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Speaker 3: I love an unattainable crush, yeah, foresure, which most of

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Speaker 3: them are, Yeah for me, but I got nothing I know,

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Speaker 3: And that I think amplifies the horny spring when you're

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Speaker 3: like I just want something.

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Speaker 1: To happen well, And I think that's why the energy

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean? Right?

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Speaker 1: Like, I don't even have a crush on like someone

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Speaker 1: like any current musician or actor. Like I'm just like,

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Speaker 1: horniness with no It's like atoms that are just bopping

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Speaker 1: I gonna do? Like remember a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about Barry Kyogan, right, Yeah, when we

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Speaker 1: were talking about Killico Sacred Dear. Okay, So the whole

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Speaker 1: reason why he was popping up on my algorithm, on

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Speaker 1: my Facebook algorithm is because for some reason, my algorithm

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Speaker 1: in Hollywood. How that happened, I have literally no idea.

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Speaker 1: I think maybe it has something to do with the

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Speaker 1: fact that I googled You're Gonna kill Me? But I

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Speaker 1: looked up did you see the episode of Saturday Night

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Speaker 1: Live with Timothy Challomey?

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Speaker 2: You know I didn't.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, he has this SoundCloud rapper character that is

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Speaker 1: now like a recurring character, and there was this skit

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Speaker 1: it was like this like fifty years of Rap panel

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Speaker 1: and he was on there and it's really funny. I'm sure,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure everybody knows what I'm talking about because it's

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Speaker 1: all over the internet. It's like a meme.

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Speaker 2: I you have sent this to me and he's like.

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Speaker 1: Yep, why are you cappin? Yeah, so I was looking

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Speaker 1: that up, and now I think because of that, I'm

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Speaker 1: getting like Austin Butler, Jacob LOORDI is that his name,

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Speaker 1: Jacob Alorie, Timothy Barry, some other guy, Tom Holland I

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Speaker 1: don't even know who the fuck that is. Like all

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Speaker 1: these dudes are now in my feed, and I'm just

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Speaker 1: sort of like, is Facebook trying to make me have

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Speaker 1: crushes on any of these guys? Because it's not working.

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Speaker 1: It's not It's not the one. I'm not the one.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I will say this about Austin Butler. He's

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Speaker 1: probably I fave out of that crew that I just mentioned,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's because when I saw him and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know those market forces. I'm telling you.

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Speaker 3: I didn't seen your movie ever. Oh yeah, so we

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 1: And I feel really weird about the idea that Brad

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Speaker 3: I think he's edging out Modine as our most mentioned,

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Speaker 1: No, he gets enough mentions. I wanted to be Modine.

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Speaker 3: I think I think sad Astras edged him out. How

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: You also need to ding dongs talking about you on

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Speaker 3: I know, we got to stop picking the movies that

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Speaker 3: My movie was released in two thousand and seven. The

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Speaker 3: It's based on the story Three ten to Yuma by

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Speaker 1: Damn?

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Speaker 2: You get a family to protect?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: It talks to me like you know me way way

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Speaker 3: They didn't release three Tender Youma?

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Speaker 1: Is that a crash test Dubby song that I didn't

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Speaker 3: B side three tender you MAA go that look.

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Speaker 1: That's as long as I can go.

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Speaker 2: That's metal. Three tender you Ma, three gender you Ma.

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Speaker 2: You're about to lose your fucking rach.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's like, turn this shit off, turn off.

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Speaker 2: Listen. Sometimes your skills are they find you, you don't

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, let me give you this one sentence synops

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Speaker 3: Attend to Yuma. The remake is a down on his

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Speaker 3: luck rancher gets embroiled in a prison transfer while his

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Speaker 2: For real.

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Speaker 3: So, as Millias said, cast incredible, Russell Crowe, Christian Bale,

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Speaker 3: If Ben Foster shows up in your movie, things are

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Speaker 3: Peter Fonda, Alan Tunneck, Gretchen Ma, I mean, come on,

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00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 3: come on.

440
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: Can I say something really embarrassing. So I totally agree

441
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: about Dallas Roberts. However, when I started watching the movie

442
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: and I got about an hour into it, I realized,

443
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: oh wait, that's not Mike Verbiglia, that's Dallas Roberts Verbiglia.

444
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 3: B and three and said to Yuma, and never mention

445
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 3: it once in any of his shows.

446
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 4: Just sit a whole ass movie with an incredible Hollywood

447
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 4: cast and kept it silent.

448
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm an idiot.

449
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 3: Okay, No, I never drew the correlation that they even

450
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 3: look similar until now, but you're absolutely correct.

451
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: I don't even know if they do, but I just

452
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: in my brain, I was like, oh, yeah, there's Mike

453
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: Probiglia as a he's wearing like an old timey western hat.

454
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 3: See, this is why you gotta get at a horny spring,

455
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 3: because it's melting your brain.

456
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: I can't. I cannot distinguish between white guys. It's just annoying.

457
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 3: Well, this this movie starts off right off the bat

458
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 3: with a kid who's wheezing.

459
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: And you know, I love a movie where a kid

460
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 2: is shrugs the funk. We do.

461
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 1: Celebrates the strugs to funk child.

462
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,959
Speaker 3: And while this kid is shrugs the funk his dad,

463
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 3: Christian Bale.

464
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 2: The character's name is Dan Evans.

465
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 3: Dan is staring out a window holding a gun because

466
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 3: he's like, this kid's gonna keep wheezing.

467
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 2: I gotta look out this window. I think I heard something.

468
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 3: And thankfully he did, because some dudes come and burn

469
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 3: his barn to the ground.

470
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 2: So he's right to be on alert.

471
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 3: And he and his older son, who is William Evans

472
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 3: played by Logan Lerman, go running out, try to save

473
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 3: the horses, try to save the feed.

474
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 2: Things are tense right off the bat.

475
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: And what you really realize over the course of a

476
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 3: couple of minutes is that Dan Evans owes money to

477
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 3: somebody named Hollander, and they have come to exact revenge

478
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 3: for his non payment, essentially, and he hasn't told his

479
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 3: wife that he hasn't been paying.

480
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 2: He's like, well, I've been paying some and she's like, oh,

481
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: enough to not have our barn burnt down. Awesome.

482
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 3: So he looks at his son and he's like, well,

483
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 3: let's go get these cows and horses, and I guess

484
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 3: I'll have a talk with Hollander. And right from the

485
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 3: gate you can tell that his son thinks he ain't shit,

486
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 3: Like William looks at him like, why didn't you stand

487
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 3: up to Hollander before this?

488
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 2: Why didn't you just shoot those guys that.

489
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 3: Were just running away from our barn that they lit

490
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: on fire? Like he just has a real stank attitude

491
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 3: and thinks his dad's a piece of shit.

492
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Ben Foster and Russell Crowe.

493
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 3: Ben Foster is playing a character named Charlie Prince and

494
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 3: Russell Crowe is playing Ben Wade. And Ben Wade might

495
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 3: be doodling birds in his free time, but he's also

496
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 3: going to fuck someone up because they basically attack what

497
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 3: is the early version of an armored car. Okay, so

498
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: Peter Fonda shows up. He's hauling ass with his crew.

499
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 3: They're trying to get through this valley. Ben Wade and

500
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 3: Charlie Prince are like, Nope, you ain't getting through this shit.

501
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: They just start shooting at people and.

502
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 3: Trying to shoot this coach. But the coach again is

503
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 3: like reinforced. And it always makes me wonder like why

504
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: do they always shoot the men riding the horses and

505
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 3: not the horses? Which I know you have not watched

506
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: Game of Thrones, but one of the best tactical moves

507
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: on a screen. Is when the dof Rocky go for

508
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 3: the horse instead of the man riding it, and they

509
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 3: actually fuck shit up because it throws the guy off

510
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: the horse. You don't have to deal with two big

511
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 3: things coming at you anyway.

512
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they think they can sell the horse.

513
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: Shoot the guys, take the horse into the trading post

514
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: and make some money off of the murder. I don't know. Also,

515
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: anybody's the West out there that can answer that question

516
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: for us.

517
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: I think it was actually like a very genteel like

518
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: that horse didn't do nothing to me.

519
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: I don't have roach, I don't have beef with this horse.

520
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

521
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: The man atop, however, needs to fucking die well.

522
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: And die they do because Fonda, who's playing a card

523
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 3: Peter Vonda is playing Byron McElroy and he shoots in

524
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: a bag of ammunition and just blows up a guy

525
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 3: and his horse as he's try to get through this valley,

526
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: and they can't put the brakes on the horses fast enough,

527
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 3: so the whole coach flips over and that's when Charlie

528
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 3: Prince shoots Peter Fonda, he shoots Byron, and Wade is

529
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 3: like okay, don't kill him. So Wade is like a

530
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 3: robber and you eventually realize that he is like one

531
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: of the most famous gunslingers this side of the Mississip,

532
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: but he also has a heart of gold, like, don't

533
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: kill this guy.

534
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 2: And Peter found is like, can you please kill me? Please?

535
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: And they're like, now we're just gonna rob the stage coach.

536
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: And of course, right over the horizon is Dan Evans

537
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: with William because they're trying to get their fucking cows back,

538
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 3: and Charlie Prince spots them, and William is like in

539
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 3: a boner zone about how fast Wade can shoot, like

540
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 3: he is fucking enamored. Yeah, and Wade's pistol is called

541
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 3: the hand of God, and William's like, I wish you

542
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 3: were my dad. Like this his whole role in this

543
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: movie is basically I wish Ben Wade was my dad.

544
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: So Wade's gang spots them.

545
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 3: On the ridge, which also, how can you not They're

546
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: just out in the open, and Dan Evans is like, uh,

547
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: can I have my cows back?

548
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: Ben Wade's like hmm, yeah, I guess.

549
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 3: So there'll be a few miles down the road We're

550
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 3: gonna tie you up and like make it impossible.

551
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: We are.

552
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: We're gonna take all your your guns and shits so

553
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: you can't follow us and shoot us.

554
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: But then you can go get your cows. There'll be

555
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: a few miles down the road.

556
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: And what Dan Evans realizes is that Byron is not dead.

557
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: So when he goes down into the valley, he's like,

558
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: oh shit, like this guy's alive. I guess we have

559
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 3: to try and save him while my kids are here.

560
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: Let's try it. So they cruise into town where the

561
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 3: bank is, and first Ben Wade's group gets there and

562
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 3: they just start drinking and they give a toast because

563
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 3: Wade had to shoot one of his own men, who,

564
00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 3: by the way, was he was in.

565
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: Empire Records?

566
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: Was he the like brown haired guy, the like the

567
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: guy that falls for liv Tyler? So yeah, okay, yeah,

568
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: So he shoots.

569
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: Him in the neck.

570
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 3: His character's name was Tommy, and everyone's like, here's the toast.

571
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 3: Tommy was weak, Tommy was stupid, Tommy is dead.

572
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: Let's drink.

573
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 3: They stomp into the bar like Beyonce's Renaissance Tour, and

574
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 3: Wade sees his bar maid who used to be a singer.

575
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: Like they clearly used to have a thing, and he's like, hey,

576
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 3: let me. He just stops and draws things all the time.

577
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,479
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm actually a really good artist. Let me

578
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 3: just like draw your naked form. And she's like, are

579
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 3: you gonna take me with you?

580
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: Or what? Like? Get me the fuck out of here?

581
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: And he's like, nah, maybe I don't think so.

582
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 3: Just breaking hearts everywhere he goes that Ben Wade breaking

583
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: hearts or putting bullets through them.

584
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: That's true charisma. Baby.

585
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, William is like, god, dad, why are we dragged

586
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 3: this fucking dude around? But they also make it into

587
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: town and they find the doctor who's played by Alan

588
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: Tuttock and Alan Tuttock most of you will know from

589
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 3: Firefly and Nerdy Things, and he's.

590
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, which bullet remover should I use? Hmm?

591
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 3: I wonder and Fonda is like, Yo, why am I

592
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: looking at a fucking fetal pig in a jar right now?

593
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: And it's because Alan Tutnick is a veterinarian, he's not

594
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: actually a doctor.

595
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: H And I love it.

596
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 3: I love that moment in westerns are like in any

597
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 3: movie really where they take the bullet out of someone's

598
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 3: body and then they just drop it in the tin pan.

599
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, that's an They also do it in assassin movies, Yes,

600
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: when assassins have to remove their own bullets.

601
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: Fucking love it. I fucking love it.

602
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: And whatever this doctor does does the trick because Peter

603
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: Fonda like pops up. He's like, yo, thanks, and I'm like,

604
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: you just got shot with old timmy bullets that were

605
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: made from like pure lead.

606
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: What are you doing. He's like, what's up, I'm fine,

607
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 2: give me it. So Evans is out in the street

608
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: with his kids and he sees.

609
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 3: Hollander and he's like, please, please don't take my fucking ranch,

610
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 3: like it's all I got. I'll give you this brooch,

611
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: also like stop cutting off my water and redirecting the river.

612
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: And Hollander is like, no, I'd rather have a railroad by.

613
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 3: He's like, I'd rather ruin your family because this whole

614
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 3: country is built on the whims of selfish little boys

615
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 3: who want their toys.

616
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: That is America.

617
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 3: So Dan and so now Dan, Evans and Wade are

618
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: in the same bar and Wade basically pays him for

619
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: the cattle that he killed because he caught up with this.

620
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: Evans caught up with his cattle, some of them were dead.

621
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: Wade gives him money for it, but then Wade gets captured.

622
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: So the Vet again brings Fonda in to this bar

623
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 3: where all this is happening, and he just seems perfectly fine,

624
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 3: and everyone's like, let's.

625
00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: Bring Wade to justice.

626
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 3: Three men and Dan volunteers to bring Wade to justice,

627
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 3: which is bringing him to a prison in Yuma, and

628
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 3: he's going to get two hundred.

629
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: Dollars for it. So Charlie Prince is not having it.

630
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 3: This is Ben Foster's character, and he's on his horse

631
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 3: and he's just like, this town's.

632
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 2: Gonna fucking burn boo.

633
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 3: And he so he makes Wade's gang is following as

634
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 3: these three men, who is again, we've got Dan Evans,

635
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 3: we've got Peter Fonda, we've got the Dallas Roberts character,

636
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: the guy who owns the bank, who's like, yeah, he

637
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: fucking robbed me. Of course I'm going to take his

638
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 3: ass to jail. So all these dudes have gathered to

639
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 3: take him to jail, and they're like, how the fuck

640
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 3: are we going to get out of town without getting

641
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 3: everybody killed. So the first step is to take him

642
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 3: to Dan's ranch. Which is a solid idea. Let's just

643
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 3: put his whole family at risk real quick. So they

644
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 3: do a switcheroo and they fake out Prince in the

645
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 3: gang and they make it look like he is in

646
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 3: the stage coach, but he's actually gotten and now Wade

647
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: is walking him into Dance like Wade is walking into

648
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 3: Dan's house. Essentially, they're going to hunker down for a

649
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 3: minute while Charlie Prince's gang follows the stage coach and

650
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 3: William is losing his mind and Mark is like the

651
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 3: wheezing kid. He's like, Yo, we're gonna say grace because

652
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 3: I thought I needed all the prayers I could fucking get,

653
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: even if there's a straight up murderer at the table. Yeah,

654
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 3: And but William is like, oh god, I love this guy.

655
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: He's killed more. He's killed more men than the drought.

656
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 3: Like put it in your pants, William. And he wants

657
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: to go with his dad, because of course he does.

658
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Speaker 3: And they're taking him to this train and it's going

659
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 3: to take two days on the road to get to

660
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: the three ten to Yuma. That's what the title is

661
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: all about. William eventually sneaks out and follows and then

662
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 3: joins his dad and they're all headed towards this town

663
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 3: called Contention to get this train, to get wide to justice.

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Speaker 3: So I fucking love this movie. I think that Ben

665
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 3: Wade is a character. He talks a very good game,

666
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 3: but he's very observant and quiet and slow. This is

667
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 3: one of, to me, one of the rare films that

668
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: is just as good as, if.

669
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 2: Not possibly better than, the original.

670
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Speaker 1: Oh interesting, interesting.

671
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: I do love the original, but this was an incredibly

672
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 3: good remake.

673
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had to agree. I mean, I think that

674
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: was probably the common perception too when this movie came out,

675
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: was that, like, I think people who loved the original thought, oh,

676
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: this is pretty good. It's like a pretty good, you know, retelling.

677
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: It would not go on our episode just because you

678
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: can doesn't mean you should.

679
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: No, right, we couldn't do it.

680
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 1: What I do think is really funny is to circle

681
00:36:51,840 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: back to this observation that, like, basically that William doesn't

682
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: want to hang out with his dad, wants Ben to

683
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: be his dad. And it's funny when you talk about

684
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: the classic version of it, the fifty seven version, because

685
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: Van Heflin is the Christian Bale character. And I feel

686
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: like this is the second time that We've talked about

687
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: Van Heflin because Van Hefflin was in Shane if he remembers, Yeah,

688
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: And in that movie he was also cooked by his

689
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: own son who wanted to hang out with a much

690
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: cooler guy.

691
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 3: Than Sometimes sometimes an actor will just pick a niche

692
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: just like skills.

693
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: Sometimes it finds them.

694
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: It's like, can I play any role in which my

695
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: only son hates me and wants to hang out with

696
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: another guy and wishes that that other guy was his

697
00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: actual father? What a big care actor that would be.

698
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 3: Look, it's an amazing limitation to put on your own career.

699
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 3: But I do love seeing it in movies where a

700
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 3: teenage boy is just.

701
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 2: Like, oh I hate you, dad, God, and you're.

702
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: Like, sir, you have much bigger problems like actually getting water.

703
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, every day, big, big, big important thing to do.

704
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: Also not for nothing. We talked about this at the

705
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 1: in the intro. You want to talk about a firefolder. Now.

706
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: Glenn Ford, Okay, in the original three Tender Yuma kind

707
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: of sexy and mean, like in the same way like

708
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: Glenn Ford obviously became Superman's father, but early Glenn Ford

709
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: is kind of a hot daddy, kind of a daddy

710
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: I have to say so again, found a niche hot dad, Yeah,

711
00:38:54,600 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: hot fifties classic actor dad. So, and then Superman's Dead yeah,

712
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: and Superman's Dad correct. But I actually think that Russell

713
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: Crowe is a perfect Ben Wade. Like he did that. Yeah,

714
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: he did it really well.

715
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 3: And I really love Christian baleis Dan Evans because it's

716
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: it's something where he doesn't he doesn't capitulate to changing

717
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 3: who he is to make his son like him more.

718
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 3: He's like, this is the way I am, this is

719
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: how I do things. This is what we're gonna do.

720
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 3: Very methodical, very thoughtful. But then he's also really tough.

721
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 3: He's very tough, and I think that, you know, again,

722
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 3: I like the way that he played it because it's

723
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 3: a quieter way to play it, but it really emphasizes

724
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 3: all the action in the movie because this is really

725
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 3: a NonStop fucking film.

726
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is.

727
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 3: And I thought that Russell Crowe did a great job

728
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 3: as Ben Wade. Like I said, he's just he brings

729
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: a little a little bit something different to this character

730
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 3: than the original. But if you just look if you

731
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 3: don't see the original, you just look at this movie

732
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: as a standout. It's also a perfect Sundays with Grandpa

733
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 3: film because it's very again, action packed, easy to watch.

734
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 3: You could take a nap to it, I guess and

735
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: just wake up and rewind But it's a chill old movie.

736
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 2: It's a chill movie. The old men in your life

737
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 2: will love it.

738
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: And this is now a Dallas Roberts podcast. We will

739
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: make it a fan podcast for Dallas Roberts.

740
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: We like him.

741
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 3: We can make up for lost time and have him

742
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: surpass Modine in no time at all.

743
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: I'm ready to take that challenge by the Horns. Well,

744
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: perfect movie. I'm glad I finally got to see it.

745
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: It was actually amazing.

746
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: So I'm glad I got to see your film.

747
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: Man, I got a lot to say about this movie.

748
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: I've been rare to go on this movie for months. Okay,

749
00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 1: here we go. Yeah, okay, So my movie for the

750
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: theme Sundays with Granddad is from two thousand and seven.

751
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: Like your film, it was written by Andrew Dominic, based

752
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: on the book of the same name by Ron Hanson.

753
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: It was directed by Andrew Dominic. It's called The Assassination

754
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford.

755
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you won't be like me, Are you going to

756
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: be me? I remember people making fun of the title

757
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 2: when it came out, but it's actually a pretty fucking

758
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: great title.

759
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's perfect. Listen, I'm about to talk about

760
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: this right fucking now that you brought this shit up. So,

761
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: this film did not do well when it came out,

762
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: and I remember people shitting on it. Now I don't

763
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: know why, but at the time I actually didn't know

764
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: why either. I was like, what's going on here? And

765
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: I because I remember it came out, I did not

766
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: see it when it came out, and I started thinking

767
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: about it because I was like, why didn't I see

768
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: this film when it came out. I really think it

769
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: had a lot to do. I feel like we were

770
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: in the height of like Brangelina at the time, you

771
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Because I feel like Mister and

772
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: Missus Smith came out in two thousand and five, so

773
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: they were like all over the place. I think Oceans

774
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: thirteen was out in two thousand and seven, so he

775
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: was just like, I don't know. I guess maybe I'm like, yo,

776
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: cut it. I don't want to see a Brad Pitt movie, Okay,

777
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: I don't want It wasn't until I was preparing for

778
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: I did this event. I think I talked about this

779
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: many months ago with Roger Deakins, the famous cinematographer who

780
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: was the cinematographer for this movie. I finally watched it

781
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: because I was just preparing for the conversation I had,

782
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: like this multi night event where I had to like

783
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: talk to him and his wife and about his work.

784
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: And I cannot tell you how blown the fuck away

785
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: by it. I was like, I was like, why had

786
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: it taken me so long to see this movie? I

787
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: love it so much. I think it's maybe you know,

788
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: you have these like thoughts sometimes when you watch movies

789
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: that like maybe something that isn't popular might have a

790
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: popularity in the future. You don't know, like just if

791
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: the stars aligned, and you're like, okay, like I don't know,

792
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: this movie that nobody saw, nobody cared about is actually

793
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: a masterpiece like in twenty years, and you know, sometimes

794
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: you feel like you can maybe clock it. Sometimes you're

795
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: wrong about it. But I feel like this is a

796
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: movie that people are only trying to rectify now, Like

797
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: people are taking this movie, they're rewatching it, they're saying

798
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: it's actually an incredible film and all of y'all were wrong,

799
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: Real America, y'all were wrong about this movie. So I

800
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 1: have not one, but two one sentenced synopsis, oh synopsis synopsies.

801
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: The first one a star strung young man who was

802
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: totally obsessed with the outlaw Jesse James finds a way

803
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: to join his gang, but eventually becomes the man who

804
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: murders him.

805
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: Oohoo, that's good. Why'd you write another one?

806
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: Because the second one is this is a straight guy

807
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: version of Showgirls. It is fight Me, fight me on it.

808
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: I saw you did pot Itt genail dot com.

809
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: It really is.

810
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: Look so all right, I'm just gonna say it. I

811
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: know there's a few problematic folks in this cast. I

812
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: think you might know who they are. The info on

813
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: them is very easily findable. But I just wanted to

814
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: state that because I am going to talk about their

815
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: acting in this movie, which the acting in this movie

816
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: is a crucial component of why I like this film

817
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: so much, and like I talk about with Danielle's movie,

818
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: this this movie has maybe one of my favorite collections

819
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: of modern actors that I've seen recently. So you have

820
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt as Jesse James, and by the way, this

821
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: is a true story, was based on a book. Obviously,

822
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: it's about a real character. So because of that, I'm

823
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: just gonna say I'm spoiling it. Obviously I spoiled it

824
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: really in the one sentence synopsis. But also it's historical fact.

825
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: Everybody knows that Jesse James died right.

826
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: As it was in the title.

827
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the title. So don't come at me on

828
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: that point either that I'm going to ruin this movie

829
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: for you because it's history. It's unruinable. So you have

830
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt as Jesse James, Casey Affleck is Robert Ford,

831
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: and then you have the James Gang, right, so these

832
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: are all like the co conspirators of Jesse James. I mean,

833
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: it's like Sam Shephard, the legendary Sam Shepherd from Days

834
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: of Heaven, by the way, which is I feel a

835
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 1: visual reference for this film. He plays Jesse James's brother Frank.

836
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: But you've got Jeremy Renner. I mean, hello, I fucking

837
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: love Jeremy Renner.

838
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: Sam Rockwell.

839
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: Sam Rockwell, who I saw at Soul Cycle once in

840
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: Hollywood when I was taking a spin class, and it

841
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: was the other time I was a starstruck besides seeing

842
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: Geramo Diaz at Costco. Sam Rockwell came out of the

843
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: spin class that I was about to go into, and

844
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: he went to the water fountain and like filled up

845
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: his water bottle, and he was very nice. He smiled

846
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: at me, which I appreciated. But also he has a

847
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: Looney Tunes tattoo on his arm, and I lost my

848
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: goddamn mind. I'm like, this is the coolest, cutest dude

849
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. So there.

850
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 4: I know.

851
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 3: I've had friends see him all over LA. I never did,

852
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 3: but I love a Sam Rockwell sighting. Everyone reacts exactly

853
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 3: the same way. I know.

854
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: He's he's such a He's the man. We love him. So,

855
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: I mean, so you got like Jeremy Ruder, Sam Rockwell,

856
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: Garrett Dilla Hunt, who I love from No Country for

857
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: Old Men, He's in this film, Paul Schneider, Ted Levine,

858
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: for God's sake, Michael Parks, the Legend, Michael Parks, pat Heally,

859
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: I mean, Nick cave Is in this movie, makes a

860
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,479
Speaker 1: cameo in this movie. But then you have like Mary

861
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: Louise Parker, Zoey Deshnel, James fucking carvill Is in this movie.

862
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: So it's like a murderer's row of people that I love.

863
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: So having said that, I'm gonna admit that I don't

864
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: know a lot about Jesse James. Do you know a

865
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: lot about Jesse James?

866
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 2: Not at all.

867
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of figured. I mean, he's he

868
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: was basically like a pro Confederacy, anti abolition, gorilla bank robber,

869
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 1: so you know, not like super high on the stand list,

870
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: but he was very famous in his time, obviously for

871
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: being like I guess, he was kind of this like

872
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: Robin Hood outlaw that people loved, and you know, eventually

873
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: his name becomes shorthand for this entire conceit of the

874
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: Old West, right, but like he like, it's hard to

875
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: overstate how famous he was for doing these things, for

876
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: being a cold blooded murderer. And the interesting thing about

877
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: this movie, and I haven't read the book. I'm only

878
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: going to talk about the movie, But the interesting thing

879
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: about this movie is that it takes place kind of

880
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: after Jesse James is already pretty famous, right, Like, he

881
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: had robbed many banks and trains by this point, and

882
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: you know, most of his kind of early like the

883
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: early James Gang people were probably already dead or caught, right,

884
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: and he was kind of in this moment where he

885
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: was living under assumed names, he's kind of moving his

886
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 1: family from town to town so he wouldn't be caught,

887
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: and you know, and nobody was catching him, which was

888
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: what made the public even crazier. They loved him so

889
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: much because he's like he's getting away with it. We

890
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: love it. And there's really kind of no better example

891
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: of this pure love than a man named Robert Ford and,

892
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: like I said, played by Casey Affleck. The beginning of

893
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: this film is Robert, or Bob as he's called a

894
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: lot in the movie. So Bob kind of just shows

895
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: up when the gang are kind of like hanging out

896
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,959
Speaker 1: in the woods, right and they're kind of waiting for

897
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: the nightfall, which we'll get to in just a second,

898
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: but basically Bob comes up and he's kind of hanging

899
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: out with Jesse's brother Frank, again the Sam Shephard character,

900
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: and he's like, can I hang out with you guys?

901
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: And Frank's like, fuck no, like why would that happen?

902
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: And Bob's brother Charlie, who is the Sam Rockall character,

903
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: is actually already a part of the gang, and like

904
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: from what I understand this iteration of the James Gang

905
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: is it's pretty pretty scrappy, Like this is like not

906
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: the greatest dudes. There are a bunch of like fucking

907
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: dim witted goons, like all of them. Right. So Bob

908
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: is like, well, my brother's in the gang, and I

909
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: know that I'm just nineteen years old, but I but

910
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: I really want to join. I think I could be

911
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 1: like a good help for y'all. And Frank's like, fuck this,

912
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm totally you are totally sus and no. However, Bob

913
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 1: kind of starts moving around the woods, you know, kind

914
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: of like moving the shoulders and catch an eye with Jesse,

915
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,240
Speaker 1: and and he starts talking to Jesse. And here's the thing.

916
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: Jesse kind of finds some slightly amusing. He's like, I

917
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: don't know, this kid likes me a lot, you know,

918
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: and I laugh. Yeah, And so here's the thing that happens.

919
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: So there is this very it's a very iconic sequence

920
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: and it happens very early in the film. So that's

921
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: why you should watch it because it is really like

922
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: talked about a lot, I think, especially if you're like

923
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: really in a cinematography and life, especially like it is

924
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: an iconic sequence where you know, it's basically a night

925
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: train robbery where the James gang is hanging out in

926
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: the woods and they're waiting for this train to come

927
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: along so they can rob it, and you know, basically

928
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: take all the minute and Roger Deakins cinematography is like

929
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: in full display in this sequence. I obviously heard him

930
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: talk about it because we were talking together at the event,

931
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: but like he's talked about it a lot, and there's

932
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: clips of him on YouTube, I think, talking about it.

933
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: So if you really want to know how a shot

934
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: and what camera they used in the lighting techniques and

935
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: stuff it's for, it's out there for you. But it's

936
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: one of the most beautiful scenes I've ever seen in

937
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: a film, Like it is truly spectacular. But you know,

938
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: so this train robbery is the is the first gig

939
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: for Bob and he's just intoxicated with with the with

940
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: Jesse and you know, getting to hang out with him,

941
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: and this is I think where this is where I

942
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 1: think you begin to see what I think is the

943
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: very crystal Canors no me Malone relationship between Jesse James

944
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: and Robert Ford.

945
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: So this is not straight guy camp. This is just

946
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 3: an actual straight guy iteration of Showgirls.

947
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 2: I love it.

948
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: There are many similarities, right, this is like again, I

949
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: think part of why I do think it feels Showgirls

950
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 1: is because at times it feels a little home more erotic.

951
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: I have to say. You know, sometimes it's kind of

952
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: like a father son. Sometimes it's a mentor mentee. But

953
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 1: there is this undercurrent in this film of this slight

954
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: Homer eroticism. And there is a moment I think where

955
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: this gets really amplified. I mean, basically, Bob walks in

956
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: on Jesse taking a bath in a like a big

957
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: ass metal washtub like they did in the olden days,

958
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 1: and it's like shot from behind, and he's basically just

959
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: like he just asked, Bob, He's like, so, do you

960
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: want to be like me? Or do you want to

961
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: be me? And so it's this like really interesting question

962
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: that's happening in this very kind of like yeah, kind

963
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: of like interesting scene between two effectively straight men who

964
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: you know, one is in a bathtub naked and the

965
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: other one worships him. So anyway, it's just really interesting

966
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: to me though, generally, because this dynamic is really what

967
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: the movie is about. So it's about like it's kind

968
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: of like both sided though. So you have Bob, who

969
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: is young, he just wants to hang out with his idol.

970
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 1: He wants to like make himself into something. He wants

971
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: to be a legend in his own right. But then

972
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: you have somebody like Jesse, who is this like on

973
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: the other side of fame, you know, kind of like

974
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: his best days or maybe a little bit behind him,

975
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: you know, his brother like has tapped out, Like Sam

976
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: Shepherd is like, all right, I'm done with this. Like

977
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: we try to rob that train. There wasn't enough. There

978
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: wasn't even enough money to make it worth it for me.

979
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,959
Speaker 1: So I'm out. I'm out of the business. I'm gonna

980
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: sell shoes. And Jesse's like, shit, I mean, maybe I

981
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: should just give up on this shit, Like I'm getting

982
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: old for this malarkey. But at the same time, here's

983
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: this young kid that's coming up, you know, gassing him up,

984
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 1: making him feel like he's you know, the bee's knees

985
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 1: and I don't know. So you have this like weird

986
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: dynamic between the two of them, and as you can

987
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: probably understand, like Bob is the youngest and the rest

988
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 1: of the gang just makes fun of him. For this,

989
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: Like he's basically like, hey, why don't you go onto

990
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: your ben and show him all the comic books and

991
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: the shit that you collected. He touches a he touches

992
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: the napkin, and he put in your box like that

993
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: kind off And I mean there's this really really uncomfortable

994
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: scene where it's like Jesse, Charlie, and some other folks

995
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: are at this dinner table and like basically Jesse forces

996
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: Bob to run down his crush list, like he's so,

997
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: tell me about all the ways that were similar, Like

998
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: why don't you tell this entire table how much you

999
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: like me? It's like exposure crush on me. And it's

1000
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: just so like I'm like, oh my god, how harrowing

1001
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: is that?

1002
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 2: Like so uncomfortable?

1003
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 3: That also makes Jesse Jeans kind of puts them in

1004
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 3: the light of a bit of a monster that he

1005
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 3: would toy with someone like that.

1006
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: Well, and like it's very interesting too because there's obviously

1007
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: there's a feeling of that, plus the feeling of these

1008
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,919
Speaker 1: guys are out to get me too, like don't don't

1009
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: get it twisted. Like he knows that he's an outlaw.

1010
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: He knows that if any person turned him in or

1011
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: killed him, they would be famous. So he's also kind

1012
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: of trying to stay in his own power over them.

1013
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: And you know, that's the thing is that he likes

1014
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: to he likes to play with that a little bit.

1015
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: He likes to humiliate people. But and here's the thing,

1016
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: there is a secret among some of the members that

1017
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: they want to turn on Jesse and turn him in,

1018
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: you know, and no, it creates this entire tension in

1019
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: the movie, like nobody can be trusted. Jesse is super ruthless.

1020
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: I mean, he's like, you know, basically kills one of

1021
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: the gang members after finding out that yes, there isn't,

1022
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: in fact a plot to get him. He shakes down

1023
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: this little boy, which you know, come on, dude, what

1024
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 1: are you gonna do to this like twelve year old kid.

1025
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 2: Has the boundaries?

1026
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: Man, go on, well, and he ends up being this

1027
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 1: relative to Charlie and Bob. So they're like, man, you

1028
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: fucked with our little cousin. Come on, dude, like what

1029
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: the hell? And so over time, you know, Bob is

1030
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: starting to understand that Jesse is not like the guy

1031
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: that he's read about in the drugstore novels and the

1032
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: you know, the guy that he's heard about. He's an

1033
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: actual monster. He's like a bad guy. And yeah, I

1034
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: mean there's a scene where basically the gang members get

1035
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: into a scuffle because essentially Dick little great name by

1036
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: the way, played by Paul Schneider, he's something. He's like

1037
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: a real hornball, talk about horny spring. He at one

1038
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: point seduces Height, who is the Jeremy Renner character. He

1039
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: seduces hyde step mom and basically catches her on the

1040
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: on the toilet one evening. It's like, what's up?

1041
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: You go into the privy.

1042
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: I was like, would I want to be hit on

1043
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: when I'm on the toilet? Doesn't feel very very much.

1044
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 3: Like I would not want to be hit on in

1045
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 3: an outhouse.

1046
00:57:56,080 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 2: An indoor toilet. Maybe I'm just paying. I want to

1047
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: let you come in and try it. What's up, girl?

1048
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: What are you doing right now?

1049
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 3: You?

1050
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: Uh, there's a number one or two? What's happening? I

1051
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: guess it is a good metric for success like later

1052
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: in life, like like you know how we met. I

1053
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: just was watching her while she was squatting on the toilet.

1054
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: I hit her while she was on the toilet.

1055
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 3: It's made in fucking heaven. But yeah, in an outhouse

1056
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 3: you can miss me with that, oh.

1057
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: I know, in the middle of the night, with like

1058
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: a candlelight next to.

1059
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 3: The crowd of that little like moon cut out and

1060
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 3: the door is letting the sun like moonlight in.

1061
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 2: Sitting there in a single.

1062
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 3: Shaft of light and a cloud full of shit smells from.

1063
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 2: Everyone in your fucking family.

1064
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: Oh man. So Height is like, yo, my stepmom and

1065
00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: my coworker just banged out in a fucking outhouse and pissed.

1066
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: And Height is also Jesse James's cousin by the way,

1067
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: So what happens. They get into like a shootout argument

1068
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: and Bob actually shoots Height and kills him, and they're like,

1069
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: holy fuck, what do we do. Let's just bury him

1070
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: in the backyard in the snow and hope that this

1071
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: ruthless train robber slash murderer doesn't find out. So that's like,

1072
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: you know, that's kind of an anchor for the rest

1073
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: of the film, is that there's this fact that Height

1074
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: is dead and Jesse doesn't know about it, right, But

1075
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Bob starts to buckle

1076
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: from this pressure of just having to be in this gang,

1077
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: having to be reverent towards this guy that he really likes,

1078
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: but now knowing how violent and shitty he is, and

1079
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: just like that kind of general dance too, just kind

1080
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: of being too close to your object of worship, like

1081
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: being too close. You don't want to know all these

1082
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: things about the person that you love, but now you're

1083
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: faced with it, and how is that comp for me?

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Speaker 1: But it culminates in this scene. Again, this is, I

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Speaker 1: guess theoretically a spoiler alert, although it actually happened, you know,

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Speaker 1: so it's history. But the scene of Jesse's death by

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Speaker 1: Bob's hand is unbelievable to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gorgeous.

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Speaker 1: It's so so packed with like meta narrative stuff. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Jesse basically finds out that his cousin's dead and that

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Speaker 1: Bob did it, and Bob knows that he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: killed by Jesse, right, and also like it's just all

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Speaker 1: the info that's coming to a head at this point

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Speaker 1: that Jesse's like, Okay, these these guys are trying to

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Speaker 1: kill me and they think I'm gonna kill them, and

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Speaker 1: it's just so loaded with info. Like it's tense, it's emotional.

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Speaker 1: It's like there's a moment where you think, I think

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Speaker 1: that Jesse maybe understands what needs to happen for him,

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Speaker 1: like he knows his own fate, like he has to

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Speaker 1: let this play out, even though it's at his expense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's really well done. And the way that he

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Speaker 1: dies is fucking insane. Like, yeah, it's a beautiful death.

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Speaker 1: I have to.

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Speaker 3: Say, it is quite gorgeous. I wasn't expecting that. Like again,

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Speaker 3: I hadn't seen this film ever, and I think the

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Speaker 3: cinematography is probably my favorite part of it, or the

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Speaker 3: thing that brings it most to life for me. And

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Speaker 3: that scene is just bonkers because even if you there's

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Speaker 3: so much tension, like they do such a good job

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Speaker 3: of building tension in the narrative, and even if you

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Speaker 3: know what's coming, you don't know how it's coming.

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Speaker 2: You don't know what's going to happen. It's gorgeous. I

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Speaker 2: love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very startling and it's a very bleak, but

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Speaker 1: it's beautiful in that same way. It's hard to describe.

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Speaker 2: And it's also not the end of the movie, which shocks.

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Speaker 1: Me, I know, because here's the thing. Jesse James is dead.

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Speaker 1: The whole nation is like holy fucking shit, it finally happened.

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Speaker 1: He's dead. They put this motherfucker on Ice. He's like

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Speaker 1: crab legs at Red Lobster and they just start taking

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Speaker 1: photos of him.

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Speaker 3: They just prop them up and they're like, come on, yeah,

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Speaker 3: come on with it, and here you go.

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Speaker 1: Here's a little card you can buy at the drug

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Speaker 1: store to put on your refrigerator or mantlepiece of a

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Speaker 1: dead Jesse James on Ice. I mean, it's insane. That's

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Speaker 1: the way it was back then. I don't know, like

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Speaker 1: at different times people. But the craziest part to me,

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Speaker 1: and again this has kind of talked about. This is

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Speaker 1: the way that the film is laying out. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there are many, many, many, many details that the film

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Speaker 1: did not pick up on, but basically, Bob kills Jesse James,

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Speaker 1: he becomes famous. Him and Charlie brother are doing performed

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01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: reenactments of the entire thing like all over the country,

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01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: which is crazy. However, people are like not fucking with

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01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: Bob Ford. They're like, yo, we gotta troll the fuck

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Speaker 1: out of this guy, like he's a coward, Like he

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01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: killed our bestie. Like even his own brother, Bob's brother

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01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: turns on him at some point. There's this moment towards

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Speaker 1: the end where Bob's doing a performance and there's this

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01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: like dude in the crowd that's like coward, and then

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01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 1: Casey Affleck as Bob Ford is like find out. Find out.

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01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: It's like the Boston just jumps out like he's like, yo,

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01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: find out about me, and he jumps over the footlights,

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01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: like off the stage and just like kicks the guy's ass.

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Speaker 3: It's basically a Marvel movie for about five seconds.

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01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: It's like it's the afflex The afflex style comes out

1148
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: in that one moment, which I always think is really funny.

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01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. This is the rest of his life.

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Speaker 1: He was basically destroyed by his own act, you know,

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01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: because he was hated by the public for killing this

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01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: figure that everyone revered. But also he killed this hero

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01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 1: and also I think his true love, Like I think

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01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: he did those things. And it's a very very textured film.

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Speaker 1: The cinematography is absolutely what I love about it. It's

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01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: it is gorgeous. I mean, I'm gonna tell you right now,

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01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: I totally go crazy for this. Like the clothes, the outfits,

1158
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: like this hot western goth preacher guy with like the

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01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: top button button, like a white button up with the

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01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: top button button and then like a black vest. Damn.

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01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: It's like Justified and everybody said that show Justified. I

1162
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: can't get enough. I can't get enough of it. But anyway,

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01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. It's such a great film. The themes aging,

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01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 1: transitioning out of kind of like fame and legend, obsession,

1165
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: idle worship, like all this stuff. It just really plays

1166
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: into this film. And I don't know, to me, it

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01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: is very very very packed with so many different things,

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01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: but also it is so chill. There's this like bet

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01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: of music that plays throughout the film. To me, it

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01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: sounds like, I don't know if it's the Studio Canal

1171
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: theme song, but it's like this kind of beautiful a

1172
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: little bit of music that plays often kind of sounds like, yeah,

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01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,919
Speaker 1: the studio Canal theme or something. I don't know where

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01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: I've heard it before. It's probably just like stock music

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01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 1: that was used, but it kind of sets the tone.

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01:05:55,440 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: There's this narration that kind of sets the tone. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: this was my pick for this week.

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Speaker 3: It's great. It's such a great addition to Sundays with Granddad.

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01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 3: It's so interesting to me how they've built up the

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01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 3: Jesse James character as someone who's completely unsympathetic that you

1181
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 3: actually feel bad for when it comes to him being shot.

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01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 3: And I also liked I don't know if any of

1183
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 3: this was true because I didn't read the book either

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01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 3: and I don't know much about him, but they kind

1185
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 3: of presented him as this ranting, like old lunatic, like

1186
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 3: he was definitely getting stranger and is the older he got,

1187
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 3: and he wasn't that old when he died. But like

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01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 3: I liked that they presented him as someone who was

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01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 3: not perfect. He was not a perfect bank robber, he

1190
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 3: was not a perfect criminal, and he was not a

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01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 3: perfect human being.

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01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if that's actually true there,

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01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 1: but it would totally make sense, you know, in the

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01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: context of who he was and what he did in

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01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 1: his own fame. I mean, honestly, Casey Affleck in the

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01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: film in this film is incredible, Like you can really

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01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: clock the emotion of his character, like his obsession, his

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01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: disillusionment ultimately with with sort of who he loved, like

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Speaker 1: that kind of feeling of like like a lost innocence

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01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: or something.

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01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 2: A real fall from grace too.

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01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's wonderful, and I feel and like

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01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: all of these guys are firing on all cylinders. Like

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01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,439
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I love Jeremy Renner, but like Paul

1205
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: Schneider is like the perfect scumbag. Obviously, Sam rockwell, we

1206
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: stand a legend. But Mary Louise Parker in uh this

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Speaker 1: the death scene is heartbreaking, and I like, I just

1208
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 1: love this movie so so much. I feel like again

1209
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: it's just starting to get its flowers now and I've

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01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: seen it now three times. I've seen this movie three

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01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: times since, so.

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Speaker 2: It's so good.

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad you chosen us because I finally got

1214
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 3: a chance to see it. I know.

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, I'm so happy we did this theme again.

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Speaker 1: It's always a favorite of mine and hope it's a

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Speaker 1: That is really yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to tell them what the movies are

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01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 2: for next week?

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Speaker 1: Sure as fuck do. Your movies for next week are

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Speaker 1: Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down from nineteen eighty nine

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Speaker 1: and Tioima from nineteen sixty eight.

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Speaker 3: Oh shit, all right, don't be too horny out there

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Speaker 3: on those streets.

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Speaker 1: Keep it in check.

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Speaker 2: Dirt talking to you?

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Speaker 1: Oh talking to me? I thought you were talking about

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Speaker 1: all of them. Yeah, I gotta keep it in check.

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Speaker 1: It's dirt bag June. It's just around the corner. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna make it. Sweatpants are coming.

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Speaker 3: It will soon be too hot for you to make

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Speaker 3: any horny decisions.

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Speaker 1: The brain will be working again as always, Daniel, like

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Speaker 1: fucking pleasure doing this podcast with you.

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Speaker 2: You're the best.

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Speaker 1: Bye.

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